Oh almost forgot
#High Score
paper mist
Also if any fight has Electric moves, SCJasmine is weak to Elec.
haughty haven
Also if any fight has Electric moves, SCJasmine is weak to Elec.
Yes, but very weak
Like Thunder Fang (Physical tho)
paper mist
She’s specially defensive so that’s bad
paper mist
Oh right Discharge is on Jasmine
haughty haven
Ok
paper mist
A bit funny since her SpDef buffs and bulk would have been good there
paper mist
Idk if Rose awakening is that much of a game changer, his is among the worse ones
hollow prism
A 10% boost in stats is ok but 6/5 isn’t the worst
haughty haven
Challenge Hala (Hard)
Special Rule: Five stats of allied strike sync pairs significantly reduced
Detail: Allied strike sync pairs’ Attack, Defense, Sp. Atk, Sp. Def, and Speed are lowered by 80%.
Challenge Bea (Hard)
No special rules.
Challenge Poppy (Hard)
No special rules.
Challenge Rose (Hard)
Special Rule: Ally special attack damage significantly reduced
Detail: Reduces the damage allies deal with special attack moves by 80%.
Challenge Jasmine (Hard)
Special Rule: Five stats of allied tech sync pairs significantly reduced
Detail: Allied tech sync pairs’ Attack, Defense, Sp. Atk, Sp. Def, and Speed are lowered by 80%.
hollow prism
And 10/5 for the passives isn’t worth for the passives you get
Like Rose’s passive is balls
paper mist
**Challenge Hala (Hard)**
Special Rule: Five stats of allied strike sync pairs s...
STRKE NERF???
Ok nvm about Poppy there
That’s 100% a Riley stage because he’s a Sprint
And nvm about Diantha against Rose she gets nerfed. Jasmine. Lol. Rose isn’t a Tech so.
hollow prism
No physical dmg nerf huh
paper mist
Surprised there isn’t a stage for Special moves
Rip Lear carry for it
Oh wait Lear is also good for Hala because debuff Immunity and Sprint. Lol.
haughty haven
Raw stage info
Weakness order: Mid - Left - Right
Hala: Anti Striker
- Weakness: Steel - Fighting - Dragon
- Debuff your speed (Trip Up 9) and benefits from it (Hunter’s Instinct and Slo-pponent Sync 3)
- Only use Physical
- Sync: Physical Ice
Bea: No Rule
- Weakness: Fairy - Fighting - Psychic
- Hahahahahahaha Evasion (X Evasion All and Agile Entry 1)
- Mid and Left : Physical, Right: Special
- Bea has unlimited use High Jump Kick
- Sync: Physical Fighting
Poppy: No Rule
- Weakness: Electric - Fire - Ghost
- Mid - Left: Mix, Right: Special
- Weak against para
- Sync: Physical Flying
Rose: Anti Special
- Weakness: Fighting - Fire - Ground
- Debuff his Def (Tough Cookie and Tough Sync 3), he also weaks against Def debuff (Trained Body 3)
- Mid: Mix, Right: Physical, Left: Special
- Sync: Physical Steel
Jasmine: Anti Tech
- Weakness: Ground - Water - Ground
- Debuff your team accurate (Mirror Shot and Bedazzle 1) and benefits from it (Smokescreen Sync 2)
- Mid: Special, Side: mix
- Sync: Special Steel
Dangerous move
Hala
- Mid: EQ after Sync
- Right: Clanging Scales when mid down
- Left: EQ when mid down
Bea
- Mid: High Jump Kick
- Right: Hyper Voice, Surf after mid down
- Left: Meteor Assault after mid down
Poppy
- Mid: Swift, Hurricane
- Side: Rock Slide after mid down
Rose
- Mid: Stone Edge
- Right: Giga Impact after mid down
- Left: Snarl after mid down (hello Snarl my beloved)
Jasmine
- Mid: Discharge (3 uses)
- Right: Rock Slide after mid down
- Left: Surf after mid down
outer whale
**Challenge Hala (Hard)**
Special Rule: Five stats of allied strike sync pairs s...
Can you ping me this? Will be working on this later.
haughty haven
I remember helper can pin this right ?
haughty haven
Ty gà con
outer whale
OH. 
sullen pier
yeah we can pin stuff in every thread under #1009553004350931054
hollow prism
LLLLLLLLLL
outer whale
Good to know! 
haughty haven
She has Standfast 9
hollow prism
Also this entire HS is just Evasion HS wtf is this
paper mist
Also this entire HS is just Evasion HS wtf is this
No Argenta and Rose? Suffer
paper mist
Rose can’t miss
outer whale
Rose cannot miss
paper mist
Jasmine is for Rose
hollow prism
🤡
paper mist
Like 100%
AoE, 2 Ground weak enemies, can’t miss, isn’t a Tech.
Face it bud. Rose is good here.
outer whale
You use Rose for Jasmine so you don't miss, I use Special Costume Guzma on Jasmine for 10 PMUN.
We are not the same.
paper mist
I might not even use Guzma
Once Eri comes out I’ll have every pair for this HS. Though not at 3/5 minimum for several
paper mist
yeah
Riley/Lear for Hala, Argenta and Poppy/Gloria for Bea, vThorton for Poppy, Rei for Rose, Rose for Jasmine
glossy ravine
Rose also has sure hit so lol accuracy drops
it's mainly the fact that it's special that's interesting
also is jasmine using magnemite/ton/zone rather than steelix
looks like it
glossy ravine
it also seems like jasmine is the only special stage
while specially defensive supports are very rare on these types
physical ones are everywhere
probably just use Cynthia against Jasmine or something
soft lodge
SC jasmine being elec weak is very tragic for that stage
paper mist
very
the only ones that can raise party SpDef are Summer Hilda, SCShauna (super RNG), sTate (super RNG), SCJasmine (elec weak), SSAC, Eri, and Lodge Jasmine (and only +3, she doesn't have MPR).
