High Score

[hollow prism]

The only issues are Raihan low and NCNate low specifically

[cunning shore]

478k
Maxie: 850
Nita: 800
Zinnia: 550
Leon: 800
N: 800

[blazing raven]

you should be able to p easily 400k if not 500 tbh

given what other people have posted

[hollow prism]

But other than that you have the god roster

[long oyster]

Yeah Mix gave me dupes for no reason

[mortal timber]

how many feathers

[hollow prism]

How important is FRox 3/5

[outer whale]

200ish.

[mortal timber]

a lot tbh, just for the fact she can debuff atk too

[hollow prism]

Oh shit

[outer whale]

I was focused more on stats than passives

[mortal timber]

and then sync multipliers

at 2/5 it's mainly mgrs

[cunning shore]

Ummm very important I think

[outer whale]

incredibly important

[mortal timber]

i am getting the last tech candy very soon

[cunning shore]

She has so much usage in her 3/5

[mortal timber]

after that i try to bump to +500k points

for now i just sit and wait

[cunning shore]

After I caught up to being your neighbor

[hollow prism]

Wait why tf is Pallow with Nate Iris

[mortal timber]

oh you did?

[outer whale]

Dabbo wtf.

[mortal timber]

what happened linkable

[cunning shore]

She buffs defense
She heals per hit
She is a tank
Iris for flinch and debuffs
Nate
Well
Nate.

[outer whale]

"This will be my last HSE, i just don't have fun with this mode anymore."
Anyways, going to candy Froxanne to get 500k points

[mortal timber]

it's my last hse i can confirm

[cunning shore]

[hollow prism]

But doesn’t she lower sp def

[long oyster]

Dabbo didn't you say that about grass HSE as well

[mortal timber]

can i end it on a good note please?

🥺

just for the last good memories

[outer whale]

fair but

[cunning shore]

I don't care what she lowers, she's tanking and healing everything

Iris is the debuffer
Nate the damage dealer

[hollow prism]

Is Zinnia a physical or special attacker

[mortal timber]

after that don't worry you won't see me anymore

mixed

[cunning shore]

Zinnia mis

Mix*

[mortal timber]

sync is special tho

[hollow prism]

Can pallow take her or no

[cunning shore]

Ummm

[blazing raven]

oh yeah, linkable youre in the group of people i wanted to cross reference with: is steven getting og cynthia to +6atk in one move + higher timer/attack count worth only having 2x multiplier on maxie, or is it better to have cynthia buff herself but get a 3x?

[cunning shore]

Not quite

[hollow prism]

:/

[cunning shore]

She will fair like the others

Who buff defenses only

Crunch, brutal swing sure

Sync will rip

Also dragon ascendant super effective

So that will rip

No matter what you do

[hollow prism]

Thinking if there’s a way you just take it and lower sp def for Zerena

[cunning shore]

Zerena needs massive help
I don't think pallow is enough

Zinnia in general just an a hole

[outer whale]

You shouldn't lose a Ground/Dragon unit for score, it's a massive drop in points that will make your point gain feel medicore compered to the difficulty you had with the battle.

[hollow prism]

And we’re also like 99% sure Zerena is totally the only way to even slightly take Zinnia?

[blazing raven]

o7 3x it is

ty!

[cunning shore]

No, but all the alternatives work better on other stages

Leon
Lance
Work better vs Leon

And lance sync is physical

So

You will struggle there too

[hollow prism]

Cope on only B Move

[cunning shore]

The big brain is

Lance zerena together

Leon vs leon

[hollow prism]

THAT’S WHAT IM SAYING

[cunning shore]

I wouldn't do it

But hey

You can try

[hollow prism]

It’s only half a joke tho bc how tf did someone get 615k

[cunning shore]

He will nerf the sp.defs

[hollow prism]

Without a 110k+ on her

[cunning shore]

And can actually flinch at 3/5

[outer whale]

I'm considering doing one battle before work..... which should I do first? Maxie or Zinnia?

[blazing raven]

maxie

[cunning shore]

Maxie

Zinnie will take so much time

[blazing raven]

absolutely not zinnia

[hollow prism]

Yeah the Lance Flinch is what keeps him worth

[outer whale]

will do.

