#Damage Challenge

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sullen zephyr
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Did you use cynthia's tm for the final sync?

fluid wave
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I guess I'll take this half million inthe face then

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Ofc

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Ik the basics

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But sadly my sandstorm

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Literally goes away for that specific sync

sullen zephyr
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Oh yeah 1/5 cynthia can't protect allies from sandstorm

fluid wave
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Sandstorm and ground buff takes so much time. So I can't put that in.

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I gave Barry sand shelter

sullen zephyr
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Oh i didn't know he had that

fluid wave
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Lucky cookie

sullen zephyr
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Nice one

fluid wave
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Crap I didn't give lance the sand shelter.

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Ok I'll try with that but the score still not gonna change too much I feel

native totem
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Yeah 3/5 Cynthia is nuts man

fluid wave
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I'm making do with 1/5

sullen zephyr
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Redlax can stay, but replace rika with bp barry

sullen zephyr
native totem
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I have like 7 tickets do I jusy get them 3/5 or can I do thay with my candies I already have

sullen zephyr
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If you have extra candies then use them

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But if you've only got a few candies then maybe save them for other decent f2p units and use tickets for dupes

native totem
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Alright yeah ima have to use the dupe tickets i inly have 1 candy

rapid sparrow
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If I do it more optimally, I can get closer to 4mil or more
But idk if I wanna keep doing that

native totem
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Now to find out Barry's sync grid anywhere i can find thay?

rapid sparrow
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What was the ceiling today

rapid sparrow
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If there is any accuracy you can grab those

sullen zephyr
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Slapping sand shelter on him is probably a good idea, as Scottie did above

rapid sparrow
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That's a cookie though

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Don't look for it in the grid

fluid wave
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That sandstorm and ground buff animation takes lit

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20 seconds

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It's not worth...

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Can't get that sandstorm in in time for the last sync.

sullen zephyr
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Yeah idt you want to click sandstorm a 2nd time

rapid sparrow
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I used 1 sandstorm the whole battle

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And lasted me

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Every sync

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But i am using double supports

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(they sync first)

fluid wave
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It literally is about to leave or actually leaves for my last sync

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How many syncs for Cynthia did you have?

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I can get at max 3, not even hoping 4.

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Also only one support for me.

native totem
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I have 4/5 Cynthia so she has that already

sullen zephyr
native totem
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Yeah all my arc pairs are 3+ Steven eas 5/5

rapid sparrow
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So won't try

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I can though

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Do it much better

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And use my TM for my last sync

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For maximum damage output

fluid wave
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even 3 syncs is a stretch....

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unless you're singing

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yeah im done w this shiz.

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i didn't even get my last sync in for this attempt.

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DESPITE the sand shelter for lance somehow... should've been more time for me

sturdy pebble
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Me with my 1/5 Arc Cynthia looking at all of these high scores WulfricKEKW

fluid wave
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got 578k w what i have...

sturdy pebble
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Guess SS Gio's coming out of the retirement home WEEZing

torpid wigeon
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Reset for so long for this

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Would be slightly better if I bothered to get better skill gear 😅 but idm I just like executing the best strategy I can

rapid sparrow
fluid wave
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Def debuffs

rapid sparrow
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I imagine you can get better with another support like NC Blue or Chase

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Dragonite hitting 3 giga impacts is a lot of time

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I assume you fish for para with him too

fluid wave
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Ummm I lit have like only up to fifteen non f2p units

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Very limited in what I have

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In that noob world, Barry just is the god.

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But I'm def keen towards next Kanto trio rerun

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Def gonna go for blue

rapid sparrow
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Barry is good regardless,
Just tryna see if you can avoid 3 giga impacts

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Some limited heavy rosters still use barry

fluid wave
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Yeah I realize the three hits with dragonite take time

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But isn't it about the same with colress screech 3 times

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Idk guessing . Don't have him.

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Actually, if I use emolga... I might be able to have time to bring that last sync w sandstorm w no problem

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But in sacrifice of all 6 def down ...

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Will try though

pseudo stag
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I need help pushing 1 mil with my 1/5 AS Cynthia

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I don't have any of the useful uber supps 😔

crude sandal
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Nothing like NC Blue?

pseudo stag
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No NC Blue or Redlax

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Or SC Steven

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Managed to squeeze out a 960k with ss elesa and bp barry tho

fluid wave
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🤯 omg that is the highest score I've ever gotten in anything

plain cedar
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so close

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what’s the right way to optimize Gio grid here

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got 70 energy in him

misty forge
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Probs something like this

unique abyss
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Grass 3v1 next? Finally it's time for Adaman PoryWoke

pseudo stag
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God dammit I hate that this worked

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Can't believe I just had to bring a second ground striker to break 1 mil

cursive linden
fallen trail
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how is 2/5 arc cynthia + 3/5 rika + colress

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rika so cynthia doesnt have to reapply ground zone w her extension

cursive linden
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Don't

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Wastes too much time

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Use Melony instead of Rika for sleep spam

thin wren
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rika is garbage in dc

thin wren
fallen trail
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i feel like setting a 2nd sandstorm wastes even more time lol

thin wren
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reactive passive wastes almost as much time and rika doesn't give anything else

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melony would save more time

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or smth like redlax to gain more of a boost since your ASC is only 2/5

fallen trail
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colress would be the main tank but ik aoe moves

thin wren
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Rika ain't worth it

cursive mauve
thin wren
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that's a different kind of comp

cursive mauve
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Ik, just saying that you can use Rika in this dc

thin wren
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since it's dps based

fallen trail
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i used rika in a dps team during the anni one for 1 mil w rose too

cursive linden
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DPS teams are always the wackiest teams in DC

fallen trail
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but i didnt have arc cynthia now

cursive mauve
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Before this DC, I actually thought of using Rika in sing comp because she can poison LarryDead

cursive mauve
warped gulch
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Aoe Poison PrycePain

fallen trail
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wackiest teams

most normal playstyle

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dc brainrot

warped gulch
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Wait does she has HE for Poison Sting ?

fallen trail
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no

warped gulch
cursive mauve
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But but she has TM Slippery so you can fish for dodge SophoKEK

thin wren
fallen trail
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most normal for the game in general lol

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oh ffs i need sand shelter

old valve
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Okay so

I just throw 3/5 Arc Cynthia at this, then, right

fallen trail
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i could only get 2 syncs in this doesnt feel that good lol… its a million though so i guess its fine

true locust
fallen trail
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that sounds very time consuming

true locust
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Depend on luck;)

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Can be soon can take alot effort🙂‍↔️

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You on 2/5 have mp refresh so its not bad

old valve
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Do I want Cynthia's ability to trap via Attack Trap 4 for the sync up next or is it not worth the time loss

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...I'll take the deafening silence as an "it's not worth it"?

