#Damage Challenge
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if you have only a 1/5 NC leaf - you can use her here (otherwise use her for the Fire stage)
otherwise idk really. its usually either Lenora or Yarrdenia or NC blue+melony
i mean im fine with this score to be clear, im just trying to think if theres any way i can get to 2mil
so if steven would save time + add some additional points over this penny comp then
its not the end of the world if not
but since ive been too busy to build out the animation length resource ive been thinking about
AS steven is kinda bad in DC, since his heal passive bleeds from every AoE attack
only really worth it for steel stages
yeah, surf + eq prob bleed too much time on top of bmove animation time
im also just mad because red literally will not crit any of his syncs and it takes so long to get there
ugh. at least i didnt roll fully 0 sync crits this time
did one more variation, i hate the 499 but not enough to rerun it to try and hit 500 lmao
i doubt i'll stay at the master 3k i am rn by the end of the event but
good enough
Nailed it well almost. 1 missed crit, that's about 160k left on the table.
Skill gear used 34%, +80atk
Missed 1 Crit.
thats might be the highest 3v1 score there was so far (maybe NC leaf did more in 3v1, but I havent seen a screenshot)
This is fine
I got tired of NCLeaf not criting so Ill leave it there 
hes 2/5 and barry is status immune so no scorching sync which is his only mult
other than innate
this is my deeply painful rock roster lol
C. Elesa could be higher if she had her superawakening
Nc leaf did 4,7m vokz did
screenshot me please 
i mean
the whole point of what jerjok said was 'i havent seen a screenshot of higher'
so if youre not willing/able to post the proof then it doesnt really warrant a mention
ok, maybe after ranked is over then
I mean I believe VoK got it, but still need a SS if possible
Its his choice not my:)
I saw it . So he did itš¤£
the message says "i havent seen a screenshot"
But is only wat he improve
so then for now its
NC Leaf > NC Hop > AS Lance > Cl. Elesa, for 3v1
Rest are not higher then befor his or my rock
we also havenāt seen AS Lance without a parameter right?
nope
not yet
will be when shauna returns
yeah so he might go a bit higher but maybe not enough to dethrone Hop
im kinda shocked none of the rats are in that list but
Ash never had a chance. Red is not optimal for DC in a few ways.
Ash is held back by no EXR
i get why
Which will not happen soon
its just wild
yeah the rats either donāt deal single target damage as their specialty, or take way too long to set up full multipliers
will not happen
soon
I'm just hoping in that near impossible chance that he reruns, he does rerun with tech EXR
And hoping that Origin Giratina will put down SSR Cynthia
How so?
... because giratina is dragon/ghost??
and both lucas/dialga and cyrus/palkia are dragon
Because of their signature moves
in 2026 
so making origin giratina dragon while origin palkia and dialga are water and steel would be a neat inversion
third member of the triad but also cast out/separate from the others
its possible that theyll make it another ghost unit, i just think its not necessarily guaranteed is all
How do I hit one mil 
Anni Skyla's sync move was Hurricane because Bleakwind Storm didn't exist until PLA. Meanwhile Cheren's sync move is Bleakwind Storm
ok?
and tornadus is single type
and a weird choice on top of that but thats a different bugbear of mine ;P
Well, I'm kinda afraid that might happen because of Virizion
Fighting for NC Bianca and grass for Morgan
is ss hilda or mix blue better for bedeās stage
depends on who else you have to build your team
sygna hilda probably but
you might be using blue for setting sun alongside her
good god
i have a lot of fire types for no good reason
both may and gloria were mix scout pulls within like 2 weeks from each other
gloria might outscore either
even at 1/5? damn
then yeah hilda morty > mix blue probably
what im wondering about is scorching sync
is the time loss from burnās animation and lack of paralysis worth the extra damage you deal
idt you necessarily need it but you could always try both ways
DC is about trying things out after all
this is true
ok!
sst red: 3.7mil
nc bianca/hop: 3.65mil
nc leaf: 4.1mil
jacq/nc rosa: 3.43mil
archie/nc serena: 3.27mil
per the google sheet
where is classic elesa's score coming from?
not all clears are on that doc
i figured, thats just such a drastic thing to be 100% absent ykno?
