Damage Challenge

[vernal condor]

that too

[warped gulch]

And fk that Red’s Tm mpr

[vernal condor]

yup

5/5 EX R +10E nate

with op gears

[warped gulch]

Like i rather do NC Blue + Melony, so much chiller than Red + NC Rosa

[fluid anvil]

so even redlax TMs are too slow compared to just sing spam ? lel

[vernal condor]

oh yeah

you can use 3 sings at least in a single red tm i believe lol

maybe even 4

[scenic grotto]

The perfect Damage Challenge support includes:
Omni Rebuff debuff
Defence/Sp. Def debuff (and speed debuff as a bonus)
Paralysis
Super Effective Up Next
Status spam

Of course stat buffing is important if main damage dealing unit can’t quickly buff it’s own stats

[warped gulch]

His TM took like 7 seconds idk

Let me find some clip

[fluid anvil]

but the best is Chase + NC rosa, no?

[warped gulch]

Yup

His Tm is 7 seconds

[fluid anvil]

chase is always better than nc blue (at least on non-electric) and if you dont need to sync with her then NC rosa should be >= Melony
So technically chase + NC rosa should be best. Or something

[cloud timber]

so uh why do nc rosa havers care about melony

[glossy atlas]

not all

[icy pendant]

because melony can sync and rosa can't

[pallid girder]

I candied Chase for poison DC bc my best poison is Koga and he's the best enabler for Koga lol.

[icy pendant]

if you can get the dream dodges with chase then yeah, otherwise his longer setup seems less than ideal

[warped gulch]

Most comp yeah
But i believe for Dmg dealer have Supp cake then Rosa’ll worse than Melony

[glossy atlas]

honestly fire type 3v3 is making me kind of curious

[normal parcel]

Probably SS Hilda

[glossy atlas]

she takes time to set up though

[icy pendant]

Hilda/CLeaf?

[pallid girder]

Who's the other candidates tho?

[normal parcel]

Isn't just tm and maybe a v create?

[glossy atlas]

maybe ss hilda h jasmine and sleep

[normal parcel]

Probably SS Hilda NC leaf and a spammer

[icy pendant]

super sync 9 on 3/5?

[normal parcel]

Yes super sync 9 is 3/5

[fluid anvil]

SS Hilda will be good, but she is still a Striker, not a Tech+Strike. And she aint no Nate either
She will do what SS serena did or so. So probably under 2M

[glossy atlas]

nah i said jasmine because of the +6 in both def you can get and bc of para

[icy pendant]

chase might be better there ngl

[plain cedar]

does sleep always beat paralysis

[normal parcel]

Not that there are tech strike fire types yet

[icy pendant]

it's the one status condition at a time clause

[warped gulch]

Para is easier to use than sleep

Bc sleep requires other status

[glossy atlas]

could be, though hilda's sync does not benefit from the circle

[cursive linden]

Should SS Hilda use Scorching Sync 5? i mean we all wanted to use para

[pallid girder]

Oh NY Wallace would be interesting

[cursive linden]

This is fucking disgusting, i love it

[glossy atlas]

[normal parcel]

If you burn you don't need a slot for paralysis and you can spam sing on a burned opponent

[fluid anvil]

actually .. arent Mix blue and NY wallace way better than Vilda?

[icy pendant]

not seeing enough energy to get it unless you're 4/5

[cursive linden]

Burn animation

[normal parcel]

I would say ideally you want to burn only one

[warped gulch]

This is enough for me

[normal parcel]

And not the center

Center attacks more so is wiser to burn a side

[icy pendant]

no sde2 for last move?

[cloud timber]

i'd think you take whatever sync mults you could get

[cursive linden]

Also another problem

Not enough energy for Scorching Sync

[normal parcel]

Scorching sync isn't important

[cursive linden]

Unless you want to get rid of those +25 Sync move grids

[warped gulch]

You focus on Sync dmg anyway

[normal parcel]

You may want to burn a side so you can use sleep spam

[glossy atlas]

well now i got a dilemma , ss hilda's role , red's role or even rose's role?

[warped gulch]

And 3vs3 Sync should be way better than last move

[glossy atlas]

f2p will definitely be hilda

[icy pendant]

I'd rather have +20% for a single move at the end than gauge on a move I'm only going to click at the end

[glossy atlas]

or silver maybe

[cursive linden]

F2P: Hilda
P2W: Hilda ||Sygna Suit||

[plain cedar]

wait hold on

why Chase?

what’s all the Chase discourse for

[warped gulch]

So you want +4 Energy?

Bc +10 atk too

[cloud timber]

nuh uh

[icy pendant]

oh I'm getting only +2 if I want to grab that attack tile

get to the top part through the confusion bp tile instead

[normal parcel]

Mgr is useless, you pick it just to save energy I guess

But you can pick attack ,+10 and BP instead of mgr

[icy pendant]

something like this without overcapping

[cursive linden]

I found it funny that we are planning for something about 1 month ahead

I love you guys so much

[warped gulch]

Oh right

[icy pendant]

we were planning for grass and water on day 1 smh

[cloud timber]

just plan for everything

[warped gulch]

Then this should be better for 0E

[normal parcel]

Silver I guess can also cook

[warped gulch]

2 extra E maybe for +2 SpA i guess

[icy pendant]

honestly I'll probably +2 my SSHilda for this since she'll be 3/5 by then

[glossy atlas]

it's better to be prepared than be caught off guard

[icy pendant]

there's no way ncleaf is better for 3 target than hilda right

[glossy atlas]

no

[warped gulch]

Maybe meta’ll change tho

[nova remnant]

Silver got that SF14 + Inertia + SEUN heavy carrying him

[warped gulch]

Like Melony today ~~or yesterday ~~

[cursive linden]

Dear God, imagine NC Leaf on Fire ST

[nova remnant]

Maybe on 3v3

[normal parcel]

NC leaf may be wanted for sun and rebuff

[glossy atlas]

well yea , but u can adapt to that

[cloud timber]

melony still isn't theoretically fastest spammer when she doesn't have 100 acc

[icy pendant]

wait speaking of 100acc, agatha's too slow because of mgr right

[glossy atlas]

this three triple have me even more curious

[warped gulch]

Melony: 20s Sync
Barry/Colress: 30-35s Sync

[cloud timber]

2 bar demolishes gauge

[icy pendant]

2 bar but you always get 1 back

[cursive linden]

My best dark striker is furbert 2/5

[normal parcel]

Mgr won't work if it fails

[cloud timber]

aaron is faster if you could just reduce his setup enough

there just isn't a good way to do that yet

[icy pendant]

ssa cynthia aaron 👀

[warped gulch]

just use SSA Cynthia then

[normal parcel]

I know what to do in ranked

[cloud timber]

she's there but not as effective as melony comps

[icy pendant]

wait ssa cynthia aaron rei might cook on my ranked team

[vernal condor]

faster than what, sing ?

[icy pendant]

I need to record my rei fight anyways...

