#Damage Challenge
true locust
vernal condor
i just sub to everyone who made dc or solo related content
long silo
I should upload more
Is there a Dojo Gloria on doc? (I'm on mobile)
I was planning to upload a 3v3 Fighting, but I did not get my ideal run, and the stage already transitioned 
vernal condor
there's 1
pallid girder
No SS Hilbert DPS record yet.
normal parcel
I guess SS Hilbert/NC lance can work too
Leaf won't be a good pick since she's the best for fire weak
long silo
Used Larry + Melony with Dojo Gloria for sync
normal parcel
Maybe arc Steven could work too with Aaron, but Aaron is already taken for the no status stage
pallid girder
I guess SS Hilbert/NC lance can work too
I feel no support sync at all hurt.
normal parcel
I feel no support sync at all hurt.
Support should be the spammer
fluid anvil
ss hilbert (or any -2 SpDef AoE debuffer really - like Variety Thorton etc.) works instead of Yarrdenia, but he is worse obv.
AS lance seems too slow for 3v3 ghost. I would even take Lenora over him
warped gulch
Used Larry + Melony with Dojo Gloria for sync
I just want to do funny dps with her tho, how many points you have from Sync Rushing ?
long silo
Around 1.7m
warped gulch
Nice
nova remnant
Yeah got the same pts too
pallid girder
Oh you didn't mean together.
fluid anvil
Maybe arc Steven could work too with Aaron, but Aaron is already taken for the n...
AS steven is also pretty slow (6 actions needed, 3 of them B-moves), and AS steven + Aaron would not have enough gauge to spam defend order anyway IMO
really just Lenora (with BP Barry) is best IMO, if no Yarrdenia
pallid girder
FIono + Colress will work but with longer spdef debuff setup.
fluid anvil
F.Iono + Colress work yeah. you get (a lot) slower spdef debuffing than Yarrdenia and no free Field ghost zone, but -1 AoE rebuff instead
the ghost arc pair will probably be a much stronger version of F.Iono
long silo
Would be hilarious if FIono becomes just the prototype
cloud timber
oh wow 2 syncs
vapid kernel
Maybe 5/5 cerena?
ivory kestrel
I had to give Adrenaline to Archie to make my life easier 
zenith jolt
What do you think about those team, blue champ 3/5, Leaf champ 3/5 both exr
Giratina 3/5 Will be exr
Diantha still 1/5 no exr but Will probably be 3/5 exr, Red Snorlax 3/5 exr
vapid kernel
https://youtu.be/TuMV6Ty1rNU?si=LbNgqYF9gcomn7Kh
That shaking peacock feathers is very distracting
fluid anvil
for the ghost team with Lenora you need to use BP barry instead of COlress
since Barry has Supp EX
zenith jolt
What do you think about those team, blue champ 3/5, Leaf champ 3/5 both exr
Gir...
Maybe for the Rock one, Oleana instead of Aaron and/or SC Steven instead of Red (Aaron is good because it able + 6 def and spe def without b move Diancie (and without use a lose Rock wish)
zenith jolt
for the ghost team with Lenora you need to use BP barry instead of COlress
since...
It’s an option, should I just Sync with Lenora then spam Giratina instead of 2 sync Support then Giratina ?
fluid anvil
no point in syncing with Lenora ever
Barry EX, than Giratina
wait, Lenora is support or not?
I forgot
fluid anvil
oh yeah she is. Hmm.
tbh in this case I'm not sure if 1 Supp EX or 2 Supp EX is better .. depends on how many syncs total you have
try both maybe
Colress has AoE para, thats good
zenith jolt
oh yeah she is. Hmm.
tbh in this case I'm not sure if 1 Supp EX or 2 Supp EX is ...
Yeah there will be many try However, maybe new strat so far
pallid girder
Is it Oleana the best spam choice back in dragon st w no status rule?
fluid anvil
he might be better than Barry then. Since you already have 1 SuppEX
zenith jolt
Is it Oleana the best spam choice back in dragon st w no status rule?
Yeah she was, but now she is 3/5 no exr, and Diancie need +6 spe def, but she cant do it by her own without waste a rock wish and 3b move (time lose)
zenith jolt
he might be better than Barry then. Since you already have 1 SuppEX
That’s what I think also
zenith jolt
Is it Oleana the best spam choice back in dragon st w no status rule?
But it’s not clear, I thought about Nihilego exr 3/5 but it’s worse than Diancie shiny
zenith jolt
Its so far awau
So this time I can make good invest
I failed top 20 about 3 places (top 23) won’t lose this chance lmao
vapid kernel
Ic
fluid anvil
I dont really care about any of the remaining DC stages tbh (except to see if Arc Cynthia can break 7 Mil)
ranked this time seems more fun, since I have all the pairs
zenith jolt
This ranked will be so poor beside the Previous one lmao
The best score is 4M with Leaf
zenith jolt
For what we had
pallid girder
SS Diantha is most certainly gonna be the best dd. My question is more about what the best teammate she can get w/o sing spam.
zenith jolt
5M for fire, 4M for Ghost and 3.5M for Rock that are my guess
So 12.5M for top 1 I think maybe
Since we don’t have Arc suits
fluid anvil
3.5M rock 3v1 ? no chance, 2,5M at best, maybe just 2M without sing spam
pallid girder
Fire can do 5M?
fluid anvil
and NC Leaf is 4M+, not 5M
zenith jolt
3.5M rock 3v1 ? no chance, 2,5M at best, maybe just 2M without sing spam
My bad forgot yeah Even lower lmao
zenith jolt
and NC Leaf is 4M+, not 5M
On the best scenario i talk about
fluid anvil
I dont think Nc leaf can do 5M in any scenario
we didnt have any 3v1 score get close to 5M yet
maybe Arc Lance can do it on the normal 3v1 stage
zenith jolt
I’m really excited for the next arc suit who’ll be in the Spotlight for a Super sparing lmao
zenith jolt
I dont think Nc leaf can do 5M in any scenario
we didnt have any 3v1 score get c...
