#Damage Challenge
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I guess I'll take this half million inthe face then
Ofc
Ik the basics
But sadly my sandstorm
Literally goes away for that specific sync
Oh yeah 1/5 cynthia can't protect allies from sandstorm
Sandstorm and ground buff takes so much time. So I can't put that in.
I gave Barry sand shelter
Oh i didn't know he had that
Lucky cookie
Nice one
Crap I didn't give lance the sand shelter.
Ok I'll try with that but the score still not gonna change too much I feel
Yeah 3/5 Cynthia is nuts man
I'm making do with 1/5
Redlax can stay, but replace rika with bp barry
Yeah 3 sand chip isn't a huge diff
I have like 7 tickets do I jusy get them 3/5 or can I do thay with my candies I already have
If you have extra candies then use them
But if you've only got a few candies then maybe save them for other decent f2p units and use tickets for dupes
Alright yeah ima have to use the dupe tickets i inly have 1 candy
If I do it more optimally, I can get closer to 4mil or more
But idk if I wanna keep doing that
Now to find out Barry's sync grid anywhere i can find thay?
What was the ceiling today
All you need is the inflicting gauge thingie, you need nothing else from his grid
If there is any accuracy you can grab those
Slapping sand shelter on him is probably a good idea, as Scottie did above
That sandstorm and ground buff animation takes lit
20 seconds
It's not worth...
Can't get that sandstorm in in time for the last sync.
Yeah idt you want to click sandstorm a 2nd time
I used 1 sandstorm the whole battle
And lasted me
Every sync
But i am using double supports
(they sync first)
It literally is about to leave or actually leaves for my last sync
How many syncs for Cynthia did you have?
I can get at max 3, not even hoping 4.
Also only one support for me.
I have 4/5 Cynthia so she has that already
Oh very nice
Yeah all my arc pairs are 3+ Steven eas 5/5
3 syncs, while I have room to try to push for a fourth, my sand will be gone by then
So won't try
I can though
Do it much better
And use my TM for my last sync
For maximum damage output
even 3 syncs is a stretch....
unless you're singing
yeah im done w this shiz.
i didn't even get my last sync in for this attempt.
DESPITE the sand shelter for lance somehow... should've been more time for me
Me with my 1/5 Arc Cynthia looking at all of these high scores 
no worries im here w you
got 578k w what i have...
Guess SS Gio's coming out of the retirement home 
Reset for so long for this
Would be slightly better if I bothered to get better skill gear 😅 but idm I just like executing the best strategy I can
Why are you even using lance?
Def debuffs
I imagine you can get better with another support like NC Blue or Chase
Dragonite hitting 3 giga impacts is a lot of time
I assume you fish for para with him too
Ummm I lit have like only up to fifteen non f2p units
Very limited in what I have
In that noob world, Barry just is the god.
But I'm def keen towards next Kanto trio rerun
Def gonna go for blue
Barry is good regardless,
Just tryna see if you can avoid 3 giga impacts
Some limited heavy rosters still use barry
Yeah I realize the three hits with dragonite take time
But isn't it about the same with colress screech 3 times
Idk guessing . Don't have him.
Actually, if I use emolga... I might be able to have time to bring that last sync w sandstorm w no problem
But in sacrifice of all 6 def down ...
Will try though
I need help pushing 1 mil with my 1/5 AS Cynthia
I don't have any of the useful uber supps 😔
Nothing like NC Blue?
No NC Blue or Redlax
Or SC Steven
My support roster
Managed to squeeze out a 960k with ss elesa and bp barry tho
🤯 omg that is the highest score I've ever gotten in anything
Probs something like this
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
Grass 3v1 next? Finally it's time for Adaman 
God dammit I hate that this worked
Can't believe I just had to bring a second ground striker to break 1 mil
Wow
how is 2/5 arc cynthia + 3/5 rika + colress
rika so cynthia doesnt have to reapply ground zone w her extension
rika is garbage in dc
sing spam would be the better word for it considering nothing ever goes to sleep
Bad idea
i feel like setting a 2nd sandstorm wastes even more time lol
reactive passive wastes almost as much time and rika doesn't give anything else
melony would save more time
or smth like redlax to gain more of a boost since your ASC is only 2/5
colress would be the main tank but ik aoe moves
Rika ain't worth it
Oh yeee yee
?
that's a different kind of comp
Ik, just saying that you can use Rika in this dc
since it's dps based
i used rika in a dps team during the anni one for 1 mil w rose too
DPS teams are always the wackiest teams in DC
but i didnt have arc cynthia now
Before this DC, I actually thought of using Rika in sing comp because she can poison 
Most fun comp imo
Aoe Poison 
Wait does she has HE for Poison Sting ?
no

But but she has TM Slippery so you can fish for dodge 
current general top comps spam syncs as well ngl
Okay so
I just throw 3/5 Arc Cynthia at this, then, right
i could only get 2 syncs in this doesnt feel that good lol… its a million though so i guess its fine
You need para all and flinc whit blue . Melony blue sync then 3 whit sand cynthia
that sounds very time consuming
Depend on luck;)
Can be soon can take alot effort🙂↔️
You on 2/5 have mp refresh so its not bad
Do I want Cynthia's ability to trap via Attack Trap 4 for the sync up next or is it not worth the time loss
...I'll take the deafening silence as an "it's not worth it"?
