and bounce might do more dmg
#Damage Challenge
lusty galleon
icy pendant
it's DC relying on a 30% is hardly bad
dusk sundial
Yeah
hollow wadi
That’s fair lol
dusk sundial
Hitting a crit sync 3 times is 51%
hollow wadi
Yknow I missed like 4 bounces and this is mad unoptimized but we take those
hollow wadi
Magnemite was my only one
Plus Nanu lets me get to -6 defense so that’s nice
Both die quick anyways so I can still dodge with Gloria
stoic crest
What is the best option for this? I have stuff like champion blue and red lax. Please ping me
lapis yarrow
What is the strat with solo Gloria? Spam Bounce?
plain cedar
do the sides have the same defences as mid
plain cedar
gotcha
should try paralyzing everyone the.
died to Earthquake during a Cinderace solo attempt
feels like everything missed BUT that
working with this grid
lusty galleon
you need 1 TM MPR at the start, use it again
MAX Move then bounce
if you want, you could try to use the eggmon strat we were talking a bit before right now
and drop Defense crush 9 for just more damage overall
loud cedar
1 sync without seun
plain cedar
plain cedar
yeah, Bounce missed thrice
not gonna do more
already don’t rly care for this mode so I’m taking my million and running
dry whale
There it is.
lusty galleon
just doing some numbers with what you provided on the skill gear (33% damage increase is quite insane)
1,115,294 increased to 1,483,342 (368,048)
1,522,572 increased to 2,025,021 (502,449)
888,497 damage by just the Skill Gear
dry whale
That's actually pretty crazy
crude sandal
There it is.
https://youtu.be/MW_KYCHFiJQ?si=XABZ-VroMuEREVnc
DC units EXR when
crude sandal
There it is.
https://youtu.be/MW_KYCHFiJQ?si=XABZ-VroMuEREVnc
Also, Silver needs 3/5 or not?
dry whale
Probably not but it helps, Shifty Striker needs 3/5.
crude sandal
So this is his true potential then
crude sandal
Probably not but it helps, Shifty Striker needs 3/5.
What EXR would be best for Silver? At least for this specific DC
dry whale
Support
crude sandal
Knew it
crude sandal
Support
How many syncs did you get in? Haven't watched the vid yet
Maybe I'll watch later for the rotation
crude sandal
Only 2 syncs on Cheren?
dry whale
Yup
dry whale
Yes, 2 of them but you could just do Fly at the start and only fish for 1 tm mpr
Using the tm is just slightly faster
The damage difference is only about 20k
sacred badger
DC units EXR when
tech exr for sprint ones.
either strike/support exr for the field ones.
now we're gaming.
crude sandal
tech exr for sprint ones.
either strike/support exr for the field ones.
I think support EXR would be best for DC Wally
Because, you know, paralyze
And also Sp. Def. drop too
cunning rock
I wouldn't get any of them getting Sprint or Field, more Field/Sprint units pls
sullen zephyr
Why did nc cheren lose gym leader and rival themes just to gain cape 
cursive linden
Ask that to Chop too
iron gulch
cloud timber
Why did nc cheren lose gym leader and rival themes just to gain cape <:MistyAnge...
happens with everything really, lot of alts lose gym leader for random stuff that doesn't matter
like ss brock
sullen zephyr
Could have used my stronger gear had he kept GL 
cloud timber
yea it sucks
sullen zephyr
Would make him more versatile for BR too
cloud timber
ss elesa is also another one that sticks out in my memory though ofc they're very old and not quite meta relevant
but it's happened since the start
civic island
There it is.
https://youtu.be/MW_KYCHFiJQ?si=XABZ-VroMuEREVnc
Yoo that's crazy, Cheren 4m 
true locust
Adept did 3,7m whit not the best skill gear
If skill gear 33% its nothing surprice 4 m
delicate junco
First try, not bad
fossil tinsel
Is it the grid for cinderace strat?
crude sandal
First try, not bad
Why are you using BP Barry?
lusty galleon
Is it the grid for cinderace strat?
depending on your move level, yeah, that's just one idea
chilly sierra
I’ll settle here
fossil tinsel
depending on your move level, yeah, that's just one idea
👍
sullen zephyr
The nc cheren + dc silver + spammer team has pretty low rng and consistent high score
Only needs mpr rng. Maybe some dodges.
+10pmun fly sucks
fossil tinsel
Idk if i can do better
, just started game 2 weeks ago i think
sacred badger
uhhhh
iirc challenger gloria can solo and hit 1mil tbh.
not sure if she can do it without EX though.
lusty galleon
EX does have an impact lol
sacred badger
yeah, if you can EX her, she might help you out since it is 50% damage upgrade if you EX her.
fossil tinsel
EX is the one with the 5* power up?
sullen zephyr
Is leer spamming any slower than para spam?
sullen zephyr
EX is the one with the 5* power up?
Yeah you need 5* 20/20 to ex
lusty galleon
EX is the one with the 5* power up?
EX is what you unlock by using 20 5* Power Ups, then you have to use 50 Champion Spirits to unlock it... the later are gotten by defeating Champion Stadium
lusty galleon
Is leer spamming any slower than para spam?
very slow... a Status Move that reduces or raises ONE single Stat (added skill effects do not count or the amount of ranks) have a way slower animation
Leer/Screech failing animations are very slow against a target with -6 def, while Noble Roar against a target with -6 offenses is as fast as Stun Spore/Thunder Wave spam against an enemy with a Status Condition
normal parcel
The only 1 bar fast moves are sing, defend order and normal Deoxys cosmic power
Everything else is either 2+ bars or mp limited
sullen zephyr
I can consistently get 2.8M with nc cheren + dc silver + colress
Silver's 3/5 but that turns out to be completely unnecessary
normal parcel
Isn't BP Barry better?
sullen zephyr
Barry takes too long to para 3 opps, and his ex supp sync isn't worth it when i can only sync 2 times with cheren
Better to para all 3 at once with colress and sync 3 times and cheren
vapid kernel
New strategy unlocked omg
lethal siren
I love this F2p run
And it was first attempt
lethal siren
Ex buff where
sullen zephyr
I love this F2p run
And it was first attempt
f2p
chase
Bestie...
lethal siren
>f2p
>chase
Bestie...