like yeah obvi its heavily biased towards eng players rather than jp
most people dont record the clears, much less upload/submit there
but for her to just not have a single clear of anyone attempting in light of that screenshot
anyway
itll be interesting to see if we can replicate that next elec 3v1
im also a bit skeptical of screenshot-only clears bc of the max dmg sync glitch that was found so i generally trust clears with either videos or multiple sources/a range proving the method more than just the one
I swear, all we need to change the meta right now is support EXR SC Steven
anyway. memee
heres the full fire 3v1 from the doc
no
it was used to get a 1mil og erika clear
you have to like
frame perfect switch to airplane mode or smth
its stupid
oh thatās hilarious
and absolutely not worth it
keep in mind that the sheet requires full video proof to be accepted on it
thereās not a single mix blue OR ss hilda there
quite funny
ye, thats why i generally trust the entries to be clear
and why i was ??? at classic elesa
since she was nowhere to be seen
like again, im excited to see it shake up the sheet next cycle
but im also skeptical with only a screenshot of the end screen
I might upgrade SS Hilda so I can add her to the list of 3v1 clears 
You know, even if Hilbert is better, I'm surprised no one's using Viola for bug 3v1 even if she has Paralyze Opp Fail Up 5 
Do you think upgrading a 4/5 Gilbert to 5/5 is worth 
found it
it's true 100% legit
If its true show videoš
so yes. there is a bug/exploit that affects sync damage that can be abused for dc. this is not me endorsing or suggesting that anyone should use this (i would strongly, strongly suggest not. its stupid and kinda takes all the fun/strategy out of the game mode), but it is why i am skeptical until i can either see the run or others verify/replicate it
Interesting
ok i think scorching sync sucks
so for context memee
Why the hell would you use a status multiplier that does DoT on a 3v1 fight?
hilda was able to still get scorching sync value in 3v3 bc of burning a side mon; thats... awfully low even with the timeloss to burn
ahhh i see
i would expect scorching sync for 3v1 to still be around a mil
It's only good on 3v3
Yeap 3 vs 3
i probably just did actions wrong, maybe i tried to get too many stat raises on hilda?
but colress is also not the move here
rising tide maxes at +18 iirc
so once she's at +6 in 3 stats you dont need more
Clavel is the best for water 3v1 now right?
No, not Clavell, Mr. Rosfield
Clive Rosfield
Clive when
oh so her TM basically does that automatically
thatās like +15
then a team gimme five from ss morty completes it
+12 from both offensive stats, +3 from crit and +1 from accuracy
So she's at +16 using her TM
but yeah to the point of colress, paraspam isnt helpful here because he's charging infliction - a) you want him for aoe para in ghost 3v3 more than in any 3v1, and 2) if you're burning here, then youre enabling a singspammer all the same
youd need to test if you have enough speed for melony but
Then what's your team in fire ? huge however
that alone will probably net you an extra sync, not to mention being able to set up faster
It was NC Rosa, NC Leaf, and Chase
I'm currently trying swapping in Red for Chase
would NC rosa work as a sing spammer, or would she lose too much time due to relic song gimmickiness
it depends
and what's your score on Bede ?

because if you manage to do 3m, and 1,5m on rock ou could go higher than 8,5 actualy
You got evasion buff?
generally i would say relic song would lose more time than having her ex supp sync would be worth, but
I did
But, it was just for decoration
there are some cases where it works out
so
i do not have her so i cant experiment dhjdfgjk
I can't even do 1.2M on rock reliably lmao
what's your team ?
im gonna try it, if she gets more than 1 mil with ss hilda then im taking it
Oleana, SS Diantha, and SC Steven
then 1.6 is managable
I think my team of Aaron/SC Steven/SS Diantha can be higher if my SC Steven was 2/5
For the SEUN MPR
and you could go top 20 at least for now
wonder how the top had 10m or more
possibly
Man, I wish Adam could've gotten 11M
Breaking 3M on Leaf will put me in 20th, yes
tried having good gears but 2000 feathers spend, just 3 gears playable at the least
that's why i gave up on the SuSp
yeah i dont do the gear grind
i use the guaranteed rainbow feathers from events
and thats fine for me lmao
So we have a new meta on rock 3v1 now
and know with the superawakening passives it will be more exclusive
which is ?
Oleana/SC Steven/SS Diantha
ah but it's from d one this one
Vokz is even more impressive since he only have 367 duos, while others are way higher than 400 or even 450
with sync
iāll try without rosa sync
also, god i wish i could rerun ghost without resetting my score
Can't Blaine get higher than that?
it was such a pain to get everything right because i kept forgetting one thing or another
doom we're working on it lol
if nc rosa doesnt break 500 with only morty into hilda syncing then im going to say swap in ex melony if we have her
for sing + supp sync
Is Poppy better than Gloria for steel 3v3 or is Gloria still superior?
poppy i believe
gloria could catch up
but
this is also going to be basically 100% different with 5a lillie zone + arc steven rebuff
so
its kinda hard to say at this point
I heard once that Gloria got 3.8M
part of poppy's niche is that her bmove > sync, and you can set it up with an empty twave
so you just need infinite fmn or absolutely nuts gauge support
And I'm still coping for that sweet tech EXR and steel zone on superawakeing
gloria does better with a more classic setup
For practically x2.25 more damage
itās definitely more good
hell yeah!
i do still want the full 1 mil tho
even if that isnāt totally required in each battle
yeah
i think try melony then
as long as you have her ex
since then you can supp sync with her and not lose the relic song time
oh itās practically the same as my non-ranked score
thatās funny
oh lmao
Tell me, is Clavell better than Cerena for water 3v1 or she's still better?
we don't know
his bmove costs speed to use
so itll be hard to say without being able to lab fully
Why would you even use it?
