#Damage Challenge
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A true *pokemon player 
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Perfect
To the starboard!
For NC Leaf - Redlax - NC Rosa comp, i’ve tried both runs where:
- Only Redlax syncs
- Both Redlax and NC Rosa syncs
…multiple runs already, syncing with both supports first always yielded the higher scores
Sorry guys her restaurant only has 2 stars so we can only give her 2 ⭐
She'd need 15 stars for starboard
Doesn't doing a sync move with NC Rosa make you lose some time tho?
It does. Hence i went several runs to test if the sprint exr would compensate for the B move. And yes it does compensate, in my runs
are you fishing for rosa evasion
only real rng on my run was getting a refresh on may's TM, other than that low sweep is fast and only needs used 4 times to max out kekwalk and inate relentless
Only 2 stars? That bede is still raw
it's ok to do things that consume time if you have the time to spare
I always find that Leaf's head fit very well to chef body, that why i did it

I wonder if redlax rosa could theoretically go higher
Yeah, i may add, syncing with NC Rosa will require a little bit more rng luck (eva, para procs), as the timing is a bit more tight
because 1.3x vs 1.5x but chase has a ton of benefits
Syncing with Red only is much safer, always leaving around 5 sec after Leaf’s last sync even without para procs
With perfect rng on both I think redlax could get higher
you lose evasion tho if you don't sync with rosa but I get why it's safer
What a boring DC this was. I couldn't have fun experimenting 
SS Lear - MC Torchic - Para spam
Do it.

It looks like the blaziken clears are a lot lower than i expected... Moltres seems undeniably higher
i don't think that's too much of a surprise
I have both ar 2/5. Was wondering if id need to candy one today and was hoping to do blaziken
next is... 3v3 fighting

NC Leaf got 2M in fire 3v3, of course she'll do good in 3v1
Colress + NC Bianca + NC Hop
no chop
Breh
Virizion and H-Decidueye
NC Bianca and NC Hop have better multiplier than NC Bianca and NC Rosa
Since 2 Rebuff + Zone > 3 Rebuff + 1 Rebuff sides
I think
you can sing spam until she syncs, then it's only one relic song to go from fighting back to psychic
Just sync then b move
gm everyone how is ny Wallace doing
Fish for evasion
Bruh
Thinking about the units I have EX’d or spend candy on
Units EX’d: 11
Units candied: Anni Lillie, Ash, SS Hilbert, maybe Oleana?, maybe Anni Skyla? maybe NC Leaf?
Is it bad that I forgot if, out of three, who was candied before Damage Challenge was added or candied for Damage Challenge?
I didn't think of that
I aint gonna do that
Why not Rei + CHop? Zone is still higher boost than st rebuff + defensive circle, and hop get ex supoort update .
if you have chase you can try something funny
Who would win
My Rei is 1/5 and Lear ate my sprint candies 
managed to hit 1m in 3v1 with bianca/rei/sc steven

believe this was before we clued in about funny paralysis animation cancelling
was expected considering kfc got to use chase
we did actually know about colress from first rotation, i tried bp barry but people weren't mentioning him much yet
That miss 
I think fighting will be rei + rosa + (uhhh what's the best physical enhancer with para?nc blue right?)
Want to try Rei + Volo for fun.
NC Blue cannot enhance physical
Whose gonna be solid for fighting triple this weekend
wait volo has para
The poor circle unit that never got used in dc.
rei/bianca immediately comes to mind
Good luck fishing for para
rei+rosa is more thought about
If a unit self buffs their phys stats, NC blue has a passive that increases ally sync damage by 20% anyway
cuz rosa is a sing spammer
s moves up 2:

aw hell yeah forgot rei has soften up 1 as a passive 
Let's see who'll be this insane and do Volo+Rosa and roll para first turn from Volo's bmove.
I'll do a reular Barry + Volo + Rei.
fighting triple is gonna be x speed all yet again

unfortunately his nuke is only 150%
rosa evasion fishing time
Rei - NC Bianca gaming
does have seup and b-move (mini sync move) at least
Is it like NC Nate where you ignore the b move and only sync?
Rei/NCBlue/Rosa sounds about right
I'm so ready for tomorrow 
shouldn't rosa give more than nc Bianca?
probably
Rosa has aoe rebuff
relying on silver again like fire triple
Rei will have seun mpr fishing
am i cooked
no gloria no nc leaf no ss may
Circle + 2 rebuff
oh idk why the image didnt send
And theme skill
oh it's about equal boost
Yea 
- will to protect too
rosa and Bianca both give evasion huh
How much is NC Bianca's?
