High Score

[neon prawn]

you can redeem your ground and electric hses

[oak fulcrum]

meanwhile today I think I got brycen number 7

[onyx current]

Elesa debuffs everything but Eva and Accuracy so she doesn't debuff all stats

[haughty haven]

SS Hau, H Skyla, SS Korrina

[paper mist]

Link you'll thank Pykuo later

[neon prawn]

......

........

[haughty haven]

Oh ty ( More text)

[outer whale]

I only got one spark on daily.

it was Hilda

[neon prawn]

I am taking so much emotional damage

[paper mist]

also couldn't you just copy+paste all the info from the previous docs and just add in the Awaken stuff afterwards?

[neon prawn]

what move level are your units for this hse

[outer whale]

It wasn't as detailed in the past

especially Elec

[haughty haven]

I rework it a bit too

[outer whale]

each iteration of the HSE was improved upon in some way

[paper mist]

i c

[haughty haven]

Mostly just separate Team/Self tool to survive

[neon prawn]

(everything is ex) everything is 3/5 except Mucas and h jasmine and marnie who are 1/5, 4/5 rika and iono and 5/5 ASC and N. Does top 500 look possible?

[paper mist]

Raikou has stat debuffs

[outer whale]

to show you the difference.

This was the first HSE's format....

[neon prawn]

only 1 S

[outer whale]

from that iteration.... to this.

[oak fulcrum]

oh right I'm home now, I'd say I have a decent roster

[onyx current]

Tbf water supports are mid even Kris is

[neon prawn]

is there a hse stat per str guide anywhere

[neon prawn]

-has everything
a "decent" roster

[oak fulcrum]

Lost's infographic shows how much 1 str corresponds to as a stat increase

[neon prawn]

thx

[oak fulcrum]

Look at that VGio move level!!

also Classic Elesa!

[haughty haven]

How much does it give to Thunder Fang ?

[oak fulcrum]

I think HE9?

[neon prawn]

100%

[paper mist]

I don't have Vris, Ash, Emmet or Adaman

[haughty haven]

oh ty

[paper mist]

Emmet may be a Select choice

[onyx current]

what percent flinch is it

[neon prawn]

I don't think Adam wil be that relevant

[haughty haven]

10% at base

And 40% with Ag3 (2/5)

[neon prawn]

is vris useful at all

if I have ss hau

[onyx current]

Nemona and Vris were useful last time due to team evasive manuevers sync

[neon prawn]

and plan to get ss piers

[oak fulcrum]

Nowadays probably not? There's better ET setters and that's one of two niches she has, the other being evasion buffs

[paper mist]

you can put piers with vris so she can always have ET up for sync

[neon prawn]

so many mons this time have evasion

[paper mist]

otherwise no extension means it runs out before

[neon prawn]

wish she debuffed special defense

[onyx current]

her grid is so annoying

Wish you were able to take all mults

[paper mist]

I didn't have Vris (still don't), Ash (still don't) or cElesa last time. I had N but he was 1/5 which wasn't useful (he's 4/5 now which is...better)

[neon prawn]

last time there was no chase

[outer whale]

Unironically, I think i might get top 500, idk.

[onyx current]

3/5 that rika

[paper mist]

no chase no iono no liono no piers no petey no emmet

oh wait I didn't have Nemona either

remember how Clemont got a grid expansion the month after Elec HSE ended

like thanks DeNA

[neon prawn]

Just need rika , sstr and ASC move levels

[paper mist]

I know I can get t500 but t100 without Ash or 3/5 Emmet and Raiham means prob not

[outer whale]

I have 3 omni, 1 support, and...... no tech candies.

[neon prawn]

you will get 1 more support and tech by the time hse arrives

then you could 3/5 everyone I mentioned

[onyx current]

I am cooked (idk how people make it so other types dont show)

[outer whale]

i don't think that's even needed though

Arc cynthia at 1/5 could 1000 str

[onyx current]

I have that selected

[haughty haven]

And choose Electric and Ground

[haughty haven]

Oh type one

I only use Role

[onyx current]

I feel like this game wants me to 3/5 Nita

[paper mist]

I shouldn't need to use Nita this time

[onyx current]

5/5 mucas wthj

[paper mist]

he's actually 4/5 rn but he'll be 5/5 soon

[onyx current]

Wonder if DCHop is worth getting

[neon prawn]

wtf.

[neon prawn]

yeah that's a bit rough

[onyx current]

I still have not 5/5'd CElesa til

I thought she was

[paper mist]

he has Flinch, Paralysis, Recover for some reason, Atk & Def debuffs vs Paralyzed opponents, Elec Guard on grid, extra random debuffs on grid

he'll be decent in an all-physical stage

[neon prawn]

wish he had discharge instead of t wave

[acoustic quarry]

oh boy

the memories

[neon prawn]

imagine if we get damage challenge param

do very high damage with a single hit for bonus points

[idle plinth]

Damage Challenge Param: Beat the stage at 1k within 3 mins

[idle plinth]

Decided who to pick on the mix pity

#gacha-and-flex message

[deft trout]

I have 300 paid gems atm and i’m at 281 mix pity. I will select ss piers later on

[storm vector]

lol

[idle plinth]

[grand perch]

lol

Lmao even

[cyan tusk]

Tbh I don’t see him being that much relevant considering the huge amount of dps we have among ground and electric. Which would be your other options?

[tiny ore]

ss piers has shown up in select scouts too so...

i wouldnt waste a mix pity on him

he aint worth it

but i also grabbed him from a select bc of his piercing blows

[storm vector]

piers… piercing blows…

get it

so funny ikr haha

[tiny ore]

https://youtu.be/4VTBMznLrWs?si=MpB6fLWSYpLDy3G_

like im hoping lg comes back in the next update?

bc otherwise he is kinda meh

he's ok but i have better options for what he does outside of electric hse

geeta and sst red got me covered

[outer whale]

My current plan right now, going to exr these folk with the green line.

[haughty haven]

I still dont have Mucas

[outer whale]

He's only 1/5. But i'm sure he'll be fine paired with another DDer. I just want him for zone essentially

And i technically COULD 10/5 ss gio but meh?

