Damage Challenge

[thin wren]

could jacq, Rosa and chase be optimal for psychic?

[warped gulch]

Red’ll be better

This isn’t Nate with Colress that can stack Unova circle

[thin wren]

red over who?

chase?

[warped gulch]

Chase ofc

Rosa can buff speed

While Red’s tm can use for gauge recovery

[thin wren]

oh right it's team wide speed buff

so could redlax, rosa and jacq be optimal for dc?

[warped gulch]

Maybe ?

Idk

[thin wren]

you get 30% more than just Lana+ sync spammer right?

cuz idt Lana passive buffs syncs

[warped gulch]

Like how we used to discuss about NC Cheren or Alt2 again ST Flying

And then Alt2 just stomped ST Flying

[warped gulch]

Her passive only boost move

[thin wren]

this time there won't be a sync spam difference tho

and it's a question of enablers

not dds

[warped gulch]

Jacq has 1 problem

You must use his move 3 times before rushing

And that take quite the time

At least he also very good for Sync rush

[vernal condor]

why 3 times

[thin wren]

I remember hearing he buffs in 2 moves?

[civic island]

Rosa with one tm is fast aenough to spam
Without you may run into gaige problem later
Mostly like using one last move

[warped gulch]

Oh right, Red has SEUN anyway

Use his Tm for fully buff

[thin wren]

yeh

[warped gulch]

Jacq also has Lum Berry every Sync

Which can use like Max HP Pots

[thin wren]

wdym

oh right

max hp pot has no animation or popup right?

assuming no master healer

[warped gulch]

That what i used yesterday to solve the gauge problem

[civic island]

Yeah that's some gauge saving
That comp should be extra fine

[warped gulch]

With this interesting comp i think ?

[thin wren]

that's another source of rush in low gauge

[thin wren]

wait lum has 0 anim in those scenarios.....?

[civic island]

It's like potions at full hp
Or synthesis

[warped gulch]

That comp still just a fun side testing tho, no WTZ, no SEUN other than Jacq himself

[thin wren]

does anyone have a sing spam gif thing

[brisk shale]

I think haze also has no animation when it fails

[thin wren]

yeh

[warped gulch]

~~Also i want to believe my Sprint Dawn is useful ~~

[thin wren]

was used for ghost 1.6 mil

[thin wren]

rosa and red will fix the multipliers

[warped gulch]

Yup, that why this team just fun to look at

[thin wren]

I wonder if Lear could hit 1.3 mil with that comp

redlax rosa Lear

[normal parcel]

Finally got 1m with Bianca in ranked

[long silo]

With the new sing tech, maybe my 1/5 Holiday Viola can clear ST Bug

[thin wren]

only 2/5 btw?Did you never finish candying to 3/5?

[normal parcel]

The tiles I cared most where at 2/5

I can eventually candy her to 3/5 if I need go viral 9

However for this clear 1/5 Rosa was enough

Jasmine and Bianca needs 3/5 however

[thin wren]

but satisfying number

[civic island]

Her bmove also confuses, that's the boring part

[thin wren]

wait it's guaranteed confuse?

ewew

[long silo]

I can just let Blue do the Para thing

[rain copper]

Wait does Viola actually outnuke 3/5 SS Hilbert?

Viola only has a sync multiplier iirc

[thin wren]

no, but some people only have h viola

[rain copper]

Figured

But owning her is based tho

[thin wren]

so psychic st dc redlax jacq and rosa might be optimal?

[civic island]

It is

[long silo]

Yes lol I have no Hilbert

Viola has Tech as EXR tho

So she's my realistic chance

[pallid girder]

Tech EXR is totally different from main tech having innate.

[long silo]

Well true. But I do not have those who have it innate

[normal parcel]

For fairy st is wally the only viable option?

[long silo]

Best one probably ye. Although I don't know the other options

[rain copper]

I think yes. But Pal Serena also has her own niches

[normal parcel]

Bede has a strong sync and field but is confusion based, so pretty unviable

Maybe I will se what I can cook with bede

[thin wren]

ss glad probably hits 1 mil

[normal parcel]

SS glad sync isn't that great however, but maybe his b move will do the job

[thin wren]

Wally will definitely be the best tho lmao

[rain copper]

He takes ages to debuff -6 spatk rho

Unless you have 1/5 Wally like me

[pallid girder]

PSerena can maybe reach 1M? She can paralyze so she can use other 2 booster.

[rain copper]

Yeah, with sing trick

[long silo]

SS Glad can probably brute force it

[normal parcel]

If you take sync -4 it just takes a sync and a fleur cannkn

[pallid girder]

SMarnie has Bulk up, which is a 2 stat buff move.

[normal parcel]

You need to fleur cannon regardless, because it activates his b move

[normal parcel]

She can't spam that however

[vernal condor]

who are you people in my doc that I only shared once

[icy pendant]

actually not me for once, I had it open in a tab after you shared it but closed it last night

[rain copper]

What doc

[vernal condor]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CCTxz0TX-y_D-Z5Dd0fJpBIdC-TXa2RoPDpLhJhcFlg/edit

[rain copper]

Is this your 194739th doc Mael?

[civic island]

SsWally doesn't have much rivalry
Rebuff, zone, -1 spdef, sprint role and a lot of turbo tool

[pallid girder]

Oh hviola actually has 2 sync multipliers in grid, but one is Power Play so it'll be a headache to setup.

[normal parcel]

Only problem is having 50% chance of screwing your run when you press b move but is more a negative qol than unviability

[vernal condor]

approximately

[civic island]

Could be worth adding h.Jasmine?

[rain copper]

[rain copper]

Her passives proccing might be a problem

[civic island]

What passive

[rain copper]

Same situation as Dana

[rain copper]

Full Bracing Command iirc

[normal parcel]

I guess with gladion, Bede could work too if exr, it can summon animationless fairy zone and still debuff spa (and spdef)

[civic island]

Dana trigger each hit

[rain copper]

Unless she is already at +6 at both defenses but it's slow to reach that

[normal parcel]

2 mystical fire can give -4 spa and -2 SpD

[civic island]

I'm comparong to red, I don't think you want those defenses

The major pro is some stats coverage

[pallid girder]

Wow it's easily to forget Bede summon his own fairy zone now.

[civic island]

The cons is speint role n everything else

[normal parcel]

Volo ex can be and option too, has fairy zone and has bianca like circle, but won't help debuffing stats for gladion

Barry is Sinnoh so it helps with volo circle

[icy pendant]

volo 3/5 gets satisfied snicker though

then again that involves using volo and his million passives

[normal parcel]

And dazzling gleam is super slow even without the passives

Volo should just sync for field and use the circle

[safe prawn]

Isn’t dazzling gleam animation like slow af?

[icy pendant]

volo makes me wonder how I'm going to setup nc serena for water st

[safe prawn]

Lol

[normal parcel]

You don't have to touch dazzling gleam

[safe prawn]

You don’t
You use dahila

[normal parcel]

Dojo Gloria ftw

[covert geyser]

dragon ranked dc is pain without nate

serenajust cant do enough

[normal parcel]

Fighting is pain without 3/5 hop, poison is pain without 3/5 oleana or 3/5 SS Roxie

[covert geyser]

at least with fighting theres other options like alt gloria and sc diantha (which not many people have), but poison and dragon is so bad without those mentione

[pallid girder]

If you said like that, for just 1M Dragon 3v3 actually has tons of options too. Many ppl reach 1M w Serena.
Oh it's about ranked DC. Nvm.

