grusha red and irida can cause quite a havoc
#High Score
signal needle
Thats the Rock special stadium banner
cyan tusk
Oh right there’s the rock special stadium
storm vector
c blue and ss diantha have been gone for a decent amount of time
but you know who hasnt been rerun for even longer? paulo
sterile frost
Paulo also escaped most select scout.
rough forum
but you know who hasnt been rerun for even longer? paulo
Paulo has never reran in any shape of form to be precise
It's mix or nothing
cunning shore
How good is Paulo in today's Meta
cyan tusk
Imo he’s bad bc he’s attempting to be both a dps and a support but he’s not great in both. Also 1 sand use sucks
cunning shore
I have him as 1/5 so he's trash to me anyways
cyan tusk
At least give him dust kicker lol
cunning shore
I use him as put up shield and skip turns quick unit
cyan tusk
Im not considering him and Classic blue for this hse, 1/5 hell for them
cunning shore
Yeah probably won't have more use than that
And I only use him for Battle Rallies looool
Because he can manage to be useful on there
Skipping turns and setting up shield (free endurance lol)
cyan tusk
Im pulling Hlillie so I can have a sprint+supp dps 
rough forum
How good is Paulo in today's Meta
Not great
But idc
He's cool and very fun to use
Also who knows he could always get pb and an insane SA
sullen pier
sterile frost
One Paulo's sa passive might be set sandstorm on entry or post sync bc as a sand unit he can only set it by max move is pretty annoying
paper mist
he does have it extended, so on entry might be what happens since it'll last til sync
deft trout
I’m not ready
I got leon at 430 and am in the process of finishing the pity, but then i thought of yoloing to pull sina
2415 free, 8900 paid 
neon prawn
wouldn't steel demolish even 1k stages in that scenario
graceful pike
Yes
neon prawn
Wonder what type combo has the highest number of strong comps
oak fulcrum
Steel electric seems like a clear pick for that, maybe steel water instead? But definitely steel something (and good thing we don’t have to see that HSE)
cyan tusk
Water / fairy for me
cunning shore
I had a dream Fire and Bug next
I can't tell you how much i despise that idea
I want Fire Grass
The sun synergy yeeeeeeeeeee
paper mist
Bug+Poison for Half Anni with Arc Alder release and Normal+Flying before we repeat types again in July
Only one I’m 100% sure about is Bug in March with Arc Alder tho
night sleet
Arc Bugsy 🫢
hollow prism
Wonder what type combo has the highest number of strong comps
Well the best type to date is probably Grass
At least in terms of HS events
Electric is out because it falls off hard after Rats and Blue
Fire is out due to lack of supports
Water is up there
So is Steel
Psychic is probably out from lack of damage
paper mist
schilda copy today, need Mix to give me Grusha next pls
Water/Grass HSE would be very Dahlia-centric
hollow prism
Dahlia wasn’t even the best unit in Water Fairy
paper mist
I want Grass+Fire for Sun abuse
hollow prism
She wouldn’t be the best in Water Grass for sure
That would go to Adaman and Cerena
paper mist
not best but her rebuff and wtz for both types would make her one of the most useful if not the most useful
hollow prism
The Grass utility is a farce
It actually would add nothing to her utility on a Water Grass HS
You can only abuse one per stage
atomic rain
its having the option to flex into either comp
hollow prism
I mean Grass Dahlia is just worse tho
atomic rain
no one denies that but its an option
signal needle
2415 free, 8900 paid <:HilbertHmm:625860604347023360>
Dont yolo sina
paper mist
Want her for the PB on her B move and for the HSE but I think I'm just gonna take the L if I don't get her in a daily (and if she doesn't show up in a NY Select)
tiny ore
going for nc blue soon
but idk if he needs 3/5 for dc specifically
or if 2/5 is good enough
paper mist
for DC? he can -2 def&spdef on sync if you want that little extra damage
otherwise 2/5 for HE2 (and TM MPR if you need SMUN for ppl like NCRed's syncs)
tiny ore
I have a support candy on hand atm
cant afford to 3/5 him tho bc jacq is gonna be eating my next omni
rough forum
but idk if he *needs* 3/5 for dc specifically
For DC probably not
It's good but not absurd there
Still, his 3/5 is pretty uncontested as one of the best in the game
tiny ore
oh yeah
technically true but we got 3 at once
like they havent been that generous since
rough forum
Well the game back then also ran on 15-18k gems per month
And content was extremely dry
With barely any rerun monthly
tidal pine
I think candies were much scarcer back then
rough forum
Yep
tidal pine
I remember when that gift were given, BP was just added
rough forum
We used to get only whole candies
Coins came much later
Now we get 5-6 candies per 3 main roles, 3-4 of sprint field and 3 omnis per year on average
tidal pine
but yea, a free candy is still appreciated for me 
oak fulcrum
why are the ice/rock supports so uninspiring...
paper mist
wym? Youve got:
-Rock support that raises party Def
-Rock support that raises party Def
-Rock support that raises its own Def
-Rock support that raises its own Def
-UNUNUNUN
-Ice support that raises party Def
-Ice support that raises party Def
-Glacia
shell oak
i cant wait for them to drop the master fair ice support that raises group sp def
paper mist
wonder if we could see Tyme next month
outer whale
wym? Youve got:
-Rock support that raises party Def
-Rock support that raises pa...
Thank you for the UNUNUNUN
paper mist
she's probably the reason why Lodge Arven got Nacli instead of Garganacl
sterile frost
i cant wait for them to drop the master fair ice support that raises group sp de...
Dana:
paper mist
most of these can't tank that well
and the majority that can can only tank physical attacks
oak fulcrum
Bea tanks super well... she just desperately needs hail to do so
but yeah the support roster might be why I don't push this HSE at all
paper mist
elio can tank but he only buffs his own defenses so syncs will kill your team even with solidarity up
PalBea teams will suffer from the same issue
oak fulcrum
yeah the support roster just feels like it's fundamentally missing something and they can't solve all those issues next month
paper mist
support tyme & salt who's the premium support for the hse
sterile frost
It's much like ghost/dark supports before FAcerola & FGardenia jumped in.
So rock/ice support for ny pairs confirmed!?
paper mist
for offensive debuffers, You've got like...Arven (attack only), Ghetsis, SSN, Gordie via Burn, Falltal, SSilver under RNG with 5/5, Irida (SpA only), Vilbert, DCGladion RNG, DCNemona (attack only)...
mixed attack type fights will absolutely suck unless you pre-sync or like, use bp olivia
haughty haven
Next HSE check supp so hard
Cant wait too see another Zinnia stage and destroy everything unless you have thing like Grusha
paper mist
Grusha, Roxanne, and BPOlivia are the only ones who buff both party defenses, yeah
oak fulcrum
I'll finally have to EX my Roxanne, won't I?
paper mist
she'll still die in like 2 hits, but yes, you will
haughty haven
elio can tank but he only buffs his own defenses so syncs will kill your team ev...