Wow, all this without hitting the mpr for Cynthia TM
That's kinda crazy
Sa Gio should be decent with Aaron and Rika
hahah hope i'll get him one day lmao
+6 evasion and -2 accuracy doesn't add up 
This is 62, was able to get 1.2m with him, rika, and colress
holy sheet
smokescreen sync from Colress. tbh was surprised he even synced with Colress
that's the thing, the max possible value is already gotten by +6 evasion
if you wanted to use the -2 accuracy into your favor, you only need +5 evasion
oh i see
meaning that run can even get higher by not syncing with Colress at all
Technically -2 acc isnt 100% equal to +2 eva bc of passive mitigation, but yeah +6 eva is alr the cap and you wont get higher dodge chance by adding any -acc after it.
that's why I said +5 Eva and -2 acc

of course, bigger mitigations means you need to go lower ranks*... so it is better to just raise evasion
How much is Arc Cynthia's extension?
Ground zone starting at 1:38 is not lasting the whole battle
ext 3
Sad Garchomp noises
ext passives are 10x seconds of the number added right
so extension 3 is +30 seconds
base 45 sec so thats 75 seconds or 1:15
2:30 for two
yeah not quite the whole fight
~7.4M
lets goo
Not 7,4😒
7,39
Need be correct
Sad this stupid sand
If was just ground zone she could do 4 sync
And 8m would be no issue
Yeap same team
42%
Gears
But got most high rolls
Its key
Since diffrence in run can be 200-300 k
how many +Atk from gears ? 80-100 ?
first try
Are people too focused on LG? Only 1 submission so far lol
Probably
Also, I don't feel like my score is even worth submitting
Unless there's no SS Gio
as i said there's literally only 1 submission so far
and ss gio isn't really good for dc, he isn't getting much more than 1m
Yeah
So, am I looking at another sub-300k DC round again?
I'll try to drum something up if I even can
At best, there's a chance I get a little higher score
At worst, I just submit that 1M run. It's not the best, but it's still 1M
Better
Courtney should do something, she was able to get 1M in 3v1, so maybe 600k is possible idk
Perhaps. I'll see what I ran with for single target
guess they are also just copying what was used in the ranked one lol
I remember when we were still figuring out the mode. Fun times.
true
HOLY 
Not sub 300k
With a little better support, she can cross 1M
Awesome, is that Even Better than the 1st battle ?
How can people fish for arc Cynthia MPR? I can't even use tm once (and I'm still a bit short even with 0 tm)
Do they get like an MPR and 10 paralysis?
you need ~2+ para procs I guess, for max score
or use the bianca colress evasion strat 😉
the phrase "better support" than melony+nc blue is something my brain couldn't imagine 😵💫
Lmao
I definitely won't be reaching 800k with her. 600k sounded like a more realistic estimate and I'd be okay with that
Yeah 750k with Courtney is pretty easy
Her ground zone extension is so good, lasted the whole 2minutes
only one
people are too focused on lg
The max I could get, with NC blue I just can't land the last sync at least with SC Steven I can get some seun and -4 def instead of -2
Obviously not
You get like top 500 past 11
I think ppl are just like
Ye im doing Arc Cynthia but i dont have the best score so why am i submitting
Or
Ye i dont have Arc Cynthia so why am i submitting
hey top 500 right now is 30 whole clears (I am at 30 whole clears)
hello 30 wholes clears i am Maelmc
i havent even touched LG
doesn't this one prove my point?
4/5 ASC should be getting lottttttttt more
thats not ASC
still low for a striker
No. near 1M for really old units is good
and OG Cynthia also needs sand, which is bad in DC
5/5 crosses 1m anyway
I'm nervous for tuesday's DC. 
I knew I did not want to be resetting for triple paralysis with Zapdos , so I stole the Colress team. This run was cursed I was paralyzed for most of it but somehow still got the run
Skill gear used, 31% sync multiplier for status conditions. +75 atk
-2 acc isn't doing anything for eva chance once you have +6
Hmm that means Cynthia syncs earlier meaning 1 more mp refresh would be needed, not to mention Sandstorm would fall off so it would be best to not to use sandstorm with the first sync.
