Damage Challenge

[pallid girder]

They're not talking about Malva do dmg herself I believe.

It's using as cakewalk setter for a cheap substitution bc for now only SC Steven is used everywhere.

[cloud timber]

yea i don't have sc steven and idk if i'll ever get him

[crude sandal]

Malva will certainly be the best option for F2P units in fire 3v1

Like a mini SS May

[brisk shale]

3/5 ss diantha is also a good single target cakewalk enabler

-6 in *1 rock tomb

[crude sandal]

Isn't it 1 Rock Tomb assuming you grid Trip Wire 1 + Trip Twice?

[tribal flax]

What if the game is (After enemy use 10 move or after we use 2 sync move), then only it start countdown from 2 min

Then it actually viable for more variety of support or future kind unit, that need setup to allow other "weaker" unit to shine

For example Arc Steven to lower enemy defense using B Move take 6 turn Orz (I rather we got 10 turn of round before time start ticking then)

[jolly violet]

Its not like she misses other multiply with it. Soften Up is optional

[vapid kernel]

Idk like a Hilbert or NC Blue setup probably

[normal parcel]

Probably the classic NC blue melony will work

Wondering if supreme entry would be good for Brendan, you will get seun for the first 2 syncs

Acerola can technically get Brendan to +6 speed with tm MPR in sun

[sacred badger]

oh

oooops wrong channel

[cloud timber]

bad to have your damage dealer's 3rd 4th or potentially even 5th sync completely unboosted

2 seuns on the first 2 aren't enough

[normal parcel]

Adaman on paper will nuke harder than Brendan even vs3, but it can sync the same amount of times?

Andaman needs to use 2 b moves

[cloud timber]

w/ nc blue melony the rest is identical, just adaman's 2 b moves

[normal parcel]

Yes but will them cost you a sync?

[cloud timber]

not answerable currently

but i don't think brendan is exactly winning if he gets to fire off one more sync

adaman could just do the same thing without b moves and still outperform

[normal parcel]

Will outperform without extra def debuffs and rebuffs?

I highly doubt

Plus with melony + NC blue 1st sync won't even have solar flare 5

Unless you just sync with NC blue

[dusty solar]

man, i didn’t realize just how much arc pairs are going to dominate DC

tragic

[pallid girder]

Maybe it's SS Morty + Aaron play again!

[normal parcel]

The Ultimate p2w, they really want you to force spending those 45.5k gems

[normal parcel]

At this point SS acerola + aron

[dusty solar]

they have failed because i already have the top 20 super sparring no. 1 title and i no longer care about candying/rolling for prestige

unfortunate bc i like how wordy and stupid this HSE title is but i’m not going to rank high without arc lance

[cloud timber]

i think i was thinking about grass single, way less certain on triple

[pallid girder]

Just don't persuit top 100 or sth in rank and you can ignore all those "p2w" banners.

[cloud timber]

they're barely even good outside their own types, just lance is good for setting debuffs for ssr cynthia really

if you laser focus on ranked stuff it's always going to be p2w

why would it ever not be

[dusty solar]

i’ve been able to get every unit outside of variety banners without spending more than anni deals + monthly packs

no longer it seems

minus uhhhh ultra selene and iono

[pallid girder]

Dena: you spent less than what we wanted.

[jolly violet]

Getting the most tickets and getting all DC pairs to 5/5 quick is a good goal

[dusty solar]

[cloud timber]

i don't spend at all so i just expect most stuff to be out of reach always lol

[normal parcel]

I calculated that adaman 3/5 sync with same team is roughly 10% stronger than 5/5 brendan one (but guaranteed crit)

[cloud timber]

still got top 3 for first single dragon dc

[normal parcel]

Now if adaman loses a sync it will definitely lose to Brendan

If adaman can sync the same it wins, but I doubt it will sync the same while having to use 2 b moves

[pallid girder]

It'll be amazing if it's neither mix Red nor Adaman but Brendan win in 3v3 but I really don't think it'll be the case lol.

[normal parcel]

Maybe if it uses 1 b move and one as a finisher

[jolly violet]

I got top 3 in Single Rock, just because I fail MF banner and then decied to dump all my Tech Candies to 5/5 SS Diantha.

[cloud timber]

yea occasionally top spots drift within range like that

[dusty solar]

I don’t really try to push single DCs

[jolly violet]

It was long before DC is a thing

[dusty solar]

do you mean super sparring

[jolly violet]

There is no single Rock super sparring stage tho

[normal parcel]

Ok with just 1 b move his sync will be slightly weaker than Brendan, but the finisher will be much stronger and sure crit definitely helps

Maybe with paralysis RNG you can sync the same as Brendan by using 2 b moves and you just trade crit RNG with paralysis RNG

[dusty solar]

the single stages are called Damage Challenge and the three consecutive battles are called Super Sparring

[fossil igloo]

Feels good! I might be able to improve this a bit more, though.

[normal parcel]

Corless can definitely reach 2m with Lillie but maybe depends on gears

But you need Rolex lillie

[dusty solar]

do you think SC Rosa is going to be the best tech nuke or will it be Adaman

for 1v3

[normal parcel]

Double rebuff is too good to pass I think

[dusty solar]

RIP

[normal parcel]

Plus doesn't Rosa require tons of debuffs?

[jolly violet]

F2P adamant is easy to setup tho

Easier than SC Rosa

[normal parcel]

There's no f2p adaman

Or you mean with f2p supports?

[devout pelican]

"F2p" adaman

[jolly violet]

Its SS Erika

[normal parcel]

Still 100% f2p compared to mix red

[jolly violet]

Same mons works in the same WTZ conditions

[normal parcel]

SS Erika doesn't have the rebuff, the debuffs, infinite sun, and her attack stat is quite low

[jolly violet]

I call her f2p adaman

[devout pelican]

Then someone pull him off daily scout

[normal parcel]

I mean is easier to buy a lottery ticket, win the lottery and pity him with the money I won

I guess mix red is 0.0000000001% f2p

[cloud timber]

looks like sc rosa needs 3 sweet scents and 3 seed flares to max her multipliers

doesn't stand a chance against adaman but she's salvageable ig lol (if you have nc blue)

[pallid girder]

And there's SC Sonia that no one cares

[normal parcel]

Yes probably she will be the best for 3v3 but has an akward interaction with melony comps

She needs full gauge so you need something like corless/BP Barry

[devout pelican]

SC Sonia definitely feels bad as a limited. Not Summer Lyra tier, but still

[normal parcel]

I mean summer Lyra feels like a 3★/4★ general pool unit (and more on the wulfric/Lorelei side)

Like her sync puts enemies to sleep but her sync multiplier wants them already asleep

Her tm heals if you are asleep, but doesn't have something like rest

Doesn't even have sing to put enemies to sleep for the sync

[pallid girder]

They meme with the iconic "Jigglypuff sing will put ppl to sleep" anime moment but didn't try to make it cohesive with the kit

[normal parcel]

Her kit is just a mess of random stuffs that make no sense

If clock out put enemies asleep before the sync damage, her kit would have made partially sense

And what's the sense of her tm, even if the stage uses AOE sleep, you want something to prevent it not just to cure lyra

Her tm doesn't even wake up the whole team

[cloud timber]

def more concerned with making things jigglypuff-related than playable and usable

[civic island]

Early seasonals suffered from random stuff, they were made to be funny/collectable stuff
Lowkey the best for me, I love seasonal alts

[cloud timber]

ss morty + aaron does seem to be faster than nc blue + melony, difference of 3 seconds across 6 syncs from quick testing

different accuracy rolls and more careful button presses could make things different

i'm leaning towards using nc blue melony but if getting the last sync is too difficult could always switch

lacking gear bonus without para

[pallid girder]

Still hope they can get grid/exr update.