Just need chase
sullen zephyr
Lodge skyla might be the better f2p option since she has self seun and no mega tax
lethal siren
Do we have any sing eggmon?
misty forge
Iirc they're all 2 bars
lethal siren
Rip
sullen zephyr
3M lfggg 
lethal siren
Bp rose has freebie 9
Only If he had any status move
He could have been a single target colress
fossil tinsel
not sure if she can do it without EX though.
I think not bad improve, though I don’t have any good gear for now so maybe capped, and no screech except magneton iirc
sacred badger
iirc she can solo it tbh.
crude sandal
Now I'm ready for the next electric 3v1 DC
sullen zephyr
I think not bad improve, though I don’t have any good gear for now so maybe capp...
You should check out the status spam strat
sullen zephyr
Now I'm ready for the next electric 3v1 DC
You're gonna 3/5 her?
sacred badger
if you ahve colress 3/5, that might also work @fossil tinsel
crude sandal
You're gonna 3/5 her?
Let's see
sullen zephyr
Do it. Make Zeen proud.
fossil tinsel
if you ahve colress 3/5, that might also work <@290387144391000065>
I don't have him unfortunately
fossil tinsel
You should check out the status spam strat
the sing strat? though I don't have skyla for that
crude sandal
Now I'm ready for the next electric 3v1 DC
Wait, where's the best score on electric 3v1 with her again?
sullen zephyr
the sing strat? though I don't have skyla for that
Bp barry works
Or melony
Or 3/5 colress but i doubt you have him if you just started 2 weeks ago
fossil tinsel
yeah I have melony, but I don't have any good fly nuker. though I watched some spam strat, I was wondering why they ult with zapdos + melony and then skyla?
rain copper
EX Support
Your Gloria is already a nuker
You can just bring 2 EX supports and let Gloria handle the sync accel by hersel
Altho i don't know if it is better than just soloing with her
fossil tinsel
EX Support
oh so how does it work?
sullen zephyr
Wait can gloria just spam bounce to self accel?
sacred badger
Wait can gloria just spam bounce to self accel?
she can iirc.
rain copper
Sync with each support once, that's it
crude sandal
Where's the 4M clear with C. Elesa during electric 3v1?
sullen zephyr
What the fuck
sacred badger
yeah its for soloing o.o
sullen zephyr
That's a full sync cycle with 3 bounces, every sync cycle
sacred badger
i remember seeing her do 5m by herself....
super expensive but will hit as far as you can sync like mad.
sullen zephyr
Sync +50 too
vagrant ivy
I think not bad improve, though I don’t have any good gear for now so maybe capp...
mc torchic seeing DC usage???
sacred badger
they probably dont have a lot of sync pairs to run with.
vagrant ivy
using low tier supports to drop defense is a thing ig but fainting eats time
that’s why people do the solo
sullen zephyr
super expensive but will hit as far as you can sync like mad.
Why tmpr when max move already maxes atk?
vagrant ivy
evasion
crude sandal
Where's the 4M clear with C. Elesa during electric 3v1?
Anyone?
fossil tinsel
that’s why people do the solo
👍
Will try solo
tried and it seems i get same or a bit less than 750k
sacred badger
hrm, post a recording of your run?
sullen zephyr
Is +1 evasion worth rolling for 30% tmpr
I think taking sync +50 would prolly be better
sacred badger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kKN7tW5j0U they had +6 eva, still get hit. .-.;
normal parcel
Barry takes too long to para 3 opps, and his ex supp sync isn't worth it when i ...
Is triple para that mandatory?
Cheren doesn't have paralysis multipliers
orchid wagon
if you don't have para multipliers from gear, no
normal parcel
So if you don't have para multipliers from gears barry is better
orchid wagon
yea, supp sync is nice
normal parcel
And I guess even if you have just 3/4% isn't worth sacrificing support ex
If you have like 20% then is a different story
orchid wagon
i'd say so
sullen zephyr
Is triple para that mandatory?
I thought triple para helps them not spam their move so often
cloud timber
not worth the extra animations to get there
fossil tinsel
hrm, post a recording of your run?
Will do
sullen zephyr
2 dmg syncs with supp and field sync: 2.5+3=5.5
3 dmg syncs with only field sync: 1.5+2+2.5=6
Not to mention cheren benefits from more syncs to stack pmun and smun
sullen zephyr
not worth the extra animations to get there
What the hell have i been triple paralyzing for 
cloud timber
extra time loss 
fossil tinsel
hrm, post a recording of your run?
sullen zephyr
Can i post clear videos here or should i post them on youtube and link them here
lapis yarrow
Maybe I can get this higher?
fluid anvil
Skyla at 5,5M now 
sullen zephyr
Wait i just did some numbers and it looks like under normal circumstances (no sprint exrole or other sync power ups from passives, for example) trading a dmg sync for a supp sync is never worth it
Maybe i should bring this over to #916852389347196958
sacred badger
https://youtu.be/JzpOpd4jjhQ
oh i see it now.
you werent at max atk
can i see your grid?
fossil tinsel
sacred badger
basically praying for a tm refresh
you managed to dodge the eq side too.
also i probably wouldn't triple speed when you're at under a minute
fossil tinsel
oh ok I see
also I just saw your vid, I didn't do kickoff skill twice or three times in a row
sacred badger
you only really need 1 tm refresh to max atk tbh.
fossil tinsel
isn't it +4 attack only instead of +6 for max atk?
sacred badger
her tm is +4 ATK. 1 TM Refresh will give you max if it triggers
sullen zephyr
why not just go for max +2 atk? you're gonna use max move at the start anyway
sacred badger
he's trying to replicate sdtk's run
rain copper
She gonna be the carry fr fr
sacred badger
huh. she's got crit. inertia... but its hail orz.
fossil tinsel
Better
fossil igloo
That's my goal achieved for this round.
lethal siren
That's my goal achieved for this round.
