Damage Challenge

[boreal warren]

how many points is top 500 looking like?

[pastel bone]

@glossy token so close

[glossy token]

@vernal condor

for v gio

i do not know that unit to advise for it

[vernal condor]

what did you do

[cedar cloak]

what lucky skill did you changed for your ground

[boreal warren]

CS2 -> SB4

Cynthia

[pastel bone]

sync first with blue, then spam sing for sync for melony, then spam sing, 1 tm for v gio, then eq, sync, spam sing, then tm, sync

[vernal condor]

you don't need to use gio's tm for his 2nd sync

you can't reach his 3rd sync?

[pastel bone]

nope

[vernal condor]

uh

[glossy token]

what are your lucky skills

do either or both of blue and melony have hs1

[pastel bone]

blue has hs1, melony adrenaline 1, and v gio has ww3

[vernal condor]

that's why

melony wants sand shelter

otherwise her spam under sand is so slow

[glossy token]

losing time to sand dmg yeah

mael mentioned it here

[pastel bone]

I don't think she gets sand damage bc of v gio

bc of his passive skill no?

I could be mixing it up with nc silver

one of them have it

[boreal warren]

yea giovannis experience

[vernal condor]

giovanni protects himself from sand

not allies

ah wait no nvm

i misread, he does

[glossy token]

oh huh

how many different passives are they going to make

[vernal condor]

That's weird tho, you should definitely be able to sync 5 times

[glossy token]

whats your gio grid?

[vernal condor]

if you really can't reach 5 sync, just don't sync with Melony

[glossy token]

does it match this?

[vernal condor]

surely the one i recommended

[glossy token]

i mean

ideally

but

im dotting i's and crossing t's

bc it sure seems like smth is missing

[pastel bone]

give me a min

trying again

[vernal condor]

could you record your run

[glossy token]

speaking of, i need to go rerun mine

i thiiink i have a small optimization

i might be wrong

who knows

[pastel bone]

Ok grid might be wrong

But ngl, reaching 96k with this grid is pretty solid

[glossy token]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-holt-brooklyn-nine-nine-brooklyn99-captain-raymond-holt-andre-braugher-gif-13945912

[vernal condor]

oh yeah wait I noticed something

[pastel bone]

ok I maxed out his grid

[vernal condor]

you do TM then eq then sync

you should do eq then tm then sync

[pastel bone]

yeah

im gonna try that

[vernal condor]

So the sync has SEUN, not eq

[glossy token]

syper syncer also seems p huge to not have gridded

[pastel bone]

but I just maxed out his grid since i have him 5/5 so I added super syncer 9 on him, let me check rq if that can make me reach 1m

[vernal condor]

also on blue, grid the tile that lowers defenses by 2 on the first sync

(very top left tile)

[vernal condor]

oh you gave him +10e ?

[pastel bone]

ye

[vernal condor]

do this then

one more sync node is more damage

[pastel bone]

let me check first

with this

I don't think I need that

but I will change it later

[vernal condor]

i mean the more damage the better

[cloud timber]

yeah that's what i'd have on for 10e

[glossy token]

ok so hypothetically. if im considering rolling for a1 on skyla

[cedar cloak]

@fluid anvil oh ya forgot to ask, did your cynthia run picked the 4/5 grid? or without

[glossy token]

currently i have vigi, mgr2, and sp3 (rolled from trying to get hs1 on her previously)

which would a1 (or hs1) be best to overwrite here, and am i wrong in feeling like i Have to keep the sp3?

[pastel bone]

We good

[fluid anvil]

without

[dry whale]

Something is off with the calc.

If I understand this correctly, 3.93m should have been my cap yet I just did 3.97m on a screwed up run.

I messed up the oppening and Zapdos dealt way less than he should have , assuming Crit it would have pushed me to the 4million

[pastel bone]

Hnm

[vernal condor]

it probably doesnt account for skill gear passives?

[pastel bone]

Ok for lance, who can I use? I know ofc I can use NC Nate

Any other suggestions?

I do have variety lance for dragon debuff but I doubt that'll work

[dry whale]

I don't think so I gave all the info. Perhaps it did not account for Zapdos syncing second?

[lusty galleon]

or just getting damage rolls? lol

the image I put there was

"if you did the other order, you would've gotten this value assuming you got the same damage roll"

all the possible damage rolls are there

the maximum damage possible is over 4M, but... getting the correct rolls is the problem

[cloud timber]

oleana or aaron for sync cd

[pastel bone]

how does aaron have sync cooldown?

[cloud timber]

defend order

[glossy token]

+pins

[wispy pagoda]

See below on how to check channel pins!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/957144362624634931/1214245497754091570/Pin.mp4?ex=65f8693e&is=65e5f43e&hm=b9d9e7a1a428377ebb0ef122514359d2405dd3f4e0775c17f2146eb06ca90a67&

[cloud timber]

max defenses defend order has no animation

[dry whale]

Ah ok, so I misinterpreted it. Ok then , 4 million is possible then. We got a few days , I'm sure I can get a run in eventually.

[pastel bone]

you have grid?

[cloud timber]

idk if you need catalyst

[glossy token]

aaron doesnt need grid to enable; oleana needs 5/5

grid def helps tho

[cloud timber]

full bracing infliction saves an important animation if you have 3/5

[pastel bone]

i have oleana at 3/5

[cloud timber]

supposedly skipping twofer is actually better than using it

[pastel bone]

also not exr

[glossy token]

oh really??

[cloud timber]

if she was exr she'd be the better pick

[pastel bone]

yeah fs

[pastel bone]

i think the last exr for support I gave is to nc hop

so it'll take some time to collect some support roll cake coins

[cloud timber]

i don't have her at all so i have no way of personally confirming

[pastel bone]

oh thought you did have oleana lol

[cloud timber]

zambro is good at the game though

[pastel bone]

how'd you do lance super spar? you had arc lance?

[vernal condor]

elek said 3/5 is enough bcs you have mgb + pep rally 2

on oleana

[lusty galleon]

using the min-max calculations, assuming you do the same as in the video but use SEUN for Sync and then full B Move

the minimum damage is 3 798 347 while the max is 4 220 386

[cloud timber]

didn't grind very much but this was decently lucky

[pastel bone]

hmm

[glossy token]

good news mael i was recording

[pastel bone]

im thinking of whether to pull for arc lance or not

idk though if I'll get him though,

[glossy token]

arguably i maybe couldve done spark then wc but i didnt want to risk spark taking more than 5s

[pastel bone]

I feel like there's a way to get 1M with the variety lance

[devout pelican]

At one point, DC is just rng where you hope you roll high when Crit is no longer a factor. For example, Geeta

[cloud timber]

kit-wise he's not super important to have, helps a lot for dragon dcs but not a ton outside of it

compared to the other arc suits

[pastel bone]

true

i mean he does have t-wave and hyper beam to lower dragon debuff

[cloud timber]

30% para at 3/5 if we're still talking arc lance

[devout pelican]

I'm certain you guys are talking about different Lance

[cloud timber]

v lance doesn't get to use his para for ranked

and neither does arc lance

[glossy token]

out of curiosity

is anyone working on any sort of animation length resource

ive been tossing the idea back and forth for a bit but i also have no time and my life is falling apart lmao

i somewhat want to know if i shouldve gone for the spark or not but also maybe its better not to know dfkhjhfgk

[pastel bone]

I was talking about dragonair lance lol

don't have arc lance yet

idk if I want to get him or not tbh

[vernal condor]

nope lol

animation length depends on a lot of things and the main one is the device you use

[glossy token]

so we dont have a standard reference for like

how long the base animation for tackle takes wrt the dc timer?