[rare apex]

summer lyra sprint exr

[normal parcel]

I don't think there's an exr that can save her, maybe field would make her barely usable

[vagrant ivy]

custom lucky cookie that has fluid fortification just for her

and maybe a grid PB

[latent plover]

This took me 2 paralysis procs

[sullen lagoon]

Question for theorycrafting experts on gear for DC - at what point does +S-Moves effects outweigh +ATK base stat?

For example, this piece of gear doesn’t have +80atk but has decent sync-moves effects, at what point is it worth the trade off?

[rain copper]

It is still not better than a +80 atk gear

[vernal condor]

gear mults apply after everything

so they're very strong

this is a fantastic gear for this DC

[vagrant ivy]

[normal parcel]

A grid PB can definitely save any unit if they really want

[vernal condor]

Raw with gear that has +80 atk vs +65 atk

Except you have +7% damage on your gear

[normal parcel]

-15atk is pretty rough however

[vernal condor]

If the gear had 40 in atk it would be worse than a gear with +80 atk

[vernal condor]

i literally just showed that 65 atk 7% is better than 80 atk

[normal parcel]

Depends on what unit is used

[vernal condor]

the higher the base atk stat the less important the stats on gear become sure

[misty forge]

15 is still less than a 7% boost even on units like SSN or ASteven imo

[vernal condor]

but here i did the calc with colress, who doesnt have a high attack

[misty forge]

I feel like the trade stops being worth around 50-55 atk

60-65 can get easily off put by amazing skills

[vernal condor]

well it's simple
if you wanna know if a gear is better than another, do (base attack + gear stat) * gear mults for both gears and see which is higher

* mega mult if any ofc

[rain copper]

But i hate math

[civic island]

Depending on unit stats you can consider +20 worth as much as 3.5-4%

[normal parcel]

Grid nodes and theme skills matters too

[civic island]

That's why custom feathers by themselves just sucks
Or are just lazy options

[vernal condor]

btw a thing i don't know, do they apply before or after mega boost

[normal parcel]

Custom feather are fine if you use them for the gear that boosts the wrong attack stat

[civic island]

Gear stats shpuld scale with mega and form change

[vernal condor]

gears i know yes

it's theme skill and grid that i don't

[normal parcel]

Like colress doesn't Care if a gear has +60 spatk or +80 only attack

[civic island]

Oh those, iirc its no

[normal parcel]

Theme skills and sync grid doesn't scale with mega

[civic island]

Checking pomatools

[normal parcel]

However gears are additive with each other so maybe +7% for -15 isn't worth if you have other boosts from other gears

And you should consider also how good is your finisher, because it will suffer for -15 but won't get the 7% boost

For steel I don't think the finisher is good enough

[vernal condor]

just have max stats and best passive on all gears, ez

[normal parcel]

Wondering if SS gladion will be good enough for single target (without the busted teammates)

[vernal condor]

|| ||

well gladion should still reach like 2m on single

[normal parcel]

I mean without penny and SS wally

[vernal condor]

should still get the mil

[normal parcel]

Or at least without 3/5 SS wally, because at that point you use him to nuke

[vernal condor]

we'll see that next week

[normal parcel]

Yes 2 b moves should hit for at least 1m

[bright niche]

Damn nice where is game play??

[latent plover]

I didn't record but there are runs like I did on the doc

[bright niche]

Ohh but can u tell me the queues of moves and sync??

[latent plover]

First sync with Steven, then Lillie, then all others with Colress

You want to set up with Steven first

[bright niche]

How much sync did u manage to do with him

[bright niche]

Which setup coz colress can debuff defense

[latent plover]

4 times

Watch the videos on the doc, they basically did the same as I did but one even got a much higher score than I did

[bright niche]

Ok thanks

[normal parcel]

Wondering if renegade Cynthia + arc Steven + Aron may be optimal for ghost aoe

I guess 3 b moves with defend order spam, is faster than leaf + Barry spam, but not sure if Aron can keep up with gauges

Maybe with fast track on Aron and speedy entry 2 on steven

[pallid girder]

Last time the best team is not NCLeaf + Barry though. It's SGardenia + Colress.

[normal parcel]

Ah yes always forget s gardenia exists

I guess for non s gardenia havers can still be a better option than leaf if you can make the gauge work

In the end Cynthia has her own ghost zone, and gardenia isn't super fast regardless

Ok a steel zone is faster than 2 ghost zones

And Aron is faster than colress if you can make the gauge work

[pallid girder]

Sadly manually summon zone always waste time compared to field ex.

[normal parcel]

But gardenia still manually summons a steel zone

Ok Cynthia should summon 2, but infliction freebie stalls for time

Not 100% sure if the gauges would be manageable with Aron

[pallid girder]

SGardenia has random team buff that has a chance to buff eva. That's the real play.

[normal parcel]

I guess if you really really like to throw the dices

[pallid girder]

That's how top 1 be top 1 XD

[normal parcel]

I was talking more about a comp to humanly score more

Not about top 1

I mean a comp for regular humans, that don't want to get a 0.1% odds clear

Renegade Cynthia has 80% crit, so adding extra RNG is really really bad

What are the odds of getting an evasion boost, on top of dodges and critting all the AOE syncs with 80% crit?

Sometimes the best comp isn't the best comp for like 99% of the players just because that comp may be ultra RNG heavy

[fluid anvil]

Aaron will never have enough gauge on that team, not even with fast-track
and Steven cant just spam 3 B-moves (which is already slow), he needs to use a different move in-between B-moves .. so 6 moves total still
SLOW
jsut use NC leaf/Lenora and wait for the Ghost Arc

[true locust]

Arc cynthia and spiritomb😘

At halloween

[pallid girder]

I mean even if you don't roll eva it's still gonna do a good 2M or so. It's not like w/o eva that team is way worse than NC Leaf (it's not).

[fluid anvil]

if Ghost Arc is a support and can do AoE -SpDef debuffs - Renegade Cynthia could be looking at 5M score, maybe 5,5M
unless Ghost Arc is a strong AoE nuker, then just she gets replaced probably

[normal parcel]

I mean tm + 2 potions is fine, potions are instant since he tends to be always at full health

[normal parcel]

The point is the team is still better than leaf even without Eva?

I mean if u already have to deal with 80% sync Crits, and I don't wanna to add extra RNG, is acerola team still better than leaf?

Personally I hate to have multiple layers of RNG

Like I could fish for an Eva or full para if my nuker has 100% crit and I don't need to fish for stuffs like MPR on top of that

Wondering what will be the best f2possible (basically anything that isn't a mix unit) option for grass weak

[unique abyss]

Hmm SS Erika/Colress/egg Leafeon(support Sprigatito)?