Clavell doesn't have Haste?
Haste doesn't prevent what his B Move does
Not even Impervious for Jacq will save him from getting his stats depleted by his B Move
man⦠i rly donāt wanna cake ssr cynthia but she seems like the only viable option for ghost 3v3
unless i use morty. or something
its 240bp, still scales off attack buffs and speed, and rain boost
so for ghost
i am a cynthia lover first and a human second so i would say absolutely cake her
however
im cynthiaās #1 hater we need to duel in the street
Hey come on, that's supposed to be me 
we can tag team
You and me #1 Cynthia haters
hell yeah brother
if she is 3/5 why wouldnt you cake her ? Cakes are easy to get nowadays
she is the best AoE ghost nuker in DC and outside of it
sheās 2/5 and i donāt wanna cake her cuz i donāt like her
do not ask why i have her at 2/5
This is why I'm coping for Origin Giratina to be tech/physical striker
putting my own bias aside, your options for phys ghost syncers are sygna korinna, morty, fall morty, and fall acerola
aside from loml that is
OG Morty is the actual 2nd best
uh-huh .. well at 2/5 then ofc not,. generally cakes go on 3/5 units
whatās loml
love of my life
right right
but yeah like
of that list
the two fall units will not scale well over time for maintaining value
morty isnt the worst choice, but he has, ykno, drifblim stats
i wish i had fall acerola but she sucks so much ass 
Morty singlehandedly saved my Super Sparing score
Physical ghost sucks major ass
so if you Do have cynthia, you're shooting yourself in the foot a bit
Because the majority of ghost DDs are special
like, you would still probably want to bring her for ghost zone to boost morty
and at that point you're just getting very narrow in your ability to then supplement and hike your score
mwehhhhh fine
also as a mimikyu lover. yeah
iāll cake her begrudgingly
my non-ranked score was with her at 2/5
I caked my Cynthias because I'm a meta slave
I'm not sure if it's worth two candies
approx. 600k
Who's the 2nd best damage dealer for ghost 3v3?
And I'm sure I have units that benefit a lot more with the candies 
SC Irida or someone else?
at 3/5, even with a truly scuffed setup/comp, i could rerun and as long as i get 1 more sync get to 2mil
im not spending candies on her im just giving her a roll cake
so if shes at 2/5 + cake, you can estimate about 600k
SC Irida can (barely) get 2M+ .. but only on no rule stages, no here
which is below your preferred 1mil
I see
yāknow what that is fine
as long as i get the rewards and finish it before i go to work in an hour im good
but caking her is definitely worth it given the paucity of other options, even if you dont like her
and fwiw, to give you some schadenfreude since im a cynthia lover and you are not
never heard the word paucity before, pretty neat
I can't help but think of the opportunity cost though 
im a gen4bestgen unova hater and all the best units are unova š i spent so many gems and 2 tech candies + exr resources to get 3/5 sygna hilbert because my bug roster was absolute ass, i have very very few rebuff units, am extremely short on aoe -spdef, and knew costume barry would get outscaled soon enough
and that just bug š
Bug cannot be saved until bug arc comes out
We don't even have a bug MF yet
im gonna be real unless arc alder is on the level of nc blue i will be skipping him theres no saving that
the utility of hilbert is in spite of being bug dgjhjhdf
just give me ghost arc and then SSRC can reach 5-5,5M 
Not before Origin Giratina beats her ass
but like. sygna hilda. sygna hilbert. nc rosa, cheren, bianca, and nate. alder imminently, lenora who STILL wont show up in any of my pulls, anni skyla, and thats not even touching costumes/seasonals....
I also had Hilbert before pulling Barry. However, it should be obvious why I pulled for Barry lmao
so just know my joy of being a cynthia lover eating good (ssa cyn is genuinely one of the best designs i love that look absolutely iconic. and i kinda hate the arc designs) is balanced by dena being unova stans til the game dies dfgjhdfj
and then SSRC goes to the trash bin*
Mine is just a zone bot tbh 
Doubtful
Arc ghost will likely help renegade a ton
Without stealing her zoning
if arc ghost is strike, ssrc is dead
So she'll stay relevant
damn it
If it's a big nuker from 1/5, yes
If it's mostly a DPS
Or supoort
Renegade will stay relevant
ghost arc can only be a support, since the last limited ghost support was 2+ years ago (F.Allister)
even DeNA can see that much
wow smh call all yall arceus the way you're so mean to giratina
they'll release a ghost support seasonal before 
I hope*
Renegade is just really struggling because other ghosts don't really work insanely well with her
She's not awful
does sing spam work against barry? i assume it does but i just gotta make sure
On paper
no
wait literally rachel and sawyer erasure
they released 2 ghost support last month smh
i would if discord mobile fucking worked
and acerola this summer
and allowed you to see the pins in threads
arc ghost won't be a support
too many ghost support recently
oh thatās FUCKING stupid
(the video should show you how on mobile)
Why is Red there?
why not
10 ghost supports, 3 ghost supp exr, literally almost a full half of the 27 ghost units in the game are supports
SEUN is nice
please for the love of god. ghost unit that isnt a support
Exr doesn't count
Yes, tech/striker Origin Giratina to knock down SSRC 
She can set it herself
Anyway
Not really...