I think high chance we’ll use him with SS Diantha
Bc at least SS Diantha can buff party Def
paper mist
I was thinkin the same
haughty haven
I'll finally have to EX my Roxanne, won't I?
I think she’ll hmmm shine at the the stage that spam move like EQ ?
But she’ll just lose like 70% her hp in a single hit
paper mist
isn't that most hse fights lol
oak fulcrum
mine's 20/20, she's ready to go
but also I could EX LG pairs instead
paper mist
eq/bulldoze are always spammed in like 3 fights
haughty haven
Her HP just too poor
worldly parcelBOT
Weak: 
General Pool
Roxanne (Fall 2023) & Runerigus
paper mist
she does have endure on grid but
oak fulcrum
yeah but 500something HP at 5 star
oak fulcrum
oh, 524 5* 20/20
paper mist
she's also one of the few speed buffers here
oak fulcrum
294 in defenses at least?
paper mist
+def, +spdef (but only +3 max without getting defense/speed debuffed), +speed
cyan tusk
Btw I’m just saying January is the perfect month to add lodge Diantha and aurorus to the game….rrrright?
I’m ok with tyrantrum too
sterile frost
I don't think they'll add another Kalos so quick, considering Nov we just got one.
Jhoto, Hoenn and Alola are more likely bc only 3 units in lodge (Kalos has 4).
idle plinth
They won't add Spheal because you will quit right after and DeNA don't want that 
idle plinth
Oh ye RIP 
storm vector
Hoenn = Spheal right?
lodge glacia… one can always cope
signal needle
she's probably the reason why Lodge Arven got Nacli instead of Garganacl
One reason yes and two they like releasing pre evos for lodge units
cyan tusk
I’d say for protags and rivals, bc champions are getting fully evolved mons of their game teams
acoustic quarry
Managed to get Ludiwg and Glaceon 2/5 and Sina Glaceon 1/5, almost saved /o
Just need some luck on Elio now 
paper mist
tomorrow's the last day for me to get Sina from a daily
paper mist
I'll be able to pity Mix next week so I'll have to decide if I want to grab Grusha from it or something else and Select him at NY instead
assuming its by role I only need him, Arven and Milo
acoustic quarry
I guess we are in a similar state then haha
paper mist
well, goodbye Sina 👋
cyan tusk
I don’t remember, do they update mix scout every time the spotlight unit changes or just once a year? Bc if so Sina goes straight into mix banner at the end of the month
(Just got an additional grusha copy btw, might candy him to be actually usable this time)
paper mist
every time the spotlight changes, so when Mix Leaf's time ends at the end of this month we'll get someone new with all the prev limiteds added in (aside from whatever's running at the time, which I think should be only the Holiday pairs?)
cause back in May, SCBarry and Selene banners were still up when Mix Blue was added so they weren't added to the Mix pool until Mix Leaf came
cyan tusk
Ok so Sina can be a pick for January hse for whoever needs her
paper mist
yeah
when I can pity again in Jan I think I'm gonna be more likely to pick up a Seasonal/SC than PF due to the NY Selects though
and the chance in the later 100 ticket scout in Feb
acoustic quarry
well, goodbye Sina 👋
u missed her ? 😦 sadge
paper mist
She didn’t come in dailies so
I have to show some discipline and save gems for half Anni
paper mist
IF I'm desperate enough I'll pity her in the next Mix rotation since I should be able to pity before HSE ends, but I'll probably want to grab someone else
tiny ore
depends on what ny brings i guess
paper mist
hoping we get Sprint/Field selects this time now that we actually have more than 1
oak fulcrum
A sprint/field select would save me a candy on something but idt I'd mind it
tidal pine
a Sprint + Field select does feel warranted by now
sterile frost
Most field goes to seasonal, like HViola, NY Wallce, SGardenia...
main pulsar
Because they’re aware it’s the worst base role
hollow prism
they give out more fields than supports now tho
paper mist
field > sprint
paper mist
would rather use a base Field than a base Sprint
and most sprint exr would have been better as something else
paper mist
on Supports, yes
hollow prism
and Field as a base role is far and away the worst base
It’s not even remotely clos
paper mist
not on strikers or techs who dena favors giving it to the most
rough forum
Field is imo one of the best EXRs but worst base roles
hollow prism
Nah i think any damage unit that focuses on Sync prefers to give up either Strike or Tech in exchange for a faster 2nd sync
Like Rei doesn’t need the Tech to hurt so he uses Sprint well with TM and Flinch
paper mist
or you could just get the extra damage in and be done with it, or set up a field to have stronger syncs while freeing up a team slot
hollow prism
Field is imo one of the best EXRs but worst base roles
Nah Field is just garbage period
paper mist
its not
hollow prism
Field can be replaced by making the unit simpler and giving them the Zone as a move
Which they should be doing anyway instead of the “spam shit at the wall” design they have rn
rough forum
Nah Field is just garbage period
Considering everything i think it's one of my fav EXRs because how it can help a unit compact utility vs wtz required stages
I do agree it's the worst base role, but as exr i do like It on techs and supports a lot
hollow prism
I can’t think of a single unit with Field that doesn’t have the WTZ move that can’t fit it in their kit
And all of them would love to have it
rough forum
Sure it's pretty garbage on strikers but for sprints It has also added value
paper mist
And all of them would love to have it
every pair would love to set their own wtz
hollow prism
Field roles are meant to though
rough forum
Yeah i was about to say
paper mist
they would also love to sync accel and max out their offenses or defenses and max out debuffs and--
rough forum
Field roles are meant to though
That's a balancing problem, not an inherent flaw of the role
hollow prism
Support gives you that permanently
hollow prism
That's a balancing problem, not an inherent flaw of the role
Field alone is not sufficient for a zone setter
You need 2 uses of Zone minimum to be considered a proper setter
And realistically you need either extension on both or MPR
rough forum
Who is talking about being a "proper setter" here
hollow prism
If they’re not filling the role of being a zone setter then their role isn’t useful
rough forum
I mean that if og cynthia had field exr over tech i would definitely not complain about it as it lifts pressure from rika
paper mist
that's not complicated to understand
rough forum
Same goes for a lot of other units
paper mist
you don't always need 2-3 extended uses of a wtz, most of the time 1 is enough.
hollow prism
that's not complicated to understand
Doesn’t make them passable as a functioning unit in that role
rough forum
I mean that if og cynthia had field exr over tech i would definitely not complai...