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Wow, all this without hitting the mpr for Cynthia TM

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That's kinda crazy

normal parcel
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Sa Gio should be decent with Aaron and Rika

rose basalt
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already cleared it so i dont need it

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thx tho

zenith jolt
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hahah hope i'll get him one day lmao

lusty galleon
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+6 evasion and -2 accuracy doesn't add up RosaThink

teal haven
ivory kestrel
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holy sheet

ivory kestrel
lusty galleon
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that's the thing, the max possible value is already gotten by +6 evasion

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if you wanted to use the -2 accuracy into your favor, you only need +5 evasion

ivory kestrel
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oh i see

lusty galleon
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meaning that run can even get higher by not syncing with Colress at all

pallid girder
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Technically -2 acc isnt 100% equal to +2 eva bc of passive mitigation, but yeah +6 eva is alr the cap and you wont get higher dodge chance by adding any -acc after it.

lusty galleon
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of course, bigger mitigations means you need to go lower ranks*... so it is better to just raise evasion

acoustic chasm
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How much is Arc Cynthia's extension?

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Ground zone starting at 1:38 is not lasting the whole battle

merry nymph
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ext 3

acoustic chasm
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Sad Garchomp noises

plain cedar
fallen trail
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ext passives are 10x seconds of the number added right

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so extension 3 is +30 seconds

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base 45 sec so thats 75 seconds or 1:15

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2:30 for two

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yeah not quite the whole fight

true locust
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Now its this is it

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Hehe

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Finaly got high rolls and all mprs:)

fluid anvil
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~7.4M BarryPogChamp lets goo

true locust
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Not 7,4😒

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7,39

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Need be correct

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Sad this stupid sand

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If was just ground zone she could do 4 sync

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And 8m would be no issue

fluid anvil
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same team ? NC blue + Melony ?

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show gears TabithaHehe

true locust
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Yeap same team

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42%

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Gears

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But got most high rolls

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Its key

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Since diffrence in run can be 200-300 k

fluid anvil
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how many +Atk from gears ? 80-100 ?

true locust
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90

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100 is hard get whit this opp stuff🤣

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Was easy when was just status haha

sacred flower
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first try

vernal condor
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Are people too focused on LG? Only 1 submission so far lol

royal jolt
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Probably

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Also, I don't feel like my score is even worth submitting

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Unless there's no SS Gio

vernal condor
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as i said there's literally only 1 submission so far

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and ss gio isn't really good for dc, he isn't getting much more than 1m

royal jolt
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Yeah

feral hamlet
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So, am I looking at another sub-300k DC round again?

royal jolt
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I'll try to drum something up if I even can
At best, there's a chance I get a little higher score
At worst, I just submit that 1M run. It's not the best, but it's still 1M

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Better

unique abyss
feral hamlet
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Perhaps. I'll see what I ran with for single target

lusty galleon
feral hamlet
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I remember when we were still figuring out the mode. Fun times.

acoustic chasm
royal jolt
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With a little better support, she can cross 1M

zenith jolt
normal parcel
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How can people fish for arc Cynthia MPR? I can't even use tm once (and I'm still a bit short even with 0 tm)

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Do they get like an MPR and 10 paralysis?

fluid anvil
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you need ~2+ para procs I guess, for max score
or use the bianca colress evasion strat 😉

fluid wave
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the phrase "better support" than melony+nc blue is something my brain couldn't imagine 😵‍💫

royal jolt
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Lmao

feral hamlet
# royal jolt Not sub 300k

I definitely won't be reaching 800k with her. 600k sounded like a more realistic estimate and I'd be okay with that

misty forge
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Yeah 750k with Courtney is pretty easy

vapid kernel
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Seriously theres only 1 submissoon for this Dc?

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Or is my excel not loading

vapid kernel
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Her ground zone extension is so good, lasted the whole 2minutes

vernal condor
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people are too focused on lg

normal parcel
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The max I could get, with NC blue I just can't land the last sync at least with SC Steven I can get some seun and -4 def instead of -2

vapid kernel
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You get like top 500 past 11

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I think ppl are just like
Ye im doing Arc Cynthia but i dont have the best score so why am i submitting

Or

Ye i dont have Arc Cynthia so why am i submitting

icy pendant
vernal condor
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hello 30 wholes clears i am Maelmc

fluid anvil
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i havent even touched LG

thin wren
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4/5 ASC should be getting lottttttttt more

fluid anvil
thin wren
fluid anvil
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No. near 1M for really old units is good
and OG Cynthia also needs sand, which is bad in DC

cloud timber
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5/5 crosses 1m anyway

copper otter
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I'm nervous for tuesday's DC. PrycePain

dry whale
cloud timber
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-2 acc isn't doing anything for eva chance once you have +6

dry whale
# cloud timber -2 acc isn't doing anything for eva chance once you have +6

Hmm that means Cynthia syncs earlier meaning 1 more mp refresh would be needed, not to mention Sandstorm would fall off so it would be best to not to use sandstorm with the first sync.

That would also mean SP3 over Sand Blaster 4 lucky skill would probably be better.