? its the opposite - she works well with all the other top ghost pairs
with F.Iono, SC irida, Yarrdenia and now 10/5 SS Ingo - good teams with all of them and a few of them fix her shortcomings (ST dps and no extension)
this and having the best AoE ghost nuke is what keeps her good even without a 5/5 grid
10/5 SS Ingo + SSRC is probably going to be the best ghost team now, surpassing SC Irida + Yarrdenia and SSRC + Yarrdenia
and it will likely be the same deal with the ghost arc
Tbh SSRC is one of the best aged pre 3-rd anni MFs. Most of them have no niches now and hopelessly powercrept
you use it pre-enemy sync, get it canceled by sync, then sync with seun
its excellent
6 supports (4 of which in last year)
3 strikers (2 of which in last year)
5 tech
These are the limited ghost units
oh that makes sense actually
What theeee
well i donāt feel like redoing it so i will be happy with my mid score
honestly the thing i kept messing up was i would do shadow force and then forgetting i needed to use my last pre-ssr cyn sync move as ghost wish instead of twave lol
The problem is that those "DPS" units can't keep the pace
That's what I'm saying šāāļø
ss steven with double team works too right
True, Summer Acerola was ghost, right? I forgot since she didnt really do much for ghost (no zone or rebuff), was kind of a generic tank
well still coping that ghost arc willbe a support
no, you need multiple stats in the move or you get hit with the queue penalty
If it's not a support
and iron defense probably sucks too since itās not technically a 2 stat raiser
yep
it raises defense then the passive raises spdef
calm mind would work except that you're back to being a 2 cost
instead of aaron's being 1 cost
and oleana works bc she has twofer in her grid
so 2 cost venom drench but every other one is free
base deoxys has cosmic power????
You don't even need twofer
Atk too
honestly fuggit iāve been meaning to 3/5 oleana for a while
i dont have steven so i cant speak to his viability but
Twofer is 5/5
this gives me reason to finally do that
oh right, i forgot about that
FUUUUUUCK
yeah, its mean lol
You don't NEED it
Damn Colress spam without charging infliction

But it helps for consistency
ur gonna run out of gauge so fast without twofer
You're not
or without wasting time getting the entire party to +6 speed
its like when you run melony
you need to be smart/careful about it
but you can do it
Shes alrdy pretty weak if not for DC making her useful
bro what
Like Sundering 9 is such a dated passive
Have to bring the whole garage just to set her up
b r o w h a t
Kek
And a Ghost Zone setter without zone extension
Shes like an ant that can be crushed the moment a new unit releases
||Liking the SSR Cynthia slander
||
Unless the arc unit has zone + nuke
Thats only because ghost roster is so bad, its not because shes "so good"
I never said she's "so good"
F.Iono will ofc be replaced by the ghost arc
for the rest it will depend on what the ghost arc does. I think Yarrdenia and SSRC are safer than SC Irida since they have zone
10/5 SS Ingo is pretty safe
SSRC herself will likely only be full replaced by the stronger newer Giratina, as long as it has an AoE nuke
But between all ghost units, she's still a top cut
BWEHHHH i wish i had a billion tech candies
Ye the best orange at the bottom of the barrel
like, if nothing else she has phys ghost as a niche
i have so many 1/5 or 2/5 tech units that i want to get to 3/5
If type weaknesses wasnt a thing then every field unit will be rolling over her
Ofc
if ghost arc is phys, then she will have competition but probably more synergy than not
That Strike EXR really salvaged her
... yes, thats what exrs are doing for many master fairs
But her having zone + extremely high AoE nuke means she won't likely be cut out
like, if she had been tech/field
Even tho she's ass at everything else
Rmb she was barely good in her own High Score
that would be neat, but it also would be way more pigeonholed
Thats not bad, she will still be useful when someone surpasses her nuke
She was also dealt an horrible hand
Cmon
Let's be objective
like, as is i use her in csmm a decent amount
Those high score stages seemed to be made to make her unusable
A horrible hand in all 5 stages because outside of ghost weak shes super weak
Not just that cmon
Like SS leaf does more than her offtype
yeah like
Well ye to declare my bias though
I dont own SSR

Again, not saying she's a great unit, but it wasn't inherently her viability the problem
The problem was every stage countering her specifically
Pretty much
thats kinda true, but irrelevant sicne she only needs to be compared to other ghosts, not to the other super busted types
she is in a pretty good spot right now and the only way a ghost arc would outright replace her is if its like Arc Cynthia (does and sets everything, while also having the best damage) and something that broken is once every 5 years 
Every 12 months*
what are you smoking
DPS wise I could see that
on some level, she is going to be 'worse' in the same way sygna red is 'worse' nowadays. its just an older unit. of course shes not going to do as much as a unit released this amount of power creep later
Leaf has Sundering 9 that can be used AoE
but you dont only look at dps, but the nukes too
but like
And Leaf's superawakening gives her -1 grass rebuff AoE with her Razor Leaf
shes certainly a better master fair than fuckin. leon
... thanks clair?