In fact, i would have exrd her already if she did
hollow prism
Mix red for example is not sufficient for setting Grass
You need a better Grass setter
rough forum
But strike/tech is already super cluttered so who cares
paper mist
still gets the job done
hollow prism
It absolutely does not
Mix Red is starving for more zone like no one’s business
All 3 mix units for that matter
rough forum
Mix red for example is not sufficient for setting Grass
To be fair gterrain as a whole kinda sucks viability wise
hollow prism
No it doesn’t
paper mist
it does for me
hollow prism
Mix Red would be absolutely bonkers if he did it properly with Grassy Terrain
And Adaman is one of the best Tech nukes in the game
paper mist
there it is :)
hollow prism
GT is an amazing WTZ
rough forum
I mean it's on
- ace, can't tank
- vhilda, can't tank
- SS lyra, low DPS
rough forum
The big GTers are kinda mismatched
Kinda is actually an understatement imo
But still
hollow prism
news flash: not every pair needs to be "bonkers" actually!
If you’re suggesting that units being made worse due to kit sabotage is a good thing then idk what to tell you
If a concept as it stands is not great then fine
paper mist
I didn't though
hollow prism
But don’t actively keep a unit from their full potential
That’s what Field role does rn
paper mist
almost no pairs will have their full potential. that's literally what having 3 sync pairs to work with means.
rough forum
Mix Red would be absolutely bonkers if he did it properly with Grassy Terrain
I genuinely think him having to give up razor leaf or mini pot all for grassy wish(?) would be a bit bland and annoy people much more as it's a p2w unit we're talking about
hollow prism
I genuinely think him having to give up razor leaf or mini pot all for grassy wi...
Why?
I’m arguing it would make him better and he suffers as a unit without it
That’s pretty hard to argue
rough forum
Because he'd be miles better than the accessible limiteds?
paper mist
he does not suffer that much, plenty of people use him just fine
you're overexaggerating
hollow prism
Because he'd be miles better than the accessible limiteds?
Why does that matter
hollow prism
he does not suffer that much, plenty of people use him just fine
He absolutely does. He needs a secondary zone setter to function
Sure “it’s a 3 pair team game” yada yada i get it, but then don’t give him the field at all and give him other stuff in exchange for it
rough forum
And yeah him being "gimped" by his role was discussed already as a mismanagement by DeNa, not a flaw of the role itself, as wtz gatekeeping is the ultimate Powercreep
hollow prism
If he wasn’t gonna work as a zone setter why give him an unviable “replacement”
Just admit ur not gonna give him GT and he has to be given GT by teammates
and give him Tech to nuke harder
Field is useless here
rough forum
Why does that matter
Because this game held up because of how low p2w it is, starting to lock core units behind a banner like mix would be surely much scummier than average DeNa
hollow prism
It’s not like Fire units that really want sun suck bc they can’t set the sun well or at all
But why give him Field if he’s not able to fill that role?
Ur wasting a role slot
rough forum
Just admit ur not gonna give him GT and he has to be given GT by teammates
Idk, i never had big struggles when using him in rally
hollow prism
Because this game held up because of how low p2w it is, starting to lock core un...
I have every single time
rough forum
As a wtzer
paper mist
Mix Red has been a big savoir for me in BR
rough forum
Mine is also 1/5
paper mist
nah
hollow prism
He does not do enough after that, at least for Mid, you need Nate or Geeta
rough forum
I also basically use 1 powerup until stage 10 at best
hollow prism
So do I
paper mist
he can set poison for stages that need status, he can set WTZ in every new fight that needs wtz, he can team heal, he can debuff
hollow prism
He can only kill sides, and that’s with Outrage help from Nate
Mid is out of the question
paper mist
mix red is very useful for all the gimmicks you have to deal with in BR
rough forum
Mix Red is only useful as a tank post A5
Idk, i used him as DPS alongside stuff like event Victor and Geeta/Volo/solgalillie for a lot of EBEs in br
rough forum
he can set poison for stages that need status, he can set WTZ in every new fight...
Mine actually can't because 1/5
paper mist
if you
hollow prism
Idk, i used him as DPS alongside stuff like event Victor and Geeta/Volo/solgalil...
That doesn’t sound viable at all
He cannot do enough without another setter
paper mist
re trying to use Mix Red as the main DPS you're clearly using him wrong
hollow prism
re trying to use Mix Red as the main DPS you're clearly using him wrong
He’s literally the best Special Grass DPS
wtf are u on
His competition is SCRosa
Literally
rough forum
His competition is SCRosa
No exr on SCs moment ;_;
hollow prism
Mix Red absolutely has the damage to be used as primary DPS
And he IS
Mix red is usually used as primary DPS for Grass
But again, you need Acerola to set grass for him
rough forum
Since mine is 1/5 exr i use him as side gauge light DPS with debuffs + sustain
paper mist
I mean, Naomi is the best Special Ground but you don't use ground-types for special damage. for grass you're more likely to be using physical damage overall.
rough forum
And i can say he performs incredibly better than mix Blue, who's who's exrless but also 1/5
paper mist
Mix Blue wntas damage and not much else
hollow prism
There are only two units that do more damage, and they are both single target Tech Nukers
paper mist
Mix Red and Leaf are both better than him
rough forum
No leaf here so idrk
hollow prism
So Yes I do use Mix Red for primary AOE dps and yes i’m pissed that they intentionally botched his kit by giving him bad WTZ capabilities
That’s very reasonable
paper mist
she's also a pseudo tank who debuffs, but she debuffs offenses rather than defenses like red
she also has mind games 9 on grid iirc
rough forum
I think only mix Blue feels botched kitwise
paper mist
same
rough forum
Probably because his competition is much fiercer
hollow prism
Mix Blue is fine
paper mist
but also Fire is already very competitive so making him the damage dealer of the 3 types was gonna suffer regardless
hollow prism
Mix Blue is the least offended by his lack of sun
Sun is so ubiquitous that it doesn’t matter as much
And he has a strong teammate in NCLeaf
Mix Red and Leaf are far more upset about their WTZ setup
rough forum
she's also a pseudo tank who debuffs, but she debuffs offenses rather than defen...
Red debuffs offences rng at base, -2 spdef from buddy
She debuffs spdef -1 guaranteed but offences from buddy guaranteed too?
hollow prism
but also Fire is already very competitive so making him the damage dealer of the...
He is the damage dealer for meta Fire though
Mix Blue is optimal to pair with Leaf and Morty
rough forum
Mix Blue is the least offended by his lack of sun
I personally find him much more of a letdown solo than Red instead
Ofc when i run SS morty with him he performs fine
hollow prism
Mix Red scrapes by solo from Gradual Healing MPRs
rough forum
But when i use both in random point maxing teams Red does quite better
hollow prism
But his damage output solo is a serious problem due to lack of GT
hollow prism
Have you seen LG solos of him and how carefully people have to play around his lack of GT?
paper mist
Red debuffs offences rng at base, -2 spdef from buddy
She debuffs spdef -1 gua...
yes, -1 atk/spa plus -1 spdef on base and a second MG9 on grid
hollow prism
It’s awful
paper mist
so she can do -2 spdef as well
rough forum
Have you seen LG solos of him and how carefully people have to play around his l...
