Damage Challenge

[crude sandal]

Also, Chase or NC Blue for Wally?

[civic island]

I got the miss, but forgot the gers, damn

[vernal condor]

chase is always better

just that blue is more consistent

[forest forge]

Why is chase better than blue

[vernal condor]

circle is multiplicative, blue's passive is additive

also chase got evasion

[cursive linden]

Wow

[warped gulch]

Is that 2 supp -> Lillie ?

[cursive linden]

Yes.

[forest forge]

Just use the highest power sync in the game he hits all types

[warped gulch]

Ngl, i really think he is the best for f2p fairy

[vernal condor]

...I guess Gladion is good for fairy specifically

[warped gulch]

[vernal condor]

how much did mina get again

[forest forge]

Just kidding don’t use resources gladion sucks

Maybe 200k max

[cursive linden]

Desperate time calls for desperate measures

[warped gulch]

L Lillie got like 370k

[vernal condor]

ok gladion isnt getting 370k

[forest forge]

Gladion only has double down 3 and nothing else

[cosmic wing]

Gladion pb will save us trust

[forest forge]

And 272 attack at level 150 ex

[lapis yarrow]

Are SS Nemona and Poppy bad plays?

[warped gulch]

Why Poppy ?

Oh you meant as a Sync spammer ?

[lapis yarrow]

yeah

trying to get a good score this DC as my grass one stunk and I didn't bother trying to better it lol

[civic island]

Forgot the gears for this, but it's easy enough
At least 1M

[cunning rock]

The fact that this team gets as high NC Blue + Melony

[vernal condor]

penny at home

[forest forge]

Fairy same tier as poison for least good units huh

Almost full Wally check status

[warped gulch]

You are so bad Gladion

[cursive linden]

I want friday to come already

My desire to kill starts to bubbling

[vernal condor]

not red clicking blizzard t1

[vernal condor]

ok hum

replace irida by egg glaceon

[cursive linden]

NO

HAIL AND ICE ZONE

[vernal condor]

ah wait red has a hail passive

[cursive linden]

https://tenor.com/view/kira-laugh-death-note-red-eyes-maniacal-gif-5812705

[vernal condor]

but hail wastes time

[crude sandal]

Irida protects you from hail at least

[vernal condor]

you yes, not the opp

[cursive linden]

x2.4 SYNC MULTIPLIER GO BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[vagrant ivy]

katherine winning

[cursive linden]

[crude sandal]

Does it matter when you literally need a DoT status multiplier like burn or poison ?

[grave spade]

Maybe Gladion can get Tech EX role as a tech unit to save him

[vernal condor]

lol

[grave spade]

1.5x extra sync on top of 1.5x extra sync

[vagrant ivy]

you guys are desperate enough to try base gladion?

damn

[sacred badger]

is it time?

[cursive linden]

Desperate time calls for desperate measures

[grave spade]

I don’t think i’ve said this here yet but I really hate the meta for this mode

[cursive linden]

Why?

[vernal condor]

bro dont use colress

[jolly violet]

Why haven't someone try BP Valerie yet

[cursive linden]

Why Colress?

[warped gulch]

I was wrong about f2p Fighting, sr you are not the worst

[vernal condor]

because she's worse than lillie by default

[grave spade]

BP Valerie would waste so long getting set up

[warped gulch]

ST Fairy is the worst

[cursive linden]

Because i am trying with NY Lisia

[vagrant ivy]

katherine best f2p in fairy ST

[sacred badger]

who'd be your sync accel?

[cunning rock]

ST Bug is far more painful, literally our F2P option was Viola

[misty forge]

[faint quiver]

Reuse my 3v3 Fairy team with SS Gladion for 1 mil.
Too cheap to candy Wally twice.

[warped gulch]

ST Bug at least we can use dps with Noland

[grave spade]

How are you getting 1 million damage on Marnie, am I just missing something

I’m getting 400k

[vernal condor]

the fury cutter spam lmao

[vernal condor]

spam bulk up

[sacred badger]

who are you gonna be using for sync accel-ing?

[vernal condor]

bp barry

[misty forge]

Need good flinches with Bianca

Perfect flinches would bet you an extra sync

Net*

[sacred badger]

redlax is in there thoough?

[misty forge]

So 1.6mil

Probably

[vernal condor]

and ?

sync with both

[misty forge]

Maybe even 1.7

[sacred badger]

wait really hmm

[misty forge]

But I just want 1 mil so I don't bother doing more

[rapid sparrow]

I hate fairy

Would Bede or SSGladion be better here?

Both 3/5

No SSWally curse that thing

[forest forge]

Ss gladion > bede for sure

[rapid sparrow]

ST?

Is it because bede needs confusion

And that's time consuming

[forest forge]

Isn’t bede psychic

[rapid sparrow]

No

Fairy

This bede

[vagrant ivy]

haven’t seen any bede runs yet

[cursive linden]

[forest forge]

Maybe bede then idk I don’t have that unit and haven’t seen anybody use him yet

[warped gulch]

What is this ?

So small

[cursive linden]

Rei's Damage Challenge spreadsheets

[rapid sparrow]

Confusion messes up the timer though

[warped gulch]

This one

[rapid sparrow]

I don't have any other Fairy damage dealer

[forest forge]

Confuse with Zapdos

[rapid sparrow]

Lawl

[cursive linden]

[rapid sparrow]

[lapis yarrow]

Got a video for this run? What's the strat?

[rapid sparrow]

Sigh let me go cry over my sswally-less run

Back after testing bede out

[misty forge]

Just sync Accel + flinch while spamming bulk up between moves

You can afford to have him attacking 3-4 times depending on timings

Which isn't too hard to do

You reset for T1 buddy move flinch

And see from there

Bianca COULD also net you some dodges

I got none

But with dodges or/and better flinches you can definitely squeeze an extra sync in

Mpr on Bianca TM proccing more than once would also help

[vagrant ivy]

slightly improved the run

but I think she won’t get to 5 sync moves so it’s all gears and damage rolls left

[rapid sparrow]

Bede not good enough because Gallade snaps out of confusion way too quick

I only managed to land 2 syncs on him confused

Will see if Gladion can do better

[zealous coral]

How are you guys scoring so high?
I can't even pass 150k on most typings, except maybe rock and fairy

[vagrant ivy]

what’s ur team

[rain copper]

In order to get high scores you must follow specific strats. You can find explanation on them in the pins

[crude sandal]

How do you buff Wally with Chase and Melony?

