#Damage Challenge

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vernal condor
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ErM sO lAggY

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(I'm sure if you edit it to be x2 Speed it plays nicely)

normal parcel
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Even with charging sun 2 still had a bit of gauge issue in the last seconds

unborn otter
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Is ss erika nc blue melony better than ss erika 3/5 dahlia and 2/5 sc steven?

fallen trail
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5 lyra syncs… and of course the last one didnt crit

vernal condor
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Rip

fallen trail
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if all 5 crit i get a mil

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annoying

vernal condor
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A crit isnt getting you 300k tho right? RosaThink

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Compared to shibi's clear

fallen trail
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ehh probably not?

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might be skill gear diff

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we’ll see ig

vernal condor
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Maybe

copper otter
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so NC Blue/Melony would be better imo

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regardless, both will be hell either way

fallen trail
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society if ss lyra had interference sync or even soften up

copper otter
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I appreciate that SS Erika has an innate Crit on her sync

rose basalt
vernal condor
unique abyss
vernal condor
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You wouldnt be able to use it

thick stump
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why not lol

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she has flinch trap and confusion

vernal condor
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Because trap and confusion are so slow

thick stump
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oh tru

vernal condor
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It's already hard to get all her syncs in

thick stump
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the obvious solution is get chase to 5/5 for staggering

fallen trail
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alrighty

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that works

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this wouldnt have worked without chase lol glad i got him from mix pity now

vernal condor
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Chase is great for DC

vapid kernel
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With 3/5 chase theN SS lyra goes up to 1.3M

fallen trail
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mm

long silo
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No it's sync rush

royal jolt
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Idk chat, I think this might be another DC where I fail to reach 1M

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This is the best I've gotten. And I haven't been able to replicate it

copper otter
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oh wait.... i just realized. 1/5s

royal jolt
grave halo
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What's the best Adaman team here

teal haven
fallen trail
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thinking about it grass kinda went from one of the strongest types to one of the weaker types in the span of a year

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just bc every other type has gotten busted exr damage units

royal jolt
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Grass is deceptively weak

vernal condor
royal jolt
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I thought I'd be fine with SS Erika until I saw her Atk. stat

vernal condor
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Sorry, an atk stat isn't something she has MinaBreak

royal jolt
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😭

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How does DAWN have a higher Atk. stat????????

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I love Erika, but this is not it 🥹

lusty galleon
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Dawn has that innate multiplier

royal jolt
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that, too

lusty galleon
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wonder how far she can get lol

royal jolt
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I'd try her, but I haven't figured out how to max her attack

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Arc Steven comes to mind, but I'd need a way to spam for countdown

lusty galleon
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problem is pecking order requires to lower the enemy attack haha

royal jolt
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that as well

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can't exactly bring those two things together with the units I have

woven fjord
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OK, it does seem like SS Erika struggles with the stage. I could only get 835K on it.

feral hamlet
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Wait, is this a new DC?

vapid kernel
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So how do u rush sync here

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Wait nvm i found thr vid leme watch

fallen trail
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so yeah

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new single target dc every tuesday

vapid kernel
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Omg that clear is crazy Yukure

feral hamlet
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What was the previous one?

vapid kernel
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And i forgot Dhalia has teeter spam

royal jolt
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that's how I managed my 900k with SS Erika

fallen trail
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next is flying mt, the last mt stage

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then ice st, the last st stage

feral hamlet
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Oh phew, thought I missed one

fallen trail
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then dc ends and we can never get tickets again TabithaHehe

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im kidding it rotates back

rose basalt
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flying triple

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nc cheren again

fallen trail
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i might be cooked

rose basalt
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and ice single prob (forgot the pearl clan girls name)

fallen trail
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i have a 1/5 exr ss ethan

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he has innate brainpower and sure crit

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maybe…

vernal condor
fallen trail
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normal dc pair is so funny

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dc pair you can’t use in dc

vernal condor
fallen trail
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hop and dubwool Hopium

vapid kernel
vapid kernel
fallen trail
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normal field

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normal zone on entry

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whos excited !?

vernal condor
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literally no one bcs zone on entry sucks

royal jolt
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that's my main grudge against the DC Zone pairs
all of them are on entry. That's your set-up time 😭

still hearth
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Flying triple.. Holiday Rosa can do this

delicate junco
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I wonder if anyone has done a Ramos clear

cloud timber
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serena but no ex

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maybe 300k

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is it like only one grid mult and it’s sleep or is there more

vernal condor
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and worse setup and multipliers

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bro is terrible

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(actually he got better mults, but the setup is awful)

delicate junco
royal jolt
scenic grotto
cloud timber
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i've been wondering how effective bp lusamine leaf storm spam could be

vapid kernel
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Thats abysmally low score

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Its worse than Misty in Water single target

cloud timber
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bullying again smh

vapid kernel
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If im bullying ss erika, yes

royal jolt
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Well, now that my SS N is 3/5, my tech candies can go do Dahlia or something

teal haven
scenic grotto
teal haven
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I just like Erika and leafeon

scenic grotto
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My mentality: why spend 20 tickets only for extra DC tickets?

scenic grotto
teal haven
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The correct way to play

scenic grotto
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The best kind of correct

delicate junco
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What...happened here?

scenic grotto
delicate junco
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does Ex give it a sync boost?

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it shouldnt matter since she isnt tech right?

scenic grotto
delicate junco
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My only grass tech is SS Leaf but i wasnt confient in her sync nuking ability at 4/5

scenic grotto
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That is unfortunate

copper otter
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Striker EXs doesn't increase sync power, only converting it to AOE.

scenic grotto
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Indeed
Apologies if adding “it’s not EX’d” confused anyone

teal haven
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Biggest downside vs Erika is no SEUN and lack of sync boosts

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Also requires poisoning

vernal orbit
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This one really made me appreciate units with soften up

misty forge
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Yeah I got 600k with my 5/5 10E ssleaf

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Sadly can't really get more

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Poison and no self setup + a cd TM you can't use...sucks for DC

vernal orbit
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She does better than erika?

misty forge
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Erika gets up to 1mil

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Ssleaf with insane RNG maybe 650k

teal haven
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Has anybody done mallow?