[normal parcel]

But SC diantha and Gloria alt don't score as much as hop (if you care about the high score at least)

In ranked I think Serena can't reach 1m, core enforcer isn't as good as Nate b move

In unranked she can, but Nate can reach like 4m

[fluid anvil]

watched the Cyrus - SSTRed 1M video. Well he actually managed 8 syncs, that explains it. Despite clearly having some gauge issues.
Kinda crazy that it worked, I guess sing is the fastest with E.T. But it was still only possible because Cyrus has +6 speed. A a slower damage dealer wouldnt have made it.
And yeah those gears are absolutely insane - massive sync damage boosts
Cyrus doesnt even have any paralysis synergy normally, those Dragon+paralysis/status gears are all normally only useful for SS Cynthia (and ~OG Clair)

[covert geyser]

unranked getting to +1m with her is easy, but in ranked its a struggle to even get past 500k

[normal parcel]

Right now paralysis sync gear are the most useful

I regret using the ever pin on critical moves 3%

[fluid anvil]

Is there some feather type that has increased chances of giving you sync damage for para/status?

[normal parcel]

The feathers colors are pretty confusing

I would assume the green one should have tech related stuffs

But I'm not sure

[warped gulch]

+feathers

[wispy pagoda]

Skill Feathers Classification:

Red Feather: Focus on Move damage Passives.
Pink Feather: Focus on Sync Moves damage Passives.
Blue Feather: Focus on Defensive Passives.

Green Feather: Mix of Red/Pink/Blue with added focus on Status & Interference Passives.
Purple Feather: Mix of Red/Pink/Blue with added focus on Weather passives.
White Feather: Mix of everything with bigger focus on Type Themes but with lesser stats.
Yellow Feather: Mix of everything with no particular focus.

Rainbow Feather: Fixed stats & passives tailor made for a specific pair.

[fluid anvil]

so green/pink?

[warped gulch]

Pink mostly

Do you know reroll trick yet ?

Or i can say get refunded feathers back when get nothing

[fluid anvil]

No. Whats the trick?

[warped gulch]

I just dm you

[cursive linden]

I want to know the trick too

What's the trick?

[fluid anvil]

also Speedy Entry 2 on Melony and the other (gauge) support is worth it, right ?

[warped gulch]

Check dm

[cursive linden]

Thanks

[warped gulch]

Yeah, we have 3 ls slot anyway

[brisk shale]

^

[true locust]

Better use fast track

[vernal condor]

you know that it doesn't work if the move fails right

ah no it works nvm

[true locust]

Some how i test melony hop and holiday jasmine

[vernal condor]

still, that's a lot of animation

[true locust]

And was 6 speed

[fluid anvil]

Fast Track 2 is probably too much extra animation

[deep apex]

Does SE up next stack?

[icy pendant]

no

[safe prawn]

Nope

[acoustic chasm]

I'm going summer marnie
I wonder if Bulk Up spam would work
She has MGR9 + 3

[normal parcel]

Can I know the trick too?

[civic island]

This as an example
Look at the 2nd potion cycle

Is not a tragic buffing like Dana

[tropic abyss]

holy shit i thought the 3rd unit was hala

like im not joking

no way someone made a mod for PMEX that makes hala a pokemon

[warped gulch]

So H Jasmine passive doesn’t consume any times

[tropic abyss]

it was the blue

[warped gulch]

Yeah, i saw Marnie used Play Rough during Jasmine’s passive

[civic island]

Yep

She just keep buffing while other actions happens

Just a tiny bit delay for the passive name to show up

[dry whale]

Wait , I take a day off and now Melony putting in the work and skill gear trick.

I need that info, gonna see if I can push Koga from 816k to the million

[acoustic chasm]

I've been using Jasmine since the very first ST stage with no problems

(Aside from bad SEUN MPR luck)

[gentle locust]

[civic island]

If you need buffs sure she has tools
Not to equal Red but can be pretty amazing
My Diantha team wouldn't have worked the same way w Red

[fluid anvil]

isnt H. Jasmine just a worse Redlax ? or what am I missing ?
I even stopped using redlax now after Melony..

[civic island]

She could be a good alternative for some teams imo
Red supp+sprint (and double adr) is insanely fast and max move can ensure 3 SEnext

[vernal condor]

Yes she's worse but in some specific teams she's better

[safe prawn]

Good morning angel

[gentle locust]

That's actually very real

I woke up like 4hrs ago

Night shift do be like that

And soon gonna head out for part 2

[true locust]

Rei crac 1 m in ranked

Not soo bad

[normal parcel]

Did SC diantha broke 1m in ranked?

[civic island]

Yep
#1255888121648644197 message

[chilly prawn]

Wow I got the miss

That is .1 off 2nd

Move started but did the register

For reference I was at 20 secs remaining when I used the first

It queues play rough missed

And I thought I had it but ended

[normal parcel]

Rosa has an easier time at keeping gauge than melony, but has the akward relic song if you want to sync

Sprint exr however makes a bit for it

[true locust]

Not bad at all:)

[vagrant ivy]

idk what to do

when I only have f2p options for dragon

[true locust]

Why you use wallace?

[cursive linden]

Circle

(Should have been chase tho)

[true locust]

He is frome hoen?

And cyrus no

[vagrant ivy]

I want too much, need support ex and need gauge not to run out

and dragon zone

[true locust]

Or some body who low special defence

Would be way better then wallace

When -6 def he will hit more damage

Wallace dont help him whit it

[vapid kernel]

[cloud timber]

if there even is delay it's not remotely close to troublemaker and for the purposes of the sst red video it was waiting for gauge to refill a lot anyway

i have it always on melony and don't struggle at all with spamming speed when compared to all the other options

she's still fastest (while also not sacrificing a second unit to setup just sync cd)

[vernal condor]

Finally, Fast Track 1 is useful

[covert geyser]

very good score

[fluid anvil]

well I just realized that Speedy Entry 2 requires those LG deluxe silver cookies (silver, not gold) of which i have ZERO of .. so Fast-Track 2 is my only option yeah

[fluid anvil]

New PB with Cynthia.
IIRC its only the second non-Nate score above 1.7M (the other was Lucas)

[covert geyser]

non ranked?

Cause W

[fluid anvil]

non-ranked yeah

Didnt record though

[covert geyser]

Still trying to think of something for ranked that isn't NC Nate

[cloud timber]

ss serena, lucas, ryuki, ss cynthia, cyrus

[icy pendant]

if that is the second 1.7m+ without Nate then this is the third yeah?

did this wild thing called play the game at 1x speed and I got an extra sync out of it

[fluid anvil]

yeah. Havent seen anything else.
Although a 3/5 caked Ryuki should either match or exceed this (?)

[cloud timber]

i would think so ye

[fluid anvil]

did you sync with Rosa ?

[icy pendant]

nope

so once I ex melony that could be a swap to try

[fluid anvil]

this "Rosa cant sync" thing kinda sucks

[icy pendant]

got a sync and a core enforcer off with 0.05s left
core enforcer had no crits

maybe zerena does need to click a dire hit+ once...

[fluid anvil]

using pink feathers for status+sync damage gears is a good idea for DC
I'm now thinking of using these gears + NC Blue + Melony + Renegade Cynthia for Ghost 3v1 .. Chase is out since Cynthias sync is physical .. and blue does -2 def and -2 spdef which helps. You might get away with only 2 shadowballs to max out Smarty-Pants.
Between this and 6-7 syncs and giving yourself SEUNs - should be good

Too bad you need a lot of these gears - for each type / for several common character groups (MC, champion etc.)

[icy pendant]

well if you ignore 985 points to next reward I’m content with this damage range, this was a +8 SMUN Core Enforcer at the end

[vocal prairie]

what does Chase do here?

[icy pendant]

sprint ex/+6 spatk/circle's multiplicative multiplier/team evasion with sleeper tanking

also enough gauge accel to support sing rushing

[vocal prairie]

do you have any idea of a replacement

[icy pendant]

I scored 200k less with nc blue, there's a potential there to optimize further

[thin wren]

Wally fixes that issue. You could also use penny

[rain copper]

I just discovered that he has Discourage 2 and -4 spatk on sync

[thin wren]

-4 special atk om sync is worth

[rain copper]

Yeah he needs to use Fleur Cannon once to activate the B Move anyway

[thin wren]

the meta is evolving. Wow

just backread and sing sync is hitting peaks with the less powerful comps

[vocal prairie]

do you need electric terrain to make sing go faster?