[warped gulch]

In theory yes

[cloud timber]

yes

[vernal condor]

yes

[warped gulch]

Bc Sing can miss

[vernal condor]

yeah

[warped gulch]

Bc how to make it better than Sing is still a question

Only SSA Cynthia fully buff Def/SpDef by 1 click

But she gives 0 gauge beside her B Move

And her Zone’ll eat time too

[fluid anvil]

is it definitely NOT worth using Melonys TM for the accuracy buff ..? To make sing miss less

[scenic grotto]

Dark weak I have Summer N with the power to apply SEUN to himself after every sync

[vernal condor]

Actually, is SS Steven better than Aaron

(DC is the only game mode where this question makes sense lol)

[icy pendant]

double team?

[vernal condor]

No, normal form

[cursive linden]

Cosmic Power

[vernal condor]

Speed form is slow funnily enough

Getting into normal form gives +2 in both defenses, but it sets psychic terrain which is slow

And he's way faster than Aaron (as well as +2 speed from the TM) so you have more gauge to spam the 1-gauge cosmic power

you still need to suffer through 4 cosmic power tho

[cursive linden]

I REALLY wanted to use SS Steven in DC

[pallid girder]

They didn't foresee it and slap the wrong move on spe form 😦

[scenic grotto]

There is sync countdown/gauge fast
And there is time fast

[vernal condor]

@cloud timber since you used aaron what do you think

[cursive linden]

i actually dont know that he doesn't have multiplier besides passive

[vernal condor]

aaron also has mgr4 at base which is slow

[cursive linden]

(Why do i feel like the next anni is gonna be really good for DC events?)

[fluid anvil]

SS steven attack is basically a ~Striker with Support role

[warped gulch]

Ok hear me

[cursive linden]

[warped gulch]

SS Dawn + SS Steven

[fluid anvil]

but too bad for him LuSSa exists

[cursive linden]

huh?

[vernal condor]

waaaaiiiit

you only have to suffer through 2 cosmic power, none with tm mpr

[cursive linden]

https://tenor.com/view/let-the-man-cook-gif-6664196623883493304

[vernal condor]

and then you cosmic power spam

no need for sing

[glossy atlas]

none

[cursive linden]

OH MY GOD

THAT COULD WORK

[glossy atlas]

+2 def and sp def from changing form

[vernal condor]

nah, attack deoxys

and big damage

[warped gulch]

[vernal condor]

you can slap jacq as a 3rd for the better nuke and final stored power

[fluid anvil]

but do you have enough gauge to spam Cosmic Power ?

[vernal condor]

who knows

[cursive linden]

[vernal condor]

lol that can work

[cursive linden]

If i get 1M from this.............

[icy pendant]

wait why is speed forme as slow as it is

[vernal condor]

because double team only buffs 1 stat

[icy pendant]

because it looks like it's proccing a hidden passive but I'm not seeing one

[vernal condor]

not 2, so the spam is slow

[fluid anvil]

But is this even that good of damage ? you dont have WZT/rebuff/SEUN/circle etc.
(also why SS dawn?)

[vernal condor]

(de)buff 1 stat: slow
2+: fast
don't ask why

[cursive linden]

Chase 🤝 SS Steven (Speed)
Speedy but slow

[vernal condor]

actually yeah why ss dawn just go with ssa cynthia

+6 def instantly

[cursive linden]

I don't have SSA Cynthia

[vernal condor]

or evelyn, she'll get her ex at anni trust

(evelyn doesn't have sprint, ignore this)

[fluid anvil]

is this for 3v1 or 3v3 ?
for 3v1 just use 3/5 Olympia, I'm pretty sure she will beat this by a lot

[cursive linden]

3v1

I only have Olympia 2/5

[icy pendant]

there's still another week of cs before ranked dc ends right

[icy pendant]

I'm looking at the dates it's more of a question of the end time is Tuesday or later right

[cursive linden]

yes

[normal parcel]

Tried Aaron, it kinda works, but it ends up with gauge issues without any kind of propelling move

[vernal condor]

literally melony

[civic island]

I tried him and was successful with ssacynthia
Aaron Catalyst and cynthia zone accel can keep up

For fighting stages it may be good

[fluid anvil]

Melony and Aaron are the same speed-wise (?) .. except that Aaron needs to get to 6 defences first, while Melony only needs status on the enemy
Melony setup is probably easier and faster

I guess Aaron - Cynthia - Rei is fine for Fighting 3v3

[civic island]

Yup, rei bring speed and got SE next

And maybe super desperate if he's the first target

[fluid anvil]

will Rei or NC Bianca be more damage for Fighting 3v3 ?

[vernal condor]

bianca

supp ex, circle

rebuff

[civic island]

Rei got mediocre sync nodes sadly
Bianca got a lot of stuff going on

[fluid anvil]

I figure Bianca sync is better, but Rei can fire off a super strong B-move (stronger than Nates?) after every sync

[vernal condor]

you only want to click it once at the very end

it's not worth

[civic island]

Not sure if his bmove is just a waste if time middle fight

Yeah just at the end

[vernal condor]

if nate doesn't click it, rei won't

[civic island]

Unless def drops are worth

[fluid anvil]

They might be ..

[civic island]

And if time wise is allowed to

[cursive linden]

Would Bianca prefer SC Steven for 1 more rebuff or CHop for Zone?

[fluid anvil]

Rei multipliers are only 50%, but he has a Sprint sync, so he has an innate one too.
I dont even have bianca anyway...

[civic island]

Zone should be better

[cursive linden]

Chop it is

[civic island]

I tried a setup like
-6 def -3 rebuff vs -2 rebuff Zone and no def drops
Zone still preform better

[icy pendant]

y'all I've gone this long without realizing I've never played Rei with +6 attack on the ranked stage

what am I doing with my life

[civic island]

[vernal condor]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CCTxz0TX-y_D-Z5Dd0fJpBIdC-TXa2RoPDpLhJhcFlg/edit?usp=sharing wanted to write more detailed explanations on everything than what #1261142582688223233 has, so uh here it is lol

also to keep track of everything because it's becoming kinda chaotic

[warped gulch]

Ok idk wtf i’m doing but this is looking kinda …… ok ?

[cloud timber]

currently no more effective than melony, but could change in the future

tested nc blue/ss cynthia with aaron and melony and melony is still better even though discharges help reduce aaron's animations

and is faster than defend order i think?

and neither team came very close to outperforming my 1.1m with dragon zone

was like 900k

[vernal condor]

pog ?

[civic island]

9 sync buffs

[cloud timber]

7 syncs is the new standard

[fluid anvil]

which steven form is that ?

[icy pendant]

normal

[fluid anvil]

Also wouldnt Chase (with Melony/Rosa) still always be better just because his circle gives x1.2 damage boost?

for special dmg anyway*

[brisk shale]

I've seen some SS Elesa usage too

[vernal condor]

only for f2p, and outdated because of melony strat probably

[brisk shale]

Ic

[vernal condor]

actually not probably, melony did more than elesa this dc

[icy pendant]

chase slow so you lose at least 1 sync just by using him

ss dawn + steven lets you immediately spam without ever inflicting a status

[fluid anvil]

how is he slow?
and i reached 7 syncs with Chase-Melony with both SSC and Cyrus. It was consistent

[icy pendant]

reactive passives

[versed shale]

Enlighten me, why Normal Forme Deo

[icy pendant]

cosmic power buffs 2 stats at the same time so it's extremely fast when it fails

[versed shale]

And theme skills i guess

[vernal condor]

more like supp sync that does some damage

and yeah cosmic power ofc

[icy pendant]

yeah compared to aaron the theme skills are better

[civic island]

Cosmic power costing 1

[vernal condor]

1 away from a 8th sync? damn

[icy pendant]

you took both crisis countdowns or no?