[normal parcel]

I said f2possible not f2p

And SS Erika for AOE will be much worse than Brendan

F2possible = (anything but mix units)

I mean adaman is f2possible because f2p players can have it

[unique abyss]

Okay okay, was looking only at f2p

[normal parcel]

Mix red isn't f2possible because f2p can't have it (maybe 1 f2p player in the whole world that got him in daily scout... Maybe)

Best candidates should be Brendan, adaman and SC Sonia

Adaman on paper nukes harder than Brendan and has guaranteed crit, but will probably waste too much time with b moves

With 1 b move I think Adaman nukes a bit weaker than Brendan (assuming x3 for Brendan) but guaranteed crit should make for it, not sure if with 1 b move can nuke the same as Brendan

SC Sonia has more multipliers than Brendan, but her attack stat is quite low compared to him

And one of the multipliers is solar flare

And sync power flux means no melony comps

[vernal condor]

mix red erasure

[normal parcel]

Mix red isn't f2possible

[misty forge]

Pretty sure mix units aren't in daily scout? That would be kinda dumb

[civic island]

They are
only red for now

[west creek]

Ill try Lilligant with each sync getting the SE+ that you can potentially get from the grid

If that doesn't work, MixRed will do it

[modest plaza]

I think this team should be doing way more damage, but I’m good with this

[normal parcel]

Mix red is in the pool, but the chances are so abismally low that it can't be even. Considered,

Don't know the exact rates but is something like 1 in a million Chance

[normal parcel]

Brendan will be way better, selene too

You don't really want to deal with confusion in DC

Unless you are so broken (dalhia) that it doesn't matters

[west creek]

Still worth a shot

[normal parcel]

I mean if you have Brendan that's a no brainer over Lusamine

[stoic crest]

Can the free Lillie, arc Steven, and like colress make 1 Million?

[compact scaffold]

[normal parcel]

They can do over 2m

[swift pulsar]

The best I could do

[normal parcel]

Without arc Steven I guess that's it

[stoic crest]

Oh good do we have grids? My Steven is 1/5

[swift pulsar]

Arc Steven is haunting me because I couldn’t get it yet and I’m out of gems

[west creek]

I have Brendan and MixRed, but it would be interesting to try something else also

[normal parcel]

Steven is fine with 1/5

[west creek]

Also i love units that can put SE+ before sync, like Toucannon or Clawitzer, so another W

[normal parcel]

Don't think she can get 1m, her multipliers are too annoying

[normal parcel]

Problem.is that 2 sunny days waste time, teeter dance is really slow and confusion won't even last that much, to get seun you need to use leaf storm and that's slow too

[west creek]

Don't tell me the truth, please

[normal parcel]

Of you want to score high with confusion based multipliers the unit should be really broken

[west creek]

I won't use teether dance

[normal parcel]

Plus her multipliers are spread across the grid

[west creek]

In fact, ill use zapdos chance to give confusion

Less time spent

[normal parcel]

But still the multipliers are spread in opposite parts of the grid

Even with +10 you can't get everything

[west creek]

We'll see what to do

I can always make a million, it's just to experiment

[normal parcel]

Yes if you want to experiment you can do it

But what grid you will use?

You can't get solar flare, double down and super effective up next even at +10

[west creek]

To start

[normal parcel]

Btw if you don't use teeter dance you can get super effective up

The passive needs interference to trigger

[west creek]

Ill use various grids

This will be the 1st, then ill use other ones, to be sure which one will deal the most damage

[vapid kernel]

Is grass next?

[west creek]

Yep

[normal parcel]

But you still need confusion

[west creek]

Zapdos can do that

Then i sing spam

Peak gameplay

[normal parcel]

I guess, but still you have to deal with confusion animation

[west creek]

A shame, i know

[normal parcel]

Just don't target the center with leaf storm, because there's no way it will stay confused the whole battle

[west creek]

Got it

[normal parcel]

And if you confuse with 1st discharge probably even the sides won't stay confused

If you really want to keep them confused, you have to spam go viral sing to make sure they won't act and burn confusion turns

[long silo]

Anyone has the spreadsheet for the highest score achieved per type on 3v3

[forest forge]

its in the pins

in the damage clears sheet under the 5th tab

[long silo]

Oh thank you. I thought it was a separate one

Hmmm can't find it. Then again I am on mobile so I'll check once I have access to PC

[feral hamlet]

So Lillie/Solgaleo, Arc Steven, and Colress are the best here? My Colress is only 4/5

[normal parcel]

I think poppy Steven Lillie is the best

But not by an insane amount

4/5 corless still will do the job

A bit weaker but still 2nd place I guess

[feral hamlet]

Okay I can try that

[latent plover]

Poppy hard requires max invesment on her

Unless you have her maxed basically, you're better off sticking to Colress

[rotund sierra]

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[latent plover]

The one for Colress, since he's your main damage dealer

7% sync bonus benefits more than +15 attack

[rotund sierra]

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[latent plover]

I don't think there's much of a difference

[rotund sierra]

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[clever wasp]

Is it just me or is the crits just harder to get in this one?

[latent plover]

You need to get misses and likely some paralysis procs for Colress to sync 4 times

[clever wasp]

Crit rate just feels way low

[rotund sierra]

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[latent plover]

Maybe. Still a good score

[rotund sierra]

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[latent plover]

Yes

And Lillie too

[dire spade]

Colress gaming

[thin wren]

has marnie score risen yet

[cloud timber]

1.86m

wondering if anyone will be pushing bp lusamine

can run ss morty/aaron

[thin wren]

so her highest is still 1.9 mil

[cloud timber]

maybe idk

[thin wren]

seems like she couldn't beat colress as predicted

[latent plover]

Colress can rely on misses to get one more sync compared to Marnie

[cloud timber]

brendan's output is actually ridiculous and makes lusamine's super underwhelming even with all 3 multipliers and seun

[long silo]

How many multipliers does Brendan have. I checked earlier and he has one? But I might be missing something

[cloud timber]

it's just inertia but it's a 2x multiplier and mega evo is actually its own multiplier too

and then there's being able to easily afford 2 more sync nodes

with no overcap

[long silo]

Oh nice

Brendan is my first Grass DPS EXed so I'll try him out

[stoic crest]

What is the best approach for this?

[cloud timber]

arc steven colress lillie

2nd best possible team, worth using even without colress ex

[stoic crest]

I'm guessing cake Lillie and Steven? I was planning on caking them eventually anyway

[cloud timber]

helps quite a lot

never required unless you're desperate for some benchmark

[long silo]

Question, if one is to choose between +2 Atk or +50 sync grid, what's better for overall dmg

[stoic crest]

What is the best grid for Lillie? I'm guessing sync with Steven first, paralysis and lower defense with colress, and then start syncing with Lillie?

[long silo]

Assuming sync rush + one B Move

[stoic crest]

Or is lower stats pointless on colress because of Steven b move?

And I'm guessing colress is just there for the usual paralysis spam?

[long silo]

Colress is the actual DPS

[stoic crest]

Oh so Lillie just sets the field and Steven for extra sync?

[long silo]

Yes

[cloud timber]

oh lillie is sprint base so it would be really bad to not have her field ex

[cloud timber]

sync with lillie once, then colress the rest of the way

idk how much trip wire does but that's what i used and would recommend

you also need to make sure colress has max defense so one of his tms and one steven b move will +6

lot of people use smokescreen sync on colress but realistically it wastes more time than it saves

[stoic crest]

Thank you! I will give it a whirl!