That would also mean SP3 over Sand Blaster 4 lucky skill would probably be better.
See any holes in my assessment?
Good enough. I could probably get a better score, but I don't feel like doing that again right now.
what makes NC bianca so versatile in DC? i keep seeing her usage lately
wondering if she's worth candying if she's helpful in this mode
Circle + team evasion boosts are the main things I believe
Is 1/5 exr arc cynthia considered better than 5/5 ex og cynthia?
100%
og barely breaks 1m from what i managed and 1/5 arc can reach 2m?
or get close
zone and rebuff are so huge
i got 1.4m with 1/5 Arc Cynthia and that was first try
could she boost og cynthia instead of herself?
she can but i'm not sure it's worth it
arc cynthia is also working off 300 base sync at 1/5 and base is 192 at 5/5
but
base cynthia can afford all sync nodes which buffs it to 292 and get haymaker
and sand blaster 5
ye she should outnuke
grid i used for reference with ww3 ls
just depends if she can compensate arc cynthia being able to use a second support
Hm, is 1/5 Arc Cynthia or 3/5 SS Gio better for this
with how awful diantha/ss wally was i tend to believe it's better to run nc blue/melony with a strong enabler than another damage dealer
arc/base cynthia have enough synergy that it's worth reconsidering at least
So i got this on my 2nd or 3rd attempt
But seeing as others are cashing out multi millions i wanna see if i can do better
I wonder if spamming is even valuable here since you can also just nuke everyone with her b move
no sand shelter on bp barry?
b moves are generally incredibly slow and syncs themselves hardly take time
I have it but also unecessary
as garchomp comes with team sand immunity
the b move is slow but it powers up her sync moves AND lowers opponent defense
so the damage is (possibly) made up
its -2 def
yeah running dc9 is also a huge problem
you're sacrificing sync move power somewhere
you're looking for a grid with mpr and all sync move buffs
I was using the one provided in the build doc
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
propulsion + team sand immunity
if you already have +6 you can run this
build doc likely won't have dc-optimized grids so that's not what you want to be using for here
note that i do not have arc cynthia and i have not used her so i'm speaking off general dc experience
somebody who actually does have her should be talking but oh well
everything you’re saying is right
ASC ideally is fitting in 4 syncs iirc
how?
wait so we arent bothering with the support sync this time around
no you still sync with both Blue and Melony before that
6 syncs total then
correct
wow
and if all goes well there should be a bit of time at the end for a B move too
might need help with that one chief
doesn't that need 2+ para?
probably yes
even with redlax exr i dont think i can do that
in ranked I got 3 and had 5 seconds spare
i know redlax trainer move is slower than barry spam
yeah Barry spam is not getting you to 6 syncs
who does?
it needs to be NC Blue Melony
sonia would be next best still likely
Is as Cynthia not doing high dmg easily?
so ive been wondering this but what does sing spam have over stun spam
no passive pop up every time you use it
in melony's case
in elio's case it only pops up some of the time instead of all of the time so still faster than bp barry/colress
with elio you have way more options for paralyzers including and most notably redlax
self-sustains gauge
elio/redlax will be your bread and butter for most things
cynthia can technically give herself seun but redlax will ease the rng for getting seun on everything
arc cynthia still the best option even at 1/5 right
yep
possible you may want another damage dealer as she provides zone and rebuff to help everything else but she does well on her own
provided nc blue + melony
what team?
as cynthia redlax elio
hrm. buddy move kinda sucks; its tm refreshing tbh.
babys first million
and babys first two million B]
this is without her sandstorm tile bc i wasnt sure how long it would last, literally first run with mpr
do ya all think Lear could reach 5.5 mil in psychic 3v3?
Yes, he may nit have any SE stuff but it's pure sing spam and rosa can roll evasion
chase and nc rosa is what many people have theorised
nc blue version hit 1.7 mil in st and no one really tried chase at the time cuz too much rng but he could have made it a 2 mil
chase already maxes evasion iirc
First sync with 2x support EX:
242134, 244825, 247515, 250205, 252896, 255586, 258276, 260967, 263657, 266348, 269038
In terms of SS Erika for next DC, I think she can reach 1M+
i borked my recording 😭😭
@delicate junco diff comps but handshaking on the 3/5 exr arc cyn carrying us
but yeah i know everyone says boo rika bc reactive passives but consider: slippery 1 off tm and mpr means they just miss :) and when they dont miss they para :)
so the eq/surf just hit like normal with no passive proc anyway
also i threw some pulls at the insane triple fair and managed to get sygna hilbert
no paid gems for sc barry needed, i finally have both a worthwhile bug AND a better aoe -spdef with metal sound instead of uh. lucian
ss hilbert goat
look hes a second tech bug i can put in my roster so next time i get that br roll i dont Only have viola
and given my utter paucity of rebuff units
"Iirc" 
Blue got easier on triple, chase got the stats coverage for 18
Will be fun to see
Chase should be better but with lots of rng
At least Lear got soften up so the crit part is covered 
Soften Up? What's that?