How good is Bianca’s nuke?
is my best bet like. anni N
counting will to protect its about equal
Reshiram can do 1 mln
It's gonna be riley day
150% + will to protect and circle iirc but no seun

I wonder if Silver can do one mil
I am assuming nc rosa is partner
bianca's got
- TWTP
- exclusive ls
- unova solidarity sync ^ 9
- unova solidarity's buff
- 2 stacks of rebuff on one target
what's twtp again
NC Rosa + NC Blue sounds abt right for her
oh right passive
just buffs moves and sync moves when circle's up, on top of what circle already provides
Or C Hop instead of Blue for FZ
Jokes apart
Wouldn't redlax be better?
NC Bianca has exclusive LS?
para and 1.5x vs 20% additive and para
I think Cinderace + NC Rosa + Random Fighting DPS will be the best team
yes
If with Aaron you can sneak an extra sync it will definitely will be worth over paralysis skill gear
I forgot what it is
40% sync up iirc
Yes
Water single
NC Serena
But mine is 1/5
Still I will try as much as I can
for Bianca I am gonna assume it's gonna be rosa + redlax
Bianca has slightly more multipliers
So Bianca might actually do better if she deal dmg herself and use 2 booster?
who has more attack
Yeah
Rei has a probably 300k nuke at the end as well
Although sync crit will be more annoying due to lack of soften up 1
bianca also has support exr 
Lowkey Bianca will be better than Rei but we will have to see
didn't come remotely close to 3m in triple and there's nothing that'd make him much better in single
Imagine if NC Hop got strike instead of support
I still think b move might move rei ahead
wouldn't fit as well with his single target debuffs tbh
Maybe use the whole st team again but Bianca mainly sync this timr.
would be worse for general content tbh
Yeah the debuff will be annoying to set up anyway
Red>chop probably
Bea has soften up1
Rei - NC Hop - NC Bianca… who’s sync rushing?
evasion all 3 have
Bea will eaily do the million and more
Mark these words
Ye
rosa and redlax for Bianca
What about Riley
Will we ever get another dc like fairy that normal play and no sync rush give you more score?
Riley is Rei but weaker
First run, I think I can get 2M+ with this team, of course garbage gears 
If gramps Hala can 1M, iirc Bea has a higher sync dmg than him, so she should be able to as well
My 1/5s came to bite me in the ass 
Yeah i mean, can he do the million
easily
He has good multipliers too
Innate inertia
Brawn sync 3
Super syncer + a sprint pair
i reckon caked riley could do it
f2p team in fighting gets 1 mil for sure
Is the Gauge accel from Chase's Circle really not enough for Melony
Which one is easier to set up in 3min? 5/5 SSHilda or 3/5 SSMay
Depends
Ss may is better in this dc
I am ready
Hala gets 1M with pure f2p teammates bc we have free ice zone tho.
I assume Melony+Gordie for Sun/Rebuff, or Chase/Red?
riley should have stronger syncs than bea even before taking into account sprint ex and max move and super syncer (1 seun for his second sync)
at the cost of no evasion or soften up
ran the calcs on what i think are the best grids
higher attack too
f2p fighting got 500k in st
With Riley, not Bea.
I didn't specify bea
For no extra E i’ll grid Bea like this
yea that's just a downgrade
Not for sync. For eva gaming. Bea's sync is about crit and speed.
and that one's the grid i had on
agile entry means more syncs
And that only has +1 more E than 2 Meteor tiles
Ill use this, for the memes 
+200k for that one missed crit
idk how many worse strike exes there are but she has to be really close to if not the bottom maybe
base iris is right there
Ill point to the 100k 
New meta for this one🫢
flint ex gonna go hard
Flannery ex got robbed

mega penalty is such a huge deal that i wouldn't be completely certain iris is worse at first
Oh if mega penalty is considered yes she's prob the worst.
Me when Kahili will get her ex:
I will finally start to ex my flying limited units
Hilda
Daaamn
Best grid for 3/5 SSMay with Gordie/Melony?
I want to pick that Sync Node but maxing Atk seems more relevant
Ah, but I was thinking on using Gordie Hot to the Touch, guess we are just resetting till blaze kick procs burn on first kick and we get a MPR?