Me when some 2021 units are crazy strong
im trying to make a point but
Me when a 2020 unit is better than a 2024 one
her 10/5 sync will still be miles below SSRC
you dont exactly use SS leaf for her raw damage
sorry that i break up my messages instead of sending a paragraph at a time
Miles...not really?
But it being ST is definitely a huge drawback
Dw I wasn't literally meaning what the meme said
I'M SO CLOSE
GODDAMN IT
And Gloria, being a 2020 unit and no EXR is better than a 2024 unit like Poppy in this mode
That was random, but whatever
the only pre 3-rd anni MF that I would compare to her nowadays are SS Lyra and SS Kris
all the others are in a worse spot IMO
yeah
like
considering her peer class of units in the same tier released in a similar timeframe
archie and maxie?? anni steven??
they gave anni steven a passive to entirely negate the cost of dragon ascent and hes STILL bad lmao
getting Tech+Strike also helped .. A LOT
having the best nuke role combo + a manual WZT makes it way more acceptable to have low dps
yeah field would be worse - especially since eventually the 5/5 MF grids will probably come out - and the chance of getting an extension at 5/5 is pretty high
getting extension is much easier than getting expanded sync passive
Anyway, just putting out there that an optimal renegade nuke is barely 1/8th stronger than ssleafs
I hope the latter gets strike exR, but I guess she's getting support
i would love to know what denas exr assignment system looks like
it does sometimes feel like theyre playing darts

Colress should be better here, provided your Gardenia has EXR
I used Barry because of Cynthia's master passive
master passives dont affect sync damage
but Colress Screech def drops do
he can also paralyze all 3 at once which is better
true
I'm looking at Sina, and I feel like she has a shot at beating NC Red in ice 3v3
I think her sync is weaker, but she compensates by having so much accel that she might be able to use 1 more sync
With Chase and Melony
Her TM is -2 countdown, using 3 berries (which is fast) is -3 thanks to the passive, sprint is another -3...
i was wondering why no one seemed to be mentioning her team seun on sync too
Yeah it's good
accel + seun + zone +....
if she had a more controlable zone, like on 1st b move use or smth, that'd be crazy
fair lol
the whole berry thing she and dexio have going on is way too complicated for me
but
they look neat
Except on Pal Victor imho, all of them are just "hey, that's not a berry, that's a 3 to 0 counter and when do you smth it's lowered by 1"
Washed af
like sure ok its giving you the choice of 'do you want healing or do you want strength'
but like
you have no tm mpr, you have one berry ''''''mpr''''' at 5/5
im also peeved that hilda is a grassy terrain unit, which is something i direly need (esp bc its infinite grassy terrain) but ughhhhh
can we get shiny eeveelutions one of these years for some variety or Something. hilda doesnt match leafeon at all, especially not since we already have adaman, sygna erika, and mc eggmon (which, sure, can be shiny, but like)
Soften up sounds like a possible candidate for a SA passive.
How does this fight work?
Dont forget Archie was randomly showing up in top score for a "support" role.
That is the most funniset thing for me recently.
because he's the only pair with rain + status lol
Hard tell 9h + left
Need further calculations to confirm
Plus she can self evasion so she doesnt necessary need Chase
except she still wants chase
to top her evasion and spa
as well as para and circle ofc
Add meeeeee
Chases primary DC purpose is para + speed buffs for Melony spam
the rest are just a bonus
nah that's nc blue's role
if you have both and are using chase it's for the evasion and circle specifically
chase is used if theres aoe right then melony tanks as to not proc his reactive passive?
assuming the unit even wants chase
and Chases. They both do it. If you dont have nc blue, you can go Chase
ofc Circle is good, but you could still use Melony spam even w/o circle
also Chase is far better at paralysing all 3 enemies even at 1/5 due to para passive from AoE
while nc blue needs 2/5 for HE2 and even with HE2 he only has 9% to para all 3
every dc stage has an aoe move
technically chase is always better with special dps, just less consistent
so should i be using 1/5 chase over 3/5 nc blue
if both are caked
depends
1/5 chase has no extension so having to circle twice sometimes is too slow regardless
and blue ends up just being better
you should try both every time technically
even sometimes 3/5 chase is still worse and I can't really tell why
I completely forgot about this event šš
Nobody got a F2P go brr and get minimums eh
Because all f2p fighting units 5* are all striker iirc
step 1 to using Brawly: Riley is right there
but fighting is still an exceptionally shallow type which is its actual problem
gotta wait for fighting arc pair, ash and lucario
It wont help f2p fighting roaster tho, which is what the above comment is complaining.