Bruno, base Thorton, Wikstrom, Molayne, SCDiantha, Colress, Riley, and Registeel (despite being a Support) all raise only their own.
paper mist
it also seems like jasmine is the only special stage
all stages are mixed
jasmine side has rock slide
paper mist
so, yes its mixed
haughty haven
HSE last 2 weeks: 6-20
night sleet
Yeap since dc ranked is 21
paper mist
they usually only last 2 weeks
red owl
Yeap since dc ranked is 21
There's another ranked dc this month?
acoustic quarry
The fights looks really rough dayum 😮
glossy ravine
yeah but isn't Jasmine the only special syncer
mixed normal attacks is fine, but not a lot of special tanks
cyan tusk
Hala has trip up so basically just need the tank to have haste/impervious
For me Hala is calling for rei
paper mist
Hala is steel-weak
cyan tusk
Poppy can be SSAcynthia
Bea will enjoy NcBianca a lot
Rose mmmh.. needs a nuker for mid
Jasmine will enjoy SSLear a lot
cyan tusk
Hala is steel-weak
Really? Nice
paper mist
with being anti-striker with debuffs that says SSLear to me since he's Sprint, Steel and immune to debuffs. Riley too since there's also a Fighting-weak side and he buffs party Speed every attack and is Sprint.
cyan tusk
SSLear can score 1K offtype if fully invested
paper mist
Rose being Fighting-weak and needing Def debuffs says Rei to me the most
paper mist
Rei + NCBianca + who to tank?
maybe SHilda since she can turn the buffs into debuffs and then Rei can keep them at negative
cyan tusk
NcBianca should go to Bea
paper mist
or uh. SSAC ofc
cyan tusk
She’s the only reliable eva buffer
cyan tusk
So it’s time trial
Stat increase
Stat decrease
Flinching
Gym leader or seasonal outfit
royal tiger
alright this should do it. 200k here we go.
unless they increased the minimum points for all the rewards again 😮
paper mist
alright this should do it. 200k here we go.
be careful with Lillie against Hala, she's ground-weak
paper mist
yeah he uses EQ post-sync unless you Flinch it
royal tiger
pal bea then for big nukes then .-.;
paper mist
and one of the sides has EQ too
royal tiger
err Pal Marnie rather
outer whale
Already off to a good start.
mortal timber
Poopy lol
night sleet
Just saw it
Do you now stage is 3 vs 3 3 vs 1 and rulles?
royal tiger
Already off to a good start.
poppy isn't really that... threathening tbh... its hala and bea that's going to be tough. 😮
outer whale
full info
neon prawn
Hala for me probably
outer whale
Hala would probably be the answer
mortal timber
Are you gonna leave poopy on purpose linkable hahaha
paper mist
Hala for sure
outer whale
Yesn't
neon prawn
gonna grab my 1000 str clear and get enough for 200k on the rest
is sc diantha our only special fighting
outer whale
the attack type is not done yet
neon prawn
can anyone send the battle details
paper mist
is sc diantha our only special fighting
SSAC 
paper mist
I think Jasmine has the only Special sync
magic tulip
yeah rose has his normal sync
paper mist
she does
outer whale
Poopy seems to be doing special only damage, but is her sync physical?
haughty haven
Hala: Phy
paper mist
yes
paper mist
physical sync, mixed moves
neon prawn
Oo
haughty haven
Bea: Phy
outer whale
Ok, fixed
haughty haven
Poppy: Phy
paper mist
she has flying impact but also hurricane, drill peck and swift
outer whale
yeesh, drill peck is rough
haughty haven
Rose: Phy
paper mist
plus pinpoint entry 2 for that hurricane
royal tiger
man
haughty haven
Jasmine: Spec
royal tiger
guess i have to EXR SS Lear then :3
magic tulip
do we know how moves like psystrike/sacred sword interact with the params
neon prawn
built for dc diantha huh
paper mist
royal tiger
anyways gn guys
neon prawn
ss Lear stage?
paper mist
yes
royal tiger
hala
paper mist
Lear is immune to debuffs and makes allies immune under Circle, isn't a Strike, and is Steel
outer whale
can you provide the link to the pastebin?
paper mist
yeah
outer whale
i need to see the exact moves to see what's worth noting
paper mist
magic tulip
ah wait rose requiring def debuffs but nerfing physical damage is actually horrible for me
neon prawn
SS Lear is gonna be very important it seems, nice
paper mist
ah wait rose requiring def debuffs but nerfing physical damage is actually horri...
you're meant to use Rei I believe
outer whale
OOOH RULES ARE ACTUALLY HYPE
magic tulip
i dont have sc diantha 
neon prawn
ah wait rose requiring def debuffs but nerfing physical damage is actually horri...
no sc diantha?(when was her last rerun)
paper mist
Rose is Fighting weak and Rei debuffs Defense
neon prawn
Oo
magic tulip
you're meant to use Rei I believe
wrong move category
paper mist
Time Trial is Hype?
neon prawn
OOOH RULES ARE ACTUALLY HYPE
what are the point boosts?
outer whale
STAT BUFF AND STAT DEBUFFS ARE
magic tulip
gym leader and seasonal outfit
neon prawn
TIME TRIAL | STAT BUFF | STAT DEBUFFS
aside from time trial, good
sillie will probably be important?
paper mist
wrong move category
Special moves are nerfed, not Physical
neon prawn
gym leader and seasonal outfit
Oo
outer whale
Bruh
Flinch and Gym leader/Seasonal are the bonus points
paper mist
magic tulip
Special moves are nerfed, not Physical
oh wait what
paper mist
SCDiantha is bad there
acoustic quarry
Flinch ? 😮
magic tulip
this thread is my new home for the next few weeks
neon prawn
Sillie time
paper mist
Flinch makes sense because of Iron Head being common
neon prawn
I think I throw sillie at jasmine?
neon prawn
does jasmine have anything from accuracy down other than smokescreen sync?
magic tulip
bedazzle 1?
paper mist
Seasonal is for uh. SHilda, Lilliegaleo, sTate and PalMarnie 
neon prawn
any multipliers?
paper mist
thats it
outer whale
this should help
neon prawn
special attack debuffs, stat drop immune not a tech, seasonal
paper mist
magic tulip
Seasonal is for uh. SHilda, Lilliegaleo, sTate and PalMarnie <:SophoKEK:68191654...
shilda and pmarnie my behateds
paper mist
these are the only pairs who get theme bonuses
neon prawn
this should help
rose is special-80% apparently
neon prawn
pls don't tell me we have to use raihan
paper mist
who's gonna use Korrina
outer whale
rose is special-80% apparently
thank you!
neon prawn
Rei is intended for rose then
paper mist
Hala: SSLear
Bea: ?
Poppy: vThorton?
Rose: Rei
Jasmine: Rose
magic tulip
im so smart
neon prawn
Hala: SSLear
Bea: ?
Poppy: vThorton?
Rose: Rei
Jasmine: Rose
what's bea weak to
she's probably state?
cuz para
paper mist
that's Poppy
paper mist
2 opponents are Ground-weak and he's AoE, Rose can't miss so Accuracy debuffs mean nothing, and he's not a Tech
neon prawn
I'd argue slillie is also a big counter
magic tulip
bea is fairy weak
paper mist
oh wait
Hala: SSLear
Bea: Argenta
Poppy: vThorton?
