#High Score

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haughty haven
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While Gladion need 2 Tm to buff 1 to max Def

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Hm

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So sad that Melony cant use Sing effectively against Brock

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Just bc the rule

outer whale
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Oh i'm pinged.... and it's edit requests when i'm asleep...

haughty haven
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Btw

haughty haven
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We only have 2 pairs that can confusion

wooden sparrow
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and 0 for trap!

haughty haven
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Fun

wooden sparrow
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Btw are we somewhat confident NC Red rebuff doesn't work on Brock?

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if it did I can totally see myself shifting him there

haughty haven
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Let me check UB stage

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Yeah

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Seem like Rebuff doesn’t work

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Bc if Rebuff can work it should be wrote: Negative Status

wooden sparrow
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Hmm fair enough

haughty haven
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@outer whale can you raise Grusha to like S against Brock just bc how shit supps this time at tanking Special Atk

cyan tusk
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This is giving me psychic hse vibes

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Where we tank with Velio SophoKEK

wooden sparrow
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the last hse i tryharded was psychic hse SeleneLul

cyan tusk
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Also gladion isn’t a unit we should sleep on bc of his debuffing skills plus he can heal and raise defenses

haughty haven
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Gladion is surprisingly good

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He has way more defensive tool than a lot of supp

cyan tusk
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Gladion + grusha + Hilbert/Shauntal

outer whale
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Let me get on my laptop. both pocket and masters gave me coal today so i'm in pain

haughty haven
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Gotta get all gems today

outer whale
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Apparently working 10 hour =/= something

cyan tusk
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Masters gave me coal too

But not pocket fortunately DrasnaDeathStare

haughty haven
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Pocket just a chill game for me rn

cyan tusk
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It’s super chill, that’s why I like it

haughty haven
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As long as i dont touch online battle, it is good

cyan tusk
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Im the one quitting just to complete the quest

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Participate in the battles

outer whale
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Have to make me work by getting rid of the transparency nyehh. GuzmaCease /jk

cyan tusk
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Is there any place in the server where we can exchange pockets friend code?ShaunaInvestigate

haughty haven
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Yes

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Ping Hexxa in there, the friend code should be pin there

cyan tusk
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Top, just done!
go add me

haughty haven
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After i finish this crab i will

outer whale
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Adding her now.
Spoilers, she's kinda mid.

haughty haven
haughty haven
cyan tusk
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I mean at least she has hail lmao

outer whale
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have fun with 150 Def/Spdef

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Nah, I'm good.

neon prawn
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both the best supports this hse being zoners is.....

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a bit worrying to say the least

outer whale
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wait a minute....

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SHE HAS NO MPR ON HAIL

haughty haven
sullen pier
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🚮

glossy ravine
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I'm curious as to why you're not ontyping Grusha

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For a easier greed score

cyan tusk
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Remember when we used to complain about dark and ghost supports?WEEZing

glossy ravine
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The melony comp is also kinda weird but yeah, not a lot of good options

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Invested Dana is important

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as a special tank

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but Melony should probably be fine as well, yeah

haughty haven
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Bc she weaks to Ground

outer whale
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Grusha and Melony in general have tools that just nuke half the roster

haughty haven
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Elio too

glossy ravine
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I was thinking you put Silver against Grusha and put a hail unit against Melony instead

outer whale
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Grusha has funni EQ, Melony is Physical only

glossy ravine
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even if it has to be Shauntal

haughty haven
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We only have Steven as a Hail Physical

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And why you use him lol

glossy ravine
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Winter Nessa:

haughty haven
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Oh right

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I forgot about her

outer whale
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honestly would rather just use NC Silvver for Melony

haughty haven
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But her SpDef is pathetic

outer whale
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NC Silver/Paulo comp or something

glossy ravine
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Nessa/Dana is fine

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but yeah, Silver/Paulo also works with a meatshield against Melony

outer whale
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Grusha i'd use SS Diantha for

glossy ravine
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Either or

haughty haven
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Silver + Paulo + who tho

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Need Tech/MC or GL

glossy ravine
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If you have a better rock roster beyond Diantha, putting Diantha against Grant is better

neon prawn
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is there a hse chart with the fight details

haughty haven
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Move details?

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You can check PasteBin

glossy ravine
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I don't think you can meaningfully max stuff either way? You can try, I guess

neon prawn
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pastebin stops working for me half the time unfortunately

glossy ravine
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But compression of Tech/MC is hard outside of a few units

neon prawn
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does any hse except grusha spam aoe this time

haughty haven
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Grant with Brutal Swing

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Spam

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Brock has 1 use Surf
Grusha has 3 uses EQ
Melony has 3 uses Icy Wind

neon prawn
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I think grusha SS N will go hard on melony

wooden sparrow
haughty haven
glossy ravine
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or screenshots?

wooden sparrow
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if anything i'd run this draft and then just swap diantha and ss n

neon prawn
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grusha is good at that luckily

haughty haven
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Bc any Sync or Icy Wind under Zone’ll be dangerous

glossy ravine
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Like, your Roxanne/Grant comps are probably set

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Didn't notice this

neon prawn
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SS N grusha has 1k potential and all boosts are taken

glossy ravine
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this is just way better and meets all 3k components anyway lmao

neon prawn
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only issue is SS N is slow af in terms of anim

haughty haven
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Grusha just a best tank this time

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Other kinda sad

outer whale
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@neon prawn the hse doc is done as well

neon prawn
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Oooo

glossy ravine
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Though you might wanna trade HIlbert for something else unless there's no other options

outer whale
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Also, this HSE Doc is much more meme filled because it's to hide the pain we're dealing with this time.

glossy ravine
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@wooden sparrow also is there a reason why you run candice against Grusha

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when Gordie is a thing

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that gapfills gym leader also?

haughty haven
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No

outer whale
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the more memes, the more painful it will be

