#Damage Challenge

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languid raven
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melony need vigilance right>

cursive linden
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NC Blue -> Melony -> Arc Cynthia twice with no b move

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3.1M

boreal warren
languid raven
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What is your Melony build then

languid raven
cedar cloak
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nowadays, the game is so advanced, you dont really need vigi on support lol. People just rush the dmg to end it in most contents

boreal warren
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I don’t have any deluxe cookie so I can’t use any good skills anyway lol

languid raven
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i was gonna say i dont think i have those cookies i only ahve

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like the usual ones from back in the day like creamy

boreal warren
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also took vigilance off because it felt like it stalled the timer for 1-2 seconds sometimes, just for peace of mind I guess

fluid anvil
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rank 1 - 16,4M goddamn
and we'll never see his scores 😦

languid raven
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f it lets try it. im guessing you are using blues attack to debuf and just go at it with cynthia

cedar cloak
vernal condor
boreal warren
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I use sonia can’t help with blue sorry

cedar cloak
vernal condor
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oh well

cedar cloak
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Few more days to go, watch they gonna surprise us with 18mil score SophoKEK

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ArvenSurrender goated gears

rose basalt
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cant wait for electric triple this reset

vernal condor
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I have no idea what I'll do

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I think i'll try a NC Blue dps for fun

rose basalt
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have a feeling the top scorers will all have ash since his b move is a free 1 mil

vernal condor
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it's not that free

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you need full gauge, which you never have when sing spamming

rose basalt
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welp all this time and i didnt knw lul

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didnt pay attention

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i just saw big numbers

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💪

civic island
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Rejuvinate moment

true locust
vernal condor
true locust
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Dena scam me today 1m from my ground clear🤣

fluid anvil
true locust
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He did on ground way more then 6m

fluid anvil
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how

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show the score 😦

true locust
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If i got corect results 6,6m i should get today

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But i got scamed on 1m

civic island
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Why so?

true locust
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Check numbers and lucky skills:)

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You see why:)

fluid anvil
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why you tanking with Cynthia?

true locust
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Its random🙂

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Choise from game

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Better cynthia then melony if get para🤣

lethal siren
fluid anvil
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oh yeah

lethal siren
rose basalt
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5/5 cyn?

true locust
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Cynthia have best speed off then all

boreal warren
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which moves take more time for animation, sandslash or aggron

true locust
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Right mon

fluid anvil
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in October there will be normal Ground 3v3, then we finally see all the 6M+ scores

agile root
boreal warren
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thanks

true locust
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Yeap not working sand blaster

fluid anvil
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wtf

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lmao

true locust
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You get less score then sp3:)

cedar cloak
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so sp3 is better

true locust
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Way less one sync is 400k

cedar cloak
fluid anvil
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report + compensation gems

true locust
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No its just hear custom skill is glitched

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Not give boost from sync damage its all

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Maks wat can be done on ground is 6,6-7m

cedar cloak
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i see

true locust
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But need hear custom work for it🤣

languid raven
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i got 1.3m i will take that

boreal warren
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you think 4m+ is possible with sonia?

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i havent tried new strategy much but also forgot it’s only -1 defense to one person not everyone

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wow i think full para actually makes more difference

languid raven
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is dialga worth investing on ?

true locust
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Don’t think you can do whit sonia

boreal warren
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might try this out more

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yea I can’t do as much damage with her

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but just trying to max out what I can do

true locust
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Sonia is slow for it

boreal warren
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I can easily get off the 3 sync b move but the damage just isn’t there

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maybe sometimes 2 b move

true locust
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3 sync is wat maks you can get

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Sand slow it down ass hell

languid raven
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guys again is investing in dialga worth it for more besides this challenge

true locust
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Lucas ?

languid raven
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yeah

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to like ex him and use 2 candies

fluid anvil
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Cynthia is playing DC on hard mode WEEZing

true locust
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Depend if you will be try next hse dragon ground

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But lucas is not the best

languid raven
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hse dragon ground what?

true locust
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Yes dragon ground

languid raven
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thats the only team i saw for that damage thing in the excel sheet

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utilizing dragonite

true locust
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Nate arc lance

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Too good team

languid raven
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lance arc

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let me check

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im not good with names

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lance arc is only 1/5 btw but i could candy if needed

boreal warren
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I need more dmg for my dragon run but I don’t have anything good for it

true locust
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Better candy him then lucas lol

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Lucas is old junk vs arc lance

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Arc lance is the best dragon tech

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Now off course:)

fluid anvil
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yellow candies vs green candies

languid raven
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yeah its different candies though

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true locust
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Nate

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And need use nate b move too befor last lance sync

languid raven
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anyone any advice on that fight i am going to settle for 1.6m with cynthia

normal parcel
boreal warren
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that’s crazy that’s almost how much I got with 3 sync and 2 b move

normal parcel
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I guess he used tm MPR, but still is a lot for just 2 syncs and no b move

boreal warren
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its because blue rebuff + defense drop

true locust
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Blue rebuff mean nothing

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He drop def and power sync

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Its wat he do

normal parcel
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I mean that's the standard arc Cynthia team

boreal warren
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then just defense drop

sweet grail
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ポケマス豆知識

影分身や鉄壁などの1種類の能力が上がる技を空撃ちすると「〇〇の××はもう上がらない」と表示されタイムロスとなる

一方コスモパワーや瞑想などの複数の能力が上がる技だと表示が「しかしうまく決まらなかった」となり技回転が速くなる

true locust
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You can use chase too

normal parcel
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3 syncs + the b move with MPR shkuld give almost 4m (or over 4m with good gears)

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true locust
normal parcel
boreal warren
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that’s what they said pretty much

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because the message it gives

normal parcel
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Generally the best is Aron because of support ex and 1 gauge

boreal warren
true locust
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Chase give speed too

boreal warren
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I can just barely get away with not having to use her potion

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how much?

normal parcel
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Lodge n could work with Nate because is unova

true locust
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Alot he raise speed and eva yeach trainer move you use

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So can get 6 maks for all team

boreal warren
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oh wait I think the problem was I couldn’t get him 3/5 if I need to

true locust
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Yes he need 3/5

boreal warren
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damn

normal parcel
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I think it raises stats at 1/5