No because if It was for me LG wouldn't exist
paper mist
I use her as the tank in my fieldstrike rounds every time since she buffs her own defenses (and I don't have red caked)
hollow prism
Ok fair
But neither is red for solo DPS
They both need a setter
And Blue and Red are pretty much the exact same tbh
They do roughly the same damage, with the caveat that Blue has more enablers and Red can tank better
rough forum
Reds sustain and much better debuffs at base go so much harder than -1 cd and slower, mixed debuffs
hollow prism
If Red’s primary role was complete that would really matter
But it came at the cost of his primary role
It’s the same issue of DeNA losing sight of the prize when designing units
They need to focus on a role that a unit intends to fill and stick to it until it’s finished
THEN add more stuff
paper mist
they fumbled that long ago when Techs got everything including becoming better dps than strikers. even now techs are still basically everything.
hollow prism
Not really
Techs being primary damage is very different from Strikes being primary damage
paper mist
sprints and fields are basically the same but they're just guaranteed to have sync accel/wtz now
hollow prism
The way the team works is different
If it’s a strike you want as much damage boosting as possible and don’t care about slowing the enemy down
And the strike has no utility to reflect that
A Tech has utility but is slower and will leave sides open
So you want to slow down the enemy and also speed up your own setup
Relying solely on your Tech’s sync grid to carry damage
rough forum
Not really
Erm
paper mist
for example, SS May wasn't very "tech"y to me. Debuffs have never been strictly a Tech thing (even SSBrendan, who released alongside her, has debuffs and is Support) and the only real Tech thing she has is the sync.
paper mist
and she's not even the only example
paper mist
NCBianda is basically a Tech who is Strike for some reason
rough forum
paper mist
yeah
rough forum
Those two are great but a mess in terms of "wtf are these roles bruh"
paper mist
But Cheren has rebuff! That makes him a T- oh wait Bianca has it too? nvm
hollow prism
Nc bianca too
Cheren and Bianca are oddballs
I still don’t know what they were cooking with those roles
haughty haven
sterile frost
Cheren is not really odd imo bc nowadays a lot of "tech" actually really just do dmg.
Cheren also has rebuff and speed down and that's enough for a tech these days.
acoustic quarry
main pulsar
Cheren is not really odd imo bc nowadays a lot of "tech" actually really just do...
techs are just strikes with good sync moves
at least nowadays
and you have units like silver and ncbianca with the wrong base role of strike
roles mean nothing anymore
but also field is great for certain units that struggle with their respective field uptime(sstr and ss diantha LOVE their field rolex)
but like akari for example wouldve been better as like anything else lol
i mean the dark zone is nice but her uptime is still shit even with her rolex
hollow prism
roles mean nothing anymore
They do, it just can be broken, but it’s better to look at a general purpose a unit does on the team instead of their role
cyan tusk
Btw imo sprint as based is really good bc innate multipliers 
sterile frost
It still depends on the units.
If a sprint has doodoo multipliers it'll be bad in dc, like DC barry asking for multiple stat down.
On the other hand sometimes fields just elevate strikers into 1M when they're prob not capable of without wtz, like Hala uses DC Gladion to hit 1M.
tiny ore
It still depends on the units.
If a sprint has doodoo multipliers it'll be bad i...
nah hala hits 1m just fine w/ redlax and colress
from a long time ago
just needs ok gear
sterile frost
nah hala hits 1m just fine w/ redlax and colress
Ah yeah seun is same boost as zone, but I mean pure f2p clear.
night sleet
Fubert silver and selene
cyan tusk
Sina is really good too. Selene don’t know tbh it’s gonna be up to the stages
But sina and Hilbert have more overall utility
outer whale
I definitely want to 3/5 sina eventually.
cyan tusk
Also in other game modes. I unexpectedly got 3/5 sina so exr her and she’s giving me lot of joy in rally
night sleet
Elio can be prob need as well
outer whale
Elio i feel will be fine at 1/5
cyan tusk
Elio’s problem is that he’s like or 1/5 or 5/5
outer whale
Yea
cyan tusk
No in between level gives him enough
night sleet
Hard tell about it but best wait
night sleet
When we get hse
outer whale
I mean, if i were to use Velio, I'd add Olivia or Vselene with him
cyan tusk
Datamine in 2 weeks
outer whale
Even Kukui is possible
cyan tusk
I’d say elio + Selene + Nemona also
To play under zone saving SSDiantha for another stage
outer whale
That could work yea, but we gotta see if there will be a special damage reduction
cyan tusk
Yup we need to wait
outer whale
Which feels obvious as a rule
cyan tusk
I might pull the trigger and full invest into grusha lol it depends on the stages
outer whale
Curious to see how Grusha will do here
cyan tusk
Bc the special dmg reduction stage might be played with ice
Nc red and bye bye
cyan tusk
Curious to see how Grusha will do here
10/5 grusha is gonna be at another level
outer whale
10/5 though yeesh
cyan tusk
Him + Hilbert and Sina is a free 1K imo
outer whale
Oh yea, i could 100% see that with sina and hilbert alone
cyan tusk
Yeah I know, but he’s one of the unit who got the best SA imo
Another 1K can be NcRed+Irida+….glacia?
cyan tusk
Well, she has 60% flinch
outer whale
She does, but her problem is lack of actual hail damage dealers aside from Candice
sterile frost
If the conditions ask for gym leader or seasonal + set hail or sand you'll be happy you have her ig.
outer whale
True
Just trying to think this out because I have 2 field candies, and I'm debating on candying one of the valar trio. But the fact that neither type has a limited field role scares me next month
hollow prism
Sina is really good too. Selene don’t know tbh it’s gonna be up to the stages
Yeah Sina is the 3rd best Ice
Idk why everyone has ignored her all this time she’s busted
Her Damage is quite high, she has several forms of Sync CD, and she maxes team evasion
sterile frost
I think it's just bc NC Red exist.
Same reason why ppl ignore most electric types barring supports these days.
cyan tusk
She gives + 2 Eva to the team, not max
But I think she got ignored bc of the character
static oar
also she's still pretty recent in the grand scheme of things
scarlet summit
I would never candy a 5* BP ticket sync pair personally lol
Unless you have a lot of extra candy
tiny ore
The question is which one to 3/5
dana or morgan
outer whale
ok, so dana
hollow prism
I only talk about good units
Also if ur getting 3/5 Dana you better hope there’s an Ice Weak stage so she is actually useful at all
Because she ain’t doing shit without Ice passive and SE up
tiny ore
i mean her competition aint great
outer whale
Also if ur getting 3/5 Dana you better hope there’s an Ice Weak stage so she is ...