[rapid sparrow]

Yeah, Bede is my best bet
My only way to score higher is rng confusion to not go in 2 moves from Wally

I thought lessen confusion 8 makes him less likely to hit himself, not remove it in 2 turns

Sigh

[cloud timber]

god run with ss wally gets confusion lasting 4 turns, it can last for only 1 so there's a 1/4 chance

[rapid sparrow]

Unfortunately I have no SSWally

[cloud timber]

that one will have confusion last until final sync which is 7th

[rapid sparrow]

I rely on Bede Max move

So do I just save my confusion for my last 2 syncs

Instead

Of the first 2 syncs

Bede's syncs that is

[cloud timber]

well you can get a run saving it for just the last sync first, then the last 2

but if you get 4 turn confusion it can last for 4 syncs

getting to 7th sync with confusion up the whole time takes a lot of rng too outside of confusion duration rng

[crude sandal]

No confusion and Wally's 2nd sync didn't crit

[paper anchor]

Can someone please send optimal wally grid

[crude sandal]

What move level?

[paper anchor]

3/5

[scenic grotto]

I can only assume that’s better than Bede without EX

[zealous coral]

Okay
So...you just slow enemies down, juice up the striker, spam ex sync and gg?

[crude sandal]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/12801/28202?s=3&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=13016403&g=AAECAwQFCQweHykrLzI0NQ&x=true

[paper anchor]

Thank you so much !

[crude sandal]

That depends on the level

Every Monday/Tuesday is Single Target. Every Thursday/Friday is 3v3

Today is Tuesday, so it's 3v1, means you need to find a tech unit

[cloud timber]

don't actually need quick tempo so you can grab disarming voice sde 5 and some green tiles

[vast glade]

Who is the spammer on this team?

[faint quiver]

No spammers. You just play as usual.

[sacred badger]

wtf how D:

[vast glade]

Thanks

[vernal condor]

stun spore spam

[faint quiver]

Main thing is the mpr refresh for Gladion and Red.

[sacred badger]

hmm

[vernal condor]

would be better with a 2/5 chase

[scenic grotto]

Just realised something
My lowest 3v3 I have is more than 800k damage
My lowest 3v1 I have is just over 300k damage

[sacred badger]

did you sync with both supports?

[vernal condor]

yes

[crude sandal]

LMFAO, the 1st EQ missed Chase

[vernal condor]

but only 1 might be better

(being blue for SpD drops)

[sacred badger]

did you grab propulsion tiles or nah?

[vernal condor]

serena never clicks her tm

[sacred badger]

hmm. okay gonna try

[sacred badger]

whosse the tank btw?

nc blue?

[vernal condor]

blue

serena could too, but not chase

[fiery rose]

Today is not a good day for the f2p

[zealous coral]

Like this?

[fiery rose]

Like, this is grim as hell.

[crude sandal]

Marnie yes, but I see no sync spammers

But maybe if she's 3/5, you'd have a chance

Also EQ missed Chase again

[cloud timber]

above what base gladion can do which actually has been a serious consideration for some people lol

[cunning rock]

This did better than Lodge Lillie

[zealous coral]

Valentine Serena has paralyse for 2 energy, or is that too expensive?

[rain copper]

She is not a sync spammer

#1261142582688223233 you can see a list of sync spammer here

[oak dune]

Did I cook

[sacred badger]

did you use troublemaker 1?

[vernal condor]

No it wastes time

[vagrant ivy]

worse than katherine wtf

she gets only that?

[zealous coral]

So it has to be one of those 12 no matter what?

[rain copper]

You want to use either Barry, Colress, Elio or Melony

Do note that despite being the most efficient sync spammer, Melony requires a speed support. That's why you see Melony + NC Blue core often here

[crude sandal]

But if you have SS Wally, then NC Blue is out

Unless you don't have Chase

[true locust]

Chase better then nc blue?

[crude sandal]

Definitely better this time

[true locust]

You get less from sync and no 2 spe def

Low

Its not red for cirlce boost

[crude sandal]

Especially since SS Wally has Discombobulate for more chance of missing

[true locust]

You never use it lol

Its waist time

[crude sandal]

Well, this is what I used
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/12801/28202?s=5&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=13016403&g=AAECAwQFBwkKHh8pKzI0NQ&x=true

[sacred badger]

@vernal condor thanks!

[zealous coral]

All of them are 5/5 except colress (4/5) but only melony is ex. I assume that makes melony the better choice

[rain copper]

You only want to attack with Wally once

[sacred badger]

i managed to get 4 mp refreshes.

[vernal condor]

wish i had 2/5 chase

what

no don't spam tm with chase

[sacred badger]

oh you dont?

[rain copper]

That depends on the dmg dealer you want to use

[sacred badger]

hmm

[vernal condor]

of course i don't mine is 1/5

[sacred badger]

hrm

[vernal condor]

i'll upload a video later today

(much later today im in class)

[sacred badger]

gotcha

[zealous coral]

For fairy I have 2/5 sygna nemona and 2/5 Xmas lisia

[crude sandal]

You mean NY Lisia

[rain copper]

They are not breaking past 200k pts

For single target stages you want to look for sync nukers, mostly tech

[crude sandal]

If it was 3v3 then maybe you can crack 1M with them, but they're not 3v1 material

[rain copper]

Well 2/5 for both don't unlock sync multipliers yet

[vagrant ivy]

SS nemona did 530k at 3/5

[rain copper]

So 1m is farfetched even in 3v3

[vagrant ivy]

maybe play rough spam is more favorable for her than sync rushing

idk

[crude sandal]

Why Colress

[vagrant ivy]

go katherine

[rain copper]

Your best bet is Pal Marnie

[cursive linden]

Paralysis + def debuff

[rain copper]

*Summer Marnie sorry

[vagrant ivy]

did not see that

[vagrant ivy]

can agree

[sacred badger]

Hrm she runs out of gauge too fast

[vernal condor]

yeah you need to time chase's tm uses

instead of spamming them

[slender venture]

Why both Chase and NC Blue

[sacred badger]

i'll check your replay later

[sacred badger]

cuz stun spore

huh, a bit more, it a copy

[cunning rock]

A little better, SEUN every sync and her B Play Rough

[sacred badger]

okay i get it

[crude sandal]

All syncs crit and I got a sync with Interference Sync

And still have CS2 on my main DD

2.4M with SS Wally, that probably requires a lot of misses

[zealous coral]

Uh
Which cookie do you get head start 1 ftom

[crude sandal]

[zealous coral]

....