Why colress
fossil igloo
It was just faster than using BP Barry to spread paralysis. The Thunder Wave spam also helped.
lethal siren
Fine
vapid kernel
Lorelei wat
Towering Force op
thick stump
So I haven't even touched this dc yet. I have 1/5 champ cheren that I could 3/5 and exr but I don’t have anyone who could set up his cakewalk efficiently (no pal serena who I usually see used with him)
And idk if blue can get 1 mil w/o chase
sullen zephyr
So I haven't even touched this dc yet. I have 1/5 champ cheren that I could 3/5 ...
dc silver can debuff speed amd spdef and set flying zone
thick stump
But neither of them can status so sing spam wouldnt work
thick stump
Does silver have to be 3/5?
warped gulch
Nah
sullen zephyr
i got 2 extra copies of him thinking shifty striker 3 would be useful. it wasnt
sullen zephyr
sullen zephyr
i'm submitting my clear to the sheet so you can check it out
my first recorded clear 
sullen zephyr
did you use your first bmove before or after silver's sync?
zone always lasted 3 syncs for me
thick stump
Before
I think a dodge or para is needed
Because it runs out just as I used 3rd sync
sullen zephyr
there was 1 dodge, but zone lasted for the final bmove, so idk why it wouldn't last for the final sync just before 
did you at leadt get 2M?
thick stump
Yup
But yea shifty striker on silver does definitely help to fish for more dodges
Im just using his tm on himself once so he doesnt miss air cutters + for the +2 eva
sullen zephyr
yeah his tm can be helpful
i didn't use it because i wasn't sure i would have enough time for the final bmove, because there is a lag after the sync to apply smun and pmun
thick stump
Yea
sullen zephyr
but if you put adrenaline or head start on silver then you can prolly get enough time to use his tm, maybe even 2 (mpr at 2/5)
rose basalt
what are people using for ice single
brazen dew
can blue get 1m this dc
Yes
fair mist
does it involve a different strategy than melony spam cuz he ran out of gauge for sync power flux
brazen dew
I used chase + melony and had no problem
dry whale
Seeing some discussion on using Colress over Barry. From a score standpoint it's Barry all day. Assuming head start 1 time wise it's also pretty close
Perfect run Colress vs Barry
sullen zephyr
what are people using for ice single
Nc red
sullen zephyr
Seeing some discussion on using Colress over Barry. From a score standpoint it's...
Did you sync with both colress and barry?
dry whale
Barry yes, Colress no
sullen zephyr
Don't you have gears that give 33% sync up on para?
fair mist
I used chase + melony and had no problem
idk when i used nc blue i was at like 1 or 2
but maybe chase is better for that
dry whale
Does not matter both score have the same gear on
fair mist
Did you sync with both colress and barry?
why would you sync with colress
smokescreen sync doesnt really help here
sullen zephyr
I mean i got 3.2M on 4% sync gears with colress so i imagine you'd score 27% more than i did
dry whale
It's that last nuke , the score just jumps pretty freaking high with Barry
thick stump
I just wanna pass 3 mil since im so close
Got it
@sullen zephyr
Yeah I needed 2 misses
Especially from simisage
sacred badger
rip though.
sacred badger
he can't buff his atk + crit for some ungodly reason
thick stump
Congrats <:DahliaCheer:995882826580893708>
You beat me <:PrycePain:971377771987...
What gear + damage rolls do to a mf
I had WTZ sync + 100 sp atk
dry whale
Congrats <:DahliaCheer:995882826580893708>
You beat me <:PrycePain:971377771987...
I take it back, it's quite a bit closer but much harder to hit.
I got close 5 times but never was able to hit the last sync under flying zone while using 2 tm on the last 2 syncs. You probably need 4 dodges after you have set zone , 3 if earthquake gets a para prock to make it before Zone falls off.
Eyeballing the numbers with my gear I can probably hit 3.7, 3.8 maybe 3.9.
With Barry you don't got to worry about that.
sullen zephyr
So with Barry you only get 2 cheren syncs but because of that you don't have to worry about zone running out.
While with colress you have an extra cheren sync but that can also cause the last sync to fall out of zone duration. And the final bmove too.
vapid kernel
Seeing some discussion on using Colress over Barry. From a score standpoint it's...
Ya Colress is much slower
Almost no one uses him anymore
crude sandal
Almost no one uses him anymore
Ah yes, because steel 3v1 doesn't exist
And also NC Bianca doesn't exist
sullen zephyr
what's the verdict on charging infliction vs infliction freebie? which one is faster?
vernal condor
same
icy pendant
isn't it charging infliction by frames?
vernal condor
At this point it doesnt matter
icy pendant
they both pale in comparison to sing spam, but if I had to choose between by barry and colress I'd go barry in 95% of circumstances
normal parcel
I thought triple para helps them not spam their move so often
Helps but I don't think is that impactful, maybe if it saves you a move and you are super tight, but definitely not worth using stun spore thrice
brazen dew
As long as it doesnt cost a sync, ig its fine as may have para multipliers on gears
icy pendant
there isn't a viable infliction freebie user that provides a support ex, so it costs a sync multiplier
vapid kernel
Ah yes, because steel 3v1 doesn't exist
Even on tht stage u dont need him
Hes useful on his own Steel ST
tulip lichen
Here’s the kicker
Since this friday a second loop will start
Will we still get gems (or at least tickets) from stage reruns
Imagine you can only get tickets once
vapid kernel
We will (PLEASE)
fossil tinsel
Finally
lusty galleon
nice!
cloud timber
if charging infliction is faster by 2 frames and you're getting 5 total syncs and you're using 5 moves for setup, infliction freebie is leaving potentially 80 frames on the table, or 1.3 seconds
most of the time it won't matter but it definitely can
cloud timber
dodging aoe moves and not having them land on anything
oh but also if colress nets a single extra para proc or the aoe twave slows them down by a single extra action colress does pull ahead
stoic crest
What is the best option? I also have red lax and champion blue. Please ping me
cloud timber
probably nc cheren with bp barry and at least 2/5 ex dc silver but there are other options
can't really fill in more details than that though
sc steven maybe next best?
lodge skyla could do better but both are crossing the 1m mark i would think
with cheren being 1/5
and assuming exr
otherwise without chase for base blue and putting in no further investment in anything the 1m mark would be out of reach
but as for how to best make cheren work i won't be able to answer
stoic crest
otherwise without chase for base blue and putting in no further investment in an...