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~400atk with a few sync boosts

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But needs sun and someone to boost her atk

copper otter
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Mallow needs confusion

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As well as atk drops

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A bit difficult to set up when you also need GT and a way to sync rush

cloud timber
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oh i got this last night with +6E

normal parcel
teal haven
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Is there a physical rough eqv to NC blue when it comes to DC support?

cloud timber
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nope

teal haven
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Damn

cloud timber
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closest is hilbert

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arc steven exists but is worse

normal parcel
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But Hilbert doesn't paralyze

cloud timber
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closest as in most efficient attack buffer, sonia is closest if you're looking for para

teal haven
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Oh and she gives MGA with potion...

vernal orbit
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Elio is alright at buffing atk if you don't mind resetting and you have another form of crit buffing

cloud timber
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mallow and ramos can spam on their own, just 2 bar

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so they can afford hilbert and not rely on charging infliction potentially

teal haven
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Ramos needs sleep for his sync boost tho

vernal condor
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ramos isnt doing shit here lol

normal parcel
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Sonia is quite decent

icy pendant
normal parcel
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She can paralyze and can max atk and CRIT with mpr

vernal orbit
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I really like classic elesa for single target

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She's nice for characters that have power play

normal parcel
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But there isn't a physical version of NC blue, outside of DC arc Steven is basically physical NC blue, but in DC is much worse

vapid kernel
copper otter
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Sc steven is the only real Physical DC Unit. Problem is he can't para.

normal parcel
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Remember when physical units where considered superior in DC because of SC Steven and colress

vernal condor
vernal orbit
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I still prefer physical dc tbh since it's easier to debuff def

copper otter
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I don't remember that imo, but i do remember people sauing colress and Barry were the meta

normal parcel
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I mean spdef debuffs are much harder to get than def debuffs, but generally that aren't worth it if you can just sync more by not going for them

delicate junco
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I used the full nuke set for good measure too

normal parcel
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What's the best team so far?

delicate junco
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And i have exr morty so sun stayed up

cloud timber
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best team i know of is adaman/redlax/melony, batman scored higher but had much better gear i think

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and then adam's at 2.6m which idk

vernal orbit
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It's honestly pretty good tho KermitNodSlow

lusty galleon
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1/5 Dahlia, good

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I'm still trying to see what I can use lol

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I could copy yours as I do have SCteven at 2/5

vernal orbit
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What grass techs do you have

civic island
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Joining a bit late but here my run

vapid kernel
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Nice

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Adaman scores getting higher

fallen trail
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if adaman got sprint exr which i think is likely could he squeeze one more sync in?

royal jolt
stoic crest
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What is the best option here? I have stuff like champion blue and red lax

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Please ping me

crude sandal
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Only SS Erika

lusty galleon
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you can see down there a 3/5 EX Adaman lol

crude sandal
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Oh lol

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I didn't scroll because I thought that was it.

stoic crest
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So adaman?

crude sandal
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He's literally the predicted best nuket

stoic crest
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What should I run him with?

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And what grid?

crude sandal
cloud timber
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this with standard redlax grid and melony with ft1/ft2 and standard grid

icy pendant
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fast track

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ft1 is preferred since it procs less often

stoic crest
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What cookie? I don't have purple

icy pendant
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bronze/silver pink

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bronzes are the only ones that give ft1, silvers have a small chance at ft2 only

stoic crest
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Who gets fast track?

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Melody and red?

icy pendant
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melony only

dense gate
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I think I will have to settle with this. I guess it’s not bad for a striker and I don’t have the resources to EX SS Erika

stoic crest
# cloud timber https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS8TAz73YCQ

So let me get this straight:
Melody: sing nothing else
Red lax: body slam to paralyze and then just sit there until both supports sync. Then use tm to speed up adaman sync
Adaman: use synthesis to burn a turn, use the b move, use tm, then b move again

cloud timber
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redlax tm doesn't help for speeding up syncs, just there for seun and helps give time for gauge to recover

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but yes

stoic crest
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Oh I thought it decreased the countdown

cloud timber
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it does but it's faster to use sing if you only cared about getting the sync

icy pendant
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it does but it's slower than clicking sing twice

cloud timber
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so it's more there for power than for speed

crude sandal
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Also Group Morale 4 can trigger

stoic crest
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Ah that makes sense

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Is this the grid I want for red lax?

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Or something else?

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Please ping me

cloud timber
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missing hostile environment which is essential

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so that gets tm mpr, hostile environment, adr, and speed tiles

stoic crest
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That explains it, thank you!

copper fulcrum
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Any 1M clear with Celebi and no Chase? or is she doomed because of grassy terrain healing?

crude sandal
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She's not doomed, but she has Power Play as a sync multiplier

copper fulcrum
long silo
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Someone used Oleana

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Still with Chase tho

fallen trail
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that clear above has elio and c elesa

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same idea as chase + ss cyrus, paralyze and sleep spam with hella debuffs

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elesa gets them to -18 after 4 moves, idk who else can debuff that fast

lethal siren
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Wish I had gotten one more seup

crude sandal
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I wonder what TM Bianca uses when this next DC comes

cloud timber
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x speed

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only on single ice do we finally get something that isn't x speed

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x def

stoic crest
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@cloud timber do I want this or cs2 on adaman?

lethal siren
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Ig this one

cloud timber
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cs2 is preferable bc the first sync isn't under sun

stoic crest
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Thank you!

sacred badger
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flying multi soon ;x

fossil igloo
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Just wanted to test this team to see how it would work. SS Acerola slows everything down.

fossil igloo
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Also, I just felt like testing Larry for this run.

thin wren
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has anyone beached 2 mil yet

thin wren
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instead of bp barry

cloud timber
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you could open the lb but yea adam trope batman have

fossil igloo
thin wren
thin wren
sullen zephyr
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f2p ss erika 1M yet?

royal jolt
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N o

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Any 1M run with her uses Dahlia

copper otter
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incorrect.