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think of it as a coping mechanism lmao

haughty haven
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Gordie will just die against Grusha

glossy ravine
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due to?

wooden sparrow
haughty haven
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He is Ground weak

neon prawn
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10/5 will be needed for top 20 this time I assume

glossy ravine
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it's not a ground sync right

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or is it

haughty haven
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He has 3 EQ

glossy ravine
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  • the comp also has a lot of burst
outer whale
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this is the true sleeper unit this HSE fr fr.

neon prawn
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geez, even the flinchers aren't great this time

haughty haven
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And he need to get hit for it

glossy ravine
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when Diantha is right next to him

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lol

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you just use him for the stealth rocks

outer whale
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even if you don't play Nuke gordie, half of his kit isn't even useful for this HSE

glossy ravine
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and the max chip

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and helping to accelerate her cakewalk

neon prawn
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won't you get sniped by triple eq then?

glossy ravine
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Yeah, I'm just wondering why Palentine's Candice is

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a better pick is all

sullen pier
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How many times do Melony setup rain

glossy ravine
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because your support in question is also Bruno

haughty haven
glossy ravine
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I guess since you're running Bruno

sullen pier
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Then Gordie's max move could be useful

glossy ravine
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you need pots to supplement him

haughty haven
glossy ravine
sullen pier
wooden sparrow
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can't wrap my head around stealth rock chip being more useful than candices strong 4 bar moves and flinches

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is it really that good

outer whale
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Gordie's SpDef made me cringe

haughty haven
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Look the difference between Def and SpDef kek

glossy ravine
neon prawn
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game accurate moment

glossy ravine
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  • you don't have to EQ reset
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s that's fine, I guess

neon prawn
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paldice is like the only good flincher this hse

haughty haven
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Kukui is a very good flinched

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Bc stagger

neon prawn
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he doesn't exist

haughty haven
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I even plan to use him to presync Grusha funny enough

neon prawn
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I assume resetting for good rng will be harder this hse because of it only lasting 9 days?

outer whale
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PalCandice is no better either, but she has flinch utility and damage.

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there, i fixed it.

neon prawn
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red can't bypass brock right?

outer whale
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yes

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any passives that hinder damage is overridden

neon prawn
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no ss N or red cheese on brock then

outer whale
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but don't use red for Brock

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Red is better to use on Grant imo

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utilize the rebuff to make it easier on you.

neon prawn
glossy ravine
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we don't have a very good gauge base on ice and rock types

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so it's hard to get away with playing with -4 gauge

outer whale
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Gauge is really bad for ice types.

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Especially for 4 guage users

glossy ravine
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unless you have like, a lot of accel

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Like, I can play Nessa/Hala on a four bar and function just fine

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mostly because of accel

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lol

outer whale
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accel won't help for long battles sadly unless you can manage MPR

neon prawn
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yeah grant is definitely for the ice wrecker duo then

glossy ravine
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I meant more like Hasty Hail kind of accel

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rather than MGA

outer whale
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that can work too but man having to use Hala in general will be painful

oak fulcrum
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and Nessa MPR4 should make that not unbearable to push through should you need to

glossy ravine
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but if you're deprived, you'll inevitably have to settle for scraps

outer whale
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implying everyone has a stacked ice roster LarryDead

glossy ravine
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...which was my point exactly

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Which is you'll have people who will be forced to use Hala even if it sucks

outer whale
glossy ravine
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and I don't think he's that bad like I said

neon prawn
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I think optimal melony will be fauntall (I feel like ss n can nuke through by himself so the special move dr isn't that bad) ss n and grusha

outer whale
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thankfully i'm in a ok position, but my supports are genuinely in scraps. tier.

glossy ravine
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my roster is an actual disaster, jesus

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Will probably be the third time in a row I'll miss the cut

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I only got the cut for water/fairy ghost/dark and the first water

neon prawn
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if ya all call that a disaster, wtf is my roster(sending pic)

oak fulcrum
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I don’t know if I’m cooking personally, definitely wants Elio and Selene levels but otherwise this seems viable maybe

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(move levels will be 3+ across the board)

haughty haven
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Dont worry guy, Selene’ll presync Grusha Hopium

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Wait, no, Grant doesn’t have Tech

wooden sparrow
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definitely going to be missing out with my only 1/5 dana

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I like thr brock team

neon prawn
haughty haven
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Bc SpDef buff ofc

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Also Ice Teamwork

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Healing Hail and Winter Coat

oak fulcrum
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Do you need spdef buff when you have disenchanting strike/noxious hit and team crit immunity in zone?

neon prawn
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oh wait she's the one with the dg tm

haughty haven
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Bc Brock’ll debuff SpDef

wooden sparrow
haughty haven
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-1 aoe on entry too

wooden sparrow
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^ yeah so just debuff offenses alone won't be enough

haughty haven
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I plan to 10/5 her anyway

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I think she can presync Grusha

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That why i’ll play flinch heavy with Kukui also Alola too

wooden sparrow
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the EQ's only come out after sync right?

haughty haven
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It can come early

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But bc you’ll flinch so should be less chance to get hit by it

neon prawn
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*dc

haughty haven
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Nah

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N + Grusha already debuff a ton

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Gladion mostly for healing

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He has Mini pots

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GH from Tm

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Also Healing team Aoe while Ice Zone is up

mortal timber
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!!!!!??????19911919

neon prawn
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oh right ss n drops speed

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I am gonna copy that roxanne team

haughty haven
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Hello Dabbo

neon prawn
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thx

mortal timber
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Good morning

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I felt typing some random signs and numbers

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Dunno why

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But it's all good

neon prawn
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welcome to hell

haughty haven
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Google time

mortal timber
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Merry Christmas/ Happy Holidays

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Love you all

neon prawn
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merry christmas

haughty haven
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Happy Holidays Dabbo

mortal timber
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Not HSE tho, that can go to the trash