I have chase but he is only 1/5
cloud timber
ah then if no cake on cheren you're best running chase/melony/base blue
remember to not set chase as tank so set to melony
actually he has sync power flux so elio would help more to make sure that stays maxed out
i believe that would be your best bet
strategy should be roughly the same as usual but you want to wait until max gauge to use your sync
so para, set up stats, then sing spam with elio
and elio needs pretty much nothing from his grid
but speed tiles could help
cloud timber
also bc blue has evasion you want to make sure he's the one set as tank
stoic crest
and elio needs pretty much nothing from his grid
Why elio? Wouldn't triple paralysis from colress be better?
cloud timber
elio is more likely to net an extra sync
triple para isn't overly important but it can help
and elio's support ex matters a lot too
stoic crest
And do I use Kanto zone thing from chase?
cloud timber
yeah
stoic crest
Right before blue sync I presume?
cloud timber
correct
vapid kernel
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/960306675473084426/1297339868363358289/Sc...
Wow
sacred badger
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/960306675473084426/1297339868363358289/Sc...
all the sync is gloria?
lusty galleon
first one is Bianca
sacred badger
cool
lapis yarrow
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/960306675473084426/1297339868363358289/Sc...
Got a video of this by chance?
lapis yarrow
is not hard to do so
I can only get 1.2 mil lol
lapis yarrow
recorded it for you
link?
lusty galleon
I'm uploading it
lapis yarrow
I'm uploading it
ok thanks!
lethal siren
Gloria is really powerful
cloud timber
yeah that looks good
stoic crest
yeah that looks good
And for the paralysis I'm assuming hope that chase gets it with thunder shock?
cloud timber
oh he won't have hostile environment until 2/5
lethal siren
And for the paralysis I'm assuming hope that chase gets it with thunder shock?
Chase has passive that leaves opponent paralyzed when hit by move
Opponent does aoe move first time so ig no problem
cloud timber
you'll get it off his reactive passive though so you can just set up stats and one of the aoe attacks will para
lethal siren
Only simisage do st moves
stoic crest
oh he won't have hostile environment until 2/5
Is that needed? I can candy chase if it's needed
cloud timber
it is not
stoic crest
So basically
stoic crest
Wait melody not Ello?
lethal siren
Ye
stoic crest
And cake chase?
lethal siren
Ye
cloud timber
melony is usable if you don't mind the weakened sync power flux syncs
lethal siren
Both melony and chase has head start tho
stoic crest
I'm so confused what tms do I use on everyone?
lethal siren
Blue has his own head start
stoic crest
Everything is raising sp atk
lethal siren
I'm so confused what tms do I use on everyone?
I used blue tm once
Then 2 chase tm
Chase 3/5 gets smun in x sp atk which allowed me to hit +4 smun hurricane 
stoic crest
Mine is 1/5
lethal siren
Um
Do u have head start or adernaline on them
stoic crest
So...I need to candy chase?
stoic crest
melony is usable if you don't mind the weakened sync power flux syncs
Is that really bad?
cloud timber
hard to tell
lethal siren
I was just going on and on
Didn't look much into it
cloud timber
i just instinctively would prefer to at least try elio first before maybe moving to melony
fair mist
Is that really bad?
imo it matters a lot cuz ur usually at 2-3 and each gauge is 16.7%
lethal siren
I like to use melony because she doesn't have anything like charging infliction or something
stoic crest
I'm not sure what a sync power flux or what I'm looking to make sure it's set.
fair mist
I'm not sure what a sync power flux or what I'm looking to make sure it's set.
its just power flux but for sync
each gauge is 16.7% like i said
cloud timber
fair mist
well no its just that propelling move can help with gauge even if its technically worse off
lethal siren
I choose melony over anything else in atleast triple dc but elio and colress have some moves which really helps
stoic crest
And for blue use all the smell ya later?
cloud timber
this should be good to max out your spa and crit
which is all you're looking for mainly
royal jolt
what's the chance for a crit to sync at +1 crit-rate?
cloud timber
nat crit, 1/16
royal jolt
that's surprisingly low, wow
thanks
so, it goes 6.25% at +1, 50% at +2, and 80% at +3 then?
cloud timber
yeah
royal jolt
noted
fossil tinsel
https://youtu.be/37hFFiV43ck
damn nice
normal parcel
Got better score without interference sync
normal parcel
In the end cheren doesn't really have his time to shine in DC, in sigle target gloria Is Better, in aoe skyla Is Better, but I guess he's the second best option for both, so if you lack one or both he's still viable
crude sandal
In the end cheren doesn't really have his time to shine in DC, in sigle target g...
He has the potential in 3v3 to be the best TBH. He's just hampered because no one can properly set him up
And it's proven how much he can do with 1 sync using DC Silver and BP Barry. He got 2 syncs with that team and got 4M at best. Had he gotten another sync in, he would've knocked Skyla out of the sky
fluid anvil
In the end cheren doesn't really have his time to shine in DC, in sigle target g...
Yeah. oh well
lets hope Flying Arc doesnt also directly powercreep him
vapid kernel
Yeah. oh well
lets hope Flying Arc doesnt also directly powercreep him <:Tabitha...
I hope it does
Cus i dont hv him
acoustic chasm
Me but with fairy arc and not having gladion
crude sandal
Yeah. oh well
lets hope Flying Arc doesnt also directly powercreep him <:Tabitha...
If this flying arc unit can properly lower speed, then Cheren will already be better
true locust
Fly arc unit need be sup:) then
sour lark
Well, it could be Field and still theoretically not steal Cheren's limelight
Then it just steals the other Tornadus' limelight instead
cunning rock
Arc Flying would have -2 Rebuff so they're already stealing Cheren's limelight.
If it also provides Flying zone then RIP Anni Skyla
crude sandal
Arc Flying would have -2 Rebuff so they're already stealing Cheren's limelight.