Lemme guess - they're from gauntlet

[zealous coral]

Brilliant

[true locust]

Wat is top1 score and who?

[cloud timber]

2.4m from jp

[crude sandal]

The only way to get the score is either lots of misses or proc confusion before Wally's sync

[vapid kernel]

Damn this challenge is tough

[cloud timber]

had to have 4 turn confusion and 7 syncs and some chase shenanigans in there

[true locust]

Ok ty

[crude sandal]

Yeah

[vagrant ivy]

top clear must be extreme rng hell

[crude sandal]

Requires Gobsmack proc, which is 50/50

Must use Disarming Voice after every move Wally makes

[glacial robin]

https://youtu.be/0RTyKygNXEQ

[glacial robin]

Could have gotten around 50k more if I didn't forget to B Dazzling Gleam before Wally's 2nd sync lol

[crude sandal]

Wait a minute

[sacred badger]

there we go o-o

[brazen dew]

Missed a crit on 2nd sync

~750k possible

[brazen dew]

[jaunty stratus]

Lol pathetic

[lethal siren]

Confusion doens't last long

So am having problem with it

[thin wren]

how has ss wally gotten

[cloud timber]

2.4m peak

[azure vine]

What

This is rubbish

[thin wren]

I read that as 20.4m peak and was like W H A T

[thin wren]

do you have ss hau

[vapid kernel]

Trash

Synced 4 times with Katherine

[vast glade]

What move order are you using? I think I am missing the timing of moves

[crude sandal]

Full multipliers?

[lethal siren]

I could do only 3 sync

[azure vine]

nope

[vapid kernel]

Yes with Super Powered 3

[cloud timber]

but what if you ran fast track 9 on katherine and did redlax/melony with ft1

[vapid kernel]

Hmm

[cloud timber]

adaman/redlax/melony was able to sustain gauge with the only speed buffs being ft1 melony

katherine does not have the same speed stat but with her speed buffs she can compensate

also catalytic infliction helps

her innate

[vapid kernel]

Sounds like a lot of work to get an extra 100,000

[cloud timber]

don't have to

[nova remnant]

Hmm

[lethal siren]

Should I not use any move of Wally before his sync?

[cloud timber]

only moves wally should use are his b move when he gets access and after final sync

[lethal siren]

Fairy wish too

[cloud timber]

yea

so moves in terms of attacks

[lethal siren]

I got only 3 syncs in my first try

[cloud timber]

so uhhh you're using nc blue/melony right

[lethal siren]

Yes

[cloud timber]

don't discharge more than once

[lethal siren]

Ye I don't

I used his tm for +6 sp atk +3 crit

[prisma quail]

Wait, the sync pair tracker website shows OG Rachel and Sawyer can be EXd.

In game they cant.

Are they going to be soon?

[lethal siren]

They will ig

[prisma quail]

Wrong channel ☠️

[lethal siren]

Lol

[cloud timber]

yeah i can't imagine where you'd be losing so much time

7 syncs is very doable with that comp if confusion isn't getting in the way

[lethal siren]

Oh I used interference sync also

Should I not?

[cloud timber]

7 syncs under confusion is possible but difficult

would have been the ideal run and i was pretty close to getting it

[rare apex]

so gamers, what's the strat here for us with flimsy fairy rosters?

[cloud timber]

just run with anything you get really, confusion or no confusion, one of my 1.8m runs had no confusion

katherine

[rare apex]

katherine cope? based

[cloud timber]

katherine > lodge lillie > mina

[rare apex]

my best was like 467k with a 1/5 ss wally

forgor to take adrenaline 1 off of him xd

[cloud timber]

yeah you can just throw bp barry on there and run it

[rare apex]

was running nc blue/melony as teammates

[cloud timber]

katherine/ss wally/bp barry can work

gain a nuker with multipliers and no mega penalty

[azure hornet]

I think I have to invest into Pal Candice to get 1 million on Multitarget Ice

Oh wait Hala is right there

[cloud timber]

yeah we're doing hala

1m should be fine

[misty forge]

I hit 780k with BP Barry and Sylveon Eggmon kek

With premium options she can hit 1.6-7 mil

[rare apex]

hala's going to be big funny

[misty forge]

https://tenor.com/view/hala-crabominable-gambling-reddit-hala-pokemon-gif-9069253590970622901

[azure hornet]

I literally made this gif

[misty forge]

https://tenor.com/view/hala-pokemon-pokemon-sun-and-moon-hariyama-crabominable-gif-3846495479714362823

[hidden fog]

SS Gladion awful pair

Noodle damage

Uber tier? More like goober tier

[cloud timber]

yea chase should be better than nc blue, just make sure not to set him as tank

bc reactive passive

[plush palm]

shit

[vernal condor]

lillie or katherine gaming

[plush palm]

might as well give 1/5 marnie a shot

she does have innate rising tide

[waxen hamlet]

Does colress or bp barry have a way to lower special defense?

[plush palm]

nope

spdef debuffs are super exclusive in this game for some reason

the best one i have is ss bren

unless you count pal victor which i guess could be good for certain techs

oh yeah theres ss hilbert too

[copper otter]

Lenora

[fiery rose]

Tbh SpDef debuffs aren't that common in regular Pokemon

[normal parcel]

But it can't paralyze/support ex

Arc lance too can debuff spdef (and paralyze at 3/5)

Arc Steven can debuff spdef too and max defenses for Aaron spam, but it needs to use 3 b moves to do so

But I think a dedicated spdef debuffer is only worth if you have something like smarty pants

[visual mantle]

What's the best Palrena score as of now? 1M possible?

