High Score

[cyan tusk]

Yes but now grusha since it’s my only awaken support is spammed everywhere in my account lmao

Sorry there’s no support Steven to awaken

I have to advocate this

10/5 Elio is still trash

I’m making myself a lot of enemies

[onyx current]

lol! I can believe it

[night sleet]

I have zero sup supper🤣

[cyan tusk]

If you can time your 2 b move correctly to unleash Selene firepower under zone, there’s no need to awaken elio

He would have been REALLY good if he would have shared defense buffs with the team

But for content like hse where it’s crucial most of the times to survive sync (and to do that at 1K you need both defense buffs and opp atk debuffs), is really trash

He can still provide Selene the right firepower to pre sync grusha

[tiny ore]

am i the only one who used summer steven

[onyx current]

Rich

I’m poor with holileon

[tiny ore]

like yes hes terrible but he doesnt die to a stiff breeze like bp candice

he's meh as a secondary dps

performs well enough tho

[pastel mirage]

Without ex bp Olivia how much strength do yo think SS diantha , bp Olivia and dc nemona can handle?

[tiny ore]

and flinches once in a blue moon if youre lucky

700 str required ex

[pastel mirage]

Ex 3/5 nemona and 4EXR diantha

[tiny ore]

so below that

[pastel mirage]

Ok, i'll give it some tries

Or i could grind rally to get some powerups

[tiny ore]

700 str was also abnoxious asf w/ move rng so yeah keep your expectations low

tbh you should be doing rally weekly anyways for gems

and trying to clear the PUs too

[pastel mirage]

Well around 900 gems have gone down the drain tbh

[tiny ore]

im at the point where i can consistently get 9-11k a week so...

mifht as well clear it asap each week

[pastel mirage]

Ok maybe more than 900 gems... I have 5 passes and i had one rally started...

I should finish it ig

[tiny ore]

its only really hard if you get a bad bonus so...

or a REALLY bad seed

[pastel mirage]

The bad thing isn't the difficulty is that sometimes it lasts longer than it should , just because you try to get the max points out of it

[pastel mirage]

Well yeah that sometimes can screw you up, but this one that i have active has rival upgrade, so i dont really know why i didn't finish it

[tiny ore]

if its tech or field i just drop in ss cyrus

or if its roark bc idc about bonus i really hate his head smashing ass

[cyan tusk]

This is what I’d come up with when I can slot Sina instead of irida, irida goes to grant with red and I have the free shauntal to Melony
Did you use NcSilver anywhere?

[static oar]

Would you need SA Sina to slot in for Irida?

I feel like you gain sync acceleration but lose a lot of Ice Zone heals with Sina instead of Irida

[cyan tusk]

The real problem is the endurance

You either need the endurance or the surf to miss her

The post sync surf… I might awaken her in 4 days if needed

I mean, I like glaceon, and she’s pretty, why not

Pairs really well with grusha and the extended ice zone

I mean my fav mons do not have awakening except for metagross

[tiny ore]

i used grusha to eat the surf

[cyan tusk]

Good move too!

[paper mist]

I don't have a single pair I can awaken to 6/5 without spending at least 4 candies

building a time machine and making it so DeNA gave seasonals and LA pairs awakening

[cyan tusk]

Or making a Time Machine to avoid Dena making SA

[wooden sparrow]

sooo the streets saying run this?

unrelated note but I am really sad pal. candice isn't seeing much play I invested into her 😭

[oak fulcrum]

that's more or less what I'm going to play, but 1) does lodge steven need EX, and 2) what order should I start tackling these fights in? I'm finally feeling good enough to start attempts

[wooden sparrow]

no ex needed on steven, he's just there for the flinches + its on an aoe move for the bonus points, and never syncs

maybe it'd be helpful for surviving 1 earthquake but the run would already be dead cause selene probably died lol

and me personally I'd start with either the easiest or the hardest fight

hardest being melony and easiest depends on investment

[oak fulcrum]

easiest is probably grant for me, I have full grid for the team whereas each of the other fights I have mostly 3/5 (save Dana, I can 2/5 her if needed) but don't really have expanded tiles

weirdly the two I've done at lower strengths are Melony and Grant (and Roxanne, but I reset that to move pairs around)

ok yeah grant was somehow first try on 1k, not a bad start

[static oar]

definitely a bummer that p!Candice doesn't have more usage here

she even has the somewhat elusive gym leader theme (looking at you, Bea)

[outer whale]

[paper mist]

in lounge we were just talking about the theme skill distribution lol

[static oar]

it's a headscratcher to be sure

[graceful pike]

idk how would you do sina into brock

like

I WANT that

so bad

[wooden sparrow]

iunno we'll find out

i will say this phase of hse I falter the most I hate having to work hard for like 4k points lol

[neon prawn]

top 400 for 320k feels weird

[alpine crow]

Not for now, but I’m thinking copy Pykuo’s Melony team.

[neon prawn]

this might become my highest ranking hse somehow

[neon prawn]

imo he was the easiest fight this hse

*hse

[glossy ravine]

Dayum

Guess I'm missing this cut as well

[static oar]

3/5 down @1000 str

just melony and brock left

[neon prawn]

very likely lmao

[lean cove]

What are people using against Brock? I'm looking through the sheet and none really stand out. Flinch and freeze are too short-lasting to be reliable, so how do you do damage?

[haughty haven]

For non limited: Ghetsis

[lean cove]

Dragon breath paralyze proc?

[neon prawn]

yeh

[lean cove]

Brutal. Doesn't look like anybody else sets a status reliably either

[neon prawn]

no limited ice rock status mons?

[lean cove]

A lot of them are better in the next battle though

Dana is recommended. Lodge Steven is recommended. But there's no damage. I'm struggling even at +200 here

[neon prawn]

what's your point goal@lean cove

[lean cove]

Top 10k? I don't know where the rankings are at. Seems people are checked out of this because Super awakening exists, as am I. So just trying to get through reasonably

[haughty haven]

https://youtu.be/Tr9SdOqq4jA?si=td5drEmoCrhfWcxx

[neon prawn]

wtf.

[neon prawn]

HOW?

[haughty haven]

Btw it can go higher

[neon prawn]

I should copy the clears but replace some units with my limiteds for maybe 350k

[neon prawn]

I am surprised 320k is top 500 if this is possible

[haughty haven]

Well you can

[neon prawn]

are people just not interested in going for higher?

[haughty haven]

Tbf this is my first time planning f2p team

Well at least i helped him planning it

[neon prawn]

oo

gratz

I wonder why more people aren't attempting to go higher with this clear video available

[haughty haven]

But Akr0 hits 300k is so good tho

Only 1 fight i hate is Melony one

Kukui just awful so if i can, i’ll use Tech Lapras + Hala instead of Tech Kaputop + Kukui

[lean cove]

Dana, Ghetsis... Brycen? That doesn't seem much better than I'm trying

[neon prawn]

what does tech kabutop do again

[haughty haven]

Set sand

To overwrite rain from Melony

Tech Lapras does the same thing but set hail instead

[neon prawn]

oh right I have a shiny one

@haughty haven would you mind giving me suggestions for who to replace with my limited units in certain clears?pls

[lean cove]

Brock is basically the Giovanni EBE... that I couldn't beat

[haughty haven]

Idk tbh

[idle plinth]

Maybe I'll attempt to copy that Ghetsis clear

Just so I can use Selene somewhere else

[dusty vapor]

Highest score I've ever gotten by roughly 70k

[neon prawn]

I assume I can replace Gordie with ss diantha for that grusha clear?