[cunning shore]

Any high strs maxie

Heatwave is reset battle

[hollow prism]

C Y N T H I A

[cunning shore]

Ik that

[hollow prism]

OK WAIT WTF JO WHY IS THE HAPU CLEAR STILL THERE 💀💀💀💀💀

[cunning shore]

Because

I don't have alternatives

Lmao

[hollow prism]

NO STOP IT

literally ANYONE else

😭

[cunning shore]

Hapu supremacy

She lives sync too

[hollow prism]

[cunning shore]

I already disagreed when link was doing the list

[hollow prism]

Fair enough

[cunning shore]

He put Hapu F and idk clair like D

I was like

howwwww

[hollow prism]

Clair in D is crazy

Any support in D this HS is yikes

except drake

🤡

[blazing raven]

i think my other idea is just. see how quickly i can get from 8k to 10kbp and grab nita

[cunning shore]

Drake deserves some love you know

He can put in work

[hollow prism]

No he doesn’t

[cunning shore]

As a secondary tani

Tank*

[hollow prism]

To the depths of the box with ye!

[cunning shore]

You'll see

Someone will pop up with him

[hollow prism]

“Secondary tank” is just another way of saying a bad tank

[cunning shore]

He gives buffs

Important ones

And para

Also emergency Regn sync

[hollow prism]

I don’t like para unless it’s a specific stage req

Para is so yikes

I’d rather poison or sleep

[cunning shore]

Dabbo was loving para

I was struggling

Same stage

[hollow prism]

Para never triggers tho

And imagine the speed mattering

[cunning shore]

It does

[blazing raven]

so ok if i do

• maxie: bertha og cyn [nita]
• nita: clay cyrus lodge cyn (complete)
• zinnia: sygna leon lodge rika []
• leon: lance rika []
• n: courtney arc cyn bp zinnia

[hollow prism]

Me when i’m rolling for 2 full paras in a HS clear: Lets go gambling!

[cunning shore]

Sometimes

[hollow prism]

Aw Dangit!
Aw Dangit!
Aw Dangit!

[cunning shore]

[blazing raven]

probably put in drake for zinnia??

[outer whale]

Not bad.... 👀

Could probably go higher. This was 550 str

[hollow prism]

Also Flinch or sleep is just better bc timed right it’s -2 Sync CD

[blazing raven]

so who tf goes with rika + lance on leon

[hollow prism]

I have no idea

[cunning shore]

We don't have much options this time around

Lance flinch btw so good

1 gives u extra cycle

[blazing raven]

oh wait i forgot i was gonna put lisia on zinnia for fairy

[hollow prism]

Ye Ik all these units are just hit hard

Fire HS on crack

Except instead of Flint sending you to the pits of hell it’s Zinnia and Nita

I want this HS to be over so we can get back to Grass and I can show everyone that Greta is the GOAT

[night sleet]

Greta?

[hollow prism]

Yes

[night sleet]

Lol ramos 2.0

[hollow prism]

Nahhhh

Ramos 2.0 that also stuns the entire team twice after AISync

☠️

I’m gonna get 6-7 syncs pre AI 2nd sync with her ez

[night sleet]

Hope grass not soon

Don’t like it

[hollow prism]

Greta is the only unit i don’t have for grass

Every other unit i have max investment for HS

Even 4/5 Victor

[hasty zenith]

I hope Adaman will get his EXR until grass HSE

[hollow prism]

He literally doesn’t need it

[hasty zenith]

(pls strike )

[hollow prism]

Adaman is so busted already that he’d still be the best unit

Idk what tf else he’d get

Nothing that actually makes sense

[cyan tusk]

Plz give a candy to nita

[hollow prism]

Also a strike tech

WHO ISN’T SLOW AS FUCK

LOOKING AT YOU MAXIE AND LILLIE

[cunning shore]

Nita is 3/5?

[hollow prism]

i have 5 strike techs for rally and the only one that isn’t MOLASSES is SSHilbert, and ONLY if i spam metal sound

[blazing raven]

ok so. is it insane to put 1/5 og lance as my champ/battle facility unit on zinnia specifically so that i have potions to keep lisia alive

[hollow prism]

AAAAAAAAA

Adaman fixes that problem entirely

[blazing raven]

trying to decide if im insane or if im cooking

[hollow prism]

A unit that has free gauge and ACTUALLY ATTACKS

[hasty zenith]

His B move is aoe so strike exr would be perfect

[hollow prism]

Sorry, i want to process this

You want to use 1/5 OG Lance?