[pastel bone]

guess I'll check yt for lance super spar

[vernal condor]

there are clears in the doc for lance

[vernal condor]

nope

i know failed sing is somewhere between 1 and 2 seconds (especially depending on if you miss or not), but that's about it

and I know from experience Red TM is longer than 5 seconds

[glossy token]

lmao

alr

the 667 is submitted o7

[vernal condor]

ill check that tomorrow

[glossy token]

.... wait no now im doubting if i remembered to update skyla's ls

[pastel bone]

doesn't seem I can use those

atm

[glossy token]

i didnt 😭

[vernal condor]

rip

isok resubmit lul

[glossy token]

reopening the tab lmao

ok

i have offered a scrub-500k+ for the weenies among us

i have done my duty o7

now for ex elesa ebe time

[dry whale]

@thin wren @civic island That's 4 million.

[cedar cloak]

dang gg

[pastel bone]

Hmm

Need options

[dry whale]

Do you have NC Bianca?

[pastel bone]

Yeah

[dry whale]

What is your current best score?

[pastel bone]

Haven't done it yet

Just starting

[lusty galleon]

there is a way to get a higher score

[latent plover]

For Lance, either Aaron or EX R Oleana are best, cause their spam isn't status or interference

[lusty galleon]

or well, "higher damage rolls"

but is HELL to get it haha

[dry whale]

You can hit 1.3 ish with Lodge N and NC Bianca with NC Nate.

[pastel bone]

What does Lodge N do?

[lusty galleon]

so, this run has Head Start on Blue because I don't have cookies for MG2... but:

• Reset for 3 paralysis (I only got 2)
• Reset for getting +2 evasion from the Relic Song on Rosa (1 in 7)
• Aqua Tail is very likely to miss, I got 4 misses in total

[dry whale]

Yeah, the most optimal opening has to have Lapras miss the sing so Zapdos can buff turn one. Then he has to hit the triple paralysis and the Mind games debuff. I was resting way to long just to get the triple paralysis not to mention needing it to trigger minds games.

Then there is needing to crit and damage rolls, that's not worth the trouble especially when it will never reach Tapu Koko

[lusty galleon]

is up there haha

is more about using Rosa for evasion, also granting +2 SMUNs, making BThunderbolt hit harder

[cloud timber]

same as aaron but calm mind has 2 bars and 30% free move next and less animations

while providing unova bonus for circle

oh there is charging infliction 1 too

i haven't used him but that's what i can gather

[pastel bone]

I'll check it out later

[cloud timber]

maybe you don't bother with twofer then

[feral hamlet]

How do I double my score lol?

[dry whale]

#1255888121648644197 message

That's roughly the score your looking for. Probably a little less

[pastel bone]

I was gonna ask if exr NC Hop works too

With NC Nate and NC bianca

[dry whale]

No , you want Bianca because she will buff evasion and lower defense plus the Unova Circles

[thin wren]

now that's something more expected.2nd base striker to get 4 mil right?

thx btw

[latent plover]

How Hop gonna help? It's a dragon weak stage

[paper anchor]

@civic island Did you record this, cause this is insane. I struggle so much with lance. I have the exact same comp and move levels. Great work.

[civic island]

Yep, I recorded the Dragon one, others were already on the doc
Check the super sparring tab

[paper anchor]

I’m so bad at mobile discord, forgive me, but where do I find that?

[civic island]

Tap on the channel name -> Settings -> Pinned
The tap on the first link (Damage Challenge Clears Sheet)

Pinned messages are moved in setting now

[paper anchor]

Wow. I had no idea this even existed. Thank you so much.

God mobile discord is so needlessly convoluted now.

[crisp lily]

Is barry3/5 or elio3/5 better for dmg chal?

[civic island]

It really depends on your comp
If you already have a paralyzer, then you can bring a sing spammer
If not, barry is the reliable one

[crisp lily]

How are they diff? Starting to want to invest in dmg chall units

[civic island]

Check this #1255888121648644197 message

[cloud timber]

barry can animation cancel on his own with stun spore, elio needs some other status first

which is always para unless you want burn/poison for multipliers

[crisp lily]

Doew barry require 3/5?

[cloud timber]

yeah

needs it for charging infliction

[delicate junco]

Managed to squeeze blood from the stone

there's something amusing about my Hapu team coming to a very simillar damage line to diantha and anni raihan

either something went amaingly right with hapu or my damage in the other 2 could be vastly improved

[crisp lily]

Whos the best rlectric dps for dmg chall thats nor pikachu?

[delicate junco]

You got a hau?

[cloud timber]

ss hau is even better than ash/sst red

check first link in the pins

list of clears with a bunch of unique compositions

[crisp lily]

Ooh

Cause im thiming who to pick for pokefair select

Would probably pick only 1 unit from the 3 banners

[civic island]

Take in account investment
Not many of yhose will help you at 1/5

[plush palm]

depends on your current roster, preferences, needs and candy supply

[pallid girder]

The unit that can help you 1M at 1/5 is either few mf striker in 3v3 ((like NC Marnie) or a zone setter to help good genpool 5/5 striker (like SS Cyrus).

[plush palm]

if you want a general DC unit smth like redlax or sc steven from costume select is much better than any on type unit imo

or chase

there will always be more DC but one of those 3 will probably always be helpful here

theres also gloria alt that can do multiple types i guess

[stoic crest]

What is the best option of this? I have been considering using candy on blue and the rats if that matters. Please ping me

[plush palm]

sst red wants 3/5

idk about ash

[stoic crest]

What would I want with red?

[plush palm]

sc steven if you have him

he really wants sc steven to set up cakewalk

ash might be better if you dont have him

idk about the alternative to him

[stoic crest]

I have steven

[plush palm]

hit 2.2-2.3m w/
1/5 sc steven / 3/5 exr sst red / ex elio

Ive seen people hit 3m+ w/ ash comps

[feral hamlet]

I tried an Ash attempt and he wasn't good. I only got like 600k with him

[plush palm]

3/5 ash?

he's super busted at max investment apparently

[feral hamlet]

2/5

[plush palm]

yeah you def need 3/5 for that 4m clear

[feral hamlet]

I just want 1m

[plush palm]

huh he gets no sync multipliers below 3/5

do you have sc steven

[cedar cloak]

Dang.. Top20 at 12.9m+ now. I guess by tomorrow it will be 13.5m or so ☠️

[thin wren]

the latter

[delicate junco]

Well without zones i cant really push the envelope much more

[feral hamlet]

Yeah. Just tried a run with sc Steven Elio and Ash. Impressively terrible

[pallid girder]

Ash + et setter + spammer can hit 1M ig. Just try let his bmove hit it in the end since he has literally no multiplier about it in grid.