[dusty vapor]

YouTube video convinced me to ex glacia and I'm glad I did she's so much fun

[dusty vapor]

Oh it was this vid lmao

[haughty haven]

3/5 SS Diantha ? Yes

Tbh Gordie’s Sync is a same if not slightly stronger than Zone Diantha

Just bc Diantha has Mega tax

[neon prawn]

everything I am gonna say from among my limiteds will be 5/5 or 3/5 yeh

[neon prawn]

for melony can I go hala tech egg lapras and grusha ? I initially went lodge raihan instead of egg lapras because I forgot eggs existed

[haughty haven]

Grusha is very dangerous there

Bc Melony has Icy Wind and Ice Sync

[neon prawn]

what if I time the zone to run out before sync

my hala was barely not surviving out of sync at the same str as theirs due to raihan sand chip

[lean cove]

What are my options? This is not working at all. I might just skip any strength on this and eat the loss

[haughty haven]

You not even max crit him

[neon prawn]

for Brock, could melony ultra selene and brycen work

[haughty haven]

No

Melony not very good against Brock

Most bc she cant use her strongest weapon

Sing

[neon prawn]

my dana is 1/5 rip

[haughty haven]

You can use Grusha there tho

He already doesn’t care about SpDef debuff

So just slap water guard for him

[neon prawn]

do I go melony hala and egg lapras on melony and grusha selene and brycen on brock then?

[haughty haven]

You can

[neon prawn]

or will ghetsis be better than Selene

[haughty haven]

Ghetsis can debuff Atk/SpAtk

But he is really slow

Selene just very fast

Way faster

[neon prawn]

this is the first hse where I have top 300 potential if interest remains low so I am very excited

[haughty haven]

Can you throw your roster here ?

[neon prawn]

ok one minute

[lean cove]

All battle to paralyze one opponent. He ain't doing damage regardless

[haughty haven]

There is a reason why he reached 300k with f2p

He actually spent effort to plan and test run before doing it

I know not everyone want to do this bullshit HSE, but pls dont complain about the run when it is possible

[lean cove]

I don't know. Some people just have a better run

[haughty haven]

You can do like 175 Str instead of 378 Str

[haughty haven]

Bc they reset

My 1000 Str run reset like 1 hours for it

[dusty vapor]

I reset on grusha for like 3 hours

[lean cove]

It's already been like an hour of attempts

Just gonna go +0 on this thing and hope the others make up for it

[neon prawn]

everyone is ex. Sina is 1/5. Every free unit that's not master bp is 5/5. Bp units are 1/5 unfortunately

[dusty vapor]

every free unit thats free

[haughty haven]

• Grusha: Roxanne - Gordie - Sina
• Melony: Melony - Hala - Tech Lapras
• Brock: Selene - Dana - Kukui
• Roxanne: DC Gladion- SS N - Grusha
• Grant: SS Diantha- MC Rock- DC Nemona

[neon prawn]

thx

[haughty haven]

You can swap Kukui = Ghetsis but the gauge will be cringe

So for Brock you’ll want to win fast

And 5/5 Selene should be able to do it

[neon prawn]

1/5 dana and sina will be fine?

[haughty haven]

You aim to win fast do 1/5 Dana is fine

[neon prawn]

nice, thx

500-600 str on all?

[haughty haven]

Nah

Do like 300 Str first

To see if anything too easy

[neon prawn]

oo

thx

[haughty haven]

Also if you see Sina doesn’t work, use Brock like Akr0

[neon prawn]

I am so excited

[haughty haven]

Pots from him’ll help a lot

[neon prawn]

glad I went yolo on grusha on his release

[haughty haven]

If you want, you can dm me so i can help more specific

[neon prawn]

thx for the offer. I will try to handle the rest myself

[dusty vapor]

on brock, I used ghetsis instead of kukui because he can lower brocks spatk in 3 turns, which lets you survive the first sync, especially if you use dana's full heal right before. 2 acids to start and sync with selene both times. will a 5/5 you should be able to do 400 at least

esp if dana is more than 1/5

[lean cove]

The game froze because I was playing for too long. On a sure win battle. So much RNG....

[haughty haven]

My only problem with Ghetsis is the gauge will be very cringe, and i think 5/5 Selene should be able to win the battle very fast at like 400 Str

[dusty vapor]

I never used glaciate and the grid charges so it wasnt *that* bad

[lean cove]

All that for 258k. No good units for Brock and Grant. This is rank 2,100.

[idle plinth]

200k is the max for the relevant rewards anyway. You're good

[acoustic quarry]

slowly droping ayaaaaah

[paper mist]

Still top 200 here

[oak fulcrum]

still 2/5 battles done here

[graceful pike]

how much to get into top 20 rn?

i haven't even done it

[night sleet]

Now is 550k something

In the end would be 580k +

[acoustic quarry]

Any feeling for top 100 sir Ash?

[night sleet]

This hard tell for now

Since last 3 days we have alot jump in top20

Should be around +- 480-500k

This look for now but still alot days left

[rancid hornet]

Good old reliable Arc Cynthia and Arc Steven helping carry me even though they don’t get the type bonus

Too bad there hasn’t been a rerun for Ghetsis’ power boost

[lean cove]

I was thinking of off-typing Brock too just because the status units are so bad here. But you have Hilbert, which is like the second and last most relevant unit for that battle...

[tame bridge]

oh god, i forgot about this i havent yet started doing HSE

btw what str can a 1/5 non ex nc red reasonably do?

[outer whale]

Depends on the team

You're more or less going to need a sync nuker for 600+ str. So 400 str for nc red if you have type guard and ice zone would be possible

[paper mist]

I think my rank is gonna be safe for top 500 since it’s less competitive than top 100 and people will be focusing their gems on mela/atticus over reruns this week

Still at 176 rn

[outer whale]

I'm probably like rank 80 rn. Idc for top 100 this HSE. My roster is already lacking without superawakening, and I don't want to spend more resources than i did.

(1 sprint candy, one omni candy and Strike cake on Sina, Sprint cake on NC Silver and EXing 3 units just to get more stats.)

[paper mist]

Only candy I spent was getting Red from 2/5 to 3/5

I did do a select for Grusha 2/5 and getting Selene though, but I already have all PF supports and only missed Selene and Emmet from Strike

[hollow prism]

What score rn

Only have 260k with 3/5 stages done

[paper mist]

Stay below 307k pls thx

[austere ferry]

Too lazy to try-hard… bring back the LG!