See any holes in my assessment?

cloud timber
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nah

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that one thing i said is literally the only thing i know

fossil igloo
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Good enough. I could probably get a better score, but I don't feel like doing that again right now.

pure light
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what makes NC bianca so versatile in DC? i keep seeing her usage lately

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wondering if she's worth candying if she's helpful in this mode

glad kraken
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Circle + team evasion boosts are the main things I believe

fluid tendon
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Is 1/5 exr arc cynthia considered better than 5/5 ex og cynthia?

cloud timber
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100%

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og barely breaks 1m from what i managed and 1/5 arc can reach 2m?

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or get close

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zone and rebuff are so huge

pure light
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i got 1.4m with 1/5 Arc Cynthia and that was first try

brisk shale
cloud timber
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she can but i'm not sure it's worth it

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arc cynthia is also working off 300 base sync at 1/5 and base is 192 at 5/5

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but

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base cynthia can afford all sync nodes which buffs it to 292 and get haymaker

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and sand blaster 5

brisk shale
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ye she should outnuke

cloud timber
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grid i used for reference with ww3 ls

brisk shale
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just depends if she can compensate arc cynthia being able to use a second support

sturdy pebble
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Hm, is 1/5 Arc Cynthia or 3/5 SS Gio better for this

cloud timber
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with how awful diantha/ss wally was i tend to believe it's better to run nc blue/melony with a strong enabler than another damage dealer

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arc/base cynthia have enough synergy that it's worth reconsidering at least

delicate junco
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So i got this on my 2nd or 3rd attempt

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But seeing as others are cashing out multi millions i wanna see if i can do better

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I wonder if spamming is even valuable here since you can also just nuke everyone with her b move

cloud timber
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no sand shelter on bp barry?

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b moves are generally incredibly slow and syncs themselves hardly take time

delicate junco
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as garchomp comes with team sand immunity

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the b move is slow but it powers up her sync moves AND lowers opponent defense

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so the damage is (possibly) made up

cloud timber
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yeah it looks terrible

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1 symun is not very strong at all

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same with -1 def

delicate junco
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its -2 def

cloud timber
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yeah running dc9 is also a huge problem

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you're sacrificing sync move power somewhere

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you're looking for a grid with mpr and all sync move buffs

delicate junco
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I was using the one provided in the build doc

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propulsion + team sand immunity

cloud timber
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if you already have +6 you can run this

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build doc likely won't have dc-optimized grids so that's not what you want to be using for here

delicate junco
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Okay i can try this out

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are we not clicking the buddy move then?

cloud timber
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only for final move

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once you can't fit in any more syncs

delicate junco
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my defense downs :c

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oh well

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this is probably better

cloud timber
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note that i do not have arc cynthia and i have not used her so i'm speaking off general dc experience

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somebody who actually does have her should be talking but oh well

icy pendant
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everything you’re saying is right

delicate junco
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in 2 syncs i got 1.89 mil

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so uh

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yeah damn

icy pendant
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ASC ideally is fitting in 4 syncs iirc

delicate junco
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how?

icy pendant
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first sync is pre-sandstorm

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last two syncs have TMs applied to them

delicate junco
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wait so we arent bothering with the support sync this time around

icy pendant
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no you still sync with both Blue and Melony before that

delicate junco
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6 syncs total then

icy pendant
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correct

delicate junco
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wow

icy pendant
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and if all goes well there should be a bit of time at the end for a B move too

delicate junco
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might need help with that one chief

brisk shale
icy pendant
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probably yes

delicate junco
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even with redlax exr i dont think i can do that

icy pendant
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in ranked I got 3 and had 5 seconds spare

delicate junco
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i know redlax trainer move is slower than barry spam

icy pendant
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yeah Barry spam is not getting you to 6 syncs

delicate junco
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who does?

icy pendant
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it needs to be NC Blue Melony

delicate junco
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yeah not happening sorry

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no nc blue for me

cloud timber
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sonia would be next best still likely

delicate junco
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that I do have

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replacing redlax?

cloud timber
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yeah you need her mga for gauge

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from using potion

warped gulch
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Trying Volo but he still sucks

lethal siren
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Is as Cynthia not doing high dmg easily?

delicate junco
cloud timber
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no passive pop up every time you use it

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in melony's case

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in elio's case it only pops up some of the time instead of all of the time so still faster than bp barry/colress

delicate junco
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well melony doesnt have ex

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sooo elio it is

cloud timber
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with elio you have way more options for paralyzers including and most notably redlax

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self-sustains gauge

delicate junco
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probably should have led with this

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here's my 6* Supports

cloud timber
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elio/redlax will be your bread and butter for most things

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cynthia can technically give herself seun but redlax will ease the rng for getting seun on everything

loud cedar
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arc cynthia still the best option even at 1/5 right

cloud timber
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yep

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possible you may want another damage dealer as she provides zone and rebuff to help everything else but she does well on her own

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provided nc blue + melony

delicate junco
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So this is by far my best yet

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So this what it feels like to have cracked units

sacred badger
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what team?

delicate junco
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as cynthia redlax elio

sacred badger
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how many syncs in total for arc cynthia?

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3?

delicate junco
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ye

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or 2 and some buddy moves

sacred badger
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hrm. buddy move kinda sucks; its tm refreshing tbh.

glossy token
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babys first million

and babys first two million B]

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this is without her sandstorm tile bc i wasnt sure how long it would last, literally first run with mpr

thin wren
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do ya all think Lear could reach 5.5 mil in psychic 3v3?

crude sandal
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What will you use with him?