[plush palm]

caked sst red? I can record my 2m clear after I take a shower if you want

[feral hamlet]

My sst red is better. Got him 3/5 EXR

[plush palm]

yeah he should def be hitting 2m+ then

[feral hamlet]

I only hit 900k though

[plush palm]

gonna record later then

[acoustic heath]

Who is better, Steven or Red Snorlax

[cloud timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kbdL6yBjPQ

[thin wren]

send your comps

f2p only comps hit 1.8 mil in dcr

[pallid girder]

They have their pro and cons. In general SC Steven is better when your striker needs atk and spe debuff for multiplier but Redlax is used more when your striker doesn't need those from what I've seen.

[acoustic heath]

Thanks for the update. I got Steven since he was cheaper for the free roll pick

[stoic crest]

So use sst red with Steven and something like ello? Or does meleotta work?

[pallid girder]

Nope. NC Rosa can't reliably buff atk to +6 right?
Using Elio is for that, bc SST Red's TM grants team gradual healing and that's not good in dc.

[thin wren]

are you asking for sstr specifically or the best comp to get high score in elec

use elio sstr and steven if sstr is your only option @stoic crest

[feral hamlet]

Man, I wish my game ran that well. Gonna complain to DeNA again

[delicate junco]

Fairy: gardiantha ex 3/5 Barrose ex 3/5, anni n ex 3/5

Dragon: ss morty 1/5, anni raihan ex 3/5, aaron 1/5

Ground: Hapu ex 5/5, redlax 2/5, elio 5/5

@thin wren

[thin wren]

he buffs red and sing spams. You don't want to click red's tm in dc so sstr needs someone to buff him

[acoustic heath]

Hope they bring back the NC Blue&Red

[plush palm]

was gonna record a sc steven sst red clear but i guess you dont need it

[stoic crest]

I just want a million honestly and I'm happy.

[thin wren]

pretty sure valery mawile scores more than gardiantha. Also frees up a slot for egg sylveon to have fairy zone

[thin wren]

oh your units are only 1/5?

[delicate junco]

Cool i have none of those

[thin wren]

all of those are free

[delicate junco]

Yeah and?

Dont got them

[thin wren]

bp valery and mawile is a bp unit

[pallid girder]

NC Blue and NC Red will rerun in the next new year presumably Dena followed what they did last 2 yrs.

[thin wren]

so you should be able to get her to 3/5 at least

[plush palm]

i wouldnt call ex bp valerie accessible despite being f2p

[delicate junco]

....

[plush palm]

bp strikers tend to be near the bottom of peoples ex priorities

[thin wren]

ex is pretty accessible imo

@delicate junco how many bp vouchers do you have

[feral hamlet]

Is it the same strat? Cakewalk?

[delicate junco]

0

[stoic crest]

Yeah but I have been thinking about candying rats for ages since I use them for like everything so I'm okay with candying a rat.

[plush palm]

basically yeah. tho throw in 2 thundershocks before his sync to lower speed to -6

[thin wren]

oh then candy sstr and go elio sstr and nc blue@stoic crest

[plush palm]

ash is the big nuke

[feral hamlet]

Really no B move though?

[thin wren]

sstr b move is slow

[plush palm]

sc steven b move lowers to -6 but the damn bird has x speed all

[thin wren]

not worth it for high scores

[cloud timber]

need as many syncs as possible first before you think about using b move

sstr's at least

[thin wren]

I wish that bird didn't have x speed all...

[stoic crest]

Do we have grids? I assume sync with blue first then red?

Ignore ello sync I assume

[thin wren]

hau could probably hit 6 mil if not for the damn extra web

[cloud timber]

i used elio sync

grids are at the end of my video

[thin wren]

are your units caked btw

[stoic crest]

Red and blue are

[thin wren]

blue>elio>then red only

[cloud timber]

elio first to buff blue's power

[thin wren]

@cloud timber btw has hau reached 6 mil yet

[cloud timber]

i don't keep track

[thin wren]

oh right he's on type here

my poma has been lagging a bit on the ranked screen for some reason

[stoic crest]

Spam sing I assume?

[cloud timber]

yea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kbdL6yBjPQ

[stoic crest]

Thanks I was just going to ask about the video

[cloud timber]

got you

[vagrant ivy]

the numbers dont match up tho

ingame it says only 2.22m for some reason

but final score is 2.3m

[cloud timber]

it doesn't update aoe damage accurately every time

sometimes it only takes into account one of the targets but it updates properly on the next turn or the end screen if there is none

[feral hamlet]

I only got two syncs in. B move to close the gap but still didn't beat my top score

[vagrant ivy]

people with OCD seeing that score:

[cloud timber]

resetting for elio mpr for +6 attack helps a lot but it is a 20% chance

[vagrant ivy]

3/5 sst red loses to 2/5 ss hau if you don't have nc blue from what i've tried

[copper otter]

IT'S OVER 900000!

[thin wren]

Who all were in the ss hau camp btw

I feel like this war has been there since the beginning of dc

[pallid girder]

Do you think SS Hau can 6M in the end?

[copper otter]

he's barely able to get 5.2 mil

[thin wren]

Well last night he reached 5.5 mil

[copper otter]

skill gear issue

[thin wren]

so maybe with rolls as good as batman's Ash run

[pallid girder]

The thing about SS Hau is idk does the current highest score now crit all or not.

[open grotto]

are skill gears better than normal type gears?

[thin wren]

Yes

[plush palm]

way better

[pallid girder]

If he missed even just 1 crit it means his dmg has room to improve.

[feral hamlet]

Yeah no, I can't get more than that with this strat. I can't get more than 2 syncs in

[plush palm]

the extra stats and 5% sync dmg seems small but it can push you over the 1m mark

[plush palm]

https://youtu.be/Yq0jV_30LjU?si=wurHbznfP8796TYt

[stoic crest]

Blue doesn't have to be 3/5 does he?

[cloud timber]

if you have sc steven he's definitely preferred, i don't

[thin wren]

overall skill gears can give+100 stats and +45% additive multipliers

[plush palm]

it aint additive iirc?

multiplicative is better than additive

[cloud timber]

looks much more accessible and easier than what i did, used 2 deluxe skills on my sides

and needed very good rng

[plush palm]

I have no deluxe cookies left for steven and elio

required some impatient procs and a full para to hit 2.3m but should still be getting 2m w/o it

[open grotto]

seems a bit out of reach for me right now, 20 5* cards for a unchange pin and need like probably 4 per equip so a total of 240 5* cards 😦

[thin wren]

huh

[open grotto]

so keep using sing instead of using other sync pairs to attack?

[cloud timber]

impatient might have helped if i ran it

[thin wren]

don't buy the gear equips. Events give them for free

[plush palm]

very slightly

[pallid girder]

You don't need to roll perfect skill gears. Just +80 atk/spatk can alr improve you score.