Gordie’ll burn eventually
Mawile has AoE moves?
Brutal swing
barely got it lmao
Who spams? n?
Him probably
But noble roar is 2 gauges
speed buffs, mga, speeding sun
Guess SS Hilbert may use infliction freebie metal sound when gauge is low
Rest is same 😏
I was expecting more Silver
I guess low attack and striker won't help him much
Even if it has lots of sync stuffs
Is Redlax better than chase/blue?
it looks like it's only because of SEUP
Chase if avoid get hit would be better
My N is 2/5, I doubt it will work, right?
I mean I see chase being optimal in other comps, same for blue, why this time Redlax is better?
N needs the sync nuke tiles
Para super up next rosa give eva up its why
Chase is still better like i say if in your run he never get hit plus have cirlce extention
Ah, so is one of "those" clears?
Is Redlax still better with human RNG?
All chase clear base on avoid hits
Even 2/5 wiyh no sync tiles and without a passive, it could get a nice 800K I guess
Red lax have less rng then chase
Even than blue?
You need extention on chase cirle
Yes I mean between 3/5 chase, 3/5 blue and 1/5 Redlax who is better (considering I don't want to deal with a lot of RNG)
Leaf has 80% crit, so I don't want to add much RNG
It has it
Lax have mp 1/5?
Yes
Lol then better lax if he caked
I know because I did some runs where I had rely on Redlax mpr
Btw what x item they use?
Watch my vid
And do same its all
First step get 2 eva from rosa
Then 1 mp red and crit syncs its all
You already lost me... Too much RNG for an 80% crit unit
I'm only willing to commit to some degree of RNG if the unit has guaranteed crit
Don't want to reset for 2hours and then I miss a crit
I dint have rosa
Can we use primamarina?
Rng is high score:)
No chase 3/5
Only 1/5
What's your gear like?
You can use chase 1/5 too just score less
All depend on rng
If chase never get hit you may score similar too:)
How many SMUN did you roll for his last blow?
It didnt show the miss message so i assumed it was times up
didn’t bother
needs gobsmack 4 to get the sync tile
but now that you’ve bought it up I might try
you can hear Gloria say something meaning the move did queue..... you just got the 5% miss moment
Is it possible to do 1m with cinderace?
Definitely
yes
In fact, there's a 2.7M clear with Glorialt
Then i did something wrong, help plz 😦
mfw i fail a perfect run because bede lowered blue's attack on a play rough

i got like 3 paras
definitely doing something wrong if your sync isn't doing this much damage.
@zinc elbow
Decent? Only first SSMay sync didn't crit, but I think I got decently lucky with misses
Dunno if I should reset
Yeah, what could it be?
what is Alt gloria's Multipliers? i don't have her
I have her grid like this
Haymaker + brawn sync 5 + native rebuff
I don't aim to top score, I aim to get the highest reliable score
Like if switching an unit increases score without adding RNG I'm fine
No rng need use nc blue leaf and melony
1/5 can get 1mil with top tier luck, I missed my opportunity because of a misclick (was 810k and 1 second from syncing)
Then you have zero rng
you're already missing out on 2 whole sync nodes.
But arent those for fighting and flying Sync?
They are fighting and flying sync
Is the score still higher than a not so great RNG run with chase/Redlax?
Do u have grid on her?
With NC leaf 0 RNG doesn't exists
This Is her grid atm
Again, i don't have her, didn't even realize she had 3 different sync nodes.
then this.
Chase need avoid alot move lax need mp get nc blue need nothing
Like my adaman run was 0 RNG (but not the bestest you can get with him)
You are NOT running max double down lol
you need MP refresh for for max attack
That max move does so little it's not worth
you have to max move anyways for the Rebuff
unless NC Bianca
Yeah but pmun↑ on dodges is better
Yes but the energy cost isn't justified
Or max move +2 atk
Or both if you have the orbs
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
6E
idk what you're doing wrong unless you're not paralyzing first before sing failing.
Unless.... do you have Move gauge refresh on sing gridded?
because if so.... take that off right now
Also troublemaker 1 lucky skill. DON'T use it bc it consumes too much time.
I'm using super powered 3
MGR will never proc because sing against a paralyzed opponent is never successful
Quite 1m
I mean on Melony. Troublemaker is a death sentence to her in dc.