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Maybe NC Blue and NC Rosa

civic island
thin wren
thin wren
thin wren
crude sandal
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First sync with 2x support EX:
242134, 244825, 247515, 250205, 252896, 255586, 258276, 260967, 263657, 266348, 269038

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In terms of SS Erika for next DC, I think she can reach 1M+

glossy token
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i borked my recording 😭😭

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@delicate junco diff comps but handshaking on the 3/5 exr arc cyn carrying us

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but yeah i know everyone says boo rika bc reactive passives but consider: slippery 1 off tm and mpr means they just miss :) and when they dont miss they para :)

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so the eq/surf just hit like normal with no passive proc anyway

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also i threw some pulls at the insane triple fair and managed to get sygna hilbert

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no paid gems for sc barry needed, i finally have both a worthwhile bug AND a better aoe -spdef with metal sound instead of uh. lucian

cloud timber
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ss hilbert goat

glossy token
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look hes a second tech bug i can put in my roster so next time i get that br roll i dont Only have viola

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and given my utter paucity of rebuff units

civic island
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Blue got easier on triple, chase got the stats coverage for 18

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Will be fun to see

thin wren
civic island
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At least Lear got soften up so the crit part is covered SabrinaPray

crude sandal
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Soften Up? What's that?

civic island
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Sanity saver title

crude sandal
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Besides, you have to deal with evasion insanity anyways

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So why even grid that useless tile in this mode?

cloud timber
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which makes soften up even more necessary

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assuming you have finite time and finite patience

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which i think can apply to everyone

crude sandal
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I have 5/5 SS Diantha and during the 3v1 rock DC, not once did I even grid Soften Up and still got master 7

cloud timber
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diantha doesn't have strike ex

civic island
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Depend if other titles have the priority, or did you just dropped it for +10 atk? ShaunaInvestigate

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Yeah single is another thing

cloud timber
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don't need soften up for that

civic island
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I had a damn good nc leaf run for fire but I still missed always one crit LarryDead
Matter of attempts true but I can't spend too much time

cloud timber
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soften up is def something you don't always want to take but it is in fact an important option

civic island
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Luckly there aren't compromises on Lear grid

crude sandal
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Like, if I had 5/5 Lear, I would take S-Move: 7 Stats Up 1 instead of Soften Up

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Because I have to deal with evasion RNG regardless

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And I have to restart when I don't get a good run

civic island
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You can get both eventually

crude sandal
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Eh, if it was 3v3 DC, I'd focus purely on damage, no QoL like Soften Up

cloud timber
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it's not the biggest ask to get perfect crits on every sync with strike ex

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but when you combine that with wanting good evasion rng

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you're probably going to end up taking a few non-crits

civic island
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You gain dmg somewhere but hig chance to lose dmg on crit, not worth imo

rain copper
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Soften Up is too good to ignore

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especially in a mode where every bit of damage matters

true locust
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If you can pick soft up yes

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If skipp some important stuff then no soft up

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Most runs cant use him sadly

rain copper
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Lear can pick Soften Up comfortably

true locust
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Lear yes

crude sandal
true locust
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Ss diantha on ranked also can use soft up

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Since no para sing team

crude sandal
rain copper
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it's not the best build tho,

civic island
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I think IF stats7 is needeeld will look like this
But imo it will not be required if ppl run either chase or blue

crude sandal
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Like I said, I focused purely on damage, no QoL

true locust
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You need soft up

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And chase are the best for him

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Since raise all stuff for raise tide

cloud timber
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i don't and prob won't have 5/5 lear so i won't be facing that specific dilemma

civic island
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4/5 so I'm good to avoid that ArvenSurrender

true locust
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The best grid

civic island
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That's for chase ye

true locust
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Yeap most optimal team chase lear melony

crude sandal
# true locust

Where No Stat Field? You want the enemies to not have speed buffs incase they use X Speed All

civic island
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Drop 8E cap on it adam VoloStonks

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Or just remove the side nodes

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Just better

cloud timber
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doesn't work on fails

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so you can't use it in advance

true locust
civic island
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That sucks

true locust
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Then you need snatch on 3

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So my grid was good:)

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Its why chase need alot miss so can afford snatch it

thin wren
crude sandal
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/s

thin wren
crude sandal
thin wren
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I am a big soften up hater but idt lear has better options

civic island
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Never tested the new snatch title, how boring Dena LarryDead

thin wren
thin wren
civic island
thin wren
loud cedar
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for 1/5 arc cynthia do you cookie sand shelter on your spammer

true locust
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Yeap need snatch mpr

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So need 6 e + on lear

thin wren
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stat field is actively bad here

true locust
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No sens since cant use in advance

thin wren
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honestly, very reasonable

true locust
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It would good if one stach and set it

thin wren
true locust
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Then this is it

thin wren
thin wren
true locust
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Yeap but its say move need be worked

thin wren
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I am wondering if Lear could touch 6 mil

true locust
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Not sure about it

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Since need use 3 snatch

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Time will be limited

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Chas need set sts use moves alot

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All off this take time

thin wren
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yeh

civic island
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Don't tell me will be barry+scSteven WEEZing

thin wren
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evasion rng wil be needed

true locust
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In the end we may end use

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Nc blue lussa rosa

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Since this team if rosa give 2 eva from switch form

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Can be better

thin wren
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nah, nuke gap is too big

true locust
#

Set up is fast easy just get 2 miss

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And you can sync whit lussa alot more then whit lear

thin wren
#

Just dodge everything with Lear to make up for the timeloss

civic island
# thin wren why?

Funnies but still looking for an alternative, looks there isnt much

thin wren
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lusaa has 90% mult while lear has 290% iirc

true locust
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Just set up lear chase its take time you would need avoid like 90% moves whit chase

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And some miss on aoe need for all off them

thin wren
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as long as it's not a 0% chance

true locust
#

Its crazy rng

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Nc blue lussa rosa can do 2 more sync

thin wren
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I will do anything for my king

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Lear has more than double the power per sync tho

true locust
#

So lear chase need crazy miss just get -1 sync

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Then score be better

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-2 no

thin wren
#

Just need to reset 100 times

true locust
#

100 times🤣

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You big optimist

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Off course lussa issue she need sync crit

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So rng will be in both teams

civic island
#

Im more bothered abt chase for triple
Still blue has a significant advantage if you para them all, flinch and -2 spdef on sync

true locust
#

Blue cant set raise tide

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Chase have flinch and para too

civic island
true locust
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Need 18 for it

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Blue have 12

crude sandal
#

Blue has 15

true locust
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They raise speed so snatch is poitles

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14

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Def and spe def

thin wren
crude sandal
#

17 then

true locust
#

Where is 3 others?

crude sandal
#

9 from TM, 6 from X Speed All+ and 2 from passive

thin wren
#

Blue gives less multiplier and less evasion

true locust
#

He only give speed 6

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Special 6

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And def spe def 2

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Its 14

thin wren
#

crit counts for rising tide

true locust
#

Crit count?