[vernal condor]

900k by me

[visual mantle]

What was the team?

[vernal condor]

nc blue chase

I don't really have the best partners for her lol

[visual mantle]

Can I do C Rosa + Wally?

[vernal condor]

that will probably do less I think

but you can try

[visual mantle]

Alright tysm!

Let's see

[vernal condor]

#1255888121648644197 message

[vapid kernel]

This means a new Fairy tech nuker is coming this halloween

[wanton thicket]

Colress/Holiday Jasmine/SS Wally or Colress/SS Wally/SS Gladion? Wally and Jasmine are 3/5; Gladion is 1/5. Leaning towards the first teamcomp.

[vapid kernel]

Fall Fantina and Aromatisse?

[lethal siren]

Next is triple ice

Nc red

[rare apex]

time for the kahuna to take a stroll to the laguna

red who?

[lethal siren]

Articuno

[rare apex]

https://tenor.com/view/hala-pokemon-pokemon-sun-and-moon-hariyama-crabominable-gif-3846495479714362823

[cursive linden]

Hala can work

1M is achieveable

[unique abyss]

Hmm, in theory is it possible to score 2M with Gladion? iirc there was a 6M run or am I wrong?

[unique abyss]

6M 3v3 of course

[cursive linden]

You're hallucinating

Wait

WHICH GLADION?

[unique abyss]

SS

[cursive linden]

If it's the same strategy as 3v3, then it should be ~2M, no?

[crude sandal]

How did Adam get 2.31M?

[crude sandal]

skipping did 2M with Gladion

[unique abyss]

[crude sandal]

https://youtu.be/QsgETr6Ohck?si=n0VblO2qkxiVDxCp

Status spam is still better with Chase, but still impressive that Gladion can reach 2M

[vagrant ivy]

I don’t even have the cookies to teach him CS2

it’s joever

[unique abyss]

BV auto farm

[rare apex]

i think i did my big cookie farm when lg first dropped

then everyone got cs2/vigi

[crude sandal]

Next is 3v3 ice

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-ice-bird-flying-articuno-gif-8995845

[rare apex]

think i'll try out hala

4 sync tiles + haymaker + able to give himself seup is neato

[vagrant ivy]

you need a lot of energy overcap to get the last tile

I tried gridding him just now

at least +6 E will be needed

[crude sandal]

1st sync with Red with Irida and BP Barry

[vagrant ivy]

blame whoever made ice hammer +10 acc worth 6 energy

[crude sandal]

In terms of Irida's grid, she doesn't have Arctic Arrival

[misty forge]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/16100/74000?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFCQoNEBEUFRgbKCstLi8

4E here

[rare apex]

you can get;

• 3 sync tiles
• haymaker
• tm mpr + super prep

all without energy cap increases

[crude sandal]

What about TM MPR

[crude sandal]

You practically need +10 energy on Hala to get literally everything

[vagrant ivy]

you start with just 1 Tm hm

[rare apex]

actually, could be optimised better

[misty forge]

Yea

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/16100/74000?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBgkKDRARFBUYGycqLS4v

[vagrant ivy]

if you want to do away with redlax you need to invest lots of energy

[rare apex]

there we are

[crude sandal]

Maybe like this
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/16100/74000?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBgkKDRARFBUYGycqLS8

[rare apex]

+10 attack instead of brick break mgr

[vagrant ivy]

I’ll see whether TM mpr will be worth the one less sync tile

[rare apex]

if you can refresh it enough for all of his syncs, i imagine it would be

good ole consistency vs potential

[crude sandal]

I'm still gonna use NC Red

And BP Barry as the sync spammer

Or maybe Hail: P-Moves Up & S-Move Up 5 isn't worth it

But at the same time, you also lose 50% extra damage without ice zone

[vagrant ivy]

well hala is there for people without nc red anyways

like me

[rare apex]

and me

hala/nc blue/melony, simpl' as

or maybe elio if gauge is a problemo

166 speed before grid/gear at 140 EX is for funny kahuna man

[cursive linden]

What does Hala's TM do?

4 Atk 2 Crit?

[rare apex]

gives him +6 atk and seup if gridded

[cursive linden]

Nice

Hala + NC Blue + Elio should work

Bit i think it needs Speed+ All twice

[rare apex]

196 speed after gear/grid is ow

[vagrant ivy]

i'll probably use chase for speed tbh

don't know too much about NC blue's kit

[vagrant ivy]

as slow as a crab huh

[rare apex]

clearly to supplement the best passive

slow power 1

[vagrant ivy]

[nova remnant]

Am I really gonna ex hala for the next reset lol

My only other choice for 3v3 is HLeon

Which way terrible multipliers man

[vagrant ivy]

my guy just wants to go on a stroll to the laguna

[civic island]

Trading 10% extra dps with no gauge at all, what a deal

[vagrant ivy]

HLeon needs someone to get hail for him tho

and hail is poor in DC since it eats up time

[nova remnant]

Am probably gonna ex Hala

[vagrant ivy]

already EX'd hala and got him +6E...

[nova remnant]

I like his ex and I do like him

[vagrant ivy]

but without an invested colress i probably won't be doing too well

colress's still at 1/5 on my end

[nova remnant]

Oh right colress

[vagrant ivy]

just have to do the chase-melony core like before

[nova remnant]

Lmfao

Mine is 2/5

Got him twice on the last batch of tickets when it was updated

[vagrant ivy]

i get that people will probably run stuff like redlax hala colress

that team core appears popular for physical attackers

and get more sync nodes on hala by dropping his TM SEUN

anyways

is my katherine score of 538k still the highest

[tender patrol]

Dang it

Too bad mgr9 triggers only until maxed stats

[fluid anvil]

NC Red - Chase - Melony will be better than NC Red with Irida, right ?

[frail fulcrum]

Is there any good Summer Marnie strats here? Is 3/5 ss nemkna better?