[cloud timber]

you can only apply 2 ever pins per gear anyway

and you don't need any at all

[pallid girder]

I don't everpin if I'm just aiming for 1 theme & +80 atk/spatk

[feral hamlet]

This doesn't play

[thin wren]

simply get good rolls something

[plush palm]

whoops try again

sorry

[thin wren]

I usually ever pin themes

[plush palm]

https://youtu.be/Yq0jV_30LjU?si=6mxtoM1cXUJbOe77

[feral hamlet]

Oh a sc Steven run

[thin wren]

for ice 3v3, who will be the optimal zoner for nc red?

irida iirc has forced hail on ice zone

oh wait nc red has hail sync multipliers

[plush palm]

grusha or the egg glaceon?

[thin wren]

nvm it's gonna be irida

just that there will probably be less syncs

[plush palm]

grusha has impervious

which might matter or might not

[thin wren]

eh

[plush palm]

i havent checked all of the DC rounds

[thin wren]

simply don't get stat dropped smth

[plush palm]

then again my irida is also 1/5

shes staying at 1/5 forever i think

[pallid girder]

Idk. It's another will 1 or even 2 more sync outdmg 1.5 more dmg every syncs but less sync moment.

[plush palm]

no grusha?

[pallid girder]

Considering SS Hilda didn't use burn 3 in the end I think maybe Hail will NOT be the answer.

[cloud timber]

ss lysandre needed burn 3 though

i don't have irida or nc red or grusha so i can't actually have meaningful input there

[pallid girder]

NC Red is more like SS Hilda when they both have other sync multipliers way stronger than the burn/hail one so they don't really need to do burn/hail.

[thin wren]

she still had someone burnt and her boost was less than nc red

iirc irida grants a special damage boost when hail is up

[cloud timber]

yeah nobody is as reliant on slow stuff like burn as ss lysandre is while still managing a decent showing

[pallid girder]

No sync move tho. Regular move only.

My guess is NC Red's top score is Chase + Melony. No zone.

[thin wren]

that's a 30% damage loss, idk

[crude sandal]

Red loses a lot without Irida

[feral hamlet]

@plush palm I messed up a bit but still got over 1M. I can settle for this. Thanks!

[pallid girder]

Also with Irida you can't use sing spam. Only para spam which is even slower.

[thin wren]

maybe the 50% difference can be made up with 1 more sync

[stoic crest]

So this is what I want? And ignore red TM?

[thin wren]

ignore red tm yes

[stoic crest]

Do I use the electric terrain?

[thin wren]

is red caked?

[warped gulch]

That is 1/5 Red

Do you have Elesa or Hau EX ?

[stoic crest]

Oh I was going to use candy on him

Yes red is caked

[thin wren]

they said that they wanted to candy a rat for a while anyways

[pallid girder]

It's possible it's 2 more, since hail + no sing spam really hurt.

[civic island]

Just hope irida gets supp exr

[stoic crest]

So I'm guessing Steven powers up the rat, the rat dynamax to put on paralysis, and elio just use TM to power up powers and sings?

[thin wren]

field would also be nice

[thin wren]

yes

[crude sandal]

Field is the best for her and also canonical

[thin wren]

I think they will go sprint adaman and field irida

[civic island]

Yeah, that will simplift my 1/5 irida runs on LG
But DC wise supp would be awesome

[thin wren]

time and space

wish adaman got strike

[civic island]

That will wreck grass triple

[pallid girder]

No chance I feel.

[plush palm]

is exing elio an option? you probably wont be hitting 2m w/o it

[thin wren]

could adaman get 6 mim with strike exr?

[pallid girder]

All tech striker has either only 1 more sync multiplier in grid or 2 but is the most annoying to setup.

[warped gulch]

Adaman has one of the most simplistic multiplier

[thin wren]

Unless your name is adaman

[warped gulch]

With Striker oh boy

[pallid girder]

Adaman has 2 in grid and is some of the easiest multiplier to setup.

[thin wren]

adaman has dahlia level nuke excluding seun right?

[warped gulch]

He also (lovely) sure crit

[warped gulch]

Dahlia has both SEUN and Rain

[thin wren]

and no physical version of chase is there....

[crisp lily]

Sorry to bother but if you were to pick one pokefair who would it be? These are the 5*s i have

[thin wren]

hmmm, what are the 6 mik nukers so far?

the highest rdc people said that their cynthia got 5.9 mil

hmmm nvm maybe adaman won't get 6 mil

[warped gulch]

Adaman sadly cant get both SEUN and GT

[thin wren]

but 5.5 mil like ss hau should be possible

[warped gulch]

Unless new pair can do that

[thin wren]

dahlia also had 1.2x from Chase

[warped gulch]

Dahlia need confusion which make her Sync way slower

Adaman should be able to get 1 more Sync than Dahlia

[thin wren]

Yes but dahlia had like 1.7x more multipliers

and sing spam

[civic island]

Give vKris strike exr

[umbral sleet]

Conditions:

1: 3* Min Rarity | All Pairs (Limited Included) | Supereffective ↑ Next | Grass Terrain‎

[warped gulch]

So sad

[pallid girder]

Just see they troll us and give us field Adaman and sprint Irida (x)

[thin wren]

Field adaman would be nice for dc

[warped gulch]

Now i remember about SS Kris

They troll her

• SS Ethan: Field
• SS Lyra: Field
• SS Kris: Sprint ?

[pallid girder]

The Galartrio aren't all sprint is also a surprise.

[thin wren]

sprint is tied for best option tbf

[civic island]

After Archie/Maxie shaft I can tolerate anything

[warped gulch]

I dont want to see another Striker/Sprint tbh

[thin wren]

they have been giving more tech strike combos recently at least

[stoic crest]

Well I got 800k

Guess that's good enough

Which I guess is about right for 3/5 red, Steven, and ellio?

It seems sucky, I think redlax is better

[warped gulch]

800k is low

Lower than f2p base Hau too

[pallid girder]

That team can do 2M, no?

[warped gulch]

[teal haven]

realizing the only electric 6ex pairs I have are sonya and ncblue

...yall Im cooked

[sacred badger]

nc blue can probably hit 1m....

[thin wren]

nc blue gets 1.5 mil

[sacred badger]

by himself...

[thin wren]

if he's caked

[stoic crest]

Then what am I supposed to do?

[teal haven]

oh?

[stoic crest]

I don't get it

[warped gulch]

Did you see the video ?

[stoic crest]

And videos don't help I need like written instructions.....

[warped gulch]

[stoic crest]

I could watch it 50 times and I wouldn't comprehend anything. Its too fast

[pallid girder]

Won't video more clear than a wall of texts?

[warped gulch]

You can, you know slow the video

[stoic crest]

I understand text better

[boreal warren]

if on yt you can .25 it

[stoic crest]

And it doesn't crash my phone

I sync with ellio

Then just sync with rat on center target.

[warped gulch]

Did you use SC Steven B Move ?

[stoic crest]

yup 3 times

[warped gulch]

Thundershock?

[stoic crest]

No I thought I ignored the rat

Outside of sync

And dynamax

[warped gulch]

You need to use Thundershock 2 times to debuff speed

What about grid

[civic island]

800k is still low even for -4 speed kekwok

Did you removed troublemaker from elio?

[warped gulch]

Yeah, rn i think about grid

[warped gulch]

Elio’s Lucky skill isn’t Troublemaker right ?