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Its not sts lol

civic island
#

It shpuld

thin wren
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it should

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rising refers to buffs

true locust
#

I heard it not count

thin wren
#

crit is actually a stat that's being buffed

true locust
#

Crit its not a sts

civic island
#

Yeah it does

thin wren
#

lemme ask in the research channel

civic island
true locust
#

Hmm 17? Then you can use discharge

civic island
true locust
#

For flinch all one more time

civic island
#

I think stdk would have considered that

true locust
#

When they use aoe move

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Then have set it up

thin wren
#

Yes but won't evasion overall still net more value and chase still gives more of a boost than blue?

civic island
true locust
#

I use head 1 on nc blue

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Time is key

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-2 spe def is ok

thin wren
#

I use double adre chase

true locust
#

Head is better

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Adr no sens

thin wren
#

will switch to headstart ls then

true locust
#

When spam sing its no realy diffence

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After sync adr or 1 sing

thin wren
#

I have vigilance, adre and headstart on my chase as ls

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I still think chase will be better but blue will probably have better results early on

civic island
#

Also damn ssSteven isnt in his best shape

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Watch dena dopping a DD9 custom ls

normal parcel
#

I mean if the x item is x atk or x sp atk, blue can fully setup Lear, because you will have to discharge twice regardless

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If it's x speed would be a big problem

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With x def/spdef you could snatch from an unit before syncing with blue

true locust
#

They have speed

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Nc blue can use discharge one more time and flinch when aoe move then its fine

normal parcel
#

Yes but you will need a speed debuffer, unless you want to snatch 3 times (with MPR)

true locust
#

Need snatch

normal parcel
#

Wondering if SS Steven. Would perform close to Lear, at least his setup should be much faster since it doesn't needs to snatch the speed buffs

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But I don't think an extra sync may be enough to offset Lear sheer power

thin wren
#

Lear has a much stronger sync

cloud timber
#

ss steven struggled a lot in comparison to ss lusamine last time

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no grid mults

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at least if brendan can 2m then he should too but last time it was not much over 1m iirc

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very first rotation so no one knew any meta yet

cobalt pollen
#

How do I reach 1M on Damage Challenge

misty forge
vagrant ivy
#

could get 2m if I reset for 2 MPR

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sadly cannot candy her to 3/5

cobalt pollen
#

Sadly my colress is at 1/5

rain copper
#

fortunately there are other alternatives

true locust
#

Bp barry

fluid anvil
cloud timber
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yeah i was thinking maybe 3m with nc blue + nc rosa, 4m sounds impossible

normal parcel
vapid kernel
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But those usually score lower than the best units

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So it depends if ur best units are mostly debuff based

calm anvil
fluid anvil
#

who will be the first to join Cynthia in the 7 Mil club ? MinaBreak

cloud timber
#

if they gave lucas expanded sync he'd actually get there

fluid anvil
#

OG Lear will be lucky to break 5 Mil because of needing triple snatch + NC Rosas usual sync/B-move time waste issues
SS lear definitely is not touching 5 Mil IMO

cloud timber
#

or if they gave him strike exr instead of support

fluid anvil
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Strike Lucas would be at 6 Mil, idk about 7 Mil
he had ~1,7-1,9M in 3v3 Dragon IIRC

cloud timber
#

peaked 2.6m

normal parcel
fluid anvil
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2,6M, really ? huh

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are you sure 2,6M wasnt 3v1 ?

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3v1 =/= 3v3

cloud timber
#

he wouldn't be very optimized in 3v3

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no one would push him

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bad metric

fluid anvil
#

perhaps Psychic Arc will boost him, but then again it might not have sing like Rosa

cloud timber
#

i used the same lucas team for 3v1 and 3v3, 1.4m in 3v3 and 2.39m in 3v1

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effort is a bigger factor than the arena itself

fluid anvil
#

3v3 is just faster, enemies make more attacks, waste more time, less time for you/less syncs
a 3v1 single-target result isnt automatically applicable to 3v3

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IIRC NC Hop got a lower result in 3v3 fighting even after getting Support EX
than he had in 3v1 FIghting, before the support EX

cloud timber
#

it's not, but it's usable for some sort of insight

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never any guarantees

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2.6*3 is 7.8m but we're looking at the 7m mark so if 3v3 lowers the amount by less than 800k it crosses 7m

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it's possible it could be a lot more but the point is that there's a possibility

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also i am misremembering dragon single since it happened after lucas ex role and not before so strike ex would not have done it

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he definitely did not have exr for dragon triple

crude sandal
fluid anvil
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it wont trigger if the enemy doesnt have any buffs

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10/5 OG Lear jsut needs a passive that will make Snatch AoE

vagrant ivy
fluid anvil
#

Perhaps a water arc can push Dahlia to 7 Mil

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or getting a good 10/5 passive

zenith jolt
#

What’s that thing of 10/5 ?

misty forge
#

We don't know yet

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"10/5" is just a possibility the players thought up

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But the dev letter implied it's a different thing as a whole

cloud timber
#

yeah it said there's a new system

fluid anvil
#

its not going to be 10/10 move level, I jsut call it "10/5" to distingusih from the 5/5 grids

sullen zephyr
#

how is there only 1 recorded clear for this rotation MonkaScottie

sacred badger
#

its rng heavy so its going to be heavy on your phone if you are constantly recording.

zenith jolt
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Ohh okay didn’t miss an episode so

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But However, hype for the best super sparing tbh

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Essentialy to know which duo should I upgrade

#

I have a question, is Diantha 3 B moove (implying 1 rock wish) + spam with Oleana faster than Diantha 0 b moove (implying no rock wish) + 5 Aaron Def up ?

thin wren
rain copper
#

Have you checked the all clears and pending submission tab

sullen zephyr
#

oh there's a bunch from the ranked event, i think

vast glade
#

Would have gotten more if Cynthia tm refreshed and I got at least one more parahax

sacred badger
#

o-o;

vernal condor
#

For a 5/5 arc cyn it's not that high

sacred badger
#

how high is it now? 7m?