[warped gulch]

Ofc yes

That team gauge is cringe tho

I may need gear that give 30 speed for psychic

[icy pendant]

trying to imagine that team with jacq

[icy pendant]

also just now realizing full context, I think yes in theory assuming you get perfect dodges, nc blue gives the same +20% but has faster setup

[warped gulch]

Jacq might better tho

Bc he has Lum berry to reduce CD too

[fluid anvil]

Chase is definitely better than NC Blue due to sprint
also the 20% arent the same - Blues 20% sync dmg passive is like an extra CS2 - it stacks with all other multipliers (I think...), so its a really small boost in fact.
circles are separate multiplicative boosts (like WZT/rebuffs), so Chase circle should boost ALL damage by exactly x1.2.

if I'm not wrong

[icy pendant]

every time chase is hit it's an instant 2 seconds lost though, that adds up unless you dodge everything you need to dodge and only get hit by what you need to get hit by

chase has lots of extra animation time between two circle sets and TM and just tanking, so maybe he's tactic 2, but spamming 3 sings isn't exactly slow

[fluid anvil]

you dont make chase the first priority target, so he will only get sometimes clipped by an AoE .. and the evasion he gives makes up for that - with good rng you save even more time
x1.2 damage boost is a lot, it makes up for its animation time (and you only use the circle once if its extended - it lasts well over a minute). Anyway I tested NC blue as well and Chase was better, no contest

[icy pendant]

ugh can't extend my circle because 2/5 but I feel like that might be more apparent in a st battle as paralyzing sides aren't always a guarantee I don't think

unless we're guaranteed to have a sidemon with a spread move?

[fluid anvil]

you dont really need to paralyze all 3, only the sing target
and yeah extended circle helps

[warped gulch]

Idk who want to play this team lol

[icy pendant]

I'm thinking a second paralyzed target = fewer moves that you then have to dodge

[icy pendant]

I kinda do...

[warped gulch]

[icy pendant]

unless 3/5 VElio can contend with that

I actually have all of the pairs that should be top damage dealers for psychic st

[vernal condor]

sucks that we can't see the actual damage

[glossy atlas]

nah bro you just discovered how to destroy the st psychich challenge

[warped gulch]

My Jacq is 1/5 so i’ll not use him lol

[warped gulch]

I still think Red + Melony still better tho

[icy pendant]

I've been holding 2 candies and I think they go to him

[fluid anvil]

this is genuinely impressive (though not faster than sing).
but how would the gauge be if the main dps didnt have +6 speed?

[warped gulch]

Bad

Jacq works smoothly bc he has Lum Berry

And random buff helped too

[lusty galleon]

you can calculate it

[icy pendant]

ngl I think sing spam might still be better just because you can use nc rosa and that applies rebuff

so there's a chance jacq might max damage on a sync?

[clever wasp]

The feather for NC Nate, which gear do I use it on

[warped gulch]

Rn Jacq + Red + Rosa seems the best for me

[civic island]

vElio should have the advantage of -6 spdef and psy terrain

[glossy atlas]

bandanna, u can get more atk with the other 2

[warped gulch]

That team is only test for funny steven

[vernal condor]

well cosmic power is consistently faster than sing

[clever wasp]

Thx

[fluid anvil]

rosa rebuff requires using b-move doesnt it ? that will cost you 1 sync ...

[icy pendant]

it requires 1 sing

[warped gulch]

Sing works

[fluid anvil]

oh ok

[warped gulch]

Tbh, i’ll stuck with my 3/5 Velio

[glossy atlas]

try to get 70+ atk in the bracelet and some in the pin, you will have +80 atk atleast and the buffs from the bandanna

[warped gulch]

With Red and Rosa ofc

[vernal condor]

also b stored power is so strong, you might prefer the double support strat

rather than 1 support then full dps

because double support ends up with more sync buffs, so stored power is stronger

[warped gulch]

Also

[vernal condor]

but that means no rosa

[warped gulch]

Jacq has Supp cake

[icy pendant]

but when does stored power cap its damage

[vernal condor]

never i believe

for jacq's specifically

[icy pendant]

someone capped it on 3v3 though

[vernal condor]

ah you mean the 999,999

[icy pendant]

you're not fighting number of stat raises, you're fighting for 1 million on a single move

[cloud timber]

yea that one's a big deal

[safe prawn]

Well I might play it like that

[fluid anvil]

so you have to choose between rebuff, but 1 less sync (if Rosa syncs) .. or no rebuff, but all 7 syncs (if she doenst) ?

[safe prawn]

Bc my jacq isn’t caked since it’s not needed in lg lol

[civic island]

It's 10% per stat, so as many as you have

[fluid anvil]

or no, thats wrong. I'm confused

[vernal condor]

no it's basically do you need 9 sync buffs to max stored power

and the answer is probably no

[warped gulch]

How many SpDef enemy have ?

[vernal condor]

[warped gulch]

[vernal condor]

it's literally in the infographic lol

it's 83 i believe

[civic island]

83 both def spdef

[clever wasp]

I put his feather in bandana and it gives spa

[glossy atlas]

yea, the point is you try to get another bracelet that gives nate atk, but more than 70 normally so you take advantage of the boosts from the bandanna and you can also get more atk than what the feather would have given

[clever wasp]

K

At tgis point I'm out of green feathers

[glossy atlas]

yo got stamina?

[clever wasp]

Some

[glossy atlas]

use some in the training area

[clever wasp]

Last thing I knew the training only gave yellow feathers

[latent plover]

Updated run

https://youtu.be/4RhQbPbLR-4

[glossy atlas]

you only look for stats that apply to nate, not buffs

[clever wasp]

So don't bother with additional effects

Most pins seem to only give 10 attack

[glossy atlas]

nope, just atk stat that affects to nate, theme skills , dragon champion unova, main character

[glossy atlas]

roll in the bracelet

that gives up to 80

atleast 60+

is what you should get

[clever wasp]

What am I looking for in the pin

[glossy atlas]

10 atk if you can

[glossy atlas]

that's enough, if you then have or get abracelet with 60+ its good

[clever wasp]

I e got a bracelet with 55 and critastropgy 3 but will probably will

[nocturne cove]

i got 950k points total for the 3 stages

[glossy atlas]

does it affect to nate?

[clever wasp]

Dragon and unova

[vernal condor]

thx arch

[glossy atlas]

that's good honestly it should help a bit more , what does the nate feather give?

[nocturne cove]

what's the strat for Fighting nuke?

[clever wasp]

Dragon zone up 3% unscathed s moves up 4% special move dr 3%

60hp 20def

[glossy atlas]

that's good, keep the bracelet, you could get more dmg with this

[clever wasp]

I got a dragon one with 10 attack
Opp poison s moves up 5%
Opp interference s moves up 4% on pin

Pin

[glossy atlas]

keep it, the important matter here is the statstry with those gear, your dmg should get up40-60k i believe or even more

what comp are you using against which battle?