I'd rather save my lollipops for someone who gains a massive boon from it

[storm vector]

wait until stages are announced lol

gioking is HUGE if poison/ground/steel weak mid

otherwise he's mid

[outer whale]

I'm not doing it now, I'm just looking at my options

[haughty haven]

Finish all Electric pairs (not egg mon uh role ?)

[outer whale]

Fall roxanne, arc cynthia, ash, sst red, ss hau, and SS Pier is more than enough to secure top 500 alone

[outer whale]

Eggmons, i'll do, they're pretty easy anyways

since most of them won't be used much anyways

[idle plinth]

If datamine is poop, I may roll on double Toxtricity banner

Assuming I don't go for Atticus

[deft trout]

i'm only lacking ss piers as a damage dealer

[deft trout]

in this list

[outer whale]

As someone with ss piers 3/5. He's better as utility than damage

[deft trout]

is that why he's tiered as a dd /s

during half anni selects, what were the most recent pairs before?

every pf before half anni?

[tidal pine]

last year had Chase in one of the selects during half anni

[tiny ore]

his dps is ok

his nuke is also ok but nothing special

like you probably have better things to sync w/

if you want dmg

[onyx crystal]

selects now a days, don't have date cutoffs. as long as the PF debut banner isn't currently running, it's included

it mainly is a matter of theme or role that limits the pools

[paper mist]

inb4 anti-strike/physical parameter (aka what screwed him over last time)

[paper mist]

paulo continually getting shafted bc no Sprint banners and no Pasio banners

[paper mist]

iono and grusha were also in the 10 ticket scout for half anni as well

only reason Chase wasn't was cause his banner was still up at the time like Sages said

[tidal pine]

True

[deft trout]

So atticus can be in region select in half anni?

[paper mist]

yeah

Paldea was included last time cause Grusha was on the banner preview

it was 3 per banner (I doubt Pasio will ever get one) by game region order (so kanto + johto + hoenn, Sinnoh + unova etc etc)

[haughty haven]

• Me wrote 2/5
• My Tablet: oh 215 got it

[outer whale]

215 is a lot of investment

[mortal timber]

[cunning shore]

Surely hax with all that investment

[cyan tusk]

Uh mix Lucas is going to be interesting to use

I could see him in a Roxanne + rika team for 1K

Leaving arc Cynthia into another team for a 2nd 1K

[outer whale]

I expect 1k for all 5 modes to be possible provided rules aren't hell

Sshau, Red, Ash, NC Blue, Iono, and even SS Emmet.... yea no, 1K for all 5 battles is possible

[night sleet]

Ash you can put in trash this day

You sure have no need of him

Electric rooster is cooked

Plus we get arc electric on half ani

Since ground was cynthia

1k str when we have god tier sups

Like nc blue iono chase jasmine

Its easy

[paper mist]

I doubt we're getting an Elec Arc in March

[night sleet]

Half ani is hse so arc unit should be 1/2

Ground arc was befor now electric should be then

We can get red and pika arc

[paper mist]

I mean we expected Bug due to Bug Arc still unused in the files, but we didn't get Bug HSE

since they're repeating types already Bug/Dark could have been it instead too

[cyan tusk]

It can be a masterfair too

[paper mist]

that's possible, yeah

and I know just the legendary that fits

[night sleet]

Mf or arc for hse should be

[paper mist]

if we only get 2 arc at half anni I can see them pulling another SSGladion

however I want to be biased and have them rereun the Weather trio with 5/5s since Maxie is Ground

[cyan tusk]

Uh next hse is half anni hse

[night sleet]

Yeap

So we prob fight anni units🤣

Like was 5 ani hse

Can be 3 sync pairs then

[acoustic quarry]

Really? 😮

[night sleet]

Look on electric rooster

Sa 5/5 grids exrs

Where is ash vs them

Sa n way better then ash

[cyan tusk]

I still think ash will have some use imo

[outer whale]

Double endure will absolutely save a run

[cyan tusk]

The protect too. But my thought where going on a no tech area

Ash + sspiers

(And NcBlue)

[outer whale]

No techs will 100% be a rule

Way too many ground and elec techs that they would do that to make life harder

[cyan tusk]

For ground we had maxie and Nita

Let me go back to electric

[outer whale]

Wasn't marnie the worst?

[cyan tusk]

Marnie was the first 1K

#1131333081870118982 message

Surge and volkner were WAAAAY worst

No healing

And the dammit rotom with discharge

[outer whale]

Oh boy

I hope we get Maxie again with the same rule, that will be the easiest 1k ever

[cyan tusk]

Surge was no healing
Volkner was no rule
Clemont was no tech
Elesa was status condition to deal dmg
Marnie I don’t remember maybe no physical attacks

[outer whale]

Clemont will be the rerun

[cyan tusk]

I think surge volkner Clemont + maxie and Nita

[paper mist]

correct for Marnie

I remember using SS Hau against her because she was Fairy weak and I had only base Hau to use with him because there's weirdly few Special attacking Electrics

I feel like N is going to rerun because Zekrom is also Electric, and in the Dragon HSE I think he had an Elec sync? And Maxie will be taken out specifically because it was so easy to get 1k against him last time

I can see Clemont, Surge, N, Nita and they make a new one for Ground

[tidal pine]

I honestly didn’t remember Surge having that no Healing rule

[paper mist]

he did and it sucked

[tidal pine]

But tbf I was kinda lazy during that HSE

I do remember Water HSE Lana and Fire HSE Flint having that rule

[paper mist]

I had nobody left to use against him so I was forced to DPS with 1/5 NYVolkner and sync nuke with pre-PB Clemont

my score like only 35k

[tidal pine]

I mostly remember that HSE the most for having the less hit = more points rule

[cyan tusk]

I remember praying for Elesa using only wild charge bc I had electric guard

[paper mist]

which was rly annoying cause SSTR and SSHau both had AoE moves and other options had stuff like Discharge

[tidal pine]

I don’t really have anything saved from that (and the Fire one), and my memories of the Electric one is pretty blank

[mortal timber]

the bp sophocles strats man

better scores than many N clears

deserved tbh

last word too good

[paper mist]

N also wasn't that good back then either tbf

[mortal timber]

wonderful

electric is where i performed best so far, 24th

[paper mist]

I'm not sure which one was my worst cause I forgot to SS my final Fire score and rank

[haughty haven]

Meanwhile Electric is my worst performance

idk why i trusted 1/5 N lol

[cyan tusk]

Electric hse is why my Sophocles is 20/20

And I’m stopping here.

