volo 1/5
penny 3/5
mina 3/5
#Damage Challenge
rose basalt
rain copper
Penny and Mina then
rain copper
just play normally for that team
you should planahead in order to stack SMUN for Gladion's B Move
pallid girder
SS Gladion is the rare exception that he doesn't favor sync spam at all. All his dmg is from try maxing SMUN for his 2 bmoves.
cloud timber
yea no other non-sync comes close to gladion's b move really
crude sandal
The only one who kinda can is Ash, but he's only one use and is ST
glad kraken
Lance's B Hyper Beam should as well, but suffers the same issue
visual mantle
You can hit the damage cap with Lance's B-move but yeah that's only 1 instance of damage
pallid girder
ST bmove is not as good as MT Bmove in 3v3 and SS Gladion is the only one that can do 1M x 3(opponents) x 2(uses).
thin wren
yea no other non-sync comes close to gladion's b move really
no sync comes close to max power ss glad b move
vagrant ivy
SS Gladion is the rare exception that he doesn't favor sync spam at all. All his...
poppy gets the majority of her damage from b move spam
granted she normally rotates between thunder wave and b move
not full spam
brisk shale
no sync comes close to max power ss glad b move
bc the b-move gets 400% from smun
and syncs don't
thin wren
hmmmm well maybe Arc cyn max symun sync could come close
but we don't have the recordings
visual mantle
Does the 40% from SMUN apply directly to the moves BP?
brisk shale
iirc it's additive with multipliers
restive galleon
Who should I use as my nuker
cloud timber
out of those selene though idk how well ss lyra performs
pallid girder
If you're willing to ex Brendan he'll be your best.
Selena alr worse than Brendan and without final evo she doesn't get any chance.
cloud timber
brendan will have a much easier time hitting and going past 1m, selene likely won't but she's usable
restive galleon
I'm broke on pups after exing oak lol
I don't want to lose rowlet
So it's either Selene or a nuker
pallid girder
Selene has WAY worse offensive without final evo and also not gonna benefit from 2 sync +25 in grid.
I think for your need EX SS Erika will prob be better (Only a guess tho. You could try both.)
cloud timber
looks like 90% of decidueye attack
359 compared to 399
before taking into account grid and gear
pallid girder
It's alr a difference of using 20 5*PUs.
brisk shale
sacred badger
hrm. pal serena.
vagrant ivy
inb4 ss gladion ends up being the top unit in ST as well
cloud timber
ss wally got this
sacred badger
she'd be good, if only you have to debuff attack cuz she kinda sucks for it ;x
(i'd probably run her with sc steven though)
pallid girder
inb4 ss gladion ends up being the top unit in ST as well
I don't think he will.SS Gladion's bmove will cap at 1M each in st and that's his main dmg source.
ivory kestrel
hrm. pal serena.
if only Pal Serena had Cakewalk (come on, DeNa, her kit was built for Cakewalk) instead of Overpower
brisk shale
Serena has innate hunter instinct
And overpower is also only for moves
The sync version is devastation
sacred badger
Serena has innate hunter instinct
this is for her moves as well.
sacred badger
yep sadly.
ivory kestrel
i mean, she never runs Overpower anyway, coz it's hard to set it up for her.
sacred badger
i mean, she never runs Overpower anyway, coz it's hard to set it up for her.
i've been able to get her overpower in csmm.... but will be difficult unless you've got someone like nc leaf debuffing i suppose.
its funny, she's got paralyze synergy 5, hunter instinct, ramming speed and overpower.
brisk shale
Just missing furious brain
ivory kestrel
would have been godly set of move multipliers... but Moonblast bp 
sacred badger
dawn actuaally has a good nuke, but setting it up is going to be rough ;x
ivory kestrel
i don't know... she has only one sync multiplier... her tech innate, i rechecked her grid and i thought she had one more multiplier in there
sacred badger
problem is yeah, her grid doesnt have anything to add.
west creek
dawn actuaally has a good nuke, but setting it up is going to be rough ;x
I call cap, Dawn has the same nuke as Vileplume probably
That means easy million
ivory kestrel
me, with no Penny nor SS Wally: hoping SS Gladion can carry once again 
lethal siren
I tried lodge Gloria
She did 600k
ivory kestrel
Bede looks like he has potential on paper... but i'm afraid clunky to use (confuse kit )
sacred badger
huh she can 50% seun in her passives?
cursive linden
I tried lodge Gloria
She did 600k
I wanna know what does the monke have
Oh
She only has Double Down 5 for a multiplier so it makes sense for her to just get 600k
but still
sacred badger
what team did she try with?
lethal siren
She only has Double Down 5 for a multiplier so it makes sense for her to just ge...
I mean I couldn't use last sync
cursive linden
Oh 
lethal siren
what team did she try with?
I did
Nc blue team
vagrant ivy
sure...
umbral sleetBOT
cursive linden
OG ERIKA'S NUKE IS SYNC FLARE 5
ivory kestrel
this is the Erika clear (Vileplume gaming)
ivory kestrel
3/5 and lv140 the disrespect 
rain copper
we shall not lose!
neat raft
Ig this is what they call - winning with faves
ivory kestrel
i'm curious about that run... like, how's it possible. it counters so many things... low Sp attack stat (<300), only one sync multi outside of innate, how Stun Spore spam worked without running out of gauge...
cursive linden
how many syncs
yes.
west creek
You can see how i changed idea very fast
vagrant ivy
base erika would've been doing 200k+ per sync
assuming 5 syncs
what....
do you have god tier gears or something
pallid girder
I just realized it's prob photopshopped: add one digit before a 10k it became 100k.
cloud timber
cheating is not off the table
ideally it's an image edit though
thought of it and didn't think it looked edited but i'm hardly an expert
west creek
thought of it and didn't think it looked edited but i'm hardly an expert
Just look at the post's flair
cloud timber
glad you can confirm
west creek
glad you can confirm
Or is it 
cloud timber
shut up
west creek
rose basalt
how do you get gladion to hit 1 mil anyway with b move
trynna figure it out using him with mina and penny (as suggested earlier here)
cloud timber
idk if anyone's ever done it with that specific team
slender venture
Just go all out on that b move
slender venture
Have the enemy be at -6 spatk
Seun, smun stacks, a couple of sync buffs
And there
Zone, rebuff
cloud timber
i'm unfamiliar to really speak much though on ss gladion and mina and penny
i own none of those
rose basalt
what are my options (i am fully willing to use 2x tech candy for this regardless)
cloud timber
still want what gakon said
rose basalt
i see
sacred badger
what are my options (i am fully willing to use 2x tech candy for this regardless...