It only means Cheren doesn't need to use his B Move
cunning rock
He's a Fly spammer now
glossy token
prob wanna switch blue to tank since evasion but
glossy token
ok missed final queue ahead of eq but
thats prob good enough for me, may run it back to see if i can get an additional miss/better crits but eh
... ok i lied now im done lmao
glossy token
well
a) i dont have ex dana. or dana above 1/5
- elio would be.... fine i guess, but using an infliction freebie spammer means i dont have to worry about timing for sync power flux
then ex skyla gives supp sync + def so colress doesnt die to eq
plus potion for empty turn 1 + hs1 so i can go triple hs1
i have no source of flying rebuff, so the only unit who would really make sense to switch her with would be like... redlax?
maybe thats indeed worth
brazen dew
Dc silver for zone might also work, would lose supp ex tho
glossy token
yeah, i have 0/5 dc silver so would require full investment resources
i had a busy week so i have yet to finish my johto badge or rerun it for csmm (or do br)
so i might have enough to do it, but
i've got time now, gonna run one with redlax and see
glossy token
absolutely obnoxious mpr rolling but
if i had been willing to keep resetting for 4x blue tm instead of 3 i couldve gotten more misses and i know at least 1 seun sync didnt crit but
honestly surprised colress held up as well as he did, was expecting him to be way lower hp by the end
vapid kernel
The damage cant be that high
The damage challenge is designed in a way where Lvl 140 pairs almost never die regardless of weakness
vernal condor
Colress is close to dying in this DC
glossy token
i mean
im not clicking colress tm
so hes rawdogging it with his grid defenses
ive had prior dc runs where i had to play around him fainting too
vapid kernel
Colress is close to dying in this DC
Bad dc unit confirmed
In the 2nd cycle im gonna high score all my old Colress clears so his face gonna be removed from my personal bests except in Steel ST
glossy token
but yeah he lived with like ~30% (in part thanks to an eq para lmao)
i mean
why
hes go viral para
thats huge
if you just personally hate him like, i get it but
vapid kernel
I mean ye you buy some time from the opponents but you lose some from his slow Charging
His sync rush cycles take like 30 seconds while Melony's take 20, thats the difference
glossy token
i mean
vapid kernel
If you hv no alternative then you are "stuck" with him but no one uses him if they hv options
glossy token
in strictly optimal cases hes using his go viral para and then you have a secondary spammer
i personally am not a very good measure of success in this regard, im working on a Very limited roster
vapid kernel
Youre doing great getting tht high with Blue haha
Im just saying most ppl hv moved past Colress trend
glossy token
if you can afford to either 20/20 him or fully ex him that would help his durability
"most" people have moved past him bc if you have nc blue to aoe para then yeah you dont really need him
but for those of us without nc blue
nc blue actually has fewer runs on the sheet than colress atm
not many but a few
aoe para just kinda Good
fluid wave
Is the DC schedule going to be updated soon
fluid wave
So gotta wait till the end of the month I assume?
glossy token
its just the dates being shifted
vernal condor
yes
icy pendant
rising tide innate + strike ex innate + support exr is far from terrible
he also has +100bp on grid which is twice as much as most other techs
glossy token
yeah wdym sucks
he and lusamine were top of the pack iirc. granted it was pre sync spam strats but
vapid kernel
It'll be triple psychic? The Nemona one.
time to do better at SS Lusamine
actually i do wonder if a team of SS Lusa + SS Lana + NC Rosa vs SS Lusa + NC Blue + Melony, which would do better
cus 1 psychic rebuff isnt a game changer
altho i can replace Melony with rosa
yes
fluid wave
is just i heard some ppl say ss steven has hard time reaching 1mil
safe prawn
Some ppl were spamming sing with NCRosa.. just without paralysis
glossy token
i guess?
safe prawn
I wonder which is gonna be the best team. My 2 cents will go on not using SSLusamine this time
But ExR Lana
Maybe ExRlana / Red / NcRosa this time
icy pendant
Lusamine had the bulk of her damage tied into her dps right?
ivory kestrel
with the nearing redo of the 3v3 Psychic DC, so for LuSSamine, Hide-and-Sync, or no? If yes, do we have any updated pair who can enable her?
or is it too much of a hassle and not worth it (debuffing in DC in general)
glossy token
we're not hurting for good psychic units so i think no longer 'needing' luSSa's extend reach for dps will lead to variety but
propulsion 1 expand reach prisma laser kinda goes
oh wait no its propulsion 1 as in 20% not guaranteed accel 1
so goes less
but still, double down brain sync 4 sync tiles
could try for hide and sync but bleh
lear being tech/strike will prob show up high on the charts to join her since he also has better spatk
misty forge
with the nearing redo of the 3v3 Psychic DC, so for LuSSamine, Hide-and-Sync, or...
This will be better
open grotto
can blue pair with nc blue and melony to get 1m with this?
glossy token
i mean
i dont see why not?
or well
i dont know that they necessarily enable him hugely well, but
theres little that nc blue melony Cant do (in dc)
your main concern is going to be hitting sync power flux w/ full gauge for og blue
since even with +6 speed all around sing will put you down a bar
open grotto
i'm not sure what i can do better as i did 4 syncs with him and at max hitting 750k damage
cloud timber
not using melony
bp barry/colress/maybe elio can be good for maxing sync power flux
maybe without chase it's better to not work with elio
cloud timber
for 1m 4* won't be enough likely
fair mist
ex is strongly recommended since he is a support
open grotto
ok, will give it a try, thanks
cloud timber
though there are no hard requirements for anything if you're not desperate for a specific goal
open grotto
hmm, if i take the stun spore gauge recover, I can only hit 3 syncs, if i take it out, i have no speed to get the gauge and still only hittin 3 syncs only
cloud timber
is that 3 total or 3 plus support exes
open grotto
3 from pidgeot
cloud timber
5 total is normal
open grotto
total of 5, 2 from both supp, nad 3 from striker
cloud timber
bp barry hits a maximum of 6 generally but this one has x speed all and is triple
and if you're using him you should be pairing him alongside redlax
open grotto
welp then, i can oly hit a maximum of 750k
vapid kernel
Some ppl were spamming sing with NCRosa.. just without paralysis
It was still good! 2.3M
vagrant ivy
what do y’all record your DC clears with
vagrant ivy
bp barry hits a maximum of 6 generally but this one has x speed all and is tripl...