[chilly prawn]

this can hit another sync + crit

but not worth the resets

[thin wren]

use anni lillie over parnie

[chilly prawn]

it's not better for this comp

I'd need to see higher scores with non Arc steven

Some how everyone has it

like I said this team can hit another 400k but the resets will be a lot

Maybe I missed the non arc steven teams though, I checked pins

[civic island]

Check again, quite sure there are f2p teams reaching 1M

[chilly prawn]

my pic is 1.3 with potential +400k if I feel like doing resets for extra sync

O_O.

[civic island]

Depend on how close you were to another sync, if missed by 2-3 then yeah
But the acore looks fine, got a similar one with scSelene instead of Marnie

Red tm is quite slow

[chilly prawn]

yep don't have that character either

it's very close

❤️ sec

just not worth the resets for the run

[stoic crest]

Hey uh sorry I'm late what lucky skills?

[cloud timber]

cs2 everything is good

[stoic crest]

Thank you so much for the detailed explanation. I appreciate the detailed instructions. I got over a million my first try definitely can go higher if I wasn't so slow to hit moves.

[cloud timber]

gg

it's pretty good to play on minimum speed really

if you aren't already

[stoic crest]

Oh that's a very good tip

Thank you

Oh I see next one is triple grass, hmm does that mean 3/5 adaman and SS acerola?

[cunning rock]

Hilariously SS Erika might be amazing for 1M for F2P. She has Inertia, Solar Flare, and SEUN whenever she clicks Sunny Day.

And her sync has +1 crit right?

[pallid girder]

Ppl were arguing Adaman might outdo mix Red even tho he hits st only, but I'll just be happy to try use Brenden hit 1M.

[cloud timber]

brendan for triple, ss erika for single

[warped gulch]

Yeah, less bs

But for f2p ST Grass

idk if Sync spam with Sonia + Melony is better

or GT better tho

If i use GT, that also means i cant use BP Barry

[acoustic chasm]

Gonna try this for Brendan with NC Rosa and Ampharos

[long silo]

Want to ask again here: which is better between +2 Atk buff and two +25 sync grid tile

For context: I was trying to cook something with Rei, but it's either I grab Berserk or two sync tiles

[pallid girder]

You can just use dmg cal if you're alr meddling with the grid.

[warped gulch]

For Rei is 2 Sync tiles

but it is depended on pairs

[long silo]

Was bout to say, but uhhh I messed with Archer before when I attempted to compute for dmg. I got calcs wrong lol

NC Rosa and NC Blue

[warped gulch]

.

[long silo]

Alright, thanks

I'll also check calcs but ye I got it wrong earlier so I figured to ask first lol

[warped gulch]

Mostly bc he doesn't have much Sync multiplier and his Atk stats already very high

[long silo]

If I'm feeling insane maybe I'll go for the RNG with Rosa's B Move

Fun way to spend a weekend

[warped gulch]

You can use Her B Move 1st turn so it isn't a big deal

wait

you need Fightng Rebuff

nvm

[long silo]

Need to sync first lol

Yes

[warped gulch]

Do you plan to use his B Move ?

Or just final move

[long silo]

This particular one is final. But I'll be testing both B Move spam and final B Move

As for the final B Move grid

Maximum sweat RNG play

[sacred badger]

Grass multi in 2 resets huh

[long silo]

Will be using both Brendan and Mix Red

[normal parcel]

Just save a screech and you can do it without rng

[normal parcel]

I think most people already have Brendan or Selene

[cloud timber]

doesn't make it impossible that someone would want to use bp lusamine

[sullen zephyr]

is Klara a better nuker than SS Roxie for poison DC?

[pallid girder]

SS Roxie compresses her own zone, so I think she'll outdo Klara.

[normal parcel]

I mean, you can still use BP rose even if you already have colress and kimono grimsley, if you really don't want to get 1m

[cloud timber]

yeah

[pallid girder]

SS Roxie can also try proc para so Oleana can't proc poison.

[clever wasp]

I really don't get it. Every time I try for more points with Colress I miss a crit or am one para/miss from a better score

Opponent raises evasion or lowers accuracy once I hit like 1/10 moves. I para them and get to -6 accuracy they hit everything

Never makes sense

[crude sandal]

That's just luck my man

[cursive linden]

RNGesus hates you

[clever wasp]

This room forever

[clever wasp]

Considering I've gone over a third of mix scout points odds and no Leaf, yes

[normal parcel]

-6 accuracy is like a 25% Chance to miss, and like 1.5% chance for brutal swing, not sure about paralysis, but the chance is quite low 5%?

[fiery rose]

They have all the usual status/stat drop mitigations still

So debuffs aren't worth more than proccing passives really

Same with paralysis

It's less than 5% to fail a move with lessen paralysis 8 iirc

[cloud timber]

exactly 5% i think

been saying not to use smokescreen sync, prob also doing several other things making life harder than it needed to be

like using more than 1 b move with steven

and not gridding lillie to maximize damage on her sync

[normal parcel]

-4 def, without smokescreen sync should net you guaranteed 4 + 2 syncs

The RNG starts when you want to get -6 def I guess

Don't know if headstart/adrenaline are needed

[sullen zephyr]

Neither of them needs to poison the opps right?

Ss roxie has poison zone, but klara has easier to set up innate and soften up

Grid multipliers are roughly equal, haymaker vs sync induction 9

Klara has smun stacking shenaningan for last second ST nuke

[normal parcel]

Setting like 4 wtz is quite slow

[sullen zephyr]

Are you talking about ss roxie?

[normal parcel]

Yes

Geeta has seun and can stack pmun for her finisher if she gets mpr

[pallid girder]

I reread Geeta's kit after that and I think maybe Geeta + Oleana (spam) + SS Roxie would be the play.
SS Roxie para so no poison drawback.

[normal parcel]

My only invested poison unit is Geeta do I will go with her, she can get 1m in single target so she will be fine

[crude sandal]

Geeta will most likely be 2nd best

[loud cedar]

whats dc tomorrow

oh pouison?

poison?

[warped gulch]

3vs3 Grass

[loud cedar]

oh.

my best unit is ogbrendan 😢

[warped gulch]

#1255888121648644197 message

[tender patrol]

I have 3/5 Adaman I hope he's enough

[rain copper]

Sconia

[sullen zephyr]

I'm thinking of selecting the tech pf banner for a solid poison dmg dealer, and potentially DC sync nuker.
I have Geeta but her performance in ST was less than stellar

[sullen zephyr]

Wait she could? I struggle to get 600k with koga. Geeta was 1/5 thoufh.

[fossil igloo]

I KNEW it was possible! I just need to get lucky with MPR and full paralysis procs to improve the score now.