Or rock weak
Again, I HAVE the super bp tickets to 3/5 someone, so it comes down to do I want more potion reliability or a more reliable dana
paper mist
I'd just wait til we know the info in 3 weeks
deft trout
Should I cake fshauntal or usum elio
tiny ore
iirc elio is kinda meh even at 3/5
deft trout
I’m 2 sprint cake coins away from a cake and 2 tech coins away from a candy, so I can wait. Would you candy ss silver, ss n, or fshauntal?
sullen pier
It's best to wait for the stage info before making any investments
deft trout
sullen pier
Skill issue ||on her part||
sullen pier
Yeah it was funny and tragic at the same time
deft trout
I invested and got 200k on last day all hs except for steel/fighting
I’m top 500 material
sullen pier
That's cool, top 500 material
deft trout
I blame my procrastination
Imagine having 5/5 ascynthia and 5/5 aslance and getting bare minimum
wooden sparrow
with my newly obtained irida i think i'm willing to give this hse some effort 
cyan tusk
with my newly obtained irida i think i'm willing to give this hse some effort <:...
I’m not expecting nothing less from the USUM duo proud max investment owner
OFC still missing key units like Nessa or CBlue but it is what it is
wooden sparrow
only need 15 units so I'll just hope and pray they are not useful in any meta teams lol
sullen pier
I understand Nessa can be relevant but Classic Blue?
wooden sparrow
classic blue seems pretty good with 5/5 tiles and then crazy with SA
gleaming raven
he has the 10/5 which is pretty nice
easy access to -3, rock zone on sync + extension could help quite nicely, and i'd imagine he would pair fairly nicely with Selene
wooden sparrow
I don't even have 9 candies in total, let alone the right ones for cblue so i'm willing to let him go lol
probably the biggest hole in my roster is that i'm unwilling to invest into paulo and I can't imagine he won't be relevant for this
gleaming raven
yeah, Paulo seems rather nice for this
i'm glad i have him invested already
doubt i'm gonna try to push too much but my rock roster is at least on the good end
haughty haven
easy access to -3, rock zone on sync + extension could help quite nicely, and i'...
My only problem with that is that Selene really want another circle user (namely Elio ofc)
But Elio cant buff aoe Def/SpDef
And idt 2 circle can save them at 1000 Str
Ngl i really think about Elio + Selene + Bp Olivia
gleaming raven
Yeah
I'm hoping that Selene's 10/5 is gonna alleviate a bit
Sync Burst or something seems fairly likely to me, at least
rough forum
Giving her rock zone on Sync and circle extension would be cool
gleaming raven
i'd doubt circle extension, they tend to not give skills the character already has on their grid with these
cyan tusk
Guys I was just joking lol
cyan tusk
Ngl i really think about Elio + Selene + Bp Olivia
I was thinking the same comp lol
hollow prism
with my newly obtained irida i think i'm willing to give this hse some effort <:...
Not even I am that committed to alola to 10/5 Elio wtf
Have fun with this dumpster fire of a type combo
hollow prism
~~_OFC still missing key units like Nessa or CBlue but it is what it is_~~
Key units like Nessa and CBlue
paper mist
I have 2/5 Clue but no Hessa
cyan tusk
Guys they will probably be trash anyway
Only usable unit will be 10/5 CBlue bc of rock zone ext but still there are way cheaper and better units since is a dual type imo
gleaming raven
Blue could have a niche if there's a stage that really wants mixed damage ig
cyan tusk
It’s really really niche bc you can just run grusha + double dps or Elio+double dps too
storm sinew
whos the f2p water option? for special dmg nuking
is it may (swampert/wailmer?)
oops
i thought this was DC
onyx current
Ye it’s May but high score is the one where 1 or 2 types are chosen for you to get a bonus
graceful pike
the fact that she is getting an SA skill means
a lot is gonna happen
being a pokefair i think classic blue might have a use
like say, debuff
but other than that idk, he feels so mid
hollow prism
I like how far we’re digging into the pool for this type combo 💀
graceful pike
also
i doubt sa would help most of the sync pairs in here
like
at least calssic blue
one zone does not do a lot
unless
all of the battles start with
a negative zone that we must change
rough forum
SA will definitely impact a lot in big scheme of things
- grusha
- Sina
- elio
- Selene
- paulo
Have potential or already have really huge SA differential
cyan tusk
Grusha is gonna be huge
Elio is gonna be quite an addition bc of the extra zone on sync. Sina I don’t think her SA would change a lot
gleaming raven
Sina's is nice just bc her early output is her strongest output
So the entry zone is more impactful than it would be for any average pair
night sleet
All SA will make big difference since we have alot sync pairs wat have it on this hse.
haughty haven
What a great opportunity to skip this HSE
paper mist
All PF will have Awakening for HSE going forward which isn’t fun
graceful pike
SA will definitely impact a lot in big scheme of things
- grusha
- Sina
- elio
-...
i only have 2/5
graceful pike
What a great opportunity to skip this HSE
so true
tiny ore
might as well grab the basic rewards and dip
rough forum
I'll just aim for 300k possibly
tiny ore
Gonna try hard enough to get a nice round multiple of 5 bc i need those tix
oak fulcrum
I have everyone and I’m not going to try super hard, just making investments on my Elio and Selene finally but I lack the vertical investment to feel good about my chances of a strong score
tiny ore
still working on exing everyone
night sleet
I want see stages and parameters for points. If this is worth try hard🤣
But we sure don’t get rule about hp left since sup is limited realy and way off heal too
So this is scratch for sure
graceful pike
I’ll skip ~~or won’t i?~~
you will get top 20 again zzzz
night sleet
We sure get wtz on some stage maybe even on all can be bonus ponits
graceful pike
and i will blame you
night sleet
Since hail sand itc we have alot units wat can set up
Now 10/5 have entry on sync
So this can be for 1000 points rule
Wtz
onyx current
still working on exing everyone
Now that’s a draw from doing high lg streaks hmm
night sleet
No lg nothing to do🤣 only hse left on the board
I count 23 units rock ice can set wtz
Some off course only 10/5
But most can do it any way
tiny ore
Now that’s a draw from doing high lg streaks hmm
im at 254/347 rn
Slowly working my way through
sprint are the lowest priority rn
onyx current
I’m 165/289
tiny ore
youre getting there
onyx current
Ye I didn’t even notice u was closer to most of my roster being EX than not
tiny ore
theres a couple of units that dont even have a ex
havent touched those
Ofher than maybe getting them to 4*
just not worth the resources atm
gonna have maybe 3 more 4* to get to 5* byt the end of the month?