when was the last time something didn’t have x speed all
can’t remember sadly
vagrant ivy
next is ST ice… oh man
thin wren
4 days till Lear gets to shine
cloud timber
best i could get with ghetsis on ice triple was 374k with the assistance of nc blue and 1/5 ss n
but we should have room to fit in like 2 more syncs now
misty forge
NC Red or SS N
Hailless NC red is really not that strong in st
misty forge
It's still like 15-20% weaker than irida, unless you can sync two times more idk if he's straight up better
crude sandal
Wow, full sync nuke Irida at 3/5 requires you to literally have +6 energy
crude sandal
On the other hand, with Melony on the team, Melony will have faster gauge thanks to Hasty Hail
long silo
I have no Irida so I'll still stick to Red
Well I do have 3/5 SS Silver but not yet EX ans I'm unsure if I can afford this week
crude sandal
Actually, if anyone has SS N along with eggmon Glaceon from last year, this will be the perfect opportunity
SS N with para using Freeze Shock and eggmon Glaceon with ice zone
thick stump
5/5 exr ss n gaming
vagrant ivy
ghetsis probably does 600k or something
who knows he might even be better off doing glaciate DPS
lethal siren
He has double drop
vagrant ivy
but you probably have to sac damage for that
vagrant ivy
just glaciate 6 times 
lethal siren
Which is worst to setup
vagrant ivy
true
still hearth
Dang i don’t have DC Silver as well 😭
vapid kernel
what about BP Barry and an ex support unit?
still hearth
Skyla or Melony?
crude sandal
Any calcs for SS Silver?
brave parcel
(New player just trying to get tickets) whats a good option for a third teammate here?
Hilbert is a placeholder*
drifting mesa
Hey guys could i get some help on this flying damage challenge?
I'm using a team of NC blue and rosa amd lodge skyla
All EXed
But i can only reach 500K while i see people reaching 1 million
vagrant ivy
the idea is to spark once, then spam sing
lodge skyla needs regular TM mpr to sustain SEUN
sync with both supports before mid
drifting mesa
But without the speed buffs sing will not be able to spammable no?
vagrant ivy
use sonia tm once to max out attack
if you really are running out potion once
sonia has catalyzing recovery on potion
but I had no issues with gauge with this team tho
drifting mesa
Ok i'll try this team then, what lucky skills you had?
brave parcel
(New player just trying to get tickets) whats a good option for a third teammate...
Okay nvm just checked the f2p clears and I cant make any of those teams
Gonna try getting 100k and leave it there
vagrant ivy
Ok i'll try this team then, what lucky skills you had?
super powered 3 on skyla
what you have on the other two matters little
I wouldn’t get defense crush on sonia to fish for extra drops, it’s too rng heavy
drifting mesa
(New player just trying to get tickets) whats a good option for a third teammate...
Do you have any defense debuffer to seap for ss hilbert?
Ok got it thanks a lot man i'll gibe this composition a try
fluid anvil
if no one beats Skylas 5,5M score - these are the final 3v3 high scores for the first DC rotation
(except Psychic - I didnt have any higher screenshot than this .. their high score was ~3,8M or so supposedly)
lusty galleon
not like it matters, she will be dethroned this rotation haha
royal jolt
I have him EXd, what you want to try
just to see if he can reach 1M with any team
by "with any team," I mean at all, lol
lusty galleon
I think he can with double agressive
like, NC Nate+Bianca provide good damage scaling
even more as he is Unovan too
royal jolt
I see
lusty galleon
let's see
he can reach ~700K with Melony + NC Blue
the biggest issue is landing all crits lol
royal jolt
yikes
calm anvil
best flying type for this
royal jolt
not the best, but certainly not the worst
though, that's like with the best support, lmao
thick stump
if no one beats Skylas 5,5M score - these are the final 3v3 high scores for the ...
crazy how we dont have any aoe grass nuker better than red
vapid kernel
if no one beats Skylas 5,5M score - these are the final 3v3 high scores for the ...
Gloria being an ancient unit > thts amazing shes there
true locust
Yeap she did nice gloria in dc
She is pokefair so she get some bonus from next updates so she will do more
But rose get it too so hard tell maybe he do more
crude sandal
With Hasty Hail on Melony, is NC Blue or Redlax better?
dense gate
I’m satisfied with this. I was debating investing into Glorialt, but I would need to double candy her to get to 3/5
crude sandal
Glorialt will be good for your flying/fighting/fire roster (even if she is purely fire)
dense gate
She is particularly good in ST Flying. Her Support EXR and rebuff are also pretty good for Fighting and Fire
still hearth
Do yall think I can get a high score with this?
crude sandal
High score you mean score 1M? Definitely
dense gate
It would score high, but you probably don’t want to pair Melony and BP Barry together if you have other Support EX options
crude sandal
Yeah, Barry is easily the most replaceable there
still hearth
Here’s all my EX Supports
crude sandal
I guess the only one who'll see use in this mode judging by your roster is Sonia
still hearth
I see, is there any other supports I should EX for DC? I know Elio is one of them and i am planning on Exing
still hearth
Ohh
crude sandal
Elio is only if you have someone to do another status
Same case with Melony
Elio is slower because he can frequently trigger Propelling Move with Sing
dense gate
Melony is generally better as a Sing spammer. Elio’s Propelling Move passive is slower but could have a niche here since it’s not as slow as BP Barry and keeps gauge up for Blue’s Sync Power Flux
crude sandal
I literally just mentioned that 
still hearth
Do yall think I can get a high score with this?
Ok so I got 588k with this, I feel like I should change up Blues grid a bit and give his TM Mpr
dense gate
You can grab Blue’s TM MPR. Make sure you’re also tanking with Blue to fish for misses
fallen trail
for st ice what if we just chose champion red and permafroze 
vernal condor
too slow
dense gate
Is it worth EX + EX Role for 1/5 SS Silver for ST Ice? I EX’d 5/5 Hala for 3v1 Ice and idk if 1/5 SS Silver would make much of a difference for ST
royal jolt
Blue is great
lusty galleon
for st ice what if we just chose champion red and permafroze <:LucasFLOOSHED:778...
B Moves are too slow to execute
still hearth
Blue is great
I still can’t get to 1M with him 😞
royal jolt
Should be my last clear before single Ice
dense gate
Is it worth EX + EX Role for 1/5 SS Silver for ST Ice? I EX’d 5/5 Hala for 3v1 I...