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But 3/5 has important stuffs

boreal warren
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doesn’t electrifying chase take up a lot of time or nah

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wait

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nvm you would para with move anyway

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but if you get hit with quake still

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tough

normal parcel
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For that you generally hope to dodge, and generally chase isn't that great in stages that spam a lot of aoe

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And chase is mainly a special support

zenith jolt
normal parcel
boreal warren
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also on top of that I don’t have his exr which I assume would be very helpful

zenith jolt
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It’s been 2 days since I’m trying to improve Cynthia and get over 5M and can’t get it

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But I don’t have the fairy stage more than 4M as well

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And this one is so much as a garbage

boreal warren
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what’s the boost for SEUN and SMUN

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%

brisk shale
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Would pp2 be better than adren/headstart on melony?

vernal condor
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Yes

crude sandal
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Best team for later?

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Final confirmation. Ash better than SS Hau?

civic island
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And now we have those sync stacks, can't wait for a support w those

vernal condor
civic island
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Stage got xspeed all, so 4 bmoves

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It will take some time

boreal warren
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oh wow

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nice

crude sandal
vernal condor
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Power Plant probably

crude sandal
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Because his innate is ET, but Power Plant slows him down a fair chunk

crude sandal
vernal condor
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you use it

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but 2 fairy zone should be enough

crude sandal
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It maybe enough, but it slows him down marginally

vernal condor
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we'll see

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ET also enables sing spam without a status, so you can use any 3rd of your choice

crude sandal
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And like Trope said, the stage has X Speed All, and it slows down Hau's set up even more

languid raven
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Guys I only have like 400 tickets. Which unit is the best to pick if I don't own any

glossy token
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depends on your roster

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do you have any sprint or field pairs otherwise?

crude sandal
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All of the DC units are middling at best

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alr ty for the input

languid raven
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super helpful

crude sandal
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It really depends on what you want right now

languid raven
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I don't even know what to get from the paid gems banner....

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But I guess any improvement to ghost fairy bug or psych would be nice

glossy token
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none of them are specifically patching a hole in your roster, so i might just wait for whatever bug unit gets added

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since thats your weakest area by far

languid raven
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Should I grab barry?

glossy token
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sc barry would certainly help your bug lineup, but like

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do you actually want him? or do you feel like you 'should'?

languid raven
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Deff a should

crude sandal
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Fairy also has some decent F2P units like BP Valerie

glossy token
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given the options that will be in the second special costume, barry is probably the biggest single unit improvement to your roster of the lineup. however, as a sc unit hes also primed to get powercrept by a mf/arc unit (arc alder is imminent ill die on that hill)

cursive linden
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Is Lodge Lillie gonna be good for Fairy ST or will there be no salvation for F2Ps against Fairy 3v1?

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so i would say only pull barry if you really want him

cursive linden
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Her multiplier is trap

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she has 3

cursive linden
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-atk, trap, and double down

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on top of innate

crude sandal
cursive linden
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Yeah but her base stat is trash

crude sandal
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She would need SS Wally on the team

glossy token
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if you can efficiently set those up she can do well

languid raven
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Is Wally worth getting?

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If you were me

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I guess I won't go for barey

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Barry*

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crude sandal
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Mina might be better than Lodge Lillie

languid raven
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The one from the paid banner

cursive linden
glossy token
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theres a costume wally??

cursive linden
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Sygna Suit Wally

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He is on Pokefair scout select B

glossy token
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ahh

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pinch i dont think you really Need anything from the banner. i would save your gems. if you feel the need to pull something, pull sc barry, but i think holding your gems and going for something like arc alder when he inevitably comes around in a few months is a better idea

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like ffs i dont even have guzma which means i learned the bugsy bug dc method

placid pawn
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Hi, what's a good support to pair with Nate and Lance in the dragon stage?

languid raven
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I see I see. I trust you guys I'm still getting used to this game

glossy token
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guzma can put up very respectable scores

crude sandal
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This next Tuesday will be funny

glossy token
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and if we didnt have arc alder on the horizon it would be a slam dunk for barry

crude sandal
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ST steel and the best nuker for it is a general pool unit SophoKEK

languid raven
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Like right now I need to figure out a fairy team and dark

crude sandal
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And he's also a sync spammer

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languid raven
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I could make them I have a decent amount of items

glossy token
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this is my fairy score atm

languid raven
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if you have the resources to grab bp valerie and ex her, she can help quite a bit on the cynthia stage

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you dont have to copy my setup bc you have a much more robust roster

languid raven
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Well idk what I'm doing so you tell me hahah I trust you

glossy token
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to tag in one of the much more knowledgable people, @cloud timber @icy pendant would arc steven pair well with ex bp valerie for cynthia's dc?

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obvi the steel rebuff isnt really anything there but

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immediate +6atk +3crit to expedite the sync rush, use him for the 2x support sync

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not sure how long the animation on his bmove is and whether thats worth the time to give valerie +2def so she doesnt die but

delicate junco
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Seeking ssistance for the dmage challenges

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any and all

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even the bianca one

languid raven
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bleck i can help in a sec

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lemme get a dark comp for pinch

delicate junco
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Please note that like

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im a recent returner, so several units over the pst 2 years or are BP/DC eclusive I wont have

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I think 1 mil per challenge might be beyond my reach as is

glossy token
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pinch youve got a lot of the top end dark units (akari, sygna cyrus, etc) but if you would rather invest in a unit you have more dupes of/that isnt as hard to boost heres a 630k with ex sidney

languid raven
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I'm deff running low on candies so any options that don't use that I'm down

glossy token
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this cyrus will be harder to copy

languid raven
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Ex I can make more

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so i get you

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i returned for rika and am very slowly catching up

delicate junco
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oh cool so im not alone in the kiddie pool, nice

crude sandal
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If you get 3+/5 for Colress, then you might 1M the 3v1 steel DC

glossy token
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unfortunately his multiplier is confusion which runs out faster than we'd like, but

delicate junco
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for the dark challenge I have a 6* Karen, but idk how really make that damage tick up while also saving time

crude sandal
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You need a spammer

glossy token
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^

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have you read through the information in the pins?