[blazing raven]

i have exactly 5 champion/battle facility dragon or ground units

lodge cyn, arc cyn, og cyn, sygna leon, and og lance, who was my lovely prize from the 100 pull tickets 🙄

[hollow prism]

I am urging you

Please reconsider

💀

[blazing raven]

hes at 7/100 of the way to lodge lance and not sure i can unlock his lodge unit in time

[hollow prism]

1/5 Lance is uhhhh

[blazing raven]

oh hes atrocious

[hollow prism]

Yeah hard no lmao

[blazing raven]

i would literally never touch him if not for needing the points here

[outer whale]

today i learned... if you flinch Zinnia on Dragon Asent, she just never uses it

[hollow prism]

If you can unironically do the same str then sure

But you’re not

[hollow prism]

Yo that’s good to know

[blazing raven]

what is the absolute minimum time to go from 0 to 100 on a lodge unit

[hollow prism]

Like 6 days

And you’d have to get a 0%

[outer whale]

and that's if you're at +10 before starting

[hollow prism]

On every day

[blazing raven]

ok, the event is more than 6 days

[hollow prism]

I’ll also say i’m 4 days in and at lvl 35

[blazing raven]

so i can maybe wait on zinnia and get lodge lance

it'll mean hard resetting for max vibes etc but

[hollow prism]

Because all my lodge units leave at 93%

🤡

[blazing raven]

god real

[hollow prism]

Fuck you Trainer Lodge

[hasty zenith]

I wonder how high will be cutoff score for top 100/500

[hollow prism]

Trash ass feature

[blazing raven]

me trying to get skyla to 85 for the yellow coin and getting 3 4-interacts in a row (gifted at 3)

[hollow prism]

Oh it’s worse

I get a rotation where i have to start with a max vibes, then on the 4th topic they leave the first time it goes below 100%

🤡

That’s standard

[blazing raven]

REAL

[hollow prism]

All my luck goes into Banners and i have none left for lodge

Which is a tradeoff i’ll take lol

[hasty zenith]

just reset lol

[outer whale]

I just realized....

I didn't do my HSE meme yet

[hollow prism]

You can shit on me in lodge all you want if it means i keep getting 1st multi arc units ezzzzz

[blazing raven]

lmao

ok. lodge lance for zinnia, which means i dont have to try and make og lance work. thank god

[hollow prism]

Do og lance anyway

Suffer

[blazing raven]

absolutely not xoxo

[night sleet]

Adaman strike or sup

Would be the best

[blazing raven]

is base adaman field?

he could make a good field with set sun on sync

[outer whale]

Oh we're already at a good start. Already finished Nita for her meme

[blazing raven]

also yall holy shit

[tidal pine]

How is this the first time I've seen Haxorus queueing Earthquake when center is alive 🙃

[hasty zenith]

It rarely uses EQ, ig 1 in 15 battles

[tidal pine]

I would've gotten 100K otherwise 🙃

[hasty zenith]

It's my run breaker right after wild charge

[tidal pine]

I'm keeping that Earthquake in note now

[night sleet]

Hse is about resets

For perfect runs😜

[tidal pine]

yep

but I'm somewhat used to it by now

[hasty zenith]

Thank God we have reset option

2 years since introduction

[tidal pine]

but that Earthquake did caught me off-guard I won't lie XD

[night sleet]

Good im finish hse so now watch others suffer🙃😂😜

[tidal pine]

you be like:

[hasty zenith]

I'm going for 350k and I'm done, probably it won't help me to stay in top 500 tho...

[tidal pine]

I'm not sure how far I'll go

[hasty zenith]

Unless I get Lance from some lucky daily pull

[night sleet]

Lance is bad

The wors off them

Hate him stupid unit

[hasty zenith]

Bad or not, better than 2/5 Ryuki

[night sleet]

Ryuki is free🤩

[hasty zenith]

+insta def/spdef debuff

[night sleet]

Lance not worth gems

[blazing raven]

... i couldve sworn i clicked #1009557516369281075 , mb yall

[graceful pike]

Goddammit i forgot about the conditions so one pot wasted

And that last fire blast was so damn unwanted

[outer whale]

Chat, this HSE's Meme is done..... are you all ready?

i will say, it was less effort than previous ones, but still good.