[night sleet]

Some small improve:)

[hollow prism]

Honestly I think I can beat that

It’ll be hard tho

[onyx crystal]

what are the ranks below master? anyone know

[dusty vapor]

I think its just the pokeballs

so ultra then great

*I think*

[outer whale]

Have fun with Grusha lmao

[acoustic quarry]

Pushed a little melony almost 100k on all team

[outer whale]

Gotta rely on 30% flinch lmao

[acoustic quarry]

Will def try to make it ogrant

Somehow

@haughty haven

[haughty haven]

Improving it

Melony can go higher right?

[outer whale]

I don't have time to improve it. Working all week, and this weekend i'm actually moving.

[trim beacon]

so i forgot about this event

what are the meta teams

why dena always release hse or lg when im at an anime con, makes me not do it asap

[outer whale]

we have the ranking sheet in pins. but meta is much more diverse in this one than others.

[haughty haven]

Oh right @outer whale

Can you fix this ?

On DC Gladion, Melony is the one has IcyWind, not Grusha

[outer whale]

fixed

[tame bridge]

Does egg glaceon have ice zone?

Oh wait, I forgot there is a spreadsheet

[haughty haven]

Yes, it does

[tame bridge]

What is an eq?

[haughty haven]

EarthQuake

[tame bridge]

Ah ok thanks

[outer whale]

writing earthquake would mess up the format. so EQ is the easiest way to mention it. plus pretty easy to know what it is.

[wooden sparrow]

unfortunately 1k brock with sina probably isn't happening lol

at least with my 1/5 dana

[supple summit]

Guys can anyone help me make teams

[tiny ore]

need to ex melony

[supple summit]

Level 150 too?

[cunning shore]

135 is alright

[cunning shore]

Your roster looks very close to mine, are you aiming past 200k?

[supple summit]

i mean yeah i suppose as high as possible

[cunning shore]

If 200k is your goal, you can just copy/improvise on my teams

[supple summit]

Ive done like 800 str in a battle before

[cunning shore]

#1011213509071208451 message

You can basically 300str all stages (some you can push further)

[supple summit]

ah

thanks man

Imma play around with team ideas then and see what ends up working

Oh yeah

Should i try scouting for Paulo

[cunning shore]

Not necessary for full rewards

You can makeshift

You also have SSN so you don't need to use Ghetsis on same stage I did

Etc

[supple summit]

Ohhh alr

thanks

[cunning shore]

Also note that Red 3/5 can 1000str stages. I probably can put him in a different team and he will still be able to clear 1000str. I just lazily used basically Red and 2 zoners to have an easy clear

To all high rankers this is a waste, they'll tell you to use Red/Irida separately

[ashen path]

Grid Sneasel 5/5?

[acoustic quarry]

I do not regret anis any second

What a chad unit

[static oar]

what the recommended sync order against Melony? using Silver/Diantha/Melony

are you trying to preserve sandstorm for later?

[hollow prism]

Grusha is my highest score lmao

I can probably 1k him, i put Silver Diantha on him

[topaz sleet]

who can complete this team? vs brock

[cunning shore]

A tech would be nice

[topaz sleet]

ideally yeah

[cunning shore]

Full boosto

[topaz sleet]

i tried hilbert but selene just dies

[cunning shore]

Selene can Poison yeah? (Idk her kit)

[topaz sleet]

yea

[haughty haven]

I think just any Tech there

[cunning shore]

No need for Hilbert then, you can go for flinchers like steven or kukui

[topaz sleet]

im thinking either brock for potions or kukui for flinches and max circle boost

[haughty haven]

Brock is too good ngl

[cunning shore]

Brock slept on

Always

[haughty haven]

Tech + Gymleader helps you go wide on other team

[cunning shore]

He has protag

No need gym leader

[topaz sleet]

selene covers mc yeah

[cunning shore]

But ye

[haughty haven]

I means for other stage

[cunning shore]

Brock cover both

[haughty haven]

You can use Brock and then just anything

[cunning shore]

Unga bunga

[haughty haven]

Anyway, i think about Brycen or Ghetsis

To debuff SpA

V Hilbert too

Bc idt Hilbert’ll be good on other stage

[cunning shore]

What's a Hilbert

[haughty haven]

V Hilbert at 1/5 can debuff SpA Aoe

[cunning shore]

Oh yeah I pushed up to 370k now I think, might try to push my Silver team and try go for 400k

[haughty haven]

With 1 bar move

Also gives +2 SMUN if you really need it

[cunning shore]

That would be squeezing my team to the absolute limit

[topaz sleet]

i tried hilbert yeah

but selene dies

[haughty haven]

By Sync + Surf combo ?

I thought her Circle’d be enough

[topaz sleet]

maybe if i lowered strength

i’m trying +400 rn

didnt think that’d be too much but guess not

i beat all the other stages +400 brock just built different ig

[storm vector]

I dislike having to off type but the maths wasn’t working out for using on type support sadly
Strength:
572
371
275
432
533

Brock is still a massive pain to score well on despite now having nc red and Paulo to use

by the end of it all I had to pick between stuff like Brock and glacia to support on grusha stage

which didn’t go very well

[topaz sleet]

so kukui is weak to water 💀

[tiny ore]

unfortunately so is raihan

[storm vector]

after trying to teambuild using Paulo firsthand I now see why nobody uses him

[tiny ore]

raihan has it rough

[storm vector]

simply too tricky to fit on while playing for both bonuses

[tiny ore]

3 of them just slaughter raihan w/ water moves

[cunning shore]

What moves does Melony spam

?

[haughty haven]

She has:
Waterfall
Hydropump
Icy Wind (3 uses)

[cunning shore]

Bruhhh

Big ass beach

[tiny ore]

yep water guard is mandatory

[cunning shore]

Life is sad

She lives on 3%

[graceful pike]

sad

[cunning shore]

Just gonna cake Paulo for faster cycle

[gleaming raven]

man im remembering just how much i hate resetting for specific queue orders

[bold pond]

Can I have some help building teams for this? I have glanced at the document but I'm still so unsure how best to set everyone up. I just want the rewards

Please ping me

[gleaming raven]

Alright, I think im happy with this. 300 STR Grant, 500 STR Brock, 400 STR on the other 3

[paper mist]

Oh yeah. Rock/Poison egg event instead of rock/ice also makes me think Poison is next (along with Atticus)

[topaz sleet]

squeezed back into top 500 cuz i just got selene today lol. lodge steven kinda owns grusha i’d put him higher on the grading list

[topaz sleet]

to an extent but i disagree with some aspects of it

like i just mentioned i think lodge steven is A tier on grusha

grid him for super prep and follow through on stealth rock and cetitan just drops

[outer whale]

@topaz sleet was never told this, if you had pinged me and let me know and discussed it, I would ha e changed it.