Sanity saver title
Who needs sanity anyways? 
Besides, you have to deal with evasion insanity anyways
So why even grid that useless tile in this mode?
which makes soften up even more necessary
assuming you have finite time and finite patience
which i think can apply to everyone
I have 5/5 SS Diantha and during the 3v1 rock DC, not once did I even grid Soften Up and still got master 7
diantha doesn't have strike ex
Depend if other titles have the priority, or did you just dropped it for +10 atk? 
Yeah single is another thing
don't need soften up for that
I had a damn good nc leaf run for fire but I still missed always one crit 
Matter of attempts true but I can't spend too much time
soften up is def something you don't always want to take but it is in fact an important option
Luckly there aren't compromises on Lear grid
Like, if I had 5/5 Lear, I would take S-Move: 7 Stats Up 1 instead of Soften Up
Because I have to deal with evasion RNG regardless
And I have to restart when I don't get a good run
You can get both eventually
Eh, if it was 3v3 DC, I'd focus purely on damage, no QoL like Soften Up
it's not the biggest ask to get perfect crits on every sync with strike ex
but when you combine that with wanting good evasion rng

you're probably going to end up taking a few non-crits
You gain dmg somewhere but hig chance to lose dmg on crit, not worth imo
Soften Up is too good to ignore
especially in a mode where every bit of damage matters
If you can pick soft up yes
If skipp some important stuff then no soft up
Most runs cant use him sadly
Lear can pick Soften Up comfortably
Lear yes
Like, this is what I have for Lear
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/6600/72000?s=5&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=13016403&g=AAECAwQFDhUYGSMlLC4vMTU&x=true
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
Yours 5/5?
I don't even have him, but if I did, then this is what it'd look like for 3v3 psychic DC
it's not the best build tho,
I think IF stats7 is needeeld will look like this
But imo it will not be required if ppl run either chase or blue
Well, mine doesn't have Soften Up so yeah
Like I said, I focused purely on damage, no QoL
You need soft up
And chase are the best for him
Since raise all stuff for raise tide
i don't and prob won't have 5/5 lear so i won't be facing that specific dilemma
4/5 so I'm good to avoid that 
That's for chase ye
Yeap most optimal team chase lear melony
Where No Stat Field? You want the enemies to not have speed buffs incase they use X Speed All
Then you need snatch on 3
So my grid was good:)
Its why chase need alot miss so can afford snatch it
and finite sanity tho I think no poma player has sanity
why, that tile doesn't help that much
Evasion
I am a big soften up hater but idt lear has better options
Never tested the new snatch title, how boring Dena 
extra sync tile over s move stat up
you need snatch mpr btw to debuff all enemies imo
Yeha but itst not really needed for chase so we 4/5 havers are good
stat field doesn't do anything
for 1/5 arc cynthia do you cookie sand shelter on your spammer
stat field is actively bad here
No sens since cant use in advance
honestly, very reasonable
It would good if one stach and set it
chase already maxes evasion
if only it triggered on fail
same grid
Yeap but its say move need be worked
I am wondering if Lear could touch 6 mil
Not sure about it
Since need use 3 snatch
Time will be limited
Chas need set sts use moves alot
All off this take time
yeh
Don't tell me will be barry+scSteven 
evasion rng wil be needed
In the end we may end use
Nc blue lussa rosa
Since this team if rosa give 2 eva from switch form
Can be better
nah, nuke gap is too big
Set up is fast easy just get 2 miss
And you can sync whit lussa alot more then whit lear
Just dodge everything with Lear to make up for the timeloss
Funnies but still looking for an alternative, looks there isnt much
lusaa has 90% mult while lear has 290% iirc
Just set up lear chase its take time you would need avoid like 90% moves whit chase
And some miss on aoe need for all off them
as long as it's not a 0% chance
Just need to reset 100 times
100 times🤣
You big optimist
Off course lussa issue she need sync crit
So rng will be in both teams
Im more bothered abt chase for triple
Still blue has a significant advantage if you para them all, flinch and -2 spdef on sync
You lose 1 stat
Blue has 15
I will do anything for Lear
17 then
Where is 3 others?