[hasty zenith]

Almost 100k with 1/5 Cynthia I think I'll rest for now, I wonder how fast I will fall off the top 500

[outer whale]

Dragon/Ground HSE in a Nutshell.

[night sleet]

Poor archie

He is like water fairy ice 1 round

Super easy

Zinnia is bad grafics

[outer whale]

I got lazy.

[blazing raven]

love pmd no complaints but was surprised u didnt go with one of the manga 'oh god oh fuck' ray panels

[hasty zenith]

My best unit against Maxie is tl Volo I'd want to say it's easy

[outer whale]

I don't know PokeSpe images that well

[night sleet]

Now then, what shall I steal tonight?"

[hasty zenith]

I forgot that Zinnia cosplayed Ace in Pokemon manga

[night sleet]

This is better

[blazing raven]

ig the murder of brendan isnt so relevant given the typing of the hse but

[night sleet]

For zinnia

Steal your points haha

[outer whale]

she doesn't steal buffs though so it doesn't make too much sense in the battle context.

[blazing raven]

anyway to repeat pmd >>> s tier meme

[night sleet]

She steal your time🙂‍↔️

Trying win and score make sens

[outer whale]

Brendan has a dragon type so it does work

[blazing raven]

for some reason i only remembered her getting hyper beamed not stabbed goddamn

[outer whale]

anyways, I gotta head to work so

got Maxie done tho

Ok, i won't lie, this looks horrible.

there is WAY too much wording on this title

[slate flame]

still waiting for someone to help me build teams

[mortal timber]

the 5-year Morbius anniversary s-move hp: team recovery 2 High Score Ground and Dragon Conqueror

is this better now

[outer whale]

[blazing raven]

you have a bunch of cracked units, you can crib from many that people have posted thus far

bertha + og cynthia is a solid core for maxie

cyrus is solid for nita

im guessing cerena can put in work on leon

ok after scrolling back a bit i skipped some i thought you didnt have the units for but you do have most of them

[rough forum]

Found out my ended with 7 so went the extra mile for round number kek

Could probably reach 350k but who cares

400/320/350/300/515

[slate flame]

did 56k on N with arc cynthia, bertha and nc rosa

but had to set to 600

[rough forum]

You should optimize your points more

A 500 faster, healthier clear gives more than a 600 barely scraping by clear

That's also likely longer

Also dumping NC Rosa is the better idea there

[cyan tusk]

Mallow sorry

[cyan tusk]

Also if she misses/hit herself in confusion/you max guard it / stays para

[slate flame]

who can replace her as a support?

[rough forum]

Filter with ground or dragon pairs

[outer whale]

Trying to think if swapping Bt leon with Lucas would be better for Zinnia

[slate flame]

k

[outer whale]

I need more DPS to Ko sides

I could just lucas it too but..... hmm

[blazing raven]

whats your current config again?

[outer whale]

Ss Brendan 3/5 - BT Leon 1/5 - Anni Raihan 3/5

The problem is if they spam dragon pulse, what's the point of dragon guard, i'm going to have to spam potions

[blazing raven]

yeah

[outer whale]

Dragon Zone is going to make it harder, but it would be helpful on DPS

[rough forum]

Wouldn't bt Leon be better in N or Nita stage?

[outer whale]

Nita and N are already covered super well

[blazing raven]

i think maybe yeah leon might be the unit to switch out if you need the dps

[outer whale]

N and Nita

[blazing raven]

bc he unfortunately does suffer somewhat on the direct damage side of things

[rough forum]

Thing is, Leon damage is the only good one of those 3 units

So you'd need someone with better DPS or synergy

[outer whale]

He's 1/5 tho

[blazing raven]

i mean yeah thats what i mean

1/5 leon vs a better dps

[rough forum]

1/5 has still better DPS than Lucas

[slate flame]

here's the ground/dragon chart with role separators this time

[blazing raven]

the other two are pulling their weight

[outer whale]

The problem is all those debuffers i have are physical nukers

[rough forum]

If not invested

[blazing raven]

i mean breaking swipe is also phys dmg which is reduced

for zinnia

so hes doing 80% less

[outer whale]

The problem is DPS tho

Not debuffing

The only attacking move i have is anni raihan's sync

[blazing raven]

oh youre using raihan for sync

[outer whale]

Yea

Which is why i'm trying to see if it's better to swap BT Leon for Lucas

[rough forum]

The team is arc Cyn bertha so why not do Lcynthia or Nita so you can either theme skill or stack passives with Cynthia

[blazing raven]

are you syncing with brendan at all for mega or nah?