Maybe, I Hope she can’t so it wouldn’t be rng ++++ and Skill Gear god
fluid anvil
realistically the top score is 10-10,5M+ .. maybe up to 11M
zenith jolt
realistically the top score is 10-10,5M+ .. maybe up to 11M
But the Precious 12m was the experted score, and it goes up to 16M no ? Or more ?
I mean we are not safe broken stats lmao
fluid anvil
previous was expected to be 17-18M from the start
and it ended at 17,2M or something
zenith jolt
Imagine datamine for November, broken duo for Rock drops the 30th lmao impossible
zenith jolt
previous was expected to be 17-18M from the start
Ah
Well man, I Hope you are right, I’m able to do the 12M I think lmao so if it’s the max 🙏🏻
pallid girder
Technivally at first we don't know how sandstorm will hinder ArcCynthia's score but it turns out she doesn't care and do 6M under sand lol.
vagrant ivy
8 digits will be really rare given the rock ST param but I won’t doubt the power of gears and rng
vagrant ivy
Technivally at first we don't know how sandstorm will hinder ArcCynthia's score ...
well 3/5 she does have a multiplier that boosts sync under sand
so even if you lose a sync that kinda makes up for it
obviously arc tiles too
cloud timber
no chase but i still got it to here
fluid anvil
that cracked TM is the main reason that Arc Cynthia got 6,7M+. its possibly the single best TM in the game for DC mode
and of course having her own zone and rebuffs
pallid girder
Btw will NC Red be outclassed by exr SSN?
fluid anvil
Btw will NC Red be outclassed by exr SSN?
Nah
cursive linden
no chase but i still got it to here
What in the flying fuck
Him????
And that's 3/5
5/5 with double rebuff would make him go 1M, i believe
pallid girder
And always crit sync
SS N has Soften up. But errr why is his innate atk down not para? It makes him way harder to setup...
cloud timber
yea a couple people with chase have made 3/5 ss hilbert pass 1m
fluid anvil
Atk Down is one of the worst sync multipliers, maybe even worse than Kekwalk
true locust
Soft up not mean you always crit
cloud timber
no brainpower or rebuff but here's origin pulse archie, ss kris to carry gauge through misses and get rid of shower sync for rainy propulsion
oh larry's passive actually works here too
fluid anvil
you will probably need to spam a bunch of discharges on 3/5 nc blue to set up SS Ns sync
normal parcel
Soft up not mean you always crit
As long as you can get +2 crit, soften up mean guaranteed sync crit
fluid anvil
or bring SC steven ? idk, he doesnt seem that great in DC these days, dont see him used much at all
pallid girder
I misrmb his sync multiplier as innate para + grid tile -1 atk & -1 spatk, which is way easier to setup compared to his real multiplier.
vernal condor
Maybe 5/5 cerena?
No they have a 2/5 serena if you check their profile
they used dahlia
cloud timber
vernal condor
tf is larry doing
cloud timber
rebuff and gauge
copper otter
....at that point why not just put Melony instead?
fluid anvil
No they have a 2/5 serena if you check their profile
thats good detective work
so Dahlia gets 6,3M in 3v3 and ~3,5M in 3v1, insane
vernal condor
they go dps mode
cloud timber
already did melony, trying something different
vernal condor
thats good detective work
so Dahlia gets 6,3M in 3v3 and ~3,5M in 3v1, insane
factor in op gears ngl
like, give me a 5/5 serena and proper gears and I get top 1 
fluid anvil
I think Arc Cynthia can also get close to 3,5M in 3v1 Ground. You get less enemy attacks, so more time for TMs and/or even an extra sync
pallid girder
No they have a 2/5 serena if you check their profile
I just checked and it's 4/5 Cerena, not 2/5.
normal parcel
I think the best serena score is with 3/5 Serena (with insane gears) while I'm pretry sure the best dalhia score is with 5/5
true locust
As long as you can get +2 crit, soften up mean guaranteed sync crit
Oleana on ranked poison whit soft up one time not crit
Not sure how then
vernal condor
thats good detective work
so Dahlia gets 6,3M in 3v3 and ~3,5M in 3v1, insane
so yeah actually they have a 4/5 serena now, dunno if i missread yesterday or if they candied but that means they probably used serena with op gears, and not dahlia with bs rng
pallid girder
Yes it's hard to tell is it really Dahila or 4/5 Cerena.
true locust
Dahlia can score only this high
In water i could score even 7m whit better gears and all sync crits
vernal condor
Serena can definitely reach 3.5m
true locust
Just rng dahlia is too high
vernal condor
with proper gears and 4/5 it's not out of the question
fluid anvil
Dahlia can definitely got 3,5M or even a bit higher, but the rng needed is insane:
- evasion and/or para misses - you want to get 7 syncs total (5 Dahlia syncs)
- Chase evasion dodges to skip his bleed
- sync crits
- SEUNs fishing for her syncs
fluid anvil
5 is better than 4 🙂 .. but if you fishing for SEUN, then 5 maybe not possible
true locust
This is problem
vernal condor
any time you don't dodge you waste time from the move but also the confusion animation
fluid anvil
oh yea and also forgot - confusion rng too 
vernal condor
dahlia is too hard to use
true locust
Yeap too hard
vernal condor
i really doubt top 1 used dahlia
hearty canopy
Does this challenge need physical? Like is 5/5 Nessa, 1/5 SS Grimsley or 4/5 Kris going to outscore 5/5 May or 1/5 Lysandre. Seems Nessa is best choice from spreadsheet
true locust
Nobody have it easy way
fluid anvil
Dahlia = rng heavy is lore accurate 
cloud timber
nessa is best yeah
pallid girder
Does this challenge need physical? Like is 5/5 Nessa, 1/5 SS Grimsley or 4/5 Kri...
Physical and special doesn't matter in dc at all.