Rose: Rei
Jasmine: Rose
Bea's gimmick is Evasion, and Argenta buffs Accuracy
neon prawn
Hala: SSLear
Bea: Argenta
Poppy: vThorton?
Rose: Rei
Jasmine: Rose
imo s lillie is also a counter to jssmine
*jasmine
paper mist
@outer whale sorry this is the doc with the indepth fights https://pastebin.com/vALuHRxR
neon prawn
not a tech, debuffs special attack, immune to stat drops
paper mist
true
would need speed buffs if you run them both though cause there's no gauges and no speed between them
neon prawn
ASS is broken everywhere ofc
paper mist
but Lillie would be wasted if you use her and Rose together imo
cause her Steel Zone would be wasted since he would be using Ground moves
neon prawn
imo you don't use rose on jasmine
magic tulip
something about poppy and jasmine having their playable mons as sides instead of their own mon is funny
neon prawn
You use a big steel dd and ASS
neon prawn
Hala I feel like SS Lear will wreck with any half decent support
Jasmine is where your sillie will get the highest value imo
outer whale
Hello Darkness my old friend.
magic tulip
does poppy having a ghost weak side mean anything in terms of eri placement
magic tulip
that wasnt directed to anyone in particular but 
magic tulip
im just trying to figure out if i can squeak by without eri if my submas pulls are awful
paper mist
why not skip Submas instead 
outer whale
i know, just haven't gotten to units to start making any analysis yet
neon prawn
Hello Darkness my old friend.
will she spam hjk?
magic tulip
why not skip Submas instead <:GladionSip:1208936502399344650>
bc i like them 
outer whale
so.... POTENTIALLY Cheesable
outer whale
No Piercing Gaze so Possible to do funny evasion strats
yes
it's 25% recoil iirc
like it's very high risk
neon prawn
what steel/fighting have evasion
outer whale
so the question is whether or not you can get a team with evasion/ acc drops
Bea and Jasmine
magic tulip
what steel/fighting have evasion
nc bianca
outer whale
oh wait, you mean units
neon prawn
it's 25% recoil iirc
bea is rng huh
outer whale
NC Bianca will be VERY Funny for Bea
neon prawn
bea is argenta and biaNCa maybe?
paper mist
yeah
neon prawn
Hala is SS Lear + any two half decent supports lol
SS Lear should shred even 1000 tr hala
magic tulip
so if hjk recoil is 50% hp
and she only has standfast 9
would that mean that each hjk miss is 5%?
neon prawn
so if hjk recoil is 50% hp
and she only has standfast 9
would that mean that eac...
isn't it 25% in Poma?
are we gonna kill bea by biaNCa dodging evrything
magic tulip
neon prawn
Oo
magic tulip
are we gonna kill bea by biaNCa dodging evrything
would be funny
neon prawn
would be funny
might be optimal strat tbh
outer whale
Summer Hilda lowkey going hard on Bea
Lower Evasion and her Accuracy
sounds VERY funni
neon prawn
Summer Hilda lowkey going hard on Bea
doesn't bea also have defense buffs
outer whale
crit bypass defense buffs
magic tulip
Summer Hilda lowkey going hard on Bea
can she not do that instead pls
outer whale
???
magic tulip
i dont have her 
magic tulip
neon prawn
crit bypass defense buffs
yes but tipsy turvy turns buffs into debuffs for even more damage
outer whale
oh trueeee
neon prawn
<a:NeneCryFall:1069761940609568790>
3/5 Lear.
magic tulip
curse you summer hilda
neon prawn
shilda counters bea
magic tulip
shaking my fist in the air
neon prawn
are you gonna use rage fist
oak fulcrum
only a maximum of twice
magic tulip
neon prawn
where does eri look good at
outer whale
we don't know yet
I'm still working on dissecting the battles
Poopy wants to be paraed
paper mist
already gonna be missing theme skill bonuses in my starting teams...
neon prawn
sillie covers 1 team at least
outer whale
almost done, adding a new category for everyone
paper mist
is that an awakening category
neon prawn
what will ya all use with ss Lear on hala
paper mist
when does eri release
outer whale
NEW ADDITION: Notable attack types added. The bigger the text, the more prominent it is.
Hope that helps a bit?
magic tulip
jasmine is also weaker to flinch than usual
why did they make flinch important if everyone has resilience
outer whale
Flinch is still useful for sync farming
outer whale
NEW ADDITION: Notable attack types added. The bigger the text, the more prominen...
@haughty haven anything i'm missing here?
neon prawn
Rei will bully rose
outer whale
ok, think i'm ready to start doing units.
magic tulip
figured
main pulsar
Shocking
wooden swallow
😵💫
main pulsar
Look as I express my shock
main pulsar
sillie covers 1 team at least
I don’t think another unit has had as many nick names as solillie
This is what happens when dena double annis a unit
cyan tusk
She’s calling Arcsteven btw
haughty haven
<@678792485534957583> anything i'm missing here?
Looking good 
cyan tusk
Mmmh… my 2 cents are all about SSLear being useful to get 1K elsewhere than Hala which is steel weak so can get them with other steel units, mmmh
Also which are jasmine’s steel move? Bc Lilie and solgaleo can stay there lowering her spatk
cyan tusk
Mmh, maybe a non ExRole Lilie
Also imma go ScSelene and PalMarnie on Hala so I can use Lear elsewhere
outer whale
I'm reformating the doc to be a bit more transparent. hopefully this is looking good?
cyan tusk
Oh arc Steven, my beloved who came home early 
outer whale
idk if it's becoming clutter on Mobile
haughty haven
Also imma go ScSelene and PalMarnie on Hala so I can use Lear elsewhere
Yeah, Pal Marnie is really good against Hala
haughty haven
Mostly bc he only has Physical Move
haughty haven
Until he die before side mon
cyan tusk
You can just give up aggravation bc Selene is flinching tbh
Or steel wish
I mean Selene has to run this anyway so
cyan tusk
Or another way could be this
But, even if I drop defense crush 9 from Selene, there’s nothing worth to pick with the remaining energy, just a +25 node lol
haughty haven
Let me check real quick
Hala has 1 X Def All
So Marnie cant fully debuff Def
So you still need DC9 from Selene
cyan tusk
Or if I put Argenta as a support gridding her with dc 9 👀
outer whale
So I did another change for you all.
Going to color code some abilities to pinpoint specific criterias that meet Bonus Points.
outer whale
Gonna take a break, but 3 units have been analyzed so far.
signal needle
Thx linka
hasty zenith
solgaleo lillie is seasonal 
paper mist
hey Link, I noticed you listed Special Costumes for pairs, but that's not a bonus for this. Special Costume is a separate theme skill from Seasonal.
outer whale
hey Link, I noticed you listed Special Costumes for pairs, but that's not a bonu...
notice the color coding.