I dont have ss wally

[cursive linden]

Chase's bleeding vs hail damage

[vagrant ivy]

SS nemona has not reached 700k, at least from scores that i've seen here

SMarnie is likely better but since i don't have her you've gotta ask others, sorry

[cursive linden]

30% sync boost + 100% sync boost

Yeah, this one's gonna be hard

[vagrant ivy]

at least melony gets the theme skill boost

[frail fulcrum]

The hard part for marnie is shes a slow setup since she has to click bulk up a llt

[fluid anvil]

100% from what ?
Also hail chip and Iridas setting hail + zone is as slow as Arc Cynthias was

[cursive linden]

For the first time in history, Melony gets the theme skill boost

[frail fulcrum]

And the usual suspects for supports dont lower special attack for devastation

[jaunty stratus]

Has anyone tried mina?

[cursive linden]

50% zone + 50% from Hail: S - MOve UP 5

Or am i missing smth?

[fluid anvil]

its x1,5 from zone + an additive 50%
vs x1,3 from Chase circle .. but you get way more syncs with Chase vs Irida

[cursive linden]

Oh....

[vagrant ivy]

which

base mina has not broken 200k

no clue on SS mina

[cursive linden]

You want to nuke with SS Mina?

[vagrant ivy]

btw i tried a variation with SS hau bp barry katherine, mainly for fairy zone but it doesn't see much improvements over chase melony katherine and is more RNG hell with para procs

[frail fulcrum]

Just at a glance, TL Lillie seems better

Heck she might be better than marnie...

[jaunty stratus]

My lillie isn't ex though

[vagrant ivy]

lillie has done like 430k in a run that i've seen

[jaunty stratus]

My best score is 300k with palrena

So low

[vagrant ivy]

she suffers from trap eating up time and needing 6 turns to fully setup

[jaunty stratus]

Exed?

[vagrant ivy]

ya

palrena is doing 900k with nc blue + chase

since she can stun spore spam

[jaunty stratus]

I don't have nc blue

And my chase is 1/5 (exr tho)

[vagrant ivy]

actually i take that back theres a run with EX mina at 308k

[jaunty stratus]

Not much better than my palrena

[west creek]

It was a fun ride, i admit it

[vagrant ivy]

on the same level as BP valerie i think

brother you literally photoshopped the same score with base erika last DC

we don't fall for the same trick twice here

[jaunty stratus]

Btw why shouldn't we use chase tm

[vagrant ivy]

i'd only use it once for crit but it takes longer than sing i think

thats probs why

[jaunty stratus]

Ah

[vagrant ivy]

anyways im summarizing the scores so far

[west creek]

I tried to be funny

[jaunty stratus]

Prob with chase is he has this passive that reacts whenever he's hit

And eq will always hit him

[vagrant ivy]

it looks like SMarnie, SS gladion and SS wally all broke 1m with SS wally being the clear leader

a run with ss wally supporting lodge lillie scored over 400k

[jaunty stratus]

My ss wally is just 1/5

[vagrant ivy]

a run with EX hilbert and colress into EX base mina got over 300k

[jaunty stratus]

Wait do you mean smarnie?

[vapid kernel]

Wow? 1/5 Dawn OP all this timw

[west creek]

Summer Marnie

[west creek]

She really is

[vagrant ivy]

my run with katherine chase melony got 538k but nobody else has tried her yet so could be higher

did have like +10% sync dmg from gears tho

[vapid kernel]

I think yours is top

[vagrant ivy]

yeah thats to be expected

for now yea

yesterday i remember someone saying that if mina gets her extra sync she could beat katherine/lodge lillie

whatever happened to that...

[west creek]

It may be

I did a sad 110k with her

[frail fulcrum]

What was the marnie strat

[vagrant ivy]

not a SMarnie user so no clue on the details but @misty forge 's SMarnie run had ss wally and nc bianca as teamates

3/5 on smarnie, 3/5 on bianca, 1/5 on ss wally

apparently he scored 1.1m

[frail fulcrum]

No wally or bianca sadly

Id never pull wally but im sad i had to skip bianca

I saw a 500k+ strat with lt surge and melony which is kinda funny

I think i can hit that anyway with bp barry and sc steven. I got like 470k with my first sync missing crit

[dusty solar]

how on earth

[misty forge]

Optimally she can almost get 1.7/8 mil yea

Bianca is amazing in 1v3

Sync Accel, team evasion, Def drops, fast flinching move

Supp ex

[vast glade]

What grids and move order?

[sharp roost]

I got 5/5 Marnie

Who to pair her with? Hmm

[crude sandal]

Summer?

[sharp roost]

Yep

[crude sandal]

SS Wally definitely

Because her innate is Devastation

[sharp roost]

Wally has better multipliers?

[crude sandal]

Oh wait, her innate it Rising

[crude sandal]

If he's 3/5, then yeah, he's better

[sharp roost]

Yes, rising tide

Oh well there goes Marnie

My Wally is 4/5

Melony + blue right?

[crude sandal]

Chase + Melony

[sharp roost]

I don’t have the strength to reset for dodge attacks

[vapid kernel]

Mina attack stat is miserable

[royal jolt]

EXISTENCE IS TORTURE

[vernal condor]

tf is helena doing here

what are you cooking

[royal jolt]

Lmao
I just wanted a team without Champion Blue

After I reach 1M with the meta teams, I like to mess around with it

[normal parcel]

There are much better units than Helena (if you have them) including classic Elesa, SS Hilbert, DC blue, arc Lance (3/5+)

[royal jolt]

I do have them ^^
I just saw Helena with that sweet evasion and queue cutter 1 and thought

"What if?"

[clever wasp]

I gotta get Gladion to 1m somehow. 200k short

[royal jolt]

There we go, lmao

[pallid girder]

Budget Chase ig lol

[vagrant ivy]

helena new meta???

unreal

[clever wasp]

Wait whats she do

[royal jolt]

Lick with two Hostile Environment 1 skills
Evasion
Queue Cutter 1

[normal parcel]

Is queue cutter 1 worth it, they said that impatient on elio wasn't worth it

[royal jolt]

I mean, considering you're already tanking with Helena, I'd say it's worth it

Not much else that you can pick up on her grid, you know?

[normal parcel]

I mean it really saves time, or it wastes it?