Will change it tonight

[hollow prism]

The only thing it helped with is my mood because of your lower tier rankings and also your other rankings being bad

[topaz sleet]

this

very very good

[hollow prism]

Link’s rankings be like “Yeah so we put NCSilver, the intended unit for Grusha, as A- for Grusha”

[paper mist]

Isn’t he intended for Melony

[outer whale]

Also, ngl, this one was really weird because I was not sure if the grusha and roxanne weakness were an error or legit

[hollow prism]

I have him on Grusha bc I offtyped melony

[topaz sleet]

its legit

[hollow prism]

He does ruin Grusha too

[topaz sleet]

grushas side mons have no lessen freeze

using reds b move you can keep them locked down after cetitan drops

[hollow prism]

Who uses NCRed on Grusha

[paper mist]

Weather change, lower flinch resist iirc, he also has team special damage resist in sand, etc

[topaz sleet]

me bruh

[outer whale]

Pinning this because I want input on how to improve it specifically

[hollow prism]

Problem is at a certain point a ranking is useless because there is a correct and incorrect unit for each stage

[paper mist]

Put all my faves at S+ tier

(/j)

[topaz sleet]

pryce is incorrect on every stage

[hollow prism]

Like from what i’ve seen Irida is just put on Roxanne

Unless im dumb

[outer whale]

Not everyone does the same thing

[hollow prism]

We usually converge on similar teams though

And some stages become solved early while others are critical

[paper mist]

We’ve definitely seen high ranked ppl not use the common pairs in certain stages tho

[hollow prism]

For this one that stage looks to be Grusha

[hollow prism]

Not every pair is always the same but we see common patterns

[topaz sleet]

everyone with alt selene put her on brock i just got her today so thats what i did

[hollow prism]

Like for example Lear was used most on Hala, then Steven Lillie on Jasmine, and all the best fighting units on Bea

[outer whale]

Plus and I had emphasize this multiple times, the HSE rankings can and will change as the event progresses.

[hollow prism]

So if you simply guess wrong as to which units are best on which stage the list can just look dumb

[hollow prism]

Yeah but no one reads that shit 💀

[outer whale]

Or you don't read it

[hollow prism]

just like no one reads max investment on the tier list and thinks that their pull will be just as good at 1/5

[hollow prism]

Yes because i don’t read the rankings at all

[topaz sleet]

i havent seen any good usage of classic blue is he just dead

[hollow prism]

I forgot he existed

Which is a bad sign

[outer whale]

I have cblue ranked low as well iirc

[hollow prism]

And yeah there are too many better pairs

[paper mist]

Blue’s main niche is mixed damage but in HSE you don’t really need mixed damage, ig being a special rock attacker but. Lodge Steven and Selene are there too.

[hollow prism]

Red, Irida, Candice, Shauntal, Grusha, Melony, Sina, even Pal Bea just for Ice

And if you focus on damage units you easily hit 5+ before Classic Blue

[topaz sleet]

i def was tired of using 1/5 classic blue as my rock striker so i selected selene today i deadass have no other good rock strikers

[paper mist]

And this HSE didn’t have a “physical damage -80%” or whatever parameter so that would have made him more viable

[topaz sleet]

want nc silver but who knows when he’ll come back

[hollow prism]

Red with any zone, Sina Irida, Alola Alts, Silver, Diantha, even SSN and Pal Candice have him beat

[paper mist]

Although his sync is physical…

[hollow prism]

If it did you’d just put Ice on it

[topaz sleet]

classic blue is pretty good with STEEP investment

[hollow prism]

Classic Blue isn’t beating Sina or NCRed

[paper mist]

What if Rock weak mid on it

[hollow prism]

Honestly he still might be worse

[paper mist]

Yeah

[topaz sleet]

lodge steven is better for rock weak middle lol

has SEUN and a tech ex sync

[paper mist]

They went easy on us with the parameters I think ( except Brock’s ofc)

[outer whale]

That's another factor too. Max investment units can forego the rankings for most battles because they become cracked. But I'm not ranking SA into account because NOT MANY folks will have that specific unit maxed out

[hollow prism]

Brock i’m gonna try Arc Steven offtype

Bc again shit roster

[night sleet]

Arc steven easy carry

Like nc blue befor🤣

[paper mist]

Yeah I feel like the doc is more helpful for people aiming for 200k points and rankings up to maybe 1k but top 100 is gonna know what to do for the most part

[hollow prism]

Idt i make top 100

[paper mist]

I find it useful and I usually aim for top 500

[outer whale]

Exactly. Sure it will help folks aiming higher, but the top 100 or even top 20 will have maxed out units that can just brute force the stage to begin with

should probably add that note tbh

[hollow prism]

I wouldn’t say brute force

[paper mist]

I could aim for top 100 in the bug/poison hse next but if I can’t get arc alder I doubt I will

[outer whale]

Not brute force, but you know what i mean.

They will be able to have more flexibility and get higher points much more easily with more highly invested units

I'm remembering how much of a breeze having SA Steven was for 1000 str. No way in heck would he be able to do that easily at 3/5

[hollow prism]

If i had given Sina 3/5 (which i should) i’d be able to get 500k

[paper mist]

And by the looks of it I won’t have any gems to pity any arcs in March

[hollow prism]

Im at 65k

[static oar]

I use the HSE grading sheet quite a bit before the event in planning/evaluating which units to potentially invest in

I think it's absolutely a helpful resource, though I don't use it much once the event starts and things are more settled

If i had one bit of feedback to improve the grading sheet @outer whale, it would be that I would love to be able to see more rows at one time

Since I don't see a way to hide the header, that may not be possible

But would be the one QoL improvement that would make the document a bit more useful as a visual aid

[outer whale]

That's one thing i've been trying to figure out and improve by making the info on top more concise. But it's also difficult too knowing that there is a lot of info to cover to begin with. I know on mobile, the header is atrocious, but i have yet to figure out how to make it be a lot more easier to read...

I'll look into it when i'm less busy these next few weeks

[cosmic creek]

4/5 caked wallygarde
1/5 caked shiny primarina

And then running zapdos as my third.

My score feels super low. Barely over a million

[paper mist]

Wrong channel

I wouldn’t mind another fairy/diff type hse run tho lol

[outer whale]

True

Heck, run back fire HSE.

Genuinely would probably really fun to 1000 str the battles

[soft lodge]

Coping for fire/grass hse so I can superawaken Greta unironically

[hollow prism]

Greta would not be used in Fire Grass

Greta would only be used if Grass had a weaker type to go with it like Poison or Bug

[night sleet]

Water fairy rerun i want my 660k😏

[outer whale]

Inb4 Lana rerun with same params

[hollow prism]

🤡🤡🤡

[night sleet]

Now i would do it in like 30m 🤣

[hollow prism]

You should be demoted just for saying that

[night sleet]

I now all soo easy

[hollow prism]

Fire gets Flint with no healing too

[tiny ore]

max out those tix baby

lol i wouldnt be hitting 600k

[outer whale]

Ngl i'm hoping for Bug poison. If i get Atticus, i do feel like my Roster would be cracked

[night sleet]

Like we have now hse where we have no heal most off times

[tiny ore]

more like 450k but still

[hollow prism]

Bug Poison is not playable

[outer whale]

Geeta, oleana, ss hilbert, alder, and SS Roxie

[tiny ore]

i will take whateve ri can

[hollow prism]