5/5 palserena gaming o.o
the one thing i hate about penny is that her tm gives grad healing ;x
cloud timber
also note that the people saying 1m with ss gladion meant total, not on a single b move
thin wren
also note that the people saying 1m with ss gladion meant total, not on a single...
on a single b move should be doable even with mina over wally
Did dena just tell us to touch grass??
normal parcel
inb4 ss gladion ends up being the top unit in ST as well
With damage cut to 1/3 I doubt it, but it will still be able to get 1m, but SS wally definitely will score more
normal parcel
dawn actuaally has a good nuke, but setting it up is going to be rough ;x
Doesn't she have like 0 multipliers besides innate?
teal harness
I wonder if slurpuff can be a good sync nuke here
cursive linden
Katherine has no EX
normal parcel
I wonder if slurpuff can be a good sync nuke here
No ex is a big disadvantage
teal harness
oh damn
vagrant ivy
katherine's main contender is lodge lillie
normal parcel
Sadly I think the best f2p will be mina
vagrant ivy
i'll need to go back for the specifics to give a basic rundown tho
normal parcel
Maybe lodge lillie
vagrant ivy
in favour of katherine
-easy setup
-higher spAtk
-4 sync nodes
-1 innate multiplier, 1 passive multiplier and 1 on grid but i forgot what they were
in favour of lodge lillie
-SEUN
-EX
both have DD3 on grid
rain copper
Kinda doubt about Katherine's easy setup
Girl needs 6 turns total to setup by herself
None of sync rushers helpes with that btw
Lillie also suffers from trap draining timer
normal parcel
But easy target innate is terrible
vagrant ivy
i have to consider those too yep
pallid girder
She can use SC Steven and drop the set up time to 3 turns ig
west creek
Sadly I think the best f2p will be mina
Luckily i exed her when i was crying for a fairy dps
And since my shiny garde is 2/5 i think ill use her
sacred badger
Doesn't she have like 0 multipliers besides innate?
just her innate. sadlife
civic island
So SP3 Sycamore? 
normal parcel
Like you need to use 3 sweet scent and 3 charms to setup Katherine
sacred badger
I can make her reach the million, trust me
she needs people that can make her nuke hard though, stat dropss aand give her actual buffs
normal parcel
Not that her "nuke" is easy to setup, and her buffs aren't even fast
Only good thing is that she can give -6 spdef
vagrant ivy
both lodge lillie and katherine take 6 turns to setup
for full multipliers
ok sorry it looks like both have pecking order and double down 3 in either innate or passive
but katherine has an innate on sync to Lillie’s trap and sync 5
normal parcel
Trap is pretty bad, but no 6ex is bad too
vagrant ivy
even with the nodes, if lillie is EXd it’s 410 BP with both nodes to Katherine’s 340
that may make up for the difference…
normal parcel
At least mina has her humble tech ex that can be setup in 3 moves
vagrant ivy
darn
normal parcel
What x move they will use?
vagrant ivy
no idea
normal parcel
X attack may be a letdown for basically any f2p unit
vagrant ivy
mina has but innate pecking order and 2 sync nodes for multipliers
normal parcel
Maybe mina can take advantage of x attack to setup faster
vagrant ivy
that’s less than both kath and lodge lillie
normal parcel
Yes mina attack is pretty bad
I mean setup speed is a pretty crucial factor however
Even with worse raw stats, you can still score more if you can land more syncs
west creek
So... mina probably wants Snorlax and a sing spammer, but i'm not too sure about how fast you can buff your atk
Then there's Garde, and that's Zapdos and Lapras all over again
pallid girder
Snorlax + Elio max atk easily.
NC Blue + Melony is fine for LLillie or Katherine but they need 6 turns setup with those teammates.
misty forge
Summarnie has an easy 1mil too
hollow pond
Why colress is considered the best sync nuker when he is not that high in the sync dmg ranking?
slender venture
Being a best pair for damage challenge is not as simple as just having the highest potential sync nuke
You have to factor in the team circumstances
You can't always combine good setup time with zone, rebuff and an animation skipper
cursive linden
You can't always combine good setup time with zone, rebuff and an animation skip...
Maybe in the future we will have that in one arc suit unit, but for now, no
hollow pond
Yeah I know the sync nuke is not the only factor, but Colress does not seem to that much either no?
You need a proper team to buff him and he does not do any dmg (normal moves).
I know time is key for this challenge but still hard to understand 😅
slender venture
You don't use normal moves
sacred badger
Yeah I know the sync nuke is not the only factor, but Colress does not seem to t...
please check the pins for thiss channel.
vernal condor
Why colress is considered the best sync nuker when he is not that high in the sy...
because this list
- is outdated af
- uses very specific teams
- has no value for DC
hollow pond
please check the pins for thiss channel.
True, thanks!
civic island
Also it's damn impossible that Colress is dealing just 60% of kGrims dmg unless not counting a proper setup or missing a multiplier node
Sadly doc is no longer updated so mistakes can't be fixed
Like gordie w/o kekwok
vagrant ivy
You don't use normal moves
poppy:
you don't use normal moves mainly since they have low BP and take longer compared to sync moves
but there are a few exceptions
vernal condor
There's like 3 exceptions lmao
vagrant ivy
very few indeed
pallid girder
The best steel st team in the end is Poopy spam + PMarinie sync, right?
normal parcel
In a general viability lack of dps is a main hinderance, however in DC you generally don't DPS (there are few exceptions, like NC Nate, NC Marnie, SS Lusamine, poppy and Nolan if you are desperate for single target bug damage)
normal parcel
Ss gladion wouldn't say is DPS, since is 2 times at most
However b move is his main source of damage
I think in single target fighting you can DPS with Bianca, since her move is pretty fast and can flinch
pallid girder
Back in st ground there's also ppl dps with SS Gio and SC Adaman to get 1M.
normal parcel
Nolan DPS was also the best bug single target f2p strat
Doesn't net you 1m or even close, but bug single target f2p roster is basically non existent
pallid girder
But if we only talk about dps focused top 1 score, prob only SSLusa, NC Silver and SS Glad can count.