It's just May and ofc most 1/5 striker suck in dc.
lapis yarrow
Will Oleana be the play for next DC?
fluid anvil
SS roxie
cloud timber
physical is generally worse off bc nc blue and chase don't buff it if you need attack buffs and there's no physical equivalent for them
fluid anvil
physical only has Colress and SC steven
pallid girder
My guess: SS Roxie > Klara > Geeta > the rest.
cloud timber
yea just the debuffs which aren't too great through mitigation
pseudo stag
Just got ss misty to 3/5 today, is she easy to set up for dc??
cloud timber
if you have chase, yes
fluid anvil
technically Ariana has a big Tech+Strike poison sync, but her set-up is uuh
pseudo stag
Then no lol
cloud timber
yeah no
pallid girder
It only applies to units suck at self buffing, which is not the case for many modern strikers.
In fact the currently highest number is from a physical striker.
cloud timber
ye at peak level all the best physical stuff can fully set up themselves
it's more when you go to the lower end that things get more dire
but also sst red suffers badly when his tm is tied to gradual healing
team-wide
fluid anvil
Arc Cynthia is kind of an exception with her overtuned kit (not to mention she still used NC blue)
SS Gladion
Dahlia
SS Hau
NC Red
^ all these are special.
But its more about the kits being good in DC and having the best supporting units, rather than special vs physical
and nc blue is special, but he rarely ever uses him TM in DC. Its about para + speed buffs + spdef/def debuffs on sync
vernal condor
technically Ariana has a big Tech+Strike poison sync, but her set-up is uuh
sc steven, her and melony?
steven sets up relentless and power play, and herself can poison and trap everyone
poison and trap waste time but with that team the setup isnt that bad
fluid anvil
trap and poison
long silo
Does she necessarily need trap?
I don't have her so idk her kit but is it trap or just interference
vernal condor
interf sync 5
long silo
Does restraint count there
vernal condor
no
long silo
Well rip
pallid girder
Yes it's mostly about kit not physical/special.
Also for some reason our uber striker or tech + ex striker are mostly special.
vernal condor
because dena likes to gatekeep special stuff towards limited units, and make free/spotlight pairs physical
vagrant ivy
got the 6 syncs all crit run
extreme rng needed, they have to miss like 4-5 times
prop 3 needs to proc on haze
normal parcel
Oleana on ranked poison whit soft up one time not crit
Maybe you forgot to pick soften up, or you had no crit buffs, as far as I know I never failed a crit with a soften up unit as long as I have +2 crit
true locust
Oleana tm give 3 crit
And i got it
Its say crit land more easy not it will always be crit
So if this would make always they could say about it too
normal parcel
but also sst red suffers badly when his tm is tied to gradual healing
Sst red basically fits in the category (it doesn't have self buffs)
normal parcel
Yes elio is the key, since NC blue only buffs special attack
cloud timber
actually not going to push this over 1m rn but that should prove it can
vernal condor
impressive
pallid girder
Bc it's NOT always crit. It still NEEDS +2 crit buff.
I rmb someone do a test with Soften Up ex striker and sync 10 or so times and all sync crit, which the chance of this happen if it's not sure crit at +2 is almost impossible.
cloud timber
it is guaranteed, very possible that soften up was accidentally ungridded that run
or forgot to crit buff
pallid girder
Glad we have Archie enjoyers who try to push Archie's best!
vernal condor
archie would really need an overhaul
misty forge
Its say crit land more easy not it will always be crit
Soften up turns sync crit from -1 to +1
So +2 crit is always crit
And +3 crit same
cloud timber
so many things go completely unused with sync spam, master passives, larry rebuff passive boost, less chance to proc super rain and no use for rainy propulsion
it's good to get a chance to use all of it
true locust
Maybe visual glitch score?
cloud timber
very likely
vernal condor
it's good to get a chance to use all of it
it's just a different way to play the game lol
misty forge
Maybe visual glitch score?
It might've been visually wrong but still crit
pallid girder
Did anyone do Archie's regular move spam back in 3v3?
vernal condor
He was only used with serena back then
true locust
Archie have super up next
true locust
You spam archie moves?
pallid girder
If only Archies spatk is a bit higher...
vernal condor
more spa and better grid
cloud timber
could have fit in one last origin pulse if i didn't go back to max speed after that sync
didn't expect to be cutting it that close to 1m at all
fallen trail
did you try c serena/clavell/bp barry?
vernal condor
it's definitely worse than the melony archie team
vagrant ivy
what does clavell do
pseudo stag
how well does clavell perform in dc at 1/5
vernal condor
not
normal parcel
so many things go completely unused with sync spam, master passives, larry rebuf...
There are still some units that make use of master passives (SS gladion, NC Marnie, NC Nate, NC Silver to name some)
normal parcel
Yes immagine needing an unit that can score 3m to break 1m with Archie
However in the 3m score Archie is still a core part of the team
sturdy pebble
What can I do here...
ivory kestrel
Tried this comp for fun
rain copper
What can I do here...
The usual NC Blue + Melony core with NC Serena should break 1mil easily
glossy token
field sprint water
wait isnt he sprint field not field sprint
couldve sworn he had the innate
glossy token
sry i thought the other day we were discussing how the order does impact the value bc of innate multipliers
vernal condor
Yeah sprint field is always better than field sprint
fallen trail
field sprint dont even exist yet
it would be better in a scenario where you’re syncing and haven’t met the condition for the innate
which is why would you ever
cursive linden
What's the best team comp for Poison 3v3?
cursive linden
field sprint dont even exist yet
The world would be better if it just never exists
sacred badger
30% chancee.... naah i think i'd rather be able to hit 4 SEUN and above.
ivory kestrel
Gooo Archie!
cursive linden
You don't want her MPR?
sacred badger
30%.... ooof.
warped gulch
poison immediately and colress gaming :D~
And Colress?, you want Def Debuff ?
sacred badger
its why i'm gonona be running redlax
warped gulch
Bc poison already drains too much time
cursive linden
30%.... ooof.