[stoic crest]

Oh the lucky skill is troublemaker I never knew I gave him that

[boreal warren]

just messing around but I think I got 5 ash sync in one electric terrain 💀

[stoic crest]

What do I give him to make it go away?

[warped gulch]

Give anything

Just drop it

No lucky skill is better than having Troublemaker

[pallid girder]

Burn immunity is a good toss away bc random burn is annoying.

[stoic crest]

Got that fixed

So for Steven, when do I use his moves to power up red?

And dynamax first right? Before I do any sing

[cloud timber]

without cs2, though still needed sst red for max countdown and max conductivity

[warped gulch]

Max Move -> Elio’s Tm-> Steven’s tackle

Reset for Elio’s Tm mpr

[cloud timber]

nc blue as damage dealer can 2m

[warped gulch]

For steven, save SEUN for Red’s 4th and 5th Sync is the safest

[boreal warren]

btw should you use ash trainer move on b move or sync

[crude sandal]

Sync

[civic island]

Sync

[stoic crest]

I thought you never use it?

[boreal warren]

ty

[warped gulch]

SEUN ? Why you dont want to use it tho

[stoic crest]

Do I ever set terrain outside of sync?

[warped gulch]

No, his Field cake already do it

[crude sandal]

Grass 3v3 will be close between Adaman and Mix Red right?

[stoic crest]

I guess this is good?

Considering no sprint role I'm short a sync 😕

And no purple cookies

[warped gulch]

That is …… still low

And what sprint come from that team ?

[boreal warren]

better now

[cloud timber]

there's no sprint role on that team, maybe they didn't grid impatient

[warped gulch]

You dont need impatient

[civic island]

And probably scSonia also

[warped gulch]

For 1/5 SC Steven

I did that run with low rng as much as i can

[cloud timber]

might have been looking at and misinterpreting that anyway

[warped gulch]

https://youtu.be/KfGQLpnnSh0?si=RC__eoj-poN75Uue

No Steven’s mpr, no impatient, no para luck

But Elio’s Passive still anoying

[crude sandal]

Can you try Pinch Push with Ash?

[stoic crest]

I got a million

[warped gulch]

Me with 0/5 Ash

[crude sandal]

Oh you don't have him

Sorry

[civic island]

Ash is too bulky for that
Dmg guards also doesnt help

[crude sandal]

Facade can kinda help

[boreal warren]

you would need lances pikachu

[civic island]

Had him frist target in my runs but never went to 50%

Maybe w all crits

[stoic crest]

Wait I don't use both Steven TM?

Just the top one not the bottom?

[warped gulch]

I didn’t touch Steven’s Tm like at all

[crude sandal]

Did you hold back on skill gear?

[warped gulch]

Only his SEUN

[civic island]

Nope but I would loose too much on sync dmg w/o

[feral hamlet]

Honestly for mine, since I ran the same team, I used the top one for the sync after Red's first sync. I got one back but forgot to use it. I used the bottom one for a b move at the last second

[boreal warren]

dang if I had enough to increase grid cap I could use another tm

[unique abyss]

Damn, 50 ranks down in one day, I won't make it (probably )

[stoic crest]

Ah that's probably what I'm missing. I'll have to try another run and see if it gets better. I'm just glad I got a million which is so hard to get, I only got that one other time with champion silver. Otherwise I'm lucky to get above 300k most times.

[civic island]

Ye the last days rushing, I lost 20 positions hope to stay on top 100
~~ I accidentally resetted one extra round so i gave up on improving ~~

[long silo]

Can I maintain top 500

[stoic crest]

Thank you everyone for the help

[boreal warren]

more dmg

[unique abyss]

you are in much better position than me

[long silo]

Hopefully we both make it

[crude sandal]

Yeah, Pinch Push won't work at all

[boreal warren]

somehow I had supreme entry on ash the entire time since I got him and I never knew

thought I had cs2 on almost everyone I use to attack💀

[coarse kayak]

are these actually valid scores for Super Sparring?

most of them seem to be copy pasted over from the marnie fairy run, and the videos lead to marnie too

i got 3m on my marnie run but i can only get 2m on cynthia with the same rotation

so i wonder if the defense stats are different for cynthia

[teal haven]

Idk if I give a shit enough to go for the ~80k I missed in crits

[brisk shale]

i know cynthia has x speed and marnie has x defense

and that cynthia does more damage which messed with my unscathed on my gears
but i think the defenses are equal

[coarse kayak]

critting should bypass stat buffs, and gladion hits on the special side anyway so that should be fine

[teal haven]

https://youtu.be/-dc7d7NJn0Y?feature=shared

Idk if this is a repost

But

[coarse kayak]

its just weird that all the marnie runs were transferred over to cynthia when their defensive stats seem wildly different

[boreal warren]

some of them don’t work

[delicate junco]

hmmm

[boreal warren]

can’t say it for all of them though

[coarse kayak]

yea, cynthia might have longer attack animations so i had to shuffle my moves around a bit to fit them in

[delicate junco]

still thinking i can improve my fairy damage but i dont know what to do

[boreal warren]

because of the speed and animations yea

[delicate junco]

diantha loves devestation nd noble roar spam has been my best result so far

[coarse kayak]

but i dont think 5 mill is possible on cynthia but the excel sheet is saying it is while linking to marnies run

[jolly violet]

Top 1 and 2 said they have 6M+

[coarse kayak]

oh i mean

if doing the same run

the way the marnie video did it

6m runs probably did different rotations

[pastel bone]

Def and sp def drop

Was thinking that

[boreal warren]

gear lacking so bad

[cloud timber]

leaves you with nothing to run down sync cd

[warped gulch]

You can all in B Move tho

I used SC Steven for it

[vagrant ivy]

with crits he might see 1.5m but not gonna sweat for that

improved my route by b moving after 3 syncs rather than at start

ss hau remains 2/5 for now

[cloud timber]

there's definitely successful comps without animation cancels but just having debuffs alone isn't a good enough reason to skip it

sc steven has rebuff and seun

[pastel bone]

Mine is 1/5

[cloud timber]

just does way more

[pastel bone]

I'm going to go for him on the scout though

Once I have cash for next week, depends how much I have though

[warped gulch]

1/5 in enough

[pastel bone]

But super sparring will send in 2 resets so not enough time

[warped gulch]

You only need 2 SEUN for 2 B Move

[pastel bone]

End*

[warped gulch]

And 2 Tm for +10 PMUN on 2nd B Move

You dont need 2/5 SC Steven

https://youtu.be/viIuncvSTAk?si=NwmS4MQfsN0SVSVl

And remember my Bianca is 2/5 no EXR, so with it score can go way higher

[pallid girder]

It's weird that no one here really try hard on SS Hau.
All I see is Ash, SST Red, og Elesa for f2p comp and some funny support nuke meme lol.