9 from TM, 6 from X Speed All+ and 2 from passive
Blue gives less multiplier and less evasion
crit counts for rising tide
It shpuld
I heard it not count
crit is actually a stat that's being buffed
Crit its not a sts
Yeah it does
lemme ask in the research channel
So yeah is just one less stats
Hmm 17? Then you can use discharge
Pomatools
For flinch all one more time
I think stdk would have considered that
Yes but won't evasion overall still net more value and chase still gives more of a boost than blue?
Roling for triple para, flinch and mindgames 
I use double adre chase
will switch to headstart ls then
I have vigilance, adre and headstart on my chase as ls
I still think chase will be better but blue will probably have better results early on
As long as you can fit that last sync you're good
Also damn ssSteven isnt in his best shape
Watch dena dopping a DD9 custom ls
Blue can't? +6 spa, +6 speed, + 1 def, +1 spdef, +3 crit, so it can give 17/18, the real plroblem may be the x item (i don't remember what they used)
I mean if the x item is x atk or x sp atk, blue can fully setup Lear, because you will have to discharge twice regardless
If it's x speed would be a big problem
With x def/spdef you could snatch from an unit before syncing with blue
They have speed
Nc blue can use discharge one more time and flinch when aoe move then its fine
Yes but you will need a speed debuffer, unless you want to snatch 3 times (with MPR)
Need snatch
Wondering if SS Steven. Would perform close to Lear, at least his setup should be much faster since it doesn't needs to snatch the speed buffs
But I don't think an extra sync may be enough to offset Lear sheer power
no way
Lear has a much stronger sync
ss steven struggled a lot in comparison to ss lusamine last time
no grid mults
at least if brendan can 2m then he should too but last time it was not much over 1m iirc
very first rotation so no one knew any meta yet
How do I reach 1M on Damage Challenge

Sadly my colress is at 1/5
fortunately there are other alternatives
Bp barry
no, he wont be close, his sync is far weaker
I'm not sure he even breaks 4Mil or beats LuSSA
yeah i was thinking maybe 3m with nc blue + nc rosa, 4m sounds impossible
I think with modern meta he should perform much better than before, his sync is definitely stronger than lusamine's one, is just that lusamine has good dps (but don't know if it's still relevant) yes Lear has much stronger sync (but same is true for NC cheren vs Gloria alt2 but Gloria had the edge because cheren setup was kinda bad)
Really useful for setting up debuff based nukes
But those usually score lower than the best units
So it depends if ur best units are mostly debuff based
so...
who will be the first to join Cynthia in the 7 Mil club ? 
Lear(definitely not copium)
if they gave lucas expanded sync he'd actually get there
OG Lear will be lucky to break 5 Mil because of needing triple snatch + NC Rosas usual sync/B-move time waste issues
SS lear definitely is not touching 5 Mil IMO
or if they gave him strike exr instead of support
Strike Lucas would be at 6 Mil, idk about 7 Mil
he had ~1,7-1,9M in 3v3 Dragon IIRC
peaked 2.6m
Maybe you can use both
believe in our glorious king
perhaps Psychic Arc will boost him, but then again it might not have sing like Rosa
i used the same lucas team for 3v1 and 3v3, 1.4m in 3v3 and 2.39m in 3v1
effort is a bigger factor than the arena itself
3v3 is just faster, enemies make more attacks, waste more time, less time for you/less syncs
a 3v1 single-target result isnt automatically applicable to 3v3
IIRC NC Hop got a lower result in 3v3 fighting even after getting Support EX
than he had in 3v1 FIghting, before the support EX
it's not, but it's usable for some sort of insight
never any guarantees
2.6*3 is 7.8m but we're looking at the 7m mark so if 3v3 lowers the amount by less than 800k it crosses 7m
it's possible it could be a lot more but the point is that there's a possibility
also i am misremembering dragon single since it happened after lucas ex role and not before so strike ex would not have done it
he definitely did not have exr for dragon triple
Or just use Snatch immediately to trigger: No Stat Increase Field
it wont trigger if the enemy doesnt have any buffs
10/5 OG Lear jsut needs a passive that will make Snatch AoE
a unit that doesn't exist yet
What’s that thing of 10/5 ?
We don't know yet
"10/5" is just a possibility the players thought up
But the dev letter implied it's a different thing as a whole
yeah it said there's a new system
its not going to be 10/10 move level, I jsut call it "10/5" to distingusih from the 5/5 grids
how is there only 1 recorded clear for this rotation 
its rng heavy so its going to be heavy on your phone if you are constantly recording.