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And everyone agrees

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❤️

haughty haven
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I dont celebrate Christmas so very free rn

neon prawn
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oops wrong message

haughty haven
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Yes

mortal timber
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We always ignore time trial grrrrr

oak fulcrum
mortal timber
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11 minutes clear

neon prawn
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why does dena like time trial param

oak fulcrum
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why does dena like DC so much

neon prawn
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actively punishes healing and surviving

oak fulcrum
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the mode’s entire point is time trial param

neon prawn
mortal timber
haughty haven
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Yeah

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We have Super Sparring every month

mortal timber
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I stand by adept's question

neon prawn
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also it's the easiest mode to make a ranked of

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that probably does something

oak fulcrum
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look I don’t mind the free tickets but come on some variety would be nice

haughty haven
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While Lg is found dead

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I want my cookie

oak fulcrum
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and I don’t mean variety pairs like we got this month

mortal timber
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Dude what happened to lg

oak fulcrum
neon prawn
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Dena didn't like lg anymore

mortal timber
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Eh oh Rayquaza wins

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Always

neon prawn
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they will probably change lg

mortal timber
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Like in February when he is gonna get dragon ascent MGR 9

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But anyways

neon prawn
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or the new mode Dena talked about is dropping

mortal timber
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Delusion incoming aside

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How is this HSE looking

neon prawn
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lg had a gap before hse dropped as well

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hell

mortal timber
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Ready with your sa units?

oak fulcrum
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LG realistically only needs to be longer and then everything with that mode is solved

oak fulcrum
neon prawn
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also give 10 deluxe cookies every 10 wins

oak fulcrum
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nah you build up a supply of them anyways once you get used to longer streaks

neon prawn
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you would be in good shape for most hses tbf

oak fulcrum
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the gold deluxe drop rate is actually right where it should be for LG

neon prawn
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Ok supply for gold only tho

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for silver I am out

oak fulcrum
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then you need to do this thing called cookie farming

neon prawn
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I did the lg before it got nuked but my silver supply ran out unfortunately

oak fulcrum
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if LG ever returns take one event to just farm fast longish streaks and you’ll be set on silver and bronze

neon prawn
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will any silver cookie be relevant this hse

glossy ravine
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this is probably the best I can do with my scraps, lol

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my Grusha and Hilbert are only 1/5

neon prawn
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I wonder if 200k is even possible this hse will f2p roster only

glossy ravine
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and my Hilbert is uninvested

haughty haven
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That Grant team look so sad

glossy ravine
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My Regirock is 20/20 3/5

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and my Emmet can be EXRed actually

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not that sad

haughty haven
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Wait

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Sr

oak fulcrum
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Grusha looks worse than Grant surely

haughty haven
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Grusha

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Not Grant

neon prawn
glossy ravine
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Yeah my Grusha team is very sad

oak fulcrum
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we Olivia gaming in this house

wooden sparrow
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very happy emmet is not that viable I did not want to candy him lol

glossy ravine
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because the only other good offensive rock I have outside of Diantha is Emmet

haughty haven
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Olivia without Sand

glossy ravine
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who is ice weak

haughty haven
haughty haven
glossy ravine
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I have no Paulo :V

oak fulcrum
neon prawn
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pull him

haughty haven
wooden sparrow
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you couldn't pay me to candy cblue

glossy ravine
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as in, the other HS

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first time I'm seeing you active here unless my memory is complete shit lol

wooden sparrow
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After psychic hse which I tryharded, nah. I will say I completely mickey moused my way to a top 100 score in dark/ghost

haughty haven
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Quaggles only active when his boy appears

wooden sparrow
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something like that!

haughty haven
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Aka Elio in Psychic and Elio/Selene this time

wooden sparrow
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but for real my roster was just randomly good this time around

glossy ravine
neon prawn
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wish that happened to me outside ground dragon

glossy ravine
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took me a lot to keep my Ghost Dark lol

wooden sparrow
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I got a good score on the last day and just doing probably bicio/pykuo teams with like -200 str lol

haughty haven
wooden sparrow
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what can I say I'm not as good at this gamemode lol

neon prawn
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does ss n look good anywhere outside roxanne

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and melony

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*and

haughty haven
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My Lg = 100% stole team

mortal timber
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Same here tbh

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Looking at you, nao and co. Quaggles

neon prawn
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I am just good in dc

haughty haven
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Ngl

neon prawn
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lg takes too much sanity

wooden sparrow
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we try!

haughty haven
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I’m just so bored with DC

mortal timber
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PREACH

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Bless you spheal shaped friend

neon prawn
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I still like dc but it's mostly because I like how weird it is

haughty haven
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Like i rather use meme team than actual DC team

mortal timber
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My super sparring experience consists in

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1 stage with 1 mil points

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The other 2 just watching

haughty haven
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1m is enough tbh

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Rewards

mortal timber
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This

neon prawn
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super sparring is the easiest to max rewards in

mortal timber
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I wanna underline amazing

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With 100 different colours

neon prawn
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lg is the mode that requires the most community resources true

wooden sparrow
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it's the support like this that keeps us going teehee

neon prawn
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The people arranging thousands of clears must be working hard

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I hope lg is just on a temporary hiatus

mortal timber
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Same here

wooden sparrow
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If LG stops I quit the game

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not to be negative lol

neon prawn
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we would lose a giant chunk of the community if lg actually disappears

mortal timber
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Nah it's fair and understandable what you say quaggles

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You aren't being negative

neon prawn
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a lot of whales also are mostly just attached to this game through lg

wooden sparrow
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not saying that LG is all that I play the game for now

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but i'd say its a pretty big part!