For limited presense NC Hop is right there and alr reach over 4M which is top 3 score in st dc.
you put your one spammer on the one battle that you donāt put spammers on
a spammer with SSR Cynthia and your total score basically triples immediately
I can try.
slide Colress up there, stick Aaron against Barry, run it back
I'll just use Barry on Hau.
Barryās fine but Colress amplifies Cynthiaās physical sync
Is it because he can debuff reliably?
Or is there something in his grid that gives her PMUN?
It's the debuffs.
her sync move is physical, defense debuffs amplify physical damage
Barry provides no additional value there over him
Whatās mortyās best team with 3/5 exr yardenia?
All I keep getting are marginal PBs on Diantha's stage
do you use shadow force before enemy sync for SEUN?
Yea that seems a lil low if shes exr
enemy's sync cancels shadow force, but SEUN remains, so you can use it for sync
with redlax it just eases the rng a little so it might not be a huge improvement without also switching off redlax
Morty has like few different 1M team. Just chack the doc.
I prefer colress for defense debuffs but barry gives 2x sync buff if ex'd
So they about balance out in the long run
Use whoever you dont have planned for another team
probably colress if support ex is on the team already and barry if not
Exr gardenia
then yea colress
I never touched Shadow Force, honestly.
I was just trying to spam Sync.
it's also good as last move if you have enough time to fit it in
919k with 3/5 no exr ss diantha aaron and sc steven
@royal jolt how rng is nc leaf nc rosa redlax?
wasnāt that confirmed to be photoshopped
we caught him since he used the exact same score in a supposed ā1mā run on fairy ST with pal dawn
since then heās lost much of his credibility
yeah, as we say in the splatoon community the 1.1m erika clear was 
Actually they thought it could be a good running gag but didn't make it clear.
Very
If you mean 3M? Very
For 1M? Easy
I wish
I was not gonna record > stop recording > resume recording > stop for hours š

Woo
Thereās a 1.2m rock team with 5/5 no exr ss diantha aaron and paulo
Would that be better?
My paulo is 4/5 exr
Why am I weirded out that I'm seeing lower SS Diantha scores than me that have the exact same team as mine 
Mine maybe 5/5, but my SC Steven is only 1/5
What's your score / team?
Aaron/SC Steven/SS Diantha 1.5M+
Is Diantha 5/5 EXR?
Yes
Then that's why
Idk
I feel like I got lucky with my score
5/5 EX Aaron with HS1
1/5 EX SC Steven with HS1
3/5 EXR SS Diantha with CS2
I feel like I could've gotten closer to 2M if I got 2/5 SC Steven
No exr on diantha
I actually have to click rock wish twice

Also i use type gears
rei just barely gets past 1M for ST Fighting huh?
oh well, that's enough
Good thing sprints have innate
Should i 3/5 Barry or tierno
Umm excuse me why is better a sing spammer than lodge barry
if you have to pick between the two and you mean their dc counterparts then barry needs it more
there is no lodge barry
Oh My bad. Barry and roserade then
You mean Sing spammer
Because the fail animation is faster
charging infliction is slower
costs time
melony/rosa don't get slowed down by a passive and elio only gets slowed down some of the time
so sing is regularly getting out 1-2 more syncs
But the gauge isnt a problem?
it is but nc blue/chase/sonia can provide
Rosa is technically better here not only because of the fighting rebuff, but also because of her providing speed
and redlax tms give some time for gauge to recover
if your damage dealer is providing decent gauge
Well, your score will definitely not be high
Rei barely gets 1M with some comps
I only can do it in some fights
As for me, I got 1M with him using NC Rosa and SSA Cynthia
if you have nc blue you can just run nc blue/melony as your bread and butter for most stuff and get decent results most of the time
what move level is rei
Rei is 3
run with that
Him, rosa and nc blue?
yeah
sensing redlax might be more optimal than blue since rei is good on gauge?
remember to use his body slam to para, at 1/5 you'll have to rely on 30% though
Can't you potentially get infinie SEUN with Rei's TM?
sing spam relies on para to not deal with animations
yea ig that could make blue more ideal
one of his passives boosts sync moves so that could theoretically be best
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Thank you!