I state Special costume as for others to not be confused with it being seasonal.
paper mist
I see
outer whale
Idk if it's me, but when I saw SC Jasmine, I thought she was also gym leader. but she wasn't so I want to make sure that confusion doesn't happen
paper mist
yeah its dumb when they have some theme skills and not others. some cynthia and steven alts dont have Champion
signal needle
This feels good, any comments?
The aqua means i might EX rose cus hes the only non ex
paper mist
for 200k or
outer whale
Who's debuffing Defense on Rose?
outer whale
I will say, I am worried on Hala's team
paper mist
SCJasmine on Poppy is a little risky because she has no Defensive buffing and her Def is worse than SpDef and Poppy has a physical sync and mixed moves
signal needle
SCJasmine on Poppy is a little risky because she has no Defensive buffing and he...
Actually ye, what if i swapped Summer Tate and Anni Lillie?
signal needle
To debuff Poppy attack
paper mist
~~riley can debuff defense??~~
Iron Tail with On A Roll
outer whale
Summer Tate and Alolan Grimsley are weak to ground...... and well.... LOL EQ moment. @signal needle
signal needle
Summer Tate and Alolan Grimsley are weak to ground...... and well.... LOL EQ mom...
F
paper mist
I think they're hoping Steven will help them power thru it
signal needle
ANNI LILLIE WEAK TO GROUND TOO?
paper mist
is only On A Roll 1 though
on a 75% accuracy move
I loved having it miss multiple times in a row in BR last week 
he does get Pinpoint Entry 1 but its only 1
magic tulip
steel types being weak to both ground and fighting is 
especially for this hse
neon prawn
why is sc lillie only B- on jasmine?
paper mist
yeh I'm confused why her score is lower there than the other 2 Bs
steel zone can be worked around, but she has SpAtk debuffs and is immune to the accuracy drops
neon prawn
I get D on hala cuz eq(even tho I think it should be b- cuz she does counter some gimmicks and is on type)
why is Lear only A on hala btw
paper mist
but I'll try and save anything for when Link's done with the main parts of the doc
signal needle
I guess i will resort to using Thorton on Vs Hala instead of Vs Poppy then
paper mist
you're not using sslear anywhere, use him on hala
signal needle
Oh, BP Rose
signal needle
you're not using sslear anywhere, use him on hala
I dont hv him and sc selene
neon prawn
Anni Lillie is lower on Jasmine because Steel Zone on a Steel Sync
doesn't she counter the other stuff well? plus you can steel zone sync with sillie after jasmine sync
paper mist
use the tracker to show what pairs you have
outer whale
doesn't she counter the other stuff well? plus you can steel zone sync with sill...
you waste DPS with no B move
signal needle
Ok honestly Arc Steven is a mismatch with V Thorton so i am keeping V Thorton against Poppy
paper mist
Steel Zone from B Move will run out before Jasmine's first sync
neon prawn
yeh
paper mist
and you can just sync with a Support for 1st or someone else at 2nd sync
neon prawn
it's not extended
paper mist
only sync zone is extended
outer whale
I still feel as though it's risky imo
like, that one caveat is the only reason she's B-
paper mist
maybe the debuffs can balance out the zone useable to be just B
neon prawn
I get doccing points for risk but B- is a bit much
outer whale
the debuffs do help yea.....
neon prawn
B move zone is 50 seconds and you will be spamming recently long anim moves
she also is immune to the accuracy gimmick
and special attack dropping is big + seasonal boost is big
paper mist
seasonal boost applies to all fights tho, not just jasmine
paper mist
I pointed that out like a minute ago lol
outer whale
she does, but you have to use her B move for it every other turn
which is what I'm worried about since i'm not too sure if zone will last till Jasmine sync or not
paper mist
it won't unless you use it late for some reason
outer whale
I mean, realistically, you'd want to do TM/Sunsteel/B Move
but that already gives Jasmine 3 CD
paper mist
I use her a lot in BR due to role combo and it always runs out before sync for me
neon prawn
can't you flinch for 1 more turn? she also has long anims
paper mist
yeah sunsteel has a long animation, b move longer
outer whale
SLillie specifically can't flinch, this is specifically about her kit in a vaccuum
neon prawn
Still sillie should be at least A on jasmine imo
outer whale
nah, A would be too High. the impervious, and Spatk drops already has her at B+, but the turn order and zone is still questionable for me.
neon prawn
she's immune to a gimmick, drops the main attacking stat and her wtz isn't too bad
paper mist
Link do you not use her?
outer whale
I use her in Battle Rally.
neon prawn
have you seen her recent performances btw
outer whale
as in last month, or specifically when she released?
neon prawn
have you seen her recent performances btw
probably not the best comparison tho cuz she gets 2 broken partners but still
outer whale
I'm using SLillie with Clavell and Greta
neon prawn
as in last month, or specifically when she released?
since when she released
outer whale
yes, I've seen her performance, but i'm also seeing her paired with either Arc Steven, SS Lear, or Both.
so it makes me question whether or not they are carrying her or not
for now, I'll put an * on the ranking since I want to have more inputs on it
neon prawn
if sillie zone ends up not being there when Jasmine syncs when the hse releases will sillie rise
outer whale
yes
neon prawn
Ah that I am fine with
outer whale
but if it's dependent on team formation, it will be B+
neon prawn
why is Lear only A on hala btw
outer whale
Keep in mind, he was the latest unit i just did, so I haven't completely finished him yet
@neon prawn i tend to do initial rankings then secondary rankings after i look more closely at the kit.
paper mist
plus with feedback from others later on
outer whale
I am only human at the end of the day doing like 30+ units in one day so 
paper mist
best to wait for link to write it all out before giving any more critiques
outer whale
don't get me wrong, I really do appreciate the feedback, but I want to be critical on the unit
paper mist
anyway Rose S+ across the board
soft lodge
feeling good about my roster for this one, any particular investments I should keep in mind if I want to try for top 100? besides the obvious 3/5 EXR rei
got a bunch of field candies so might do SC selene and hoping to do 4/5 argenta as well
would feel more confident if I had another support but I assume for top 100 I can make do with this roster
neon prawn
sc selene for sure imo
paper mist
idk if I wanna invest in anyone for this HSE
Awakening makes trying to invest even harder because candies are scarce, or will be
oak fulcrum
feeling good about my roster for this one, any particular investments I should k...