neon prawn
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anyways, does anyone other than paldice or kukui have good flinch this hse

mortal timber
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Same before Arc Suits and SA for HSE here, I got very attached to this mode with everything that has happened

neon prawn
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was gonna try to sync rush brock

mortal timber
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Now boh, i do dailies at late night , sometimes I forget too

glossy ravine
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doubt they do so, + they'll be backlash

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but yeah, they seem to be pushing DC more fsr, probably because player majority enjoys dopamine numbers

neon prawn
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I'd like a permanent training area with good deluxe drop rates

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lg should stay tho

wooden sparrow
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yes until they have another way of getting deluxes they cannot kill off LG

neon prawn
glossy ravine
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or they just introduce a new mode as they kill it off and just focus on LA and "new" stuff, idk

neon prawn
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unfortunately grusha is already occupied

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I am fucked for Brock I think

glossy ravine
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content polarity is a bit dangerous for the game

neon prawn
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I have 5/5 u selene but nothing much to go with her

wooden sparrow
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well until that day I'll be staring at spreadsheets figuring out how I can utilize striker golems 30% flinch

glossy ravine
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because it drives dvision ish

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i wish I had the time to do LG

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I have less and less time to tryhard it

cyan tusk
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Too much stuff to ready I’m just gonna throw a Happy Holidays everyone!
Tag @mortal timber
And disappear again

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And complain about my luck of deluxe cookies bc no lg ofc

wooden sparrow
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I basically drop every video game and just focus on LG whenever it happens now

mortal timber
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Busy too today, preparing lunch and stuff to share with neighbours

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Oven is not working properly sadly so on my way to fix stuff

neon prawn
cyan tusk
mortal timber
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Real hahahahah

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That's my fav sport

neon prawn
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I wish we had more flinchers this hse

mortal timber
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Ez

neon prawn
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I am confused on what to do for Brock

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currently I have dana and Selene for him

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idk who else to add

glossy ravine
wooden sparrow
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whatever video game is in with the boys

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or competing in smash

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then i get shit like this happening lol

night sleet
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Lol

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About lg i expect 3 ways. Dena make new lg we need be honest arc 10/5 make solo most super easy so they can add some like hse difficulty or just some hp itc passive. Or new event or its just gone like thet. If next update no lg small chance it comeback.

sullen pier
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I don't understand what you are trying to say but sure

night sleet
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Dena work on new lg. Way hard one then we have now. I say. Its option since arc sync pair 10/5 super make this mode easy then it was befor. Its why they make break for change it

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Or new event where we get delux cookies

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Or it will be dc and hse only

graceful pike
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Okay bro just put the fries in the bag

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But yeah

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Whatever they do with LG

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I hope it good and worth the wait

cyan tusk
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just add deluxe cookies to hse too

night sleet
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They should be in training arena villa dc hse as well

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Maybe event monthly exchange

sullen pier
graceful pike
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Yes

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Hse reward sucks lol

paper mist
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maybe the real reward was the friends we made along the way

neon prawn
paper mist
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whyyyyy didnt we get LG this past month

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i have no deluxe cookies to use for this

haughty haven
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Ok i’m not feeling great

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The run need 2 HS1

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And

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No deluxy cookie

paper mist
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instead we get the stupid super sparring every month

haughty haven
sullen pier
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I'm starting to think that DC is a mistake

sterile frost
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Maybe some orb rewards can be replaced by cookies if they decide to go this route?

paper mist
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if we don't see LG in Feb then I think its joever

haughty haven
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No more HS1

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No more SP3

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No more Adrenaline 1

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No more WW3

paper mist
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ok that last one might be good, lol

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but really tho, I needed to restock badly and now I can't

storm vector
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and I wanted to balance cookie farming with actual streaking

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skipping dec LG was odd at least

paper mist
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is Red really pre-sync or die against Roxanne even with Protect up?

storm vector
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weak to rock with a pretty standard defensive statline

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we'll have to see...

paper mist
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I'm also assuming +6 Defense too

outer whale
paper mist
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red + irida can probably pre-sync then you use protect against 1 rockslide and freeze the other use and kill it before the 3rd use

sullen pier
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Or sides might be dead beforehand

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Unless Rock Slide is among the move pool they can use pre mid dies

outer whale
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I believe it's the right mon that can rock slide, the left side does brutal swing iirc

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But again, if you can presymc, it won't be a huge problem, but the problem is do you want to waste Irida AND red on the same team?

sullen pier
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Btw what mon does Roxanne use? Is it Cradily?

paper mist
haughty haven
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I know

sullen pier
haughty haven
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Bc i checked mon to know their weakness

paper mist
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I think my brock score is gonna be awful tho

haughty haven
paper mist
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unless I get lucky with Mix pulls which never happens in time for a HSE

cyan tusk
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Daily gods come and bless me for Selene copies before hse SabrinaPray

outer whale
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So here's something you all need to know. Pykuo mentioned it, but no one mentioned it.

sullen pier
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Oh we have to know about Roxanne using Cradily? Got it

outer whale
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Roxanne.... is ice weak, but is weak to Rock Damage field.

Grusha is rock weak.... but He's weak to Freeze...

PetrelWTF

sullen pier
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Maybeeeee the recent 48 mb update fixed the confusion

haughty haven
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So good that i made Link stuck this with me

cyan tusk
outer whale
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I meann if that was changed, then Pykuo, time for round 2

paper mist
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oh yeah

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wonder if absol checked it yet

outer whale
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I'm DMing him now.

cursive olive
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how cooked am i

haughty haven
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Yes

outer whale
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Just DMed, will update if i get a response.

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For context

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He clarified that the HSE info was not changed in the update.

tiny ore
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idk what to make of freeze weak

outer whale
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It feels like a mistake

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Not on absol, but on DeNa's part

tiny ore
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freeze is unreliable so gl getting that to happen

paper mist
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ncred:

tiny ore
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imagine having ncred

outer whale
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It's not about it being reliable though. It's the fact that Grusha is Rock weak

paper mist
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but yeah i dont rely on it outside of ghetsis/hleon when/if i use them

sterile frost
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Well the Rock side in Steel ub also feels like a mistake to me, but considering this is Dena they prob just want to fuck with their players.

outer whale
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Why have someone being less resistant to being frozen when they're weak to rock.