onyx current
I accidentally 20/20’d BP registeel for last Hs thinking it could ex lel
tiny ore
after that im turning the 4* to 5* PU
lol
I mean bp registeel could use some extra bulk
at 1/5 its tanking could use a bit of help
onyx current
Ye
tiny ore
im someone who got regirock and cobalion to 20/20
onyx current
Swag
tiny ore
dont regret it btw
cyan tusk
I’m not making any final consideration untill datamine is out but probably gonna go top 100, it’s up to how many whales will SA the rock/ice units
Sorry I’m waiting for sssteven
Also got the Steven super fan title so that place is taken forever
tiny ore
gonna be rolling the elio PF later on or nah
cyan tusk
Doing dailies bc move levels are nice but not going any further
tiny ore
fair
night sleet
We need like lucky skills more place for titles🤣
cyan tusk
Currently have 1/5 Selene and 4/5 Elio
cyan tusk
Rn I’m trying save something, fortunately got everything I wanted for this month
tiny ore
nice
cyan tusk
Also not going for 3/5 Lillie by pulling multies, or she gets 3/5 via dailies or she’s getting my next sprint candy
tiny ore
Having to skip so many banners means that i cant afford to save whenever they rerun lol
cyan tusk
tiny ore
love it
cyan tusk
Me meeting so many hse top players in coop
And @onyx crystal
tiny ore
i have the steven superfanone too but i just use the top 100 LG one
cyan tusk
My Ice/Rock roster
The 7/5 Elio
cyan tusk
i have the steven superfanone too but i just use the top 100 LG one
I have a top 20 hse and a top 20 super sparring but Steven is staying for a long time
Rn elio is 2nd best SA for this hse
Only behind grusha imo
They really fixed grusha with sa tbh
storm vector
my rock/ice roster is pure F2P with the exception of 2/5 ss diantha
haughty haven
but i still like it
storm vector
i should totally tryhard this time
cyan tusk
And it’s more than fair I’m just making overall assumptions
And praying sssteven SA do not suck
storm vector
hitting 200k might be an issue
cyan tusk
storm vector
And praying sssteven SA do not suck
debut: psychic terrain upon thee
(no extension)
haughty haven
And praying sssteven SA do not suck
He'll get more -Sync CD like HS and Adr
and PT on entry
to fill both Sprint/Field role
cyan tusk
He’s getting weird world and another sync multiplier 
storm vector
maybe -2 sync CD on his first TM
storm vector
brainpower might be expecting too much
storm vector
thats too much even for SA lol
night sleet
Since he have ming games in grid
cyan tusk
I mean now that we have dexio with a broken ST nuke
rough forum
My secret hope is another rising tide
Power play instead just because yes
night sleet
For him power play its not the best for dc
Would need alot effort get -18
On all 3 off them
rough forum
Sir this isn't #1255888121648644197
night sleet
Most wat he get is reduce sync maybe zone on sync or and extention
For hse steven dont need it too
Low all -18 in hse 1000 str
Would need use jacq whit him
Steven mind games low -1 and disarm need flinch
Wat just him may never get all -18
cyan tusk
We will see, it’s just one week left kinda
night sleet
Yeap 27/28 we should get it
oak fulcrum
27th or 30th, or if they want to beat the holidays for pushing the update, maybe even an early datamine
sullen pier
January datamine had been quite early in past years, except 2022 when it arrived on 26th which is the average
I'm expecting it to be the same this year
gleaming raven
Datamine on the 42nd 
cyan tusk
I mean I usually remember we get January datamine kinda early like 23
But having Rock special cs it could come later
oak fulcrum
The Christmas holiday being a Wednesday is extremely inconvenient for a normally timed datamine no?
gleaming raven
The Christmas holiday being a Wednesday is extremely inconvenient for a normally...
A little
Could still reasonably be the 26th though
sullen pier
Or even 31st
Everyone should suffer from no country being sacrificed to reveal the datamine date this month
rough forum
27th or 30th, or if they want to beat the holidays for pushing the update, maybe...
We had 21/23/23/26/26 iirc
So i'm expecting a 26th at latest
23rd is just as likely imo
hasty juniper
Tbh 27th is the usual date and people are back at work for then so
jagged eagle
25th isnt holiday in japan and some takes their days off from 28th Dec to 5th Jan, so yeah before that
paper mist
the 28th is a weekend so it wouldn’t be then regardless
acoustic quarry
@haughty haven @outer whale @mortal timber Hello Great Masters /bow
Any suggestion for mix pick ? I was thinking Elio or Selene since we don't have parameter yet they look safe pick no matter what
Don't really wanna delay the mix pick thats also why i don't wait parameters
cyan tusk
I feel offended in not being tagged
cyan tusk
Bc we are both Italian
outer whale
Omg the mario bros in the server
cyan tusk
🍕🍝
Btw support are always the best pick which is why my advice would go between elio and grusha tbh
BUT paulo is a really rare pick since he has had no rerun yet
outer whale
<@678792485534957583> <@184053126754467840> <@290269550145044480> Hello Great Ma...
Wait until we get the information for next month's high score. We can't really recommend anyone just yet.
acoustic quarry
Btw support are always the best pick which is why my advice would go between eli...
I feel Grusha will be key if they're a round turn around the use of her B Moove but Elio should be able to fit anywhere 🤔
acoustic quarry
Wait until we get the information for next month's high score. We can't really r...
Yeah but i don't " wish " to delay mix pick pity , to start the next one if that make sens
haughty haven
Rn i’ll say Grusha is better than Elio
outer whale
Elio and selene will have a rerun this upcoming week too
night sleet
Grusha is better
More help you in hse
Grusha silver both are good picks but offensive you have good units sup grusha is best choise
acoustic quarry
Grusha silver both are good picks but offensive you have good units sup grusha i...