selene but missing both fighting master fairs probably immediately kills that chance
soft lodge
that's my one hesitation with being gung-ho on the candy investments, I don't mind investing in SC selene but if missing 2/3 fighting master fairs is that impactful I prob won't bother
since this is probably an easy top 500 with no further investment
wasn't sure if missing both would be that big of a limitation though so figured I'd get some feedback
outer whale
NC Bianca will handicap Bea massively while SSA Cynthia is a powerful tank with Fighting Zone. You MIGHT be able to squeeze in top 200 with your steel roster, but Missing out on Bianca hurts that. HOWEVER, Eri might be able to make up missing out on SSA Cynthia
oak fulcrum
in the past, top 100 has barely been possible for me missing one key player and having medium-high investment on the rest of the meta pairs, two would be an exponentially larger blow though
paper mist
this is my roster I already know I'm gonna get hampered by lack of copies
outer whale
Daring on that 3/5 Eri already huh?
paper mist
that's the plan, yes
outer whale
tbh i kinda want her too, her kit looks fun
magic tulip
shes like if iono actually had defensive buffs
outer whale
Her sync move made me want her badly
sullen pier
in the past, top 100 has barely been possible for me missing one key player and ...
I can confirm. Back when Grass HSE was around i had every Grass type except Adaman and V Mallow. I had no chances to break into top 200 lol
paper mist
you want Eri for her kit
I want Eri for Eri and also her kit
We are not the same sort of
outer whale
I want eri for her sync
paper mist
Her sync move made me want her badly
punching into a chop?
magic tulip
the 💢 clip art is funny
paper mist
this is my roster I already know I'm gonna get hampered by lack of copies
if you had to pick only 1 pair to get copies then who
neon prawn
I will do dailies on eri
outer whale
Gonna call it a night for now. Massive progress. Considering i had to remake the doc by scratch
magic tulip
rest easy
soft lodge
in the past, top 100 has barely been possible for me missing one key player and ...
late but I appreciate this perspective ty, I'll just save my candies then and coast with what I've got for now, and curse my master fair luck this year for missing bianca
glossy ravine
Mfw y'all have freaking near full rosters
glossy ravine
such whale much wow
hollow prism
idk if im even pulling Eri anyway
I have Steven, Shauna, Aura, Bianca
and Argenta prob 4/5
cyan tusk
Summer Tate and Alolan Grimsley are weak to ground...... and well.... LOL EQ mom...
It’s just 1 use
Just flinch it 
slow obsidian
I planned my team for HSE.
How does this look?
(Also unsure who to slot for the last one? 
)
modern rivet
who can sub for ss lear
signal needle
I planned my team for HSE.
How does this look?
I think replacing Bea with Riley is a good move cus she dies so easily herself
Othrrwise all teams look good
Maybe Colress for your last slot?
Just to paralyze and debuff accuracy
neon prawn
any relevant 10/5s this hse?
neon prawn
I planned my team for HSE.
How does this look?
maybe swap parnie and biNCa?Bianca has evasion for hjk spam and buffs sillie more while parnie would buff tate
night sleet
any relevant 10/5s this hse?
Only rose and poppy get it
So hard tell wat they 10/5 change or not
neon prawn
doesn't eri also get 10/5?
night sleet
Off course is easy get 1000 str have them
neon prawn
fighting and steel are fairly low pf types at least
neon prawn
yes
neon prawn
Eri is sup?
she's physical iono on steroids with better defense buffing, circle and better team boosts
neon prawn
also team damage boost under circle
night sleet
And just eri
slow obsidian
maybe swap parnie and biNCa?Bianca has evasion for hjk spam and buffs sillie mor...
Advice taken (and Shibi's advice taken as well) 
thanks
neon prawn
BiaNCa looks extremely funny on bea
night sleet
Off course rose poppy and eri will make 1000 str easy
But if you realy need it?
No
neon prawn
In future hses it might become big
night sleet
If more get and better utility yes
neon prawn
cuz steel and fighting are the least pf dominant types iirc?
neon prawn
Yeh
night sleet
Next hse when more unit have it will be alot change
neon prawn
in more pf dominant types not just the passives, but the 40% damage boost will be big for dds
night sleet
Gap vs top spender and rest will be big if this will have like 8-10 units
neon prawn
Pf pulling will be more common
night sleet
I mostly pull poke-fair 5/5
neon prawn
it's good that the hse during 10/5 release is the least pf heavy one
paper mist
Only rose and poppy get it
Rose, Poppy, Steven, and Eri all get it. I think the damage boosts they all get will make a difference and maybe stuff like Rose’s sync accel for more sync spam but overall? Don’t think so. MAYBE Eri’s since she gets team sync damage buff under circle.
neon prawn
ya all will be saving all 10/5 lolipops I assume? getting them is hard even if you whale
night sleet
Steven is ussles
neon prawn
Stove is still being roasted
night sleet
We have soo many strike tech steel
No need use him
Arc steven yes
But not regular lol
neon prawn
eri might be big for getting 1000 str on a stage that's hard to 1k without using other key units
paper mist
The next HSE will definitely make 10/5 more important and that sucks because I’m not a super whale 
neon prawn
I still find it hilarious that even after hse releases we will only have 2 fighting pfs
night sleet
Poppy get move not miss?
paper mist
Yeah
neon prawn
and only like 2 steel pfs are relevant
neon prawn
doesn't argenta already counter the gimmick?
paper mist
and only like 2 steel pfs are relevant
Rose and Argenta? Or Poppy and Argenta
paper mist
doesn't argenta already counter the gimmick?
Yeah both Bea and Jasmine
neon prawn
I forgot rose existed
night sleet
Rose aoe
paper mist
+2 accuracy per Sworce Dance
night sleet
Moves is nice
paper mist
Rose is the intended Jasmine counter
neon prawn
Rose will probably be very good on Jasmine?
paper mist
Yeah
neon prawn
aoe high horsepower is big
rough forum
Maybe some use
Definitely worth 5 candies rofl
neon prawn
sillie might also be big on Jasmine
paper mist
2 ground weak opponents with Piercing Gaze says “use rose” to me lol
Yeah she has the only SpA debuffing?
neon prawn
and she's not tech
and also immune to the accuracy gimmick
other than time trial we have 2 very nice params ar least
*at
paper mist
But using her and Rose would be awkward since he wont be using Steel (and killer on gauges without 5/5) but if you lack Rose then definitively Lillie as long as you mind the Steel Zone timing
neon prawn
Even if you use rose she might be optimal
paper mist
And if you lack both Rose and Lillie for some reason then Argenta may be a must against Jasmine. Or use Poppy since she is also immune and you really need a damage dealer.