[normal parcel]

I guess with elio should be even better

Ofc Geeta should be at least 3/5 and I guess exr too for the attack stat

1/5 like 99% of the damage dealers won't do it

I mean I had SS Roxie and Oleana too, but both 1/5, so they are pretty useless

[sullen zephyr]

I don't have a way to rebuff poison tho

But i think i can candy geeta. Don't have any other field pairs anyway

[normal parcel]

Geeta wasn't optimal for 3v1 but she was workable with good partners

[sullen zephyr]

Looks like ST 1M without rebuff would be difficult

[normal parcel]

I guess the problem with poison types is that most of them rely on poison, and poison slows down the battle

[sullen zephyr]

3v3 is doable me thinks

[normal parcel]

Rebuff is like 30% extra damage so isn't negligible

[sullen zephyr]

I'll hold onto my paid gems

[normal parcel]

3v3 Geeta should easily get 1m

I guess even 1/5 could work with plumeria

1 think 1/5 Geeta + melony + plumeria should get 1m in poison aoe

[sullen zephyr]

Salazzle?

[normal parcel]

Yes

I mean if you have a better AOE premium nuker even better, but for f2p salazzle should be fine

[sullen zephyr]

Oh salazzle has grid expansion. I didn't know that0

[normal parcel]

Melony should have no gauge issues since salazzle is really fast and can get + 6 speed

[sullen zephyr]

+1.5 multiplier is bredy gud

[normal parcel]

Still better than 1/5 geeta

I mean 150% isn't that bad

[sullen zephyr]

3/5 geeta only has haymaker

[normal parcel]

3/5 Geeta has 130%

[sullen zephyr]

Oh?

[normal parcel]

Has virulent toxin 3 too

[sullen zephyr]

Oh right

But poison

[normal parcel]

Is more that Geeta has 593 max base attack

[sullen zephyr]

That's near double salazzle's spatk

[normal parcel]

However salazzle has a lot of attack on grid

[sullen zephyr]

Spatk +30

[normal parcel]

Plus easy 5/5 still gives a BP boost compared to 3/5 that most Geeta are

[normal parcel]

And also free +20

And you can grab another +15 if you really want

She caps at 435 total sp attack (discounting gears and theme skills)

Then you can get +100 from gears and like +39 if you slot Geeta and melony

+30 from poison theme and +9 from grown woman

3/5 Geeta is definitely a better unit, but salazzle is a great f2p option

Assuming poison zone, there isn't a big gap between 3/5 Geeta sync and 5/5 salazzle, Geeta sync is still a bit stronger, but the selling point is that you could use salazzle slot to get something that could buff Geeta damage even further

[sullen zephyr]

Like redlax?

[normal parcel]

Yes that's an option

However Geeta can get her own seun if you are willing to fish for MPR (but mpr2 is miserable)

I mean if you have 1/5 Geeta, salazzle will work great as a nuker

If you have 3/5 Rolex Geeta just nuke with her

[sacred badger]

poison multi?

mid october huh

gonna be either geeta 2/5 (have a field candy) or ariana

[pallid girder]

Ariana will be super bad. Her muliplirs are posion, interference and power play.

She concludes 3 worst multipliers you want to see on any unit.

[spiral halo]

Who will thrive at grass 3v3 tomorrow? 3/5 EXR MixRed or 5/5 EX Brendan?

[vagrant ivy]

for poison DC the game has a sample team of ball guy geeta and fall iris

whether it's a good team is a different story

i don't think we are playing DC the way they intended us to play tbh

[sacred badger]

3/5R will be tough to get sp.def down spam.

[crude sandal]

Either Mix Red or Adaman

[spiral halo]

No Adaman but yeah getting -6 Sdef for Mix Red might be a pain

[latent plover]

Mix Red can run with NC Blue and Melony, while Brendan can't

So Red

[spiral halo]

Who's Brendan's best partner then? His multiplier is inertia so I thought NC Blue might be the best to max his speed

[wise dune]

I'm guessing Red will want to use his B Frenzy twice to drop sp.def next to Blue+Melony despite the long animations

[latent plover]

Brendan also needs sun I'm pretty sure

[spiral halo]

Sun is just for DPS not for sync

[wise dune]

Not for sync thankfully

[latent plover]

Ah ok. Well I imagine Mix Red is easier because he always crits and provides his own terrain

So I think Red will be higher than Brendan

[wise dune]

Yeah, I think Red will be better by compressing GT

[latent plover]

Good thing I have mine maxed for this one

[wise dune]

Perhaps Brendan may use SS Acerola for GT + speed buffs ?

[crude sandal]

Then who will spam?

[wise dune]

Probably BP Barry/Colress

Sleep spam would be out the question with Acerola

[spiral halo]

Brendan's sync is physical

[crude sandal]

BP Barry

[warped gulch]

BP Barry is out already with Acerola

[wise dune]

Are they not compatible?

[warped gulch]

Stun Spore is grass move

So it’ll heal every time you click it under GT

[wise dune]

Omg

Lol

Then maybe Oleana? Who else can spam with support Ex and no para/burn/poison

[slender venture]

SS Steven

In normal mode, fuel economy cosmic power

[wise dune]

Doesn't he need a Def/spdef support? Is it also faster if he needs to buff himself?

[warped gulch]

Who buff both his SpDef and Def tho

[slender venture]

You need 4 uses before it's capped

Can LS wise entry 2

So 2 uses

[warped gulch]

Then Aaron still faster tho

[crude sandal]

Maybe something like this for Brendan
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/1900/25400?s=5&l=140&r=6&p=0&a=13016303&g=AAECAwQFBgkREhMUFhkeISMqKywuLw

[warped gulch]

Bc Steven’ll summon PT which watse time

[wise dune]

Attack mode has cosmic power too right

[slender venture]

Yes, but 2 gauge

[warped gulch]

Why not this

[wise dune]

Right fuel economy

[warped gulch]

Cheaper and more dmg

[crude sandal]

Is it better than a +25 sync move node?

Ah wait

Now I get it

[warped gulch]

It literally the same but with extra +10 Atk and less E

[crude sandal]

Also it's perfect for people who have 3/5 Brendan

[spiral halo]

More like dirt poor of sync orbs

[crude sandal]

Also, using Adaman might be complicated

Because he needs sun for his multiplier

[icy pendant]

he has his own sun though?

[crude sandal]

It will wear off on his 1st sync

[icy pendant]

maybe first sync misses sun but you have it for every sequential one

[crude sandal]

What TM does the enemy have?

[icy pendant]

your first sync isn’t the big damage sync anyway

[crude sandal]

Let's see what's better for Mix Red; Redlax setting up SEUN for him or NC Blue setting up his Smarty-Pants faster

@warped gulch Wut you think?

[warped gulch]

Idk

[acoustic chasm]

It's still a mistery how they intend us to get 1 million points without cheesing

[simple saddle]

Yeah honestly I just do it for the gems

[normal parcel]

I remember getting 1m in psychic AOE and fighting st without cheesing (because I didn't even knew about colress strats back then) and I think rock and fairy AOE didn't used spam either, but most stages definitely needs spam to 1m (especially single target)

[vagrant ivy]

nobody knew about twave/sing spam in the first DC

it was only in the second fighting 3v1 dc that the strat took off

since ig people couldn’t score high by spamming b move there anymore

[vagrant ivy]

ok tbh a few did know but it wasn’t mainstream

[normal parcel]

With my roster spam wouldn't have helped me score more than 1m for fighting

I mean when I did the spam strat in ranked I scored roughly the same I think

[chilly prawn]

Do I go for all crits 🤮

[vernal condor]

we knew

[chilly prawn]

Definitely not

[vernal condor]

about twave at least

[vernal condor]

and it wasnt worth

[latent plover]

The sing spam was known, that's how the top score was achieved

By abusing it with Rosa

[sacred badger]

Hmmm Mix Red, ss Acerola and Colress.... Ss Acerola, Adaman and Colress?