There simply aren’t enough good units in Bug Poison to function

[tiny ore]

what tanks do you even have

[hollow prism]

Exactly

[night sleet]

Bug sups suks

[hollow prism]

Your best Tank is unironically Ball Guy

🤡

[outer whale]

Hbugsy exists

[hollow prism]

Followed by probably Holiday Viola

[tiny ore]

gotta grab life by the balls

[outer whale]

Aaron exists

[hollow prism]

Oh yeah Bugsy

[outer whale]

Dawn wormadam exists

[night sleet]

Bugsy aaron ball guy

[tiny ore]

who tf has bugsy

[outer whale]

Unfortunately

[night sleet]

Gio oak

Posion sups

[outer whale]

True

[night sleet]

Have pots

Its good

[paper mist]

Same minus not getting arc alder

[outer whale]

Lets be real, the next types are all going to be miserable

Flying, bug, poison, and normal

[paper mist]

Not having Arc alder will prevent me from getting top 100 sadly and some 1/5s again

[night sleet]

We miss electric

Fire

Grass

[tiny ore]

wouldnt mind flying / fire or smth

[night sleet]

For two types

Normal not sure if we get even

[paper mist]

Fire/Grass electric/psychic

[tiny ore]

gonna suck trying to figure out how to use anni steven

he sucks

[onyx current]

The johto fans stay winning

[onyx current]

The stage that inflicts -6 evasion and accuracy with head smash:

[tiny ore]

if he gets upport exr

[night sleet]

Ani steven prob next for 5/5 grid

[tiny ore]

id unironically start tanking w/ him

[onyx current]

I love my unbending and headstrong expansion

[outer whale]

Just know that if next hse has Bug and/or poison, expect more memes than this ranking

Bug is very..... lmao

[night sleet]

Bug will be use on 2 stage 3 is poison

[onyx current]

SCIngo and SCBarry my goats

[night sleet]

Fubert barry carry teams

[onyx current]

If only ingo had tech exr

[onyx current]

Was thinking what does fall hilbert have to do wit this but you meant ss

[night sleet]

Poison have some SA units

[onyx current]

Emma’s great

[night sleet]

Bug only hilbert

[tiny ore]

fall hilbert is terrible

[onyx current]

Same with Roxie and Oleana

[tiny ore]

and this is coming from somebody who still uses him

[night sleet]

Yeap poison have good SA choise

And pots sups so heal not issue

[tiny ore]

then again my fall hilbert is 2/5

[onyx current]

Same

[tiny ore]

i think hed still be terrible at 3/5

[onyx current]

I enjoyed using furburt while I could

[tiny ore]

only thing he gets is sync nodes

[night sleet]

We get info after hse next announce wat arc unit we get befor hse

One off this type

[onyx current]

Bug arc revolutionizing base alder and HBugsy

[night sleet]

Arc adler if bug

[outer whale]

Arcder is guaranteed half anni trust

[night sleet]

If its bug hse

Only

[outer whale]

True

[night sleet]

They putt for sale for hse

Adler should be sup

If they make him

[tiny ore]

if its alder for half anni im skipping

got no gems left bc zapdos ate them all

[night sleet]

Blue was not nice for me at 4 ani too i now it as well🙁💸💸

[tiny ore]

goodbye 36.6k gems

i never knew ye

[static oar]

4/5 down @1000 str (finished Brock finally)
just Melony left

current score is 475k without Melony

probably can improve all my scores by at least a bit

whether I go for it depends how grindy it will be for top 20

[shy flax]

Did all of them at 400 strength, I know I can increase it. But before I do, should I switch up the Grusha / Melony teams? For example, moving NC Silver to Grusha and going all in with my best Rock team

I’m fine with investing EX or EXR (was considering Paulo EXR) but probably won’t use candies

Oops the first team doesn’t even have a gym leader or MC

[graceful pike]

@wooden sparrow

so uhh

news update

sina hilbert and dana CAN handle brock at 1k

they live the surf and the sync

[wooden sparrow]

.

you did remind me to just fish for a run that has surf miss though i forgot that i thought that

[graceful pike]

i said live not win XD

dps is horrible

[wooden sparrow]

ok well to be fair you said CAN here

[graceful pike]

mb mb

[wooden sparrow]

I'm kind of over HSE at this point, but I'd still like top 20 so I'll grind out some points soon enough

[graceful pike]

good luck

i'm kinda just

"get this over with"

so you won't see me use steven ever

too much luck

[wooden sparrow]

4k points between me at 17th and 12th

[graceful pike]

how much you got rn again?

[wooden sparrow]

586,425

[graceful pike]

oh right

youtube video

congrats on actually doing it tho ngl

[wooden sparrow]

tyty

[graceful pike]

now to do melony...

seriously though

FOUR MPR?

best i can do is 3/

[cyan tusk]

I still have ptsd from that fight lmao

[cyan tusk]

That’s a Klarazy assumption
Vnoland lmao

[cyan tusk]

There’s pykuo’s vid with 1 mpr only

And btw are next types are not gonna be so miserable unless they do the cringe bug/flying hse where the supp roster will be too bad. Poison is cracked with a couple of tech+striker units (klara/ssroxie/ariana) and bug too (Vnoland /sshilbert)

Normal is gonna be good everywhere bc of cracked supports

[graceful pike]

yeah but i am aware of the one with four

[cyan tusk]

Just do like me
Act like it doesn’t exist

[graceful pike]

either that or no go for me i guess mfao

at least it's

"scripted"

imo

[cyan tusk]

There’s also quagg’s run with 5/5 diancie so no awakening

[tiny ore]

good supports but f2p strikers and tech are ass

[graceful pike]

yeah

that's the problem

when you think of normal

only like, barry's dad and

something

larry

maybe if something is weak to fighting and grass then you can see whitney and spring may

idk so far i remember

Barry's Dad

Larry

Spring May

Whitney Holiday

Gladion (fr fr?)

Hugh

only 2 are free

and most of them are single target so

sheesh

not to mention hugh can recoil to death if you are not lucky so he's the LEAST reliable

and only 2 have role cake so stats are not gonna compensate

[tiny ore]

i kinda want whitney ex

but i would never use her in hse

[graceful pike]

she's nice

but

not THAT strong

normal supports are good but man does it suck to use their attackers

[outer whale]

Want to mention the poll above.

[graceful pike]

it's a mix between 7 to 80%

like

most of the time i check it because i wanna know how much i'm missing out

like

"do i have to get this unit"

and so on

ugh

[outer whale]

[graceful pike]

you know sometimes it's hard to gauge as time goes on

like

did we factor in stuff like "oh yeah lorelei buffs a shit ton of stats so she's kind of like, a cracked support for this parameter"

speaking of units that i love that i don't have to get

paulo

though

kinda sad how much they shat on attackers

emmet and blue are not usable lmfao

for lower points sure

[outer whale]

I think in my mind in terms of the ranking sheet, i'm thinking of what would be the path of least resistance for the battle itself rather than optimizing points since at thr end of the day, that comes down to both team composition and your skills.