[cloud timber]

paralysis is sufficient

yeah i saw nc rosa failed sing spam doing a lot of work so i tried elio and he works too

and then pykuo found that melony was even faster

[loud cedar]

fairy 3v3 against my fully exr’d fairy trio

my penny doesnt have that extra fairy rebuff down grid tho sadge

[vocal prairie]

can i have mgr on Sing it will it affect the result negatively

[cloud timber]

mgr only works on successful uses

[vocal prairie]

ah

i was running out of gauge a bit

trying Zerena

[cloud timber]

fast track can help but it's not enough on its own

[vocal prairie]

i don't have Chase so I tried Red

[cloud timber]

which does proc on failed uses

[vocal prairie]

i have NC Nate but he's 1/5

so i doubt he'd out damage Zerena

and my strike candy is in very high demand

[loud cedar]

u have candies?

[vocal prairie]

nope

I'm saving them for SS Gladion

and I also have 1/5 NC Bianca

[thin wren]

he would probably

if caked

[cloud timber]

+110k on ss cynthia

going to need two para procs if i want to match skippingmud tho and idk if i wanna grind for that

[chilly prawn]

Decent so far?

[thin wren]

yeh, what do you have for dragon

[chilly prawn]

Something like this

[thin wren]

redlax and nc Bianca used I assume

[chilly prawn]

Yes

[cloud timber]

taking this

[icy pendant]

this looks like it would cook hard

[neat dune]

Any Melony grids specifically for Damage Challenge?

[thin wren]

I still think the sing strat should be called sing sync

it sounds very nice

[chilly prawn]

Any recommendations for the event going to do regular after

Have no experience with the dragon fight

[cloud timber]

most of what you want is here lol

[chilly prawn]

I can get 200-250k + on each of my clears with perfect luck

[thin wren]

for regular use Bianca colress and nc Nate

[cloud timber]

there are times where you'll need team sharp entry and times where you could need the bottom left stuff

[neat dune]

Thanks!

[thin wren]

maybe vigilance?do crits take more time?

[cloud timber]

and i have racing rain planned for my water team

nah

[thin wren]

ok then nvm

[chilly prawn]

Is there a good way to get sup effec on nate?

[cloud timber]

team sharp entry will consume time though so it's best to leave it off by default and grid it when you need it

[grave forum]

I can only make it to 500k with this team What was i doing wrong.

[thin wren]

ranked?

[icy pendant]

regardless if you’re trying to spam with Rosa that’s going to be slow because there’s no status condition other than sleep in that team

[clever wasp]

Think this will be the well I hit

[cloud timber]

there's videos that you can follow if you check the clear sheet in the pins

[chilly prawn]

Meh

[sacred badger]

Definitely needs a retry o.o unless thats ranked xd

[chilly prawn]

Ranked

Having problems busting 1 mil

[plush palm]

even in ranked im shocked that ots so low

def double check your gear

[raven saffron]

How many syncs did you get in?

[golden tiger]

Easy 500k some mistakes but I'm already pretty pissed that it took OVER 20 tries to get one para off red body slam and one X Sp ATK refresh on ssa cynthia

(i have HE1 on red if anyone is asking ^)

[plush palm]

I was hitting 1m just fine w/ barry intead of rosa in normal unranked btw

youre better off w/ barry or colress than using body slam

[cloud timber]

ss cynthia has ramp up on her grid expansion so idk why you'd want x spa mpr

[loud cedar]

damnn

[golden tiger]

I didn't see ramp up ngl

I just hit 500k but lets see

Idt ill ever reach 1m tho

[cloud timber]

all good, now that's less rng you have to put up with

[golden tiger]

mmmm ty

i hit 744k with no red tm refreshes

ill just go for one run with that and call it wraps for the event

[acoustic heath]

Wait, how does this work?

[golden tiger]

one sync didn't crit

good enough for me though was expecting way lower pts

[warped gulch]

@rain copper debuff condition sucks, and burn too

[loud cedar]

ig i have to prepare for st psychic

will olympia suffice

[thin wren]

no 1 mil ss Leon yet huh

[thin wren]

probably

[loud cedar]

jacq will be the best right?

[thin wren]

redlax, olympia and nc rosa could probably get 1 mil

Yes

by far

[loud cedar]

how about ss steven

[thin wren]

Idt his nuke is very good st for a tech but lemme recheck

[rain copper]

it's still impressive that he made that far

[loud cedar]

oh he has furious brain

and soften up

and hs1 if 5/5

[thin wren]

olympia still nukes harder

[loud cedar]

i guess s

[thin wren]

and has an easier way of setting up rising tide

[warped gulch]

SS Leon can hit 1m

Alt Leon in the other hand

[thin wren]

meant alt Leon my bad

will anni may be second best option in psychic st

[pallid girder]

Alt Leon can hit 1M with the right teammates.
https://youtu.be/7LjYodCL630?si=kjoPI-Qm7dHbMaLX&t=726

[warped gulch]

Maybe next month i’ll cake Red

[pallid girder]

I think SC Steven is more the key. He max Power Play w 3 BLear.

[warped gulch]

Yup, but bc my Red isn’t caked i didn’t him much

Also Tm mpr suck

Next month i might cake him

[rain copper]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[warped gulch]

But SS Lyra with Field

[rain copper]

dw i haven't caked mine

[warped gulch]

Also Dragon/Ground HS is coming

Alt Leon might have cake

[rain copper]

Lucas

[warped gulch]

Anni Raihan too

[rain copper]

Raihan is Field or bust

[pallid girder]

I'm waiting for support/field Ingo

[warped gulch]

I want give him cake so bad

[pallid girder]

I hope they won't make Ingo support/striker to meme with striker/support Emmet.

Like they did with NC Serena & NC Calem.

[true locust]

Lol 5/5🥸

[warped gulch]

He is my 2nd limited pair tho

[true locust]

I see pykuo next hse again top20..😛🧐

[warped gulch]

SS Serena is my 1st one

[warped gulch]

Fk

He missed crit

[vagrant ivy]

cyrus still best f2p option for non ranked dragon 3v3 dc?

[warped gulch]

Yes

[rain copper]

clearly skill issue /s

[loud cedar]

ooo cool clear with alt leon

[pallid girder]

Tmr we'll see if Dena want to mess with us and introduce a new DC meta enabler or not

[normal parcel]

Meanwhile Dena releasing an unit with 15 different passive, and a b move that takes 3 minutes to fully execute

[warped gulch]

I’ll take my 700k

With Trap/Weather nuker

[thin wren]

imagine if hassel ends up being op for dragon dc but releases after it ends

[pallid girder]

I'm more thinking about enablers like SC Steven or Red so it won't matter if it's ontype stage just pass.

[thin wren]

0 gauge no passive pop up sing unit when

with support sprint

and omni aoe rebuff

[acoustic heath]

Feel like I’m using NC Bianca the wrong way

[thin wren]

wdym

[acoustic heath]

I see high scores made with her

[thin wren]

against what stage with what comp

and how much difference

[pallid girder]

Oh it's Fighting ranked and she's also a main dd. nvm.

[acoustic heath]

I don’t I have a better main damager

[vernal condor]

Gakon will be updating the doc for a few days instead of me as I wont be able to 🙏

[rain copper]

Just don't ping me while I'm sleeping, there is 100% i won't read until i wake up

[thin wren]

what time is it for you

[rain copper]

GMT+7 but my sleep schedule is random

[normal parcel]

How much you are scoring?