vernal condor
#

dunno

sullen zephyr
vagrant ivy
#

one person got 7m+

sullen zephyr
#

She doesn't gain any boosts to her sync at 4/5 and 5/5, how can the score differ so much

vagrant ivy
#

move levels increase power of moves and sync moves no?

sullen zephyr
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But it's only by a little bit

vagrant ivy
#

well in theory 4/5 can do like 6m too if you look at it that way

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maybe its just that people don't know the team

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since a dozen people total have 6m+ and i can tell you that way more than a dozen people have 4/5 or 5/5 arc cyn

sullen zephyr
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30/330

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10%

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I don't think you can gain an extra 1M with 10%

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Oh there ARE recorded 5M runs

vagrant ivy
#

and the 7m+ person said they had like +42% from skill gears

sullen zephyr
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I want to see peak performance

vagrant ivy
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since they prepped specifically to get 7m on this rotation

icy pendant
#

yeah if you prep gear it shouldn’t be that hard, I did not prep gear at all for ranked and got 5.4 (I haven’t tried too hard this rotation yet so I’m still one sync off ideal)

cunning pond
#

waiting for a top 100 clear score without kanto characters

fluid anvil
cunning pond
#

hm I wonder if bianca can go higher than this setup

1.7m, colress - elio - roxanne runerigus

candid field
#

old data(finally 2nd)
for record

sacred badger
#

hrm 1m.

vagrant ivy
#

nice

sacred badger
#

Dont have lana ooof

vagrant ivy
#

do you have any of the major sync spam units (melony)

cursive linden
sacred badger
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I think ill do uh nc blue, rosa and ss lusamine

cursive linden
#

Is the sing spam worth getting rid of Psychic terrain?

sacred badger
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It was early tbh

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So we might be able to break 2m with ss lusamine

cursive linden
#

I'm going to have my revenge on Ground 3v1 and Steel 3v3

thin wren
#

I am gonna destroy psychic 3v3.

sacred badger
#

We didnt know techs yet

thin wren
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aiming for top 5 minimum

zenith jolt
#

Who’s better between Tornadus Skyla and Tornadus Cheren ?

sacred badger
#

Doesnt anni skyla need setup?

zenith jolt
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Have in mind that Skyla is 5/5 exr and Cheren 3/5 exr

zenith jolt
thin wren
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you usually use them together

cursive linden
#

What's gonna be NC Cheren's teammates for Flying 3v1?

sacred badger
#

Oh hmm anni skyla only wants spd buffs, has soften up

cursive linden
#

Anni Skyla can have NC Blue and Melony as teammates and they're good

sacred badger
#

And interference sync

cursive linden
#

Oh.

zenith jolt
sacred badger
#

Flying zone active for nuke too

zenith jolt
#

So Tcheren is the only one who’ll destroy Flying battle

thin wren
#

yes

cursive linden
#

What's NC Cheren's team?

fluid anvil
#

tbh anni Skyla can get the same score as NC Cheren in DC, maybe even a bit higher

zenith jolt
#

According to the pomatools damage calculator, Skyla makes more damage than Cheren from 2 Times more

thin wren
#

did you give enemies -1 rebuff

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did you consider that interference sync mult won't be active?

zenith jolt
#

Ahh

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Forget the -1 rebuff on cheren makes more sens lmao

thin wren
#

what's next 3v3

cursive linden
#

3v1 will be grass and 3v3 will be flying

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How am i suppose to use this?

sacred badger
thin wren
#

3 dcs left before we get psychic

cursive linden
#

So how are we suppose to get NC Cheren's Cakewalk?

sacred badger
cursive linden
#

Bruh

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Too much time to waste

sacred badger
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Yeah. Anni Skylas kinda better there since u can dump interference sync .-.

cursive linden
#

My Anni Skyla is 1/5 no EXR

sacred badger
#

Oof

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Im gonna go Blue

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Hes got multiple sync damage nodes o.o

lethal siren
#

Chase and melony/elio

cursive linden
#

OG Blue vs NC Cheren with no speed debuff on Sp. Def -2

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Ah wait, i forgot that NC Cheren has PMUN multiplier

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Yeah i'm staying on NC Cheren, his PMUN multiplier is much better to use than his Cakewalk

crude sandal
#

Adam kinda said the best team for him

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BP Barry/NC Cheren/SC Steven

cursive linden
#

Ah yeah, enabling cakewalk at the cost of no sing spam

true locust
#

If you not low speed make no point use him

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Or this nc blue and melony

vapid kernel
lethal siren
#

Anni steven TabithaHehe

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Poor rayquaza

sullen zephyr
#

That 6M clear looks sick

#

Idk how it works

fluid anvil
#

the current top 100 is ~4,2M, damn

sullen zephyr
#

Does Bianca with field give a highe sync boost than nc blue? I think it's +25%, more with other unovans on the team?

normal parcel
true locust
true locust
sullen zephyr
#

I saw them run bianca with colress so no gauge issue

#

But yeah i think lots of flinches are needed to reach 3 syncs with asc
They flinched the first 3 attacks consecutively MonkaScottie

normal parcel
normal parcel
cursive linden
#

uhhh, i don't know

#

But we're supposedly have X Speed all on all stages from now until Ice 3v1

teal harness
#

I've had awful luck with arc cynthia tm refresh, didnt get it once

sullen zephyr
#

i think even just one tm refresh can push me to 4M

sturdy pebble
#

So, which pair do I use as my damage dealer?

teal harness
#

this should do the trick

teal harness
# teal harness this should do the trick

you can also put sands of time 2 instead of surging sand, then you wont need extra energy and neither matters, since they dont buff the sync, they're only there so you can reach haymaker

misty forge
#

Over mpr TM

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It's pretty much a guaranteed 1mil

#

Without any RNG involved as long as you crit half of the targets on average

brave parcel
#

should i use skyla with barry and arcynth

#

for the speed buff

#

nvm i just used sonia

#

um am i supposed to sync spam with 1/5 arcynth

#

i got 360k when i did that

#

but when i spam earthquake i got 500k

copper otter
#

She has to rely on sandstorm, ground zone and her TM which will waste time

#

Oh.... my god.