? so melony is useful for dc but can’t have trouble maker or sing gauge refresh?
correct, ppe2 or your choice of accel LS are the usual choices
what’s ppe2 again?
Troublemaker single-handedly triples the duration of a single sing it feels like
MGR and troublemaker 1 actually stall your movement due to the passive activating
I have a question
Pinpoint Entry
Isn't BP Rose going to be unhironically pretty good in steel single target?
next one is triple fighting, so maybe bea or riley for f2p side?
Riley with cake is the best option
Riley > Bea
The question is if Riley deserves the ex role
I have never roled him yet
Despite being an alright pair
ohhhh is that from a lucky cookie? if so which one?
Deluxes (because of course it’s deluxes)
Will this run be on the doc? What's the strat?
💀 dang dena really doesn’t like me
i only have 2 deluxe cookies so idk what a replace for that is
Does ppe save much time over hs1? Statistically speaking
Ask @vapid kernel that. I do not have Alt Gloria...... yet
single water is ez with dojo gloria
it makes her sing always land, so it saves more time overall
I hv no idea whats wrong tbh my damages are always a bit lower than others
This was my first successful one
Oh, that reply wasn't for you specifically, that was for Detka.
they were trying Alt gloria as well but only got like 300K
WAIT THIS IS MY CLEAR

it’s the difference between sing miss animation and sing fail animation which can add up over the long run, accel is optimally faster assuming you reset for all sing hits if you can even discern those
So uh
my anni n only hiw about 318k
surely there must be a way to boost the numbers
am i spending too much time using noble roar?
has anyone tried to f2p this yet
3/5?
ye
someone got 1 mil with SS Morty and Redlax iirc?
If you don't have deluxe cookies left, you just roll sth that'll be useful in many dcs, like burn immunity (bc fuck heat wave) or def cannot be debuff (she has spdef one but not def one).
oh? no spammer needed?
WAIT, SS Hilbert. 
I believe they used Noble roar as the spam.
how are people getting 1mil in dcs??? i see people use 3/5 colress, redlax, sc steven (i lack red and steven). highest i got in a single dc is 400k
check pins
Literally this.
spam meta is the best meta
sometimes i be doing thag (with bp barry instead) and i feel like my damage is still pathetic
Except when it's fairy weak round.
Are you actually fufilling your DDer's Sync multipliers?
I suffered with that Thunderwave played while alr having the sync ready
well i will use their tms and such
never really took dc seriously but i think i’m gonna start it now
are you also fufilling other factors such as debuffing and adding SEUP?
you have to use utility mons to their fullest potential in this mode.
Many units can't fulfill their dmg multipliers by just clicking tms.
ohhhh that. who are some seup appliers?
Redlax, Dana, SC Jasmine, and the Damage dealers themselves sometimes
....HOLIDAY JASMINE
What is the strat for this? Can you dm me it please?
I DID IT AGAIN
linkable…
Redlax and Jasmine are really only the important ones, hard to justify spending a slot on Dana
sadly this is all i got for seup
because her holiday outfit is a very special costume!
yeah uh it’s Dana then, and only in a solo spammer comp (Barry/Colress)
Take NC leaf for example, only click her tm not gonna give you her full dmg.
I had to leer 2 times and use NC Blue's Def/Spdef drops to fully debuff after using a single Flare Blitz
what TM do the enemies have?
i didn't pay attention, but it's not X speed all
so who is scoring higher between alt gloria and anni n
Alt Gloria
TM-dependent I think you can get away with one leer and B move after Blue syncs
You need to fit in 4 gloria syncs
though that may also want Blue’s debuff tiles
Well then
Dodge to buy time
got 380k
gloria bianca melony?
better but no 1 mil
was the SS Morty a 3/5 by chance?
Gloria will always score high in all 3 types, fighting has also better options with chop+ NC Bianca tho
did some tests for f2p
didnt even know fighting was next lol
Don't think she's better than NC blue here specifically
gonna try Hilda next
Redlax/NC Rosa/Rei real
so does blue tho
but gloria fills that requirement herself
so thats not really an issue
@copper otter fml i just managed to get the run again
i MISSED pyro ball again

It was like
Melony did the last sing spam cycle under 14 seconds
So good
She GOT the job done
Gloria sucks
how tf are you doing that w no paralyzer
unless you’re fishing for bounce paralysis lmao
You do
no CS2 4 syncs
I only got 300k
When do you use Bianca TM?
this is looking pretty miserable for F2P players
PB silver might cap out at 350k
if I’m being entirely honest
Finally
Im uploading a video soo
@copper otter DANCE PARTY
I didnt crit the 3rd sync but i regridded to ensure Pyro Ball doesnt miss 
TFW units sync nuke sucks ass. Don't do the para sing technique.