Even then the meta of psychic and rock 3v3 might change when they come back since Lear gets striker exr and USelene gets released.
vagrant ivy
Nolan DPS was also the best bug single target f2p strat
wouldn't guzma have gotten more
i think i did 450k ish with guzma?
on bug ST
pallid girder
wouldn't guzma have gotten more
It's Noland dps + Guzma sync bc Noland can't sync.
normal parcel
i think i did 450k ish with guzma?
Best team had both
Don't know how much it scored but definitely more than 500k
misty forge
650k iirc
vapid kernel
Mina will score less than Guzma
Actually Katherine might be even better
But hard to setup
misty forge
Katherine+ NC blue + sing spammer can extremely likely do good enough imo
You'll have to charm twice and sweet scent 3 times but I've seen worsr
vagrant ivy
people are saying that mina, katheriene and lodge lillie are all valid candidates for top F2P DD in ST fairy damage challenge
and i'd agree
we'll really have to see it when the day comes but i predict it will be quite close for all
misty forge
Idk, Katherine nuke felt definitely quite higher but all 3 of them are exless for me
normal parcel
people are saying that mina, katheriene and lodge lillie are all valid candidate...
I mean the bar is extremely low
Not as low as bug, but still...
I think still worse than ghost (and ghost f2p couldn't get 1m)
Lodge Lillie should be worse than allister, and Katherine should be worse than Helena
civic island
Both ghost units had status that allows a sing spammer and eVictor ghost zone
Fairy f2p is just so bad
cloud timber
3/5 morgan havers can do something to help aaron set up with team full bracing infliction
tina and 3/5 morgan seem essential for lowering attack and having support ex, very bleak without them
also providing crit
cloud timber
where did that one peak again
all i remember is dragon being 2.6m
for fairy st tina debuffs faster and provides more defenses to enable aaron so with that and esp if sentry entry 2 aaron there's some hope
for people who don't have gear super stacked for para bonuses
cloud timber
must be that
latent plover
I think Jacq got 3.5 million in 3v1 psychic
cloud timber
lodge wally can have support ex and enable aaron faster but 3 more animations to debuff and look alive 4 could maybe hurt more than it helps
and then you also have to go through gradual healing with aaron's tm for crit
true locust
I think Jacq got 3.5 million in 3v1 psychic
I did lance 4,1m +
St
Jack 3,5m and hop too
fluid anvil
What’s the highest ST dmg challenge we had so far?
Arc Lance like 4,1-4,2M
safe prawn
Right arc Lance
normal parcel
Right arc Lance
Arc lance wasn't even available during dragon DC (unless you count ranked, but that's a different stage)
fluid anvil
normal 3v1 Lance score wil be the same or even higher than it was in ranked
true locust
Same
crude sandal
Is this assuming the enemy has X Speed?
Because no X Speed could be the difference between 1 extra sync
civic island
Shauna had xSpDef all
You lose some dmg on his bmove but if you can land an extra sync is def better
crude sandal
Isn't his B Move better anyways?
civic island
You still use that, just at -4 spdef
crude sandal
Yeah
Anyways, doing some calcs with SS Wally and the jump from his 1st sync to his 2nd sync is massive
1st sync hits around in the 200k range. 2nd sync is practically doubled because of complete multipliers
civic island
He ramp so damn fast
crude sandal
Hmmmm, NC Blue or Chase?
Actually, it's still this question
civic island
Not a spammer?
civic island
Oh nice
true locust
Since gauge come back fastet then 3vs 3
crude sandal
I do have a +10 energy with SS Wally that has Discombobulate 9 and Discourage 2
true locust
You need more confusion
Then low accu:)
Or nc blue confuse and wally low accu
Chase have his own evasion so wally need confuse for sync
crude sandal
But NC Blue has -2 Sp. Def.
But Chase has higher sync ramping
Oh I have Overpowered in my grid with Wally 
civic island
Confusion multipliers 
My wally is 1/5 so I'm fine
~~ I'll just have to deal with Fleur Cannon miss again ~~
crude sandal
But how to buff Wally with Chase and Melony?
Anyways, maybe I'll use this for him:
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/12801/28202?s=5&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=13016403&g=AAECAwQFBwobHh8pKzI0NQ&x=true
normal parcel
You lose some dmg on his bmove but if you can land an extra sync is def better
Isn't his innate smarty pants?
civic island
Oh true, totally forgot he got a tech like multiplier
normal parcel
X speed is definitely less annoying than x spdef
civic island
Yup, -4 spdef is a considerable gap
crude sandal
33% damage loss is quite a margin
normal parcel
Unless you go NC blue melony
vapid kernel
Wow im rank 173 for some reason
civic island
33% damage loss is quite a margin
Less due to multipliers, abt 16% on total dmg
Which mean still performs better if it can fit one extra sync
But idk how many sync Lance got on triple
Amd if devs will rerun the exact same stages on the next cycle
Tbh considering how lazy they were for LG and other stuff I believe no
Maybe they'll just change the order
safe prawn
Btw arc Lance may score even higher in dragon ST bc ranked had the no status cond
civic island
Hold my Champion + para sync gear
civic island
She need ssAcerola, any good representation?