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there is a F2P SS Erika, but it requires Skill gears and Max investment of SS erika with Melony and Sonia

royal jolt
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Oh

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Nvm. I stand corrected

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I don't see it on the doc

cloud timber
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yeah i haven't seen it anywhere

copper otter
royal jolt
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Ah

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I'm not gonna drive myself insane by trying to roll it. I've got no feathers, anyway

crude sandal
crude sandal
royal jolt
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I mean, I couldn't get to 1M with them 😭

So, maybe the trick is to get para procs? Did you even find yourself relying on them?

crude sandal
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I honestly didn't care

royal jolt
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Ok
I'll give it another go eventually

crude sandal
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Gonna wait for 2 more days

royal jolt
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Lmao

crude sandal
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Let's see if Tornadus is better than Tornadus

normal parcel
cloud timber
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yeah and you don't want that

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in a world of practicality you need it

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would be different if redlax specifically had better stuff to grid

normal parcel
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Is. more that is really nice to have, but definitely not mandatory (1/5)

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I mean if you have access to it, just pick it

cloud timber
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oh yeah 1/5 can still make do without

normal parcel
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If you don't, it is still viable (annoying but viable)

cloud timber
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you aren't required to candy for it

normal parcel
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How much RNG requires a 2m run?

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With Rosa I got 1.65m but with just 1 support ex and without enfeeble in favor of speeding sun 2

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But Rosa with speeding sun 2 was a bit tight with gauges, can ft meloniy keep up without speeding sun?

cunning rock
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Meanwhile, I'm gonna see how well 1/5 Fall Shauntal enables Power Play SS Lyra

cloud timber
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no speeding sun needed

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i think you need good gear bonuses

royal jolt
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Chat

crude sandal
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Oh?

royal jolt
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Very close

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1 flinch, 2 para procs

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I must've rolled low

crude sandal
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You got 2 para procs but not the same score as me? RosaThink

royal jolt
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I'll see what I can do for gear. I haven't got many feathers left, but I'm sure I'll think of something

crude sandal
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The only multiplier on my skill gear is Physical S-Moves Up 2%

royal jolt
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I've got none, just +100 on Atk.

crude sandal
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And I also have +100 Atk. too

royal jolt
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I have a Solar Flare 4%, but it'd give me +95 Atk.

crude sandal
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It's still better

old valve
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Forgot to do this sooner

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I'd probably want to go with Adaman, right? For the rebuff and all that?

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Or does him being 1/5 make Erika outclass him somehow?

thin wren
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ss erika is probably better than 1/5 adaman

old valve
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I have SS Acerola too if that changes anything

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1/5 EX

royal jolt
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Every time, I get so close
I'm ONE move away from another sync

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Would it kill Nemona to miss a few moves??? 🫠

old valve
royal jolt
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haha

old valve
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This a good grid for Erika or am I missing something less immediately apparent as important

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Oh yeah one more thing

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Does Solar Propulsion only work on Pokémon moves or does it apply to Trainer moves too

royal jolt
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It applies to trainer moves, too

old valve
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Dang

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Thought I could get out of that one lol

royal jolt
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You weren't thinking of relying on it, were you?

old valve
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I wouldn't say relying on it

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But I might as well get at least, like, one of 'em early in if I can, right?

cloud timber
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i'm not sure about best ss erika grid but that one has tiles on defensive stats that can go to solar blade power

old valve
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Oh right I'll want to throw one of those in at the end won't I

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Good shout

old valve
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Oh shit

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Is this a certified NC Rosa Moment™️

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I recently 3/5'd mine so 👁️

old valve
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Siiiick

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...It really is pretty convenient that people can make thumbnails with mostly just sync move animations and they still look good, huh

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Never thought about it before now lol

royal jolt
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I thought it looked good and gave the info you'd want:
Units
Score

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My first-time run thumbnails don't really have that look, but it's whatever ^^

long silo
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I do not photo edit so I just screenshot whatever good is from the vid itself lol

royal jolt
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I know a lot of players just use the auto-generated thumbnail

I just like to have stuff look nice :)

long silo
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@thin wren can I see your OG Lear skill gears?

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I want a visual reference of what to aim for

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I know you said 35% sync but I just want to see lol

true locust
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Lear whit snatch use 3 times may be not the best set him it alot time: efforts

long silo
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Oh I just need to see the gear lol

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I just want reference in general

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Not necessarily for DC, but I know Doom prepared for Lear so I chose to ask here

thin wren
vernal condor
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Opp Paralyzed 45% SerenaSip

long silo
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Oh you have different gears for other modes? But yes I want to see what your DC gear looks like

thin wren
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give me a minute, also iirc I said 27%. 35% is what I am aiming for

long silo
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Oh okay

thin wren
long silo
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Also what feathers did you use

thin wren
thin wren
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wait, the bandanna numbers don't show. The red one is 5% and the other is 9%

long silo
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Thank you

vapid kernel
long silo
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I'll look at those purple ones

royal jolt
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Ayyy, both of my runs are up

true locust
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I was think befor but its not it

thin wren
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I will be trying chase

true locust
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You need have status condition not them l

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Lol

long silo
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He meant it should be Opp Status instead on the gear

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Ye

thin wren
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ohhh

true locust
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For you is 7%

misty forge
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Yep

true locust
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Just gear boost sync

thin wren
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Time to grind gears again

long silo
misty forge
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Need "Opp" at start

long silo
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Like that bracelet

true locust
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Opp or type moves

thin wren
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guh

true locust
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Or special itc

misty forge
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Or critastrophe

true locust
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Its only 3 for it

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Or crit or terrain itc

misty forge
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Ye

true locust
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Boost sync / moves

misty forge
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Crit > type > wtz> condition

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Imo

thin wren
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or unscathed but that's a bit weird to maintain

misty forge
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In general

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For DC status cond/para better

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But like

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Who cares

true locust
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Unscathed is pointles

long silo
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Anyways I want to improve my fighting gears so I asked

misty forge
true locust
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Need flinch or sleep perma

thin wren
true locust
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Its why its pointless get it

misty forge
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It's shit in every mode

thin wren
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Time to spend all my rally points on feathers

true locust
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I was think similar like you

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Since its same haha🤣

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Now i got why i score soo low vs others now make sens

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Good next rotation i fix it🤣

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So can easy get more score then befor

misty forge
thin wren
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that explains why my early psychic st score was only 1.5 mil

true locust
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Look like same but need read

thin wren
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reading is hard.

true locust
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But now some make sens since my hop in ranked was para and score more then

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Now all make sens🤣

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Since this goat use body slam wat can para you

long silo
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Obligatory

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+reading

long silo
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But yes time to grind for my own gears too

true locust
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But its good since now in back rotation have something to do😏

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Improve my score

acoustic chasm
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Dawn run just for fun DawnNom

thin wren
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wtf.