[clever wasp]

So in total +65 attack, critastrophy 3%, physical moves 3% wtz change 3%, opp interference s moves 4%

I was for today wally doing Nate, SST Red, NC Rosa that got 2.5m but wanna try NC Bianca/Nate and Colress

[glossy atlas]

yea that should be a good amount of dmg you can get, i don't know if you will be able to get the interference, but the rest is ok

[glossy atlas]

i assume bianca is 3/5 exr?

[clever wasp]

The run I saw with Bianca has some flinch runs

Yeah all of them 3/5 exr

Colress 5/5

[glossy atlas]

ok ,you could follow this too

[clever wasp]

Yeah that's my next move

Cuz I'm 18 tickets short of another pair

[glossy atlas]

is not that tryhard as some 4m+ runs and you could get around 3.5m, check grid before doing it too

srry for the ping D:

[latent plover]

Bianca is definitely better than Rosa here. I would also not use SST Red here either

NC Bianca, Nate and Colress are probably the ideal team for this

[clever wasp]

Red helped me to 2.5 but I definitely wanna try higher

[latent plover]

With Bianca you easily cross 3 million if Nate syncs 4 times

[clever wasp]

I always end up short synvs

[latent plover]

The thing is, you need several dodges to get there

Bianca raises evasion so pray to dodge the non aoe moves

[nocturne cove]

so, about that Fighting stage...?

[icy pendant]

what do you have for fighting-eligible syncs with innate multipliers?

[nocturne cove]

that's the thing, i don't know who got multipliers

[icy pendant]

ie. chop, sc diantha, rei, glorialt, riley and bea can also work

[nocturne cove]

i have 1/5 Keldeo and 1/5 Zapdos-G

[icy pendant]

those first 4 are the only options with innates that are really worth using

[nocturne cove]

Riley is that free guy with Lucario right?

[icy pendant]

yep

[nocturne cove]

i have all the general pool pairs, except some very new ones

[limpid orbit]

+12% Sync Damage on Gears

[glossy atlas]

you update us how it goes, we can help you if you need it

[safe prawn]

I just tried btw and just 1 dodge/par is ok if it’s not dragon claw lol

[clever wasp]

Thanks guys

[safe prawn]

If you avoid the flygon you get there, earthquake eats too much time

Now it’s all about getting good dmg rolls or rolling for better gears

[latent plover]

So just flinch the Flygon?

[nocturne cove]

i tried with Bea and Riley (Barry/Colr para strats) but i got only 200k points. 199k ish

[safe prawn]

I did it without flinching anything except Altaria once

[latent plover]

I ain't doing that

[safe prawn]

I have decent gears but I’m not getting enough good rolls

[latent plover]

And I already have multipliers on gear

[safe prawn]

Stuck on 3.75 mln

[latent plover]

From there I don't think I can push it to 4 million

[safe prawn]

Already emptied the shop for nuke feathers

This month

[latent plover]

It's literally damage ranges at this point

[icy pendant]

wait I forgot Riley has innate inertia, I'd just use Riley with Brawn Sync 5 and then someone who can max his speed fast (in a spam team)

[safe prawn]

The only way I could see is to avoid almost anything to squeeze a scale shot after last b move

[clever wasp]

I don't have enough I think to extra 6 grid them

[safe prawn]

But I’m never gonna get there lol

[limpid orbit]

even with 10 sec remaining, you don't have time for scale shot

[safe prawn]

What’s your secret to squeeze 200K more points in

[limpid orbit]

I literally said it

[clever wasp]

@latent plover yeah so I can't +6 grid both Bianca and nate

[latent plover]

Bianca can manage without the extra energy, but Nate wants it for this battle

[limpid orbit]

Do this for Bianca

[clever wasp]

Thx

Yeah I can give to Nate

[glossy atlas]

seeing nate compete with tech strikers in terms of dmg shows how busted he is

[clever wasp]

I need to make Nate work hard to pay back scout points

[latent plover]

Nate's boosts with that team are ungodly

This team makes him so powerful

[glossy atlas]

nate in general is, i'm lucky i got both nate and rosa

[latent plover]

Same

[clever wasp]

Rosa came in 7? And nate points

[latent plover]

I would've gotten him no matter what cause I'm a sucker for Unova

[clever wasp]

And this was right before SST Red took to points

[glossy atlas]

i honestly don't remember how mine went

[latent plover]

Ouch, SST Red caused me to pity too

[clever wasp]

Red was sooooo worth

[latent plover]

My Nate and Rosa scout went well actually

Bianca though was pity

[clever wasp]

Had real bad masterfair luck up until lusamine cake rerun

[glossy atlas]

i got lucky with bianca and no cheren, although for st flying he wasn't needed

[clever wasp]

Those scouts were nuts. Cheren in a daily followed by 2 Bianca in a multi

My love for Unova came through

[latent plover]

Cheren will be needed for flying triple

[glossy atlas]

my 3rd anni went well the 2nd and 4th were atrocious

[latent plover]

Same for me

[glossy atlas]

yeah,ik

[latent plover]

If you cake Anni Skyla you can manage

[glossy atlas]

1st multi sst red 3 multi cynthia pity ash, the others were pity anni lillie and nothing more and pity nc red and nothing more

[plush palm]

i skipped the galar trio

[nocturne cove]

I'll try that.
NC Blue Zapdos? Arcanine girl?

[plush palm]

galar character just dont interest me

[clever wasp]

I was naive and did multi for ash and red. I guess I got the right pair

[plush palm]

got all the 2nd anni mfs tho

[icy pendant]

could do a little NC Blue + Melony and reset to paralyze turn 1 with Blue before you start buffing

or just Hilbert + Colress for f2p

[clever wasp]

Johto masterfairs are back to slapping me in the face. No Ethan in dailies both times, Lyra sparked and wasn't her this morning

[glossy atlas]

and i had come from a pity ss steven where i got 1st copy 2 multis before pity , 2nd copy the multi before pity and 3/5 with pity, that was lucky

[clever wasp]

Took SS Steven off the select a while ago

Was on my wish list and never was rerunning back rhen

[glossy atlas]

he has only rerun once till the date

[clever wasp]

Waiting for leaf to get her ex role cuz she'll be in a banner again. I need her pair

[glossy atlas]

ss?

[clever wasp]

Mhm

Been holding that ticket for toooo long

[glossy atlas]

no i mean ss leaf?

[clever wasp]

The venusaur one

[glossy atlas]

oh yeah,any role would be great honestly

the only tech pair that only really had one good exr was ss steven

[clever wasp]

I've dailied every single double/triple pokefair leaf and red have been in hoping one would stick so the other would be from the ticket and absolutely no luck

[glossy atlas]

that's unlucky

how are the tries going with nate?

[clever wasp]

Haven't started yet. Don't have the video memorized yet

[clever wasp]

1.62M aka a sync move short and alot of damage short

First sync seemed a million too low

100k*

3.2 million second try

Might be the best shot I have

Hard to tell if maybe I missed crits or my gear just isn't on par with ylurs

[thick stump]

hells yeah

[clever wasp]

I've got aways to catch up

[thick stump]

nate can't miss crits

he has them guaranteed

[clever wasp]

So then 3.2 million might be my best

Maybe my gear is a bit lacking but I can't really fix that

[warped gulch]

What is your gear look like ?