Poppy + Lillie could be good if you lack Rose
neon prawn
can Rose survive buffed jasmine with acc down mults
paper mist
I still haven’t made good teams yet cause I’m still trying to figure out who can tank in that team. They need speed buffs cause my Rose isn’t 5/5
I’m already using Argenta elsewhere (and 1/5 so no SpDef buffs) and Registeel doesn’t buff the team outside of Speed
neon prawn
I still haven’t made good teams yet cause I’m still trying to figure out who can...
doesn't eri have team fmn
or am I misremembering
paper mist
She does! And I don’t have her yet so I’m gonna keep forgetting to place her until she’s in my roster
Pairs don’t exist until I own them 😩
neon prawn
She does! And I don’t have her yet so I’m gonna keep forgetting to place her unt...
you are gonna pull for her I assume
Eri also has special attack debuffs iirc
paper mist
I’m pulling her regardless of the HSE since she’s Villain-adjacent (and she’s my favorite of the star bosses)
neon prawn
She’s overall nice I have to say, gonna pull her
her kit is also fun
rough forum
I’m pulling her regardless of the HSE since she’s Villain-adjacent (and she’s my...
Based
She's in my top 5 paldea character
Happy af she got a fantastic 1/5 and 3/5
Her 10/5 is also crazy but I'm never getting her there
wooden swallow
Raw stage info
**Weakness order: Mid - Left - Right**
**Hala**: Anti Striker
-...
Anti special huh is there even a special fighting
neon prawn
keldeo
wooden swallow
oh didn't have her, didn't know she's special
neon prawn
rip the 4 diantha fans
cyan tusk
Rip me and the other 3
outer whale
due to something IRL happening, gonna take a break from working on the HSE event doc today.
oak fulcrum
they’re special moves that check against physical defense
doesn’t change the fact that the move damage is special
gleaming raven
Yeah, it'd be different if they messed with the enemy's defense stats, but when it focuses on Move Category she's still special
paper mist
ngl I'm surprised they went for anti-Special when most are Physical anyway. Was definitely expecting an Anti-Physical stage instead to try and force people to use Diantha/sTate/Raihan/etc
gleaming raven
I suppose they'd consider that a tad too restrictive
paper mist
it definitely feels like the devs are taking pity on players by giving us more no-rule stages and removing the No Healing parameter altogether
rough forum
they’re special moves that check against physical defense
Oh I thought we were talking about wise entry x2
Then yea
outer whale
it definitely feels like the devs are taking pity on players by giving us more n...
expect that rule to reappear on a stacked type
outer whale
they have reran types before
paper mist
we have even types, I think we're not gonna see any reran until every type's run once, water was needed since the types were uneven
which will be like, july again
Ice, Flying, Poison, Rock, Bug, and Normal are left
depending on if the Bug Arc is in Dec or March I think will determine when that HSE comes, in Jan for Dec or March for March
rough forum
I would pull Eri if she removd that ugly mask
We get it you have bad taste
Boring aaaa
H
signal needle
We get it you have bad taste
real taste:
paper mist
you like the weeaboo
rough forum
Bet you prefer him without mask too
paper mist
my guesses:
jan: poison/ice (atticus release)
march: bug/normal (alder bug arc in march)
may: flying/rock
signal needle
pretty sure they'll mix Bug and poison
they go together very well
everything else is whatever
maybe Normal Flying so that Larry can be the center stage
paper mist
also true, or poison/flying bc we have like 5 of the zubat family
signal needle
oh yea
Flying Ice makes sense though cus flying is also full of defog units (idk if Dena cares at all)
paper mist
flying/rock in june and then july releases minior after its over
signal needle
oh shit
paper mist
wait i forgot the timeline
the hse would be in may with july starting repeated types
ppl are skeptical of that but think of it this way: if a type as few pairs, they release a new pair of that type to try and get ppl to pull the new pair for the hse, we saw that with both summer pairs being ghost, and holiday sycamore being painfully obviously made for the grass hse. and ofc lance/cynthia/eri (and steven/lear after steel was announced etc etc...), so from a business perspective it makes it clear they'll run the unused, fewer types than rerunning any of them with the more abundant grass or fire etc
oak fulcrum
so I not so randomly now have 9/5 Steven, I should probably EX him for this right
paper mist
You did the tiered candy scout?
oak fulcrum
I figured I should shower Hoenn with some love plus I kinda wanted his grid upgrades anyway
it was an upgrade from 1/5 which was just active dead weight on my account
outer whale
I was wondering if it was worth it considering i can 5/5 him rn
Waste of 2.5k gems but....
paper mist
I have him 5/5 but dont plan on using him at all
cyan tusk
Im planning to use him btw
But I’d not advise him since it’s all about fully investing in him. I might be clearing Hala or poppy with double Steven or Hala with og Steven / Pal Marnie / ScSelene
Consider Selene raises team def when she attacks and Hala has mitigation 3 on atk drops
The team will have +6 def -6 atk before first Hala sync
paper mist
yeah I never use him outside of LG (and not lately) so I 10/5 isn't worth the investment for me
paper mist
I use Rose and Oleana a lot but I don't plan on awakening them any time soon. Penny though...but she's also only 3/5
I'm just gonna wait til all 3 batches are done since i doubt the 4 I'm waiting on will be in the same group
cyan tusk
Im also doing Steven bc there’s the banner up
cyan tusk
Jasmine is no techs right?
cyan tusk
Yup I’m brainstorming teams
soft lodge
I'm 10/5ing Steven solely bc of the banner, is he legit for tanking with SC selene buffing?
Stats with the cake and 6/5 look pretty decent at least
Recup, sync dmg guard, etc
outer whale
Speasking of..... Should I even mention Super Awakening for this Doc?
like..... i feel like it's still very New for it to be a factor for HSE but also.....
What units are even super awakened that matter here? Steven, Rose....... uhhhh?
oh and Poopy
so literally just steel types,
cyan tusk
It’s them and Eri
night sleet
And eri
outer whale
Oh shoot.
oak fulcrum
Steven maybe the only one people would realistically have because of the paid tiered banner?
cyan tusk
Poppy’s videos are already out on YT
The thing is they will matter bc the stat boost is really good, 720 bp Bhammer is huge
outer whale
Steven maybe the only one people would realistically have because of the paid ti...
I'm going to mention Eri as well
magic tulip
i feel like this kinda begs the question of like
who would realistically have multiple of those
bc thats a lot of candies you need to worry about
and 3/4 of them are strikes
outer whale
Rose and Poopy's isn't worth mentioning. Eri is somewhat notable, and Steven's is pretty big
honestly. MIGHT go for him tbh
already have him 3/5, but 4.5K gems to get him 6/5 Minimum isn't too bad ig
deft trout
Mine is 1/5 and I have 550 paid gems 
outer whale
I WANT ARC STEVEN!