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is that the highest st support score ever.

acoustic chasm
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How much did NC Blue get in electric?

long silo
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1m but that's AoE

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Idk if anyone tried during ST

acoustic chasm
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Dawn has innate and a +100% from grid
I wish they give her tech EXR lol

misty forge
acoustic chasm
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In 2030 when they start powerboosting spotlights via EXR

thin wren
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it would have been funny if nc blue also had innate

cloud timber
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blue should have been able to get about 700k but i didn't bother redoing the same thing

misty forge
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But yeah with -2 rebuff he can make up

cloud timber
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like there's this from testing but melony would have been a lot better

misty forge
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Fun fact

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If misty gets ex

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Her sync can hit harder than dawn

vernal condor
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That's just false PetrelWTF Both have an innate and a mult in grid but Dawn has a higher Attack stat

acoustic chasm
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Dawn also has a +30 atk node on grid bc why not SophoKEK

cloud timber
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oh yeah and nc blue got 1.5m on 3v3 with adr not 1m

misty forge
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Rip

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Still close tho

normal parcel
copper otter
fossil igloo
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Improvement was made.

brave parcel
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Should this team be able to beat r1 bruno

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@2500 ish points

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Im at 2700 cuz i picked up no wtz

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This is the wrong channel mb 😶

lethal siren
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How much can mix red do in single target?

copper otter
vernal condor
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Someone did 1m but it was a crazy team and prob skill gears

lethal siren
copper otter
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Do share maelmc?

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Curious to see

vernal condor
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it's in this channel

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you have the same info as me

lethal siren
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How do challenge sheet work
I can't see any videos in it

vernal orbit
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The videos aren't in the sheet, the sheet has links that lead to the videos

long silo
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Hello. I'm the 1m Mix Red person

vernal condor
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submit to the sheet SerenaSip

long silo
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Already there lol

vernal condor
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oh yeah i forgor

copper otter
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Oh that's not that crazy lol

lethal siren
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I click on them , they just bring me back to the same page

vernal orbit
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Are you clicking these?

lethal siren
long silo
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For the gear

lethal siren
vernal condor
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what

lethal siren
vernal orbit
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Outside of adaman she's the only one that gives grass rebuff I'm fairly sure so no

vernal condor
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and she can spam

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adaman cant

vernal orbit
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You can use a support that gives you seun if you want

vernal condor
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no bcs no supp with seun can spam

vernal orbit
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Ah yeah the other teammate doesn't spam

vernal condor
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dahlia is mandatory for this team to work

vernal orbit
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No substitute then

long silo
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Ye I went Dahlia because -6 SpD, Rebuff, and Spam

royal jolt
vernal orbit
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Same, mael and yukure were just talking here KermitNodSlow

long silo
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Actually I used this team as a test drive for SS Ethan on 3v3 Flying but apparently it has potential for Red SophoKEK

vernal orbit
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Nice teams though jokes aside

vernal condor
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I recognize all of those names TabithaHehe
wdym it's because im the one updating the doc

long silo
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Would probably not cross 2m for him but hey, there's that

vernal condor
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SS Ethan has a chance to be worse than lodge skyla

long silo
vernal orbit
#

What the, even with exr?

copper otter
#

Ss ethan takes too much time imo

long silo
#

Time for me to show the world that my 150 5/5 EXR SP3 SS Ethan to be worse than the lodge unit SophoKEK

copper otter
#

Especially when he needs trapped

long silo
#

Nah he just needs interference

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Hence, Teeter Dance Dahlia

vernal condor
#

Skyla got

  • quick setup (needs an ally for +2 Atk which might be her biggest issue)
  • x2.8 mults
  • SEUN on 1st and 2nd sync
  • +6~8 PMUN final brave bird
long silo
#

I learned of Teeter Dance Spam during 3v3 Fighting when they used it for Rei/Rosa/Bianca

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Initially I was going for Ethan/Dahlia/BP Barry, but with that new info, I can slot in Chase

cursive linden
#

x2.8 Sync Multiplier on a fucking lodge unit is nuts

#

Yet here we are

thin wren
long silo
#

So yes I will submit the only SS Ethan clear (probably) on Friday

#

My actual run will be NC Cheren tho

royal jolt
#

It's a shame he has Shower Power and Interference Sync as multipliers in addition to his Brainpower

cloud timber
#

i think he skips shower power

#

3 isn't great enough to justify running rain

royal jolt
#

I do, too
It's far too out of the way if you wanna spam

vernal condor
#

He skips existing altogether for this

long silo
#

Shower Power + Interference is specifically why Dahlia

#

BUT. If rain is not that worth it, then I can try Chase + NC Rosa

#

Or NC Blue + NC Rosa

vernal condor
long silo
#

Maybe I'll just submit all three to inflate the Ethan count WEEZing

royal jolt
#

Won't Dahlia spam be less effective because of three opponents?

long silo
#

Maelmc would appreciate more entry I suppose lol

vernal condor
#

if you use dahlia you might as well spam with her

long silo
#

She does the spam yes

cloud timber
#

the delay makes maintaining the gauge easier

royal jolt
#

Hm, I see

long silo
#

But yes time for me to submit them and not breach 2m

royal jolt
#

That's C!Cheren territory
I hope

vernal condor
#

CCheren best partner is Pal Serena GladionSip

long silo
#

I'm using him for my actual high- no Pal Serena HildaCry

royal jolt
#

No Pal Serena here, either

#

I tried a test run with the classic C!Blue + C!Rosa and got four C!Cheren syncs, iirc

vernal condor
#

This is the best cheren team Im pretty sure SerenaSip

vernal condor
long silo
#

I'll be doing Ethan compilation so we can all point and laugh

#

Will try different team with him and see

#

I do wonder tho.