[rough forum]

Lower str a bit

[outer whale]

I can for mega, problem is he will die by the time he syncs

[blazing raven]

also clair i was going to ask why they had both arc cyn and bertha

[outer whale]

And it's solely from physical moves

[rough forum]

To be fair

Bringing Brendan Vs zinnia

Is kinda harsh

[outer whale]

I mean, where else could i put him, he's there for potion healing, and i have max guard to block dragon ascent

[rough forum]

Dpulse is hard hitting and everything else is physical

[blazing raven]

yeah, just since his mega is +def stats wasnt sure if it might keep u alive longer but yeah sort of an initial problem there lol

[rough forum]

Are you doing like

500+ STR

[outer whale]

Yes

[rough forum]

Well I really can't see that working out with Brendan ngl

Bro is paper

[outer whale]

I'm doing 500 exactly, and he can survive provided i sync woth anni raihan instead

Plus his MPRs is freaking amazing

[rough forum]

Yeah but sides become an issue

[outer whale]

Yea

[blazing raven]

i think the added damage you take from dragon wish isnt worth it

but

[rough forum]

I'd just go 400-440 and grab an easier, healthier run

[outer whale]

I wanted ti have Lucas focus on sidemons while I sync mid with Raihan

[slate flame]

I think I'll wait a little, I bought the omni-candy bundle and Im 3 coins away from a candy so my arc cynthia will be 3/5

[rough forum]

It will still be worse than running 3 ground/dragons anyway

Especially with a 3/5

[outer whale]

Aside from that, Zinnia is my only problem, everyone else, i have aoe damage to take care of sidemons

[rough forum]

No reason to grasp for a 30k double points when you can more easily nab a 20-25k triple

Instead

[rough forum]

Are you aiming for a specific score or

[outer whale]

I want 350kish

[rough forum]

Well I did zinnia 60k with 3 very bad units

350 STR

[outer whale]

I know my arc lance team can easily hit 100k. It's freaking Lodge cynthia/NC Nate/Arc Lance on ss leon

[blazing raven]

... actually, if you need potions

where do you have lodge lance?

[long oyster]

Who does Arc Lance bully

[outer whale]

Imagine having Lance.

[blazing raven]

lmao

[rough forum]

The dragon weak stage

[outer whale]

I do not have og lance

[blazing raven]

have arc lance and not og is a life i wish i lived

[rough forum]

[long oyster]

Theres a dragon weak stage ?

[blazing raven]

still mad about getting him from the tickets lmao

[outer whale]

Ss leon

[long oyster]

Oh

[rough forum]

I got him from a free select where you could choose

Iirc

The lodge unit is hella fun

[outer whale]

Whst does he even do?

Like he has no defense buffs

[blazing raven]

potions, hyper beam, freevenge

[rough forum]

Midpoint mend and potions with a self hurt TM that gives team SMUN, crit and spa

[blazing raven]

so

not much

[long oyster]

I pulled lance when he released since he and cynthia were the first PFs
Still mad about it today

[blazing raven]

i worry im a broken record but im shaking ur hand on this wrt cynthia

[rough forum]

You basically fish for TM and potions mprs while your damage guard unit destroys the stage

It's funny

[blazing raven]

i paid for gems to get og cynthia to pity

when she debuted

[rough forum]

His damage is also great

For a support

[long oyster]

I pulled both with free gems then immediately uninstalled the game because slowgaleo coop was overheating my phone

[blazing raven]

lmao

[long oyster]

Good times tbh

[blazing raven]

remember back in those days when we had coop

[rough forum]

I got Cyn and Steven
Skipped lance
Got him for free like 18-20 months ago

[blazing raven]

lol, lmao

i still dont have og steven

[rough forum]

Thank god it's no more

for now.