Yeah offensive wise i'm not " really " scared indeed, my only hope is that there no " special rock " round
Thx all for answer, Grusha it shall be 
cyan tusk
We have more ice zone users than rock zone users if I had to go blind I’d pick grusha mainly bc he raises team def and spdef
Elio is selfish
glossy ravine
The support pool for this HS is bottlenecked as hell lol
grusha/elio/v lorelei/melony
and then v.bruno
Bea you need some second support because she has no defensive buffs
glossy ravine
he's just a hilbert on crack
and gives +6 def aoe in one turn
with screech and regen
also eats your queue cause reactive passive
a lot bettre than your average support but not something people will go out of their way to get
haughty haven
But yeah, the supports we have this time aren’t great
why Elio only buffs himself
glossy ravine
wouldn't be surprised if Bruno is a mandated support anyhow
the biggest issue is very few of our existing supports buff distributed spdef
melony, BP Olivia, dana and Grusha only
Roxanne is lol kek
she'll just fold over t3
lol
worldly parcelBOT
glossy ravine
what an absolute shitshow
lol
No Silvers, no Selene, no Paulo
N isn't invested either
glossy ravine
i reckon we'll also get flinch parameter or something
haughty haven
Still way better than like 90%
glossy ravine
you have an outright better version of my stuff kek
haughty haven
No sprint 🤝
gleaming raven
not sure how good this is in practice but it feels at least decent
missing supports for sure though
haughty haven
Yeah, not having Grusha already a disadvantage
glossy ravine
your lack of suppports will punish you a bit and force some cheaper comps, but Paulo is there
gleaming raven
i'd expecting the HSE banner to have Grusha and Paulo at least
glossy ravine
so you have some usable options
on the flip side you also have all the important carries except NC Red
gleaming raven
not sure who the third would be, if there is one, but that might not be the worst idea to go for if it's not like, SS Dia
glossy ravine
I have 3/5 20/20 Regirock
that I can play with
so that's also very funny
I can also 2/5 my Dana, I guess
haughty haven
Man, idk if i should 3/5 Silver
gleaming raven
i might 3/5 Dana for this if I really feel like it as well, I have the Super BP tickets to do that
haughty haven
I know he is great but i want to see 10/5 Selene first
gleaming raven
yeah, 10/5 Selene is something i'm interested in
if that's decent and not something like Entry Circle i'm probably considering it
glossy ravine
Maybe she'll finally get what she wants
kek
sync burst and further extension would be nice
but they might jsut give her one round of zone or something
gleaming raven
i don't expect further extension, nice as that'd be
sync burst feels likely, though considering they didn't go for that with Elio i'm not gonna say it's guaranteed
glossy ravine
Elio already got a third round
and has MPR to play with
I expect the non MPR units to get it
gleaming raven
im glad Elio at least has MPRs for Circle and TM but like, his kit looks like it's begging for Sync Burst
glossy ravine
his kit looks like it's begging for distributed defenses more so
gleaming raven
that too
glossy ravine
relying solely on DR and circle to stomach syncs is not a good idea
especially in HS
where he probably just slots with either Paulo or Diantha
to compensate
haughty haven
Rn i plan to use Elio + Selene + BP Olivia
Just bc hell Elio cant buff Def/SpDef for teammate
gleaming raven
idk who im planning for my third with Elio/Selene, but Elio/Selene feels pretty set
haughty haven
I just dont think Selene can survive Sync at 1000 Str without any Def/SpDef buff
gleaming raven
maybe Roxanne
haughty haven
I think about BP Olivia bc Alola
Just boost more for Circle
Also buffs Def/SpDef for Selene too
gleaming raven
that's fair
gleaming raven
im more thinking "i probably will want Olivia as a main tank on another stage"
gleaming raven
and Roxanne does help with Gauge somewhat
haughty haven
Yeah
gleaming raven
her own speed might be dogshit but she does have the speed buffs
gleaming raven
mood
haughty haven
Also idk if i should do this again #1128052735967764621 message
I’m scared my poor English will mess everyone
gleaming raven
it looks pretty handy to me at least, idk if i was making use of it during the HSE or not
tiny ore
am i the only one w/ 3/5 dana
acoustic quarry
But yeah, the supports we have this time aren’t great
i swear v bruno will be looked at fdiffrently after this hse
i always loved to play him
also v loreilei too
idk i just found her amazing
tiny ore
could be worse
weirdly enough im probably better here than the first hse where i had to use marlon
cyan tusk
My 2 cents is for elio / grusha / Melony /V Lorelei / V Bruno
But I can def see Elio paired with bp Olivia lol
Also, up to the theme skills, Lodge arven can def have a lot of play
Team def, team sync regen, overwhelm 9 via grid
tiny ore
the problem is that only regirock has good reliable healimg
tiny ore
the rest are relying on regen so limited burst heal. And then theres dana who gets 1 heal
Only regirock from my roster btw
cyan tusk
P Bea - Candice - Whatever ice striker can clear something lol
tiny ore
I skip a ton of banners
cyan tusk
Fun things will come up in a couple of days
night sleet
Heal will be not important since we have alot 10/5 units
tiny ore
lol 10/5
night sleet
So they on 1000 str will make big gap
tiny ore
Most of us aint whales
tiny ore
the top 20 maybe but most of the playerbase aint got them
night sleet
Its they in game
So if some one have them no need think about heal
Since ice rock have bad heal
tiny ore
...not sure how relevant that is for most of us
night sleet
I don’t like it to
If it was like befor you get copy from scout i would say ok
But not this way
night sleet
Just i saw last hse diffrence when have 10/5
When on steel stage poppy hamer kill 1 shoot sides
tiny ore
treating it like a d!ck measuring contest is a bad idea
night sleet
2 hit mid
Yeap bad idea since when we have all poke 10/5 make this events big gap if have them vs not
Befor you can get top20 even use f2p units
Now forget about it
mortal timber
I just saw the ping hahaha @acoustic quarry
I agree with bicio btw, more than ever this time supports will make the difference
And Paulo can be also a good surprise pick if you dare to feel creative
Sadly SAwakening will be another huge issue but details, important is you are stacked with supps imo
tiny ore
gonna get nemona to 3/5 on tuesday just in case
probably wont need her but it cant hurt to have her
cyan tusk
Well she has zone def debuff and flinch at 3/5, not bad at all
I’m with either her or bp Olivia to use with usum duo
tiny ore
my issue w/ her is relying on accelrock mpr
worse than kukui
im gonna be using up any luck i have on nc units
hollow prism
WHAT THE FUCK
If i’m reading this correct it means 2 of your 3 units take ZERO DAMAGE FROM A SYNC MOVE
I REPEAT:
WTF
neon prawn
time to see how fucked this hse is
neon prawn
If i’m reading this correct it means 2 of your 3 units take ZERO DAMAGE FROM A S...
we will probably get giga tank pairs
storm vector
sync moves are finally able to miss
it'll probably be a single use TM with no MPR but still
neon prawn
1000 str just got a lot more possible
topaz sleet
sullen pier
No. 175 Paulo & Lycanroc (Male♂️) - Dusk Form
(🌅🌟) Superawakened Passive: Conquering Evil
Powers up the moves of all allied sync pairs during a sandstorm. Turns the field of play’s zone into a Rock Zone after using the user’s Max Rockfall. (A Rock Zone powers up Rock-type attacks.) Increases the user’s Physical Moves ↑ Next effect by one rank when it uses a move that has the Quick Move effect tag.
Paulo's SA is interesting
hollow prism
No. 175 Paulo & Lycanroc (Male♂️) - Dusk Form
(🌅🌟) Superawakened Passive: Conq...
He needed a second sandstorm tbh
Or better tanking capability or a Flinch
hollow prism
Oh also Poppy once again being reliant on Steel zone but Dena being allergic to the move STEEL ZONE
🤡
JUST GIVE HER ZONE IN THE FORM OF A MOVE
HOLY SHIT IT’S NOT HARD
YOU DID IT JUST FINE FOR TWO YEARS
storm vector
infinite sand?
neon prawn
5/5 mfs
neon prawn
wait....no new ice or rock units?
cyan tusk
I’m crying
cyan tusk
Selene got entry circle, just what I always wanted
And sync burst lol
gleaming raven
Yeah, sync burst is nice
About the only part of the passive i would care about at all but its something
storm vector
tech and mc/gym leader
i don't like brock forcing a status user, really limits my options personally
either i have to go for freezes or para with ghetsis 💀
haughty haven
Any stage info yet ?
sterile frost
I guess completely wrong...
haughty haven
Move-Weaknesses-passive thing
gleaming raven
I was almost right with my HSE banner guess at least
Classic Blue over SS Diantha but 
night sleet
Brock need pierce blowe units
Like n and red
Status is freeze wat not last long flinch too . Do we have trap or confusion units? For it?
neon prawn
ss gio is the new strongest hs unit by far
sullen pier
You can't bypass battle rules with piercing blows
Brock's rule is very restricting given the featured types' nature
gleaming raven
Yeah
hollow prism
SSGio is so far ahead of every other unit in the game for HS that it’s not even funny 💀
sullen pier
I assume Alt Selene is the intended unit for his stage (i haven't seen the detail)
hollow prism
Imagine just bypassing a sync that was previously unbreachable
Like wtffffff
Even if he dies
That’s SO DUMB
haughty haven
I assume Alt Selene is the intended unit for his stage (i haven't seen the detai...