30% from Geeta AND 30% from Red
sacred badger
we'll have to see
warped gulch
4 Sync just impossible for that team if you even want to Debuff Def
sacred badger
if you don't poison, you wont be able to use geeta's bmove in case you run out of zone
sacred badger
its either that
sacred badger
or i run Ariana
cursive linden
Toxic Power 5 is just too good to be left behind
warped gulch
And then you try to debuff Def too
rain copper
sacred badger
mmhmm
sacred badger
despai
warped gulch
Greta just really slow
sacred badger
o.o
sacred badger
what about ss roxie?
cursive linden
I don't have her
warped gulch
Thing that makes you lose time with Geeta:
- Poison Zone on entry
- B Move animation
- Poison Zone when you use B Move
- Long animation from her Tm
- Poison 3 Enemy
cursive linden
lemme check her gimmick
cursive linden
Tech Strike
sacred badger
paralyze is easier too hrm
cursive linden
Yeah of course she's better
Looking at her grid, you kinda want SST Red to be her teammate
copper otter
Watching Poce constantly getting bombarded by advice to sing spam fail and resfusing to do so is peak content
sacred badger
wow
lletsee.... innate, sync induction 9 (wew), poison zone
that's about it
oh she has to use gmax to set poison zone though hrm
cursive linden
That's still more than Geeta's multiplier, no?
warped gulch
oh she has to use gmax to set poison zone though hrm
Her Poison Zone last very good amount of time
cursive linden
Oh, Geeta's attacks always crit
warped gulch
And she has 1 in her grid too
cursive linden
And Roxie doesn't
sacred badger
geeta's on haymaker, surecrrit, poisonzone and poisoned sync 3 hmm
cursive linden
so good luck with that
warped gulch
geeta's on haymaker, surecrrit, poisonzone and poisoned sync 3 hmm
Remember Roxie is Tech/Striker, which is way better than Field/Striker
sacred badger
yep
fluid anvil
SS roxie >> geeta for poison 3v3
cursive linden
Oh.
fallen trail
i hav. emma 
cursive linden
Uhhh
cursive linden
Her TM is shit
sacred badger
Wew.
sacred badger
yeah
vagrant ivy
chat looker or plumeria for f2p
cursive linden
I only have her 2/5 nonEXR
vagrant ivy
my money is on looker but I won’t ex him in time
cursive linden
So i had rather go with Geeta
vagrant ivy
sacred badger
her multipliers are kinda bad though. only inertia, and virulent toxin 2
fallen trail
ss roxie is rerunning this month in time for the dc but shes sharing a banner with ss n who i have 5/5 and if i get an extra copy of i will be salty
sacred badger
this is actually kinda funny
sturdy pebble
Geeta gaming 
cursive linden
So
sacred badger
i think i'll go with geeta foor this
cursive linden
SS Roxie >> Geeta >> Emma
cursive linden
Which Plumeria
sacred badger
gen pool one
cursive linden
warped gulch
And his Tm gives SEUN anyway
warped gulch
plumeria's better with inertia and surecrit
No, she worse
Bc her low SpA stats
But she’ll get more Sync than Looker bc she can dodge
true locust
warped gulch
While Looker can go with Colress and all in dmg with -6 Def and SEUN
true locust
The best team is chase oleana and roxie
true locust
Yes and no
vapid kernel
Spam metal sound?
cursive linden
Yes and no
Wdym?
true locust
If you have 5/5 its easy to do
vapid kernel
poison immediately and colress gaming :D~
Use 2 of her b move same duration and 3 screech i think
true locust
If 3/5 need alot timming perfect moove gauge mprs luck
So way more hard
But can be done
cursive linden
Such a waste of resource but uhhhh
vernal condor
Spam metal sound?
its not spammable
true locust
Yeap
sacred badger
Use 2 of her b move same duration and 3 screech i think
Her bmove drops def aoe -3 no?
true locust
Yes
But its take alot time since set zone
Just roxie thanks too no sync is boost from poison its the best
3 mons use move when poison its painfful
Poison hail and sand the worst things in dc mode🫢📲
fallen trail
reset roxie max move until she gets para x3
1/8 chance
not totally unreasonable
though g max stun shock will do 0 damage…
vapid kernel
Well Geeta i can also just skip defrnse drops
Only x1.3 for all the time used
Better do Melony and Red
brazen dew
How much would last b move with 10 pmun and seun do?
vapid kernel
He has less multipliers than Kris right
vapid kernel
shower power 4
Tjat wud break 2M then ?
fallen trail
10% stronger syncs
uhh maybe
i think bp barry, c serena, and clavell can score similarly to the colress/arc steven/anni2 lillie steel clear
its just a matter of trying it
open grotto
If I’m going to use may, should I use turns for muddy water or skip and just use melony sing for sing spam?
true locust
not using his personal cookie?
I never check personal cookies
thin wren
did clavell do anything
lethal siren
Do we get virulent toxin on salazzle?
Only inertia won't work?
copper otter
did clavell do anything
1.2 Mil from a 400K B move
normal parcel
which is why would you ever
Maybe the innate is flinch/freeze
fallen trail
freeze innate is only on a single pair
normal parcel
Sleep at least is usable since at least there are lots of guaranteed sleep units
pallid girder
Imagine an unit with flinch and freeze multipliers at the same time; that'll be so stu... oh we have one.
normal parcel
Summer Steven?
I mean summer Steven still makes way more sense than summer Lyra, (clock out and sleep based sync multiplier with no sing)
Clock out puts the target to sleep after damage so rude awakening can't proc, and if the target is already asleep clock out doesn't nothing
The 1st 2 summer units definitely have conflicting kits
pallid girder
Well for SLyra you can say Clock out can help trigger Good Night-mare (regular move multiplier), but yeah her sync can't benefit from it at all.