[mortal timber]

lt surge tank man

and the ss hau diff

also with og hau i won till 950 str

sadly he doesn't have much hp

and i think skill gear wasn't yet a thing

i am sure with skill gear 1000 str og hau would have been a thing

[cyan tusk]

Somebody did 1K with HJasmine/SsElesa/SShau iirc

[tidal pine]

Skill Gears was added like 2 weeks after the HSE is over?

[mortal timber]

i don't remember

[cyan tusk]

Something like that yes

[paper mist]

compared to my roster now where I have 4/5 SSHau, 2/5 NYVolkner, 4/5 N, 4/5 Marnie, 5/5 Chase, 4/5 Piers, 2/5 Iono, 3/5 CElesa, Nemona, Raikou and DCHop (and petey and lodge iono and lodge volk but who cares)

[cyan tusk]

Now plz expand SSElesa grid next month PLEASE

[haughty haven]

Before Fire HSE ?

[tidal pine]

Also looked at the spreadsheet for some throwback, and lol the description were much simpler back then

[mortal timber]

that and give me the same marnie stage please

can't wait to see the speed difference in clear with SA hehe

[cyan tusk]

Consider the only ex role back in the days where the Kanto trio birbs

[mortal timber]

oh sstr didn't have it yet?

lol

this is gonna be so fun haha

[haughty haven]

I remember back then cake was a premium thing

[tidal pine]

Yep yep

Actually, I’m kinda looking forward for the Electric runback

[haughty haven]

I hope i can get top 100 just bc Electric and Ground/Dragon are the only 2 HSE i didnt get top 100

[mortal timber]

of important i miss iono and chase ngl, chase gonna be a significant one

it's your revenge arc mr spheal

[paper mist]

it would actually be really funny if we got no Ground bosses and its just the same 5 Elec bosses again

I know it won't happen but

[mortal timber]

get them medals

[paper mist]

I should be fine for top 500

[tidal pine]

I’m pretty confident in Mr.Spheal too

[mortal timber]

can't wait to delete a stage with SA SS Hau man

i am just waiting for that

[paper mist]

Pykuo gets revenge against Electric types who fry Spheals

[cyan tusk]

Pykuo we have to unleash our new sandaconda powers

[mortal timber]

eh sandaconda gonna be good fr

[paper mist]

I plan on caking SSHau for the HSE but otherwise idk. I might not use Raihan since I can't really candy him and I would have to see if I even use N to cake him

[cyan tusk]

Sandaconda has those juicy debuffs with paralysis

Even at 1/5

[paper mist]

he does, but his defensive buffs are 3/5 locked

[tidal pine]

I’m kinda curious how I would do considering I’m missing Chase (I likely get him from the half anni selects), NY Raihan. And I feel SS Emmet might be important too somewhere

[paper mist]

and evasion-based so you're unlikely to have max buffs by their 1st sync

[haughty haven]

He just weird

[paper mist]

Emmet's Ground Rebuff and Flinching will make him important, hopefully we still get Regional Selects this year

[mortal timber]

forgot ss emmet exists lol

boring ass month their release

[cyan tusk]

Emmet my next investment after rika

[mortal timber]

i just pretend he doesn't exist

[cyan tusk]

He even has tm mpr lmao

[mortal timber]

fake ass unit

[tidal pine]

tbf SS Emmet I feel was largely overshadowed by other units at the time

[mortal timber]

hopefully

[haughty haven]

I didn’t know what he does until made a sheet lol

[mortal timber]

same boat pykuo

[onyx current]

What if sstr was mid is emmet

[mortal timber]

i am only concerned for not having chase

ss emmet i won't care

[haughty haven]

Chase’ll be important yeah

[paper mist]

me with my 5/5 caked chase

thanks mix and that one sprint cake banner

10/5 chase will be amazing for it

[haughty haven]

Surely Nemona’ll be important

[mortal timber]

depends, last time flinches were kinda clutch

the rest was ash carry

at least where i deployed her

[paper mist]

team endure and SyMUN spam

[haughty haven]

My fun with her was no dmg taken against Surge

[paper mist]

the SyMUN isn't even circle reliant

[paper mist]

use him with someone like caked SSHau

(I won't be making anyone Woke for this most likely though)

[mortal timber]

i did it twice and not even on purpose lol

so fucking funny

dena knew what i was doing

[haughty haven]

Surely Anni Steven’ll get good stuffs at 4-5/5

[paper mist]

the only Woke pairs I have rn are Eri, Cynthia (6/5) and Steven (6/5) and the latter two was only bc they were already 5/5 and the lollipops were 1k lol

[mortal timber]

look, if Anni N got that sad stuff i have no hope

[paper mist]

I have like 4 lollipops rn but I don't know who I'll use them on

[paper mist]

tbf not all buffs are created equal

see: Kris vs Grimsley or like, Ethan

[tidal pine]

I suppose Anni N’s EXR is great

[paper mist]

it is, he wanted Strike the most iirc

[haughty haven]

Meanwhile look at C Iris

[mortal timber]

it is his best choice

[haughty haven]

She’d be amazing with Striker

[tidal pine]

I want to mention her too

[haughty haven]

[mortal timber]

steven's problem is no matter which role it will suck

and if the bars of these new passives is this low

i dunno man

[haughty haven]

+200 more atk and he’ll be usable

[tiny ore]

grimsley and ethan aint terrible buffs for us LG players btw

[mortal timber]

they could have done way more and way better

[haughty haven]

[onyx current]

Really hoping for Calem to get -1 rebuff on the target of his bmove

[mortal timber]

they shouldn't have given just two nodes as starting point for that

calem can stay where he deserves to be tbh

fraud masterfair

[onyx current]

):

He’d be way funnier with -1 water/dark rebuff on his whole team

[paper mist]

if I had a nickel for every time they gave a Champion Dragon Tech PF, who had a kit based around debuffs, a Sprint EXR over Strike I'd have 2 nickels, which isn't a lot but its weird it happened twice.