We have Arc Steven at home:
cyan tusk
The safety net is really good btw
Also bc if you tank the sync you can just unyelding2 with tm too
hollow prism
Speasking of..... Should I even mention Super Awakening for this Doc?
No tbh
Who tf is 10/5ing shit
Maybe Steven but like why
There are at least 15 better units
oak fulcrum
Steven and to an extent Eri are the only ones that currently don’t cost an arm, a leg, and your firstborn child to get
hollow prism
But why would you even use base steven he’s so fkn bad
oak fulcrum
never said he was good, just that there’s a much lower barrier of entry to using him at max wokeness right now
paper mist
its a mix of him having the tiered scout for easier awakening + can be a tank with flinching + other benefits like support sync and team endure and pmun
outer whale
Steel types are graded, working on fighting types now, Please feel free to let me know if a unit is graded incorrectly, and definitely make an argument on it than just saying "S rank. bc trust me"
oak fulcrum
not steel but am I missing something that prevented windmill slam rei S tier vs Rose?
outer whale
windmill slam?
oak fulcrum
it seems like such an obvious pick: fighting weak mid, wants defense lowered, gets around the fight rule
outer whale
what is windmill slam tho 
oak fulcrum
oh it's just an instant pick kind of thing, borrowed the term from mtg limited
when there's a clear obvious power outlier in the pack you just snap pick it and pass the pack
outer whale
Yea, i haven't gotten there yet, was trying to figure out if you were talking about a steel type with windmill or something
outer whale
i've been staring at google docs for 5+ hours.
oak fulcrum
you're fine
also maybe there's a slight argument to summer tate vs rose as a charm bot?
his damage is so heavily countered by the gimmick, but who's to say you're bringing tate purely for the damage
outer whale
80% stats is kinda rough on him
oak fulcrum
it's not -80% stats, it's -80% damage right?
yeah just a special damage reduction, he keeps all of his stats
outer whale
Is that the same for hala?
Wait..... I was thinking the tech rule was on rose. it's on Jasmine
As you can tell my brain is all over the place rn
The spdef and attack drops are nice, as well as the AOE buffs.
I'll look into it some more.
outer whale
royal tiger
Cobalion is likely an A or S for VS Rose right? 😮
neon prawn
imo Eri will be the best support for this hse
outer whale
she won't be good for Poopy
Flying weak can hurt her
she would be amazing for Bea though
neon prawn
other than poppy she seems very good everywhere else to me
she counters rose
dc9 with attack and special attack debuffs, team pmun ,team fmn, circle z cracked healing
she can even do big damage twice
outer whale
going to take a break for now, on Rei now.... but wanted to share this.. 🙂
don't worry, there's a note that deciphers it
neon prawn
not that suprised
outer whale
also everyone, feel free to discuss the steel rankings, they are complete ™️
glossy ravine
I think palentine's Marnie should have a higher score all around
she covers a lot of the necessary points with only Jasmine as a bad matchup, and unlike Selene has better management over zone in steel stages so you won't take zone boosted enemy syncs if you don't want to
Also, why is base Jasmine's Hala matchup bad, she has important stat drop protection
I also think Wikstrom is quite underrated but I guess only change it when he's being used
outer whale
Hala has liquidation which is jasmine's weakness
glossy ravine
She can just run water guard and comfortably stomach, she has the tools
- you'll probably see resets
cyan tusk
Why Jasmine has to have steel sync, I wanna exr my Lillie
glossy ravine
Remember Anni Lillie's N matchup, lol
she can take it, she's very robust
but yeah, make it B and I think it's fine
outer whale
Will she be able to tank liquidations even at high strength?
glossy ravine
with water guard, yes
and she has FA/Recup/to heal it off and use unyielding, and you ideally complement her with external DR like Lear
or selene
Otherwise Steel is more or less accurate
outer whale
I'll fix the ranking in the morning when I can.
glossy ravine
Aura Cynthia's Jasmine matchup should be S/S+ mainly because getting a support this HS that buffs special defense is a highly endangered species
outer whale
Fighting is still being worked on
glossy ravine
Yeah, I just felt that was worth noting
I think Steven should always go to the steel weak stuff to make use of positive rebuff
Probably against Poppy because she's mixed
outer whale
I was definitely going to use Arc Steven personally on her.
Only problem is i have him 2/5
So no atk/spatk drops
neon prawn
I feel like sillie will show a lot of promise on jasmine when hse comes
cyan tusk
Hala
ScSelene - PMarnie - Hop
Bea
NCBianca - Colress (Diantha) - Eri/Summer Hilda
Poppy
Arc Steven - Summer Tate - Gloria (rocco if 10/5)
Rose
SSAcynthia - Rei - NcHop (might move him)
Jasmine
SSLear - Anni Lillie - ScShauna
Here is my draft that will surely be changed once hse comes out bc it’s tradition
Argenta came home twice in 7 dailies but I’m not gonna use her anyway
neon prawn
Hala
ScSelene - PMarnie - Hop
Bea
NCBianca - Colress (Diantha) - Eri/Summer Hi...
wdym colress(diantha)
cyan tusk
One or the other
Where there’s brackets it’s an option
Eri/summer Hilda
If I can get eri in time
glossy ravine
No rose?
I'll probably just have 2 good comps and that's it
No rei no bianca and no hop is a death sentence
gray shadow
Which to Upgrade first?
glossy ravine
Rose has gauge issue
Ehh, I think it's manageable, but I guess to reach their own
using lear vs hala instead
cyan tusk
Ehh, I think it's manageable, but I guess to reach their own
Imo Lear can get 1K offtype
cyan tusk
If uninvested is right, if fully invested is better used somewhere else
neon prawn
I have 5/5 SS Lear that I am gonna throw on hala for 1k str and get 100k and get the remaining 100k from the other stages and run away
outer whale
I need two cakes, one support one strike. I'm in suffer mode
neon prawn
I need two cakes, one support one strike. I'm in suffer mode
+suffer
quartz tapirBOT
neon prawn
+suffer3 when
outer whale
...are there even three units that need a strike cake? I know two of them exist
Sc selene and ss lear
paper mist
but I recently gave one to SSRC so best I can do is only 1 strike since i need to save a Support for Irida
paper mist
Sc selene and ss lear
Rei
outer whale
Oh riggghht
paper mist
Vthorton could also use a Support cake but I'd rather give it to Irida
oh right, Chop needs one too
kinda really hoping the new bundle gives cake coins or the vouchers
outer whale
There's only 3 units i need a cake for. I know one of them will need it.