crude sandal
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Like Melony or NC Rosa

glossy token
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for karen, you just need either a para spammer or a para and a spammer

delicate junco
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thats it?

glossy token
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her satisfied snarl on top of snarl to get to -6spatk is the fastest you'll take care of that for devastation

delicate junco
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are we not going for devestation?

glossy token
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we are. she just does it too well to be worth a second unit

languid raven
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Omg this is so much lol my brain!

delicate junco
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hold on lemme check something

glossy token
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also pinch im double checking rn, akari might be worth bringing alongside sidney and then your colress

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you skip the support ex but gain the dark zone multiplier

languid raven
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No rush brother I'm just trying to learn quickly and that's hard haha

glossy token
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im not super familiar with her as a unit

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o7

delicate junco
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for context this is my dark clear

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nothing massive

boreal warren
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lol I need to paralyze all 3 then get 3 paralyze and then need steven not to get paralyze off thunder punch

delicate junco
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i got youngster 2 with this team 😭

glossy token
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but my dark roster is 100% f2p

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so factoring in cyrus or akari changes what i have

languid raven
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I'm happy with 500k. If in not gonna try and get new units from the tickets like it's ok

glossy token
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that'll be a huge help for what i can suggest - i have an idea in mind but i dont wanna offer it if youve already ruled it out for not having the pieces

crude sandal
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Electric 3v3 later will be another poggers DC like fire and fairy

delicate junco
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Well before i do all of that ( i had started on it a few days ago), can you tell me how I should be attacking?

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delicate junco
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do we ignore barry unite in favor of getting mega online asap?

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no

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but those 3 might also not be your strongest combination

delicate junco
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i see

crude sandal
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Welp, top 52 now. I expect to be demoted to the bottom 100 later. Night y'all CaitlinSleeper

glossy token
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sry realized i had the wrong karen grid on

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ugh i forgot to take off vigi ls. whatever

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its fine

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youll get the idea just pretend she has cs2 on

chilly sierra
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any vid that demonstrates the rotation for dragon and fairy weak dc?

boreal warren
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if I did math correctly ~4m should be possible for me if I get everything to line up

glossy token
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sry its so small its the only way i can compress the file to fit within discord's non-nitro limit

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but yeah you can prob get 250k with cs2 (or sp3)

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which brings you up to youngster 3 at least!

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but hopefully that demonstrates what you were looking for

normal parcel
copper otter
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just to explain rq

copper otter
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I know but i'm just saying in general.

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i am 100% understanding if this isnt yoptimal

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i only have 1/2 of those supports ex

copper otter
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oh no no, it's not even that.

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i'm referring solely from Karen's sync

normal parcel
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I feel that hau despite all his multipliers may be just too slow compared to ash

glossy token
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alr link i'm listening (genuinely, im very interested)

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also

copper otter
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you're syncing too fast. Sync Power Flux is not applying to the Move gauges you got back from Barry because you're doing it too fast.

glossy token
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ohhh

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damn i didnt even think about that

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huh

turbid vault
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What is best team against Dragonite for ranked DC since he is status immune?

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also link i tagged invert and adept but

turbid vault
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I know about the pins but why

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copper otter
delicate junco
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copper otter
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after sync yes, does that mean are you sync rushing with BP Barry?

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not sure. this is for a diff battle and roster entirely

copper otter
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plus, BP Valerie can already max her own stats can she not?

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she can, but it takes both her tms + 3 uses of swords dance

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which is a long animation

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so someone to instant max her so she just applies the seun from an empty sd feels like it has some value. but then again i could be wrong

languid raven
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What happened?

glossy token
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so if you pack ground guard colress in slot 3 to be your para spam (and screech)

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ex arc steven is probably not the best complement to ex bp valerie

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also im just realizing thats tapu mina not base mina

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oops

languid raven
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Oh for the fairy type run?

glossy token
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yeah

languid raven
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Is the Valerie the mawile?

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So ex her?

glossy token
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yes

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or well

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don't yet

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but most likely that'll be your ticket

languid raven
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Ok I will wait hahah

glossy token
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linkable is much more knowledgeable

languid raven
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This is a tough game sometimes.

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Can't even beat the event fight vs cynthia.

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i love it for being a puzzle but yeah it gets very convoluted

languid raven
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While we wait im doing my battle rally

copper otter
# glossy token so someone to instant max her so she just applies the seun from an empty sd feel...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6LbGIYTZB0 this will explain why not having arc steven will be better.

First time recording a Damage Challenge run but hey it's F2P so...

Colress is there simply for Paralyze and AoE Defense drop. Meanwhile, Elio hastens BP Valerie's setup by adding +4 atk to her while Sing spamming while BP Valerie pops her Swords Dance for her Super Effective Up Next.

Elio just needs Unbending because Marnie's Crunch can drop ...

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Elio can help patch out BP Valerie, and sync rush while Colress will be able to do def drops allowing more damage output overall

glossy token
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gotcha. that was the team i used for the other fairy dc, just wasnt sure if arc steven being a newer addition to the game had changed things

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much appreciated!

copper otter
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unfortunately i tried using him, his moves in general are slow and him getting hit heals you which wastes time

glossy token
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true, reaction passive

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i forgot about that

copper otter
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not even his TM will be worth using since the TM takes forever

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takes like 8 seconds for some reason

glossy token
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they had to nerf him somehow hes too cracked otherwise

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ok. so bearing that in mind, before we say pinch should ex bp valerie and elio and go to town, do tapu mina, jigglypuff lyra, g. rapidash lisia, or gardevoir diantha (all 1/5) outperform or change the comp for ex bp valerie?

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mina as a fairy terrain setter for the +50% seems valuable but not enough to outdamage the above

copper otter
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Fairy zone takes a while to set up and may be slightly detrimental than def debuffs since you have to sync with SS Mina first which makes you lose out on damage output on your highest damaging syncs near the end of the battle

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gotcha

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alright

copper otter
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also, you shouldn't even be using SS Mina if she's 1/5

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copper otter
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I had to use Colress for Steven's battle.

glossy token
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ditto lmao

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my cynthia clear was poppy ex bp valerie and ex leaf

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support first sync and +2def for valerie so she didnt die

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and then potions

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and gauge refresh since my poppy has no infliction charging freebie whatever at 1/5 lmao

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it was extremely scuffed

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but yeah ok theres the fairy sorted

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tysm for the help!!