Ohh okay didn’t miss an episode so
But However, hype for the best super sparing tbh
Essentialy to know which duo should I upgrade
I have a question, is Diantha 3 B moove (implying 1 rock wish) + spam with Oleana faster than Diantha 0 b moove (implying no rock wish) + 5 Aaron Def up ?
Anni N passive on base Lear would be epic
There are more actually. People just don't bother submitting their recorded clears
Have you checked the all clears and pending submission tab
oh there's a bunch from the ranked event, i think
Would have gotten more if Cynthia tm refreshed and I got at least one more parahax
For a 5/5 arc cyn it's not that high
how high is it now? 7m?
dunno

one person got 7m+
She doesn't gain any boosts to her sync at 4/5 and 5/5, how can the score differ so much
move levels increase power of moves and sync moves no?
But it's only by a little bit
well in theory 4/5 can do like 6m too if you look at it that way
maybe its just that people don't know the team
since a dozen people total have 6m+ and i can tell you that way more than a dozen people have 4/5 or 5/5 arc cyn
30/330
10%
I don't think you can gain an extra 1M with 10%
Oh there ARE recorded 5M runs
and the 7m+ person said they had like +42% from skill gears
I want to see peak performance
since they prepped specifically to get 7m on this rotation
yeah if you prep gear it shouldn’t be that hard, I did not prep gear at all for ranked and got 5.4 (I haven’t tried too hard this rotation yet so I’m still one sync off ideal)
Shit mode
Not people's fault
waiting for a top 100 clear score without kanto characters
in this DC ? or in ranked ?
for this DC - Cynthia+NC Bianca+Colress gets 6,4-6,5M
hm I wonder if bianca can go higher than this setup
1.7m, colress - elio - roxanne runerigus
old data(finally 2nd)
for record
hrm 1m.
nice
Dont have lana ooof
do you have any of the major sync spam units (melony)

I think ill do uh nc blue, rosa and ss lusamine
Is the sing spam worth getting rid of Psychic terrain?
I'm going to have my revenge on Ground 3v1 and Steel 3v3

I am gonna destroy psychic 3v3.
We didnt know techs yet
aiming for top 5 minimum
Who’s better between Tornadus Skyla and Tornadus Cheren ?
Doesnt anni skyla need setup?
Have in mind that Skyla is 5/5 exr and Cheren 3/5 exr
Yeah for sure, but I just need to know about numbers
cheren by far but they serve different roles
you usually use them together
What's gonna be NC Cheren's teammates for Flying 3v1?
Oh hmm anni skyla only wants spd buffs, has soften up
Anni Skyla can have NC Blue and Melony as teammates and they're good
And interference sync
Ok Great
Flying zone active for nuke too
So Tcheren is the only one who’ll destroy Flying battle
yes
What's NC Cheren's team?
tbh anni Skyla can get the same score as NC Cheren in DC, maybe even a bit higher
According to the pomatools damage calculator, Skyla makes more damage than Cheren from 2 Times more
did you give cheren pmun
did you give enemies -1 rebuff
did you consider that interference sync mult won't be active?
what's next 3v3
3 dcs left before we get psychic
So how are we suppose to get NC Cheren's Cakewalk?
3 bmove uses iirc
Yeah. Anni Skylas kinda better there since u can dump interference sync .-.
My Anni Skyla is 1/5 no EXR
Chase and melony/elio
OG Blue vs NC Cheren with no speed debuff on Sp. Def -2
Ah wait, i forgot that NC Cheren has PMUN multiplier
Yeah i'm staying on NC Cheren, his PMUN multiplier is much better to use than his Cakewalk
I think summer liza, gloria alt and melony cud work
the current top 100 is ~4,2M, damn
Does Bianca with field give a highe sync boost than nc blue? I think it's +25%, more with other unovans on the team?
I guess it will just be 5/5 grids 2.0
Why gloria alt? She cant para all
This team need alot miss / para and gauge manage since you easy can run out. And flinch timming
I saw them run bianca with colress so no gauge issue
But yeah i think lots of flinches are needed to reach 3 syncs with asc
They flinched the first 3 attacks consecutively 
Yes she can, bounce has 30% paralysis chance
Does the stage have x speed? Because you still want to use at least 1 b move for the rebuff (and -2 speed)
uhhh, i don't know
But we're supposedly have X Speed all on all stages from now until Ice 3v1
I've had awful luck with arc cynthia tm refresh, didnt get it once
i think even just one tm refresh can push me to 4M
So, which pair do I use as my damage dealer?