[mortal timber]

jokes aside, it can be funny with that

[haughty haven]

I want Calem can actually buff Def/SpDef

[mortal timber]

but i think he has other issue

[haughty haven]

Not just by dodging

[mortal timber]

that

bulk, defense buffs

give smth

[onyx current]

Tmw you need another dark master fair support for Calem to buff defenses

Said support already buffs defensds

[haughty haven]

And buff very fast too

In 2 turns

And has Dark Zone too

[mortal timber]

like i remember watching dark ghost hse clears

[haughty haven]

[onyx current]

And can buff offenses

[mortal timber]

my guy calem was struggling for his life

[haughty haven]

And protect team way better

And can deal dmg too

[onyx current]

Has extended zone

[haughty haven]

And heal a lot

[mortal timber]

also another stupid decision was giving him tech

[paper mist]

Gio will be amazing for Dark HSE rerun

[mortal timber]

what an absolute missed occasion

[onyx current]

Buffs sync mun way better

[paper mist]

cursed by getting EXR before SSTR/SSAC got theirs

[mortal timber]

real

[haughty haven]

At least not Striker

[mortal timber]

imagine hahaha

[tidal pine]

Yea, honestly a shame how hard he fell off really

[onyx current]

This is why they need to continue the kit mirroring with Cerena and CCalem 5/5
Zerena gets Rainy Hit on water bmove and Dark zone when dark form while Calem gets -1 dark or water rebuff to himself

It’s a vital opportunity

[paper mist]

Calem's a male MC who isn't Red

[tidal pine]

Probably one of the biggest pairs fall offs in general

[paper mist]

good luck

[mortal timber]

but yeah i hope masterfairs who deserve a hand actually get smth good

anni n at least got his ex role

[paper mist]

Archie Maxie godly buffs pls and thank

[mortal timber]

the passives are undoubtely not worth sadly

[onyx current]

My two favorite protags are Calem and Ethan im going to need a lot more than that lol

[haughty haven]

What Anni Lillie even want ?

[mortal timber]

anni lillie nothing

[onyx current]

Rising tide 2

[mortal timber]

the main fraud

[paper mist]

damage multipliers

[tidal pine]

Anni Lillie wants multipliers really

[paper mist]

she's probably gonna get replaced by Arc Suit Lillie & Lunala anyway if Leon is any indication

[onyx current]

Rising tide and the passive anni Steven has

Good form

[haughty haven]

Imagine they give her Endure and more tanky stuffs

[onyx current]

Easier lg solos lets go

[mortal timber]

i am still waiting for her to do smth in UBs, i guess her only real chance is ghost weak

[haughty haven]

For LG, i want stuffs like MGR 9 lol

[onyx current]

She got a. Good exr but nothing else

[paper mist]

I think they're just gonna focus on her being on-type so she'll get like, SDE7 and Super Freebie 9

[tidal pine]

yea

[onyx current]

I see it

[mortal timber]

but yeah, i honestly expect the worst from now on

so i won't get disappointed

[paper mist]

same

ignore my hopium for Archie

[mortal timber]

like, i very hope i can be wrong on being this pessimistic but yeah

[paper mist]

Gio's 5/5 is really good so it might just be another case of hit or miss with N

[mortal timber]

sometimes i think they don't even know what some units do

[paper mist]

probably not

[mortal timber]

cuz there is no way you fumble with some units like ciris like that

[onyx current]

Please don’t give him any more sync stuff just give him extension 3

[paper mist]

he needs to sync to reach Primal Reversion

[mortal timber]

honestly i hope primals are given to nc hoenn

[paper mist]

and Primal can change his base passives to stronger versions

[cyan tusk]

We still have to wait till 5.5 anni data to know hse details

[mortal timber]

primal groudon nc anni

mmmmmmm

[tidal pine]

I personally expect a more utility approach for Archie

[onyx current]

If they’re not given new passives I don’t want primal

[mortal timber]

primal reversion on entry like in main games and ggs

[onyx current]

Like Brendan is held back by no passive upon sync

[paper mist]

eh, Zerena has to Sync to get Complete form so I expect the same for any Primals we get

[tidal pine]

He’s almost close to eligible for a horizontal expansion (assuming Master Fair pairs gets theirs at some point)

[paper mist]

when it doesn't really work like that in the main games

[mortal timber]

still waiting fot his horizontal expansion

mr brendan

waited almost 4 years for his mega, i am not scared anymore haha

[paper mist]

also remember that Leon also got Max moves suddenly, they can do the same for our weather men

do it next month, run them with Anni Steven's 5/5

[tidal pine]

I want to say he’s the only day 1 gacha 5* without one, but then remembered Olivia didn’t have hers currently too

[mortal timber]

mr 647 atk but bullet seed without no quarter

what a legend

[paper mist]

he'll get No Quarter and Dauntless on his PoMa Day grid, trust

[mortal timber]

647 i think via some atk nodes and stuff

iirc

[haughty haven]

Lucky his Sync is Physical

[mortal timber]

but since he got inertia i always used him like that

[haughty haven]

And not getting mega tax too lol

[mortal timber]

yeah i don't run sun brendan anymore

fast stages, one sync, one shot, gone

[mortal timber]

that and no tax for leaf blade

unlike a certain someone named selene iirc

[onyx current]

Greta mention??

[mortal timber]

🙏

i don't have her, how is she

illuminate me

[onyx current]

I like her cause breloom soon to be 10/5

[paper mist]

leaf blade?

[mortal timber]

breloom is super cool

breloom ludicolo and many other grass have a special place

[cyan tusk]

Sunny disposition

[paper mist]

probably critical eye on dire hit like some of the others got

oh yeah, speaking of grass...

double rerun types means Grass/Fire HSE is on the table

[deft trout]

Blaze it

[paper mist]

we're already getting 4 HSE where one type had the advantage over the other, but those 2 means more Sun abuse

[acoustic quarry]

Looks def like a top 100 rolling spheal)( i assume ull get lucas mix also)

[haughty haven]

Nope haha

[neon prawn]

any plans on getting ss emmet? otherwise you just need move levels

[haughty haven]

I dont think i want SS Emmet tbh

[paper mist]

oh Pykuo doesn't have Ash Mucas or vGio, there's a chance for me

[outer whale]

what Pykuo doesn't have, I have all three

[cyan tusk]

he will still rank higher

[paper mist]

I don't have Ash either tho

[tiny ore]

ash has never rerun

[paper mist]

good

[tiny ore]

update tonight i think

[outer whale]

do they update on friday nights?

i don't believe so

they'll update monday or tuesday

[sullen pier]

Pykuo is built different

[paper mist]

wednesday

[cyan tusk]

Monday

So we have new event by Wednesday

[paper mist]

31 days means we can get a new event next friday

[mortal timber]

Silly question, I just got at very random 4/5 Ingo, any notable difference or are the good things at 5/5?