Lmao whats this
was literally just testing this
haven’t seen any
users yet tho so I wonder what’s his maximum
I'd say 1mil
Scraping by
Need that SEUN on max
I did in fact roll for that and b move only did 200k
CS2
with 5 syncs
and max move doing about 70k on crit
he shines more in 3v3 for sure but I’d rather not use ss red
I've seen people get 950k with him so I think the max is around 50-70k more, maybe closing to 1.1
Thanks! Please tag me when its up. Much appreciated.
Yeah, but what's Arc Lance even doing in your team
Gloria alt is my favorite investment now that she passes flying and fire DC 1m point with no issue 
has anyone tested blaine
I think you mean 3v3 (bc we're now in 3v1), and NY Wallace was actually used there and score 2M or so iirc.
@lapis yarrow
@vernal condor are u proud i did my first dc submission 
I filled the goog forms
Oh dear im missing out
Oh now i rmb, ye i did well with mix blue so i ignored ny wallace aheeh
Play Rough lowered Gloria's attack before the last sync, I'm so over this bullshit 
Fighting too
nice
Bro i got play roughed 5 times today
Run ender for sire
It's all RNG and Spam feels
for a sec i thought she did more than my flareon's irida
i was gonna scream
This feels stupid why did I do this
Yes this is my second attempt
/s
Oh wait it's because I don't have freaking ho-oh morty 🙃
NICE
I had +10 phys up next but no gauges to use Pyro Ball at the end lol
Would probably reach 2M from that
Nice, you got good gear then i guess?
Because i cant get 1.8M without pyro ball
I had just enuf gauge by using Bianca to max team speed
I didn't max speed cuz then I would lose out on a sync (I did Melony, Bianca, then 5x Gloria)
Just attacked 3 times for the defense drops
hmmmm
is champion bianca better than champion blue here or do you just not have
Blue
Bianca seems better
Blue gives +20% sync and -2 def vs +25% sync (from circle and bianca's passive) and -6 def
BUT if you can get 6 Gloria syncs with Blue, then he wins
NC Leaf doesn't need SS Morty at all. She has her own sun and support ex.
Also 1/5 SS Hilda is just a burden there. Use proper sync spammer.
I also did 5 syncs with max speed
Bianca buys time with flinches
Bianca gives x1.83 from defense debuffs and evasion while morty gives x1.5
Altho idk if opponent has defense mitigation
Can anyone enlighten me
Trained Body 5
Gonna try again later then
So if we must choose btw terrain and defense debuff , always go for terrain then
Big improvement 
Technically yes, but overshadowed by corless
I thought he had a slightly stronger nuke
Mb
Colress can spam himself so he can afford 2 units dedicated to boost his dmg, while other f2p steel techs need to sacrifice 1 slot for a spammer.
I don't have anything else that would be useful ._.
first attempt with a turn 1 para
feels… alright? but ppl are getting more so idk
might just need more dodges
chase is funny
chase and c leaf im guessing
leaf sets her own sun has support exr and rebuff -2 and power play is just. yeah
shes easily the best here
but i will make do with what i have
leaf has the second strongest st nuke
But then who's the 3rd?
melony or what I would like to believe, agatha
4M requires 6 syncs with Leaf
The supports don't need to be on type when they're not doing much dmg anyway
Do you have Melony? A para support like NC Blue or Chase + Melony is the most efficient sync rush team.
Or 5 with perfectly rolled skill gears
BTW, do you guys use 3 Leers on Leaf and then use her B Move?
Or do you guys have 4/5 Chase for Mind Games?
wait, you guys have nc leaf?
Pls help :(
i dont think she will have enough gauge
1 bar vs 2 bar is a big difference
Rei's B Move isn't worth using besides the final DPS at the end right?
ok. following inverts advice from last night
Yes It has more attack, but only 80% sync multiplier, colress has 190% and covers the spam, but I guess it needs more babysitting than Rose
ex bp barry, exr sygna red, and sun setter - of blaine, sygna erika, and bp lusamine, blaine is the best option bc he enables reds theme skills yeah?