[clever wasp]

So in total +65 attack, critastrophy 3%, physical moves 3% wtz change 3%, opp interference s moves 4%

[warped gulch]

So you only have 3% for Sync dmg ?

[warped gulch]

6% for B Move

[clever wasp]

Honestly won't go too crazy fixing this

[warped gulch]

I think you still can improve tho

[fluid anvil]

Ok well I tested Cyrus - syncing with only 1 support (1 EX support + 6 Cyrus syncs = 7 total syncs, 8 sync buffs at the end), and the number is definitely less than I had with 2 Supp syncs + 5 Cyrus syncs..:

• with 2 support syncs I had 837k-840k (this was with ONE spatial rend at the end)

https://streamable.com/jm5op5

• with 1 support sync - max I got was ~803k and this was with squeezing in TWO Spatial Rends at the end.

[clever wasp]

Without new gear

[warped gulch]

My gears isn’t better than you that much and i still score 3.2m with worse team tho

[clever wasp]

I haven't given up just will be away from this for a bit

[fluid anvil]

everything else was exactly the same. So 2 support syncs worked out better

[vernal condor]

So in a 7 sync situation you want 2 supp syncs

So Rosa is ass

Then again it might be a damage roll thing

[clever wasp]

What I need to do honestly is fix my ranked one cuz I'm still under 400k on poison and have to redo dragon probably with the team I'm using for this wally

[warped gulch]

Melony > NC Rosa confirmed

[warped gulch]

You can try Janine/Melony/Koga for Poison

[clever wasp]

I don't have any of them at ex

[warped gulch]

[clever wasp]

What I need to do is get help with roxie

[warped gulch]

SS Roxie or base ?

[clever wasp]

Ss

3/5 no role

[warped gulch]

Did you use BP Barry ?

[clever wasp]

I can free up Redlax if use this 3v3 Wally battle strat and that'll get Roxie points

Yeah

[warped gulch]

What is Klara doing there ?

[clever wasp]

Stupidity

Was my second attempt

Definitely can do better.

But if I throw Bianca over Redlax for Wally I can use Redlax for marnie

And swap Klara for something, anything else

[warped gulch]

You can use Elio

Doesn’t need EX

[clever wasp]

Elio Roxie Redlax?

I did give Elio ex for the water scoring

[warped gulch]

Elio Roxie Jasmine

[clever wasp]

Nk

[warped gulch]

She has 100% para when enemy attack her

In grid

[thin wren]

nate crossed 4.5 mil yet?

[fluid anvil]

For 7 syncs - seems so. I guess 9 syncs buffs just trumps 8 sync buffs here.
Difference was 7-8% or so (if you count only 1 spatial rend for each)

[warped gulch]

The more Syncs the better 2 supp is

[clever wasp]

Got a grid for Elio?

[warped gulch]

But 7 is really high already

Reach hard to reach 8

[thin wren]

what's the top score rn?

[warped gulch]

He doesn’t need it

[clever wasp]

Even for sing?

[warped gulch]

What he have for sing ?

[versed shale]

I say this as someone who uses Jacq very often, I don’t think I’ve ever seen the Lum Berry animation

[clever wasp]

Idk

[warped gulch]

He doesn’t have +accurate like Melony tho

So he basically doesn’t need anything in grid

[clever wasp]

Nk

Thanks

[cloud timber]

haste/unbending/speed tiles could help

[random cedar]

Melody

[thin wren]

was that.....7 syncs?

[warped gulch]

Yeah, normal for Sync rush

[copper otter]

Wait HOW FAST IS COSMIC POWER NOW?!

[warped gulch]

Same as sleep

But you need +6 Def and +6 SpDef to spam it

Which very rare

And gauge is awful

[copper otter]

I have 4/5 SSDawn

I can do it

Ss steven just made his mark in dc

[thin wren]

Yes but first time I have seen stat rush do it

[thin wren]

faster than status spam as it has no passive animation

[copper otter]

Yall are finding the most niche moves and i love it

[thin wren]

I wonder if we will ever get a team fast enough to be able to spam sync rush moves without needing the gauge passives

[warped gulch]

Tf i found that team awful lol

[thin wren]

Hasn't this existed for a while?

[warped gulch]

Just really nice to find another way to sync rush

[thin wren]

Just never been practical

rdc just gives it an use

[copper otter]

My trainer in pasio, try oleana/colress/Ciris

[warped gulch]

Tf you all didn’t see my V Elio yet

[copper otter]

[cloud timber]

bad to skip seun/wtz/rebuff if you can help it

[thin wren]

so the only thing holding peak sync rush back is an unit with smth like sing or stun spore, acc and no gauges

[cloud timber]

want at least one of those usually

[thin wren]

wonder if we will ever get a 0 gauge unit with no mp restrictions with a move that can sync spam easily

[random cedar]

What the fuck

[thin wren]

colress and Barry are held back by passives for gauge and melony is held back by there not being enough gauge but a passive that gives gauge would ruin her point

[random cedar]

will SS Steven be good for psychic DC this time?

[thin wren]

eh

not enough space

[warped gulch]

That team just really close for 10 Sync Buff

[random cedar]

Last time I got like 1.3m cause no SS Lusamine

[icy pendant]

he's an option for a spammer who will do well

[random cedar]

3v3

[thin wren]

Steven could do so much because of that specific team

[random cedar]

It's mainly SS Dawn

[thin wren]

Lana + Jacq + sync spammer should still be better for psychic st

[random cedar]

Don't have Jacq but I do have a 3/5 SS Lana

[warped gulch]

Red + Jacq + Rosa

[icy pendant]

if he's a damage source he'll be okay but he can be a catalyst for another damage dealer with spam

[random cedar]

Who's the 2nd best? I assume anni May?

[icy pendant]

personally I can't wait to reset for 30% paralysis on turn 1

[random cedar]

Or setup is too slow

[warped gulch]

Lucky that my Red is 2/5 from mix so i have 60%

[warped gulch]

Idk tbh

[random cedar]

I got 2 Redlax's from mix in one rotation

[warped gulch]

Anni May is stuck with SS Brendan from i saw early

[icy pendant]

is it between annimay, velio, and Olympia?

[copper otter]

Ain't no way

[random cedar]

vElio?

[copper otter]

Yea

[icy pendant]

comes with his own terrain and some really good multipliers

[random cedar]

Shouldn't SS Steven be better cause support EXR?

Oh yeah terrain

[icy pendant]

velio also has support exr

[thin wren]

rosa rush huh. Without charging infliction or with?

[warped gulch]

Without ofc

Rosa can buff speed

[random cedar]

Ok SS Steven is cooked

[copper otter]

Pykuo.... i'm stealing that team lmao

[warped gulch]

Dont

That team is awful

[icy pendant]

SS Steven only hit 2m for me on 3 target, now I don't remember how much I was sync rushing

[copper otter]

Try me

[thin wren]

maybe Lear will be second best with 5/5 expansion

[random cedar]

2m? how?