But maybe can help with melony gauges

[royal jolt]

It saves time. Sadly, I didn't record it because I didn't expect it to happen so quickly

[royal jolt]

That's another struggle. I even considered getting Wally +6E for that Team Speedy Entry 1 node because Melony was running out of gauges quite often

But, I guess it doesn't happen every time? 😯

[tiny mist]

Is there a way to cross 1 mil without 3/5 sswally?

I do have gladion and nemona

1/5 ss wally too

[vagrant ivy]

any predictions for hala score on ice 3v3

[civic island]

I ran this

Penny should work fine too

[fallen trail]

ohhhhhh iono

i have her 1/5

redlax wasnt working for me could this work

[royal jolt]

Redlax clear is very tight, even with SS Wally 🥹

[fallen trail]

yeahhh

[royal jolt]

Oof
1/5 SS Wally

[fallen trail]

whats the best score someone’s gotten w volo?

[civic island]

Should work fine as well
I wasnt fishing for a miss, but used iono tm mpr to cover that +3 msun

[misty forge]

Probably 550/600k because of how slow his animations are?

[fallen trail]

he wouldnt use metronome until the end

and then pray its hyper beam or giga impact loooool

[tiny mist]

I ran cred gladion and 1/5ss wally

managed the 1 mil

Thanks all

Didnt get the rng I needed, should b able to hit around 1.3 1.4 mil easily with gladion

[fallen trail]

whats champion red doing

[fluid wave]

Can Valerie's mawile sync nuke outperform nemonas jigglypuffs when full invested?

[normal parcel]

Highly doubt it

[tiny mist]

Cred I mean classic red

redlax

[fallen trail]

they added classic red???

(i am being intentionally obtuse, redlax is not classic red)

[pallid girder]

Redlax is for SEUN. SS Gladion is the few exception that sync spam is not worthy for him.

[glossy token]

alright.
fairy tech: lodge lillie & mina
fairy ex strike: bp valerie
fairy strike: valerie
fairy support: lillie, penny, sycamore, lodge leaf

99% sure my best comp is just colress bp valerie ex elio again

then again maybe rebuff from penny > elio?

lets see. rebuff + 2x supp sync, but i cant use her tm without giving colress gradual healing so no +spatk to help that dmg at all; im guessing elio is still better

[turbid vault]

If I got 1 penny, 3 gladion, 3 wally. Should I use gladion or nah?

[glossy token]

what are your move levels

oh wait

3/5 is what you mean

then yeah gladion

[turbid vault]

So accelerator better for single target? K thanks

[glossy token]

i mean

[turbid vault]

Oh you changed

[glossy token]

per the pins

use them together

[turbid vault]

Gladion is highest score but I thought maybe with penny only 1 he is missing alot of damave

[glossy token]

but since you dont have the same move levels

gladion seems to outperform wally's damage

[brisk shale]

I got to 1m with 3/5 penny without missing

[glossy token]

wait

hold on

[brisk shale]

So you can get 1m too

Just dunno if it'll require a miss

[glossy token]

ah ok its 2 clears in 1 video. yeah gladion seems to be the preferred dmg

but if you have ex melony and nc blue

then wally

[turbid vault]

Maybe I'll do wally as the main just to switch it up from the 3v3

Not sure why I worry so much about how far above 1mil haha

[glossy token]

the difference between wally's 1.891 and gladion's 1.617 is that melony can status spam to get in at least one more sync

triple fairy cant

you get more damage overall, but you dont fit in as many huge syncs

[vernal condor]

yknow a DC sucks when there are only 4 submissions 12 hours after reset

none being f2p

[glossy token]

i mean

i just recorded this

will see how fast i can submit the video, i have to leave in 45 mins lmao

if you count valerie having sp3 and colress having hs1 as non-f2p tho then it doesnt count

[teal harness]

triple ice, its finally nc red's time to shine

[true locust]

Next is ice?

[teal harness]

I think I'll try with bp barry and egg glaceon

[teal harness]

yup, triple ice

[true locust]

Hmm

Nc blue red melony

[pallid girder]

Chase.

[true locust]

Its tripel

So nc blue is better

[glossy token]

if anyone has optimization suggestions lmk

[acoustic chasm]

[true locust]

You need para all so red not freze some one

[glossy token]

wait i forgot to show the kits

beans

[acoustic chasm]

4 syncs with SEUN and -6 sp.atk wtf is this damage

[pallid girder]

Red will only use blizzard and it's 10% freeze. Just live with rng.

[thick stump]

so is ss gladion the play? no penny no ss wally

[west creek]

i'd say yes

[true locust]

Yeap gladion

[fluid anvil]

chase also paralyzes all 3 enemies

[true locust]

Yeap but slower

[fluid anvil]

evasion + sprint makes up

[true locust]

I like chase when he avoid get hit

When he get hit its soo mutch time waist

So i pref nc blue

[pallid girder]

The no premium support f2p score is so abysmal no one try to upload

[vagrant ivy]

i would do bp barry melony katherine

if i could record it

[glossy token]

i mean

[vagrant ivy]

probs getting at least 300k

[glossy token]

i was literally just making this so i can submit from my phone to save time

will delete that once i have it copied into the form

[pallid girder]

Bug st is really saved by fury cutter dps so it's not this bad.

[glossy token]

alr

submitted now i run out the door

if anyone has optimization recs feel free to ping

[acoustic chasm]

1M feels impossible without Wally, either as enabler or the main nuke

And I was going to select SS Hilbert from the tech banner

[glossy token]

i mean

hilbert def has better overall utlity

[acoustic chasm]

Yeah and my bug roster sucks ass lol

[glossy token]

ditto

i think hes still preferable tbh it just means we need more accessible fairy units that arent support

[acoustic chasm]

I'm trying Summer Marnie but so far I'm nowhere close to 1M
Gonna try cooking for longer

[slender venture]

Nah SS Wally is better than Hilbert

Like sure Hilbert is more versatile

[fluid anvil]

Fairy Arc and Bug Arc will retire them both

[slender venture]

But SS Wally is used in the best fairy team that can clear almost everything

[acoustic chasm]

I'm waiting for datamine before selecting

But I doubt we'll get arc next month

[glossy token]

yeah my guess is next arc will be anni.5

and even that is blisteringly optimistic

the upcoming year anni events being new arcs + something like sygna lear feels more likely

[rare apex]

only got around 510k with ss wally and katherine, it's out of my hands i think

argh . . . my first sub-1m score

[pallid girder]

1/5 SS Wally alone can do 700K with the right supports.