Got some good Para procs
its probably worth using multiple times
its basically another nuke
rock 3v3 used silvers multiple times and it’s practically the same move
ok i think i have to sync with blaine for the first sun bc it runs out otherwise
solar flare on blaine won't activate from solar sync right? bc that sets sun after sync?
I did leaf lax rosa
yes but you can rush to sync under the sun he sets w solar sync on his next sync
i mean
you can squeeze a little bit more yes
im just trying to use blaine as sun for sygna red's solar flare
ah
was more just checking his grid for if it was worth aiming for solar flare vs grabbing the crit from tm to sure crit that one sync
you’ll need a spammer 3rd cuz the sun will likely run out if you queue moves like normal
that works
last night was uh
here
which, 400k single target is fine in my book
but why not see if this is in fact better
this dmg isnt looking super good tho
wait
i know why
i had to delay reds tm so that i could get the post-mega atk for haymaker
and then promptly. forgot to use it at all
ok rerunning that
@cloud timber hm. not sure what i did wrong for this not to beat the prior score
all red syncs crit, got enough propulsion procs for a final sync at 8ish seconds remaining before the blast burn
trap for interference sync and blaines innate multiplier isnt worth the time loss
Ok, tried NC blue, chase and redlax, I scored the most with chase, NC blue was a bit close, redlax wasn't even close without rng
With Redlax I just lose a sync
Not sure if with NC blue I got less crits or if I got full Crits with chase
But I assume with the same number of syncs chase comp should always score better
How many syncs and with who?
For 4+2 I don't think chase really needs rng
chase and melony and i think it wasnt a lot of syncs
With good RNG I guess it could get 5+2
I did 4 syncs but I can't really say if I got 4 crits
Without cs2 is harder to tell if you critted
Was the 3.2m 5/5? Because that will definitely help due to increased BP and the possibility to fit an extra +25 with expansion
At 3/5 +6 I can't fit all 4 sync nodes
whats ur grid for nc leaf
Thank you for your tips/video @vapid kernel Not as high as yours but good enough for me 🙂
If i have 2 status spammers (ie barry and elio), what would be faster? Just one spamming the move or 2?
generally, elio is faster because his refresh is only 60% chance, so you can get lucky with not proccing it every so often and saving some time over barry's 100% chance
however, you need para units to enable sing spam, so if the ability of barry to para and then spam is more useful for you, then use barry
Would it be faster if both of them spammed side by side?
not usually, because as i was about to get to, you want your remaining slot to be someone augmenting your dps
what does your current fire roster look like?
itll be easier to explain with your own likely units/comps than the one i ran
My tech ex ones would be glora (1/5) and anNi (3/5) both exed. I have selene but ofc she's not viable. I have 3/5 exr sshilda as well which i don't think is good either
.... selene has a fire unit?
one second
oh you probably mean serena
ok
so anni n is probably who you want to run
Yeah serena mb
np, just threw me for a sec
My run with him resulted in 201k with ex ss Brendan and barry 😓 if you have better recommendations that'd be great. I don't have nc blue
All of my exed fire units btw
so for anni n, he has a one-time boost to a super-effective move (which works on sync) on healthy entry
yeah that's a big mistake
in general, you want to be able to have that boost on as many of your damaging syncs as possible, because it gives you +50%
yeah, i didnt run those i was just trying to look for what could possibly help that i didnt already have gridded/was already doing
Is thar in his grid?
shouldn't need solar sync with a support ex anyway
yes. it's called 'healthy superhit' but you don't actually want it
?
one sec invert
i used it
makes first sync stronger than the second even if you take the time for -3 spdef more
can't you not fit healthy superhit if you want both devastation + pecking order and both afflicters?
or are the afflicters not worth
even with two spammers, the marginal gain of maybe an extra sync is far outweighed by having that third slot for a unit to boost more of n's syncs, such as redlax, sc steven, or a couple other enablers. i believe you can also use a pair who sets sun for a similar ongoing boost to damage
afflicters not worth
i did two noble roars to debuff and 4 discharge from nc blue
try to get as many mg2 procs as you can
frost doesnt have nc blue (neither do i fwiw)
So anni, scteven, and ?
sc steven can't paralyze, so you would want bp barry (ex if you can)
He's exed already dw
the strat with anni n is to noble roar spam with gauge support
So 6 noble roars?
sc steven is also great for n because he lowers stats, which boosts n's sync
wait, so not a paraspam?
nope
just a debuff asap for empty noble roars?
mb then
n was a bad choice of example in this case lmao
noble roar has 2 stats to debuff so it skips like a failed sing
Im worried about the gauge lol
bring ss morty if you got him, speeding sun makes the difference
Barry has catalyst on sync and n has accel on demand
ex morty even
Oh yeah so morty, anni, and scteven?