Flinch and freeze can't coexist is the "doesn't make sense" part for SSteven's 2 multipliers.
lethal siren
I saw a video of around 1.5m with clavell in which he didn't crit in one sync so 1.7k max
Wait
true locust
Yeap clavell can maks do 1,7m around
lethal siren
Any dc Barry?
true locust
Im not use him my 1/5
Only skipp are rival fun maybe he do it or not?
Maks wat could do:)
delicate junco
Huh...i wonder if seibold is good here
Just looked at his grid and like dang
Self proccing seun, double down 5, brain sync...
lethal siren
We could use nc serena, one more dps and melony as serena gives speed to team
Can ss lysandre work in that way?
lethal siren
Nc Serena
Ss lysandre are not F2p
My Serena is 1/5 so I want to try this thing
Lysandre can burn
Little less promising but fine
pallid girder
SS lysandre did 1M with SS Kris + Melony.
No one really try DC Barry afaik.
lethal siren
SS lysandre did 1M with SS Kris + Melony.
No one really try DC Barry afaik.
Is there any video
pallid girder
Cerena's bmove prob will eat more time and also lack the SMUN you want to stack for SS Lys' Bmove.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TtU1_juWSo
from Invert.
lethal siren
4/5
royal jolt
it's sad how I don't use Emma because I have Geeta now
vernal condor
vapid kernel
<:WeezingLFG:920920558164664390>
Nice profile picture
Also why is nobody except me using variety lyra
Im doing it for yalls since everyones too lazy to do the Marlon clear
copper otter
Lazy or not insane enough?
civic island
Misty next, blind spot+innate 
vernal condor
misty got like 350k i believe
vapid kernel
Misty next, blind spot+innate <:VoloStonks:1257757438354919545>
I alrdy submitted one
vapid kernel
misty got like 350k i believe
Yes thats mine
Misty scored higher than Wallace
Wallace can be officially demoted to a 3 star
cloud timber
yea misty can enable her own multiplier that actually saves more time than it takes, or it can
cloud timber
oh that explains it
royal jolt
why hasn't that girl gotten an EX?
boreal warren
got 1mil mix leaf but the recording failed and messed up my phone 
i’ll try to redo
royal jolt
ugh, I feel that. A lot of my recordings of previous DCs have been lost to stuff like that
royal jolt
looks legit to me
delicate junco
Marlon did 1M
Lodge may next
royal jolt
to make Techs more unique
is the 1.5x not enough?
misty forge
SS Blue also has innate
Wait that's one even I didn't know about
royal jolt
he has Towering Force innate iirc?
vapid kernel
SS Blue also has innate
Leme do it next
lusty galleon
is the 1.5x not enough?
that's the thing, Techs are "nukers"
misty forge
he has Towering Force innate iirc?
Yea
lusty galleon
Tech = ST nuker, Strike = AoE nuker, Support are more power for others
misty forge
I knew about most of them
Like, skyla, misty, Marley, Marlon, Cheren or Lyra
And dawn
lusty galleon
Hop
lusty galleon
nor SS Elesa...
misty forge
As dogs get the vs Dynamax boost
royal jolt
Lyra's sucks so bad
vapid kernel
Like, skyla, misty, Marley, Marlon, Cheren or Lyra
I didnt know about Skyla and Cheren omg
Lyra nuke is very good actually
misty forge
Lyra's sucks so bad
Eh, it's fine, it's rising tide
You definitely feel it when you're max buffed
vapid kernel
Lyra can wipe bars in legendary gaunflet
misty forge
^
misty forge
I didnt know about Skyla and Cheren omg
Cherens is so bad....
royal jolt
Lyra strike EXR?
misty forge
I tried it with Palmer
Hits like a wet towel (yes I was statused, with zone)
It still did like 8-9k
At best
That's 1/6-7th of palmers
royal jolt
I want Palmer so bad
misty forge
I played with him for 6 months
Beaten every single csmm stage at 3k even before 3k was a thing
After that barely used him no more because no new tools
(no interest in Larry or Anabel)
misty forge
After that barely used him no more because no new tools
The peak was him soloing the Giovanni EBE that had Sinnoh theme
Boost
Very funny
lusty galleon
I want Palmer so bad
there was a banner for that...
royal jolt
I could've chosen him from the select, but does he want 3/5 to be funny?
misty forge
I could've chosen him from the select, but does he want 3/5 to be funny?
Definitely
EXr too possibly
royal jolt
I could've chosen him from the select, but does he want 3/5 to be funny?
@lusty galleon lol
lusty galleon
as much as I like Regigigas... I just save more
Normal types are doomed offensively...
vernal condor
lusty galleon
maybe for Normal HSE
misty forge
Normal types are doomed offensively...
Wait for normal arc
Ig
Hopefully it's not some bs like Elaine or Leaf
🤢
misty forge
Wait for normal arc
-2 rebuff, infinite zone and MUNs trust the plan
normal parcel
Marlon did 1M
Marlon can definitely score 1m (in a team with NC Serena nuking)
royal jolt
Normal DC will bring out my Tackle DPS Leaf
normal parcel
Normal DC can't exist, nothing is weak to normal
vernal condor
ghost, rock and steel are in invert battles 🤓
misty forge
Normal DC can't exist, nothing is weak to normal
Well nothing is immune to 17/18 types aside 3-4 extreme cases either
They can literally make a stage be only susceptible to normal damage
If they WANT to
Just like they made cresselia counter any try of making arcCynthia beat her
It's all up to DeNa
vapid kernel
Normal DC will bring out my Tackle DPS Leaf
Normal ST = Eve supremacy
royal jolt
Oh right
Forgot about her
normal parcel
Eve doesn't have ex
normal parcel
Does Whitney have ex?
normal parcel
I meant milktank
misty forge
(it's interf sync, but don't mention that part)
vernal condor
no(t yet)
normal parcel
We haven't gotten fire AoE yet right
Yes we did
royal jolt
Speaking of nukes
Shout out to Lisia for cucking herself out of a Dragon Zone multiplier
misty forge
It's so funny how in 2019 we had a striker with CS1 for 12 energy and 380 base atk
And in 2021 we got a support with cs3 for 7 energy and 280 base atk
misty forge
Speaking of nukes
Shout out to Lisia for cucking herself out of a Dragon Zone mu...