[icy pendant]

https://youtu.be/KTwVkidaW10 in case you haven’t seen it yet

[normal parcel]

I think elio works Better than corless just grid numbling blow on Cynthia (but not the confusion one) you really want that extra support ex sync, just grid defense destroyer on bianca, elio can buff attack so berserker 2 isn't needed for bianca, I think with exr Cynthia you can go elio > bianca > bianca > Cynthia > bianca > bianca syncs

[acoustic heath]

Very poorly

[normal parcel]

Pick extension on bianca, you don't want to use circle twice, it wastes a lot of time

Just make sure 1st vacuum wave paralyzes

Ofc if your bianca/Cynthia aren't Rolex don't expect really high scores

With both Rolex aura Cynthia team can score about 800k

[acoustic heath]

Is potion spam a new thing?

[warped gulch]

You only use it at full HP

[normal parcel]

Potion at full hp was always a thing

[warped gulch]

Bc if that you cant get mpr too

[acoustic heath]

I haven’t cake Cynthia for sprint

[warped gulch]

So it is mostly used very early to save time

[normal parcel]

Without cake you will probably lose a sync, but maybe with extra dodges/para you can still do it

I know for sure that NC rosa Rolex + bianca 3/5 Rolex + holiday jasmine 3/5 ex can get 1m in ranked

And I know that Rolex Cynthia + elio ex or NC Rosa Rolex can get around 800k

[acoustic heath]

I do have NC Rosa

[normal parcel]

Maybe the NC Rosa + Cynthia can score more without charging infliction, Cynthia doesn't have catalyst, but has bawling acceleration so maybe you can keep up with gauges, considering aura Cynthia is faster than Jasmine

[normal parcel]

She's Rolex?

I guess she could work even non Rolex, just don't sync with her

Not syncing with Rosa will probably also probably save enough time to offset lack of sprit ex for Cynthia

However Rosa really wants jasmine, because Cynthia can't buff bianca attack, and bianca doesn't have enough energy to pick berserker 2

With Cynthia I still think elio is probably the better option

Don't know what's the highest score recorded so far in ranked with bianca as the main damage dealer

[fluid anvil]

How do you apply triple Fighting Rebuffs with NC Rosa?
Do you have to let her sync, change into Fighting forme and then use Teeter Dance? That the way? Teeter Dance is kinda bad in DC, but it should still be better then using her B-move, right ?

and how is it done for Psychic? Do you need to use Sing individually on each opponent once to apply it - It will apply psychic rebuff even if Sing fails?
(dont have NC rosa, so I'm not sure on her mechanics in DC)

[vernal condor]

The first usage of a psychic or fighting move will apply the rebuff of said type to that opponent

[acoustic heath]

Yes

[vernal condor]

But only the first move, so if you sing you can only apply psychic on 1 opp

Usually you'd just relic song

[normal parcel]

I applied the fighting rebuff, just sync with her and revert to aria with relic song (this will apply rebuff) and you keep singing

[fluid anvil]

Well yeah but I mean - what is the best/fastest way to do it in DC ?
You basically HAVE to do the relic song then? Waste time to get the rebuffs ? I guess its worth.

[vernal condor]

For fighting the best way is to sync with her and relic song once

For psychic, either it's 3v3 and well same, or 1v3 and you just sing

[fluid anvil]

I was wondering if you could do it without ever using b-move, but i guess not (for 3v3)

[normal parcel]

The fastest way will be to not sync and not apply the rebuff, but if it doesn't net you an extra sync you should apply it

[vernal condor]

If you dont rebuff with rosa you might as well use melony

[normal parcel]

However the extra damage from support ex and the extra rebuff adds up, and sprint exr helps counteracting the loss of time

[fluid anvil]

So basically you either get ~6 syncs, but all with rebuffs
Or 7 syncs without rebuffs

[normal parcel]

Rosa is faster and unova

She can get +2 team speed with tm

[vernal condor]

Fast Track exists

[normal parcel]

Fast track adds animations

[warped gulch]

Also Melony can Sync

[vernal condor]

Not much if you run fast Track 1

[fluid anvil]

She is faster but if you're not syncing with her then you lose the extra Support EX (while also not getting the rebuff). Not worth it probably
And speed/gauge can be solved
I just assume losing 1 sync, but getting rebuffs is always worth it in Psychic/Fighting 3v3

Fast-Track 1 is better than Fast-Track 2 ..?

[vernal condor]

It activates less

[normal parcel]

But still Rosa is much faster

[vernal condor]

Doesnt change the fact she cant sync

[normal parcel]

If Rolex she can

At least in my run I synced with her

[thin wren]

the 10 second loss is worth the sync buff

usually melony is better tho unless you are:
Unova circle unit
Psychic or fighting unit
melony ain't fast enough for you

[vocal prairie]

i bet DeNa didn't expect this meta

wonder if they will just go with it or try to kill it by giving enemy team speed

[normal parcel]

Yes I was talking about bianca specifically, but I guess for other units melony could be better unless she can't keep with gauges

[fluid anvil]

Support + Sprint
100% AoE paralysis
Sing
Speed buffs
gives SEUNs
maybe throw in SC steven weakness rebuff too, but make it AoE

the ultimate DC bait pair

[pallid girder]

In the past if one unit has both paralysis and sleep, we'll prob think it's a joke unit lmao

[raven saffron]

They probably won't release a DC bait pair any time soon

Considering it took them almost 6 months to release a sprint field

[normal parcel]

Not that hypnosis is viable in dc

[vernal condor]

#character-concept-crafting message

[fluid anvil]

hypnosis animation is slower than sing?

[warped gulch]

They are the same when failing

[fluid anvil]

Wait then why arent we using Agatha? she has 60% (single-taregt) paralysis + hypnosis and a TM with +6 speed

[warped gulch]

2 bar

[fluid anvil]

ooh

[warped gulch]

Also no EX Supp

[fluid anvil]

no EX supp could be acceptable if you compress paralysis + sleep unit into 1. But yeah 2 bars is rough

[warped gulch]

Hypnosis has 75% accurate tho

Btw she has total +15 Accuracy for Hypnosis

And Pinpoint Entry 1

[fluid anvil]

does accuracy matter that much? missed sleep is nearly the same as failed sleep

[warped gulch]

Kinda

But if you grid her she can get 90% Hypnosis + Pinpoint Entry 1

[fluid anvil]

Melony only has 60 accuracy, doesnt seem to be a problem.
But 2 bar spam sounds unusable

[warped gulch]

Yup

But you can test with Chase tho

Or any fast gauge

[fluid anvil]

well if you still have to bring a unit just to give her gauge - that defeats the purpose of compression.
Ideally you want 1 unit to fully handle para AND sleep move AND gauge
and the other one just to boost the nukers damage somehow (WZT or rebuffs etc.)

Actually she is kanto, so she would boost Chases circle by 0.1. But 2 bars is still too much

[warped gulch]

That why we thought about Agatha/NC Leaf/Chase

But ehh

2 bar is still too much

[normal parcel]

Hypnosis is 2 gauges

Without charging infliction 2/twofer/infliction freebie there's no way to spam it

[fluid anvil]

Agatha/NC Leaf/Chase would be perfect .. if it was sing instead of hypnosis. Yes 2 bars is too much

[normal parcel]

I mean if you want to use Agatha as your damage dealer for ghost weak, you need to land hypnosis

Or sing

[fluid anvil]

Agatha has no damage

[normal parcel]

Her nuke isn't that bad

[warped gulch]

Aslo that team was discussed for NC Leaf

[normal parcel]

At least compared to other f2p ghost

[warped gulch]

And need sleep = cant spam Sync

So she just worse than Morty

[warped gulch]

She has fk mega Sync

Throw her away

[fluid anvil]

NC leaf-Chase is gonna be a good combo .. x1.3 circle
with Melony

[lapis yarrow]

@warped gulch who will you be trying out for psychic dc?

[warped gulch]

Rn is V Elio

[normal parcel]

She has 527 base sp attack if 6ex mega

[warped gulch]

And only has 2 Sync multiplier

While mega Sync

[normal parcel]

I mean what are the other f2p options? Allister?