[warped gulch]

The gauge just so cringe

[random cedar]

Do you think Mix Red will be the best for grass 3v3?

Or Victor/SC Sonia?

[copper otter]

Gonna put the unseen FT2 LS on SS Steven

[thin wren]

could I use Lear instead of jacq and still have it work at least?I wanna test this team with Lear

[icy pendant]

sonia has multipliers, victor doesn't, but Adaman has a chance to still just be better tbh

[thin wren]

isn't that bad for this strat?

[random cedar]

Even for 3v3?

Damn

[warped gulch]

Speed Entry 2 is way better tho

[thin wren]

you incur queue penalty

yeh

[copper otter]

Gottem

[icy pendant]

redlax probably gets the nod over Adaman though

[thin wren]

entry better than track

[warped gulch]

[copper otter]

[random cedar]

For fire 3v3 I assume its SS Hilda?

[copper otter]

Ss May

[icy pendant]

SS May tech sprint tho

[random cedar]

3v3?

[thin wren]

yeh, he compresses a lot. You will probably still run adaman tho alongside him

[copper otter]

Oh 3 v3

[icy pendant]

just for the 2 rebuff yeah

[copper otter]

Ye ss hilda

[random cedar]

Or Mix Blue?

Ah okay

[copper otter]

3v 1 will be ss may

[thin wren]

ummmm

[random cedar]

Is SS May better than NC Leaf?

For 3v1

[thin wren]

I would say mix Blue compresses more

[icy pendant]

not an nc leaf believer?

[warped gulch]

Her nuke stronger than Leaf

[thin wren]

nuke is stronger but....

[random cedar]

Yeah I know but Leaf can set up rebuff and sun by herself

[warped gulch]

But Nc Leaf can go with more pair

[random cedar]

And max her stats in one click

[thin wren]

debuffing is kinda cringe and compresses less

nc leaf can afford Chase

[warped gulch]

SS May kinda stuck with some specific pairs

[thin wren]

or mix blue for more weather

[random cedar]

[thin wren]

how good is leaf at sun

[icy pendant]

one set on first b move with potential for solar sync

[warped gulch]

She basically a Sun

[random cedar]

She refreshes sun on sync IIRC?

[thin wren]

ok then yeh nc leaf better

[icy pendant]

ss may might want to run nc leaf alongside her ngl

[thin wren]

definitely

[random cedar]

Pykuo is so real

My SS May is 1/5 don't do that to me

[thin wren]

Idt ss may beats nc leaf with chase

[warped gulch]

She literally the best fire enabler

[random cedar]

I do have a 23/5 Mix Blue tho!

[thin wren]

nc leaf just has an easy af setup, HEAVY compression and can abuse chase

[icy pendant]

my ss may is 5/5 +8e already so I might cook with her when the time comes

[random cedar]

Is there a 3rd Kantonian that could fit in there? for master passive and circle full potential?

[thin wren]

who has a stronger nuke?ss red or mix Blue?both are 5/5

[random cedar]

Doesn't some Erika alt has stun spore

[warped gulch]

No, she has Toxic

2 bar

[random cedar]

Definitely Mix Blue

[icy pendant]

the Erika alt you're thinking of is base Erika

[thin wren]

you probably wanna go a sync spammer for the third slot

[warped gulch]

Agatha time ?

[random cedar]

Yeah but I can't think of a kantonian one

[warped gulch]

[random cedar]

OH

[thin wren]

mix Blue Chase and Barry it is

[thin wren]

oh right leaf will burn

or chase will para

[random cedar]

Agatha has lick

[thin wren]

......

[random cedar]

Doesn't she?

[thin wren]

hypnosis

Chase already deals with para

[warped gulch]

Remember Agatha gives herself +6 speed

[icy pendant]

agatha does in fact have lick

[thin wren]

......why does agatha sound kinda legit for fire st

[icy pendant]

gotta be in the top 10 moves I've never clicked though

[random cedar]

Oh my god we figured out the fire 3v1 meta

[warped gulch]

But that still 2 gauge move

[random cedar]

Gonna 3/5 my Chase

[thin wren]

hypnosis ain't 1 gauge?

[warped gulch]

Nope

[thin wren]

at least chase gives gauge accel

And that team is fast af

[warped gulch]

Why i feel i always gives some random idea and it might work?

[random cedar]

Tbh I would love to burn the enemy for that 5%

[thin wren]

tbf Bianca nate and colress over redlax was suggested and discussed here a few times

[thin wren]

nc leaf: the gear

[random cedar]

Does it count for sync ?

[thin wren]

no

[icy pendant]

I think a fully set up SS May hits for about 400 BP harder than NC Leaf, can someone check my math on that?

[random cedar]

Ah sadge

[thin wren]

are you including chase for nc leaf @icy pendant

[random cedar]

We are ready

I'll 3/5 Chase at some point

How much time do we have until fire 3v1

[thin wren]

btw nc leaf affords both rebuff and sun. Nc May can only afford once as nc leaf needs to sync to refresh

[icy pendant]

I was comparing base power which does not include those multipliers

[thin wren]

oh missed that my bad

[icy pendant]

with fire rebuff from somewhere that still means SS May is hitting harder

[thin wren]

it will only be -1 tho

[random cedar]

Mix Blue over Chase?

[thin wren]

while nc leaf gets to enjoy 2

[icy pendant]

ngl I still think nc leaf syncs if exr and ss may is the main damage dealer so it would be 2

[thin wren]

no, leaf already handles sun and chase gives sprint support sync and Accel and circle

[random cedar]

SEUN

[icy pendant]

seun spotted

(mix blue doesn't exist to me, he knows what he did)

[icy pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-gambling-gif-4822326163116896763

[thin wren]

Chase gives support ex benefits and circle which is close to seun

[icy pendant]

resetting for mpr2 on a 1mp move be like

[random cedar]

I also hate on Mix Blue dw

[thin wren]

without needing to mpr fish

[random cedar]

Well yeah that's true

[thin wren]

and Chase doesn't need to click circle more than twice

[random cedar]

How important is chase's 3/5

Does it only give extension?

[icy pendant]

circle extension is huge, depending on the team I have my eye on team grand entry 2

[thin wren]

for dc revelence it gives circ extension, adrelenine, mpr on tm and grand entry 2

[wise dune]

TS HE9 sounds important for Sing spam strats

[thin wren]

it also makes him a better tank with team sustain

[wise dune]

But that's 2/5

[random cedar]

Oh damn

[thin wren]

no, just reset

[icy pendant]

nah just get hit

[thin wren]

NO

[random cedar]

I can 2/5 him rn, will have to wait for another 13 days to get my next omni candy

[wise dune]

On 10% nah I wouldn't

[thin wren]

you do not want to tank with chase

[random cedar]

idk if it's worth it tbh, I'm more than halfway to another support candy

[icy pendant]

get hit by a spread move

[thin wren]

Nah, I'd gamble

[thin wren]

enemies wait a bit before pulling that out usually

[random cedar]

Real

[wise dune]

If you need any mpr that'd be pain, not here for that

[thin wren]

We are gacha players, gambling is in our blood. Rng is our soul

[random cedar]

If we're talking about Chase/NC Leaf/Agatha

Then the team does not need any MPRs

[wise dune]

Resetting for +Sp.Atk on relic song and first turn Paralyze was traumatizing enough in fighting ST

[random cedar]

Just paralyze with Agatha lick is 30% base

[thin wren]

simply win the gamble

[pure stream]

Aren’t they supposed to be good at this?