SS Lear
SSA Cynthia
......and OG steven
paper mist
of these I think I really only wanna cake Lear
outer whale
The only reason i want to cake Og steven is because he's already 10/5. Might as well go all in lmao
main pulsar
Ssa Cynthia has an amazing cake
outer whale
I have 22 cake vouchers. But i need 18 for a strike and support cake. Think i need only 8 for a sprint tho
paper mist
ASteven, Sillie, Bianca, Poppy and Rose are all already caked, but the latter two was for BR
I have 31 cake vouchers and less than 5 daily tickets, and I need to exchange for this month's BR vouchers
I won't cake SCelene because she's 1/5, I'll have enough for Irida later in the month, and I think I can get 1 more cake but I'd rather use it for something BR related. Plus I have a leftover Tech cake for...someone.
mostly looking like Lear and nobody else for the HSE, even if Hop cake would be nice
outer whale
Current team ideas. Idk about Jasmine tho.
yes, i will use double steven, and no one will stop me
I might also switch out argenta for someone else. Idk yet
IF i get Eri..... maybe.
I still have sc diantha and SC Jasmine available
The bea team is going to be super funny tho
outer whale
ok, time to continue
outer whale
I also think Wikstrom is quite underrated but I guess only change it when he's b...
Ok, added your input, But I want to wait until HSE to see if Wikstrom deserves a higher ranking. my biggest concern for him is if he acts as a flincher, one AOE attack will just knock him out.
glossy ravine
Management is key with wikstrom
But I intend to use him
And maybe we'll see then
night sleet
He have his shield🤣
glossy ravine
Wikstrom also has this neat trick where if you don't proc passives with his shield you can quad queue
Meaning most special attacks
cyan tusk
Current team ideas. Idk about Jasmine tho.
Id swap anni Lillie and Tate
Hala has mitigation 3 on atk so you wanna debuff his atk
And also my concern on Bianca is her offensive output tbh
outer whale
Good catch!
cyan tusk
That’s why I’m debating on using Diantha with her to nuke mid
outer whale
That's what i was thinking of too
cyan tusk
I know summer Hilda does not have that bulk or sustain for the team, but she can protect twice if 3/5 plus Eva from Bianca and topsy turvy to lower Bea accuracy
So 2 protect, +6 def for the team, -6 atk for Bea to endure the sync, considering miss from HJK.. might get 900-1000 ish
outer whale
Hi jump kick is 3 gauge, so if she spams it, she'll be easy to quadqueue on
outer whale
If bianca focuses on sidemons while SC Diantha nukes mid, should be able to
Use Rebuff on Bea, nuke mid, sacred sword sides even pray for flinch
Could definitely work
outer whale
Summer hilda will just be there to meme on bea with -1 acc
cyan tusk
Bc funny +6 Eva -6acc full unova and colress has +6 atk from Hilda’s passives
But Diantha has way more debuffs for more points
Diantha will have to work a lot
My little pony will do the dirty job
cyan tusk
S+ on Bea Poppy Jasmine and Rose F Hala
outer whale
S+ on Bea Poppy Jasmine and Rose F Hala
not so much rankings, moreso listing out everything she does
cyan tusk
If you list what she doesn’t do, it’s faster
outer whale
Almost done. 6 more units left
I am not sorry for it
@hollow prism what you've been waiting for
cyan tusk
He doesn’t even have the theme skill for the boost
Otherwise i could have considered using him with rei and SSACynthia lol
outer whale
HIGH SCORE DOC IS DONE. FEEL FREE TO DISCUSS RANKINGS.
cyan tusk
feel free to judge you
outer whale
Listen, there's a reason why I'm open to discussion, I want other folk's input.
cyan tusk
Jk thanks a lot for the hard work 
Tbh Argenta S and Jasmine (steelix) B- seems a huge gap to me
Argenta is better bc she provides what Jasmine does and better stuff, but Jasmine is really good against hala, she also has the gym leader theme skill
Hop on Hala is S too for me. He has potions to heal allies way better than argenta, HB5, and can unleash powerful behemoth bashes with SEUN on Hala too
outer whale
My biggest thing is Jasmine being weak to liquidation on Hala. I know Stewpede mentioned Water Guard, But i'm still slightly skeptical.
cyan tusk
Vthorton S on Poppy is too high imo, A is better. discharge is still AoE and not so powerful
Lillie deserves an A on Poppy and Jasmine bc she’s one of the very few sp atk debuffers we have
In this hse
P marnie is an S on Hala for me, drops atk, can stock the SEUN from super syncer with growl/steel zone to unleash a devastating sync
outer whale
Upped Colress on Hala
cyan tusk
Kimono grimsley too, C+ is too low on Hala
I can see a post sync metal burst on a liquidation doing huge on Hala, we don’t have hp parameter so if he dies who cares
outer whale
I want to say B because would you be able to use Metal burst on EQ?
cyan tusk
Nope you are not using on that
You are flinching the EQ
But you can still use it on the liquidation
…im intching looking at poppy’s ranking
cyan tusk
Nope I’m itching looking at the other2
Bc my poppy is 2/5 and I can easily make her 3/5, but the 10/5 is gonna be the big difference and I’m not willing to invest
(Also, I have to consider rose on Jasmine too, thank you)
outer whale
I'm not putting 10/5 stat into account here.
that's way too much investment to even be viable to take into account
cyan tusk
Also, Gloria can be put higher imo, we’ve seen in steel dc she’s Poppy range of dmg overall
outer whale
SA Passives yes if they fit the criteria
outer whale
dude, I was at least expecting raihan to have Aggravation
main pulsar
but gloria needs an asterisk 5/5
outer whale
He doesn't
cyan tusk
Isn’t S Riley on Hala too much?
Also S DcDiantha on Hala she can’t even debuff atk
She can be an S on Bea bc she doesn’t care about acc with aura sphere
cyan tusk
S for chuck is too much, he does not have that high ceiling of dmg even fully invested
main pulsar
She can be an S on Bea bc she doesn’t care about acc with aura sphere
nononoon that sounds wretched
aura sphere dps does not xist
exist
having to use that is pretty awful
outer whale
Aura sphere Staggering 2 does.
main pulsar
thats still not dps
cyan tusk
And Bea is placed too high overall
cyan tusk
aura sphere dps does not xist
You don’t want to dps with Diantha for the most part of the fight. You wanna use her to spam aura sphere staggering here and there bc you wanna have time to debuff all 3 opponents and benefit from the whole debuff process
Bc we have debuffs in the point score
outer whale
thank you for the explanations Btw!
cyan tusk
And Bea is placed too high overall
Aaaaand I’m done about throwing random bullshit thoughts here and there
Is gonna be hard to fit rose against Jasmine, sheet
outer whale
nah, they weren't bulshit, they actually had reasonable arguments