[vernal condor]

it wasnt sing spam

it was perma stunning the enemies with sleep

[latent plover]

It was partially since this relied on Rosa keep stunning all the enemies with sing, but otherwise yeah since it was actually better to let Lusamine attack since she wasn't nerfed by aoe

[sweet grail]

can you tell me about this story again?

i just loaded discord and saw this text

[warped gulch]

If you really want, you can voice with me while i’m playing FE

[strange notch]

Uh oh 💀

[warped gulch]

[strange notch]

I remember someone long ago having the same thing happen to Anni Steven

Where they went to almost pity but couldn’t finish, then got anni in the rerun as a second pity

[true locust]

Lol 2 pitty?

[warped gulch]

Nah, mine is different bc i was stupid

[true locust]

Soo cheap

I got many 5 pittys haha🤣 like ss lussa

[vernal condor]

[warped gulch]

[strange notch]

[true locust]

It was back then when my idol cyi plays haha

Now never do it again haha

Was stupid

Pref have 1/5 then spend again this mutch

[strange notch]

Bro really pulled for 5/5 on all units

[true locust]

Like me

[strange notch]

Do you STILL do that

[true locust]

Yes but not for all

[strange notch]

Bro how much does that cost

[true locust]

Some still have 1/5🤩

[strange notch]

That has to be like $5000 a month

At least

[vagrant ivy]

well not if he gets lucky

[true locust]

Last year i got decent luck

Cant complain

[vagrant ivy]

can get lucky too

[strange notch]

Nah it’s probably like 2 grand ac

Wait no bc 5/5 not 1/5

So you’re pitying twice usually

[warped gulch]

New paid banner is very good for whale

[true locust]

Yes

Since i get 3/5 any way

[normal parcel]

Arc suits are extremely good for whales, but a kick in the nuts for anyone that can't afford the paid route

500 pity for guaranteed 3/5 is great, for just 1/5 and nothing else, is terrible

At least if that added something for the f2p banner too just to justify the 500 pity

Maybe a guaranteed candy after 10 multi

[true locust]

I don’t like 500 points and banner diffrence

Since its scam for non pay banner

Or keep 400 or give just candy like pay

[limber onyx]

Is it worth it to give Lillie the Field Cake and EX Colress?

Like... I don't got anyone else really?

[brisk shale]

exr Lillie is good for rally too

[civic island]

Generally it's not really worth to fully investing in two units just for DC
But depeding on your resources Colress EX is always a good unit

And caked Lillie is quite great
Lot of damage and utility, for many gamemodes

[clever wasp]

Lillie is definitely worth it

[normal parcel]

Lillie is a great unit even outside of DC, and colress is a good nuker

[civic island]

Ye, that's why for many gamemodes
Sure she's worth

[royal jolt]

Me when Brendan is my best unit for 3v3 Grass

[true locust]

Mix red prob be the best

Nc blue and melony

Only need use his b move 2 time is issue

[lapis yarrow]

Is it best to wait to see what others to do tomorrow? Nor sure who will be the best team comp

[cloud timber]

brendan is a lot stronger than he looks at first glance and there actually aren't many better options

[true locust]

Mix red brendan

Only good red always crit and terrain

[fluid anvil]

mix red will struggle to break 3M 😦

[cloud timber]

yea mix red adaman and sc sonia would all prob pull ahead

but idk if there's anything else

or if sc sonia actually does it for sure

[scenic grotto]

Decided to make a short list, basically trying find out if you could have just 1 limited unit for each type (and probably one or two limited support based units like Redlax, NC Blue, and Larry) which unit would be able to get the most points on both 3v1 and 3v3 for each type

The idea being that if you’re a new player and want to use DC as a way to figure what limited damage dealing units are good

Also a “which F2P unit is best damage dealer for DC” just because I could (I know that 3v1 and 3v3 would want different F2P units)

[fluid anvil]

Grass - Adaman
Ice - NC Red
Ground - Arc Cynthia
Steel - probably Poppy
Psychic - Lear with Strike EX role, Jacq
Fighting - NC Hop
fire - NC Leaf
Water - Dahlia

[scenic grotto]

Thanks 👍

[misty forge]

Isn't silver miles better than Hilda

[scenic grotto]

Oh, you’re correct

[dense citrus]

Hmm.... maybe possibly good?

[misty forge]

Also pretty sure Bea is better than Riley because of the fact he needs exr to 3v3

[misty forge]

Pretty sure Brendan still better

[dense citrus]

Doesn't he only have inertia for sync multipliers tho?

[misty forge]

Yeah, but he has high AF stats

And no mega penalty

[scenic grotto]

Brendan benefits from what is known as “not having mega on release”

[misty forge]

Brendan has 600 atk post mega

That's 50% more than lilligant

[cloud timber]

if you don't have bp lusamine already ex you 100% want brendan

even if you did brendan is still better

and doesn't need energy overcap

[rare apex]

🦎 brendan sweep 🦎

[cloud timber]

you'd also really want to have 3/5 exr ss morty for her

and then you'd be resetting for 40% rolls for seun and still underperform

[feral hamlet]

How do I get 1M?

[normal parcel]

do you have exr lillie?

[latent plover]

Psychic 3v1 goes to Jacq. He did 3.5 million at least. SS Hilda got higher score than Leaf in 3v3 fire

[normal parcel]

leaf will be great for 3v1

however ss hilda team still relied on leaf i think

[latent plover]

Yeah it did. So I guess that's why?

My points about Lear still stands

Jacq got higher and Lusamine was top in 3v3

[normal parcel]

i mean leaf still has single target nuke

[latent plover]

Yeah but her damage in fire 3v3 didn't match Hilda

[normal parcel]

because hilda has aoe damage

3x sync damage is an huge buff in aoe

but still leaf still was part of the equation

[feral hamlet]

Yeah. I even took off the team healing passive off steven

[royal fulcrum]

Question for tomorrow: Since it's 3v3 would Adaman still work well or should I use Brendan because of Strike EX.

I assume Adaman would still be the superior choice but I figured I'd just ask

(My Adaman is 3/5 EX for what its worth, and I am now realizing this is a silly question lol)

[feral hamlet]

Still getting less than half the reported score, as expected.

[vagrant ivy]

grid?

[unique abyss]

just skill issue things, my non-EX Corless scored 1M

[feral hamlet]

I dunno, he just doesn't hit 1M hard

[feral hamlet]

The same one from the pins but without the extra energy

Can't get more than 3 syncs in. That's the limit

[cloud timber]

use steven's b move exactly once and use colress's tm to get to +6 defense

make sure steven is not set as tank

[normal parcel]

using screech one time should be enough to ensure 4th sync

[sacred badger]

Damn your Ice roster gonna be crying ;-;

Oh wait youve got nc red o.o

[feral hamlet]

Oh I haven't tried this

Do I want CS2 on Colress as well?

[cloud timber]

always

only reason to not have cs2 on your damage dealer is being able to afford sp3 or ww3

[feral hamlet]

I had Mind Games 2 on him

Good enough 👍

[cloud timber]

nice

[lethal siren]

Ig blue and melony spam will work with brendan

Coz he needs speed

[copper otter]

Chat, hear me out.