I think I’ll bite the bullet and EX SS Silver
After ST Ice, do we know if the stages will repeat in the same order?
dense gate
Gotcha. Hopefully we get early datamine this time
dense gate
Probably. I’m hoping for the 25th since the last event this month is on the 24th
true locust
Maybe 🙂 depend if 28 will be new unit or from 30
vapid kernel
Should be my last clear before single Ice
https://youtu.be/GUXeIubbExE?si=M7jwy...
Lvl 1 Silver dying
royal jolt
Lvl 1 Silver dying
unborn otter
What’s a good grid and team for 3/5 exr 6e anni skyla?
unborn otter
Got better score without interference sync
Can you post grids?
versed shale
No one documented a SuLiza clear? Smh my head
sacred badger
No one documented a SuLiza clear? Smh my head
i only managed to get her to 600k ;-;
misty forge
No one documented a SuLiza clear? Smh my head
Maybe whenever this mode rewards doing different clears I'll actually record my 1+ mil clears with shittier units but rn there's no reason
misty forge
i only managed to get her to 600k ;-;
I got to 920k
versed shale
What were y’all using?
misty forge
Actually nvm
sacred badger
Lodge Skyla is cracked.
misty forge
1.070k
sacred badger
the .3m is from her 9 PMUN Brave Bird.
misty forge
What were y’all using?
Uhhh I used colress + NC blue iirc
versed shale
i’ll steal that
unborn otter
Was there a video and grids of 3/5 exr 6e anni skyla nc blue and melony
misty forge
<:ShauntalNote:746601750987014215> i’ll steal that
Actually I think it was not NC blue, but IDR who exactly
versed shale
Actually I think it was not NC blue, but IDR who exactly
redlax maybe?
sacred badger
i got blue to 800k tbh.
versed shale
There really aren’t many supports it could be
Esp if you’ve already got the status fail users
misty forge
Well might've been NC Rosa actually
versed shale
but that’d mean no ex support (unless you didn’t sing spam?)
misty forge
I didn't sing spam iirc
I just used TM after sync to give extra PMUN
And kept twaving
teal harness
I think oleana + ghetsis can do the job with melony/nc rosa for sing spam
royal jolt
LEVEL 1 SILVER IS SO CRACKED
unborn otter
Hey, can you post your anni skyla grid
versed shale
I’m definitely doing something wrong, I wasn’t close to another sync
I’m also nowhere close to having the motivation to try again 
sacred badger
iirc need sing spam + colress thunder wave. also probably not stack pmuns tbh.
just max her stats and that's it.
versed shale
I just used TM after sync to give extra PMUN
They used this for their 1M+ clear
dusty solar
Hey, can you post your anni skyla grid
unborn otter
Ketuban scored 3.5m ish without interference sync
dusty solar
What’s the tm mpr for?
unchaged from single target dc
teal harness
this super sparring looks awful, Im ok for single rock and maybe triple ghost, but I dont have anything for single fire
hollow whale
Single rock got that godawful no status rule lol
I’m banking entirely on ghost here
sacred badger
i think i'm okay for upcoming super sparring.
teal harness
Single rock got that godawful no status rule lol
oof
my single rock character is ss diantha
unborn otter
How do i utilize interference sync with anni skyla
teal harness
How do i utilize interference sync with anni skyla
without anyone else applying the effect? she has staggering 1 for air cutter on her grid for flinches
unborn otter
I mean when to air cutter
teal harness
I mean when to air cutter
it should be your last move b4 the sync
hollow whale
Pray it procs lol
teal harness
and you dont use any moves b4 clicking the sync move to avoid the flinching expire b4 she syncs
but trapping is the best one for that multiplier
unborn otter
Had gobsmack and flinch on and no inter for first sync and second sync had inter on but two no crits and third sync had confusion and 3 crits
spiral halo
<:HilbertHmm:625860604347023360> I’m definitely doing something wrong, I wasn’t ...
I copied Mael's team: Redlax, Colress, and Summer Liza. I missed sync crits so many times but SEUN every sync really helped to barely reach 1M 
yep barely and unoptimized grid. Same grid with what I used against Noland EBE
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its lugia, but you'll have to bring a rain dancer to the fight
if you could bring ss kris, that would be awesome, then you could bring redlax for 3rd member
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yes
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maybe you can replace redlax with bp barry, you'll do less dmg since you'll miss SE next, but you got a support sprint already with ss kris, and you do want rain for ethan
but Im sure you'll get 1mil
cloud timber
if that doesn't work i'd try redlax + elio or nc rosa and you won't need to grid shower power
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cloud timber
it's also not required to make use of interference sync but it can be better to deal with trap
thin wren
I am gonna see how much I can get with ghetsis chase and grusha
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cloud timber
barry wants team pinpoint entry bc accuracy matters
faster to win the accuracy check even on a failed move like stun spore on para
devout pelican
Trust in Blue to smell you later
When NC Cheren has issue getting 1m without cake 
Or maybe I just suck
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cloud timber
i think stats are better here esp since i don't think rain will end up being the best call
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still hearth
Hmmm… I think 698k currently with blue, I feel like I can get higher if I get lucky with evasion and mpr
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cloud timber
not worth
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icy pendant
definitely not
you're better gambling the crit then gambling the accel that still isn't worth
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devout pelican
Hmmm… I think 698k currently with blue, I feel like I can get higher if I get lu...
If you are using BP Barry and DC Silver, use one less Air Cutter. Should buy you more time to get to last sync
still hearth
If you are using BP Barry and DC Silver, use one less Air Cutter. Should buy you...
Wish I had DC Silver, unfortunately no I’m running him with BP Barry and Melony
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cloud timber
ss kris tms are quite slow, elio would buff to +6 most efficiently
but idk how the crit buffing works
not having ss ethan and all
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cloud timber
well elio + redlax would cover crit buffs
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long silo
This is an extremely shot in the dark and the answer is probably no but do you hav 4/5 Dahlia
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long silo
Okay hmmm how high is your score atm
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long silo
Although I guess judging from the combo you are one para off getting that 3rd- hmmm okay
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long silo
Wish you luck 🙏
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cloud timber
para multiple with barry is bad and loses time
i would believe para one side is better than para center bc sides have way more speed but they do move less often so less chances for para procs
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long silo
But hey you made it, congrats!