Do we have a fully invested Maxie clear for Ground 3v3? I was interesested to look at one
thick holly
i was wondering why i couldn't consistently do above 1.4m
TURNS OUT MY DUMBASS SHOULDN'T USE KANTO ANALYSIS BEFORE RED DOES HIS FIRST SYNC
rain copper
<@895250065109712917> smh fake fan
I have no excuse 
vernal condor
Smh
lethal siren
For triple fighting
Oh wait
Bea has soften up 1
I didn't know that since today
For F2p
Riley or bea is good options
rain copper
Riley is better
acoustic chasm
Both are better than Chuck 
lethal siren
She can do with colress and classic Red or anyone who works instead of red
Like SC steven?
cloud timber
riley has the stronger sync and has one seun on top of it
and max move
no soften up and no eva chance though
and chuck is a lot behind unfortunately, even before confusion time penalty
lethal siren
Ye
stoic crest
What is the best option? Please ping me
cloud timber
i'd say brendan is significantly better than adaman but both can hit 1m and adaman can potentially hit it with less rng
stoic crest
What should I run with him? Colress and red lax?
lethal siren
U need spd
cloud timber
nc blue and melony
lethal siren
Melony is free
Not sure if u have NC blue
lethal siren
1/5 melony also works
stoic crest
And caked
cloud timber
and no hostile environment will always make things much more annoying
stoic crest
Okay so I'll candy him
stoic crest
Yeah and I have like 350 support coins. I also use him a lot
So I have plenty
What grids? I would prefer to try adaman if he has less rng.
cloud timber
yeah you can try adaman first and switch to brendan if you get capped but the problem is adaman really also wants 20k orbs to get cs2 on grid
lethal siren
Okay so I'll candy him
Ye sure
And 3/5 is best
You are not wasting resources anw
stoic crest
Oh I have have like 980k orbs
So expanding grid shouldn't be an issue. I have too much stuff 😬
lethal siren
Ye
cloud timber
in retrospect brendan needs the premium lucky skills less
stoic crest
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=025500013100&s0=3&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=18090...
Can I function without pinpoint and adrenaline? I lack purple cookies because I don't do gauntlet
I have like 20 of them
copper otter
you could if you get good para luck
stoic crest
Oh that's good
I just don't have time to do gauntlet grinding when I spend 8 doctor appointments a week 😬
stoic crest
What grids?
cloud timber
stoic crest
But still use purple cookies?
cloud timber
don't think it's worth worrying about the rest if you're not super concerned with pushing past 1m
stoic crest
Thanks
So it seems I use discharge to paralysis, sync with blue the just sync with Brendan?
Ignore melody outside of sing
Is that right?
stoic crest
here's a much cheaper version https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=025500013100&...
And why do both grid links look identical?
cloud timber
edited
sync with blue, sync with melony, rest with brendan
and sing with melony mostly
you only need to look for a single para
lethal siren
Who is F2p option for triple poison
lethal siren
Oh
E
Ye
How super syncer is only 1 time
Courtney was doing it in every sync
Or maybe I mistook
cloud timber
she wasn't
sacred badger
this is actually badass though ;o
cloud timber
plumeria will be better than roxie
thin wren
what would ya all consider the top 5 dc support units (doesn't need to be base support only,just be good at supporting) excluding the spammers
lethal siren
Looker?
rain copper
Looker is bad
lethal siren
My oleana is 1/5
Can venom drench spam work with NC blue?
cloud timber
looker doesn't have inertia like the other two, just double down 5 and virulent toxin
lethal siren
Or melony
visual mantle
Looker's damage was surprisingly good when I tried him last. Not sure how good his nuke is though.
thin wren
this is actually badass though ;o
it's nice but I wouldn't consider it a big advantage, especially in st
cloud timber
gets super syncer too at least
thin wren
why did psychic aoe have to be the first dc
......
lethal siren
it's nice but I wouldn't consider it a big advantage, especially in st
I mean it's ok for sure crit
We talking abt triple
thin wren
Yes but I am worried about losing damage tiles because of the energy you waste
even in triple
cloud timber
i was thinking venom drench spam wouldn't work on poisoned opponents but that's not a concern without twofer
and twofer is less necessary than we thought
thin wren
if it's too much of a damage loss like 2 sync tiles or more I wouldn't consider it worth it
lethal siren
Venom drench will do it's work in just two moves
thin wren
Doesn't roxie have the strongest aoe poison nuke?
lethal siren
So I think it doesn't matter much
thin wren
ik oleana will probably be on the comp
rain copper
if it's too much of a damage loss like 2 sync tiles or more I wouldn't consider ...
it does not hurt her at all
lethal siren
Og Roxie I have
lethal siren
1 Rebuff is like a zone just with little less power?
rain copper
-1 rebuff is 30% boost
lethal siren
Oh
thin wren
Emma carries for me
she even has sure crit on sync
same since my ss roxie is still 1/5
visual mantle
Will Geeta be competitive?
rain copper
i think she can break 1mil easily
thin wren
1 mil should be easy
rain copper
even 2mil is achievable methinks
thin wren
she won't be optimal tho
visual mantle
She's probably my best option either way. Have no other limited poison pairs.
thin wren
cuz the best aoe poison nuker already compresses zone with enough duration
visual mantle
SS Roxie?
rain copper
lethal siren
I didn't get ss Roxie last time
cloud timber
Am I going crazy or are both still identical?
i'll just put screenshot lol
stoic crest
Thank you!
pallid girder
You don't need para proc for this team to get 1M. In my experience 2 sync from support + 4 sync from Brendan is guaranteed 1M.
With Melony you should consistently get 4 sync w/o para proc.
scenic grotto
i was wondering why i couldn't consistently do above 1.4m
Venasaur, Lapras, Pikachu
Red out here with a full team of three for Damage Challenge /j
jaunty stratus
In the fairy dc, would i reach 1 m if i just do wally nuke over and over?
He's 1/5 exr
cloud timber
i'd lean towards no but you'd have to see for yourself to be sure
ideally you'd have nc blue 3/5 and melony both ex
ashen cave
Please help me with Red's grid
thin wren
@ashen cave do you have chase or nc blue
normal parcel
i'd say brendan is significantly better than adaman but both can hit 1m and adam...