[warped gulch]

Morty still be the best

Like you try to spam Sync with sleep multiplier pair ?

[normal parcel]

Allister has 389 base sp attack

[pallid girder]

Agatha also needs a full offensive support.

[fluid anvil]

what is the fastest/most efficient way to get -6 for all her debuffs with nc leaf? How many leers and how many B-moves do you do?
3 leers + 1 b-move?

[normal parcel]

That's the main issue, however if the opponent moves are particularly slow and problematic, sleep may be viable

Sing will still be fast while the opponent is asleep

[chilly prawn]

Having dc and ranked up at same time so confusing lol

[warped gulch]

Never work like that

Enemy always wake up every sleep cycle

That means sleep -> fail -> sleep -> fail -> sleep

[normal parcel]

I think you can land more than 1 sing per sleep

Expecially if is melony

[thin wren]

ehhhh

[normal parcel]

I think with melony will probably be something like sing fail fail fail sing

[thin wren]

sing animation is kinda long

so failing always is the only way to have truly fast syncs

[normal parcel]

Enemy attacks are kinda slow too

[warped gulch]

Oh you talked about none perfect sleep accurate

[normal parcel]

Yes you can still miss a lot with sing

[warped gulch]

Bc with Melony she can queue like 3-4 fail Sing before enemy wake up

[thin wren]

melony has acc up right?

precision pals on tm

[warped gulch]

But if you use Agatha and grid perfect accuracy sleep, enemy will almost wake up every cycle

[thin wren]

and sing accc

[normal parcel]

Yes but not enough to ensure accuracy on sing

You need +4 accuracy to get melony sing to 100%

But I guess Agatha can hypnosis just before sync

Probably Morty will still be more reliable

Allister on the other hand has poison that is bad, but also saves you a slot for paralysis

Problem is that allister has bad sync multiplier and not so high special attack

[thin wren]

is restrain bad

[pallid girder]

My guess is Allister would be good for ppl who has SCSteven. You apply restrain by SCSteven and save max move dmg latter.

[warped gulch]

Sleep alone only gives total 4 Syncs

And that with evasion do dodge some move

[normal parcel]

Restrain isn't bad but poison kinda is

I mean poison has the advantage of blocking sleep so I guess is something

[random cedar]

We will be using her for Fire ST 😎

[normal parcel]

Problem with allister is that only has virulent toxin 5

And the tech innate

[normal parcel]

Did some calcs and among the f2p options (on paper) Agatha should nuke the hardest (if you can deal with sleep) allister is close (but poison I gues is a bit better and it can do a bit of damage with his max move plus his 1st sync should be super effective up) morty is 3rd but can go with para strats (plus it has evasion)

The best option will probably be renegade Cynthia or SS korinna

[safe prawn]

Mmmh korinna might be better bc of colress but Cynthia has her own zone…

[fluid anvil]

Cynthia will be the best for Ghost 3v1 no contest. Zone + can give her syncs 2 SEUNs. She also has 150% sync multipliers vs Korrinas 120% (Rising Tide)
I will try running Cynthia - Melony - ncblue (her sync is physical, so Chase is not that good here)

Korrina has evasion buffs and support role, but thats not enough to beat Cynthia

[sturdy pebble]

I might be screwed for Ghost 3v1

[fluid anvil]

Why Colress, Screech def drops ? Cynthias sync is physical too, its the same for her.
Also Melony should be faster than Colress now

[safe prawn]

Double rising tide is easy setup btw

For korinna

Smarty pants is a pita to max

[fluid anvil]

Korrina has 1 rising tide, not 2. Her innate is "This attack’s power increases when none of the target’s stats are raised."
Smarty pants can be done in 3 shadowballs (with great rng) and if you use ncblue sync - you will only need -4 Spdef (=2 shadowballs with good rng)
Korrinas self-buffs is also longer and she would need to attack once with Spectral Thief to steal the buffs (it has long animation)

Does the datamine show which TM/which stats will Silver buff on the Ghost 3v1 stage?

[normal parcel]

Korinna can afford the horse while Cynthia needs something like classic elesa to debuff

[fluid anvil]

btw Fall Allister (double ghost rebuff) has paralysis too lol, at 3/5

[normal parcel]

Good thing about classic Elesa is that paralyzes

[fluid anvil]

Cynthia debuffs it herself, 3-4 shadowballs (less with nc blue)
her smarty-pants is a pain for 3v3, for for 3v1 its really not that bad

[normal parcel]

But shadowball is really slow and not even guaranteed to debuffs (expecially physical defense)

[fluid anvil]

Its normal speed, not like its a buddy move. Not guaranteed = just get good rng
classic elesa might be an option though, forgot she had paralysis

Spectral Thief animation - now that is long, buddy move tier

[normal parcel]

Horse has haze

No need to spectral thief

[fluid anvil]

what is horse?

[normal parcel]

Victor

[fluid anvil]

f2p victor? why?
Victor + Korrina + what, Colress?
Thats a lot less syncs than Melony

[normal parcel]

Victor has zone

I was thinking about barry, since victor can -2 defense with max move

[fluid anvil]

you need to give victor a sync (no support EX) and even with extension it wont last until the very end

[normal parcel]

Generally field ex lasts the whole battle if you sync after support ex

With Morty Barry + victor used to be the optimal strategy (but I guess was before melony shenanigans)

However with melony who will be te optimal team for Cynthia/korinna?

Considering that shadow ball is 3 gauge and with melony gauges matters

[fluid anvil]

ncblue + Melony seems like the best for a physical nuker for Melony strat

his 20% sync boost works on physical syncs. And he does -2def (and -2spdef) on sync

and of course speed for melony

[normal parcel]

Why NC blue should be better for physical while is a special support?

[fluid anvil]

shadowball is 3 gauge but also while its attacking you get animation time to regen gauge, so its fine.
Either way ncblue gives you +6 team speed

[fluid anvil]

Because paralysis and speed are requirements for Melony to even work. And he can debuff -2 def
Who else would be better except nc blue ? (except maybe fall allister 3/5)

Fall allister has -2 rebuff and paralysis, but aside from that he does nothing

[icy pendant]

Fallister has no speed right? Also Revenge Boost 9 so he wants to be second tactic

[fluid anvil]

Melony is always your main tank

first target*

[normal parcel]

I meant why you said that NC blue helps more physical nukers while his kit is tailored more to work with special units? (It still works with physical units however)

Not saying that NC blue doesn't work for physical, I'm just saying that at best it works the same

NC blue definitely helps because -2 def and spdef definitely helps setting up Cynthia's nuke

[fluid anvil]

He's not tailored for physical, I just think he is the best ~general para/gauge support for Melony if the sync is physical (if its special - then Chase is best)
not any paralysis pair is optimal with Melony - not all provide enough gauge/not all are supports etc.

classic elesa for example has 0 speed buffs

[normal parcel]

Ah was missing the comparison with chase

Classic elesa also lacks support ex

Is more that she's needed when you need the debuffs and your unit can't really get them

If you need spdef and paralysis I guess SS Brendan could work too

But doesn't really helps with speed

There's also the NC Rosa variant, but you hide to relic song once if you want to sync with her

However she has speed buffs and much higher base speed than melony

Sprint exr partially helps with the time lost for relic song

I guess if you need the pmun/smun stacks for the finisher, she can be viable

Not saying she works for ghost

However Cynthia can recharge gauge while using shadow force before the enemy syncs

[fluid anvil]

NC rosa + F.allister + Cynthia might be the best option if you can make it work
you get two rebuffs + zone + 2 SEUNS + sing spam all at once. Shadowballs to max out Smarty-Pants will slow you down, but its probably worth it since the syncs would be very powerful
with Korrina you get evasion and support role, but lose zone and SEUNs .. and you will also have to use Spectral Thief once (this is as slow as 2+ shadowballs)
I dont have NC rosa though and not giving F.allister any candies

[normal parcel]

Don't have fallister and both my korinna and Cynthia are 1/5

[fluid anvil]

Cynthia and Korrina will most likely be the only ones that will break 1M in Ghost 3v1
SC Irida - big maybe, I would bet no

f2p 1 Mil - no shot

[pallid girder]

Iirc SC Irida only do 1.9M at most in 3v3. 1.9/3 is really not close to 1M.