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i thiiiiiiink akari for dark zone isnt quite worth it next to ex sidney

languid raven
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you can find stuff for that in the pins

languid raven
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But like 3/5 grid or like

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on your sheet he's 5/5

languid raven
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Oh so we good

glossy token
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so thats what i was assuming

languid raven
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Lol

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yeah lol

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technically you dont need to configure him with the full paraspam grid if you dont want but

delicate junco
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@glossy token how do i share this?

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either way hes ground weak so he wants as much +def as you can get him

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delicate junco
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oh nvm

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or download

languid raven
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Let me set it up one sec

delicate junco
floral blade
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bleck for a quick note, if you can go to visibility -> have

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and then hit the image button

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that'll make it easier to assess

fair mist
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floral blade
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ty

fair mist
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bleh

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oh i didnt realize it had a shortcut mb

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oh damn bleck you have ash

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lucky lucky

delicate junco
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apparently its a unit that hsnt rerun since

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yeah hes been like

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nuked from the game

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i have ssa cynthia from that anni

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no regrets about going hard for her

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but

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that was the last time i was around

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and coming back to hear that ash had been effectively retconned was like

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damn

delicate junco
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I dont have Blue or Red to complete the pieces of exodia but at least i can always potentially get those later

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lmao

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felt

boreal warren
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best buddies thunderbolted from the game

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and hey ash alone is still insane so

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and bleck you said you dont have the resources to add an ex right?

delicate junco
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i used an ex earlier today so no

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not until next master mode

glossy token
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if you can ex (ideally ex and exr) your redlax sooner rather than later he will 100% pay for himself in this mode, but i also get it

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im also in the hole as far as champ spriits go

languid raven
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I am not seeing the colress build on the sync grid tab

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Anyone have one?

glossy token
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you should be able to click that blue

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and itll take you to the pomatools grid

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i need to investigate seasonal caitlin rq since you have her ex

delicate junco
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updated list

languid raven
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Where is that at

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damn she unfortunately doesnt bring much value

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its in the pins pinch

glossy token
# delicate junco

ok. so while a slower-sync version of what i did in the video (like linkable said, making sure you have the full gauge for sync power flux) is maybe not the strictly optimal comp, your instinct is probably in the right place

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its up to you if you want to farm for the mprs on redlax or just take what he feels like offering

icy pendant
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nw, apologies for the bother with the ping! just pickd two people who i recalled as being active around this time of day

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appreciate the insight

languid raven
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Oh sweet got it down!

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Ok now to watch the video

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Wait I'm dumb what is mawiles grid and I have to ex her right

glossy token
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yeah

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lemme grab you mawile's grid

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i put sp3 on her but cs2 will do just as well

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you have a wider fairy roster overall so it makes less sense in your case

languid raven
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Vigilance is what was on the video I think?

glossy token
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she has vigi as a passive

languid raven
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Jk that's passive

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Lol

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So cs2?

glossy token
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yep!

languid raven
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Those cookies I have a thousand so no worries

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I did that thing with legendary gauntlet and bam

glossy token
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yeah, thats part of why cs2 is so preferable

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bc its so comparatively cheap

feral hamlet
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Surely it's not possible to get more with 3/5 Role EX NC Serena, right?

glossy token
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im down to 1 sp3 cookie now and i am Afraid

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is there a reason you're not doing your support sync with elio?

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like yeah hes not sprint but

feral hamlet
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Would it have made that much of a difference?

glossy token
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idk

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it just feels like if you're doing a support sync before you start syncing with serena, an elio sync over redlax might get you to 740

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since theyre both +2 but one counts for damage

feral hamlet
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Her Role EX is support though

glossy token
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oh, are you just syncing with her the whole time?

feral hamlet
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No, just Red first, then Serena

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I think I got 5 syncs in with her?

glossy token
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yeah, im wondering if you were to go elio -> serena and not red -> serena if that would get you to the next threshold

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the -3 from reds sync vs elio's doing damage (and arguably you being able to use a red tm on both cycles, since you can use the first one on him and the second one on serena to accelerate both countdowns)

last flume
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So thinking really quick, would using thundershock over Volt Tackle actually be useful sometimes for tomorrow?

feral hamlet
glossy token
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OH can serena change her sync type to dark?

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i was 100% in water dc thinking

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mb

feral hamlet
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Oh right for that she would also be good

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No need to waste 4 turns to set up rebuff

glossy token
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i didnt realize she and calem both could do that

feral hamlet
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So anyway, I need to get started on Super Sparring.

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Fairy gonna be brutal again since I don't have 1 of the 4 uber units required. Gotta settle for BP Valerie to not even crack 1M.
For Lance, maybe a Lucas team.
For Steven, only Courtney may be viable.

bronze mason
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Don’t run don’t trip innit

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Have a blessed day

bronze mason
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I see everyone use Lucas

copper otter
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Instead of og Red, I used nc blue, he gives anyone an extra 20% damage in sync. For someone who doesn't have him, you can use red, but you NEED to max out Power play.

fluid anvil
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This is the way

copper otter
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Curious to see the hell that these three will bring

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Elec will be easy, ice will be interestingish, Grass though for those without adaman.... HilbertHmm

lusty galleon
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skill gears really carry a lot lol

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that or damage rolls

feral hamlet
fluid anvil
lusty galleon
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oh, I see

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will you reach the 6M DawnNom

icy pendant
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important did you grid the 4/5 tile? or no

lusty galleon
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I suppose the 4 and 5 tiles eat more time than anything rosa