[copper otter]

Using SS Wally is garbage, anyone better?

[slender venture]

SS Gladion but together with Wally

[copper otter]

tried that, only 600k

[ivory kestrel]

busy with irl stuff at the moment... say i dont have ss wally nor penny, which would give the higher score? 3/5 SS Gladion exr, or 3/5 Pal Serena ex?

[slender venture]

No other options beside that

[copper otter]

not even Bede?

[slender venture]

SS Wally hss zone + rebuff

There is no more compression

Bede doesn't come close

Or wait Bede has field role?

[copper otter]

yes

he also has spdef drops

[slender venture]

Then he should do easy 1 mil but Wally better

[copper otter]

idc about wally better, i just want 1 mil

wally already bad to me

[slender venture]

They both rely on similar stuff

Confusion

It's a similar experience

[copper otter]

i know, but spdef drops are much more reliable for Bede and Max move

[pallid girder]

I only see 1 Bede and he barely hit 1M.

[copper otter]

what move level?

again, what move level on Bede?

[pallid girder]

It's on reddit.

[copper otter]

good, 3/5

i have 5/5

[slender venture]

Just looked at Bede grid

He has shit sync stuff

[copper otter]

look at his passive

[slender venture]

Yeah but Wally has double his spatk

With similar multipliers

And zone

Rebuff

[pallid girder]

I think the expreience would be worse if you think SS Wally sucks.

[copper otter]

ok anyways gonna do Bede

[slender venture]

That is my point here not to shit on Bede

[copper otter]

Bede didn't crit sync that could have gotten to 1 mil

k. next.

I hate ST DCs

WALLY CAN YOU FREAKING CRIT

DID.

NOT

CRIT

I am going to scream.

yea no, i'm doing this tomorrow. Waly cannot crit to save his dignity in my eyes

what a garbage unit

[true locust]

Wally is garbage agree:)

Its just too old on this days

[copper otter]

I need to see if SS Gladion was used for 1 mil.

I really don't want to have to deal with confusion just ruining a run for me

[slender venture]

Yes he got 2 mil

Penny, SS Wally and Gladion

Basically same strat as in 3v3

[pallid girder]

I rmb someone tried no confusion run and it's still 1M.

[slender venture]

But trying for no confusion is also rng

It's 50/50

[pallid girder]

No confusion is easier bc you just roll it once.
Roll confusion on every syncs has more rng.

[vernal condor]

SO CLOSE

[copper otter]

LEAR????

hold on, what is being sync rushed????

because that..... gives me an idea.

[vernal condor]

Stun Spore

You need so much gauge for it to work

[copper otter]

hmmm...

I want to cook.

[pallid girder]

SS Lear is kinda cracked as a dmg enabler.
+40% from his base passive & +20% from grid tile & x1.1 with Circle

[vernal condor]

btw i tried Chase instead of Lear

Double circle takes way too much time lmao

Maybe if you dodge all moves it might work

[copper otter]

HOLD ON

BRO.

I HAD 1 MIL BUT THEN GLADION MISSED A FLEUR CANNON

[vernal condor]

bro got the fleur cannon miss everyone wants

[copper otter]

991959

[vernal condor]

except HE doesn't want

[copper otter]

I'm IN PAIN

[vernal condor]

what's the team

[copper otter]

SS Lear/SS Wally/SS Gladion

[vernal condor]

don't you have nc blue or smth

wally gladion iono got the mil

[copper otter]

I do, but this is more fun because SS lear actually has team smart command

ok, this is actually fun to use

GOT IT

Ayy lmao

[vapid kernel]

SS LEAR DC UNIT?

[vernal condor]

Yes

[vapid kernel]

Just candy serena to 4/5 easy

[vapid kernel]

So weak

[copper otter]

Is SS Lear the fastest Spdef debuffer unit so far?

[vernal condor]

nah lol

[copper otter]

Aside from Arc Lance

[vernal condor]

any fake tears is faster

dahlia might be faster

[copper otter]

If you're going for DPS, yea, but in DC context, will she be faster of a supporting Debuffer?

[vernal condor]

SC Rosa does -3 per Seed Flare

yes I think

[copper otter]

i thought she only did -2

unless 3/5?

[vernal condor]

-2 at base, -3 with grid

[pallid girder]

SGardenia uses 2 turns only to debuff team -6 spdef

[copper otter]

ahh

SGardenia has Steel Zone though

[pallid girder]

Both Dahila and SS Hilbert use 3 turns.
Dahila has benefit of drop acc as well and fish for dodging.

SS Lear needs total 2 syncs so he's just way slower.

[vernal condor]

yeah if you want to drop SpD with Lear you only do it once

[copper otter]

I did it twice on my end and still got 1 mil

granted, i wasn't using a sync rushing build

[vernal condor]

yeah

[misty forge]

Hilbert can also double as spammer

[fluid anvil]

so she is the fastest right now?

[brisk shale]

Has anyone done mina?

[pallid girder]

AOE yes, ST no (ArcLance).
Also I only count turns not seconds she uses, but like the other said she summons steel zone so it actually takes a bit longer.

[vernal condor]

she got uuuh 250k smth iirc

[copper otter]

Actually though.... Steel ST might be really fun now with SuGardenia/ArcSteven/SS Lear

[vernal condor]

who spams

[copper otter]

granted, idek if sync rushing is viable

[vernal condor]

do you just go dps mode

[copper otter]

DPS mode

[vernal condor]

lol sure

but then steel 3v3

[copper otter]

Idk, sounds fun

Make it rain baybee

[vernal condor]

if only mc master bp had ex

[pallid girder]

SGardenia's steel zone set is bad.
She summons it only once and only from the first Metal Sound.

[vernal condor]

She has extension 5 tho

so it lasts for 4 syncs

(assuming spam and not regular dps)

(regular dps only 2 syncs, even less)

[open grotto]

Who can I switch for dps or a skip for me?