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Same with roxanne

paper mist
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I feel like they knew the roster was bad so if you need to use an ice type against grusha then its useful, idk about roxanne tho since we have like 2-3 pairs with rock df

cyan tusk
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I feel like we can ignore the lessen freeze 7 considering it’s usually 8 or 9. While rock dmg reduction 7 is still some dmg to account for

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Like Bea’s HJK recoil. It was nice even with standfast 9

outer whale
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Again, it's moreso the fact that..... there's no rock units who can freeze in the first place. Especially on Grusha's pokemon who is.... ice type.

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Like i get that freeze isn't reliable, but again, mentioned above

hollow prism
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The only point is blocking their move so you can queue a second move on your other 2 pairs

tiny ore
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i dont think im going to notice the difference

acoustic quarry
deft trout
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Who should i candy?

acoustic quarry
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The answerS would probably be do you aim for more than 200k and if yes then it worth the shot to just wait and see what the big heads do since they share ❤️

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( god thats a lot of Yellow Candies hahah )

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but from what i personaly see, IF you need to, the best / more obvious / look at options would be N and Shauntal i think

deft trout
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I’ll try for top 500

hollow prism
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The JP players hide their shit 🤡

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And Runner

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But he doesn’t hit top 20 anymore

sturdy matrix
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Doesn't exist something like extra candies

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Considering that a single unit can require up to 9 candies to fully upgrade, to have "extra candies" you should probably have something like 500 candies

acoustic quarry
acoustic quarry
# deft trout I’ll try for top 500

For Top 500 i would wait and see some comps to be sure, a wise man once said spend your candies for a high rank, Top 500 is usualy obtainable with the right unit, no neceraly big invest

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( thats you @night sleet BTW remember my first HSE aim, i have growned ! 😄 )

hollow prism
oak fulcrum
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this HS I am not putting in any investment I wouldn't put in otherwise (upgrading SS Diantha and USUM Elio/Selene past 1/5 but I want those for other things) and it'll probably still top 100 lol

sturdy matrix
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Top 500 should be still obtainable without deep pockets, since there aren't that much whales that could afford the super premium investments, but I would say top 100 is probably out of question after the super aWhaling

hollow prism
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Our best placements don’t usually even hit top 3

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Regardless of who is the forerunner of the event

hollow prism
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Nah top 500 is free as fuck

acoustic quarry
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( Top 100 * my aim )

hollow prism
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If you don’t have top 500 ur either a NEW F2P or you didn’t try

hollow prism
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Even an old F2P probably has some units on type

sturdy matrix
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I mean considering hs basically follows the rules of speedrunning, I wouldn't be surprised if having the game set to japanese text would net you more score for some weird reason

hollow prism
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The animations don’t change though

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Only the voice lines which don’t interact with timing in actual gameplay aspects

sturdy matrix
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Like in speedrunning nicknaming your pokemon A makes Speedrun better or something

acoustic quarry
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This is where i stand rn in cooking with Pykuo inspiration ( more like copy paste for 4 teams but no one will notice ofc )
Didn't quited get the situation with the grusha / roxana ice / rock field thing so i guess this is will evolve no mater what
And yes i forgot my phone at my familiy place for christmas so i have to paint team WEEZing

oak fulcrum
hollow prism
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There is no scrolling text

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And voice lines are added onto gameplay after and don’t change move timing

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I’ve tested JP voicelines before

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It really shouldn’t make a difference

sturdy matrix
hollow prism
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Even if there is, that only affects DC and HS with a time trial condition

oak fulcrum
#

Here it's more akin to hardware difference which is actually real

sturdy matrix
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Something like maybe you get 1 frame more reactive button or something like that

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Maybe they have the whales with the deepest pockets + the most perseverance and best skills

acoustic quarry
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I do believe, after playing the game on two diferrent device AND trough miror on PC, that hardware difference will def you up setup stuff like quad queue to take the most " simple " one as exemple for sure

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Now in a gatcha, the whale aspect will always be the there but on the power aspect if that make sens, on the gameplay aspect you could put all the money of the world into the game, and not be able to clean a regular stage that ask some specific rule

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So its kinda a 50/50 balance in the end for PoMa i feel, you need a good device ( that sound wrongs like that but u get the idea ) but you also need the brain to use it

cyan tusk
oak fulcrum
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1k strength gives the opponents 10k extra offenses right? working on some damage calcs and the numbers I see are either way too low (I forgot those stat modifiers) or way too high (10k attack feels like a bunch)

acoustic quarry
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Can't you do it with something like 500 x2 ( dunno if it works like that or no )
But since you have that indicator you know " this is the difficultu of a CS thing you know
You get thoose CS multiplier as reference and work with them ? and then add the eventual stage one directly ?

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( again not really sure it works, just suggesting )

oak fulcrum
#

equivalencies like that are an extremely slippery slope to bad math, so no

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I'm running calcs on things that look like they're going to be rolls

acoustic quarry
#

And the website for stat things does not provide a " HSE feature " ?