To be fair, zone was probably something they didn't even consider back then
Damn 4 years since Lisia
30/10/2020
Wild
royal jolt
Unironically one of my favorite nukes to use
Just wish she was more powerful
normal parcel
I still have her 4/5
misty forge
Aw, no lemon costume
royal jolt
I cannot stand that outfit 😭
normal parcel
For DC lacking dragon zone multiplier isn't a big deal since the dragon zone units generally are better nukers (unless not 3/5+)
Problem with Lisa is that she lacks the multipliers and mega tax hurts
royal jolt
That's true
But, I gotta be honest, even if I did have Lucas at 3/5, I don't think I'd have more fun using him
vapid kernel
This is embarassing for Blue
royal jolt
Ofc I'll hit harder. And, to some, that's all that matters, but I won't enjoy it as much
vapid kernel
Hes scoring lower than Marlon and just saved because of two Hydro Cannons
royal jolt
This is embarassing for Blue
Give him another spontaneous buff
vernal condor
tbh blue might as well spam hydro cannon
normal parcel
Hes scoring lower than Marlon and just saved because of two Hydro Cannons
Marlon doesn't have mega bp
misty forge
Also blue has actually good dps
So yea
Spamming hydro better than doing last sync
Imo
vernal condor
I mean
normal parcel
Blue sync sucks because it has mega
(and Isn't supposed to really do damage)
Not sure if it has less ark than marlon
Definitely less sync bp
royal jolt
You heard it here first, folks
Sygna Suit Blue is now WORSE than Marlon
This'll shake up tier lists somewhat dramatically 😵💫
cloud timber
some tests
normal parcel
I mean NC calem is weaker than marlon too
cloud timber
melony runs out of gauge and you need them for hydro pumps, elio could fit in a couple more of those
also no chase here
normal parcel
Chase definitely helps with Blindspot
royal jolt
You think Chase could squeeze out even more?
royal jolt
Ah, I see
cloud timber
also i actually tried ss kris with calem who is the fastest twave user in the game but even with his x speed and pep rally 1 and all of kris's gauge stuff it doesn't pan out and no support ex hurts
misty is too slow for that
vapid kernel
Marlon and SS Blue suck, Elio is better
vapid kernel
some tests
Theres alrdy 390K in the google sheets
cloud timber
i know.
i didn't have chase so i was testing what i could do without
still short of 277k which is what i got with ss kris
vapid kernel
Nice
vapid kernel
As you should
She can definitely 400K
I just missed one Hydro pump
Its interesting also tht u hv 1/5 chase but u can score so high because u cant max Misty's special attack
cloud timber
no time spent on blue's sync innate
royal jolt
LMAO NO WAY
cloud timber
beyond single discharge
royal jolt
I just missed one Hydro pump
SHE MISSED MY HYDRO PUMP, TOO 😭
royal jolt
Its interesting also tht u hv 1/5 chase but u can score so high because u cant m...
I can
Melony has All Ramped Up
royal jolt
Not really
Though, I do see what you mean
Turn one, I have no option but to TM since I need chase hit
vapid kernel
no time spent on blue's sync innate
Oh wow this is much much better than what i did, hydro cannon gaming?
vapid kernel
Turn one, I have no option but to TM since I need chase hit
No, the normal way to do it is just skip Melony turn 1
cloud timber
larry version in a minute
vapid kernel
hydro cannon with smart cookie and propulsion
Smart
royal jolt
No, the normal way to do it is just skip Melony turn 1
Oh well, lmao
I also got a few lucky paralysis procs
dry whale
Anybody try Cyrus yet?
vapid kernel
Forgot he existed
vapid kernel
How do we like my boy Gladion's chances?
Tried him before, he sucks everywhere
Even in a type where im weak
royal jolt
Oh, I don't doubt that
He's TRASH
but, I just remembered he exists and can technically do damage in all DCs
cloud timber
can reach 1 more sync, was one move off
more propulsion woulda did it
worse gauge though is a problem
royal jolt
This is just depressingly bad
Can't imagine many better supports for him, though
Maybe Colress could do him a favor?
cloud timber
he should be able to reach 200k minimum everywhere, bp barry/redlax and bp barry/larry could do it and elio would be even better
royal jolt
Elio because of the remaining +2 Atk? Or?
cloud timber
i didn't have colress at the time
not dealing with rosa's sync stuff and worrying less about gauge, idk how her gauge management works
royal jolt
Oh, right
It's awful
How could I forget
Gladion is in desperate need of saving. It's sad
cloud timber
i also never tried nc blue/melony with him
royal jolt
Give him like
Four Haymaker nodes on his expansion for two energy each and we should be good
Winona has a water-type move
Time to test her 🫡
vapid kernel
This is just depressingly bad
Lol Marlon level
cloud timber
cloud timber
wow
stoic crest
Thanks for the suggestion of nessa I managed to get almost 800k
royal jolt
What team did you use?
lusty galleon
lol
boreal warren
ok i got it again 
fossil igloo
Almost! Just need 1 full paralysis proc to let Muddy Water go off. I had it queued, but time ran out.
feral hamlet
Starting on this now. No SS Kris. No Archie. I'm not getting 1M, am I?
rain copper
no one knows when you don't show your available options
feral hamlet
I'm thinking maybe something with Dojo Gloria or NC Serena
cloud timber
with 3/5 nc serena you're in a pretty good spot
can just throw on nc blue melony on there
feral hamlet
Yup, that did it. Just had to regrid Serena for Water
royal jolt
Starting on this now. No SS Kris. No Archie. I'm not getting 1M, am I?