[devout pelican]

So next week is ST Psychic and MT Dark. I guess Lucian and OG Karen then

[dense citrus]

Finally!

[icy pendant]

she did nearly 2.4 for me so there's a chance I see 1m single target

[thin wren]

I hope fall Hilbert can do something in mg dark

[devout pelican]

I kinda doubt it. Does he even have any good multipliers?

[thin wren]

My dark zoners are calem, cyrus and Selene

haymaker

[true locust]

Its on ranked?

[dense citrus]

yup

[pallid girder]

Cool! Didn't know she can score that high.

[true locust]

How many b move you use times?

[thin wren]

can Cyrus dark void sync spam....?

[thin wren]

rosa sing sync? where did you get the other status

[crude sandal]

Has anyone ever tested Dark Void spam with a status active?

[pallid girder]

No. He has debuff attached to his sleep move, even when it fails.

[thin wren]

sad

might just go nc rosa redlax Hilbert

[dense citrus]

Which other status? Btw ye rosa sync and then sing spam

[thin wren]

wait 2.2 mil in ranked?

[thin wren]

sing needs to fail usually to properly spam

[warped gulch]

Sleep to stop enemy move

You can look their Hp

[thin wren]

that's enough to give enough syncs (to recharge b moves) for that high amount of score?

[true locust]

Wat grid did you use on nate?

[thin wren]

didn't know Nate could get so high in ranked

[thin wren]

send ls as well pls

also did you have op gear?

[dense citrus]

Not exactly spam sorry ^^" but ye just stall

[dense citrus]

Super powered 3 and.. head starts..? (The ones at the start of battle kinda forgot which is which

[thin wren]

did you have 40% sync damage gear

[dense citrus]

Naah haha I wish

[thin wren]

wth

[dense citrus]

Looking at it now.. bandana is wrong one too

[thin wren]

you have massive skill

.....

[icy pendant]

that bracelet holy

[dense citrus]

.. I think?

[thin wren]

so 15%.....

that's not a lot

[dense citrus]

Ye was meant to use this instead

[thin wren]

....

what

how many b moves or syncs?

[dense citrus]

Really don't feel like trying again tho at this point.. took hours around 3 days..

[dense citrus]

3B iir?

Rosa sync.. Nate sync.. Nate b.. Steven sync.. Nate b.. Nate sync.. Nate b

[thin wren]

Only 3?

oh wait all tms are used

that means each b had 6+ pmum right?

[dense citrus]

Nop

Mostly +9 / 10

[thin wren]

ah , that explains it

yeah makes sense now

[dense citrus]

I don't even know at this point how last B had +9 Super effective up..

[thin wren]

460% Nate b moves with seun and d zone

and 1.5 x total damage

with syncs dealing 50k

[tribal flax]

gear base stats need to revamp, like each 10 try increase the gear mininum to base + 1 (For example minimum for speed is 10-30? so each 10 times increase it to 11)

coz we cant lock the stat only, skill

[amber moon]

Any of these units good for ranked damage challenge?

Vs hop

Maybe brawly?

[dense citrus]

Or.. they could at least raise the base ceiling for higher rarity feathers ( say for example.. 20~30 rather than 10~30 for 2* feathers

[raven saffron]

Bea has a pretty easy nuke to setup

[pallid girder]

You joined too late when grabbing Riley? He's the best option among the f2p but NEED 3/5 EX.

[icy pendant]

doesn't even need ex necessarily, just access to full grid which is unfortunately lacking in the above screenshot

[surreal venture]

Which helps give more damage: -1 Rebuff or a Zone?

[safe prawn]

Zone

2 rebuffs = zone

[icy pendant]

zone unless you have to sit through long animation times to set it

[feral hamlet]

What's the strat for this? I have Serena Role EX

[thin wren]

Nate

[feral hamlet]

Oh, unironically huh

[icy pendant]

ss serena rolex can hit 1.75 with a peak team but nate's ceiling is more than double that

[merry nymph]

finally the recognition he deserves

[feral hamlet]

My best with Serena is 430k

[pallid girder]

NCNate always has better burst dmg than Zerena. Ppl just like to overemphasize his Scale Shot being bad in SUPER long battle, which we only have UBs fit in the category.
He's not even bad in LG when he solos half of them.

[feral hamlet]

I meant more that Nate was always a meme. I don't even have him so I don't know what he does

[warped gulch]

You just need to know that he has stronger Sync than Serena, has Dragon Zone by himself with cake and has really high dmg B Move

[feral hamlet]

So what's the strat with Serena? I got 300k with Lucas setting Dragon Zone, so that doesn't seem to be the play

[thin wren]

what's the suprise? he's literally burst damage: the unit and compresses almost everything into 1 slot

[icy pendant]

sing rushing + paralyzer

https://youtu.be/KTwVkidaW10 this is currently the highest scoring team on the doc without NC Nate and optimally it actually wants Melony instead of Rosa so that the singer can sync, it still gives you a feel for what the strats are

[feral hamlet]

Oh, no Chase though

[icy pendant]

I think NC Blue can get close to this, probably a similar ceiling

I lose a bunch of time to setting an extra circle with Chase, at 3/5 I can probably fit in an entire extra sync move

[safe prawn]

Btw field ex stuff is really broken in 3v3 (strike) or 1v3 (tech) bc they setup without animation and lasts long enough for the fight

[icy pendant]

and then there's sst red who with rolex syncs and provides et for two whole dc battles

[dry whale]

This was with decent dodge luck. I'm now thinking with specifically design poison skill gear , I can potentially push it to the million.

[thin wren]

skinny got 2.4 mil iirc

[safe prawn]

The forbidden 3v1 electric

Where he will be affording ScSteven for skyrocketing dmg

[thin wren]

dc with 1 unit limitation

would be funny

[icy pendant]

not on the doc and not uploaded so do we have any confirmation of this?

[thin wren]

community post

[feral hamlet]

I can't get more than 300k subbing out Chase with Red. Is even 500k possible with Serena lol?

[icy pendant]

yeah for us mere mortals I think we can hit 2m but 2.5 feels egregious

[thin wren]

oh my bad it's 2.5 mil

pretty sure skinny has 50% sync gear

[icy pendant]

I'll try and hit 2 I guess but my skill gear is... bad

[warped gulch]

Skinny gears is insane yeah

[thin wren]

smth just get lucky

or use the refund strat

[warped gulch]

You’ll need Pin tho

and time

I think his gears has Sync dmg increase with WTZ and para tho

[crude sandal]

I'm wondering how Cerena will work for ST water and dark

[icy pendant]

oh I don't think she's working for dark

[crude sandal]

Is that right?

[warped gulch]

That maybe why Skinny used SST Red instead of Blue or Chase when they are clearly better

[thin wren]

get better rng lol

[warped gulch]

[thin wren]

Luck harder

[warped gulch]

Do you know how many time i spent to reroll gears just for Dark/Ghost Hs ?

[rain copper]

Just don't get *luck issue

[warped gulch]

[rain copper]

[thin wren]

idk

[warped gulch]

Just for stat

Not even passive

[thin wren]

took me 20 minutes for 30% skill gear

[warped gulch]

[rain copper]

5 hours at least

[thin wren]

I had 12 pins saved tho

[warped gulch]

6-7 days

[thin wren]

Luck harder

[warped gulch]

[thin wren]

let the heart of the gacha guide you

we are gacha players. Rng is our blood. Gambling is our soul

[warped gulch]

Pls dont joke about that pls, i’m feel very bad bc of that

[thin wren]

Oh

sorry

[icy pendant]

ok yeah I can equal skinny's 2.5 if I had comparable skill gear, I have no relevant passives though. needs 1 paralysis but if I get that then I pull up to 1.6 with time for a core enforcer, more damage on sync would help a ton to close that

[acoustic heath]

Gotta Gotcha em’all

[normal parcel]

Was thinking that maybe in a Geeta team koga will sync harder but it will be more RNG based because of 80% crit and bad mpr from geeta tm

However if she buffs koga she can't land a +10 bmove as a finisher

[eternal pecan]

Not the best but I’ll take it lol

[inner parcel]

If i am using melony am not to use troublemaker 1 right?