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Can't remember the name but surely you see the one

oak fulcrum
#

pomatools calculates the damage you deal, not the damage you receive

deft trout
cyan tusk
#

Ask the #1 elio fan Quagg

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I have a never used 4/5

haughty haven
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My team is modified for not having Bruno after all

feral rain
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folks how are we feeling for this hse

signal needle
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Got both Seleme and Elio from 0/5 to 3/5 from the banner

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Cus Selene being a jerk showing up twice on my 12th multi

cyan tusk
oak fulcrum
idle plinth
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I wanted both of them so I pulled

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Before the banner I have 3/5 Elio and 0/5 Selene

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3rd multi gave me 5/5 Elio and still no Selene so it's not good to continue further SophoKEK

oak fulcrum
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bruhhh Elio didn’t show up until after 300 scout points for me, I thought I was wasting an entire pity on that banner for a copy of each for a long time

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I had five dead multis and three of them only had 3 stars

idle plinth
#

Selene is now a prime candidate for select tho RosaThink

oak fulcrum
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ooh true

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only mix could make me deviate from the Eusine select since he’s my only missing strike PF

idle plinth
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I'm considering Giacomo but considering I have Akari and NC Marnie, I can hold off

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However my only Special Rock is 1/5 CBlue

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And Lodge Steven I suppose

haughty haven
#

What do you mean ? We have Roxanne

idle plinth
paper mist
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I can’t candy Elio at all so I just can’t really use him unless his banner and Mix are nice enough to give me multiple copies, my support candies have to go to SSGG and Atticus

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And I’d rather get a new pair from the Select (or something that needs less copies)

ornate turret
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update with new graphics

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also not the pin being taken down just bc I didn't do the fighting steel one LarryDead

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can a mod repin this

neon prawn
#

nice

sullen pier
acoustic quarry
#

will try to cook when im at home then 😦

feral rain
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support roster in here is quite messed up ngl

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esp if ya dont have grusha

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time to rely on the one and only BASE BROCK

cyan tusk
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Tech and gym leader RoxanneThis

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Uh the graphs are out

paper mist
#

is Grusha any better at 2/5 or is he another useless 2/5

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turns out I have every PF Support so I could get a second Grusha from the Select

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I'll grab Selene only if I don't her from a daily on her rerun

feral rain
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personally im hoping to get one rock or ice limited unit from the mix scout once lucas drops

paper mist
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its funny, the only 2 PF Strikers I'm missing are Selene and Emmet

feral rain
paper mist
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I don't have Sina

feral rain
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oh nvm then 😭

tiny ore
#

im sitting on 2 sprint candy but no units to use it on

paper mist
#

no daily luck and there's no Sprint/Field Select again

feral rain
#

these are the ones im missing

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limiteds that is

paper mist
#

I have like 4 sprint candies and Mela's getting at least 2 of them

feral rain
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im like 3/4ths of the way done with a sprint candy and im giving it to rei

paper mist
#

even if I got Sina I probably wouldn't candy her

feral rain
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i might if she was the only option left for me to candy

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if i got her

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big emphasis on that bc im not feeling spending gems for her outside of mix lololol

cunning shore
#

The Event CSMM made me aware I might struggle to even hit 200k SophoKEK

cyan tusk
#

We all agree rock is one of the worst type in the game atm DrasnaDeathStare

night sleet
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Its why we have ice

hollow prism
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Ice is also shit

night sleet
#

Not realy. Ice have good offensive rooster .

hollow prism
#

Honest not that good

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And defensively it sucks

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The pure damage roster is average, the Tech/offensive support is pretty bad outside Irida

tiny ore
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theyre also mostly pf / mf that need 3/5

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unlike water that has some great f2p options

paper mist
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at least the next one will be better due to much better poison attackers and atticus, and bug has stuff like hilbert, holibugsy and the eventual arc alder

vernal trench
#

A new rule for Brock's stage? Interesting

cyan tusk
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I think we already had it with Elesa in electric hse

paper mist
#

still no return of No Healing yet CalemRelieved

cyan tusk
#

That you had to paralyze opponents

paper mist
#

yeah

cyan tusk
#

But was only status condition maybe (?) can’t remember

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First Misty had no status or interference

vernal trench
cyan tusk
#

Yes it was Elesa bc the stage was originally planned for classic Elesa

outer whale
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I unironically had Absol update the Quest details to show who was weak to what WulfricKEKW

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Updated the Document.

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Brock is staying

cyan tusk
outer whale
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They were not.

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Absol's response.

cyan tusk
acoustic quarry
haughty haven
acoustic quarry
#

@haughty haven Clean IG Screen ! Gonna work on gear tonight BrockChamp

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( Yes Moleny, somehow in my langage Melony cannot be put as team name WEEZing )

cyan tusk
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Also those teams looks nice tbh

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Only the grant team I’d revise

haughty haven
#

I tried my best SadPC

acoustic quarry
#

Yeah we got stuck on Grant but will see how my luck goes on sumons 👍

cyan tusk
#

Oh you did it in the stream room I see BarryPogChamp

hollow prism
#

Red + Irida is overkill ngl

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Unless you think Roxanne is specifically gonna suck

haughty haven
#

Roxanne feels really weak when compared to other stage

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When other stage stuff like EQ, anoying rule

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She has no rules and her strongest move is Stone Edge

acoustic quarry
#

with the parameter also red / iridia can do lot of hits for low amount of time

haughty haven
#

But yeah, Red + Irida definitely really overkill

acoustic quarry
#

Also if i had selene yeah iridia + v hilbert could do something else together

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But rn no lucks on Elio / Selene summons 😢

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But i'm exited, this HSE looks cool ngl

paper mist
#

does it rock your world?

cyan tusk
haughty haven
cyan tusk
#

Og brock instead of kyurem

haughty haven
grand perch
#

LMAO ROARK’S GRADING

grand perch
#

Huh I don’t think my roster can handle Melony

paper mist
#

My Melony score will also be bad since I’ll be tanking with her against herself

haughty haven
#

Almost everyone using her against herself

grand perch
#

Same lol

#

What I got so far LMAO

paper mist
#

Not looking good

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I’m debating selecting Falltal over Sina next month from Mix tbh

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But idk where id stick her. With Sina I’d probably replace Leon or Ghetsis