[graceful pike]

but not in, you know

[outer whale]

Like I understand that i won't be able to get every single thing right, these are pre-HSE rankings after all, and wildly enough, there was some teams I neber even expected to see for certain battles. But again, team composition matters.

Most notable one was seeing USelene and UElio on Grusha (granted, 5/5) but still insane to me

[graceful pike]

i mean

[outer whale]

There's only so much to predict given stats, movesets, grids and the battle itself that I do find it amazing that despite that, there can still be options that I might have overlooked in the Hse phase.

Just typing my thoughts, apologies

[graceful pike]

it's so weird why selene is still D+

like when has weakness stopped pairs from being good

"just don't get hit" is the mentality

i mean if you just put THAT pair in by itself then, sure

but flinches and stuff exist so

idk

it's hard to give a definitive score sometimes y'know

like how is she D+ on Grusha, the one that she is SUPEREFFECTIVE against

While grant gets a C

[outer whale]

And that's the thing, i put her as D+ because of the amount of earthquakes grusha has. But seeing Selene paired up with a flincher (Kukui) can mitigate that risk

[graceful pike]

both kills on eq anyways

so yeah

tbh ratings are hard

[outer whale]

Like it's hard to predict them

[graceful pike]

i would not blame you for it

it's nice to see how stuff has developed over time

[outer whale]

I'm also more than willing to change rankings based on results too. I don't like making definitive yes or no's because then that limits people's creativity from looking at someone's opinion

[graceful pike]

yeah'

[graceful pike]

this though

is my main reason for checking the doc lol

was kinda pissed how they dropped TWO ESSENTIAL UNITS FOR THE SUMMER (Ghost Dark) HSE last year

i hated that one so bad

[outer whale]

See that's the thing, i almost fell for that trap. I don't have Grusha, but was still able to get 446k without him. So like.....

SURE I COULD GET HIM..... but even then, would that change much?

Like would just having Grusha get me past 500k?

not really

[graceful pike]

for me

probably

like the damage boost

and the amount of stats he gives

comical

not to mention a rare flincher

allowing for crazy queues

if you have ss silver

turn 1 you can literally sync

2 n tm + head start 1

one silver tm and b move

one grusha flinch in the middle

bam, sync move

[outer whale]

But then ask yourself this. What would Grusha provide after this event?

[graceful pike]

as a lg player, any pair is valuable tbh

good flincher, good buffer yada yada...

[outer whale]

Ok that is true

[graceful pike]

but yeah, 1/5 is ROUGH

[outer whale]

THAT'S THE OTHER THING lmao

[graceful pike]

still

[outer whale]

How much am i willing to invest in him

[graceful pike]

considering how popular he is

don't quote me but he MIGHT be a lodge pair in the future lmfao

[outer whale]

Don't do me like that, i'm already upset they made Kabu a lodge pair, but not Larry

[graceful pike]

yeah

makes me wonder

then again

might not be his time YET

kabu is definitely in bc of that yumejoshi poll

[outer whale]

But regardless, thank you for the input on the doc! It does help me think on how to improve it in general for people

[graceful pike]

idk my inputs are weird and unorganized af lol

what did you get from it though just to recap

[outer whale]

For one, you're making me think on if the HSE ranking sheet is promoting you to pull for a unit or not which isn't my intention.

Rankings based on weakness doesn't necessarily mean it'd be bad for a non-support unit. (Hell i used Sina on Roxanne and was able to beat it at 650 str)

And most importantly, potential team comps to alleviate these scenarioes for other folks.

[graceful pike]

I mean

the first one is more or less like a side effect. People want to have good performing units so, naturally, they gravitate towards pulling them

[outer whale]

Yea, that seems inevitiable

[graceful pike]

the potential team comps is rough because

you might have to think A LOT just to alleviate scenarios, judge more effectively yada yada...

[outer whale]

That might have to be a more during HSE Phase

[graceful pike]

also it's best if you have like a clear, cut goal

do you want to put them in by themselves (selene gets destroyed by EQ so she bad)

or in a more reasonable, realistic scenario (flinch so selene doesn't see an EQ at all and deletes Grusha)

[outer whale]

So if you saw the ranking on sina for Roxanne, I can add footnotes in regards to alleviate that ranking.

[graceful pike]

yeah

footnotes

i did saw 'em tho

[outer whale]

I might implement that more, but that may be more work

Granted, if it helps get across the reasoning of the ranking and allows counterpointing for the ranking, that can bring up more healthy discussion on team comps

So i will try that next HSE.

[graceful pike]

do what you can

and remember to have fun doing it

that's like, the most important part

then again that might be too obvious XD

[outer whale]

I already have fun doing the rankings and memeing certain characters. But what"s more important is that people actually benefit from it rather than it just being strictly comedy material.

@hollow prism

[ashen path]

Thank you ! 😄

[graceful pike]

okay

do you have any hot takes? @outer whale

[supple summit]

How do my teams look

[paper mist]

who's lowering spdef against brock?

unless this is for the minimum point reward

[supple summit]

uh

who should i use

[paper mist]

wait

[supple summit]

I mean im tryna just get the best possible outcome tbh

[paper mist]

nevermind i had it backwards

what's your roster and levels? Paulo is a good partner for NCSilver for example

[supple summit]

No Paulo unfortunately

[paper mist]

HLeon is very fragile

[supple summit]

Apparently Candice is good in his place

[paper mist]

oof that's a lot of 1/5s

[supple summit]

tech candies are hard to come by

idk

I could probably spare about 3 candies on everything

not everything i mean

In total

Sorry

[paper mist]

you might struggle for top 1k but below 500 isn't very competitive

[graceful pike]

someone kill me

i got a run with FOUR MPR

on silver

but hey hydro pump one shot

[supple summit]

Do yk who could use the candies the most?

[paper mist]

I personally dislike using candies for HSE, it depends on who you often use outside of it

if you use irida a lot, she's a good candidate for longer zone/hail and mind games 9

[supple summit]

Lol i only scouted for her in the first place to beat Nita

[graceful pike]

mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[supple summit]

Probably SS Diantha?

Oh and i guess SS N

[paper mist]

do you use them a lot outside the hse

[supple summit]

Lol no

Cause i have Silver and Red respectively

[paper mist]

you can easily get the 200k point rewards with your roster but the ranking title will need more investment. I just personally dislike candying solely for a HSE, myself.

[paper mist]

Irida's a great partner for Red tho

[supple summit]

I mean ive done it before

I do feel bad about it

But i mean

Maybe we can reduce candy usage by making better paired teams

I found a yt vid where someone got 300k with f2p units

[supple summit]

I could probably swap Leon out for either Kukui or Candice

[paper mist]

Kukui would be better

[supple summit]

good thing he’s already ex’d

Lol

and 5/5

[hollow prism]

💀

to be fair no one takes this gamemode seriously unfortunately, everyone just rolls their eyes at it despite it being the best content in the game so it's not gonna get much use

[paper mist]

finally kicked out of top 200

[tiny ore]

I feel like a lunatic for being ine of the only people who used summer steven

He's not the worst?