[haughty haven]

No, i’ll say his 5/5 is one of the worst 5/5 i have even seen lol

[mortal timber]

Gotchu, gonna leave him like this, Ty pykuo

[cyan tusk]

Team hit and heal on sandstorm is really good imo

5/5 is trash

[tidal pine]

Yea, I looked at his grid again. And yea his 5/5 doesn’t provide much

[mortal timber]

Thanks a bunch to both ❤️

[night sleet]

Ingo can be 3/5 too

He have alot heal option any way

[mortal timber]

Eh found 4/5 by pulling that's why I was asking haha 😂

[paper mist]

Skip 5/5 and go for 10/5

[cyan tusk]

Ingo 10/5 is the cheap version of rika 10/5

[neon prawn]

I want fire hse to come back soon

[glossy ravine]

The cheap version?

[neon prawn]

can he even do half the things rika does?

genuinely

he doesn't even have any offensive debuffs iirc

[glossy ravine]

They do different things

He has sand slinger

Fwiw

[neon prawn]

fair

oh

then ig he's discount rika

[glossy ravine]

Again, different things

Ingo doesn't mess up your queue and also has better synergy with something like Bertha

Unless she's no longer valid kek

[paper mist]

not me bc I don't have ASLeon

oh Rika 10/5 gets another B move use

[outer whale]

I feel like 10/5 will be overkill especially when we have the electric roster to work with too

[neon prawn]

I think I am only missing hilda and mela and might get the latter

[neon prawn]

10/5 might not be overkill if you don't have Ash

[outer whale]

even without ash you have:
Iono, Red, SS Emmet, N, Chase, NC Blue, SS Hau, and many more that can fufill Ash's role

N has gotten significant upgrades too. field EXR buffed him massively

[neon prawn]

field might bite him back tbh

wait he isn't ground weak

nvm he won't be punished on ground stages

[outer whale]

I will keep an eye on Ground weak mons, that will be a major factor

I am ALSO EXPECTING a rule to reduce physical or special damage

I hope it's not special.

[storm vector]

what do you guys think about off type coverage moves this round

[outer whale]

imagine Electric weak..... but Special Weak

[storm vector]

i'm looking at ss gio

[outer whale]

Vgio too

[storm vector]

physically impossible

since all mons have to be part electric or part ground

[outer whale]

that's true

although.....

hmm

part of me was thinking ground flying gliscor, but that would most likely be water weak

[oak fulcrum]

or they actually recognize its 4x weakness and make it ice weak

[neon prawn]

we have a lot of mons weak to the other type this time cuz there are so many pure electric mons

[neon prawn]

why, we have more physical units than special this time

[outer whale]

special limits the electric roster for F2P players

and ground is pretty.....

outside of limited units

my main concern isn't how difficult the battles can be, it's moreso, how accessible it will be for players wanting just the rewards.

[paper mist]

will happen. Last time, Marnie was Fairy-weak which made SSHau the best option for her since he has Zone and multiple multipiers for Dazzling Gleam, today his EXR can take out the sides

[outer whale]

If N Zekrom, he could be ice weak.

[paper mist]

10/5 is even better since his Zone will further increase his (and ally) damage

[outer whale]

good for Vgio

[paper mist]

Whimsical Power 9 plus his innate Team Power Induction + innate Zone damage + if 10/5 more Zone damage + Hunter's Instinct if you can get someone else to debuff Speed or just use his B move for the Speed buffs

though realistically you can't grab all of these and still have infinite ET

[outer whale]

I just realized.... we have a unit that would see action for once.

Volkner gaming

also, any chance for a poison weak stage?

[paper mist]

if they made Hau a boss with Koko, yes

[outer whale]

or even dark weak

[paper mist]

Dark weak was Volkner last time

Marnie was recommended vs him because of it

[outer whale]

.....wait..... what did he have?

[paper mist]

Rotom

why? yes

[outer whale]

huh.....

weird.

[tiny ore]

really desperate for gioking to be relevant?

[outer whale]

no, i'm just looking at move types.

[outer whale]

was also looking at SS Piers

poison Zone + sludge bomb

[paper mist]

I dunno if Sludge Bomb would be worth using over his B move

his B move doesn't have AoE penalty

[outer whale]

[haughty haven]

Yeah, his B Move is very good

[outer whale]

Also....

Perhaps i treated you too harshly last Ground HSE.....

[haughty haven]

Remember he can reach 2m with dps in DC

[outer whale]

the problem with that is that it's SE.

there most likely won't be Elec weak for this HSE

[haughty haven]

Yes, but when you count other DC stage too, it is still really good

Then you look at Sludge Bomb …..

Just not worth

[outer whale]

it's trying 😭

believe in the 30% poison

[paper mist]

Sludge Bomb does have more multipliers (Power Induction 5) but B move's base power is almost double that of Bomb's before the 20% power increase vs Status'd opponents (which we'll probably need for a 1k Bonus)

[outer whale]

but aside from that, I wouldn't want to raise anyone up just yet simply because we have so many options.

[haughty haven]

Idk, he is really with pair like C Elesa

[mortal warren]

Not a single electric weak stage good lord, pack it up.

[haughty haven]

Bc he doesn’t need Sync to deal dmg

So C Elesa can do it

[paper mist]

its impossible to have an elec-weak stage here

[haughty haven]

He also deals consistent Aoe dmg, with is very needed for C Elesa

[paper mist]

elec resists itself and ground is immune

[outer whale]

this would be the best timeline for this upcoming HSE

[mortal warren]

How trash

[haughty haven]

How about Lt Surge ?

[storm vector]

it may finally be his time to shine...

https://tenor.com/view/stunfisk-gif-20662117

[outer whale]

No.

No.

[storm vector]

hi grusha

died 2023 born 2025

[haughty haven]

Also i hate Volner’s stage btw

He spamed too much Swift

[paper mist]

finally SSGio not nerfed (and then nobody uses him bc better options)

[outer whale]

I'd use Arc Cynthia somewhere else.