[blazing raven]

i should probably pick a month to throw some pulls at the lodge banner

but i dont hugely care about the units im missing

in a char or mon sense

so it just feels like a waste

[rough forum]

I got 2 lodge units for free
Marnie & Lance
Can't complain

[blazing raven]

the lodge units i dont have are steven, adaman, irida, volo, n, gladion, marnie, raihan, gloria, kabu, and iono

and i know at least two of those are good enough to try and get but ughhhh

its not like theyll ever put adaman and irida in the lodge banner anyway

[crude iron]

...oh, ryukis bad? ngl i just am not familiar with the new characters lol

[long oyster]

I checked his kit rq

He's weird

[blazing raven]

hes very much a tech thats for sure

[gleaming raven]

he seems fine enough to me really, dauntless draco meteor isn't nothing

[long oyster]

I do not understand the benefits of pressing shell trap

[blazing raven]

his passive gives damage guard when he does

so he absorbs a hit and then retaliates for it

iirc he gets smun for it too

[long oyster]

But then I have to tank 2 moves with 176 defense

[blazing raven]

i mean

his defenses are ass ill give u that

but he gets endure and vigi iirc

and sync burst for a third shell trap use

[long oyster]

Wheres the endure ?

[blazing raven]

hes almost wobbuffet-esque

oh mb its first aid 9 not endure

anyway. hes an extremely techy tech

def not everyones cup of tea or useable in most situations, but has his moments

and hey 220bp aoe hit with 2 smun and max spatk isnt too shabby

[crude iron]

is drasna a good unit in this content

[blazing raven]

shes toxic stall primarily and the time trial score hurts stall units + toxic not being an attack for the attack score hurts her too, but if you're going for a higher added difficulty and not going for those extra points as much then she does have infinite free super effective moves

but also leon and n have other much better units to use

[crude iron]

for dps/nukes:

• Arc Cyn
• Arc Lance
• Cyrus
• Anni Raihan
• SS Serena
  ? or do i consider someth else
  for the core of the teams

prob gonna exr both multis

[blazing raven]

i would say arc cyn for n, arc lance for leon, cyrus for nita, anni raihan for zinnia, zerena for maxie

[long oyster]

Damn N is popular

[blazing raven]

...

damnit

im a fool 😔

but yeah you have a great roster you should be fine

[long oyster]

Why not arc cyn on maxie for easy gauge

[blazing raven]

maybe a little thin on debuffers for zinnia

[blazing raven]

bc no ex courtney or bertha for n

so the next best way to get super high n score is arc cyn

[long oyster]

Simply ex them smh

[blazing raven]

also i do keep forgetting about gauge

so maybe swap zerena

stupid -2

[hasty zenith]

Finally 350k, yesterday I was hoping for 300k lodge Volo is such a garbage, but still better than 1/5 base cynthia

[blazing raven]

if theres a zerena n comp ive mostly seen her on leon iirc and we want lance for leon rather than n

[crude iron]

that reminds me how good is lodge cynthia

[blazing raven]

shes solid

[crude iron]

dont think can do zerena on n

she striker

[blazing raven]

ahhh thatll do it

but yeah given how few supports there are

shes very much solid

i used her w/ cyrus on nita

[crude iron]

i kept forgetting to do lodge as usual so my cynthia on 86/110 rn in lodge

[blazing raven]

bc she can give him his missing +crit and gauge accel for hydro pump

imagine not having cynthia as your only lodge interaction until rika dropped and you came back to the game having her at almost 200 before starting any other lodge unit to unlock the roster

but yeah def worth grabbing her if you can

[crude iron]

i think about to get cyn lodge unit, 217 and she hasnt dropped me

[hasty zenith]

2 alola tickets and 6.25% for 3/5 Ryuki, damn

[crude iron]

yep got her to lv107

[blazing raven]

nice

[crude iron]

what lucky skill she want

[blazing raven]

every time ive gotten ryuki instead of the units i actually want from alola scout i cri

[crude iron]

vigil?

[blazing raven]

vigi

she'll be tanking

[crude iron]

ok ty, havent read her kit much yet lol. just figured since was already close might as well grab the unit

[blazing raven]

i went with dire hit -> tm -> dire hit -> eq until needing to do the second tm since she has healthy healing passive, you might want to do first eq sooner for the heal but as long as you get the first tm up before you start hydro pump

[crude iron]

5 starred her, prob not exing yet cause theres still couple favs to ex

(esp since im probably gonna end up picking up ss wally from the tech select later this month if i had to guess; waiting on the paid gems to trickle in from bundle before fully decide)

[blazing raven]

yeah def dont need to ex her

[outer whale]

Question, would 5/5 gioking work for maxie?