#

I thought this was #1217072721268314185

brave parcel
#

its okay i am a new player lol

copper otter
brave parcel
#

im just wondering cuz like by the time i have her set up i only have a minute left

copper otter
#

I just woke up from a nap and always see you there so immediately thought that this was new player zone

brave parcel
#

no worries

copper otter
#

But regardless.

Arc cynthia has to focus on her DPS. Her sync isn't the best, but you can't use her DPS until both your support and her have synced.

#

This is so that she can set -2 rebuff for max damage.

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DO NOT USE Sandstom until you sync with her.

brave parcel
#

can i post how ive been doing it

copper otter
#

You should be able to

brave parcel
#

ok lemme do another run rq

#

Its too big is there a diff way for me to send it

copper otter
#

You can use a video compressor

#

There should be one on the google play store that can compress it to be under 25 mbs

#

But there is a team that used Sonia/Melony/Arc Cynthia 1/5, but they need you to have insane para luck to avoid aoe moves like eq and surf

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They got 1.1 mil but they would use Sonia spark to para, then melony to sing fail

vapid kernel
#

So idk

brave parcel
#

ignore the fumble at the end

still hearth
brave parcel
#

he is 3/5

still hearth
#

Then you should get Charging Infliction from his grid

brave parcel
#

wazzat

#

ohhh

#

wait thats busted

still hearth
brave parcel
#

is that infinite gauge

still hearth
#

It basically just gives you back the gauge you used

brave parcel
#

ok ill try it

#

tyvm

#

should i make a whole grid for it or

#

is it okay to just go for that skill and nothing else

still hearth
#

I’m sure it’s fine with just going for that one

brave parcel
#

oddly enough i get the same result

#

just under 600k

copper otter
#

If you're using barry, you don't need Sonia

#

You can swap barry for someone who can provide SEUP or sleep

#

SEUp would be better tho

dry whale
#

I gave it about another hour and a half. Paralysis and dodge luck was not the problem this time around Cynthia just not triggering mp refresh.

The run would ignore the Colress sync for negative accuracy -2 and sync with Cynthia. This sync would not have SandStorm since it would fall off when it truly mattered and would not have the tm since time is already tight.

That 6.5 I did would jump a considerable amount 6.9ish is achievable , 7m if high roles also seem possible.

Maybe I'll try again tomorrow but I got to get started on Gauntlet.

stoic crest
#

What is the best option for this? I have stuff like red lax and champion red too.

#

Please ping me

rain copper
#

Arc Cynthia ís your best option

stoic crest
#

What should I run her with? Colress and uh what else?

rain copper
#

just the usual sync rush strat

stoic crest
#

And she should reach a million?

rain copper
#

at 1/5? i don't think so

#

she has an 1m clear, but with 3/5 SS Gio

thin wren
stoic crest
#

Should I use some combo of those?

sacred badger
#

you can try. save your arc cynthia's TM for her final sync.

cloud timber
#

you'd want to stick to nc blue + melony or at least try that one first

thin wren
#

easy 1 mil

stoic crest
#

And use Cynthia tm

cloud timber
#

yeah should largely be the same as usual, save cynthia's tm for her final sync

stoic crest
#

And what blue grid?

cloud timber
#

shouldn't need to change anything, just try it out

#

i don't own arc cynthia so i don't know any specific details or differences

icy pendant
#

both spammers probably want sand shelter if Cynthia isn’t 3/5

#

that would be the only difference

#

and if you’re going for 4 Cynthia syncs (possible with some paralysis procs) her first sync needs to be outside of sand

stoic crest
icy pendant
#

the same one that gives the individual status immunities

#

it’s the gold listed between the vigilance cookie and the type guard cookie

stoic crest
#

Oh that one

icy pendant
#

yeah I am so bad with the names and colors that I just remember positions

stoic crest
#

I was worried it was purple because that's event only

icy pendant
#

even if it was deluxes, the event those are locked behind is running right now

stoic crest
#

And I'm guessing cake Cynthia?

nova vine
#

Instead of melony, can I use NC Rosa to put them to sleep because of go viral?

#

So a team of NC Rosa, Arc Cynthia, and NC Blue?

icy pendant
#

actually applying sleep is slow

#

Rosa would have an extra proc every time she clicks sing if go viral is gridded which slows things down a lot

nova vine
#

So its better to stick with colress for the usual thunder wave spam?

icy pendant
#

no, Charging Infliction spam is greatly outclassed by sing failing spam

nova vine
#

Ohh ok, ill try that out

icy pendant
#

NC Blue Melony is the top core because a paralyzed opponent cannot be put to sleep, and Melony is the most beneficial carrier of the move Sing

thin wren
#

nc blue also gives teamwide speed

#

so the gauge heavy sing spam can be maintained

nova vine
#

I skipped quite a few of the damage challenges so I was still using colress/redlax core

Didnt know there was a better one overall, where can I find the grids for melony and nc blue?

thin wren
cloud timber
#

and blue just wants hostile environment and the defense drops on sync along with speed tiles

nova vine
#

Appreciate the help

sullen zephyr
#

I got a tm refresh but got a lower score than an unoptimal run without refresh
Wtf

#

Ok it makes sense this time. Idk what happened in the previous run.

cloud timber
#

nice

unique abyss
zenith jolt
#

I think in damage potential, Kyurem N is better than Articuno Red, but in the DC case, there’s too many condition for KN to makes his best damage

#

But in comparaison it’s about the double or more damage than Articuno Red

thin wren
#

What SSN's mults again

thin wren
sacred badger
zenith jolt
#

This Time I double Check it

sacred badger
#

and demoralizing sync 6

#

5/5 for soften up though ooof.

zenith jolt
#

For SSN

thin wren
#

why peak readiness? were there no better tiles

rain copper
#

even if SS N had better nuke than Red, his multipliers are awkward to setup

#

and NC Red has better nuke than him anyway

sacred badger
#

dirty sync is easy enough (if you're running paralyze easy.) , -1 atk down on opponent == demoralizing sync 6 is going all out (if you're running zapdos, -1 ATK aoe). the only thing would be the the rest of the atk buff to -6 hm.