Wouldn't say is significantly, better, it definitely peaks much higher, butbibfeelnthatvwithbthe right team, Andaman is super consistent, while Brendan fluctuates a lot, if you don't want to deal with rng i guess adaman can score around 1.4m effortlessly, if you want to score more brendan can do it, but you will need to deal with lots of rng
Or at least with adamann I could easily get 1.4m ww3 ls 3/5, with 5/5 brendan (cs2 without the energy expansion) I struggle to get 1 m if I don't get good rng
sacred badger
Please help me with Red's grid
perhaps this?
cloud timber
i had pretty good luck with brendan tbf
normal parcel
Ok maybe with +25 sync BP and SP3 Will score more, but still I can't sync 5 times without getting the full para (or 4 times with grassy terrain)
With adamant the score is super consistent, and every run for me is 1.4 - 1.45m
cloud timber
also how much is ss acerola helping bc i don't have her
normal parcel
For adaman using acerola + wise entry 2 Aron is super consistent
Like no RNG involved at all (I reset for adaman tm MPR at the very start, but I don't even know if it is necessary)
thin wren
Wouldn't say is significantly, better, it definitely peaks much higher, butbibfe...
andaman
thin wren
With adamant the score is super consistent, and every run for me is 1.4 - 1.45m
adamant
what do you have against adaman's name
normal parcel
Auto correct always corrects Andaman
normal parcel
If I don't correct the auto correct it always writes adamant
I think with better gears I could definitely break 1.45m and 5/5 adamant will definitely break 1.5m maybe 1.6m
5/5 gets extra BP and can afford cs2 too
3/5 doesn't have enough energy to pick cs2
(you could pick at +6 it but it will cost you 25sync BP and +10 attack, so isn't worth it)
cloud timber
i got cs2 with +2 and thought skipping the bottom sync node was fine
normal parcel
I calculated it and the sync BP ant the extra 10 attack at +2 is better, than the Cs2 at +6
cloud timber
yea i didn't actually bother to check until now
normal parcel
And at just +2 you lose enfeeble too
You need +6 at least to get cs2 (but isn't worth it)
Or you can get it at +2 with enfeeble?
normal parcel
Ok I guess enfeeble isn't necessary for NC blue teams
Unless you can b move only once
cloud timber
but this is what i'm looking at and i didn't reach -6
was stuck at -5 for some reason
normal parcel
but this is what i'm looking at and i didn't reach -6
Yes this is my grid, but it doesn't have cs2
normal parcel
was stuck at -5 for some reason
You need to use b move in sun
Otherwise it debuffs only -1
normal parcel
Personally I'm using acerola comp, but I can only b move once
I mean grassy terrain makes for it, and I can still make use of the second b move as a finisher
I tried NC blue comps, but I wasn't performing well
I guess my phone can't handle melony spam that well
How much can NC blue comp score?
cloud timber
1.37m
i only bothered to get one run, didn't check more for damage rolls or anything
normal parcel
RNG involved?
cloud timber
none
normal parcel
I got between 1.4m and 1.45m with acerola, so I feel that they are pretty close
cloud timber
yea it is
normal parcel
Only annoying thing is that Aron needs wise entry 2
And silver deluxe skills are annoying to roll
cloud timber
turned out to be exactly the same but i was able to fit in one more leaf blade, might end up that old grid was better
since the extra cs2 does buff the two b moves and the one or two leaf blades
initial recording was this with cs2 on grid https://youtu.be/rj1ZbW7W_Zc?si=_keug4yF58xvOPfi
run j just did also hit 1.37m at the same spot
i was def less excited with adaman since i got that run and felt like there was little more to do until brendan strats were developed more
and i didn't mind the variance, was still getting pretty consistently higher anyway
normal parcel
initial recording was this with cs2 on grid https://youtu.be/rj1ZbW7W_Zc?si=_keu...
You still needed an aqua tail miss
With acerola comp isn't needed at all
And I think using the b moves early on is better so you get -6 def, since the bulk of the damage are the syncs
true locust
Quick question 😉 if i remember corect his b move have aoe penalty? And sync not
rain copper
If the move didn't get aoe penalty, the move descreption would specify it
umbral sleetBOT
Sygna Suit Red (Thunderbolt) & Pikachu
rain copper
For example
true locust
Ok:)
And sync don’t have aoe penalty?
So its better focus gears for his sync then so he deal more damage ?
merry nymph
Sync doesn't have AoE penalty yes
true locust
Ok thanks:)
misty forge
So its better focus gears for his sync then so he deal more damage ?
His buddy does basically same if not more damage than his sync
Because of possible enhancements through other 2 units
In the end it depends on what enablers you have
civic island
The majority of his dmg comes from sync, a sync focused gear will perform better
copper otter
So.... fairy ST. I wonder if Summer Marnie is viable with Arc Steven now.
pallid girder
Afaik she did 1M in 3v3 before ArcSteven is a thing.
copper otter
Hmm
devout pelican
Hurr, so OG Brendan managed to beat Adaman?
misty forge
Afaik she did 1M in 3v3 before ArcSteven is a thing.
Yeah, I did 1.2 with her 3v3
icy pendant
wow mix red is certainly one of the buttons of all time this dc, didn't even try and pulled 1.8m on my first attempt
vapid kernel
Same
icy pendant
tbh I don't think I care enough to try harder so I'm going to just leave it there
true locust
Mix red mvp
normal parcel
Hurr, so OG Brendan managed to beat Adaman?
As top score yes, but If you don't want to invest a lot of time gambling for RNG I think adaman is much more reliable (even if it peaks lower)
If you care to squeeze the most and Don't care much about having to deal with RNG, Brendan is the better option, if you just want a decent score without wasting much time fishing for RNG adaman is the better option
swift pulsar
Must be the gears again
copper otter
that might be a lack of crit/low rolls
normal parcel
Must be the gears again
Brendan has high RNG, I think you will need to sync with him 4 times to score good, but I think an aqua tail miss is needed
Adaman with that team is super reliable and can easily sync 4 times (just use b move once at start and use the second as a finisher)
Not sure if you can sync 4 times with adaman with 2 b move uses if you get an aqua tail miss (and skip sunny day)
But I don't even think is worth it
Final b move hits like a 5th sync
pallid girder
Well. Actually it feels like it's SS Acerola has some issue in dc.