[thin wren]

everyone ready for the hardest dc

[cloud timber]

?

[thin wren]

we will have to touch grass

[copper otter]

???

St Grass will be harder, here we can touch grass everywhere

[thin wren]

Touching grass is cringe tho

[cloud timber]

i touch grass

it's good

[lethal siren]

Can ss Erika do anything in st grass

[brisk shale]

rolling on grass>>>

[cloud timber]

ss erika will be decent

[thin wren]

noooo

[jagged radish]

Surprised Colress is so good for hau's challenge, pleasantly surprise

thought i was screwed for single target steel

[sly drum]

will 2/5 colress be enough to do meaningful damage to hau

[rain copper]

You better use Anni Lillie in this case

+legexchange get Solgaleo to 5/5 20/20 tho, it's free resources

[wispy pagoda]

When completing a Legendary Adventure in the Main Story section, you will be awarded a sync pair, 4 vouchers and 20 power-ups (usable on that pair only)

• Trade the vouchers for copies of that pair (in the shop > legendary adventure tab)
• DO NOT TRADE the power-ups, use all 20 on the unlocked pair (in upgrade > potential tab)
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[sly drum]

yeah, i just havent bothered with legendary story stuff after picking the game back up yet, i actually have the solgaleo from when it was first run before they just had the dedicated mode

[delicate junco]

Before the reset happens, can anyone help me improve my steel damage?

im using Steven (original) as my attacker, who sadly doesnt have dire hits

[thin wren]

don't

og Steven ain't very good for dc

do you have 3/5 colress

[delicate junco]

no

wait why is steven not good

here is my list of syncs btw

[rain copper]

Anni Lillie is your best bet

[thin wren]

mega tax lowers his sync base bp and his grid only gives him 130% multiplier. The only thing he has going for him is sure crit and decent attack

Og Steven in general is not good

he's bad

[delicate junco]

so lillie then

and who else?

[rain copper]

bring who can sync rush and setup Cakewalk for Lillie

is your Lillie caked btw?

[thin wren]

lillie also needs someone to max crit right?

[rain copper]

yes

but she has Sharp Entry 1 on grid

you want to grid her with sync multipliers anyway

[delicate junco]

no cake

no ex either

was going to EX her but champion stadium proved more difficult than initially thought

Will still need assistance with that

[thin wren]

we got free 20 vouchers a few days ago in the shop

for the ex.... come to #1009554906568462476 for help on that

[delicate junco]

I caked Redlax with those, with the remainder going to field

[fossil igloo]

Grass is my specialty.

[civic island]

Eventually ssSteven instead of barry looks perfect

[copper otter]

Wait ss steven?

[pallid girder]

If you want grass rebuff Dahila is a better choice. She can also help debuff spdef for multiplier and acc to gamble for miss.

[copper otter]

WAIT. SYCAMORE RAISES BOTH DEFENSES BY 4.... I COULD USE AARON INSTEAD FOR FASTER INPUT

ALSO STOPS STUN SPORE HEALING

[civic island]

Yep, Aaaron or ssSteven looks great
Barry under grass terrain is going to be bad

HSycamore being close to an actual multi role supp

[pallid girder]

Is it the reason he gets striker exr? Let you deal a bit more dmg in 3v3 dc lol

[copper otter]

hmmmm i need spdef drops

[civic island]

That's just dena doing random stuff
It's not really worth by any means

[copper otter]

wow.... I was cooking up like crazy for this reset's DC......

I don't have Striker EXR on Red

[pallid girder]

I hate it... He can at least get 1 sync multiplier and be a meme 1M support dd but dena say nah.

[quick magnet]

How about SC Steven?

[copper otter]

i mean, i SHOULD be fine, I'm working with AOE -1 rebuff, and GT...

Maybe sync should be enough after 3 Frenzy plants?

[pallid girder]

Isn't his rebuff st? He's always not the best choice in 3v3 unless the striker really need to setup kekwok.

[sacred badger]

whatcha cooking? ;o

[lethal siren]

Why my pairs are 2/5 during dc

We r close to ice weakness

How you guys think triple opponent fairy team will do in single fairy

[sacred badger]

for single fairy, pal serena gaming for me

[lethal siren]

Ss Wally for me

[crude sandal]

IMO, NC Blue/Melony will be better since Blue has Satisfied Snicker

[lethal siren]

Ye

[crude sandal]

And he can complete Devastation after using Discharge twice

And also doesn't need to do X Speed All+

Because Wally has Team Speedy Entry

[lethal siren]

Yea

[rain copper]

my best bet is Summer Marnie

Wally is only 1/5 for me

[lethal siren]

Nc blue can activate mind blogger too with his gombsmack

He has gombsmack 4 iirc

Oh it's 2

Well fine ig

But Wally needs mega for bmove

Wht abt that

[rain copper]

just sync with support first then him

[thin wren]

will you aim for top score here?

mix red 3/5 exr should be enough for 1 mil right?I have no grass enablers other than him

[crude sandal]

Mix Red is the best DD

Assuming you can set him up

[civic island]

Standard ncBlue Melony will works just as fine
Even scSonia ssAcerola Colress is a comp that can score high, but not many have her and not having sure crit on triple is so frustrating

[crude sandal]

Yeah, but people scored 6M with Hau despite not having sure crit

[civic island]

Yup they're fishing for good rng, still pain
So MRed Adaman SCSonia

Even Brendan ssAcerola Colress will do fine ig
Acerola can max speed within one tm mpr

[rain copper]

SC Sonia should be the best dmg dealer for Grass 3v3

[civic island]

She is, all depend if mRed can slot one extra sync thanks to sing spam

[fossil igloo]

Easily.

[fossil igloo]

I'm going to do my best and see what happens.

[fossil igloo]

I'm going to see how Teatime Sonia and Mix Red both perform for myself. I have a strong idea of what to do for each one.

[thin wren]

something tells me that you are very happy

[rain copper]

[old valve]

Any super last minute team suggestions? Don't want to leave this undone but also don't want a crappy score lol

I'd assume Colress is the way to go but I'm not 100% sure of how to set him up

[cloud timber]

colress with lillie and hilbert i think

lillie for sure

[thin wren]

is that arc Steven or regular Steven

[old valve]

Lillie over Marnie? Huh, alright.

[thin wren]

Lillie gives extra cd

[warped gulch]

Is your Lillie caked ?

[old valve]

That is normal steven

[warped gulch]

If not Marnie is better

[old valve]

My Lillie is not caked

[cloud timber]

best two teams are with lillie and arc steven

better to have her than not

though if she's not caked marnie is good

[old valve]

Does Lillie want to use her trainer move or nah

I'm not too familiar with this sort of stuff haha

[cloud timber]

i actually didn't use it but i think some people did and i'm not certain what's better lol

prob using it is

i still got 1.8m but i didn't grind very hard

[sacred badger]

gotcha. mix red gaming for me, then adaman lulz

[normal parcel]

Barry is terrible in grassy terrain

[old valve]

Unless I'm doing something terribly wrong that can be remedied in the next half an hour I think this is the best I can get

Managing to fit everything together to sneak two sync moves under one steel zone was really satisfying though

[thin wren]

probably the former

[thin wren]

you should get in 4 syncs under steel zone

3-4

[old valve]

Under one steel zone?