[random cedar]

Is it the RDC or the DC

[pure stream]

DC

[random cedar]

Something has been done wrong

[warped gulch]

Use Colress/Red

[thin wren]

@fluid anvil aren't you the ssc guy. Handle this

[fluid anvil]

Just tested Aaron-Cynthia-Rei and it was insane.
https://streamable.com/pnjwm5
-0 gauge issues, even less than on the Chase team. Catalysts are NOT needed at all
-easily get 7 syncs
-after 7 syncs I was still able to use 2 Bmoves - Cynthias and Reis .. so you can drop a 4 PMUN Rei bomb at the very end
-one attempt was a fraction of a second away from getting the 8-th sync - its definitely possible

[rain copper]

[random cedar]

Fighting DC is gonna go crazy

[thin wren]

aoe fighting comp idea?

I think fighting can get 3.6 mil+

[cloud timber]

melony isn't worth it on my poison ranked team

for w/e reason just not scoring as high as with elio

[thin wren]

unfortunately no circle or rebuff tho but rebuff is harder in aoe anyways

[random cedar]

ST Grass should also be in a good spot, Adaman hits hard as fuck

[cloud timber]

damage rolls ig

even though melony has the theme skills

[random cedar]

Def not 3m or anything close, but among the highest for ST stages

[cloud timber]

elio requires no gauge setup but they end up pretty equal

[icy pendant]

st psychic, fire, grass, water should all be crazy high

[thin wren]

If adaman does somehow get strike exr I am 90% sure he crosses 5 mil

[random cedar]

Omg if they do that

[thin wren]

st fairy as well

[random cedar]

SS Wally?

[icy pendant]

oh true wally stocks rising

[thin wren]

Wally is REALLY good at compression

[random cedar]

I NEED SS WALLY

[fluid anvil]

Nah I dont think so, Rei sync isnt strong enough for 3-3.5M. But definitely over 2M? Probably 2.5Mil
Cynthias short zone still lasts long enough for 2 Rei syncs (you sync with Aaron first, then Cynthia)

[thin wren]

so he can afford basically anything (like ny Wallace) as third

[thin wren]

is Rei sync only 150%?

[icy pendant]

Rei should be 250%

[thin wren]

btw fighting st got 3.2+ mil

[pure stream]

Hm, his guys are either maxed out or almost and they’re all EX’d, mine aren’t even past 1/5 except Aaron

[thin wren]

so idt fighting aoe will be too much lower

[icy pendant]

innate inertia + brawn sync 5 (+150%)

[thin wren]

I was so confused when I saw brain sync lol

I thought Rei buffed special attack for some reason

[random cedar]

Adaman has Innate Haymaker, tech EX, Haymaker on grid, SF5, another passive that boosts sync damage AND master passive

[icy pendant]

rei hits 1m single target in ranked so imagine 3 targets and a b move that can deal more than 50k

[random cedar]

Imagine strike exr

[thin wren]

master passive doesn't affect syncs

[thin wren]

you forgot to mention compeesses aoe -2 rebuff

[random cedar]

That's sad but still crazy a amount of multipliers

[random cedar]

That too!

-2 rebuff is 60% right?

[thin wren]

it's very important

[random cedar]

Or 50%?

[icy pendant]

50

[thin wren]

50

[icy pendant]

oh cs2 on grid too

[random cedar]

Insane

[random cedar]

What does he have cs2?

[fluid anvil]

when Fighting 3v3 comes - I will test both spamming Rei syncs, as well as trying to mix in his B-moves after every sync .. see what gives more damage

[thin wren]

idt anything except adaman if he gets strike exr , nc red and maybe flying is beating nc Nate's score

[random cedar]

Oh damn but I'm 10 energy short

And he's 3/5

[thin wren]

you can time b moves to perma flinch enemies

[sturdy pebble]

Wtf, Barry got powercrept

[thin wren]

aoe sure flinch is nutty

[icy pendant]

I think knowing all these fast animation tricks I'd be surprised if B moves are the way to go they basically double the time between syncs now

[cloud timber]

barry is over (not actually but there are a lot more options now)

[fluid anvil]

He does?? You got a video?
If so then yeah - 3 or even 3.5M+ should work

[thin wren]

no, there are just other option for specific comps

[thin wren]

his b move does cut out a few moves from enemies

[icy pendant]

am I missing anything on an Adaman grid this is only +2

[random cedar]

Oh Adaman also takes care of defense debuffs by himself

[thin wren]

yeh

[icy pendant]

unfortunately no I don't have a video of specifically my 1.053m clear, I'm working on getting one this weekend though (I can get 950k no problem though)

[random cedar]

I have enfeeble gridded

[thin wren]

Barry also gives him theme boost

[random cedar]

Oh wow that's true

[icy pendant]

true there's the +6

[random cedar]

Wait what

How only a +6

Oh I have brawn gain 2

[icy pendant]

cut the mgr tile and you're at 65 energy total

[fluid anvil]

that team of Aaron Cynthia Rei just felt so good lol.
Its literally braindead, you ONLY spam defend order from turn 1, no need to think at all

[random cedar]

I don't think that Brawn gain is even worth the energy lol

30%

For 1PMUN

[icy pendant]

the team I've been using was Colress BiaNCa Rei, -2 rebuff is basically the same as perma zone

there's no clean way to get colress out of that team right?

[cloud timber]

only if the rules nerf sync rush is gridding for pmun worth it

[fluid anvil]

how many syncs did that team manage?

[cloud timber]

especially with leaf blade being adaman's strongest attack

[icy pendant]

I want to say 6 total one of which was Bianca's

[cloud timber]

assuming you use your b moves early for debuffs

[random cedar]

Am I stupid

[icy pendant]

yeah go up the left side not right

the one right below 1 should be selected, not the two stat nodes on the right

[random cedar]

oh I see

But I will need both anyways

[cloud timber]

don't spend 20k orbs for +5 attack

[random cedar]

It's for cs2

[icy pendant]

60k for cs2 though...

[random cedar]

And it's 60k

WORTH

[cloud timber]

60k for cs2 is good

[random cedar]

Will SS Acerola be his best partner even for DC?

[thin wren]

what do ya all think will be optimal for ice aoe

[random cedar]

Is that a question?

[icy pendant]

ngl I kinda like ss lyra exr

[thin wren]

Tbh eh......

[random cedar]

NC Red/Irida/sync spammer

[thin wren]

Yes because irida has some issues in dc

[random cedar]

Just don't queue with her, icy wind is mad slow

[icy pendant]

dc gladion actually has a niche here

[random cedar]

Her bmove is -4 spDef tho

[random cedar]

But no Hail

[thin wren]

hail is....

[random cedar]

Why :c

[random cedar]

Oh true

[thin wren]

not the best in dc

[random cedar]

Sandstorm and hail

[icy pendant]

infinite terrain (something acerola can't do)

[thin wren]

idt ice will be a case of dps over sync but....