[mortal timber]

Marnie should return

That stage was easy af

[outer whale]

Marnie definitely feels like she will.

[paper mist]

meant more like vGio, Mucas, SCAdaman, Maxie and base Cynthia

[outer whale]

My thought process is
Clemont
Marnie
New Battle (SS Emmet maybe?)
Maxie
Nita

[storm vector]

4 rerun stages

hmm

[paper mist]

Surge will return, accept it in your heart

[storm vector]

im feeling more like 2 rerun 3 new

[outer whale]

https://tenor.com/view/zane-ninjago-lego-ninjago-death-fail-gif-22975365

[storm vector]

what were the point parameters last electric hse

[paper mist]

both types are reruns, I don't see them expending more resources instead of just using stages

[outer whale]

uhhh

[paper mist]

Paralysis and uhhhhhhhhh

I think GL

[haughty haven]

Surge isn’t the problem tbh ~~Ready to see no healing stage again ~~

[storm vector]

last ground dragon had battle facility foe and champion

[tidal pine]

I know there was the less hits = more points one

[storm vector]

two annoying bonuses to get

[haughty haven]

Yeah, it is so fk up

[paper mist]

Time Trial, Stat Debuffs, Fewer Attacks
Unova/Alola + Paralysis

[outer whale]

[tidal pine]

that was actually a thing

[outer whale]

get penalized for 1000 str ig

[mortal timber]

Fewer attacks, looks at the old 1000 str marnie clear with discharge and b electroweb

Yup

[tidal pine]

it only happened once tho

[haughty haven]

Lovely

[paper mist]

tfw SS Hau and SSTR want to use their AoE moves

[tidal pine]

would be funny if they would bring that back

[haughty haven]

They must use lol

[tidal pine]

In a type combo full of AoE move options

[paper mist]

would be worse here cause most pairs are packing Earthquakes and Bulldozes too

[haughty haven]

Hau only has Aoe move

[outer whale]

imagine Fewer atta ks, but everyone is ground weak, and you're forced to use Earthquake

[haughty haven]

With Red has his B Move and Thunder Shock

[mortal timber]

Trust thundershock ramming speed

[haughty haven]

SS Hau

[mortal timber]

Go back to og

[outer whale]

LMFAO

[haughty haven]

[outer whale]

Beat HSE in 10 hits, good luck

[paper mist]

when was the last time we even saw that anyway?

[haughty haven]

Goodluck to beat 1000 Str in less than 10 hits lol

[glossy ravine]

just use the sing spam method

[outer whale]

electric

[tidal pine]

Electric HSE

[glossy ravine]

[neon prawn]

I hope total hits doesn't return

[outer whale]

bro at the point, you might as well do DC strats

[neon prawn]

could status spam sync be somewhat usable this time

[haughty haven]

But Enemy hit too hard and way faster too

[neon prawn]

if fewer attacks does return

[haughty haven]

Imagine that and time conditions

[neon prawn]

we but the Pokemon is already statused, but the Pokemon is already statused, but the Pokemon is already statused, but the Pokemon is already statused, with this one

[neon prawn]

simply dodge everything 🔥

[neon prawn]

simply dodge everything 🔥

[haughty haven]

Why 2 pings ?

[neon prawn]

discord is bugging

[haughty haven]

~~Also you still know me right? ~~

[paper mist]

no

we don't know red letter

[haughty haven]

[neon prawn]

Yes your pfp makes it very obvious

[haughty haven]

Good

[paper mist]

NYRaihan Rock Slide DPS gaming

[haughty haven]

Idk if i should use him as a solo tank or sup tank tbh

[paper mist]

SSGio Iron Tail gaming

[haughty haven]

He both wants to get hit and dodge

[outer whale]

oh god, I forgot i made this.

[haughty haven]

Now you have more time to cook it

[outer whale]

i didn't even do rock/Ice

[haughty haven]

I missed it ngl

Yeah

That why i missed it

[outer whale]

I've been busy with moving so I couldn't do much

like, genuinely, I would have done it, if it weren't for the fact that I work all week. then that saturday i spent all day moving, by the time HSE ended, I was trying to recuperate

[haughty haven]

Imagine next HSE last in a week

[paper mist]

wonder if it'll last more than 9 days this time

[haughty haven]

Let see if LG last more than 9 days

If it happen next month

[paper mist]

lets see if LG exists

[haughty haven]

Ngl, i cant wait to see the “guide” thing

[outer whale]

why was thise HSE even 9 days to begin with

usually HSE is 15-21 days

[haughty haven]

Ask Super Sparring

It also lasts 9 days

[outer whale]

didn't they run both at the same time once?

[haughty haven]

No ?

[outer whale]

i thought during 5th anni

i guess not?

[paper mist]

nah SS is usually near the end of the month

[haughty haven]

I dont remember we have both try hard events in the same day

[tidal pine]

me neither

[tidal pine]

I checked on that month it started on August 30th, and HSE started on September 10th

[mortal timber]

My last appearance

[paper mist]

pls let this hse redeem Maxie and SSGio

if we get a new Ground boss they could make them Grass weak for Solarbeam

actually, Maxie would be decent against Surge since he has 1 Ground and 1 Grass weak sides

[cyan tusk]

Btw my 2 cents is that we will get only rerun stages

Lt surge
Volkner
Nita
Maxie
N

[paper mist]

same

glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks N is gonna get pushed a 3rd time cause Zekrom happens to be Elec

would prefer a Clemont stage tho, but I think him having x2 Ground weak mons would be why we don't get it. Would be way too free.

[tiny ore]

iirc nemona hasnt gottrn a rerun yet

[paper mist]

she most likely will to get EXR, same for Marnie

[tame bridge]

what next hse

[idle plinth]

Electric/Ground

[cyan tusk]

Btw it is a really interesting combo and if they rerun the previous stages, it’s gonna be all about the parameters they are gonna give us

please no time trial, please please

[haughty haven]

How about less hit ?