[vapid kernel]

Ah yes, the "flying" types

[vapid kernel]

You can try Serena

[open grotto]

pink butterflies

[vernal condor]

I don't think serena without ex will get you far

but you sure can try

[open grotto]

At max hit for 270k

With 4 sync moves

[glossy token]

volo isnt f2p

but gg, great clear

[glossy token]

poppy isnt f2p but for compressing colress's screeches and getting in an extra boosted play rough

ill take 3k

if i spent 2 strike candies on her i could try something funky with poppy bp valerie and ex penny but i dont know that i want penny to be my next ex so

[acoustic chasm]

How many buffs does Marnie need to max out her innate? 18?

[glossy token]

hm. poppy has sure crit on 111bp; valerie has +3 to crit on 122bp but also sp3. is it better to go for a final poppy (which is what i did for the above) or would valerie be a better choice?

[crude sandal]

How did Adam get 2.59M?

[cloud timber]

max invest wally with chase and melony most likely, chase has stuff to reach 7 syncs more consistently and 5/5 wally actually uses his fairy zone extension

and by now he probably has really solid gear

2.4m was the same thing with worse gear

[crude sandal]

Hmmmmm, does he have Interference Sync gridded?

[cloud timber]

or at least that's as far as i could figure out

yeah it's needed

not reaching an extra sync without it i -

well chase though

[crude sandal]

Getting over 2M requires another sync, and thar requires a hell lot of evasion proc

[cloud timber]

i think that's less likely than interference sync though still

idk

[crude sandal]

I know for a fact that Discourage is needed

[cloud timber]

yeah you're never dropping discourage

discombobulate is also really bad

[brisk shale]

Yes rising tide caps at 18 buffs

[glossy token]

clicked too fast and missed the end of round screencap but eh its basically negligible who you do the final prs with

man. testing with penny it does seem like if i had her at ex it would boost a Lot

if i rush 2 brs i can get her exr stats and then its just can i ex riley in time for fighting if i do

i think i can

but

[tulip egret]

If I have invested gladion and just 1/5 ss wally, do I use them or blue + melony

[cloud timber]

ss gladion doesn't need a sync rusher from what i've seen so you could run him with wally and like redlax maybe

[tulip egret]

What do you do between turns to run the sync countdown down

Just dps?

[cloud timber]

probably, i haven't watched the videos but you could find them somewhere

[icy pendant]

ik the 3 target clears with ss gladion just stack smun on him and set up debuffs and that takes a very conveninent amount of time

[royal jolt]

Wally missing a crit hurts my soul

Wally missing a crit and not getting interference sync 5 in there destroys my soul

[tulip egret]

Who were his partners?

Thanks

[icy pendant]

3v3 was ss gladion, penny, ss wally

[acoustic chasm]

That's it, don't have the pairs to improve further

[cloud timber]

standard ss gladion team is with wally/penny but i think i saw someone get something with wally/redlax somewhere in here

[dry whale]

This was the best I was able to do shortly after reset , it has 27% boost thanks to skill gear.

Been busy today so haven't had a chance to do more attempts but short of being able to get a 6th sync with Volo I don't see it.

Basically I need the paralysis/misses my run had + 4 more. That's unrealistic.

[fallen trail]

rip

[glossy token]

on the whole, how worth is penny's ex/exr

she has a great kit overall but you really need her at higher /5

[brisk shale]

you have her 1/5?

[glossy token]

yeah

i could candy her

dana is 1/5; heres my current 5* support units

so shes competing for candies with ssa cyn (unlikely; shes complete at 3/5), rika, redlax, and anabel - but also the eventual nc blue when i get him

basically, if i ex/r her for this dc, i would want her to have overall value for it too. i can live with 300k points if that wont actually boost my overall strength as much as someone else

[royal jolt]

WOO
DIANTHA TOO STRONG

[lethal siren]

Noice

Should have used disarming voice to try for confusion for last sync

[royal lodge]

confusion wears out too fast lol

[lethal siren]

Ye

I could make it for the last sync

[copper otter]

Hmmm what's going to be the meta this weekend....

[lethal siren]

For DC?

[copper otter]

yea

Ice weak

[lethal siren]

Nc red ig

Just get to his syncs faster lol

[copper otter]

i don't mean the DDer, i mean the team members

[thick stump]

just stack +10 smun

[lethal siren]

Oh

[thick stump]

chase moment

[lethal siren]

Chase

[thick stump]

and maybe tm mprs

[copper otter]

no Ice zone?

[glossy token]

ok dumb q

[lethal siren]

Irida

[glossy token]

what exactly does nc red do

[copper otter]

how will you sync rush?

[thick stump]

nuke big

[lethal siren]

That's a little problem

[glossy token]

yeah nuke big but

[thick stump]

probably can choose irida or chase, not both

[copper otter]

-2 rebuff, AOE DPS, AOE Sync, Hail, and Guaranteed freeze

[thick stump]

irida would prolly be better tho

[lethal siren]

How much first sync with +10 smun can do?
Irida can lower spe def

[thick stump]

maybe nc rosa as third

[glossy token]

gotcha. ok. so no seun application?

[copper otter]

could you potentially mess with NC red's b move and work on sing that way?

or too slow?

[glossy token]

smun doesnt apply to sync

you want seun

[lethal siren]

Nc red

Has

A passive

[glossy token]

ah

[lethal siren]

More smun

More power up sync

[copper otter]

Me trying to find a funny way to make SS Lear work for next DC

[lethal siren]

He can give himself +7

With protect in grid

Lol

[glossy token]

goddamn

[copper otter]

NC red is cracked

oh god, next week is Fire ST

oh wait, Nc leaf lmao

[fossil igloo]

Took a bit, but I got 1 million.

[fossil igloo]

Hilariously, this is how my first Lodge Lillie attempt went. It was obvious that it was going nowhere.

[royal jolt]

Not the Lodge Lillie attempt 😭

[glossy token]

trapped and sync 😭

[royal jolt]

Interference is the most annoying part of this rotation

[fossil igloo]

She did her best, but I needed Bede.

[royal jolt]

Funny enough, this is how I remembered base Bede was even in the game

[lethal siren]

Chase will be best option