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Could the Teeter Spam elevate Anni Skyla

thin wren
#

what's rdc this time

long silo
#

I hope someone tests that (assuming that's the best approach)

#

Mine is just 2/5

copper otter
#

Wondering if NC Cheren needs 3/5 to 1 mil or if 1/5 is more than enough

long silo
#

ST Rock - no status
AoE Ghost - Phys only
St Fire - no rule

vernal condor
copper otter
#

If nc cheren needs 3/5 to 1 mil, probably gonna use Bp Barry/Nc Cheren/ Lodge skyla tbh

long silo
#

1/5 NC Cheren should still get 1m

copper otter
#

So then Colress/NC Bianca/Nc Cheren

cursive linden
thin wren
#

I wonder why did they make ghost aoe phys only

cursive linden
long silo
#

Maybe 3/5 PrycePain

copper otter
cursive linden
#

I have him 3/5 EXR

long silo
#

Need to take advantage of B Move Spam tho

#

Maybe.

thin wren
#

there's a f2p 1 mil comp for st rock@cursive linden

cursive linden
#

I just want to know if he can do 700k with no status

long silo
#

Or at least the B Move needs to be +10 by the very end

cursive linden
#

What's the team comp?

thin wren
royal jolt
thin wren
long silo
#

Do you have SC Steven

copper otter
thin wren
long silo
#

But anyways @cursive linden do you have SC Steven and Oleana

cursive linden
#

I do have SC Steven but not Oleana

long silo
#

Hmmm

cloud timber
#

when burn is only on a single target and it's enabling melony it's better than bp barry/colress still

long silo
#

Maybe Aaron can spam but the lack of outside help for the def buff hurts

normal parcel
#

Oleana needs 5/5 to spam I guess

thin wren
long silo
#

No need actually

#

If partnered with SC Steven

#

Take advantage of his TM animation

normal parcel
#

In reality Gordie doesn't really want burn, is just that burn allows sing spam

long silo
#

I was thinking Samuel can do something like this to brute force 1m on SS Silver

#

If no 2/5 Steven then 700k is still possible

normal parcel
#

5/5 oleana havers will use her in rock weak

#

3/5 don't think can keep with gauge since Gordie is quite slow

#

1/5 definitely can't do anything

#

Maybe Aaron, but don't know if it can keep up with gauge

long silo
#

For Gordie then yes Oleana needs 5/5

normal parcel
#

I guess is either 5/5 oleana or bust

copper otter
#

The fact that 5/5 Oleana is a meta option is such gatekeeping

long silo
#

The result of DeNA countering the status spam WEEZing

vernal condor
#

5/5 Oleana is worse than BP Barry in most situations

#

Bcs Twofer is slow, so you might as well para

#

As slow as charging infliction that is

frail fulcrum
#

Any leon tier strategies that dont involve adaman or 3/5 ss lyra

long silo
#

Wait Twofer is slower? I thought they were more or less the same

long silo
frail fulcrum
#

Ive got 3/5 ss erika, sc rosa, ss leaf

long silo
#

Doc has some of them

vernal condor
#

Twofer and inflictions are the same

#

So you might as well use the pair with paralysis so the opponent attacks less

long silo
#

Ah

frail fulcrum
#

Ive got redlax, ss acerola, sc steven

vernal condor
#

Unless you actually wanna drop stats with Oleana ofc

frail fulcrum
#

Acerola seemed really slow. Grassy terrain slows down actions a lot because of the healing

long silo
#

Unless the gauge can support removing twofer

vernal condor
#

Yeah, just dont use Twofer KarenDAB

long silo
vernal condor
#

I successfully used non twofer Oleana for this DC, but she's gauge heavy

frail fulcrum
#

This is dumb bit how do i check pins on a thread

#

At least on mobile

#

Oh its under settings

vernal condor
#

+pin

long silo
frail fulcrum
#

This one seems like too much effort without adaman

royal jolt
#

So, Sonia, Melony, and SS Erika 1M is possible

But, my runs are falling just a bit short. I may need to +10E my Erika to pick up that +20 Atk.

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Because it's just an RNG fest at this point

I'm finding myself actively relying on para procs and the occasional miss from Play Rough

cunning rock
copper otter
royal jolt
feral hamlet
#

Oh, I guess you need 5*?

cunning rock
feral hamlet
#

As is typical...

cunning rock
#

Woes of being a Tech.

feral hamlet
#

Would I want to use two B moves early, or save the last one for the end?

copper otter
#

you would want to use both B moves to nuke, but if you have SS erika, that might help

crude sandal
vernal condor
#

hell no

#

it's straight up worse

true locust
#

I will use sc steven barry and cheren

#

Or nc blue skyla melony

vernal condor
#

b leer too slow, stun spore charging too slow, seun too slow, the +1 rebuff pretty much gives nothing since it's only 1 opp

true locust
#

B move low speed

crude sandal
#

And SC Steven gives PMUN too

#

For Cheren's multiplier

true locust
#

Yeap

#

No better team then this whit set up cheren we dont have

#

Or skyla just spam melony standart

crude sandal
#

The speed drop will also somewhat compensate for the slow set up too

vernal condor
true locust
#

Yeap plus whit barry is just 4 sync any way

vernal condor
#

You don't need Steven to give PMUN stacks

true locust
#

10 stack

#

For firs sync

crude sandal
#

Steven gives 4 PMUN stacks if he's 3/5 with his TM

true locust
#

Steven can give

vernal condor
#

1st sync is not the most important anyway

true locust
#

All are important for high score

#

But i think skyla will do better

#

Since nc blue set up melony is easy fast

#

And zone - 2 spe def

#

Alot syncs

crude sandal
#

Also, you can run 3x HS with Cheren, Barry and Steven

#

For -3 sync at the start

vernal condor
#

hs1 on cheren is too far

#

not worth, you lose on damage

true locust
#

Yeap

crude sandal
true locust
#

4 sync is max any way

#

Whit barry

crude sandal
#

Grand Entry 2 so that Barry won't need to use his TM and just straight spam

crude sandal
vernal condor
#

Im not using barry

#

im using chase and pal serena

crude sandal
#

Hmmmm ok

vernal condor
#

(well im not using anyone anyway since i dont have cheren)

#

(but i still think it's the best team)

true locust
#

Pal serena low speed aoe?