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Too many 1/5 pairs and several 2/5 too (like both Diancie)

grand perch
#

Oh man yeah

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1/5’s galore

haughty haven
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2/5 Diantha is Spheal_drop

paper mist
#

Hilbert, Vorelei, SSilver, Grusha, Elio, and both Selene and Falltal/Sina once I get her will all be 1/5
Diantha, Hilda, and Paulo are all 2/5, Red is too but if I don’t get him in a daily I do plan on candying him one

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I might select Grusha from the Select to get 2/5 but I have no Support candies to spare this month between Gio and Atticus

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I’m hoping Roxanne team will carry me with some help from Grant and Melony teams since I’m only aiming for top 500

acoustic quarry
#

lodge*

rough forum
#

Holy shit who greenlit melonys stage

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Hail + phys moves

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Also, requiring status/interference in rock/ice is shitty

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Especially with acc drops

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Irida definitely priority on roxanne ig

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I get that Melony is more about sand than hail but still, its so limiting

acoustic quarry
neon prawn
#

only u selene and vilbert counter this I think

haughty haven
#

Other is N or Ghetsis

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Choose your poison

paper mist
#

hleon also has aoe freeze

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but its not reliable and then resilience comes and ruins it

#

you really do gotta use poison (or Gordie) for brock which is so stupid

#

unless there's some confusion/trap pkmn I'm forgetting

haughty haven
#

Lolvely

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So yeah, for Brock you only have like 4 choice against him:

  • Selene (Alt): poison all in one turn
  • V Hilbert: poison 1 by 1
  • Ghetsis: para 1 by 1 (60% with grid)
  • SS N: para 1 by 1 with 2 turn move lol (100% with grid)
tiny ore
#

rip

#

might as well 3/5 V hilbert

paper mist
#

mine's 1/5 LarryDead

night saddle
#

Guess I'll ex him

hollow prism
haughty haven
#

Not 100% counter

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Mostly bc his circle cant reduce Melony’s Sync dmg

tiny ore
#

at least brock cant use hilberts ice zone to smack your entire team w/ icy wind

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idk wtf to make ofmelony

#

no nc silver here

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i think iridia is out bc shes 1/5 and icy wind will massacre me under zone

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So... regular candice it is?

sterile frost
#

Tech weather eggmons are also an option.

paper mist
#

Do you need multiple weather setters? Paulo can remove rain once without 10/5

haughty haven
paper mist
#

You could also use Lodge Raihan and suffer that way too if ur desperate lol

jagged eagle
#

There's egg kabutops with two uses of sandstorm MinaBreak

outer whale
#

We only have 5 viable sandstorm users. 1 locked to 3/5, 2 way too valuable to just be sandstorm users, a lodge unit that only sets it at the beginning of battle.... and eggbutops

cyan tusk
#

Melony is the new Misty BarryPogChamp

outer whale
#

And i should emphasize "viable"

haughty haven
#

Ngl, i really dont like Silver vs Melony match up

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Bc 2 sands

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He also cant tank Special that well unless you grid for it ….. and less dmg overall

tiny ore
#

...and i accidentally candied the wrong ice tech unit

#

whoops

#

at least irida is good

#

might as well 3/5 at this point

grand perch
#

Irida is great yeah, disables quite a few gimmicks and so far nobody really replaces her in an ice team

oak fulcrum
wooden sparrow
wooden sparrow
haughty haven
#

Jeses Christ the gears

oak fulcrum
#

hello Selene

haughty haven
#

I’m so ready to presync Grusha I hope so

oak fulcrum
#

I need to rebuild my teams because I still have them planned on Brock and that clear is just not going to happen

night sleet
#

Nice but this never give high points this way. Last hse we saw it. Better focus on 2 others parameters . Then just on time.

glossy ravine
#

Oh okay

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Rofl

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I'll take it WEEZing

cyan tusk
#

wtf

hollow prism
#

Should have been Emmet Archeops

#

That would have been funnier

night sleet
#

Lol crazy pull nice

glossy ravine
#

I was hoping to get her from the fair daily but

#

This works too

signal needle
signal needle
#

You should put Irida to Brock because of his gimmicks

paper mist
#

Roxanne wants speed debuffs

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I’m only aiming for top 500 so I plan on going all in vs Roxanne with some help vs Melony and Grusha (or Grant I haven’t decided if I’ll keep Diantha there or switch)

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Most of these pairs are only 1/5 or 2/5 with no candy plans outside of Red if dailies are bad

tame bridge
#

Add nc red and I should be good for next hse

#

Hopefully

hollow prism
#

Oh you have no idea what’s about to hit you

tiny ore
#

no melony or dana and 1/5 glacia? yeah youre getting shredded

#

HSE assumes you have your f2p options at 3/5 ex + a bunch of limited units also invested in

#

sorry i dont see you getting very far

#

this looks like its gonna be a obnoxious HSE even for veteran players

tame bridge
#

I didn't mean getting good rewards

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But just doing the bare minimum

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Like the move candy coins

#

Bro why is there so much troll in the hse spreadsheet

rough forum
#

Dennis

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Dennis

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Deeennis

#

DEENNNIS

rough forum
cyan tusk
tame bridge
#

ok lol

tidal pine
#

Not too surprised really

tame bridge
#

surprised with what?

haughty haven
storm vector
#

wtf is roark gonna do in this HSE

#

die?

tidal pine
#

I wonder if other HSE’s will have this unhinged energy

cyan tusk
storm vector
#

maybe if there's more fodder units

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we have normal, poison, flying and bug left

tidal pine
#

Ice has a lot of bottom of the barrel units really

haughty haven
tidal pine
#

I was really expecting Wulfric, Lorelei, Pryce and Brycen having a F ranking in general

cyan tusk
#

Bp Candice lmao

cyan tusk
haughty haven
storm vector
#

maybe they were feeling generous this time

haughty haven
#

Iris is really good at one job to be honest

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Tank with Endure

storm vector
#

💀

haughty haven
#

50% for endure btw

storm vector
#

lmao...