[normal parcel]

Never use troublemaker in dc

[dry whale]

WTZ change s move + 3 is that affected by for example Kanto Circle?

[inner parcel]

At this point am really not sure of why i aint getting higher scores

[icy pendant]

Can you record? Seems like something is missing yeah

[plush palm]

do you have keldeo

[inner parcel]

My phone cant handle a recorder on the game

[olive panther]

would nc bianca or rei be a better sync nuker for the damage challenge? (Both are at 3/5)

[icy pendant]

Rei - Bianca doesn’t exactly have a sync

[olive panther]

those are currently my only limited fighting units though

[icy pendant]

I’m saying use Rei because syncing with Bianca is a bit harder (not impossible)

[olive panther]

ohh, I misunderstood. ty

[icy pendant]

together the two score 1 million but it’s not free

[olive panther]

I assume for that clear it's using nc bianca to lower rebuff/ defense and then sing spam with no actions from rei?

[icy pendant]

It's actually using paralysis spam, there's no second status to make sing spam worthwhile

[olive panther]

ah ok, I'll use bp Barry over nc rosa then

thanks again for the help

[loud cedar]

wait skinny got 2.5mil with zerena wtf

[icy pendant]

cracked skill gears though, that's the problem

[loud cedar]

yeah i tried it replicating it suboptimally (non ex melony and shit skill gears) and i got 1mil LMAO

time to slave away at skill gears

[icy pendant]

I could tie my best score with that team with a para proc, the nice thing about Chase is no para proc is needed

[safe prawn]

Gears is what is allowing ppl to do 2.5 to 3.4 mln with Chop

The fight is linear, but the 35/40% on gears makes the dmg difference

[dry whale]

Changed the approach and yeah, Circle ran out before that final sync

[rapid sparrow]

Not all heroes wear capes

Some wear batmask

[loud cedar]

i have 9% combined from my skill gears 💀

and one of them needs red to flinch for 4% more sync damage!

[limber onyx]

Who should I use?

I already used Corless and Barry though.

[plain cedar]

could Sidney work for single target Dark when it comes around?

thinking something like this for grid

already got +10 energy on him so not a worry

[versed shale]

Likely, his nuke is strong if you can keep up confusion

[plain cedar]

I mean if it resets I can instantly give it back

[versed shale]

Takes like 3 seconds tho

[plain cedar]

True

also can maybe land confusion damage?

[thick holly]

oh god i am not prepared for gladio

[plain cedar]

Sidney has Stop Hitting Yourself 5 so….

also since I’m thinking this

does anyone inflict paralysis AND lower speed

[umbral sleet]

Conditions:

1: 3* Min Rarity | All Pairs (Limited Included) | Speed Down
2: Paralysis‎

------------------------------

Barry & Roserade
‎　⤷Stun Spore
‎　⤷Shocking Slowdown 9
Elesa (Classic) & Emolga
‎　⤷Thunder Shock, Nuzzle
‎　⤷Shock Factor 9, Shock Factor 1
Ghetsis & Kyurem
‎　⤷Glaciate, Dragon Breath
Jasmine & Magnemite
‎　⤷Thunder Shock
‎　⤷Shocking Slowdown 9
Lt. Surge & Electrode
‎　⤷Thunderbolt
‎　⤷Trip Up 9, Static Cling 2
Nemona & Pawmot
‎　⤷Thunder Punch
‎　⤷Trip Up 9
Petey (Poké Kid) & Pikachu
‎　⤷Electroweb, Discharge
Professor Oak & Mew
‎　⤷Thunder
‎　⤷Unfortuitous 9
Serena (Palentine's 2021) & Whimsicott
‎　⤷Cotton Spore, Stun Spore
Sophocles & Togedemaru
‎　⤷Nuzzle
‎　⤷Zing Zap: Trip Up 2, Zing Zap: Trip Up 4

‎

Sygna Suit Hilbert & Genesect
‎　⤷Super Slowering Hit 9, Static Brush 9
Sygna Suit N & Kyurem
‎　⤷Resonating Noble Roar, Freeze Shock
Sygna Suit Red (Thunderbolt) & Pikachu
‎　⤷Thunder Shock, G-Max Volt Crash, G-Max Volt Crash
‎　⤷Shocking Slowdown 9
Viola (Holiday 2023) & Vivillon
‎　⤷Frozen Butterfly Stun Spore
‎　⤷Shocking Slowdown 9
Volkner & Raichu
‎　⤷Discharge
‎　⤷Unfortuitous 9, Static Cling 2
Wally & Altaria
‎　⤷Dragon Breath
‎　⤷Trip Up 9

[versed shale]

Probably not worth it, the Speed debuff animation is too long

[plain cedar]

ah

[cloud timber]

olympia has starting evasion and twofer 2 on calm mind but it's still difficult to have enough gauge even with larry's +spe all and mga

but if you're going to settle for 2 bars she's ideal

and it's not unusable if people were venom drench spamming with non-twofer oleana

lodge n also has the same thing but no evasion and charging infliction 1 makes it strictly slower than bp barry

while still consuming gauge

[vernal condor]

The only one that does it well is ma girl

2021 unit meta in 2024 trust

[dry whale]

It is done , Koga Syncs 5 times. 1 million has been achieved.

This was comfortable with no speed issues with Melony. Miss luck , crit luck and skill gear required.

[latent plover]

Nice. Maybe I'll try that to increase my rank a little more

[random cedar]

Do you think NY Lisia will be good for Fairy 3v3 or SS Gladion is straight up better?

Talking about Super Syncer

[glossy atlas]

gladion absolutely demolishes fairy 3v3

[random cedar]

Oh well

[glossy atlas]

although lisia isnt a bad 2nd option

[random cedar]

Nah, I thought of candying her if she could be possibly better

But if not then I'm fine with keeping her at 1/5

[cloud timber]

master fair + power creep

can't expect a 2023 holiday unit to outperform

[civic island]

Nukes are kinda equal
Ny Lisia sure free you from having to apply SEnext
But Gladion got sprint role and a stupid powerful finisher move

[versed shale]

Maybe if you don’t have the ability/time to debuff SpAtk Lisia could be advantageous?

[icy pendant]

I feel like that'll be more an ability thing, I could see SS Wally getting run alongside him and eating a sync so he handles the spatk debuffing

[warped gulch]

SS Wally should help him yeah

Zone, -4 SpA aoe, rebuff, Sprint + Adrenaline 2 (HS2 after mega)

[random cedar]

Ss Wally is an obvious teammate for either tbh

[civic island]

Double sprint role, zone n rebuff is going to be insanely good

[icy pendant]

the duo seems like they're just a para + sing user away from being absolutely cracked

[pallid girder]

Good to see this! I'm prob gonna use this same core for Lear in the upcoming Psychic 3v1.