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the 4... I don't know how much it takes to grant the pmun

fluid anvil
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probably not, would need to reset for triple para with blue (9%) + at least 1 para proc + 1 TM refresh all simultaneously.
lots of rng, but that would more or less guarantee 6M, maybe even 6.2-6.3M
We will see this when the ground 3v3 comes around

fluid anvil
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I'm not 100% sure, but I think I didnt even get a para proc and still reached 4 Cynthia syncs .. maybe the triple para helped.
But you would still need 1 para proc to use the 2-nd TM and keep the rest (4 syncs and 1 B-move)

icy pendant
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tbh you might need a little more than just a para proc for that

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but wait did you just SEUN the last sync then?

fluid anvil
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TM was either for the 2-nd Cynthia sync or her 3-rd one. So also not optimal (optimal is the last one/ones)

icy pendant
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yeah I reset for last two personally, and your gear being a lot better than mine makes up for it

cedar cloak
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It's almost 4 hrs straight now... I still couldn't get that good rng on at least 1 Para + Cynthia's tm refresh in the same run. The rng needed on this stage is just CherylDizzy

copper otter
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I even did Larry, and it still did well but larry need to be 3/5

icy pendant
fluid anvil
copper otter
fluid anvil
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mine is low Atk tho 😦

cloud timber
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possible hilbert could save more time with shielded on tm if you have him ex bur no symun for first sync and no -2 def

fluid anvil
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I actually even had like 3-4 seconds when the B-move started going off. And you only need ~1 second for it to start and get counted
para proc + 2 TMs + good gears is basically 6M in the bag.
if someone insane can get 3 TMs somehow then it would be 7M+, but that rng is godlike

cloud timber
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oh and no triage tank so no reactive passive slowing things down

icy pendant
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no MPR, full para, 1 para proc, 4 seconds left at the end (this is very doable)

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if my math is right, is that over 5.5m?

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it surely can’t be

cloud timber
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yeah hilbert is supposed to be the ideal pick there

icy pendant
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yeah Hilbert kinda goated with BP Valerie

cloud timber
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skippingmud mentioned it in his bp valerie run, just didn't use bc hilbert was originally planned for something else

vernal condor
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Skill gears shouldn't have passives PrycePain

icy pendant
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but also sheesh how long did rolling for that skill gear take you

copper otter
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Just a casual 999,999 on hyper beam

fluid anvil
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I bought Pink/green (mostly Pink) silver feathers from the Rally shop for a few months - that was enough
and pins of course

cloud timber
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missing 30 atk on bracelet does hurt a lot though, could do better still even if you drop a relevant passive or even two

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missing 15 atk on pin is enough to be compensated with passives prob

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better if you run calcs yourself to know for sure tho

bronze mason
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What move level does Bp barry, colress, Dana and melony have to be

feral hamlet
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Dana is good now?

icy pendant
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if you can compress your damage dealer into an enabler of sing spam I could see it, but otherwise not really

cloud timber
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dana is usable for seun if you don't have redlax or h jasmine

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you only get 2 uses if not 3/5 though

icy pendant
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the nice thing about both of those is they can paralyze, Dana can’t bring any meaningful status

cloud timber
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and she has reactive passive in team toughen up 9 iirc to slow things down

icy pendant
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yeah that too

bronze mason
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3/5?

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Or 1/5 good

cloud timber
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think it's better to just not use

bronze mason
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But everyone recommends them for damage challenge

cloud timber
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bp barry and colress need 3/5 for gaugeless spam which is the reason you'd want them in the first place

bronze mason
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O

cloud timber
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melony gains accuracy from her 2/5 tiles but 1/5 is definitely still worth using

copper otter
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Posting it now

bronze mason
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Ah melony is for accuracy

copper otter
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I'm fairly certain i can optimize it more and hit 2 mil..... buuut...

bronze mason
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But no point of Dana then?

icy pendant
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Melony is also the only sing spammer that doesn’t have a glaring downside

cloud timber
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dana gaining ex recently does make her much more worth using than before and people were using her before that

copper otter
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Boom

bronze mason
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Do you have a grid for all 3 of them that I can copy?

copper otter
bronze mason
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By 3 I meant bp Barry, colress, and melony

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Or does the google doc have the ones I need

bronze mason
cloud timber
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doc will have it

bronze mason
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Link would I be able to do it without champion rosa and the Nate?

cloud timber
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the first one linked in the clear sheet

bronze mason
cloud timber
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yes

bronze mason
cloud timber
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damage challenge sheet, first link in the pins here

bronze mason
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O ok thank you

cloud timber
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then the first link within that

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very possible you could just run sonia/melony and do better than dana with being able to fit in 2 more syncs

icy pendant
vernal condor
bronze mason
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Like 3 days ago I think

cloud timber
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idk if any of them actually ever used dana, just that someone in the past used her to some success and she does have seun so she could be useful in theory

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but you give up a lot trying to use her

icy pendant
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she's still less useful than sc steven, and he's not particularly relevant anymore

vernal condor
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I have seen what... 3 clears with Dana at most? Ever?

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I have 1 in the doc and I know Tosakinto did one himself (im pretty sure)

woven fjord
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Improved my score a bit on the Lance stage. Not much I can do there since my Lucas is only 2/5.

vernal condor
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No ryuki?

icy pendant
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melony got burned at the very end sigh

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anyways back to attempts at the ranked ground stage now that I got my 1 million on dark

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(no redlax at 3/5 and I can't be bothered to figure out how to boost cerena to +6 attack otherwise)

boreal warren
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what’s the chance of getting hit with +6 evasiveness

brisk shale
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50%

boreal warren
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ty

icy pendant
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ugh got triple para into earthquake para proc on turn 1 but then didn't get the mpr so I lost the god run on a 30% :/

sacred badger
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electric multi soon ;o

icy pendant
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if anyone has it's you, Cynthia's strongest soldier 😉

boreal warren
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I would do anything to see a full eq miss

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just one

icy pendant
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I also love Steven paralyzing me with thunder punch, way to kill the mood stone man

icy pendant
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well I got 6 sync cynthia with 2 seun... problem is 0.2 left on clock so I couldn't get off b move 💀

jolly violet
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My gears for that 5.2 M if anyone interested

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Its ass compare to what Jerjok has

icy pendant
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oh your gear looks like mine no way

woven fjord
icy pendant
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ugh had the god run and then steven stone decided to paralyze again

icy pendant
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it's an easy 5m once I can do it all

delicate junco
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hmm

icy pendant
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but yaknow if I don't get it this try I'll unequip the 4/5 tile

delicate junco
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is cyrus good for the dragon challenge

jolly violet
delicate junco
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kinda stumped on what to do for it

icy pendant
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if you have no options then cyrus is fine, but there's a lot that's better than him

delicate junco
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SS Cynthia my beloved is blocked hard because of the stat immunity

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would 6* Zinnia work instead?