[cyan tusk]

Im just gonna smash the tm mpr on SSElesa and Nemona

[neon prawn]

I was gonna say that

[neon prawn]

or do dc sync spam

imagine we get more sync

[acoustic quarry]

I was legit thinking yestrday in my bed

[cyan tusk]

Id love to get buff / debuff / number of hits/ tech nuke / even hp tbh

[acoustic quarry]

why don't we have game mode / or param that start revolve around nuber of sync use

[haughty haven]

No hp pls

I dont want to reset for Pots hell

[cyan tusk]

Hp is not that bad there’s a tons of pots users among electric and ground tbh

[haughty haven]

I dont want to get lower score just bc i dont get pots mpr

[neon prawn]

lemme craft the most devious point boost set
time trial/less hit/hp
sprint/field
villain/rival

[cyan tusk]

Ew

[neon prawn]

params
no param(on whatever is the most hellish stage)
No healing
Support stat down
Sync move power down
No debuffs
Gauge -3

[neon prawn]

expect the wrost so you aren't disappointed

[haughty haven]

Support stat down

[acoustic quarry]

[cyan tusk]

Sync move power down is like free ash stage

[haughty haven]

Me with no Ash

[cyan tusk]

Ncblue ash and sstred can work around it tbh

[haughty haven]

[cyan tusk]

We’ve seen worst

[acoustic quarry]

I saw that the other day

what a dispaointment

betryal

[cyan tusk]

Also no status or interferences

[haughty haven]

At least SS Piers can do it

[acoustic quarry]

unbearable

[haughty haven]

His dps is really good

[neon prawn]

What about support stat down

[cyan tusk]

I tank with emmet

[haughty haven]

Nemona tank time

[cyan tusk]

[neon prawn]

gauge -3 would be funny

[haughty haven]

-3 ?

[cyan tusk]

Unova circle + classic Elesa spdef up and light screen

[haughty haven]

[neon prawn]

yes

-3

[cyan tusk]

Also no debuffs would be bad but not that bad

Good gears \ screen / + 6 def can make it

I mean we have seen Sina tanking a SE sync at 1K with dmg guard next

[neon prawn]

dg basically negates se tbh

dg basically negates se tbh

[storm vector]

guys did you know that dg basically negates se tbh

[tiny ore]

I mean dg is a flat 50%

[outer whale]

Inb4 we get Sync Move damage reduced

[cyan tusk]

I would take sync move dmg reduced honestly, it’s not the worst

As I said we can make it work with debuffs screens syncro healers

[tiny ore]

we already have dark gio

he can dodge syncs apparently?

skipped him

[cyan tusk]

He absorbed the syncs protecting allies

[outer whale]

He makes syncs single target with a 1.5x boost

[night sleet]

We sure get half ani mf electric and ground or arc electric for it

So 1-3 new units will be for hse

[signal needle]

Red

[signal needle]

Thats not very realistic given so many units have aoe attack like Bulldoze and Discharge

[night sleet]

Less hp left🤣

Maks points 1 unit 1% left haha

[paper mist]

More HP but Surge is still there (No Healing)

[signal needle]

Fk noo

remove that rule

[signal needle]

[mortal timber]

There is a huge risk I will have 10/5 Cynthia ready for HSE in march

STAY TUNED FOR MORE

[haughty haven]

[mortal timber]

https://tenor.com/view/sadako-sadako-yamamura-ringu-ring-the-ring-gif-9811094144140824881

Mela banner actually coming in clutch

Pykuo, who do I ex role between 3/5 Anni N and ms mela 1/5 which I just obtained

[haughty haven]

Well definitely 3/5 Anni N bc 1/5 Mela’s Sync deal nothing

[mortal timber]

Lobster suit N, the revenge

🦞

[haughty haven]

But seeing you comeback to HSE makes me happy

Maybe only for Electric/Ground but still

[mortal timber]

Yeah it may be probably just for this one

❤️

But heck, double 10/5 units

I gotta give it a shot with my favs

Plus soon TM 5/5 arc Cyn

[haughty haven]

I’ll also try my best

[mortal timber]

True that I miss Chase iono SS Emmet SS Piers but who cares

[haughty haven]

Mostly bc Ground/Electric are 2 types i couldn’t get top 100

So i want my revenge

[mortal timber]

You will get it

[night sleet]

Pykuo again try top1 hse?

[outer whale]

Hold up, dabbo revival this hse??m

👀

[mortal timber]

Ah i unironically will have without even doing it on purpose two sa units and a 5/5 arc suit

I wanna see what happens and prove my reason why I don’t wanna waste time anymore

Yes, me with two 10/5 units

You heard it right

[cyan tusk]

Can’t wait to start planning with dabbo

“I don’t have this
I don’t have that”

[haughty haven]

“Listen, i have a crazy idea”

[cyan tusk]

“Trust me”

“Im an engineer”

not yet

[tiny ore]

"If its stupid but it works it aint stupid"

"sleep is for the weak"

[haughty haven]

“It’ll work, trust me”

Also “flinch now …… i dare you”

[cyan tusk]

“Yes, yes, I can use this!

•Proceed to 5* a support electrode•

[mortal timber]

sounds like my average hse experience hahaha

or actually my average daily poma experience

[storm vector]

"just one more miss bro i swear it'll win this time bro trust me bro"

[mortal timber]

proceeds not only to get hit, but nat crit too

we are so back friends

i even got Mela today so i am a happy man

if next update has a fav i will just cry

[storm vector]

lucky you

[mortal timber]

55 gems and a dream

[storm vector]

what are your faves

[mortal timber]

too many

that's the issue

😂

[storm vector]

💀

i have one multi and a dream

[mortal timber]

worked for me today, will work for you too

[storm vector]

lmao

[mortal timber]

i believe

[mortal timber]

it's gonna happen again BUT i promise you we have more stuff to work with

[cyan tusk]

“Yess 1K lodge Elesa tank*

[storm vector]

before HSE: ss gio will never be relevant, it won't matter right
after HSE: if only i had invested ss gio...