[fluid anvil]

Irida wont make the cut for DC .. Red will have to do without her
icy wind is bad
hail is bad

[random cedar]

Maybe for her GT on command, not the field EXR effect

[thin wren]

irida kinda messes up stuff

[random cedar]

You definitely don't wanna sync SS Lyra over Adaman

Then Chase/NC Red/Agatha

Just like the NC Leaf comp

[thin wren]

grusha for ice zone when

[icy pendant]

acerola's gt only lasts 45 seconds though so she's a bit suboptimal

[random cedar]

That's true sadly

[icy pendant]

because then you have to sync with your support to keep terrain up

[thin wren]

first time since release Agatha will get some use

[random cedar]

Could bring Mix Red but idk

[icy pendant]

he doesn't have extension either

just field ex

[random cedar]

Yeah I know, but he at least can refresh with his max move

[fluid anvil]

SS acerola wont make it for the same reason that NC blue wont make it on the best electric team.
sync rush TRUMPS ALL lol

Maybe even Aaron-Cynthia-Adaman will work best ^^

[random cedar]

and max countdown 2

And mini potion!

[icy pendant]

there's maybe something like nc blue sst red and just use him for 2 rebuff and speed

[thin wren]

how good is greta at gt?

[icy pendant]

but then you don't have anything going for sst red's multipliers so maybe not

[random cedar]

She has GT?

[icy pendant]

field ex

[random cedar]

Oh

[thin wren]

I think nc Blue could make it for st elec

[random cedar]

Well sprint makes it okay to use

[thin wren]

and max move

and cd

[random cedar]

but idk if better than a support sprint EX

[icy pendant]

greta has extension locked behind 4/5...

[thin wren]

and aoe sleep

[random cedar]

ewwwwwwww

[cloud timber]

greta sets terrain with max move too

[icy pendant]

at least 4/5 also gets you soften up?

[thin wren]

she gives long enough gt for entire battle

[fluid anvil]

How do you max out cakewalk then? Or just ignore it?

[random cedar]

F2P ST Grass won't be that bad

[thin wren]

oh right kelwalk

......

why do the best elec nukers need speed drops

[icy pendant]

I think you only max out cakewalk so that the enemy moves less often, it looks the same as having 2 rebuff to me

[thin wren]

imagine we got a sync spammer unit whose very fast,1 gauge no anim move,sprint support exr with easy aoe -2 rebuff

[fluid anvil]

There is no way to do Cakewalk fast, its always slow. Will cost you at least 1 sync, if not 2

[icy pendant]

oleana?

maybe by the time electric st rolls around they'll fix the oleana bug too

[fluid anvil]

Oleana is faster true .. but she requires poison for VD, that will add extra animations on every enemy attack.
Plus she doesnt do much after finish debuffing

[icy pendant]

maybe you do ignore it then because there aren't enough team slots

[thin wren]

for aoe elec who do we think will be better, Ash or Hau

[icy pendant]

is it bad if my answer is "yes"

there's a serious potential you use both

[pure stream]

So I just did 353k with Palkia. Does Colress make a huge difference between him and Barry?

[icy pendant]

Hau probably has the better nuke but if Ash doesn't hit 1m on a single move then I'll feel lied to

[random cedar]

Not at all

[lapis yarrow]

So any good potential team comps for Psychic DC?

[icy pendant]

beyond standard sync spam the top theorized damage sources are Jacq, VElio, AnniMay, SS Steven, and Olympia I think in that order
with new spam cores of Redlax/NC Rosa and SS Dawn/SS Steven

[thin wren]

no, just wondering if no seun or rebuff is worth the extra 1 mil from Ash

[thin wren]

nah, ss Steven is at the bottom and Lear is between olympia and him

[fluid anvil]

I actually have no idea if SS Hau can beat Ash in 3v3 or not.
Too bad Ash never got a Tech or Support role

[icy pendant]

Ash has sneaky good multipliers and SS Hau has a B move he kinda needs to use

or find another way to set up kekwalk

[thin wren]

hau has a much stronger sync(kekwalk also isn't too bad for him)

[icy pendant]

hau's actually only like 10% stronger I think

and that's when he has fairy zone set

[cloud timber]

we know lear is worse than olympia already?

lucian has higher output than olympia but the setup and no evasion might take too much time

[thin wren]

doesn't ash only have 160%?

[thin wren]

his damage ain't that much higher and his rising tide is harder to max

[fluid anvil]

Kekwalk is always bad, its never good. Ash WILL have more syncs than Hau and he has that B-move nuke for the end

[thin wren]

hau compresses et tho

[civic island]

Yes, even without cakewalk he got some advantage

[thin wren]

btw the nuke at end will likely hit for 800k without buffs from other elec members

[civic island]

But i think is worth going for it, 3 bmoves, dropping spdef meanwhile

[thin wren]

hau also has his own smun full b move in the end

and it's aoe so total damage is increased 1.5 times

[copper otter]

Use this in the fighting DC rn lmao

[thin wren]

thing is, Ash doesn't compress anything

[cloud timber]

even at only +15 lear will outdamage maxed out olympia along with having soften up available

no evasion will always hold him back a bit

2 tms from elio + maxed crit from larry will +15

and then there's spdef buffs if needed to boost a bit further

[latent plover]

Only issue is that you waste super effective up next early

Also good to sync with Cynthia later so Rei's last syncs would be zone boosted

[latent plover]

Hau has a stronger sync and can summon basically infinite terrain

[thin wren]

you could mpr fish

[latent plover]

Yeah. I would reset for an mpr

[thin wren]

not to mention he stacks smun for one giant final sync

[latent plover]

Also true. Ash wants Blue and Red but neither spam moves

[icy pendant]

Ash doesn't need Blue necessarily, that's the more flex slot

[civic island]

Meanwhile ssPiers

[thin wren]

hau can afford blue or seun

[civic island]

Probably blue, for extra smun, it also help reaching -5 spdef

[icy pendant]

blue also essentially gives you seun without needing to spend the time repeatedly applying seun right

[thin wren]

yeh

[icy pendant]

the more the merrier but then you also have to spend the third slot on a singer at that point for fast syncs, compared to someone who can apply seun

[thin wren]

wait e terrain makes sleep automatically 0 animation

[civic island]

Yep

[thin wren]

could hau afford a sleep sync rush unit?

[icy pendant]

I thought we were budgeting that in already

[thin wren]

Just gotta confirm

hau also buffs team speed

[civic island]

He could but paralyzing everyone and -6 speed is going to plummet enemy gauge

[thin wren]

so gauge shouldn't be an issue

[thin wren]

nc blue already deals with para

[icy pendant]

just reset for triple para right

[thin wren]

even double is fine

blue gets hse

[civic island]

Ik, I tought you were going to swap him for an accel unit

[thin wren]

no

[icy pendant]

should be something like nc blue ss hau melony

[thin wren]

blue also handles hau's missing stats

[icy pendant]

I don't know if that quite hits 7 syncs, it's probably only 6

[thin wren]

can anyone test how fast this team sync spams

I do have 3/5 ss hau but no nc Blue so can't test this

[civic island]

No ssHau