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oh right, one sec

icy pendant
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rather take Cyrus over her

delicate junco
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heres what im working with

icy pendant
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someone who knows more about anni raihan than this 0/5 haver, why would this pick be anything other than anni raihan

delicate junco
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i never really understood how to make the most out of him

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i recently ws able to give him 3/5 tho so his main potential is coming in

cloud timber
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if that's your only 3/5 ex dragon tech you use him, ignore interference sync

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can run ss morty plus aaron for support

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morty's tm is faster than defend order even though they're both +1

icy pendant
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got the cynthia run lfg

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almost 5.4 million 👀

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I’m free for real this time?

delicate junco
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my aaron is 1/5

icy pendant
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you have him, that's all you need

delicate junco
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ah, i see

cloud timber
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yea essential for sync rush when you can't status

thin wren
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he's gonna be 3 seconds overall slower without a 3/5 tile but you should be fine

icy pendant
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there's a small subset of trainers who can do that but aaron is definitely the best of them

thin wren
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oleana is the best I think but she's harder to maintain

icy pendant
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she also needs 5/5 lol

cloud timber
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zambro said twofer is suboptimal so only 3/5 needed

fluid anvil
icy pendant
fluid anvil
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Hmm, that seems optimal then.
with my gears you would have had ~6M probably

icy pendant
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yeah I'll roll gears for one of these events one day, but haven't been bothered to yet

delicate junco
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im going to assume im going to ignore the sandstorm part of raihan, despite the propulsion right?

cloud timber
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yep

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pretty possible that even one turn of sandstorm damage undoes propulsion

thin wren
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aoe elec today

icy pendant
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sun is just a super safe weather especially if exr morty

delicate junco
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should i grid to find a way to reach wyrmind up?

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I can reach it if i trade MAX Team Smrts 9

cloud timber
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smun doesn't boost sync so you're trading +100 on max move for a boosted twister at best

delicate junco
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oh ew

icy pendant
# fluid anvil how many para procs, how many TMs? also did you use the 4/5 PMUN tile or not ?

aggron para earthquake outside of sandstorm
cynthia tm immediately after her second sync to get the reset check over with (probably can be later)
sandslash para drill run inside sandstorm
5.76 seconds remaining going into final sync
https://youtu.be/yrkOwSC0oDA

fluid anvil
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And your gear is only 7% sync damage ? 6M is not the limit then

icy pendant
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yeah definitely not, and if I got a drill run miss or 1 extra paralysis outside of sandstorm I could see a third TM fitting in there

feral hamlet
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And pure sync rush down gets me to 8 sync level, but still not a better score. This is it. She can't reach 1M+ without 5/5. Moving on...

feral hamlet
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Yeah

delicate junco
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oh sweet i can buy my first DC character

sacred badger
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wwith her ex role @feral hamlet ?

feral hamlet
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Yeah

delicate junco
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(do people call these BPs or are they seperate)

cloud timber
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dc units

sacred badger
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hmm i used redlax + Elio

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managed to hit 1.3m, but she can hit 2m

feral hamlet
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That same team got me 700k

delicate junco
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any DC units that are must haves

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like BP barry level tier?

feral hamlet
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As far as I'm concerned, that's her ceiling. There's always a huge disparity between what is reportedly possible and what is actually possible (by me). Even as much as a 60% shortfall

delicate junco
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more generic question: are Sprint units or field units more favored?

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or is it account dependant

cloud timber
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you mean sprint or field?

delicate junco
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yeah

cloud timber
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better to prioritize field

sacred badger
cloud timber
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particularly if you lack the zone of that type with other units

sacred badger
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tbh, i got to 1.3m by syncing with elio -> redlax -> nc serena all the way.

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it gives nc serena time to drop as many stats down so when she syncs, sshee hits hard.

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for the redlax/elio combo, you do need to paralyze immediately, and sing spam.

feral hamlet
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Yeah, which is how I started the battle

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But i didn't spend all her turns dropping stats. Just two water shuriken so I can land the quick attack

delicate junco
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oh thats slightly annoying

icy pendant
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yeah you're conservatively hitting only 50% of both her power play multipliers then

delicate junco
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the dc units have it on their debut but no way to extend it outside of 6* ex, is that right/

icy pendant
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yep

delicate junco
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dont zones typically expire before the first sync?

feral hamlet
sacred badger
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my nc serena gaming is basicaally tm, 2 water shuriken -> brutal swing

sacred badger
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those sync nodes are forr WATER

delicate junco
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in hindsight they seem less optimal for DC runs themselves

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but in other modes they are probably stronger

sacred badger
delicate junco
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....wait are sprints meant for DC content? that would make since giving their name

icy pendant
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none of the dc units are meant for dc

feral hamlet
delicate junco
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o

cloud timber
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yeah they're rarely useful for dc

delicate junco
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oh of course

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rally

sacred badger
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but yeah

cloud timber
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though i'm planning on using dc gladion for upcoming ice

delicate junco
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since i have 0 fields and only one sprint yeh a field would probably be best

rose basalt
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hmm is nc blue or chase (both exr) better pair with Ash for DC (third slot will be sing spammer)

sacred badger
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nc serena gaming iss basically her tm -> water shuriken x2 -> brutal swiing, wait for elio or redlax sync, then use her bmove, then water shuriken x2 again -> brutal swing again, sync on the other support -> bmove again, and setup redlax's tm on nc serena, and you're sing spamming to points.