tame bridge
storm vector
#

no but recoil

tame bridge
#

i mean roark carries me on rock weak stages

storm vector
#

1k hp looks great on paper except his defenses aren't ss gio tier

tame bridge
#

or standfast

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whatever its called

haughty haven
#

Nah, you wont use it until the end

rough forum
#

It's not enough

haughty haven
#

Before that most just nuke

tame bridge
rough forum
#

His Steadfast tiles suck

haughty haven
#

But the lack of EX

rough forum
haughty haven
#

Is the thing killing him

tame bridge
rough forum
haughty haven
#

If he has EX, he is really nice at least

tame bridge
rough forum
#

Steadfast 3-5-7 is bad

haughty haven
#

But doesn’t have EX so ew

haughty haven
tame bridge
rough forum
#

No, at all

tame bridge
#

how much then?

haughty haven
#

Just know it still recoil a lot

rough forum
#

It means that if you do 10k damage, you take 600+ hp recoil

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Or smth along those lines

tame bridge
#

so how much standfast removes all recoil?

rough forum
#

That's basically as much as standfast 9

haughty haven
#

3 + 5 + 7 < 9 btw

rough forum
rough forum
#

9 is slightly better

tame bridge
rough forum
#

Than 3+5+7

storm vector
#

basically quality > quantity bc of how the passives stack

#

it's... complicated

tame bridge
#

why is the system so unintuitive

haughty haven
#

But you just need to know it is suck

tame bridge
#

so what about someone like elesa with 2 standfast 5

#

thats even worse?

rough forum
#

3+5+7 means you take 11~% recoil
9 means you take 10% recoil

Iirc

tame bridge
#

then how do people use her as electric dps

rough forum
#

It's pretty easy imo

#

And simple

storm vector
#

elesa has more reliable healing than roark

rough forum
#

Lol

haughty haven
#

Yeah

rough forum
#

9+5+5

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Means you ditch one of the 5 if not both

#

And you're fine

haughty haven
#

She has it after upgrade btw

tame bridge
#

oh ok

#

i didnt see the sttandfast9

rough forum
#

Because as it was said, she can heal

haughty haven
#

Before that you never touch Wild Charge unless last move

rough forum
#

Meanwhile roark has regen (lg material) and fa4

haughty haven
#

If he had single 9, yeah it’ll be ok

#

But 3 and 5 and 7 is just

tame bridge
#

its 0.5% extra damage

#

how is it that much worse

#

2% more recoil than standfast 9

rough forum
tame bridge
#

why the hell is elesa's standfast 9 half the cost of roark's standfast 7

#

that is just

#

absurd

haughty haven
#

Bc that is her upgrade lol

rough forum
#

^

tame bridge
gleaming raven
#

Expansion tiles are low energy in almost every scenario

rough forum
#

PB tiles are 3-5 Energy

tame bridge
#

oh

#

ok

rough forum
#
  • 2 0 Energy stat tiles
gleaming raven
#

The only exception is SS Blue's horizontal expansion bc it was the first one

haughty haven
#

Those mostly fix the pair

#

That why it has low energy so you almost always can take it

tame bridge
#

ok so tl;dr roark sucks

haughty haven
#

Ofc he sucks

tame bridge
#

he has been carrying my rock dps tho so i cant complain much

haughty haven
#

That why he become the meme

storm vector
#

what'd you expect from a genpool 3*

rough forum
#

It can be the difference between proccing first aid or dying

tame bridge
rough forum
#

Roark is usable now

#

He used to have 0 standfast

haughty haven
#

For me, he’ll be usable with Ex

rough forum
haughty haven
#

His nuke is good enough

#

But he doesn’t have EX so

tame bridge
#

why dont they just give all units ex and add outfits later

rough forum
haughty haven
rough forum
tame bridge
#

how long has it been since ex was introduced?

haughty haven
#

What is Sentry Entry x2

rough forum
haughty haven
rough forum
#

As always

#

17k hp SEx2

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Is nothing

haughty haven
#

Yeah

#

She has really low Hp

haughty haven
#

Like old CS

rough forum
#

So almost 5 years

#

But first they slowly released ex on all spotlights too

tame bridge
rough forum
#

First half anni

tame bridge
#

oh ok

rough forum
tame bridge
#

so if they release even 2 ex per month

#

thats 24 per year

#

and 120 in 5 years

rough forum
#

They don't release 2

tame bridge
tame bridge
#

that is still slowly dropping

rough forum
#

Why

#

Why do you think it's bare minimum

tame bridge
#

cuz yes

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because it is mainly a recolouration

rough forum
outer whale
#

Roark in HSE:

#

Spoilers: he did not have a helmet

outer whale
#

I will assure you though that units that ARE viable won't be memed on and will have as accurate of information as I can without going insane It's usually the supports that take the longest to do

cyan tusk
#

As someone said before
Rock and ice are full of trashy units lmao

hollow prism
neon prawn
#

it also helps esase the suffering of this hse

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almost everything except the params is ass

idle plinth
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I'm grabbing Grusha off select later. 3/5 should be enough right

paper mist
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I'm gonna do the same (since I have everyone and 2/5 Elio won't do much) and hope I either get an extra from the pull, mix or dailies on the hse banner for the 3/5

idle plinth
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I'll have 2 Support Candies by HSE but I suppose I can wait until I do 4 dailies on that banner

graceful pike
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Any teams for SS Silver?

rough forum
idle plinth
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I do not plan on pulling the banner beyond 4 daily singles

rough forum
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Womp womp

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<- still hasn't gotten a spook select in 3 years of doing them every now and then

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But I usually get a gen pool at least

night sleet
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266k gems jesus

rough forum
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