The typical NC Blue + Melony doesn't have this issue.
normal parcel
I mean with adaman I felt SS acerola comp much more reliable
NC blue + melony as sing accuracy and paralysis variance
With acerola you can either do it or you can't, at most you can hope for aqua tail miss, but isn't really needed
The only thing, is that you need wise entry 2 on Aaron
delicate junco
im so confused
i saw a video of someone using f2p sets to get over 1 mil
yet with 6* EX Redlax, i cant get nearly enough syncs in to get half their level
what am i doing wrong?
jagged radish
is there a way to get huge numbers with 5/5 mix red? o.o i did like 1.3m but not sure if i can get much higher? using NC Blue for aoe para reset and melony,
delicate junco
does You and Me eat up too much time?
jagged radish
thought he was gonna shine more
delicate junco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y129zoVNids vid in question
copper otter
does You and Me eat up too much time?
You and Me is actually slower despite the TM giving you Sync CD. you can fit 3 sing fails instead.
you should only use You and Me for the SEUP, not for sync rushing specifically
delicate junco
Current team is 6* redlax, bp barry, and brendan
Currently at 411k as my best
Theyre able to get their fiest true syn around 1:30, while mine is close to thr 120 or 110s...
true locust
Since bp barry is slower then sing spam
If you use lax can use melony or elio para from lax body slam
delicate junco
speed shouldnt matter because there isnt any gauge issues
unless speed also affect animation times
pallid girder
Where is the speed buff though? Brendan needs +6 speed on himself to deal dmg.
copper otter
This damage challenge made me realize that SC Steven can raise speed.
such a crazy unit
olive panther
I swear sometimes when the opponents attack it counts towards my own damage. Has anyone else experienced this?
civic island
I swear sometimes when the opponents attack it counts towards my own damage. Has...
Yes, it's just a visual bug
copper otter
I swear sometimes when the opponents attack it counts towards my own damage. Has...
if you do too much damage, the counter can't keep up and has to use the Opponent's or the next hit of damage to refresh the damage counter
civic island
#916852044692856834 message
olive panther
ah, that's really strange. Glad I'm not cheating I guess
fluid anvil
1 day left, Mix Red still hasnt cracked 2,9M..
grim, need that Adaman Strike EXR or a Grass Arc
slate magnet
Grassy Terrain is bad in dc I think, but the paralyzed is great lol
feral hamlet
Just starting on this. Whose the best? I have Mix Red and Adaman
brisk shale
Mix red
icy pendant
pretty sure if you have exr mix red and the sleep stall team and understand how to play dc it is physically impossible to mess it up enough to not get 1m
feral hamlet
Knowing me, but let's see...
icy pendant
also what color skill feathers do I want to be exchanging for now that I've finished my BR shop for the month
fluid tendon
I think green is the way to go
feral hamlet
I guess you need 5/5? I dunno
feral hamlet
Do I have a way to reach 1M then or is this it?
icy pendant
what other 3/5 options do you have?
3/5 is often a requirement to do anything because sync rushing is the meta and often the sync multipliers are locked to 3/5
feral hamlet
Used to be even 1/5 was good enough before this mode...
icy pendant
oh you have brendan do the brendan clear
feral hamlet
Oh, I'm not getting 1M with that, am I?
icy pendant
batman has a 2m clear with ex brendan
you have inertia access so you should be able to get 1m assuming decent crit chances
feral hamlet
Why do I want Melony over Elio?
cloud timber
much faster if you can provide the gauge
propelling move takes time
typically nc blue or chase or sonia are doing it
para plus gauge
thin wren
probably chase good dodge rng
fallen trail
nice even number @true locust
sacred badger
on the dot too lolol
sharp roost
Whats the next DC?
visual mantle
ST Fairy I think
sharp roost
Sooo wally nuke?
feral hamlet
batman has a 2m clear with ex brendan
I don't know how he got literally more than double, but it's par for the course
pallid girder
Did you use cs2? (Lots of ppl forget to change Dauntless)
Did you use the same grid with all 4 sync tiles?
feral hamlet
Yes and yes
I eventually broke 1M with the same comp, but man. Always expect to get 30-40% of a reported score
ivory kestrel
Did someone do the calcs on Pal-Serena? Can she do 1M?
Also, if no SS wally or Penny, can she do it with NC Blue and Melony?
civic island
NcBlue and Melony sure
civic island
Yup enemy being slow helps, will be a stretch but she can do it w SP3 n Gears eventually
true locust
nice even number <@693754025115648021>
Haha i now first time got it. Realy strange🤣
normal parcel
yet with 6* EX Redlax, i cant get nearly enough syncs in to get half their level
Who gives speed?
Without inertia is normal that you score half as much
Plus red tm is quite slow
delicate junco
yeah i changed my team abit and got 557k
think thats all i can do with exing more supports
cloud timber
i think he's capable w/ nc blue + melony
unborn vault
Ikr?
cloud timber
yea he is worse than olympia
just barely ahead in damage after applying confusion and max debuff and getting seun
but takes more time and rng
and no evasion
cloud timber
i never bothered using olympia bc i got easy 1m with lear
old valve
Got a lucky triple para and ended up with this
My method of approach might be a little off at the start or something? Seems very good for what I was doing nonetheless though
vernal condor
This exact team can get double that, you might be doing something wrong
old valve
I did a lot of what was suggested of me the other day here at the very least
No troublemaker, no vigilance, stuff like that
Maybe my opening set of moves should be in a different order?
I was doing uhhh
Blue TM | Sing | X Speed All+ | Sing | X Speed All+ | Discharge | Sing spam until further notice
The discharge should probably be sooner in retrospect, noticing that much right away
warped gulch
old valve
Well! At least it was easy to figure out!
I was wondering why the syncs were so low damage for, y'know, ones with maxed offenses and four sync buffs
That certainly explains it!
Okay so
Discharge, Brendan TM, Sing, Speed, Sing, Speed, Sing, Blue TM, Sing until further notice? That should work, right?
warped gulch
You can grid Melony’s Team Sharp Entry 1
long silo
Another victim of Dauntless LC
old valve
Oh I suppose not having to apply the smun would be faster yeah
old valve
Another victim of Dauntless LC
I swear I was running Crit Strike 2 on him at the very least though
I thought of that much
...Even if I didn't read the sign on the door I was constantly opening
old valve
Yea I didn't realize it was physical lollllll
long silo
Tbh at one point I thought his sync is Special specifically because of Dauntless
old valve
I ain't ever used this guy seriously before!!!