1/5 arc cynthia? I guess you're better with 3/5 gio
this should do the trick
you can also put sands of time 2 instead of surging sand, then you wont need extra energy and neither matters, since they dont buff the sync, they're only there so you can reach haymaker
I'd just run super syncer + max super prep
Over mpr TM
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
It's pretty much a guaranteed 1mil
Without any RNG involved as long as you crit half of the targets on average
should i use skyla with barry and arcynth
for the speed buff
nvm i just used sonia
um am i supposed to sync spam with 1/5 arcynth
i got 360k when i did that
but when i spam earthquake i got 500k
If you'referring to damage challenge, check #1255888121648644197 to see optimal team comps for that as Arc Cynthia's setup is more difficult than you'd think
She has to rely on sandstorm, ground zone and her TM which will waste time
Oh.... my god.
I thought this was #1217072721268314185
its okay i am a new player lol

im just wondering cuz like by the time i have her set up i only have a minute left
I just woke up from a nap and always see you there so immediately thought that this was new player zone
no worries
But regardless.
Arc cynthia has to focus on her DPS. Her sync isn't the best, but you can't use her DPS until both your support and her have synced.
This is so that she can set -2 rebuff for max damage.
DO NOT USE Sandstom until you sync with her.
can i post how ive been doing it
You should be able to
You can use a video compressor
There should be one on the google play store that can compress it to be under 25 mbs
But there is a team that used Sonia/Melony/Arc Cynthia 1/5, but they need you to have insane para luck to avoid aoe moves like eq and surf
They got 1.1 mil but they would use Sonia spark to para, then melony to sing fail
But she can speed up sync on the side
So idk
Are you able to 3/5 Barry
he is 3/5
Then you should get Charging Infliction from his grid
is that infinite gauge
It basically just gives you back the gauge you used
ok ill try it
tyvm
should i make a whole grid for it or
is it okay to just go for that skill and nothing else
I’m sure it’s fine with just going for that one
If you're using barry, you don't need Sonia
You can swap barry for someone who can provide SEUP or sleep
SEUp would be better tho
I gave it about another hour and a half. Paralysis and dodge luck was not the problem this time around Cynthia just not triggering mp refresh.
The run would ignore the Colress sync for negative accuracy -2 and sync with Cynthia. This sync would not have SandStorm since it would fall off when it truly mattered and would not have the tm since time is already tight.
That 6.5 I did would jump a considerable amount 6.9ish is achievable , 7m if high roles also seem possible.
Maybe I'll try again tomorrow but I got to get started on Gauntlet.
What is the best option for this? I have stuff like red lax and champion red too.
Please ping me
Arc Cynthia ís your best option
What should I run her with? Colress and uh what else?
just the usual sync rush strat
And she should reach a million?
do you have melony/elio and redlax/nc blue?
I have all of those
Should I use some combo of those?
you can try. save your arc cynthia's TM for her final sync.
you'd want to stick to nc blue + melony or at least try that one first
So paralysis with blue, use his tm and just sing with melony?
And use Cynthia tm
yeah should largely be the same as usual, save cynthia's tm for her final sync
What should I do with her at the start? Ignore her and just do sing spam and paralysis?
And what blue grid?
shouldn't need to change anything, just try it out
i don't own arc cynthia so i don't know any specific details or differences
both spammers probably want sand shelter if Cynthia isn’t 3/5
that would be the only difference
and if you’re going for 4 Cynthia syncs (possible with some paralysis procs) her first sync needs to be outside of sand
What cookie is that?
the same one that gives the individual status immunities
it’s the gold listed between the vigilance cookie and the type guard cookie
Oh that one
yeah I am so bad with the names and colors that I just remember positions
I was worried it was purple because that's event only
even if it was deluxes, the event those are locked behind is running right now
And I'm guessing cake Cynthia?
Instead of melony, can I use NC Rosa to put them to sleep because of go viral?
So a team of NC Rosa, Arc Cynthia, and NC Blue?
actually applying sleep is slow
Rosa would have an extra proc every time she clicks sing if go viral is gridded which slows things down a lot
So its better to stick with colress for the usual thunder wave spam?
no, Charging Infliction spam is greatly outclassed by sing failing spam
Ohh ok, ill try that out
NC Blue Melony is the top core because a paralyzed opponent cannot be put to sleep, and Melony is the most beneficial carrier of the move Sing
I skipped quite a few of the damage challenges so I was still using colress/redlax core
Didnt know there was a better one overall, where can I find the grids for melony and nc blue?
melony should not get anything from grid other than sing accuracy and speed tiles
and blue just wants hostile environment and the defense drops on sync along with speed tiles
Appreciate the help
I got a tm refresh but got a lower score than an unoptimal run without refresh
Wtf
Ok it makes sense this time. Idk what happened in the previous run.