What's the optimal strat for the current challenge now that the mode is known better? No Bianca, ofc
Potential very first top 100 
deceptively low
Been wondering how to get an extra mil on my Hau score
might just be gear issue
are you doing the thing where you shadow force before they sync for SEUN
maybe u are just missing crits then
Every single time though? That can't explain a 1M+ shortfall
I'm guaranteed top 500, which I'm happy
maybe is move level issue, donāt have SSRC so donāt know too much
Everyone just gets 2M and I don't know how or why
Maybe 4 syncs, but it's impossible. I only get 3 at the very last seconds
donāt spam with both at the same time
leer is not worth when colress already drops def
swap to eVictor for ghost zone
Not spamming Leer didn't help. Last sync is at 23 seconds remaining, which is not enough to do anything
cynthia covers her own ghost zone
can you run a sing spammer
Victor Ghost Zone at the cost of no support sync and no spdef debuff which hurts the multiplier?
and Iām pretty sure spamming with both together is not optimal
when you have lenora it's perfectly fine to run bp barry and have 2m within range
Notes:
Lenora is fine at 1/5 non-EX, she's here only to debuff (I used her gridless with Vigilance)
This run does NOT require any paralysis proc.
Roll for one Cynthia TMmpr at start and that's all you need.
SSR Cynthia 3/5 EXR, BP Barry 3/5 EX, Lenora EX
Sync once with Barry, then always with Cynthia
After last sync, queue one Barry stun spore ...
Why is BP Barry better here? Another support sync?
Because he's the only spammer with support EX
colress offers nothing over bp barry
oh yeah the aoe para
but there's enough time to triple para with bp barry anyway
or there can be
Yoooooo
But one less sync with Cynthia. So it's gonna be only 2
I feel pretty proud of my performance this time around
alr, final check: how far down have i been pushed in 12 hours
I felt that spiritually
honestly i was expecting to get shoved out of top 10k by now
ssr cyn carrying me to my first ranked title lmao
video does 1 sync with support ex and 3 with cynthia
What's your rank? ^^
3445 currently
Nice!
definitely not up there with yall in the to 20
or however much higher you've hiked your score since then fgjkhfdjg
but hey, title's a title
Well 1 support sync is what I was already doing before. Regardless though, outcome is exactly the same as all my other attempts
Not by much
But, it's enough
The real issue was SS Diantha
is there a reason you're not maxing -spdef
its a multiplier, you're only losing yourself time tbh
That seems eerily low...
Are you doing the Shadow Force trick?
also, you should be using shadow force right before raichu syncs
Yes or she wouldn't even be hitting 1M
so that you get seun on your sync
yeah it wasn't colress/bp barry being the issue
like it could just be bad crit luck
Maybe
Because that team could easily be 2M
you're not mpr-ing her
lenora can max debuff and still get 4 total syncs
youre only at +4 spatk and -4 def/spdef on opponent
and also yeah not maxing out your own offense
you want max atk/spatk on cynthia and min def/spdef on offense (def in this case bc lenora does both at the same time)
so uh
that i would say is your #1 issue
Uh, this team can't max those stats?
stack... um
MPR on Cynthia's TM can do it
It's on the way to one of her multipliers
theres this thing called a sync grid
like... are you running haunted healing for some cursed reason??
I cannot believe I picked up Pep Talk 4 lmao
i had to be talked out of going for ghost wish mpr
which, im glad i was to be clear
but
Two is more than enough
yeah
I can get three syncs in one zone
the paranoia at the end of watching it blink just always kills me lmao
It makes me physically squirm
time the zones after 1:40 and 0:50 and you'll always be safe
but yeah anyway. reset for cynthia mpr, use leer 6 times not 4
yeah, for me it fell into the timing of right after shadow force sync cancel
i messed it up. so many times
bc i autopiloted to twave instead
yeah and that's why you're so unconfident
Yeah. It's always shadow force, then zone
But, sometimes the opponent would be too slow and lead me to be too ahead
lyndis what im hearing is u and i were both sitting there going shit goddamnit it not again as we reset over and over on the same things
i coulve reset and tried for 2mil
but i know i am too stupid dfhgjfdhkj
Lmao yeah
I couldn't figure out what was going on because my move order was the exact same
Sometimes, Hau would go too fast
Hau usually syncs after both of my supports sync
the post-sync move delay is truly SO frustrating
sometimes its asap, sometimes its like
five whole seconds
ugh
But, there were moments where he used his sync while I was on my way to my second support sync
fascinating....
I only wish I had recorded my actual best runs
I dunno about making it high on the board
Single grass...
My clear was 1,009,000 or something around that
All I've got is SS Erika, so
it definitely can be a pain to record everything but if you do get in the habit it can be really nice to go back and reference
i didn't save any recordings for ssr cynthia bc i thought my runs were trash, 2.3m with bp barry/dahlia
i saw people get much higher with the same team but idk how much is gear
Somehow that made the difference. I've never gotten 2M on any challenge ever

It used to be a habit, but these runs took forever
I didn't really wanna record > stop when I had to reset or got a trash run > record > stop > etc.