I shoulda just made a mental note at some point that he's "like Silver basically" that would've helped
Anyways back to the grindddddddd
Decided to run off of a double para just so I could feel the difference in damage to start
Gaming
Now to keep fishing lol
cloud timber
should run with single para really to get out as many runs as you can to fish for crits
doesn't help as much to get double or triple para
just need to enable sing spam
cloud timber
the extra tickets can matter even if the ratio looks bad
depends on how much easy improvement you're leaving on the table
more importantly big number good
misty forge
the extra tickets can matter even if the ratio looks bad
It matters only if you have potential to 2+mil most stages
Getting 500k score more than 1mil per stage means you get 3/4 more units in a year than who just stops at the average (32 with 1mil score Vs 36 with 1.5 mil)
2 mil every stage nets you only 6 dupes more than 1 mil
In a year
If you think it's worth resetting so much for a couple more dupes, all the power to you, but with DC ranked rewards doing just 1mil will net people more than 40-42 DC units per year
I personally think it's more than enough
fluid anvil
what is the best Adaman team again ?
was thinking Adaman - SS Acerola - Colress
dont wanna use Redlax
normal parcel
This exact team can get double that, you might be doing something wrong
That team I think got 2m, but I think was RNG heavy and probably good skill gears
normal parcel
what is the best Adaman team again ?
was thinking Adaman - SS Acerola - Colress
...
I used asaman , acerola, Aaron and got 1.45m
Colress lacks support ex and infliction freebie is slow
vernal condor
That team I think got 2m, but I think was RNG heavy and probably good skill gear...
and more energy
fluid anvil
I used asaman , acerola, Aaron and got 1.45m
that seems ok, but my Sinnoh gears have ~37% sync damage from enemy status/para .. I cant not have para =/
if only Barry wasnt bad with SS Acerola
misty forge
that seems ok, but my Sinnoh gears have ~37% sync damage from enemy status/para ...
Wtf cracked
scenic grotto
Fairy weak tomorrow
civic island
that seems ok, but my Sinnoh gears have ~37% sync damage from enemy status/para ...
Do you have volo?
Setup is fast sun should last enough w Drought alert
Unless you were going for energy overcap CS2
fluid anvil
Do you have volo?
what does Volo do?
civic island
Sinnoh defensive circle + 30% on sync when circle is up teamwide
If Barry allows you to spam faster and get one extra sync, it should be better
Plus you got para gears
fluid anvil
Barry is exact same speed as Colress
jaunty stratus
Do yo guys think my palrena would break 1m?
My other fairy dds are ss gladion and ss wally both 1/5
I have bede but idt confusion is good in dc
civic island
Barry is exact same speed as Colress
Charging infliction is always faster
Not by a lot but still noticeable
Should be a good alternative if you don't have ssAcerola or Red
~~ or just bring leafeon ~~
true locust
Barry is fastes outside off sing spamers
vapid kernel
I just wanna find some uses for the guy, the kit is interesting
Legendary Gauntlet
Also for the record that kit is NOT interesting
normal parcel
if only Barry wasnt bad with SS Acerola
Then you should use NC blue melony if you have them, acerola definitely wants wise entry 2 Aaron
cursive saddle
what's the next dc?
unborn vault
Legendary Gauntlet
Literally everyone is usable in there
vapid kernel
Literally everyone is usable in there
Go ask a few more ppl wht they would do, not what they would think
unborn vault
Fair
normal parcel
Literally everyone is usable in there
Including eggmons
cloud timber
I personally think it's more than enough
i def currently have many more tickets than i'm using by this point but it's not too unlikely to be only a few tickets off getting an extra unit
shrewd fractal
got 990k, leaving it with that
cloud timber
most important thing to me is having more reason to not force the 1m when you don't have strong units
like that
shrewd fractal
Very happy i could get this with brendan bc my grass isnt that amazing
cloud timber
should hardly be forcing or grinding past 1m for like an extended period but there are def times where there's still plenty of easy improvement left
i see no reason to actively discourage that
just no need to treat it the same as pushing to 1m
just don't do what you don't like really
but that can change a lot from person to person
lethal siren
Single fairy tmr
old valve
Oh fairy is next?
I guess that means I'd probably want to go with Lisia or smthn then right? Supereffective Up Next is one hell of a drug sooo
pallid girder
1/5 Lisia? I don't think so.
fallen trail
katherine be hittin
no EX though
probably not 1 mil
mayb i should candy volo finally
just pray you roll hyper beam or giga impact as the last move 
dire spade
With CS2 and low to mid skill gear set
cloud timber
energy expansion?
dire spade
energy expansion?
Yes, +6 on Brendan. In fact, used the Batmanbnb strategy described in the spreadsheet
cloud timber
i see
icy pendant
just pray you roll hyper beam or giga impact as the last move <:VoloStonks:12577...
this would be a really funny time to roll fissure wouldn’t it
vernal condor
pal serena gaming
vapid kernel
pal serena gaming
Waiting for your 1M vid
vernal condor
Most certainly not
vapid kernel
Just photoshop
vernal condor
lol
cloud timber
wait
vernal condor
that is very sad
cloud timber
gave akr0's setup a try and got that one of my first attempts
did not think the gauge worked out but it does
with ft1 melony
vernal condor
ew
fluid anvil
meh
cloud timber
ft1 melony is still definitely better than ppe2 elio here
checked
4 moves slower when the timer hit 0
vernal condor
Well yeah it procs way less
cloud timber
2 para procs and one aqua tail miss but i ran out of gauge at the end for the last two sings
not sure if ft2 could be better
maybe not
rotund sierra
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sacred badger
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brendan can work
hrm
iirc it needed melony andd nc blue
rotund sierra
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sacred badger
setting up with inertia for brendan might be itchy without a speed buffer.
rotund sierra
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cloud timber
after nc blue and chase she should be next best
rotund sierra
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cloud timber
somehow nothing else in the game is giving speed and para that i can find besides bp raikou who spends even more time on reactive passives
fluid tendon
Support Tauros
cloud timber
1 or 2 passives would be optimal too
fluid tendon
Though Tauros itself having pretty low speed isn't great
cloud timber
yea nc blue has one of the highest speed stats in the game and it's still possible to run out of gauge at +6
sonia's mga matters along with more consistent para
well highest for a support
and then there's lacking support ex
rotund sierra
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fluid tendon
Yes
cloud timber
it also takes significantly longer than most passives
has a full-on delay
so it's a lot worse than running nothing
thin wren
could wally get into the 3 mils
fluid anvil
nah
rotund sierra
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wooden tree
What’s the best unit to 3/5 first?