[storm vector]

not the first time a lodge unit has seen 1k str HSE

[cyan tusk]

I know lmao

1K lodge Steven here

[storm vector]

people scrambling to +E their BP clemonts after a stage that emphasizes defense drops comes out:

[mortal timber]

lodge blue was the first one iirc

1k str vs cilan

i used lodge cynthia vs eternatus

such stupid ideas of mine, yet look at me go haha

[cyan tusk]

Dabbo go pull iono

So you have iono AND lodge iono

And you can do 1K lodge iono clear

[mortal timber]

1/5 iono good? leave lodge alone lmfao

[cyan tusk]

Yes

Still providing special move up next like crazy

Well lodge iono has eerie pulse too and protect

[mortal timber]

lol

[mortal timber]

2/5 HJasmine worthy or not? Just curious 🧐

[cyan tusk]

Yes tm mpr and potions

[mortal timber]

Good to know

Thank you as always for your patience

[cyan tusk]

It’s too early to thank me

There’s still one and more month to go before hse

[haughty haven]

Yeah, should wait until we know all stage

I still remember 3/5 and EXR SSR Cynthia and didn't use her

[night sleet]

Ehh next hse look realy hard . Good im not try hard any more.

[mortal timber]

Early or not I am always thankful for help

It's how I am

[mortal timber]

She helped me securing top 100 by using her on the fairy stage haha 😂

I was that desperate

[acoustic quarry]

Isn't it uesualy easier to have rerun overall since you already have unit invested from previous HSE ?
Or is it more a situation like too much time as pass since Elec and that why they pair it with Ground that is not that old

If you see what i mean

[cyan tusk]

Electric is completely different from last hse

The whole roster is turned upside down kinda

So if you did not keep up it’s hard. Consider for example a stage with sync -80%. If you don’t have ash or sspiers, is gonna be really hard

[mortal timber]

I believe in ash ketchum from pallet town

[cyan tusk]

Well that for example is a stage only for ash sspiers or sshau

If you speak of electric

Ground still has some stuff to work around with like the Cynthia’s

Just to make an example

[night sleet]

I don’t have ground units invest just arc Cynthia. My electric not the best

Plus all this super better just relaxed and watch it in tv🤣

[acoustic quarry]

Yeah thought you were speaking more overall than specific

[night sleet]

I can see one big issue

Most electric are ?

Ground weak🤣

And we will need use them vs ground

[acoustic quarry]

meh i feel it somethinf you can either work around ( aka just not use elec on this heavy ground stage ) and or brute force some stage with heavy unit

[night sleet]

Then need kill mid befor his sync

Since they die after sync any way 1000 str

Nothing help

[acoustic quarry]

Will see will see

I can def imagine Arc Cynthia fully invested doing some sh enaningans

[night sleet]

But we don’t get stage whit terrain or wtz

[acoustic quarry]

that nots elec tho

but

you get the idea

[night sleet]

Arc cynthia is easy 1000 str clear

[acoustic quarry]

I have faioth in rats* team

[night sleet]

Use rats in one team is big waist

[acoustic quarry]

Just for the meme come on

[night sleet]

All need be use in others teams

Ash red and blue could clear 2000 str

[paper mist]

I’m kinda hoping if we get the same bosses but we get different parameters just to shake things up

[acoustic quarry]

really hope hemet ( or ingo can't even tell wich one is who ) gets a place tho, i feel i got him for nothing so far

[paper mist]

Like if N returns he’s anti-Tech instead of anti-Strike

[night sleet]

Not sure we get same stages

[signal needle]

His utility is ass

Like debuff defense and speed

Dps maybe useful

[paper mist]

Debuff defense and speed, Flinch, positive Ground rebuff, ET

Actually…I wonder

Emmet’s Bmove heals all allies when you attack a Poisoned opponent

Wonder if he and Piers (or SSGio if desperate) could be a duo

[night sleet]

Flinch are always good thing in hse

This can buy you sync turns

[paper mist]

-2 Def if Paralyzed
-2 Speed if Flinching
-2 SpDef if Burned (N/A)
-Heals everyone if Poisoned
-FMN for self if confused
-+1 PMUN for self if trapped

[mortal timber]

Too much to read, hope SS Emmet is fine

😂

Jokes aside he can do things

[paper mist]

I JUST listed it out

[mortal timber]

Hahaha

I reckon he can do smth for sure

[night sleet]

Sadly is hit just 1 target if was aoe would be op

For hse aoe moves are top

[paper mist]

Until “Fewer moves” is in

Which I don’t expect given that the majority of the good attackers are AoE but…

[mortal timber]

In case we won't just care tbh

[paper mist]

He could be paired with Piers so Piers can take out the sides while Emmet focuses on mid

[cyan tusk]

Rika

I was thinking about rika

[paper mist]

oh yeah

though Piers would probably be best for the extra ET and mono elec team

Rika wants Ground attackers to take advantage of her Zone

[paper mist]

Marnie lacking EXR makes me think they might bring Volkner back since she's the only Dark DD out of the 2 types

[cyan tusk]

Marnie needs strike exr to be relevant

[paper mist]

I can see it happening

[hollow prism]

She needs more than that 💀

Not even that plus a Dark Weak stage is enough tbh

[paper mist]

I called it

Miraidon for HSE unless I'm wrong and its Dragon for some reason

[night sleet]

Yes

[outer whale]

Well...

[night sleet]

A it have 20 members

[paper mist]

oh lord Miraidon is gonna be bonkers

well maybe not Bonkers in HSE since no SuperEffective but still really good

[night sleet]

For hse

Since they not ground weak?

[paper mist]

yeah is Fairy weak

[night sleet]

We can get hau then

Wat use fairy moves haha

[paper mist]

anything with Dazzling Gleam

[night sleet]

Yeap

I can see hau fairy stage

[paper mist]

actually, if they reuse the same bosses only Claydol on Nita's stage has Gleam

it seems kinda frail tho, at least on the Physical side

[thorny grove]

Is this one for HSE?

[neon prawn]

whose getting better ash

[night sleet]

Me😄

[idle plinth]

Also me

[neon prawn]

probably me too

[idle plinth]

1. I have no Ash
2. I play Violet
3. Miraidon is one of the two reasons I play Violet

[neon prawn]

how long are the banners lasting and when do they start

[idle plinth]

Feb 17 - March 29th for Juliana

Feb 19 - March 29th for Florian

[neon prawn]

oo that's long

[night sleet]

For sure arc on half ani then

Hmm we get electric mf

So ground arc ? Strange

Or just this is for hse banner and after random arc drop

[idle plinth]

Electric MF not weak to Ground

It would be funny if they line up Arc Alder for the Bug UB next month

[neon prawn]

or no electric or ground arc

[night sleet]

Could be arc alder

Since we have electric mf

Fairy is mean hau fairy stage