#

thankfully his kit doesnt say "Needs to be frozen for damage" like Holiday Leon (ooof)

#

any status conditions is pretty nice

vast glade
#

Took several resets but RGN finally gave me refresh on Cynthia TM + two paralyzes that allowed me to use the B-move

royal jolt
#

i am so ready for single Grass T~T

zenith jolt
#

MF Adaman Will carry this one right ? 😃

copper otter
#

yea, he will be the best

#

I won't have adaman, so I'll suffer with Erika or something

icy pendant
#

Don’t say that when you still have daily scout pulls left! Hopium

misty forge
copper otter
#

you act like I'm talking about Leafeon.

glossy atlas
#

D:

copper otter
#

GladionSip just gotta replicate this

cloud timber
royal jolt
#

the peasants will have to make do with SS Erika

#

( I am a peasant )

crude sandal
#

Cries in 1/5 Adaman

royal jolt
#

2/5 for me

crude sandal
#

I'm getting ready for flying 3v3 this Friday

#

Since I just spent my candies on NC Cheren

long silo
#

I'm ready to burn the kitchen on Friday

#

But first SS Erika time

trim venture
#

hi can someone explain how the sing spam tactic works on melony

long silo
#

Pin has the stuff

cloud timber
#

basic gist is it's similar to bp barry/colress spam but melony doesn't have any passive required to spam so it saves time each use

#

so you use it on a paralyzed target with enough gauge and you get more syncs

crude sandal
#

Sing spam requires gauge management like speed buffs, MGA and/or field MGA

lethal siren
#

Single grass

long silo
#

SS Erika stonks

trim venture
cloud timber
#

pretty much yeah

trim venture
#

I can't figure out why I can't make more than two sync moves happen though

crude sandal
trim venture
#

(i think so?)

#

If by spam you mean using it off cooldown

cloud timber
#

if you're using colress with melony you have to be pretty careful with swapping between twave and sing to maximize sing usage without running out of gauge

#

and with arc cynthia you also need to make sure your spammers are sand immune

trim venture
#

(what does that mean)

boreal warren
#

sand shelter

cloud timber
#

ideally you have nc blue for gauge but sonia can work too

trim venture
#

Is it the one with blastoise

cloud timber
#

zapdos

boreal warren
#

zapdos

trim venture
#

Oop nope idts

trim venture
#

I don't think i have either of them so welp this is an issue

true locust
#

5/5 arc cynthia 1m?

#

Im crying😭

#

Just use bp barry and corles

#

Corles low def all and bary spam

trim venture
#

i dont have barry either i have played for a month and a half... I can get him from the shop?

cloud timber
#

battle points exchange

boreal warren
#

exchange, its under BP

cloud timber
#

also with 5/5 they prob have dust kicker on

#

don't use that one for dc

trim venture
#

Oh will i not be using eq?

#

CLk_CryCat oh my god I'm so bad at this I don't even know what I don't know

cloud timber
#

don't use b move until the very end when you can't fit more syncs and you want to set sand manually

sacred badger
#

your gimmick is essentially... use sync moves to get the damage in.

#

bmove is only at the last move.

#

i'd save your TM for your final sync.

#

but if you want to get more points with a refresh, you can do it.

trim venture
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sadflop ok i will take that out of my sync grid and try again (?)

trim venture
true locust
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Its not possible so low

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This is grid wat need be used

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Sync barry he need be ex

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Then cynthia

trim venture
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i dont have enough resources to ex barry i think

true locust
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Then rest sync whit cynthia sand storm and use tm befor last

trim venture
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should i use something else then

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i have made him 140

true locust
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Barry need 3/5

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For free move spam

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Even no ex you should do way more then this

trim venture
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hes 1/5

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can i only buy one copy of him?

true locust
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This unlock only on 3/5

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He is realy good unit for dc

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So worth it

trim venture
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ok i used all my tickets he is barely 3/5

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what am I trying to spam again-

cloud timber
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charging infliction stun spore

normal parcel
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Because is what they did (there's no way og Erika scores 1m)

versed shale
scenic grotto
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Why are there only two clear submissions?

vernal condor
versed shale
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People are probably just busy with LG and stuff, and it’s also pretty similar to the ranked DC

scenic grotto
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Right
I should be able to get more than 600k with original Cynthia but it looks like everyone is using Arc Cynthia
But I don’t have Arc Cynthia because the 5/5 Cynthia I have already is good enough for ground weak stages

sacred badger
cloud timber
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i'm lazy about directly submitting but i have that

scenic grotto
vernal condor
sacred badger
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base cynthia? :D~

vernal condor
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Oh paulo has sand extension

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that explains it

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It just tried using og cynthia but barely could get 600k lol

cloud timber
vernal condor
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Despite 5 EX +10E 😭 but paulo is a great partner for her

cloud timber
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yeah i have the paulo + aaron combo ready for anything that happens to want sand

scenic grotto
royal jolt
scenic grotto
long silo
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Besides SSA Cynthia, are there other potential partner for Aaron spammer

cloud timber
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paulo and ss morty

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nothing else is really contributing more than getting aaron to spam quicker

long silo
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Hmmm

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I'll check SS Morty then

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Maybe he can be used for double Support Sync

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This is supposedly for ranked DC next week but thinking about it SS Erika might actually be able to use this

vernal condor
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it's always better to have aaron do 5 defend order at worse and have your other support actually bring more damage, than having your support enable aaron spam

long silo
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Too bad I have no Paulo

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I assume he is used best with Diantha?

vernal condor
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?

long silo
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Was asking who are potential 3rd unit if my spammer is Aaron

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Who's not SSAC

vernal condor
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why diantha tho

long silo
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Initially I asked this in context of Ranked DC (ST Rock)