I totally get the reference thing
yeah, for me its the fact that it just takes so long much longer to rip a run if im recording
I like to document my runs. But, m a n
so i tend to accidentally forget to re-press record and then i just ughhhh
Easy 2M!
Congrats
That was also my first 2M in DC, I think
Play this exact precise way and reset a ton. I wouldn't say easy. But thanks for the guidance. I had revisited this one several times throughout the challenge period
oh you stop recording on every reset? should be better to just do every run on a single recording until you get something and then trim it out
that's what i do
its just does ssr cyn mpr or nah
Yeah
The reason is totally stupid
I like to have stuff start on the ready up screen
That's it
my phone would explode dhjdfjk
bc i would 100% forget i was recording, get distracted by a discord ping, and then it would be trying to save a 4 hour video
also yeah ghost triple i was still in 2/5 ssr, but im def gonna go for 2mil when it re-cycles in
Also
Storage. But, that can be fixed if I stopped being lazy
oh yeah wanting recordings like that is a massive time sink
Fingers crossed
arc cynthia?
š¤ good luck lyndis!
I wonder if we'll get a rotation in which I can confidently do all three stages
oh god ground single sure was a long time ago huh
Shout out to Courtney, my beloved
no charging infliction for paraspam, no ex supp sync, just bertha for sand and a prayer
much like lenora has yet to show up for me, courtney is still at 1/5 somehow
Keep grinding for top 500? 
If you wanna, you gotta do it now
I used the special scout when she released
3/5 immediately
Courtney*
Wdym?
malva/talonflame
team flare admin kalos e4 member
released as a spotlight after anni
No no, ik her
Who is "tai?"
(hi tai this is me reminiscing on your malva dc submission <3)
i hope you got a good malva score for fire ranked
I wish I had Malva
but yeah like
YEAH!!!

and soon you can pair her with dc tierno to set sun and just pretend its both malva talonflames
I hoped she would've had both Flare Blitz and Brave Bird with Recoil Removal 9
god if only
NOW WE WAIT
These moments are always more nerve-wracking than the actual runs themselves
Bestie I tried doing more runs but Chase is clumsy today
Felt
but ok. before i forget: somehow all the genpool units who would genuinely help my overall roster strength i have at either 2/5 (nessa, darach, bertha, volkner, may, elio, gordie), 1/5 (aaron [who i know i dont Need higher than 1/5 for the most part but. augh], courtney, olympia, guzma), or i just. have not managed to pull (lenora, gladion, [who i mostly want for lodge gladion], guzma only recently left this category)
and instead i get... more glacia dupes from my full pool tickets and dupes of ryuki/kukui or grimsley from my regionals 
alas
Guzma and SC Barry carried me in triple bug
for the next single: poison, whats the best pair
Ig thats top 100
Good work, everyone!
Honestly, I'm still okay with the fact I got top 1000 for the first time in anything. Sure beats the salt mines of High Score grinding
where is the schedule for DC?
Novermber 21 - November 29
Guess if I want to get top 100 once this is my very last chance, before 10/5
starts pestering the ranks
when is this for ?
todays?
what would be good teammates with courtney, i dont have bp barry and 1/5 colress btw
Today shouldn't be an AOE stage?
in my very "expert" opinion its not even that accessible for whales
cuz move candies are just hard to get even if u buy them
Well if they always do 10 mulitis for all future pf banners they dont need that much move candies.
If u do ur multis only in one banner u can get roughly 3 SA in two months
And a bunch of coins
So it's not a whale only thing
Imo for their self imposed problem they handled it pretty well
Can only know until ghost dc drop but I think he has potential to be top in 3v1
he definitely has
Will-o-wisp spam 
maybe Chase + EVictor can sustain the WoW spam? Idk lol
without haunted acceleration on his own grid the gauge has to be too bad to be worth it
WoW is a cool abbre
I dunno man, he could pull something I think
you've seen much more than i have so maybe
pal serena can spam without speeding sun
but she's also faster
with the right partner I think he can spam himself 
We'll have to see but I have hopes
I'll definitely try it, mine will be 3/5 by then
my concerns would be that v kris spam or dahlia spam weren't completely definitively better than just going back to sing but idk how well-tested they were
and ingo seems in a worse position relatively
trope had a screenshot with melony v kris that was higher than his submitted score
if you have the gauge, sing or anything else is the same
I got 886k in grass 3v1 with ss erika nc blue 3/5 dahlia. Had trouble with gauge near the end
It's ok, he can alternate with tm mpr 
Yeah
you did 10/5 her ?
I borrow to test some funny stuff
record a clear with their account 
nc hop
He doesnāt want lol
Not in the leader board