sacred badger
i grabbed dc gladion to 3/5 ;o
lethal siren
Ig ss Wally can 2m or something?
rain copper
I believe he can reach 3m
lethal siren
Oh
lethal siren
already got 1.76m with ss wally in multi
Wht was ur grid
Is this good
Should I remove discourage
cloud timber
it was almost that but you don't need mind boggler so i took disarming voice sde 5
only using wally's b move once
and no other moves until last sync
bleak summit
Barry or melody for this challenge?
rain copper
Melony + NC Blue is the best rush comp
icy pendant
Melony does want every ounce of speed you can give her though, just something to keep in mind
sacred badger
hmm
long silo
Wow Skinny did this
thick stump
cant spell greta without great
sacred badger
5/5 enjoyer
rain copper
lethal siren
Melony does want every ounce of speed you can give her though, just something to...
Nc blue X speed all
Wally team speedy entry 2
Enough
icy pendant
Nc blue X speed all
Wally team speedy entry 2
Enough
yes but consider for a second that not everyone has NC Blue
sly drum
i dont really know what im doing lmao
icy pendant
I’d start by reading up on the pins, DC requires you to pretty fundamentally reevaluate your game mechanics knowledge to score high so conventional teams usually do not score well
cloud timber
generally you want to rush as many syncs as possible and the easiest way to do that is with colress or bp barry (both 3/5)
but bp barry won't work under grassy terrain (stun spore is grass and will heal with every use which wastes time)
spam thunder wave with infliction freebie to run down the sync cd
you'll see videos in the clear sheet, first link in the pins
fossil igloo
No Super Powered 3 and no cookies to get it, but I think this is still good.
lethal siren
yes but consider for a second that not everyone has NC Blue
Oh I didn't read Barry there
limber kettle
No Super Powered 3 and no cookies to get it, but I think this is still good.
What were your grids here,
fossil igloo
That's more like it!
fossil igloo
What were your grids here,
Here's the grids for Red and Blue. Rosa just used Sing. It was just more effective to get Red going on dealing damage earlier than to Sync with Rosa AND Blue.
crude sandal
Surprised no one has posted a clear here yet
paper anchor
always miss the discussion, who is the main contender for single fairy dps
crude sandal
paper anchor
Nice, have him 3/5 and ex roled
crude sandal
Luckily mine is 5/5 from almost 2 years ago
nova remnant
Haven't done the new reset yet but my lear pull went great so I now have fast rat
hollow whale
cloud timber
2m is gonna be rough on the rng
if opponent wally buffed anything other than speed it'd be fine
have 1.4m but it's possible to get out another sync
forest forge
dry whale
This was quick and dirty, will try actual attempts when I get up in the morning. It's looking like I may have to candy Wally
cloud timber
yea this one was first shot with 3/5 wally
west creek
It seems that i am too strong for this world
forest forge
nova remnant
Right so what's the ideal sync order here?
Supports -> Wally?
Also do y'all max his devastation multiplier?
forest forge
Yes
To all those
I posted video of Strat just above with all gear/lucky skills/ grids etc
nova remnant
I assume discharge twice then his b move later?
forest forge
Only need to discharge for para actually
sly gorge
best i could do tbqh
forest forge
Wally applies all buffs or de buffs needed by himself
vernal condor
Trust the process
sacred badger
tbh.... pal serena can paralyze
slender venture
Soo close to getting in a 5th Wally sync
warped gulch
All of them is very bad to use
spark olive
ugh i don't wanna use 2 tech candies to get the leon medal, do you think it can be done with nemona maybe?
fluid tendon
I feel like lillie's gotta be the best one there
warped gulch
L Lillie cant buff crit herself, need Atk debuff and trap
Mina has really low Atk
Katherine doesn’t have EX
rain copper
Trust the process
Ummm where is your sync rusher 
jolly violet
The best I can do is copy Triple DC and move on
warped gulch
I tried L Lillie, but bc she need both Crit Buff and Atk debuff
That make she really anoying to set up
fluid tendon
Yeah that really limits her partners huh
warped gulch
Like she cant go with Barry + Melony
Bc no Atk debuff
Unless you want to use Gleam 6 times
fluid tendon
Might have to tbh
fluid tendon
Maybe elio's the play
warped gulch
No crit
fluid tendon
Well...
warped gulch
Or crit is anoying to set up with him
sacred badger
ugh
cloud timber
lodge lillie needs tina or 3/5 morgan for support ex + attack debuffs
lodge wally also works but is slower
fluid tendon
Hm
warped gulch
Tina is a pf so i dont use her
spark olive
The best I can do is copy Triple DC and move on
oh nice
cloud timber
yeah it's very not good for accessible options
faint quiver
650k for 1/5 SS Wally.
fluid tendon
Maybe something like Tina, Lillie, and Elio can work, using burn to set up sleep spam (bleh)
vernal condor
ah 2nd sync didnt crit
fluid tendon
Or I guess nc Blue and Lillie can try handling the attack debuffing
sacred badger
Ugh
royal jolt
Better
spark olive
The best I can do is copy Triple DC and move on
can you send talents and grids?
cursive linden
Has anyone used the dreaded unit?
cosmic wing
Me waiting for a 3/5 Marnie clear so I can copy the team because I am dumb
sacred badger
haaah. 2 non crits
cloud timber
yeah there was an exactly 1 frame window to input
better mashing would have given me more leeway
long silo
I don't think I will optimize further. Lol
vernal condor
Me waiting for a 3/5 Marnie clear so I can copy the team because I am dumb<:Mina...
She isn't getting much
vernal condor
true
fluid tendon
Well
olive wraith
CS2
sacred badger
lets... go...
vernal condor
lol
cloud timber
no confusion
sacred badger
could definitely hit 500k though ;-;
crude sandal
Why Colress?