[blazing raven]

does 5/5 reduce his move cost?

iirc the issue with maxie gioking is the 4 bar move cost

[outer whale]

He gets mgr 9

Thats it

[blazing raven]

so prob not

[long oyster]

Youd still need max speed

Gioking is not really fast

[outer whale]

Partnered with ingo and bertha tho?

[long oyster]

With tm mpr maybe

I never paired Gioking and Ingo together tbh

[earnest fulcrum]

Guys where can I check the top scores and their teams ?

[long oyster]

idk about teams but for score you can check the ladder after completing every battle

[earnest fulcrum]

Not mine, I mean members here who submitted their teams and scores. They used to compile those every past HS

[long oyster]

Oh

No idea

[outer whale]

Sages is usually the one who compiles it. Idk if folks submitted runs tho

[earnest fulcrum]

yup

[bold pond]

Maxie - Arc Cynthia, Bertha, Ingo
Nita - Fall Roxane, Maxie, Lodge cynthia,
Zinnia - SS Serena, Lucas, NC Rosa
SS Leon - Arc Lance, NC Nate, NC Bede
N - Courtney, Bertha, Rika

Will this work for the event? Please ping me

[outer whale]

Nc bede?

[long oyster]

Are you aiming for 200k

[bold pond]

I just threw a strong support in, didn't know what to do

[bold pond]

Yeah that's it

[earnest fulcrum]

you can't use Bertha two times

[long oyster]

It could work if you fix that Bertha issue

[bold pond]

Lodge Rika?

These are my options

[long oyster]

Anything really

You've got Arc Cyn and Arc Lance

You can just do high scores with them and go lower with other teams

[bold pond]

Should I replace Bede and Rosa?

[long oyster]

I would definitely replace Bede with a dragon/ground to maximize Arc Lance's points

[bold pond]

Any suggestions?

I'm out of ideas for support

[earnest fulcrum]

Can I pull 5 teams to score in this event ?

[bold pond]

Maybe use Nita with arc lance?

[long oyster]

Could use Nita on Nita and Lodge Cynthia on Leon

[bold pond]

Thanks I'll try that

Probably around 180 strength?

[outer whale]

@bold pond use Lodge Cynthia and add Dragon Guard to her. she comes equipped with Group Water Guard which will protect your units from Surf for SS Leon's sidemons

[bold pond]

Do I need a specific grid for the water guard? Also is dragon guard a regular cookie?

[outer whale]

Dragon guard is a

GWG is literally her passive

[neon prawn]

what ground dragon units have damage guard on command

[outer whale]

BT Leon, Anni Raihan, and SS Serena through sync

[neon prawn]

Great....I have none of those...

[blazing raven]

ryuki

[neon prawn]

oh wait

could I use him to tank 2 Leon moves including the max move

[blazing raven]

max hits all opponents no?

[neon prawn]

no

[blazing raven]

if its single target then yeah grid sync burst and you get 3 uses of shell trap

[neon prawn]

does ryuki have healing

[blazing raven]

passive first aid 9

his defenses are Atrocious

but

he has dgn

[outer whale]

Dude SS Gio's Grid is SO BAD.

LIKE GENUINELY

[blazing raven]

yeah this is the penciled-in one i have for if i ever picked him up

but even that is so wildly specific

[neon prawn]

do I go nate, wally and ryuki on Leon or nate Brendan and ryuki on Leon

[neon prawn]

wait his grid is that bad?

[outer whale]

The grid is great, but his energy usage is trash

[blazing raven]

heres the full thing

its one of those grids where like

yeah there are a ton of great tiles but

you only have 60 energy

[neon prawn]

everything is wildly spaced out huh

[blazing raven]

and hes so anti-synergy

[outer whale]

even with 70 energy it's terrible

[blazing raven]

bc he has so many things he wants to do

he wants to dynamax but he wants to sync but he wants to sand but he wants to

[outer whale]

But he needs gauge.