[vagrant ivy]

wdym the top score is literally ss hau

[thin wren]

in a few resets it will be colress time

[vagrant ivy]

what do you estimate his score at

[thin wren]

5.5 mil on ss hau isn't easy

also more people usually like to push the weaker options

and I don't think ss hau is that popular in general

[vagrant ivy]

well for me he’s the best option

[thin wren]

I am gonna hope it's 2.5 mil because it would be hilarious

[vagrant ivy]

chat what if I rotate between b gigaton hammer and twave

[boreal warren]

don’t have hau or I would

[cloud timber]

you can get away with sst red for electric everything so there's little reason for most people to get ss hau though idr the release dates or anything

but post sstr release nobody would actively want him(?)

outside of specifically this

[civic island]

Cynthia overwhelming score almost made me forget abt my beloved fRoxanne

[cloud timber]

nice

[ivory kestrel]

For SS Hau users… do you bother with the Fairy zone and Whimsical sync?

[vagrant ivy]

ss hau ran in a triple feature sometime earlier this year

forgot what it was for tho

[pallid girder]

He needs that tile to compete with Ash.

[long silo]

EXR Upgrade, alongside SS Hilbert and Anni Skyla

All got Strike EXR

[vagrant ivy]

thanks

[vapid kernel]

Hmm i wanna 3/5 my roxanne for stuff like this, worth?

[warped gulch]

3/5 her for HSE

[pallid girder]

Do you have ArcCynthia?

[vapid kernel]

No

[pallid girder]

FRoxanne is the send best ground dd and just a bit behind ArcCynthia so if you don't have ArcCynthia you should invest in her.

[fluid anvil]

old news already, we got triple 6M now

[fluid anvil]

"just a bit behind" ?

[inland urchin]

Finally 3m lol

[ivory kestrel]

didnt bother with Fairy Zone in this run

[civic island]

Ehh quite a bit behind but it's more cynthia being gamebreaking in that matter
But still, you gan grab her for just 3K during seasonal scouts

[civic island]

If you don't have Cynthia, then sure, FRoxanne is really good
I invested her for BR/LG and she was my best ground unit for a while ofc

[thin wren]

ss hau 6 mil when

just 500k more

and there will be 4 6 mil club members

[true locust]

Cynthia did 6m+ long ago🤣

Same gladion way over 6m

[thin wren]

we have 3 6 mil club members rm

*rn

Cynthia, ss glad and dahlia

[fluid anvil]

Kinnoh !

[thin wren]

Ss hau is close

[civic island]

Also she's really cool
Uploaded the run
https://youtu.be/e5bAfX_XbH4

[thin wren]

We can have 2 alola 6 mil soon hopefully

[pallid girder]

Btw only 1 4M club in 3v1.
NC Hop getting support exr makes him possible to get in when fighting 3v1 comes back tho.

[thin wren]

who got 4 mil in 3v1?

[cedar cloak]

The 6m+ was with sand blaster 4 lucky skill on her?

[true locust]

I did sp3

[pallid girder]

ArcLance.

[true locust]

Others 2 who score 6m+ one sure sand blaster

Second don’t now but prob too

[civic island]

How much the difference?
So Sand Blaster 4 was really broken or was just a coincidence?

[true locust]

For me now all on cynthia skill is broken

Just random give me bonus or not🤣

[civic island]

[true locust]

Sp3 boost b move

Yes have runs no bonus

Have run 1 sync bonus rest no

Sand blast is 10% more but b move then got zero

So hard tell wat is better

Prob score will be realy simmilar. Or close since you still have rolls

So never check it corect any way

[fluid anvil]

I used WW3 for 6.17M

[fluid anvil]

who ?

[jaunty stratus]

@long silo you have a video of your elec clear right?

[true locust]

Sp3 good and ww3

[jolly violet]

Looks like your luck finally match your godlike gears

[true locust]

Luck is part off the game🤣

[cedar cloak]

So true 😭 Btw for dragon stage, is it possible to get 900k+ dmg on last sync with Dragonite? So far the sync dmg for 900k+ only works on 2nd sync but not on the last one. The highest I've seen was almost 800k but Idk if 900k+ is possible or not under this condition. If it's doable to hit 900k+ dmg, then I will spam reset for that rng haha

[true locust]

I got 999k second 3 i got maks 941k

[ivory kestrel]

Wow, got a bit lucky with the para procs, top 17 baby! Btw, CS2 for SS Hau

[ivory kestrel]

Was thinking, since i wasnt syncing with Melony, better if i replace her with NC Rosa, and run 2x potions at start to kill turns

[true locust]

I always sync whit melony

[cloud timber]

same

[ivory kestrel]

I’ll try if i can get a higher score with Melony syncing

[true locust]

You need melony hau nc blue and hau on zone sync

Why you dont have fairy for sync? Boost

[pallid girder]

He's testing with no fairy zone multiplier build.

[ivory kestrel]

Yeah, i had better success with no fairy zone runs

[true locust]

Fairy zone need for boost damage

You can run mind games on nc blue too

[ivory kestrel]

I tried just now: Melony comp without Fairy Zone, and Melony comp with Fairy Zone… i dont know if im doing something wrong, but even if i get to be lucky and sneak in one more sync, i highly doubt it would even be close to my 4.29M high score earlier.

[zenith jolt]

So anyone have any clue for me so I can upgrade this like about 3.7M ?

[true locust]

Its french?

[zenith jolt]

It is

[true locust]

Lucas have exr?

[zenith jolt]

Yeah

[true locust]

Look similar

[thin wren]

ss glad is 1. Hopefully ss hau soon

[true locust]

Then need maybe better gears

[cedar cloak]

Lucas is better than nc nate in there?

[zenith jolt]

I dread this point

[fluid anvil]

oh that yeah
right now we have 2 Sinnoh with 6M, 1 Alola
0 kanto

[unique abyss]

Damn, 476th rn, that will be it

[true locust]

Since lance b move is 999k and 2 sync is 999k

Some use nate some use lucas

[cedar cloak]

3rd sync is rng? Or need good skill gear

[zenith jolt]

Ok… but how the 3rd sync hit 999k ???

[true locust]

2 sync

[zenith jolt]

Ohh yeah the gears

[true locust]

3 can be 900k+

[cedar cloak]

Ah that makes sense

[true locust]

3 no chance 999k

[thin wren]

another alola that's really close

[cedar cloak]

Without good gears, can you ever even hit 900k on 3rd sync?

[true locust]

Don’t think soo

[zenith jolt]

It’s like sync Lucas then Sync Lance, then sync Lance 999k then sync Lance 900k so B moove 999k ?

[thin wren]

I mean with the highest roll it's possible but...

[true locust]

2 lance sync do 999k

And b move

Not his first

[zenith jolt]

Unbelievable when the 3rd dosen’t have the ultra efficace

[thin wren]

pretty sure resetting for good gears is less rng than resetting for every roll to be max damage

[true locust]

He have super up next one use

So cant be help

[cedar cloak]

Knowing that fact about his 3rd sync.. I'm gonna give up trying on this dragon stage 🤣 I have terrible skill gears

[thin wren]

what are our future 6 mil candidates?

[true locust]

Arc ash🤣

Arc serena haha

[zenith jolt]

But how can a 3rd sync could make the same as a super up one ?

[thin wren]

I meant like pairs in the game

that haven't had their dcs yet

[zenith jolt]

I’ll try having better gears However

[true locust]

2 is 999k if crit for me 3 is 920-950

You get 2 rebuff after 1 sync

So this super up next would be better honeslty for 1 sync

[zenith jolt]

Ok ok I see

You use Oleana or Aaron btw ?