you
don't need either to reach 1M
just noticing my discord hadn't updated. That's my bad
feral hamlet
Just going by the list in the sheet, it looked like I couldn't match any of the teams until I got down to 900k with Nessa, which was not happening
true locust
Yup, that did it. Just had to regrid Serena for Water
Better use lax then nc blue get more
feral hamlet
Not sure if speed would be an issue at that point. I was starting to run out of gauge towards the end
true locust
You have serena 6 speed
Lax aplly tmp wat take time and refil gauve
Just need do lax tmp when 2-3 bars gauge have
Then no issue
cloud timber
yeah when serena can boost the team to +6 the gauge is actually better with redlax bc his tms give time to refill gauge
cloud timber
thinking maxie/courtney/nita could be alright for ground triple if you happen to lack any better ground strikes like me
nita for speed and more master passive and evasion
royal jolt
I think I might rely on my SS Gio as I did before. I figure my score should be a bit better than it was during the ranked battle since I'm not rationing units
cloud timber
yeah lot more freedom with that
vapid kernel
ALL THE DOUBTERS
TEETAR DANCE DAMAGE AHAHA
thin wren
what are ya all expecting to be top comp tmrw
cloud timber
roxie oleana and idk
thin wren
roxie oleana and idk
chase probably
pallid girder
For main dd I predict Roxie > Klara > Geeta > the rest.
pallid girder
Btw for f2p Plumeria prob can hit ~800k with pure f2p team and 1M* with premium support.
thin wren
Btw for f2p Plumeria prob can hit ~800k with pure f2p team and 1M* with premium ...
1k....
pallid girder
1M lol
thin wren
Everyone seems to be on the same boat for poison
long silo
I'll be using Geeta for tomorrow
vapid kernel
Geeta Melony Red for me
pallid girder
Plumeria will be better than Looker imo.
Inertia + sure crit every sync + can choose not to poison.
Looker without poison and seun has way worse sync dmg, and it's almost impossible to roll seun on every sync while crit every opponents.
vernal condor
Chase is useless for Geeta
true locust
Both are ussless
Just chase have faster sync and eva miss
Blue less rng offer but may cost less score
vernal condor
Blue provides a multiplier tho
true locust
Chase cirle too
vernal condor
The circle is special
Geeta is physical
vapid kernel
Why you need lax if geeta have mpr
Lol how many MPR can i roll for
vernal condor
As many as you need
cloud timber
plumeria is def way more reliable than looker and is a bit stronger when looker isn't giving himself seun and has evasion
but looker isn't actually unsalvageable or unusable at all
if it's bad to poison it's bad to poison, you can choose to ignore it or not on either so that's not really a factor when comparing the two bc they both have virulent toxin 5
yeah the poison difference is pretty close to equal between the two
but plumeria is also very safe with gauge for melony
sullen zephyr
So if i did my calc in pomatool correctly, geeta without haymaker still nukes harder than plumeria with all multipliers
normal parcel
As many as you need
2 MPR is 9% 3 MPR is 2.7%
vagrant ivy
minmaxers: looks like good odds to me!
normal parcel
Overall I think Oleana may be a better partner for Geeta because rebuff is better than seun if you can get MPR, and max move saves you a mortal spin
Not sure if Roxie will be better, technically she can paralyze all the target (12.5% of the times)
But she stalls time with zones/terrain
brazen dew
2 MPR is 9% 3 MPR is 2.7%
Wouldnt 2 be 4%? 20% for one right?
vernal condor
Geeta should be able to get close to 3m, that's all I need
normal parcel
Wouldnt 2 be 4%? 20% for one right?
Mpr2 is 30%
brazen dew
Oh, i thought geeta has 20% mpr
sullen zephyr
Is virulent toxin 3 worth the poison time loss?
normal parcel
Mpr9 is 100% so is MPR number * 10% + 10%
brazen dew
Geeta should be able to get close to 3m, that's all I need <:SeleneLul:611382187...
Ideal teammates?
normal parcel
Is virulent toxin 3 worth the poison time loss?
Nope, but the final b move probably is
brazen dew
Mpr9 is 100% so is MPR number * 10% + 10%
Ye, i thought she has mpr 1
fossil igloo
Whee! 2 million!
vapid kernel
Geeta should be able to get close to 3m, that's all I need <:SeleneLul:611382187...
Wow thats good
vapid kernel
Whee! 2 million!
U shudve recorded vid
true locust
Geeta 3 m?
Sound hard
All base on poison them wat will take alot time set zone use b move
Its all realy annoing
You dont para them from roxie g max
Chase para them:)
So roxie g max is just for zone befor sync and oleana g max for rebuff
lethal siren
Chase, melony for salazzle?
true locust
Chase roxie oleana
The best team
Melony no need if use oleana since she have rebuff for all and also deal from sync some damage
fluid anvil
do you just spam Oleanas 2 bar ?
enough gauge for that ?
true locust
My is 5/5
fluid anvil
mine too
true locust
I have free move
fluid anvil
do you use the Twofer V.Drench or not?
lethal siren
I have no Roxie
So can't do anything
lethal siren
true locust
I test it out
fluid anvil
I have a little over 10x 5/5's limiteds overall probably
true locust
If better use free move or not
Hard tell it now
But still i expect like 3 roxie sync any way after chase oleana
Since set zone terrain take alot time
fluid anvil
they can probably break 4M, but not much more
and you need to use Roxies b-move 3 times for -6 spdef ?
true locust
Not sure wat roxie damage will be
No i use chase low def and flinch so use roxie b move 2 times
When they flinch cant hit me🤣
So not waist time
lethal siren
fluid anvil
Chase only does -1 spdef single-target ?
you need -6spdef AoE
true locust
Yes
They flinched so you not lose time
Since they would make moves
And hit you
Its same like they hit you
Similar time amount
Flinch and low spe def
And roxie use b move need buy time for it
normal parcel
Flinch only works in 3v1 unless is aoe flinch (no individual rolls)
true locust
You flinch one and do next and next
Have time befor they move
I did it many times
This way
Just need now rotation
Who move when
normal parcel
But without 100% flinch is pretty hard to pull off
teal harness
Im looking at some fights and I cant see babyagacsmm's fight with hop champion, ss elesa and colress(3v1 fighting challenge), cuz Im interested in what elesa is doing in this team
lapis yarrow
Any good sub team comps for non Roxie owners?
teal harness
Any good sub team comps for non Roxie owners?
maybe plumeria or looker? they both have two sync multipliers on the grid
ariana, geeta and klara are also good options too
pseudo stag
Which is better for st poison dc, base janine or base koga??
vapid kernel
Practice round
pseudo stag
Koga
is it because koga's evasiveness sync thing has a better multipler than janine's poisoned sync thing on her grid??
misty forge
is it because koga's evasiveness sync thing has a better multipler than janine's...