Like he's still awful but he aint grant levels of mediocre

pair him w/ irida and youll get some mileage out of him

how many people even have him anyways

[grand perch]

I got him haha

Didn’t use him alongside Irida this time though

[onyx current]

I feel like only really old veterans would have him and that's not even judging whether or not they had him 3/5 or invested at all

[outer whale]

don't feel bad....

I used Palentines Bea as a tank.

[jagged eagle]

I got ya but I cant bother to raise my score because I dont want my vouchers numbers not ending with 0 or 5

[tiny ore]

only a tad higher

[tiny ore]

i feel like i could swap gladion onto the brock comp. thanks for the idea

[oak fulcrum]

wow sometimes I forget how much easier fights are when you turn the strength down from 1k

[jagged eagle]

I just stole teams here and there, so while I'm at it, thank you Pykuo, Knight, and Lemmay for the team inspo

[oak fulcrum]

I finally ran the rest of the fights at low strength because I was tired of not being ranked, this seems like a very okay first run

[static oar]

is lodge Steven so good that he's become meta for Grusha with the ultra protags?

is his SEUN nuke super strong or something? I feel like kukui flinches just fine

[haughty haven]

I used him mostly bc he has flinch and aoe move

Just that

[static oar]

Oh so more hits

That makes sense

That's a good reason!

Acid is weird to me as a spread move, as I never saw it used that way in the main games

Like my brain won't internalize it

[shy flax]

Any suggestions for improving my teams (particularly Grusha / Melony) or should I just stick with these and increase strength?

Main thing I’m not sure about is if I should consolidate or separate SS Diantha and NC Silver

[tiny ore]

pushed another 13k

[hollow prism]

Link i meant the greater community, not dedicated HS players

[tiny ore]

melony is a lost cause i think

only room for improvement is grusha

and maybe roxanne

managed to free up regirock by slotting in brock

gotta see if its gonna be enough to get me to 400k

[storm vector]

well yea it’s kinda hard for the greater community to dump more time into this mode when the rewards cap out at 200k and the fact that you won’t be getting any good LB placements without highly invested units

compounded by the fact that careful planning is required to go higher which people don’t have time or patience for

[tiny ore]

also SUPER rng heavy

get hydropumped 3 times in a row and your tank is just dead

[open furnace]

Okay, what units would I really want for Brock's condition? I don't have the alt Selene pair, so...

[storm vector]

ghetsis

[open furnace]

Is freezing that consistent for it?

[storm vector]

para

[open furnace]

Roster, for reference.

[sullen pier]

freeze is not a counter to the battle rule at all

[rain sierra]

Hurr, not even a pin to collect all clears for me to steal? Yeah, this game is going down

[haughty haven]

[ornate turret]

just search for images in this channel and steal

[safe path]

BP Olivia, 3/5 NC Silver and 3/5 SS Diantha can clear 1000 strength Grusha (both Silver and Diantha need cake). So if you have someone else to replace Silver in Mleony stage and still get decent score, yeah, use Silver and Diantha together.

Oh and decent skill gears too.

Also, your Roxanne team can clear 1000 strength too, Irida doesn't even need cake. Red of course does.

[signal needle]

Glacia 87k

[tiny ore]

my highest score

[outer whale]

That looks miserable

[tiny ore]

just gotta get 87.4k on roxanne again to hit 400k

[tiny ore]

it was. 800 str SUCKS

[tiny ore]

healing hail + ice shell + regen is usable but not good

gonna wait for lodge arven before i redo roxanne i think

glacia grid + rock guard LS

+2

[tiny ore]

GIVE ME THOSE 250 POINTS DENA

[pastel mirage]

You could probable get them in that last battle ig

[tiny ore]

just resetting roxxane rn

[haughty haven]

Do you think Ghetsis is better than V Hilbert bc, well he can actually deal dmg

[tiny ore]

i cant be assed to reset grant

Maybe but im too lazy to reset

mine is also ext

exr

[pastel mirage]

I did roxanne 950 and havent resetted it since that

Could probably change lots of things but conseidering my roster i dont wanna try much

There's not that much i can do probably, 340k seemed ok considering my shitty roster

[tiny ore]

ok i think thats it

no more attempt

unless I really wanna give ghetsis a shot vs brock

[signal needle]

Switch candice for lodge raihan if u hv

Or candy ss n

[tiny ore]

Lol lodge raihan is water weak

candice is my nuker

and i cant afford to candy n rn

[candid radish]

What are some good options for brock's condition, since freeze is so unreliable?

[tiny ore]

v hilbert and ghetsis

alt selene

ss n

[candid radish]

[tiny ore]

maybe gordie?

[candid radish]

rebuff counts?

[tiny ore]

hes kinda awkward to use bc you gotta eat aoes

he can burn

[candid radish]

I'll give ghetsis a shot, thank you

[signal needle]

Ok in that case

[signal needle]

Ghetsis best i assume

[paper mist]

Ghetsis for free, Selene for limited pairs

Good thing I’m off this weekend so I can try and push some more

[shy flax]

Thanks, is it worth doing this even though the BP Olivia / SS Diantha / NC Silver team wouldn’t have a main character or gym leader?

[bold pond]

Can I have some help building teams for this? I have looked at the guide but would appreciate any tips. I just want the rewards. Please ping me

[graceful pike]

people in the last day is crazy

like

i'm top 18 now ToT

and it's so weird that there are 2 top 1s

[bold pond]

If anyone can help please ping

[candid radish]

The challenges aren't very restrictive, I just recommend:

using ghetsis against brock;
offtyping with red, silver and diantha/selene who are your stronger dps options;
ontype (vs grusha and roxanne) with your "lesser" dps like irida and diantha/selene;
Share supports accordingly, maybe roxanne vs brock since the gauge usage might be a bit much with ghetsis + a dps

This is just the perspective of someone who only chases point rewards tho I don't chase rank

[bold pond]

The rewards are all I'm after really

[candid radish]

Just remember to include one tech and one gym leader/mc in each team for a few extra points

[bold pond]

Grusha - SS Diantha, BP Olivia, DC Nemona
Melony - NC Silver, Melony, Kukui
Brock - Ghetsis, variety Hilbert, Roxanne
Roxanne - Selene, MC Regirock, ???
Grant - NC Red, Irida, Lorelei

Something like this?

Please feel free to fix anything

[candid radish]

Should be fine, but vs roxanne might be a little scuffed since selene needs some gauge support and it's hard to get that on a tech unit

[bold pond]

What should I tack on for the third slot?

[candid radish]

Well maybe raihan instead of mc regirock for one

And steven cradily for the tech unit since he doesn't require high gauge usage and can lower sp def

[bold pond]

Should I give anybody type resistance skills?

[candid radish]

It's fine the stages aren't very difficult, maybe water resist vs brock or ground resist vs grusha

40k is very achievable without resets

[bold pond]

Oh that's good

Thank you for your help!