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tbh, my elio had Flameproof

cloud timber
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i don't think chase has any rebuff

sacred badger
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cuz he keeps getting burned ;x

rose basalt
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yeah im debating whether 2 rebuff or circle is better

feral hamlet
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Rebuff twice then? Felt like such a waste of time since you need 4 turns to set it up each

feral hamlet
sacred badger
cloud timber
rose basalt
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oh true

icy pendant
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chase has a multiplicative version of blue's additive passive, but also loses 2 rebuffs

cloud timber
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chase is usually better i would feel like but you're not giving up rebuff

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for elec

jolly violet
rose basalt
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guess ill stick with 2 rebuff

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should be fun for b move thunder

cloud timber
sacred badger
cloud timber
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i myself frequently being no exception

icy pendant
cloud timber
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yea

copper otter
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Who's ready for fun in the next 4 1/2 hours TabithaHehe

lethal siren
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What's the team with sstr

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Nc blue and melony?

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-2 rebuff

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It's kinda hard to spam if there are 3 opponents

cloud timber
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nc blue elio

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melony will suffer through gradual healing

sacred badger
cloud timber
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bc you'd need red tm to max attack and that's gradual healing aoe

lethal siren
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Oh
Need to ex elio

sacred badger
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grad healing is kinda itchy ;/

cloud timber
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elio's mpr1 also really bad

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20% just to max atk

jolly violet
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healing doesn't kick in when your HP is full right?

cloud timber
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still takes time

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idk about every source of healing but gradual healing always consumes a bunch

jolly violet
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if full HP help better spam then Chase is better with Red than Blue

copper otter
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I do feel like i can hit 2mil from my dragon team

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Maybe...

sacred badger
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with what team?

long silo
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I know I will be using SST Red later, but I think I'll have fun and try to use NC Blue as the main dps WEEZing

copper otter
lethal siren
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If yes , then I will try

long silo
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I don't actually know but he does have Brainpower lol

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I'll try with NC Blue, Chase, Melony

icy pendant
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I'd be very surprised to see NC Blue 1 million but it would be funny for sure

lethal siren
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Idt 1m?

long silo
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Did anyone try Penny during 3v3 Fairy

lethal siren
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No

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Ig

long silo
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I did not try because mine has no EXR lol

lethal siren
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Spe atk stats of blue?

long silo
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Oh.

lethal siren
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Sp atk is low

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196

delicate junco
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Made my decision

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First dc unit get

long silo
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NC Blue will just be a meme run at least WEEZing

lethal siren
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I need 900k for 3/5 dc silver

delicate junco
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Paldea unit, probably works very well with SC hilda

lethal siren
delicate junco
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Sorry, i should clarify, first paldea unit

lethal siren
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Oh

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I have 2
Geeta and her

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Wonder who will be next dc

long silo
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We're missing Shauna and Hop right

lethal siren
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Yes

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Hop and corviknight

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Steel field TabithaHehe

acoustic chasm
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I want more flying and fighting types

lethal siren
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Or steel sprint

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I got flying wish which I have been waiting for

long silo
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Would be funny to get that right after Lillie

lethal siren
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Yes

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So ig Shauna ki might be next

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Dragon field or sprint goodra or will it be scoutable

acoustic chasm
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What does she have aside from Goodra?

lethal siren
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Have to check

long silo
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Hop should have Dubwool as Normal Field

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Make Normal Zone accessible even if majority won't probably need it?

lethal siren
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Kelfki she already got

acoustic chasm
lethal siren
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So either it's delcatty or goodra

lethal siren
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Ig it's gonna be goodra

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Field or sprint

acoustic chasm
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And of course it will be after dragon HSE lol

lethal siren
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I saw sylveon too with her

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I wonder if surge can do something with chase , nc blue or something TabithaHehe

jolly violet
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Normal weak DC when

lethal siren
long silo
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Ngl I am interested in a Normal weak DC lol

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I want to see how much Palmer and Larry will do

rotund sierra
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civic island
cloud timber
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you'd sync once with cyrus for zone and he can benefit off serena's debuffs too

rotund sierra
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cloud timber
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yeah second sync, first after redlax

rotund sierra
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cloud timber
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won't need to apply dark zone manually if you use it after 1:40 and serena should have enough setup to where you don't have to think about trying to delay anything

rotund sierra
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cloud timber
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serena does want that bottom left sync node

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fossil igloo
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I'm done with this.

boreal warren
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does sand not affect moves

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strength

heavy ore
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it does not

boreal warren
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but if you have grid tile like strengthen user moves and sync move during sandstorm, you should be doing more damage in sandstorm vs not right?

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for some reason i get the same damage on b move in and out of sandstorm, unless b move is another category of moves

fair mist
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sandstorm does not inherently boost moves

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but shes also setting ground zone when she sets a sandstorm

boreal warren
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can she deal less/more damage I thought she always crit

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because

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if not

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I’m ending with the same amount of damage with b move in and out of sand every time

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like overall damage

pallid girder
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You have 5/5 ex Elesa there lmao.

lethal siren
pallid girder
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It's 3v3. Ex striker (no matter a base or an exr) is always better unless the unit really suck ass.

copper otter
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this is painful

long silo
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Just realized the next datamine will allow us to see the next set of DC schedule

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I wonder if they'll do some stuff to change things up HilbertHmm

lethal siren
long silo
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Last one will end sometime mid October

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Ice 3v1

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Okay not mid lol

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Oct 25

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It would be hilarious if Ice 3v1 ends on October 25, then Irida reruns right after

rain copper
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evil

pallid girder
long silo
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Is Hail a big issue on 3v1 environment when the opponent is paralyze and the opponent doesn't move as much?

rain copper
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just use NC Red, he nukes harder than her anyway

long silo
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I will. I don't have Irida anyway EthanGenius

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I need her and Adaman rerun so bad LarryDead

pallid girder
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I mean under hail hit 1M is fine but if you want top I think it'll become an issue.

rain copper
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i think they will rerun in October and November, or both in November to align with Eevee Day

long silo
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That's my guess as well. They might even do one week rerun on Eevee Day LarryDead

long silo
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I didn't need to if they already did ColressLook

rain copper
long silo
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There should be lots of workaround for that (SEUN, stat drops) but I'm suddenly curious

cloud timber
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i feel like sun and rain would be strongest

long silo
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Oh ye hmmm

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Dahlia will still have rebuff but no rain would tank her considerably

cloud timber
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electric will take one of the biggest hits too if not bigger

pallid girder
long silo
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Ye that's huge

copper otter
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OH MAN, I LOVE MULTI EX.