[true locust]

Since you get like 90-100k more

Wat i use is top secret:) parnters

[thin wren]

probably oleana

[true locust]

But lance i use since its easy guess nobody can break 4m if not him😂

[cloud timber]

remaining types esp the triples are not remotely that good

[cedar cloak]

I'm using nate, so it's better to cast his unova circle on Dragonite first sync? Or use it before nate gonna sync first

[zenith jolt]

Hahaha as you said

[true locust]

Nate is saw some was use befor lance sync only

[thin wren]

oleana is the fastest non status sync spammer iirc

[true locust]

But i would use befor his too

[cedar cloak]

Ok noted. Hopefully can hit at least 3.5mil with nate. This dragon stage is hard to score 😭

[zenith jolt]

Yesterday I should’ve take her 4/5 instead of Dahlia

[thin wren]

what does oleana get from 4/5?

[cedar cloak]

Not much but 5/5 is pretty good

[zenith jolt]

I mean her 4/5 to make her 5/5 since I have only 1 tech candy and her 3/5

[true locust]

Oleana is good sync pair but need alot invest on it 5/5 10E then she is good in lg also

[cedar cloak]

Btw @true locust my fairy did 4.4mil with 5/5 penny, 3/5 gladion and 4/5 wally. If i 5/5 wally, do you think I can hit at least 4.6? Or it's better to just 5/5 gladion and use 4/5 wally

[fluid anvil]

none out of the remaining types.
maybe NC Nate can break 5M in dragon 3v3 now, but not sure about 6M

[true locust]

I would recomend not waist stuff . Event is end in less then 24h no fairy hse will be

[pallid girder]

How much can NC Red possibly get?

[cedar cloak]

True but I'm trying to maintain my rank. It's moving too rapidly 😭

[fluid anvil]

4-4.5M

[vagrant ivy]

been a fun dc but I’m afraid it’s the end of the line for top 3k for me

if everything crits on fairy DC I’d still be looking at just 50-60k extra

[true locust]

Its not worth it

[vagrant ivy]

everything already has +100 attack and spA when needed

[true locust]

You need have them all 5/5 and gladion 4/5

[vagrant ivy]

even have SP 3 for the ground DC

[true locust]

Plus extra 10 and 8

High price

[vagrant ivy]

it’s a shortsighted move to invest so heavily for an event that ends so soon

[cedar cloak]

I see

[cedar cloak]

Just a consideration too cuz I'm a huge fan of wally. But ya I'll just save my candy

[vagrant ivy]

from what I’ve seen too many people have invested ss glad or nemona for fairy while I’m stuck with BP valerie

which gives them easy 2m at least even if they don’t do as well in other DC

oh well enough malding for today

[vapid kernel]

Geez

Me with me 600,000 Fall roxanne score

[thin wren]

ss hau is our last current bet for 6 mil huh

@fluid anvil do you think cheren could get 6 mil?

actually what was his st score

[fluid anvil]

Cheren cant, I think he was 1,2-1,4M in 3v1
slow set up, only 1 rebuff, no zone

[cloud timber]

one sync multiplier on grid

exactly one

and it's cakewalk

[vagrant ivy]

how many sync nodes

[cloud timber]

4

looks like you'd need +6e to reach all of them

[thin wren]

4 mil should be easy but 6 mil....

[cloud timber]

very not on par with dahlia or as cynthia

nothing else should be really

[pallid girder]

No one would break Dahila's record ig.

[thin wren]

nothing can replicate ss glad right?

[cloud timber]

yeah ss lysandre was supposed to be closest

[thin wren]

is the gap between strongest aoe no split b move and second strongest aoe no split b move that huge....

[civic island]

He also got that pmun/smun passive

[cloud timber]

yeah cheren is still strong

[thin wren]

if only Lance had ss Steven aoe sync passive mixed into one of his passives

he could easily break 10 mil

[pallid girder]

The remaining tech striker that haven't gotten 3v3 yet is flying and poison

[thin wren]

iirc Lance has THE strongest sync nuke in the game

[thin wren]

How much could roxie get?

doesn't her rebuffer compresses sync spam?

she could afford a seun giver

Iirc roxie has poison zone on sync at 3/5(mine is 1/5 so can't confirm)

[cloud timber]

jacq and ash also hit cap no

[crude sandal]

Roxie might need Geeta IMO

[thin wren]

wdym

jacq was like 3.4 mil

Lance broke 4 mil while status sync spam was nerfed

[thin wren]

doesn't she have extension 5 at base?

[pallid girder]

SS Roxie can do 4M ig. Not sure if she can break 5M.

[civic island]

Just 3 + 2 on grid but its kinda waste for other nodes

[pallid girder]

Oleana applies rebuff while poison 😦

[fluid anvil]

both gladion and Cynthia can potentially break Dahlias score

[thin wren]

how many multipliers does roxie have?

[vagrant ivy]

how much would nc red do in ice 3v3

[pallid girder]

Maybe you can cheat it by para first?

[thin wren]

can't roxie para aoe?

[civic island]

Two on grid, 90% ~~ wwait forgor, checking ~~

[cloud timber]

still 1m on b move

[thin wren]

I am taking about aoe no split

st is limited by the cap

[cloud timber]

and yet you were talking about lance

[fluid anvil]

roxie only has 1 sync mutiplier on grid

[civic island]

Roxoe got only 90% from grid then

[warped gulch]

Dahlia only has 1 in grid too

But she has rebuff, rain, SEUN by herself

[civic island]

Yeah

[thin wren]

I thought your message meant something else initially

[pallid girder]

Like I said, they "balance" tech striker by either only 1 multiplier in grid or 2 but with wacky setup.

[thin wren]

I was wondering if someone could replicate ss glad

[thin wren]

oof

[cloud timber]

but yea idk anything about other aoe bmove nukes

[pallid girder]

SS Roxie has zone and can use rebuff too, but need to find a way to not let opponets get poisoned.

[warped gulch]

SS Roxie doesn’t have rebuff

[thin wren]

her rebuffer has sync spam

[fluid anvil]

roxie can para all 3 opponents with max move

[pallid girder]

I worded it wrong. I mean she can use Oleana as spammer like what doom said.

[fluid anvil]

although that will waste her poison zone ...

[thin wren]

she's still missing the main part of dahlia 6 mil, Chase

[thin wren]

she has extension 5 and poison zone on sync is available on grid

[civic island]

If they'll ever give cakes to old seasonals/sc/variety we may get some interesting ones

[thin wren]

like?

[civic island]

SC Diantha my beloved

[pallid girder]

Oleana doesnt need to use max move turn 1, so they can use their max move back to back before SS Roxie sync ig?

[civic island]

Btw the old Variety eeveelutions are also good candidates

[pallid girder]

Mid battle reset if you dont get para from SS Roxie's max lol.

[civic island]

We'll get figthing 3v3 next month, so maybe we'll see something

[warped gulch]

Also who is a good supp for that team

[thin wren]

doesn't she need def drops and she drops st?

[thin wren]

doesn't Rei only have 150% total?