[candid radish]

Sure, hope it works

[bold pond]

If I have issues I'll let you know

[candid radish]

[distant crystal]

Question out of the blue, would this score from the team shown be respectable, or does it seem like I’m seriously missing the mark on how to approach/handle these fights for points?

Definitely want a good score from NCRed, which is why I gave him the x3 bonus, but could easily imagine I sabotaged myself along the way.

(Seems like decent time trial showing, but relatively small contribution for number of attacks and buffs?)

[tiny ore]

decent for 200k. team could be greatly improved if going for as high as possible

gonna need a way better tank than ghetsis for high str

but high str is miserable so it depends on how much you wanna torture yourself

[distant crystal]

Right, I should have specified—only aiming for 200K, will leave the true high scores to deeper rosters.

[distant crystal]

Yeah, Ghetsis was more a secondary damage dealer who could barely survive long enough for the win, moreso than a tank—I wanted to try out the egg Glaceon for ice zone to spread my units out a bit more, but am not wedded to it at all, given how squishy.

Most likely change I had in mind was Dana as a true tank, compensating for lower damage output with supereffective buffs to Red. Would also get the Ex support boost.

[tiny ore]

might need ghetsis for brock

depends on your roster tho

if you have vhilbert or selene youre fine tho

or might be able to make gordie work

[distant crystal]

I have Alt Selene—if only she could play every position

[tiny ore]

ok youre fine

[distant crystal]

No Alt Elio, so would need to go offtype with Chase if she’ll want circle support—but obviously want to get big multipliers for her and Red, so I can try her out on a pure team first

For context, my ice and rock pairs:

[tiny ore]

i mean if youre only going 200-300 str idk if you actually need to off type

[oak fulcrum]

200-300 she should be able to obliterate with her own circle

just avoid earthquake on grusha probably, but against brock who cares

[distant crystal]

The 300 for Roxanne was basically “how high can I go before stuff starts dying too fast”—it was calibration, so I don’t mind going higher where it makes sense.

[tiny ore]

not worth it if only going for 200k imo

[distant crystal]

Cool—you know how it is, trying to math it out before completing most of the fights gets murky

[tiny ore]

i went 800 str and it was miserable

tip for making your tanks live longer

use type guards if you have the cookies

[distant crystal]

I am also open to candying Red up to 3 and putting in Abomasnow for hail—have been holding off on candies, but they’d be put to good use by him for sure.

[distant crystal]

I threw a couple on to see if I’d get rock-guard for the first fight, but got bored fast

[tiny ore]

yeah the Ls rng is a pain

[distant crystal]

Will power through a couple more and circle back if I’m struggling—appreciated

[supple summit]

Guys how should i set this team up

What grids and ls will help with this

[safe path]

Yes, the high strength give more score than 1k bonus.

[open furnace]

Aside from Ghestis, who else is useful for Brock?

[open furnace]

roster here, again.

[leaden fractal]

Someone did a 200k run with just four f2p teams iirc

[static oar]

Irida

[haughty haven]

300k lol

https://youtu.be/Tr9SdOqq4jA?si=ykFKybbsFKoLr9bP

[tiny ore]

idk if i would call 3/5 dana and regirock accessible tbh but

still a good run

[haughty haven]

Should be able to 200k

[leaden fractal]

I said four teams, but glad to see it's up to 300k with the full five now

[open furnace]

...how? Freeze doesn't last.

Plus, it's, like, one move she has, her B move.

[oak fulcrum]

The gimmick checks you have for Brock are basically only Ghetsis and SSN

[tiny ore]

and vhilbert

[oak fulcrum]

they don't have vhilbert

[tiny ore]

oh

gl

ghetsis is better as a para setter bc ss n is kinda inconsistent there

at least at 1/5

[leaden fractal]

I just went 2/3 on brock because i cba to get higher than 200k

[static oar]

Ghetsis is paralyzing

Irida is providing zone and debuffs

[open furnace]

Oh, I do have V Hilbert, actually

Ddin't add him in.

I would also like to state yet again, for the record, I hate how they handle Limited Pairs in this game.

[open furnace]

1/5 work for him?

[oak fulcrum]

For low strength sure, the main thing he misses from his 3/5 grid is crit buffing

[open furnace]

Just more going for completion and rewards.

that work alright?

[oak fulcrum]

If you can 300k f2p, then 200k with some limiteds in the mix will suffice

[idle temple]

I'm a bit stuck with the last of these stages... Any suggestions? I'm trying to get the Move Candy Coin.

[haughty haven]

Can you EX Hala? It’ll help you alot

But also Hala on Grant’ll be awful bc 4 bars

[idle temple]

I've tried with 5* Hala already and found him doing less than expected. Does EX w/o role make that much of a difference?

I've already powered up (potential of) multiple units during this event, so I'd appreciate from my current roster if possible.

(That being said, I have plenty of training manuals, so getting up to level caps is fine)

[haughty haven]

Hm, you can try Gordie there

He has really strong Sync dmg

Are you willing to reset all stage ?

I can look at your roster and build it

You can try BP Olivia-Gordie-Brock

[idle temple]

All my on-type units should be in those screenshots.

[idle temple]

Noted. I'll try that after I sleep, I think.

[tiny ore]

only need 24k to get all rewards. no shame is lowering str

grid brock for overwhelm and potions

only thing hes good for really

[mental blade]

Ugh, Saturday's the last day and I'm still too busy/distracted to really focus on this.
For now, I'm dropping this here and checking for responses in the morning.
Any minimal-stress teambuilds I could make that can score comfortably above 200k? What Strength values should I use?
Scoring above 200k is the most important priority; comfort/ease is the second-most.

Thanks in advance.

[open flame]

Check my run for strength values... 250 will get you over 200k

#1020530656767385720 message

Save your sandstorm unit for Melony since I notice you don't have NC Silver. Since you need to cancel out her rain.

This is the only benefit to being stingy with my resources is being able to help people more easily

Cuz yeah some stages were headaches even just for low points / minimums

[neat ferry]

Quick question about Brock's rule set - does rebuff count as interference?

[wooden sparrow]

it does not

[neat ferry]

I see, thanks!

[night sleet]

You need para or poison brock

[empty gazelle]

Honestly, I still haven't touched HSE.

I wonder if it's possible for me to do 200k at the very least.

[tiny ore]

you have red and irida

and silver

youll be fine

only need 40k each

[graceful pike]

damn

literal top 20

guys i am cooked

[night sleet]

This how hse now look 🙂 need have alot super for top1-20

Nothing new was expect it

[graceful pike]

ugh

i'd have to actually

get

and use steven for grusha

[night sleet]

Grusha have alot 3 slot

Key is elio and selene

3 kukui grant steven itc

[outer whale]

How the hell am i still top 100?

Granted rank 83 but still

I would have thought i'd be pushed out by now

[tiny ore]

a lot of the ice rock options SUCK

and there isnt a lot to begin with

[night sleet]

Push happend on high ranks:) its why more jump top20 around will drop from top100.

[thorny grove]

Jeez I haven’t even looked at this one. What can I do with these units?

[tiny ore]

you have a hood roster