[thin wren]

Yes

it's extended so it lasts for 100 seconds

lillie sprint ex makes it enough for 4 syncs

3 if no rng

@old valve are you using the status spam strat properly

[old valve]

I think??

[normal parcel]

How much does regular wtz last? 50 seconds?

[old valve]

You just spam screech or twave a bunch while their respective effect is already up/maxed right

Is there more to it than that

[old valve]

45 iirc

[normal parcel]

Not screech

[civic island]

50, but you lose abt 5s for the animation

[normal parcel]

But if you use terrain with 50s left it lasts the rest of the battle?

[old valve]

Also wym the zone is extended? I don't see anything extending it here?

[normal parcel]

Field ex sync extends it

[thin wren]

not on field exr

[old valve]

.

[thin wren]

not screech. Only t wave. Do you have infliction freebie gridded

[civic island]

Yup, that's why field exr feel like it last nore, bcs its istantaneous

[old valve]

Ahhh that might be my problem. Yes I do tho

[normal parcel]

It lasts twice as much

[civic island]

50 base + 50 extended

Sstred got 50 50 50

[thin wren]

it even makes passives that trigger on wtz like ss mina and ss hau trigger without anim

[civic island]

They trigger during the sync animation?

[old valve]

Is smokescreen sync okay to have on for this or would it waste too much time

@thin wren

[thin wren]

it saves a lot of time

[thin wren]

yep

right before the sync

[old valve]

Smokescreen sync saves time? Alright then

[thin wren]

if the enemy misses

[cursive linden]

I F

[civic island]

Btw wonder if Adaman scSonia bpBarry could work
Alternating syncs to keep sun up

[old valve]

Using Twave spam I somehow managed to score significantly lower than when I was doing screech

I don't think using Lillie's sync under Steel Zone is worth it lol

[civic island]

You use her just to trigger zone and get some.sync cd/dmg

[cloud timber]

you're only using her to sync once for zone

pykuo and i mentioned that if she's not caked you can take marnie

bc field ex is the reason you'd want to use her

[normal parcel]

If you never never dodge a liquidatin it wastes like 2 seconds, if you dodge at least one it saves time

[cloud timber]

25% chance to dodge one at -6

[normal parcel]

Personally for my run I was super tight with smokescreen sync if I never dodged, but I was fine without it

[cloud timber]

with a few more chances to dodge at -2 and -4 maybe

[normal parcel]

You don't get -6 till 3rd colress sync

[cloud timber]

yeah once you reach -6 you have exactly one chance left to dodge

[normal parcel]

I mean if your run is super tight an you don't want to add extra RNG, is better to avoid smokescreen

[cloud timber]

you generally don't want smokescreen really, you can reach max syncs without it

[normal parcel]

If you are fishing for paralysis/miss go for it

[cloud timber]

it's just something that looks good at first glance but when you actually look at things it sucks

[old valve]

Kinds too late to set up a marnie run now I think but at least the score went up a little

[cloud timber]

yeah you'll have way more time to do stuff next rotation

[old valve]

Yea

[cloud timber]

best you do it now or risk running into the same situation lol

[old valve]

Didn't know about this status move stuff for a while tbh so my records for this are allll over the place

Best I've gotten was a 1,495,681 on Hugh via Ash/TB Red/Anni Blue

[thin wren]

What's the highest scorer rn

[sacred badger]

Hrm

[thin wren]

why bulurola?

also t wave spam is slow af in gt

[fluid tendon]

Shouldn't be

Only grass moves trigger the healing

[thin wren]

oooo right

that's why barry was being slow

still bulurola ain't worth it there

[sacred badger]

Not quite sure what could help here tbh hrm

[thin wren]

do you have nc blue or chase @sacred badger

[sacred badger]

Got the zapdos but chase js 2/5

[thin wren]

chase is better

Just dodge everything

use chase red and melony@sacred badger

or elio if you are having gauge issues

[sacred badger]

But how do i setup mix red's nuke?

[thin wren]

wait lemme check something

[dire spade]

I's assume setting up grass type rebuff with Adaman + Mix Red as nuke is slower

[hollow whale]

Hmm

[cloud timber]

seems somewhat ideal

[hollow whale]

RoSCa not doing the numbers I’ve hoped

Maybe… SConia

[thin wren]

nvm chase doesn't get mind games till 5/5 so go nc blue

[hidden fog]

Who will set sun for SC Sonia?

[thin wren]

bulurola?

[cursive mauve]

Ok ig

[thin wren]

do you have 5/5 chase

[true locust]

Yes

[thin wren]

could you test something for me

[hollow whale]

… dammit I forgot her multiplier comes from Sun

[thin wren]

chase melony and red

[sacred badger]

Wut how do you setup mix red's nuke? O.o

[warped gulch]

2 B Move + Blue ofc

[sacred badger]

Hmmm

[warped gulch]

Red has -2 Sync CD with Max Move

[thin wren]

nc Blue has sp def drop on sync

[warped gulch]

Grid it

[thin wren]

I am only getting 1.2 mil with chase melony mix red

but my chase and mix red are only 3/5

@fossil igloo gl on grass dc

[hidden fog]

So many whales

[thin wren]

I hope you can get number 1

[thin wren]

I am a dolphin

[hidden fog]

So many non-f2ps

[cloud timber]

i am f2p

[hollow whale]

Goddammit I’m stuck for grass

[candid nexus]

So red is the way?

[thin wren]

seems to be so far

[hidden fog]

Looks like MRed is the way so far

[thin wren]

it's only been 23 minutes

[hidden fog]

Where's the SS Erika clear?

[thin wren]

has anyone tested sc sonia yet?she has the strongest aoe grass nuke but has some issues

[cloud timber]

brendan > ss erika here

[cursive saddle]

how does Aaron spam moves?

Defend Order?

[cloud timber]

yeah

[cursive mauve]

Improvement (I only changed CS2 to SP3)

[faint quiver]

Average gear, a bit more to 2 mil.

[forest forge]

https://youtu.be/suZomPYxCU0?si=5BYJfNe7Y01jeUvv

[sacred badger]

Brendan gaming o.o

[long silo]

Run is not optimized so I'll try again later

[sacred badger]

Im assuming youre hitting all crits?

[forest forge]

With Brendan? No

[vast glade]

What grids and move order are you using? Might try this one

[forest forge]

Missed multiple crits

Grids are at the end of video

And skills

Which you need wise entry 2 on Aaron I think

[dire spade]

So I'd assume 1m f2p is possible, but might need good skill gears

[forest forge]

Uh maybe

Maybe if you sub tapu Hulu out for egg leafeon

Actually no that prob won’t work because then you have no speed

I don’t think brendan can get 1m without grass zone

Maybe with snorlax luck but it might waste too much time for animations

[dire spade]

So it is a bad situation for f2p players, sadly

[hidden fog]

Mix Red check

[cloud timber]

brendan/sonia/melony gets 800k

but yea no 1m

[forest forge]

I got 1m with adaman and Brendan but they both kinda suck

Like 1.2m each

[normal parcel]

Wallet check

[fluid tendon]

When did you pop the b moves?