#

And spam?

vernal condor
#

yes

thin wren
#

yes

vernal condor
#

and is super fast from base

true locust
#

Then why nobody use🧐

crude sandal
#

Skyla has a very annoying multiplier, but it didn't stop Dahlia IG

true locust
#

Nc blue have confusion too

crude sandal
thin wren
crude sandal
#

But that stalls too much time

true locust
#

Use one time

#

And hope its stay too end

crude sandal
#

Cheren sets up 2 PMUN stacks by himself with TM. SC Steven gridding TM: Mighty Command 9 gives 4 PMUN per use, and 2 uses of that immediately maxes out Cheren's PMUN stacks for max sync multiplier right?

#

Ok, I'll admit this:
Anni Skyla might be better than NC Cheren based on my initial calcs

copper otter
#

Any tech with striker EXR will be the best

fluid anvil
#

but they're both Techs with striker EXR RoxanneThis

vernal condor
#

Lady and gents

crude sandal
#

NC Cheren
1st Sync (2 Sync Buffs)

  • -2 Rebuff: 199,680
  • -1 Rebuff: 173,056 * 2
    Total: 545,792

2nd Sync (3 Sync Buffs)

  • -2 Rebuff: 249,600
  • -1 Rebuff: 216,320 * 2
    Total: 682,240

3rd Sync (4 Sync Buffs)

  • -2 Rebuff: 299,520
  • -1 Rebuff: 259,584 * 2
    Total: 818,688

4th Sync (5 Sync Buffs)

  • -2 Rebuff: 349,441
  • -1 Rebuff: 302,848 * 2
    Total: 955,137
    Total Sync Move Damage: 3,001,857

Anni Skyla
1st Sync (4 Sync Buffs): 274,242 * 3 = 822,726
2nd Sync (5 Sync Buffs): 319,950 * 3 = 959,850
3rd Sync (6 Sync Buffs): 365,657 * 3 = 1,096,971
4th Sync (7 Sync Buffs): 411,364 * 3 = 1,234,092
Total Sync Move Damage: 4,113,639

vernal condor
#

I think Cheren should be able to sync 5 times with pal serena and chase GladionSip

crude sandal
#

Cheren's B Move Damage (6 Sync Buffs)

  • -2 Rebuff: 157,642
  • -1 Rebuff: 136,623 * 2
    Total: 430,888
    Final Damage: 3,432,745
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So Anni Skyla wins by virtue of having 2 support EX by her side

#

Now, lemme cope some calcs up if SC Steven had support EXR

primal blade
#

also do u include confusion on all enemy units?

#

if yes do u assume resets until nc blue gets confusion on all of them?

crude sandal
primal blade
#

oh lol

fluid anvil
#

NC blue + Melony + Skyla should be able to sync 5 times with her (7 total), at least if you arent using confusion for her IS5

limber blaze
#

This is the best I could do

#

Please help

#

Adaman is syncing

primal blade
crude sandal
#

NC Cheren
1st Sync (4 Sync Buffs)
-2 Rebuff: 299,520
-1 Rebuff: 259,584 * 2
Total: 818,688

2nd Sync (5 Sync Buffs)
-2 Rebuff: 349,441
-1 Rebuff: 302,848 * 2
Total: 955,137

3rd Sync (6 Sync Buffs)
-2 Rebuff: 399,361
-1 Rebuff: 346,113 * 2
Total: 1,091,587

4th Sync (7 Sync Buffs)
-2 Rebuff: 449,281
-1 Rebuff: 389,377 * 2
Total: 1,228,035
Total Sync Move Damage: 4,093,447

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So he barely beats Skyla sync even if Skyla has IS5

fluid anvil
#

Skyla might break ~4,5M, not sure about 5M

primal blade
#

isnt skyla way easier to setup though since cheren wants to both speed debuff and max out pmun?

#

since nc blue literally does everything

crude sandal
fluid anvil
#

I dont see any scenario where Cheren can have the same number of syncs (assuming both have double SuppEX) as the NC blue + Skyla + Melony
Skyla will always have at least 1 extra sync on him in the end
whatever comp he uses - his setup and status spam is notably slower than NC blue + melony + Skylas near-instant setup
And if you only use 1 Supp Ex for him then he is missing sync buffs = missing damage

crude sandal
#

Well, the calcs for my Anni Skyla has her at 4/5 while Cheren is 3/5

#

So I prolly gave Skyla has slight advantage over him

fluid anvil
#

Plus how would he even get 2 SuppEX syncs in the first place ? SC Steven doesnt have support role
Cherens first sync will have 2 sync buffs, not 4

crude sandal
fluid anvil
#

WEEZing oh

fluid anvil
#

so with a supportEX SC steven - Cheren would have a chance (though I dont think he can get 4 syncs himself then, its too slow .. 2 Supp syncs + 3 Cheren syncs is realistic)
in reality Skyla will probably win

fluid anvil
vagrant ivy
#

the best flying striker in history vs the best flying striker of today

sacred badger
vagrant ivy
#

i have to rely on lodge skyla this time

sacred badger
#

Why does this guy have 2 sync damage up and SEUN?

crude sandal
misty forge
#

At least

crude sandal
#

If you're gonna go the spam route with NC Cheren, NC Rosa is miles better than Melony

#

Or maybe Oleana with Venom Drench might actually be better, at least for Cheren's set up

#

NC Rosa/NC Cheren/Oleana

fluid anvil
#

poison ticks kill timer

crude sandal
#

Lemme cook

sacred badger
crude sandal
copper otter
misty forge
#

He has actual stats and multipliers

#

Nothing new

crude sandal
#

With Interference Sync 5 on all enemies

#

Without Cakewalk

sacred badger
crude sandal
#

Both have 4 sync buffs (double support EX)

sacred badger
#

PB soon?