We dont have detail yet
sullen pier
Hence i said assume
storm vector
he actually has MPR2 on that TM 💀
night sleet
Then how we deal damage vs brock then? If he need status or inference
storm vector
but if he's the only one left it doesn't matter
haughty haven
Anyway, maybe i should write first so i can update later
storm vector
so in practice you only get to play with one extra sync
because your teammates would be dead
sullen pier
Then how we deal damage vs brock then? If he need status or inference
By inflicting status and interferece...?
night sleet
Yed but they will get immune for freeze insta same flinch
A selene toxic
Ok got it now
Yes she is for brock then
cyan tusk
Selene has the passive to poison
But also variety Hilbert has toxic
(Don’t remember if rebuff shuts down it too but I’d say no)
haughty haven
Raw stage info
Bonus:
- Time Trial, More Stats Increase, More Attacks
- Tech, MC/Gym Leader
Weakness order: Mid - Left - Right
Brock: Need Status or Interference
- Weakness: Grass-Bug-Water
- Sync: Water Special
- Need buff SpDef (Brainteaser and Smary-Pants). Brock has Mind Game 9 and Befuddle
- Mid: Special Move with only Water Move
- He uses Surf after Sync
- Side: Special Move
- Dangerous Move:
Mid: Hydro Pump, Surf (1 use)
Right: Psychic, Heat Wave (1 use) also is a move use after mid down
Left: Psychic, Blizzard (1 use) also is a move use after mid down
Roxanne: No Rule
- Weakness: Ice-Steel-Rock
- Sync: Rock Physical
- Need debuff Speed (Ramming Speed and Speedster’s Sync 3). Roxanne has Speedy Entry 1, 1 X Speed All.
- Weak against Rock Field ( Rock DF Resistance 7)
- Mid: Mix Move with only Rock Move
- Side : Mix Move
- Dangerous Move:
Mid: Stone Edge (High Crit)
Right: Hyper Beam after mid down
Left: Rock Slide after mid down
Grant: -2 Gauge
- Weakness: Dragon-Ice-Fighting
- Sync: Dragon Physical
- Need buff Def (Insult to Injury and Relentless). Grant has Enfeeble 1 and Sync Defense ↓ All 2.
- Mid and Side: Physical Move
- Dangerous Move:
Mid: Brutal Swing, High Horsepower
Right: Liquidation (50% Debuff Def), EQ (1 use) also a move use after mid down
Left: Heat Wave after mid down
Grusha: No Rule
- Weakness: Rock-Fire-Steel
- Sync: Ice Physical
- Aoe Endure, Team Pinpoint Entry 1
- Weak against Freeze (Lesson Freeze 7)
- Mid and Left: Physical Move
- Right: Mix Move
- Dangerous Move:
Mid: EQ (3 use), Liquidation (50% debuff Def)
Right: Icicle Crash, EQ (1 use), Blizzard after mid down
Left: Triple Axel, EQ after mid down
Melony: Hate Special
- Weakness: Fighting-Grass-Rock
- Sync: Ice Special
- Shut Down rain (Downpour, Flood Alert 5, Shower Power 5, Raging Rain 5). This stage uses a lot of water move.
- Weak against flinch (Lessen Flinch 7)
- Mid: Special Move
- Side: Mix Move
- Dangerous Move:
Mid: Hydro Pump, Waterfall, Icy Wind (3 use)used
Right: Waterfall, Surf after mid down
Left: Liquidation (50% debuff Def), Icy Wind (1 use), EQ after mid down
gleaming raven
It shouldn't
sullen pier
Brock may use Onix so Ice weakness is a possibility for Hilbert
gleaming raven
Could work with SS N as well, since he has para
sullen pier
And Ghetsis
cyan tusk
Lodge Steven has acid
Gordie can burn
Ghetsis, SS N can para
wooden sparrow
is anyone else realizing the very awkward situation of using rock units on rock stages could be risky cause rock zone could power them up, but then like half of the good ice units are weak to rock
or is it just me
this includes nc red fshauntal and sina lol
haughty haven
Rn i dont know about their Sync yet
But yeah, Brock is a Rock stage so high chance he’ll use Rock Sync
wooden sparrow
alt elio is about to separate for alt selene for this lmao
sullen pier
He might get Ground sync, the same to Roxanne with Steel
storm vector
interesting
sullen pier
But then Steel shreds some Ice types lmao
haughty haven
Ground is kinda fk for Selene tho
wooden sparrow
He might get Ground sync, the same to Roxanne with Steel
I agree with this but brock is like the ultimate "i use rock types" trainer so it'd be weird for him to have a ground sync
haughty haven
She is Ground weak
storm vector
yeah
storm vector
last HSE all of the sync moves were on their type iirc?
cyan tusk
is anyone else realizing the very awkward situation of using rock units on rock ...
Welcome to dark and ghost hse dilemma
wooden sparrow
Welcome to dark and ghost hse dilemma <:RoxanneThis:661024696346607635>
true lmao i never noticed
haughty haven
Dark/Ghost is weird immo
storm vector
dena actually making type weaknesses matter for us players again
haughty haven
It always a problem in HSE
cyan tusk
Now that they shafted my Steven I don’t know what to do with SA
Probably just 6/5 him for the stats and that’s it
haughty haven
Like SC Jasmine would be amazing against Jasmine if not bc of Electric Weakness
cyan tusk
Another problem in hse is the field ex role lmao
The only content where it’s not easy to manipulate
hollow prism
is anyone else realizing the very awkward situation of using rock units on rock ...
Welcome to HS where WTZ is shit 💀
haughty haven
At least the rule isn’t that bad
hollow prism
I remember realizing that Field EXR on my Anni May very well might have LOWERED my score just bc of that zone
Also if you use Red’s Hail tile in this HSE you’re psychotic
cyan tusk
I remember delaying a sync turn on marnie in electric hse so that she did not sync under terrain at 1K lol
hollow prism
💀
hollow prism
Bro wasn’t TRed absolute trash to use well in ElecHS
neon prawn
how fucked is this hse so far
hollow prism
Because TRed is actual garbage without ET
wooden sparrow
same hopefully I can contribute somewhat to this hse
haughty haven
how fucked is this hse so far
Dont know yet
No info about stage other than rule so eh