Even 1/5 can do over a million
nice
1.5M+*
I think in damage potential, Kyurem N is better than Articuno Red, but in the DC case, there’s too many condition for KN to makes his best damage
But in comparaison it’s about the double or more damage than Articuno Red
What SSN's mults again
are you accounting for the fact that red will have double rebuff?
dirty sync 6, innate opp -atk = more damage,
Yeah
This Time I double Check it
For SSN
why peak readiness? were there no better tiles
even if SS N had better nuke than Red, his multipliers are awkward to setup
and NC Red has better nuke than him anyway
dirty sync is easy enough (if you're running paralyze easy.) , -1 atk down on opponent == demoralizing sync 6 is going all out (if you're running zapdos, -1 ATK aoe). the only thing would be the the rest of the atk buff to -6 hm.
thankfully his kit doesnt say "Needs to be frozen for damage" like Holiday Leon (ooof)
any status conditions is pretty nice
SSN 1)5 has 60% para anyway
Took several resets but RGN finally gave me refresh on Cynthia TM + two paralyzes that allowed me to use the B-move
i am so ready for single Grass T~T
MF Adaman Will carry this one right ? 😃
yea, he will be the best
I won't have adaman, so I'll suffer with Erika or something
Don’t say that when you still have daily scout pulls left! 
Erika is too good of a unit to cause suffering
D:
just gotta replicate this

yes
the peasants will have to make do with SS Erika
( I am a peasant )
Cries in 1/5 Adaman
2/5 for me
I'm getting ready for flying 3v3 this Friday
Since I just spent my candies on NC Cheren
hi can someone explain how the sing spam tactic works on melony
Pin has the stuff
basic gist is it's similar to bp barry/colress spam but melony doesn't have any passive required to spam so it saves time each use
so you use it on a paralyzed target with enough gauge and you get more syncs
Sing spam requires gauge management like speed buffs, MGA and/or field MGA
SS Erika stonks
oh so it's just to make someone who has a sync nuke hit as many times as possible?
pretty much yeah
I can't figure out why I can't make more than two sync moves happen though
You are spamming with Melony right?
if you're using colress with melony you have to be pretty careful with swapping between twave and sing to maximize sing usage without running out of gauge
and with arc cynthia you also need to make sure your spammers are sand immune
(what does that mean)
sand shelter
ideally you have nc blue for gauge but sonia can work too
Is it the one with blastoise
zapdos
zapdos
Oop nope idts
I don't think i have either of them so welp this is an issue
5/5 arc cynthia 1m?
Im crying😭
Just use bp barry and corles
Corles low def all and bary spam
i dont have barry either i have played for a month and a half... I can get him from the shop?
battle points exchange
exchange, its under BP
Oh will i not be using eq?
oh my god I'm so bad at this I don't even know what I don't know
don't use b move until the very end when you can't fit more syncs and you want to set sand manually
your gimmick is essentially... use sync moves to get the damage in.
bmove is only at the last move.
i'd save your TM for your final sync.
but if you want to get more points with a refresh, you can do it.
ok i will take that out of my sync grid and try again (?)
i tried a couple days ago and was stuck at 770k LOL
Mean you doing wrong stuff
Its not possible so low
This is grid wat need be used
Sync barry he need be ex
Then cynthia
i dont have enough resources to ex barry i think
Then rest sync whit cynthia sand storm and use tm befor last
charging infliction stun spore
It's easy, (just use Photoshop)
Because is what they did (there's no way og Erika scores 1m)
Did you check the pinned message here? #1255888121648644197 message
Why are there only two clear submissions?

People are probably just busy with LG and stuff, and it’s also pretty similar to the ranked DC
Right
I should be able to get more than 600k with original Cynthia but it looks like everyone is using Arc Cynthia
But I don’t have Arc Cynthia because the 5/5 Cynthia I have already is good enough for ground weak stages
check for pending o.o
I had a look and it looks like pending was empty last time I checked
wait wut
base cynthia? :D~
Oh paulo has sand extension
that explains it
It just tried using og cynthia but barely could get 600k lol
Despite 5 EX +10E 😭 but paulo is a great partner for her
yeah i have the paulo + aaron combo ready for anything that happens to want sand
Nice
Nice to hear
Besides SSA Cynthia, are there other potential partner for Aaron spammer
paulo and ss morty
nothing else is really contributing more than getting aaron to spam quicker
Hmmm
I'll check SS Morty then
Maybe he can be used for double Support Sync
This is supposedly for ranked DC next week but thinking about it SS Erika might actually be able to use this
it's always better to have aaron do 5 defend order at worse and have your other support actually bring more damage, than having your support enable aaron spam
?
why diantha tho
Initially I asked this in context of Ranked DC (ST Rock)