#

Okay sum liza better than anni steven lol

crude sandal
#

@true locust I've figured out the best NC Cheren team

sacred badger
#

Oh crap her giga impact is awesome hmm

#

Hmmm ill try this in 2 resets

misty forge
#

Like nothing

#

She's real strong

sacred badger
#

Mmhmm in down for that

vagrant ivy
#

how much do you guys think lodge skyla will do

#

maybe just over 1m?

crude sandal
#

Depends on the team

long silo
#

People out here talking about 4m Cheren and Skyla. Meanwhile I'll waste my time struggling to even hit close to 2m with Ethan

#

Then fail and go to Cheren anyway WEEZing

crude sandal
#

Cheren is stronger anyways CherenEmbarrassed

long silo
#

As an Ethan fan I am obligated

#

I even pulled Cheren for him even tho Cheren is clearly better lol

royal jolt
#

I guess it's a good thing I held myself back when SS Ethan's banner was around 😟

long silo
#

He's a fave so I never regretted it

fluid anvil
#

I have 3/5 Cheren EXR, but I'll still use 3/5 EXR skyla, even though she lacks the extension
TabithaHehe

royal jolt
#

I want 3/5 Anni Skyla 🥹
But, tech is always a competitive role

long silo
#

My Skyla will be stuck at 2/5 lmao

fluid anvil
#

doubt.jpg

royal jolt
#

So, the next cycle will have rules? How do we know that for sure?

Or, do we just don't?

sour lark
#

Hm?

crude sandal
#

Wait, the next set of regular DC has rules?

sour lark
#

Rules apply to Super Sparring every month

royal jolt
#

I could just be misremembering, but wasn't the next cycle of DC supposed to have rules?

#

Ik super sparring has rules, but I'm only asking for the regular DC

sour lark
#

Where'd you see that? HilbertHmm

royal jolt
vernal condor
#

nah there's nothing like that

royal jolt
#

Ohh ok
Must've gotten my wires crossed

sour lark
#

When I searched for "rules" just now, all I found was a mention of this month's Super Sparring rules

#

No status on the Rock-weak fight... Time for Aaron's Defend Order spam trick, then

crude sandal
true locust
#

Who low speed🤣

crude sandal
#

No one

true locust
#

Then you damage is nothing

crude sandal
#

Nah

true locust
#

Hah

#

This team is pointles

crude sandal
#

#1255888121648644197 message

#

Comparing Anni Skyla and NC Cheren

#

Both have 4 sync buffs

true locust
#

Anni skyla have max speed from nc blue

crude sandal
#

Yes

true locust
#

So she have max multi for sync cheren no

crude sandal
#

Cheren does almost the same damage as Skyla without Cakewalk

true locust
#

Plus flinch confusion and raise eva from skyla buy time

#

She sure get 2 sync whit it

crude sandal
#

Rosa has evasion too if you get it

true locust
#

Yeap but you sync whit rosa lose alot time

crude sandal
#

Also, Skyla needs to use a move to trigger Shifty Squad, and it's 50/50 too

true locust
#

Yeap more then nc rosa🤣

#

Wat have like 15%?

#

For eva

crude sandal
#

At least Rosa's RNG is at the beginning

#

Which means not much time wasted

true locust
#

Just sc steven and barry for me better

#

Less sync but max damage

crude sandal
#

Also Rosa can set up PMUN for Cheren

true locust
#

One rebuff super up next

#

Yeap but way slower then stevens

crude sandal
#

Depends

#

But with using Sing spam strat, Cheren needs to proc TM MPR God knows how many times

#

For the SEUN

honest tendon
#

who’s my best option for grass damage?

royal jolt
#

This is my current idea for Cheren's grid, but I'm debating picking up On a Roll

I kind of just need a second opinion here. I'd be dropping a sync power-up and Strong Start 1 for it. So, would it be worth it?

vernal condor
#

I think you drop a Sync node and get more energy for tm mpr

#

So you have SEUN

fallen trail
#

here’s what i’m thinking rn any suggestions ??

true locust
#

Not use him🤣

royal jolt
vernal condor
royal jolt
dense gate
#

Just realized I’m cooked for both Ghost and Rock types in Super Sparring. There aren’t even any rock type scouts this month smh

true locust
#

Rock is gordie

#

And morty

#

Both 2 fp units can be used

dense gate
#

I have neither at 3/5 unfortunately

true locust
#

Go on banners you get them😘

dense gate
#

Brock and Onix it is for Rock

sturdy pebble
#

Speaking of, how did SS Hilda do in ST Fire?

toxic sleet
copper otter
#

because if it was type gears, I betcha, the skill gears will push you to 1 mil

crude sandal
fossil igloo
#

Decided to try something different.

sacred badger
#

cool

crude sandal
#

None

royal jolt
#

what's the idea behind that?

crude sandal
#

2x Support EX with sync spam is better damage than Cakewalk

crude sandal
royal jolt
crude sandal
#

All of his syncs

royal jolt
#

uh huh... I follow along so far

#

what team?

crude sandal
#

NC Blue and NC Rosa

#

Don't say Melony is better because NC Rosa provides MUN stacking for Cheren

thin wren
#

why not chase

royal jolt
#

I know Rosa is better

#

I'm also using Cheren

thin wren
#

why not chase over blue

crude sandal
thin wren
#

does nc cheren have rival theme skill?

crude sandal
#

None

thin wren
crude sandal
#

Rosa would be doing it

thin wren
#

15% chance on b move.....?

crude sandal
#

You're doing it at the start anyways

thin wren
#

chase would give even earlier evasion and circle should boost an equal amount

#

also support sprint sync

crude sandal
#

And if you want to, you can grid Cheren's Slippery Slope 9

long silo
normal parcel
normal parcel
crude sandal
cunning rock
#

Very happy with this. 3 Sunny Day pops for 3 SEUN syncs into one last Solar Blade

teal haven
#

how did you spam the gauge down?