Bianca is still a busted enabler but idt it will be anything too crazy

[warped gulch]

Do you think Bea can 1m with f2p team ?

[civic island]

She only need buffs for her multipliers
Only her dps is based on debuffs
But idk if we have a fast way to buff both defs and speed

[vagrant ivy]

I’d trust riley more tbh

but won’t be expecting either to 1m

will be close tho

[thin wren]

doesn't riley sync harder

at the cost of more rng

[warped gulch]

Riley need caked

[pallid girder]

Bea has sure crit, so less suffer.

[warped gulch]

Which i dont want to give him

[thin wren]

still f2p

[thin wren]

it's just a little more gambling

[rare apex]

who else is excited for colress to actually be able to actually nuke for once soon?

[civic island]

50% on grid the rest is sprint innate
He got high stats tho

[pallid girder]

I think Riley can do 1M with Red, but not without him.

[warped gulch]

Riley need someone fully buff him

[thin wren]

how much attack?

150% is low by modern standards tbh

[civic island]

500

[thin wren]

oh around nc Nate level?

I think he can get 4 mil?

oh wait bianca rebuffing is only st

uhhhh

[civic island]

How he was doing in single?

[thin wren]

highest I saw was 1.3 mil

[warped gulch]

I dont think i want to click Close combat/Iron Tail 4 times

[pallid girder]

Today I learn he has super syncer.

Oh it's only one time

[sacred badger]

o.o

[cloud timber]

super sync 9 is every time

[pallid girder]

SAD.

[warped gulch]

If he had SEUN every Sync, his ST Fighting Score would be so much higher than 500k rn

[civic island]

[pallid girder]

Btw is ex Dana a good seun setter for a pure f2p team?

[crude sandal]

Not really since she has a counter passive

[sullen zephyr]

i just realized nc red nukes harder than irida

can't wait for ice weak

[civic island]

If you got nothing else, probably
She's the only f2p supp unit that gives SE after all

[sullen zephyr]

you can just not tank with her

[pallid girder]

Like Ex Dana + Colress + self sufficient physical striker.

[civic island]

Bea

[sullen zephyr]

oh right, aoe exists

[civic island]

With some dodge shenanigans can make up for the passive

Looks like a nice f2p team for fighting vs 3

[cloud timber]

everything has aoe moves, reactive passives always matter

yea

dana + colress is a really drastic time loss compared to sonia + melony

[vernal condor]

i think electric is the type with the most entries

[vagrant ivy]

people were waiting to use rats and bird

[normal parcel]

Rets and bird isn't good because you need a spammer

[sullen zephyr]

sonia?

[normal parcel]

1 rat + bird is fine

[rare apex]

one rat and one flying rat + spammer works fine ye

[cloud timber]

para and gauge

and tackle defense crush 9 to debuff

pykuo has used it

[sullen zephyr]

ooh nice, i've never considered sonia

[civic island]

NcBlue+Melony was carrying almost everythig else
Also the high scores they're getting is mostly thank to ncBlue
I don't think we have somethhing barely close to him

[vagrant ivy]

yeah

[sullen zephyr]

but mostly because i use nc blue for smun for special dd

[cloud timber]

seems like a decent standard pick if you lack nc blue

[vagrant ivy]

no NC blue cuts into your score by a lot

[pallid girder]

Chase for special striker is close to NC Blue.

[normal parcel]

NC blue is already staple in some non electric comps, where double electric rebuff is useless

[vagrant ivy]

this was my sub in for NC blue

does he do a lot outside of one ET? no

but can’t risk ET running out before end which costs me damage

[pallid girder]

No physical alternative tho.
ArcSteven could've be one but the dev decide not to give him para.

[normal parcel]

Arc Steven has also chase problem but without evasion

[sullen zephyr]

what kind of para would make sense for arc steven though? t-wave?

[cloud timber]

no speed is also his biggest issue

[vagrant ivy]

passive on grid ig

[normal parcel]

Maybe arc Steven may work with Aron, since his b move boosts defenses

[vagrant ivy]

but he has few uses for para outside of DC so makes sense why they won’t give him that

[cloud timber]

if his b move was fast maybe, it's not

[pallid girder]

ArcLance get para out of nowhere tho, although it's a welcome one.

[normal parcel]

I guess if you need the debuffs on top of that

[civic island]

Yeah in every other stages he's p good
But for electric blue's rebuffs, def drops, aoe para and 20% sync is 📈

[cloud timber]

not something you want to use more than a single time really

[normal parcel]

Maybe 2 times + a defend order with the passive that buffs defenses 1st time

But I guess Steven will be only useful for steel weak

[safe prawn]

Yes overall
But the gap is huge in electric bc of the 2 rebuffs

[normal parcel]

Circle isn't that far behind

[cloud timber]

yeah steven doesn't have value outside of steel with his reactive passive being bad and nothing to enable sing

for right now

[civic island]

If only ssaCynthia had fighting wish

[pallid girder]

I'm guessing Chase + Melony with NC Red will score more than Irida + idk who spam with NC Red in ice.

[normal parcel]

For steel corless can spam (even if isn't that fast compared to melony

[cloud timber]

maybe there's something weird that i'm forgetting about

[normal parcel]

Main issue is if the stage spams aoe

Steven doesn't even have dodge

But I guess 2 rebuffs and fast setup for corless are too good to pass

Maybe SC Steven may be better despite single rebuffs, due to seun, while SC selene can still fully setup him with tm MPR, (but no support ex is rough)

Wondering if anni Lillie 2.0 is better than Selene due to sprint ex

[civic island]

Usual, 2 aoe 2 single t

Play rough and crunch

[normal parcel]

Play rough and crunch are kinda annoying

Don know if downside up will waste time if play rough procs at +6 attack

[toxic pine]

Got my 1m points.

[normal parcel]

However despite all I think lance may be the most usable of the 3 outside his type, because paralysis + fast def/spdef debuffs are a good combo

Expecially for tech nukers with smarty pants/relentless that can't easily debuff by themselves (renegade Cynthia)

[rare apex]

thorton

[civic island]

VThorton mvp

[vagrant ivy]

he gets his paralysis tile at 3/5 which is 2 yellow candies worth

[normal parcel]

Support field is a great combo

[vagrant ivy]

felt like that should be noted

[normal parcel]

Isn't an arc suit, but I guess field candies are quite rare

[cloud timber]

i think it wastes 0 frames but you could try to see for yourself from here lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaig4E8INdg

[vagrant ivy]

was talking about arc lance

[pallid girder]

The only thing Thorton did wrong is he uses field base. If he's support base ppl won't question him that much

[cloud timber]

seems like 0 frames between sunny daze and the next attack

[vagrant ivy]

I don’t really think any of the arc units will do well outside of their type

unless you’re desperate ig

[civic island]

Rebuffing is their main thing, so yeah

[pallid girder]

Also type related "master passive".

[cloud timber]

arc lance is good for ssr cynthia and anything else that would want to use relentless/smarty pants

[civic island]

By not affecting sync won't change much the outcome
Sure Lance will be useful for fast debuffing multipliers, was thinking of ssrCynthia for example or units w power play

Lmao in time

But yeah

[normal parcel]

I think arc Lance could work in ghost single