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I LOVE HOW THE TIMER JUST KEEPS GOING WHEN APPLYING REBUFF

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I LOVE THAT I JUST CAN'T DO ANYTHING 🙂

civic island
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Quite annoying for sure

copper otter
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WOW, I GET A GOOD RUN. Lance doesn't crit

rotund sierra
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spiral halo
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rng giveth rng taketh

rotund sierra
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copper otter
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I think what's worse is that I need to use Scale shot and hope for 2 hits

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When I need to save time.... hits 5 times..... when i need to damage... hit 2 times

devout pelican
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So MT Electric next? Finally Ash time?

copper otter
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nah hau time

devout pelican
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That assumes you cake him

pallid girder
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I think the concept of NC Nate in dc is never touch scale shot, no?

long silo
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NC Blue TabithaHehe

devout pelican
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NC Blue + Melony and your dps of choice

long silo
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No NC Blue is the DPS TabithaHehe

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my actual run will be SST Red

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But he absolutely needs Elio

devout pelican
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Red issue is he has no MT sync

copper otter
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Nah, i'm done for tonight

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Lance does not crit 5 times on hiw own sync

devout pelican
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And I suppose needing to do 6 Volt tackle?

pallid girder
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SC Steven + Melony sounds more suitable for SST Red, for the speed drop

rotund sierra
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devout pelican
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I'd be worried if 1m Electric can't be done WEEZing

tribal flax
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They need to let us triple one of the skill when we get extended sync grid and used roll cake (6EX, + 10 Extended + roll cake)

delicate junco
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vs steven is a 3 vs 3 right

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because if so im gonna need favor from you all

long silo
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Should be enough to 1m tho

long silo
feral hamlet
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I'm kind of okay with this. Master 7k rank. Anything I could do to improve these?

rain copper
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using sleep move on terrain makes the popup appear every time GeetaTired

spiral halo
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So Aaron time?

tribal flax
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To be fair, as easy to add 1 tab beside or inside lucky skill, or below increase potencial or ex role.(After EX)

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As there already got sync grid which is some data structure to be source from.

pallid girder
tribal flax
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Pokemon master actually kinda good on "skill" addon, another game might be warframe

rose basalt
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rip to all the bros that decided to skip on ash

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💀

vagrant ivy
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3/5 lucas should not be getting only 357k

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2/5 can get almost 1m without aaron ex

cloud timber
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sst red/nc blue/elio can get in 6 syncs with 2 b moves to apply some speed debuff

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i tested on fairy multi

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melony is definitely slower if you want +6 attack

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bc of fighting through gradual healing

vagrant ivy
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SST red is single target tho

woven fjord
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Tried using Ryuki for the Lance stage in Super Sparring. Could be skill/team issue on my part, but a 4/5 EX Ryuki seemingly does worse than a 2/5 EX Lucas in my experience.

cloud timber
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oh yeah you can apply speed debuff through just tshock

pallid girder
cloud timber
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it is very worth using single targets even in multi though, not many strike units outperformed ss wally or ss cyrus in multi

sacred badger
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definitely ash time ;D

vagrant ivy
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fair

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i wonder if 3/5 sst red will outdo my 2/5 ss hau

feral hamlet
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Broke 1M! Thanks @sacred badger !

sacred badger
cloud timber
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my electric strike options are 4/5 n, base elesa, and base hau

sacred badger
cloud timber
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yea

sacred badger
rotund sierra
vagrant ivy
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base hau??

sacred badger
vagrant ivy
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i feel like N can do 1m but that might be a bit Hopium

rain copper
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Elesa can easily break 1 mil for sure

cloud timber
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n will do 1m too

rain copper
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N might need 5/5

cloud timber
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yea

tender patrol
sacred badger
pallid girder
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The top 1 of Dark 3v1 is 2.5M now. I wonder is it for sure NC Serena?

feral hamlet
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I made it to 4 syncs, if I recall and had to put two se+ on the last one to rush the gauge

cloud timber
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5/5 diantha got like 900k with mega penalty, 5/5 n is a bit better off

sacred badger
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wait, you're gonna 5/5 n? :o.... try Base Elesa first D;

cloud timber
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can access 6 sync nodes at once too

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never said that lol

tender patrol
cloud timber
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if i need to switch i will try elesa first yea

feral hamlet
sacred badger
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honestly, sure crit must be nice.

tender patrol
sacred badger
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can do this too if you go 5/5 as well.

cloud timber
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tm mpr won't do anything, if you're looking for seun it's only good for one use

sacred badger
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its for the sure crit

feral hamlet
cloud timber
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that is likely going to deny you an extra sync

rotund sierra
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delicate junco
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Okay chat....no laughing...but im gonna do it

pallid girder
jolly violet
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Hapu breaks 10M lets go

tender patrol
sacred badger
pallid girder
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Hapu's acc buff sync multiplier is not scale, so she can max it by 1 click on her own X Accuracy.
But her acc debuff sync multiplier IS scale.

cloud timber
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^

delicate junco
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So they use different damage calcs

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I was trying to see if i could forgo accuracy down ll together and focus on elio spam

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but the accuracy down one is stronger if im reading this right

turbid vault
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I secured top 500 I'm pretty sure if I am top 200 right now

delicate junco
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which is a problem because there arent many accuracy down units to begin with, let alone consistent ones

cloud timber
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for good aoe acc down you'd actually need 4/5 ss wally

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everything else is tied to a low rate

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and that's still 6 disarming voices to max out

crude sandal
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Huh, I'm at rank 60, surprising

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@true locust Wut ye team later?

delicate junco
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and im pretty sure hapu is the only earth striker that isnt limited to fairs

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unless lodge rhydon is a striker...but not exactly something i can grab in a timely fashion

cloud timber
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eggmons don't have ex

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what's lodge rhydon

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the only other rhydon is v gio

crude sandal
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Either Lodge Rika or V. Gio