#

teeter dance?

cunning rock
#

Yup. Teeter Dance spam

#

Even at +6 speed, I still needed to weave Dahlia's TM to rush sync while the gauge fills up

plush palm
#

last sync didnt crit

#

kinda rng heavy just getting that last sync in

vapid kernel
#

Damn sc rosa not 1m too

crude sandal
#

Didn't skinny make a vid with SC Rosa hitting 1M?

cloud timber
#

yes

plush palm
lethal siren
#

Flying triple tmr

fossil igloo
#

That's SS Ethan time for me.

cunning rock
#

F2Ps have LODGE SKYLA SkylaYay

fluid anvil
lethal siren
crude sandal
lethal siren
#

Blue can also work

#

Free head start 1
Good sync nuke tiles

pallid girder
#

Rayquaza has easy multiplier and self SEUN. Maybe he can score fine ig.

crude sandal
lethal siren
#

Do sync power flux counts only sync gauge or users gauge TabithaHehe

crude sandal
#

It's based on how much gauge it has

lethal siren
#

Chase
Melony
Blue

#

Nc blye / melony or elio(gives atk) /Skyla

#

Ig melony is better sing spammer in triple dc

pallid girder
crude sandal
#

For Cheren, NC Rosa is better

vapid kernel
#

SUMMER LISA TIME

crude sandal
#

She's like 3rd best

tender patrol
#

Sync power flux like Melony doesn't exist

#

Is NC Cheren the best option?

misty forge
#

Easily so

fluid anvil
toxic sleet
#

finally WeezingLFG too lucky of a run to replicate ngl lmao

cursive linden
#

BP Barry 1k Nuke WeezingLFG

thin wren
#

carried by bp Barry nuke

cloud timber
#

bp barry could 200k on his own dmg maybe but his stats setup isn't great and he can't benefit off grassy terrain and handle his own cd

#

maybe nc blue redlax or elio and something

thin wren
cursive linden
misty forge
#

He won't

unique abyss
#

...first try, I forgot to use SEUN before the last sync tho LarryDead

misty forge
#

He'll do 200k

#

At best

unique abyss
#

Lmao, I would be in top 10 WEEZing

cloud timber
#

i think nc blue plus dahlia would be best carry for bp barry, teeter dance to have another spam option but stun spore helps get some gauge back even if grassy terrain regen sucks

#

maybe enough to get 6 total syncs

cunning rock
#

BRUH

#

THAT AMOUNT OF MISSES THIS RUN MANAGED TO GET 4 ERIKA SYNCS

#

But the amount of move fails made sense cuz Lodge Acerola has Static Cling (Para chance when hit) + Stop Hitting Yourself (against a Teeter Dance spam) + +4 Self Evasion

vapid kernel
vapid kernel
cunning rock
sour lark
#

Do we know the details on how Stop Hitting Yourself affects Confusion?

crude sandal
#

It increases the chance of hitting the enemies in confusion right?

#

If afflicted by it

lapis yarrow
#

what are the top priority units to put SP3 on?

vapid kernel
sour lark
#

Okay yes but I want to know the numbers

vapid kernel
#

that maybe someone else knows but ive never heard of it

wanton thicket
#

Stupid/outdated question but why are people using NC Rosa instead of Colress for countdown? I didn't think she had any MGR; are 1 bar moves just fast enough to not need it?

#

Never mind I'm just blind

fallen trail
#

provided your team has enough speed buffs

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she CAN run charging infliction but its a bit slower bc of the skill popup

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its why melony is queen rn

wanton thicket
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Hmm. How much of a speed buff is enough?

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And if you sync with her first for the sprint/support combo, is it more worth it to spam Teeter Dance with Charging Infliction or to use her buddy move to swap back?

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(I'd assume switching back is better, since Sing seems more reliable at skipping animations from the opponent)

vapid kernel
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For Melony shes often used with +6 Speed from NC Blue

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But even that is not enough so the striker usually has some form of gauge generation to help

wanton thicket
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I meant for Rosa. I guess it's probably similar?

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I usually like using Holiday Jasmine for Super Effective Up Next and support EX

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(Don't have classic Red, unfortunately)

teal haven
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Sleeper for y'all f2p folks for flying 3v3: lodge skyla

cloud timber
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you use her b move to switch back but it's so slow that it negates the sprint ex and rosa users often avoid syncing with her altogether

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melony doesn't deal with that penalty so she's generally preferred if rosa isn't contributing something specific like her pmun/smun stacks being needed

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but her speed stat is also much better and her extra sing accuracy helps a little

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bc hitting the acc check is faster than failing it even if they both look the same vs a para'd opp

fossil igloo
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Almost.

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still hearth
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Probably SS Erika with something like

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copper otter
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yes

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Regular Gladion can change to any On-type damage

devout pelican
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OG Gladion would need more before he can do anything in DC tho

cloud timber
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yea it's primarily if you expect to be using him in gauntlet

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fossil igloo
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Hit my main goal. Let's see if I can push it a bit further.

dusk plume
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for the upcoming Flying 3v3, who makes a better partner for NC Blue + NC Cheren? Melony or NC Rosa?

unborn otter
unborn otter
lusty galleon
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finally

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unborn otter
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Grass gear sucks

sacred badger
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flying multi soon

cunning rock
# unborn otter Grass gear sucks

I actually just used 3-star Grass Gear for this too. You just need to pray for a lot of move fails to get a fourth Leafeon sync. Also I only got three Sunny Day charges, used it on the first, third, and fourth sync

crude sandal
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Tell me, who's gonna win this next DC?
Tornadus or Tornadus?

rain copper
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Yes

crude sandal
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Interesting, prove it to me Gakon

sacred badger
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i'm gonna do uh

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big damage with summer liza

royal jolt
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I've been so busy with my week, I didn't realize 3v3 Flying is tonight

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I have a fair amount of units I can try this time, so I'm excited!