Exr 
perfect
Sounds like a good strat lemme try it out
...when i wake up lol
Im about to sleep in a few, gn y'all and thanks
couple people have 1m'd with ss hilbert
so yeah if. you didnt have anni n and were using a different dps, the general idea is having someone to augment the sync damage for every sync > the marginal speed of two spammers over one
sc steven should be an upgrade(?)
Isn't his sync bug?
genesects whole thing is type changing
he gives fire rebuff bc its one of the drive types
Oh he's used as a utility
yeah not as sync
I thought he was the dps lol
im not so sure w/o spdef debuffs
with anni n
but yeah basically with barry sup sync my first sync with red is before 2:00
yeah he just sets more simultaneous debuffs to possibly make up for it plus seun
so sun runs out too quickly
don't have sun out for first sync
gib sc steven support exr pls
alr, i'll run it back without sun on first sync but i dont know how much more thatll help - if propulsion procs itll still be like 1:40ish
honestly easiest to wait until 1:40 mark before setting first sun
sorry dena's telephone line got scrambled, did you say field? 
doubt you could fit in an extra attack before
yeah
so second sun can be before it runs out the first time
ye
if first set is 1:40ish, then aim for it around the 50s mark and hopefully time it to skip the expiration but if not oh well
has to be after 50s to ensure it lasts
and we dont use his tm at all, hes just there to set sun right? or is the marginal time worth it
first sync is after 1:40 though there's a tiny bit of leeway
not worth doing anything else with blaine
alr cool
can run any sun setter and they'll be equally good
im putting speeding sun on to maybe squeak in a second last minute blast burn
elio could set haymaker before red's first sync but he might be too slow with burn to justify still
yeah, thats what i was going for with the redlax/elio setup
without melony ex you shouldn't worry too much though
para with body slam, elio gives +4/+4, red can use one tm sooner
also: 3x speeding sun doesnt give enough gauge support for barry to somehow not need charging infliction right
yeah
frustrating but understandable
need mga to sustain 2 bar and even then it's rough if you're pushing for more than 5 syncs
but you could always just see how it goes anyway
i've never tested specifically 3x that with as many speed buffs
ft1 or ft2 on bp barry would help
prob still runs out way too fast regardless tho
red scammed me out of a sync crit and also didnt proc a single propulsion
rerunning it but also boooo @ red lmao
idk how you're not fitting in soften up tbh esp if you're taking speeding sun
low move level?
4/5
gotcha
i could candy him to 5/5 ig but
don't lol
im mostly using speeding sun to get to solar flare
remove speeding sun still
and you'll afford both sync nodes
without overcap if you haven't added any
this is the non-speeding sun grid; was thinking of going back to speeding sun if i can put it on barry and blaine if 3x might have been worth
but this is what im currently running
it probably won't be bc sustaining 2 bar is that bad
yeah
it's a miracle oleana manages but she has mgb and pep rally
if soften up is worth the candy i do have some strike candies, im just waiting bc a) hes already 4/5 and 2) hes technically in the f2p-ish category
it really isn't tbh unless you're really overflowing with strike candies
he was 3/5 from back in the day before you got one for free when he was the meta, then when you could pick one i got him to either 2/5 or 3/5 idr. nowadays i wish i had sygna blue but oh well, we didnt know any better then lmao
yeah ok then ill wait
anyway if this mf could crit his sync with +3 to crit one of these days that would be great thanks red
I was only able to reach 210k with the upper team. Is it possible to go for more with my current roster.
are you familiar with sync rushing? you might want to check the pins
okay, so accel shenanigans are important
yes
wrong idea of accel
well not exactly, bp barry and colress are what you want to start with
for gaugeless spam on their status moves
which have no animation after the first
sygna morty is fine to keep with probably either red or hilda
yea
and then a spammer slot 3
hilda should be better
i do remember the insane sing spammer lapras
does she need para specifically?