Koga has
Native tech + blind spot + mind games 9 + 315 Spa
Janine has
Cs1 + virulent toxic 5 + 240 atk
The calc is easy
pseudo stag
janine also has native tech tho
misty forge
She gets more nodes
misty forge
janine also has native tech tho
Yeah but 240 atk doesn't compensate
She's also a worse unit to ex period
Janine does around 70% of koga
pseudo stag
wait where the heck does koga get mind games
pseudo stag
ah thanks
misty forge
Because of better grid layout and spa
normal parcel
Plumeria should be a great f2p option
misty forge
For 3v3 she's probably fine yea
royal jolt
I'm determined to try her
ivory kestrel
I got a very lucky run with several para procs, and was able to up my score to 2.47M. But then i saw the rank 1 again increased his/her score. Like, i dont think the difference of 1M is from gears alone? Were they able to sneak in one more sync?
pallid girder
if it's bad to poison it's bad to poison, you can choose to ignore it or not on ...
The thing is Looker without poison only has +50% sync, and it's not like Plumeria can't use seun at all, she can with premium supports, so the gap is just way bigger.
vapid kernel
I got a very lucky run with several para procs, and was able to up my score to 2...
who knows
fallen trail
new best score for single target
tbh i’m eager for the stages to reset at the end of the month i wanna go back to my old scores and improve them since we’ve learned more about how the mode works now
stoic crest
What team did you use?
Apologies it's a day late, but to get almost 800k I used nessa, SC Steven, and BP Berry.
If I don't get pinged I sometimes forget to check for replies. My apologies
woven fjord
Oh boy. Poison-weak for the next stage.
safe prawn
Ssroxie propaganda
shadow zealot
If you have rosa and melony, is rosa always the better choice because of her master passive?
or does melony offer something unique
west creek
melony offers an extra sync without wasting that much time
and rosa has exr sprint, but syncing with her can cause problems with sing spam
pallid girder
Master passive doesn't boost sync dmg.
Also if you sync with NC Rosa you need to use her bmove to get sing back and many ppl think the sprint exr doesn't compensate the time loss.
shadow zealot
Cool ty
hollow wadi
Do I have any chance of hitting 1m with this?
teal harness
Do I have any chance of hitting 1m with this?
nope, but gloriafu can do some dmg
woven fjord
and rosa has exr sprint, but syncing with her can cause problems with sing spam
Yeah, if Rosa were to sync at all, then she'd need to use her B-move in the 1st sync cycle and she'd need to be the 1st to sync.
fallen trail
teeter dance spam with charging infliction is pretty good still
not nearly as good as sing spam
pallid girder
Only really work in fighting bc ppl want the rebuff.
Outside fighting wasting sing spam on teeter dance spam is just a bad idea.
normal parcel
Master passive doesn't boost sync dmg.
Also if you sync with NC Rosa you need to...
It doesn't compensate, but helps, plus Rosa is faster than melony so if gauge is a constraint, she may be the way (and if you need smun/pmun stacks for the finisher she may be worth regardless)
normal parcel
Only really work in fighting bc ppl want the rebuff.
Outside fighting wasting si...
I guess it could work in psychic too if you want both rebuff and psychic terrain, but at this point I feel that go viral sing without charging infliction may still be better
merry horizon
Do you think for tomorrow SS Roxie's or Klara's nuke is going to be the better option? (Both are EXR)
misty forge
Roxie probs
cloud timber
^
royal jolt
I can't wait for Geeta gaming
rotund sierra
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vernal condor
Yeah the additionnal b move is way too slow, and no Adrenaline would not be enough
You'd literally need adrenaline 9 lol
rotund sierra
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vernal condor
technically he provides gauge thanks to his passive, but yeah
fallen trail
the problem isnt just the additional b move, its the fact that she needs to use 2 more water shurikens to use it
vernal condor
the additional shuriken isn't that bad (bcs you still have to use 1 more), it's really the b move the issue
rotund sierra
the problem isnt just the additional b move, its the fact that she needs to use ...
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fallen trail
oh lol
rotund sierra
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vernal condor
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the 2nd one shouldn't have been used tbf
sacred badger
2mil clear nc serena?
rotund sierra
2mil clear nc serena?
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modest ledge
Who’s the best FTP option for this water damage challenge? I understand they’re all terrible options I’m jw
fallen trail
nessa for gen pool 5 star
rain copper
she needs SC Steven tho
rain copper
1/5 Steven is great enough
fallen trail
yea sc steven rarely needs dupes
sacred badger
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I just went with 1.5m clear nc serena 3r, elio and redlax o.o
I tried other teams and couldnt break my clear xd
unborn otter
royal jolt
How good was Variety Gio against 3v3 ground?
royal jolt
I have one 5* Field candy and am considering him for it, but I'm on the fence about it
lethal siren
Why not poison only one opponent
It will increase little sync nuke
Any side opponent who moves less
Not middle
royal jolt
That's the strategy I plan to try
rain copper
Emma should easily get 1mil
fallen trail
nice that she can max team speed with an mpr
rain copper
I think you can afford to run Oleana Venom Drench
While replace Melony with SC Steven
Imma try that next reset
fallen trail
i can't run that team cuz i'd have no support ex neither my emma or oleana are caked