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crude sandal
Wut best F2P for later? BP Barry/Eggmon Glaceon/Ghetsis?
glacial robin
Wut best F2P for later? BP Barry/Eggmon Glaceon/Ghetsis?
Possibly
crude sandal
Or maybe use Ghetsis for para and use Melony for spam
Actually, Ghetsis might score 1M with SC Steven because Ghetsis's multipliers are speed and attack drops, and SC Steven does both at once
cloud timber
Or maybe use Ghetsis for para and use Melony for spam
no gauge
cloud timber
for f2p, sc steven ehhhh idk
crude sandal
F2P might require BP Barry instead
cloud timber
elio would be alright
crude sandal
I guess
cloud timber
can grab all of this and not need ramp up though working off 30% para would suck for some people
but i do think he wants a bit more setup help than glaceon, to not deal with 6 95% acc glaciates to max his innate
rose basalt
ice single this reset right
long silo
Yes
hollow wadi
Any gen pool/f2p units that are useable for ice ST?
I don’t have the ghestis power up or id use him
cloud timber
base candice or hala
devout pelican
Hala should be good enough
cloud timber
wondering how viable darach is as a ghetsis enabler for slow mo 9 on feather dance
no need for double drop, just have to land 3 glaciates to max out mults
long silo
Ghetsis can para right
crude sandal
It's either 30% base or 60% with HE1
long silo
Ghetsis/Darach/Elio is a potential
Ranked DC soon huh
Think my potential EX candidate is Lenora, but I'll hold off in case her Support EX is is not too much needed and Dahlia can work as debuffer for Cynthia
craggy pond
trying to replicate the 4m cheren clear - at this point where im supposed to have 3.5 mil i only have 2.8 mil about
which is way too much variance to be a damage roll think i think???
copied the grid and moves almost exactly i thought
i have superpowered 3
long silo
I have the same moment with N. Leaf
craggy pond
cheren does guaranteed crit too
long silo
Only difference is mine having 140/CS2 as opposed to 150/SP3 and somehow my score is 2.6m and the SP3 run is 4.1m
long silo
It's really weird
cloud timber
gear does make a difference
long silo
I need some gear luck like that
cloud timber
you're probably not doing everything exactly the same as them with gear so i don't think it's just luck
cloud timber
on your gear investment
lusty galleon
trying to replicate the 4m cheren clear - at this point where im supposed to hav...
check on this part...
lusty galleon
1,115,294 increased to 1,483,342 (368,048)
1,522,572 increased to 2,025,021 (502...
here
sullen zephyr
Ice ST incoming
normal parcel
you're probably not doing everything exactly the same as them with gear so i don...
I mean if is doing the same things in the video, same debuffs, same buffs, same number of syncs, then is either, skill gears (and or unit investment) or just wrong grid
cloud timber
that line was intended as direct reference to gear investment and nothing else
vapid kernel
Lorelei day arrived
crude sandal
true locust
So who is the best silver ?
cunning rock
Probably Silver because his Tech condition is just Speed drops while Irida needs to deal with Hail chip.
long silo
Is it that bad even in ST
nova remnant
Oh right hail chip
royal jolt
Silver missed all but one crit
alright
nova remnant
Soften up 5/5 lul 
royal jolt
me with 3/5
crude sandal
How long does Irida's zone and hail last again with her extensions?
copper otter
cunning rock
Dang it so close
royal jolt
cloud timber
yeah i think i'll 5/5 hilbert
missed second last crit but got an important para proc
plain surge
Oh 580k on Ghetsis
What does Chop contribute there if I may ask?
cloud timber
-3 speed on b move along with -3 spdef
plain surge
Oh I see
cloud timber
so enabling his innate which is the equivalent of cakewalk
plain surge
Sadly I dont have that kind of enabler yet
crude sandal
Sure I guess
cloud timber
i was thinking darach would be decent for an f2p option
means you won't have to grid double drop but you do have to land 3 glaciates
crude sandal
Ah well, Irida ain't the best option here
crude sandal
It's SS Silver I suppose
royal jolt
plain surge
means you won't have to grid double drop but you do have to land 3 glaciates
I think speed drop is easy since I can use Kukui's Rock Tomb for -2 per pop
But it will be at the cost of no sp def drop
cloud timber
yeah there's no other good way to fit in spdef drops so don't worry about that
plain surge
If only DC Gary have charging infliction on thunder wave
lusty galleon
Gary... that's a rare thing to read haha
plain surge
Oh right, he is named Blue here
lusty galleon
yeah aha
crude sandal
Anyone tried Fall Shauntal yet?
hybrid lagoon
Can you show ssN's grid
lusty galleon
I'm going to change it and try other one
crude sandal
I guess SS Silver is really better because he's 3 roles at once
Sprint/Tech/Support
cunning rock
There we go
nova remnant
I don't feel like doing with SS Silver atm lol
nova remnant
Sure I guess
SP3?
crude sandal
I'm not sure if Irida can get 1 more sync if I used her Ice Wish properly
crude sandal
NC Red?
Irida?
Who we picking
Why we picking
It's Weavile
sacred badger
2 ex support and 5 syncs with nc red.
rapid sparrow
It's Weavile
Screw that
What's 2nd best option
crude sandal
Screw that
What's 2nd best option
Either of who you said
rapid sparrow
2 ex support and 5 syncs with nc red.
This looks like it for me
normal parcel
Is SS N among the best options?
crude sandal
Oh crap, I realized Irida only had +80 Sp. Atk. from bandanna only
normal parcel
Or his setup is too slow?
cloud timber
nova remnant
I'm not sure if Irida can get 1 more sync if I used her Ice Wish properly
Without para having both extension can last for 3 syncs I believe?
You gotta need rng for that extra 5 seconds
rapid sparrow
Is SS N among the best options?
My knowledge of that thing is limited
cloud timber
no super freebie on that one, needed +2 energy more for it
prob going to +10e ss hilbert at one point anyway
normal parcel
N can para, but needs attack drops
hybrid lagoon
N has sync cd after using freeze shock right
normal parcel
Yes
normal parcel
Yes but I think is b move is quite slow