melony is fastest but elio is still faster than bp barry and colress and worries way less about gauge management if at all
hilda applies burn
she needs an existing status
you're working off burn yeah
gotcha
wasnt sure if we wanted to block the burn for animation time
or if she had multipliers for it
so I'd just spam sing on lapras and sync with hilda?
with ss morty you do have all the gauge you need for melony with his tms though
yeah but support exes first
hm actually, hilda is strike/supp while red is strike/tech - is that 1.5x not basically equivalent to her super sync 9?
she just does worse with mega penalty affecting red badly
oh right, mega penalty
that's the one that matters most anyway
yeah hilda cake is nice but not as vital as reds cake is here
but youre not using red so np
nice
one field ex lasts the fight if you sync with morty after 1:40
i presume this is her preferred grid right?
how does a status affect her sing spams. I glazed over the base kit, didn't find anything pointing towards it
my melony is 1/5 only
+pins
when a diff status is inflicted they can't be put to sleep, so you can just spam sing with no animation
this gets you sync moves pretty fast
gotcha
i think red has forgotten how to crit
ok this is with finally landing all the sun sync crits
honestly... kinda underwhelming
but hey its 6 more tickets so
i think there could maybe, maybe be a strat with fishing for mpr on sygna erika's sun then set it early to try and proc solar propulsion on xspeed?
won't be netting an extra sync
tru
it's not super significant with status spam even if it's bp barry's but you can always try
she does have speeding sun 3 and will ideally get to +6 speed.... hmm
ill try with charging still equipped first
make sure you grid headstrong on her bc that can help for play roughs if she survives
and you tank with her
oh do we want to tank with her not barry?
ah
passive proc takes time but not nearly as much as eating the debuff straight
you can yea
blaine 0/20 or delphox 4/5 0/20 for actual damage challengue
pretty much next best option after hs1/adr
blaine should be better, redlax/melony would be ideal partners, sc steven may be even better than redlax
yeah
yo holy shit
better than dying
first run in she gets solar propulsion on setting sun as well as mpr, then gets it on the very first xspeed
sync after turn 2 lesgoooo
thanx!
oh yeah sc steven not being able to set para is a huge deal so redlax preferred
my best run which was 500k didn't set trap on first sync which idk if it was the right play given his innate relies on it and not sun
but it did fit in 6th sync
bc of that
always sync with support exes first
ok first run with erika is 428970, can prob improve bc i think i missed at least one crit
oh also note that silver should theoretically be better than blaine but i didn't catch any screenshots with him for this specific rotation
when did silver's event last cycle?
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can run that, just expect 3x less
for single target
yeah there is the possibility of fitting in an extra sync for single target but i'd take the lower end estimate by default
and also the burned target will act way more since you can't burn a side
Because 3v1 usually rounds up around 35-40%
True that
good god
The perfect run
Felt like sharing this here cuz lol I am so fuckin shit at these fights.
can you send a video? im guessing you arent using sync spam strats as explained in the pins, but thats low even for not using them
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
how in the hell is the top score 4.1M ? wtf
theres no way NC leaf + Chase do 4+Mil, is there?
Thats very nearly the same as Arc Lance had and he has stronger sync, faster setup + a 1M B-move
She brings everything she needs, chase shoots her up to hell n back
He can't bring his own WTZ tho
I guess with insane dodge/paralysis luck maybe you can sync on extra time
5/5 chase can save a leer
5/5 leaf has enough energy to pick all the +25 sync nodes
However 4m is a lot
not sure 1/5 anni n can actually outperform silver or blaine esp without ss morty
1/5 anni n has no sync multiplier besides the innate
is there a cap on how much his innate can scale?
yea just innate and tech ex
18 debuffs
thanks but hours too late, dont need it no more lul
i think sygna erika can get higher than blaine but the rng is way too annoying to keep rolling for
so 465k it is for me
Isn't Erika grass type?
yes
i might try to run her otherwise identically to blaine and just see if she feels like being nice with her solar propulsion procs on those two settings of sun but
blaine there is as sun setter to ss red
Nobody uses Gordie?
some have
i dont think rebuff is worth only having one use of sun
Rebuff = sun
unless you have a particularly good kit for him
I mean unless you need sun for multipliers double rebuff is the same as sun
i did forget he sets rebuff
i guess the addition of the max move is also not nothing
mine is only 1/5 but ill try it
Still can rebuff and set sun even at 1/5
Hot to the touch wastes time even if already paralyzed?