[umbral sleet]

Conditions:

1: 3* Min Rarity | All Pairs (Limited Included) | Paralysis
2: Sleep‎

------------------------------

Agatha & Gengar
‎　⤷Lick, Hypnosis
Ball Guy & Amoonguss
‎　⤷Destructive Touch 9

[versed shale]

Ah i forgot to include eggmons

[civic island]

Why not trch vileplume

[versed shale]

#bot-zone message

[civic island]

Gladion is fast, wally is fast, wally team speed entry + whimsical accel 2

If Vileplume has enough could be a nice solution

[versed shale]

Agatha is also fast I suppose

[civic island]

True, even better

[versed shale]

She only has 60% para rate on lick tho

[civic island]

Not a problem, you need 1

[versed shale]

But to dc hardcore people that’s nothing, and you can reset T1 anyway

[civic island]

Yeah

So really fel like that will be a cracked team

Agatha ssGladion ssWally

~~ imagine having ssWally ~~

[warped gulch]

I’m so ready for it

[icy pendant]

because I don't have it

[warped gulch]

[versed shale]

Fairy triple is aug 16

[civic island]

Noiice looks like a good 4M+
If youngot gladion also

[icy pendant]

also wait vileplume is 2 gauge isn't it

[civic island]

Yeah

[pallid girder]

Today we'll know if something change the DC meta for Aug

[civic island]

And no speed buff

[civic island]

Omnirebuff w para and sleep

[cloud timber]

don't think agatha or tech vileplume will be outperforming bp barry anytime soon

esp without support ex

[icy pendant]

imagine if they do compress the para + sing slots into 1 though

[civic island]

Yeah, also it will be a single situation, i don't think we have something good and fast as ssgladion

[warped gulch]

Or just use Barry without grid

[civic island]

Oh guess who it is Nate

[warped gulch]

If you use pair that have sleep and para

And those have 2 bar anyway

[cloud timber]

yea gridless barry would outclass

[warped gulch]

Just use BP Barry or Colress without grid anyway

[cloud timber]

but also people are not realizing how rough it is to provide gauge for 2 bars

[glossy atlas]

wally's got team speedy entry 2

[warped gulch]

That team’ll will work tho

[glossy atlas]

that's helpful ig

[cloud timber]

melony runs out with +6 speed all and 1 bar

[civic island]

Yeah I tried the possible with it time ago
Not even +6 speed and mgr can sustain that, for long (vileplume)
But was funny

[warped gulch]

He can grid team speedy entry 1

And Quick Tempo

[icy pendant]

yeah wally provdes +6 team speed and whimsical acceleration but that still doesn't keep up with 2 bars

[warped gulch]

Bc he is mega

[glossy atlas]

and whismical acceleration too

[warped gulch]

He can active Quick Tempo again

[civic island]

Can anyone w invested wally n ssgladion test if it's sustainable?

[icy pendant]

with melony?

[civic island]

Agatha

Penny gives also regen with gauge accel

[icy pendant]

ew regen

[warped gulch]

Why Gladion

[icy pendant]

for 3v3

[warped gulch]

Why you dont miss your cannon

[icy pendant]

oh you're testing

does gladion want overpower on grid? I don't think so right?

[copper otter]

imma go ham tomorrow and Tuesday to make sure I'm top 500. hopefully this datamine doesn't drop a support unit.

surely

[civic island]

Should be better than one super syncer imo

[icy pendant]

ok yeah this gauge is not enough for agatha

[warped gulch]

2 B Move or 1 B Move is better ?

[cloud timber]

and if it's bad for agatha it's worse for gridless bp barry

[civic island]

If there's time for it, it also give 3 smun

[warped gulch]

Ah, then 1 is better

[civic island]

Rip

[warped gulch]

Why Gladion?

Why you didn’t miss any cannon when i need it ?

Even with Sync spam, Gladion only can reach 7 Sync

[orchid crescent]

lmao is it optimal for fleur cannon to miss so you can use the bmove faster

[warped gulch]

6 Syncs + 1 B Move

Or 5 Syncs + 2 B Move

Wait, no, he only can reach maximum 6

[fluid anvil]

theres is no gauge in existence that can ever be enough for 2 bar status spam. You use up 6 bars in like ~3 seconds

[civic island]

Yup, only rejuvinate may handle that, EX calem is fast enough but trading one sync buff isnt great

[fluid anvil]

How would you use SS Gladion and SS Wally together in DC? With sing spam strats you only have slot for 1 damage dealer.

[icy pendant]

you just use bp barry

[fluid anvil]

I guess BP Barry is fine .. few less syncs, but they are stronger

[dire spade]

No way I'll mantain the top 100, but felt very satisfied!

[deep apex]

Wally is very difficult to break 1mil

With only 3/5 zerena

[rain copper]

Are you attempting ranked challenge?

[deep apex]

Yea

[shy ore]

Is there a vid of the Rosa/Nate/Red strategy for ranked? I am doing something wrong and I can't pinpoint it

[rain copper]

Have you checked the pinned doc?

[rain copper]

That makes sense. Her dps is not good enough to break 1m

[shy ore]

Ah I overlooked that link. Thanks

[deep apex]

I'll have to wait to get Nate I guess

[dire spade]

Missed the last B-Move by a very small margin of time. Need a bit more luck on para or evasion

[calm anvil]

Wait for the DC that's lithe

THEN you'll have to find another way.

Melony sing spam all the way

[cloud timber]

aaron gaming

[long silo]

Does electric terrain also prevent sleep

[spark prism]

NC Rosa

[cloud timber]

yea

[long silo]

SST Red Meta

[normal parcel]

Vileplume has sleep powder, not sing

[thin wren]

new dc unit

[normal parcel]

Melony numbling blow 9 custom LS when?

[thin wren]

Real

[unique abyss]

nooo, I completely forgot about ranked dc 💀

[thin wren]

I hope one of the new units is a dc god

[cloud timber]

i already hate switching skills off melony lol

would like to keep vigi ft and stoic

[normal parcel]

If only tech egg Jigglypuff had body slam and sing

[sullen zephyr]

Which one nukes harder: rei or nc hop?

[normal parcel]

NC hop and by a lot

[sullen zephyr]

Hop has 3 sync multiplier nodes and tech ex while rei only has 1 node

Is rei better for aoe tho?

[normal parcel]

If rei has strike exr should be better for aoe

However hop has zone too

[unique abyss]

if hop has support exr, I'm worried what Adaman will get I wonder who will be better for aoe stage, Hop or Riley

[thin wren]

Time to look at new units

[sullen zephyr]

DC blue is so close to being a new twave spammer

[random cedar]

They want us to do it

[thin wren]

they DEFINITELY know

[cloud timber]

nah

nothing comes close to looking like being dc-tailored

[civic island]

Love how we've been looking for the best fairy for triple and dena slams ssNenoma

[slender venture]

You think she outclasses Gladion?

You would only sync with her

And her sync is okay with that attack stat

[civic island]

She got Haymaker + Circle s-9 and this on top of Paldea Circle Physical
Always critting, aoe bmove with stacking
Surprised they didn't gave her Field ex

[thin wren]

They came so close to making blue straight up para spam

[thin wren]

ss glad still might be better tbh

[civic island]

So far doesn't look easy by numbers
We have to wait for pomatools calcs

[thin wren]

ss glad loses 90% sync multiplier for 2 mil b move

[pallid girder]

DC Blue seems so close to spdef ver of Colress

[thin wren]

They knew what they were doing

[cloud timber]

or they just happened to give him twave and dc people are losing their mind

[pallid girder]

I mean it's TW + 3 turns -6 spdef

[civic island]

On single

And can't keep spamming TW after that

[cloud timber]

and i still can't imagine when you'd want to use it

like it sets up elio with a special attacker but you miss out on wtz/rebuff/seun

not enough gauge for melony

[pallid girder]

Yes he really lacks the most important part: the free gauge or +2 gauge back passive

[long silo]

Oh when are we getting him again

Would be nice to try with Blue/Rosa/Lear on the upcoming ST Psychic

Altho I'd expect NC Blue will be better, but another option wouldn't hurt

[scenic grotto]

It is a shame that DC Blue doesn’t have charge infliction or infliction freebie on his thunder wave

[normal parcel]

Anni may, if you don't have 5/5 SS Brendan I guess

And you don't have Jacq ofc

And Alakazam sync could actually do damage if you want to go for the sprint