[neon prawn]

what comp should I go with? currently stuck at 670 strength on Leon

I wanna get 800 str on the stage I use nate on ideally

[blazing raven]

and none of those things actually help him with being more usable because of hit the gas

[outer whale]

Screaming, crying.

70 energy btw

[neon prawn]

meanwhile nc Nate getting everything good in 70 energy

truly best boy

[blazing raven]

like as a counterpoint naomi doesnt necessarily have a 'good' grid but she can actually reach the things she wants to equip without sabotaging herself in the process, whether you go for sync nuke or ultra sand synergy

[outer whale]

Like genuinely this is so maddening, I want haymaker, but damage output would be greater if i Det defense down after sync andMax countdown 3.

but i can't REACH those tiles unless i get energy that costs a literal arm and a leg

Don't tell me i need to give GIOKING STOIC 2

JUST TO SURVIVE SYNC

[blazing raven]

literally

so who has a worse grid: gioking (cant reach or afford anything) or og leon (they did him so dirty what even is that)

[neon prawn]

We don't talk about og Leon

such a shame for the first mf

[blazing raven]

i want blue/pidgeot to be flying arc but i think that means leon/charizard for fire arc and i dont know how i feel about that bc he deserves a better core unit but also... he has alts. hes fine. leave him be free us from charizard

[neon prawn]

doesn't blue have the most alts

[blazing raven]

he might but theres no good flying arc alternative and hes objectively one of the oldest units and most deserving of a glow up

[neon prawn]

give skyla a glow up

reason:I like her

[blazing raven]

valid but also shes only a gym leader not a champ

[neon prawn]

What stages have been the wrost for ya all so far?

initially N was gonna be my wrost but then I pulled arc cyn and now it's between zinnia and Leon for me

[outer whale]

Gioking won

[blazing raven]

ok so blue has base (pidgeot, arcanine, lodge, dc), sygna (blastoise), classic (aero, mix char), and nc so more units than leon but the same number of actual designs

[outer whale]

Real talk, i ain't even mad!

[blazing raven]

damn

genuinely impressive

[outer whale]

this frees up SS Serena for Zinnia

[blazing raven]

doesnt zinnia have -80% phys dmg

[outer whale]

SS Serena's Sync is special

[blazing raven]

ahhh

also

did the ref post get unpinned

[outer whale]

it got unpinned because the images below have that info

[blazing raven]

ah

[neon prawn]

gratz

[blazing raven]

steven has 6 unique designs, does anyone have more... hmm

[neon prawn]

I hate that Leon has eternabeam

[blazing raven]

ok yeah steven has the most unique designs; there are a couple 5s but no other 6s

[neon prawn]

@haughty haven how's hse going btw

[haughty haven]

Boring

[neon prawn]

what's your points on the stages so far

[neon prawn]

you are here with 4800k while I am struggling to getting to 300k....sad

[night sleet]

Pykuo is fighting again for top20:)

Go go

[neon prawn]

also Leon against Leon is hilarious

what's the most annoying stage to ya all this hse?

gotta be Leon for me

[haughty haven]

Zinnia by a lot

[night sleet]

Zinnia

[neon prawn]

zinnia is also close for me

[night sleet]

Leon is super easy

[haughty haven]

Not just bc of her DA

Bc she use both Physical/Special and that a 2 different type

So it is always a coin flip

[neon prawn]

My ss Brendan dies to eternabeam even at max hp at 700 str

[haughty haven]

That weird?

You weren’t debuff SpA ?

[night sleet]

Yes

[neon prawn]

I heard her dragon ascent is also really annoying

[night sleet]

My live 800 str easy too end

Sync g max

[haughty haven]

SS Brendan always survive Max Move just fine

[neon prawn]

3/5 only on ss Brendan, no gears and I can only get-2 usually cuz they x special attack all so wally doesn't keep at that well

[night sleet]

Then is issue need debuff him

[neon prawn]

so I just click dragon breath the entire time? My ss Brendan being only 3/5 means he can't exactly help with the special attack debuffing

[night sleet]

You can debuff spe def whit luster purge

[neon prawn]

Yes but Leon sp def isn't the issue since as long as it's+0 or less he doesn't get any benefit from it which ss wally can handle. I can't get Leon to -4 or -6 before max which is an issue

[haughty haven]

Did you try debuff side too ?

No reason to do that early tho

[neon prawn]

I let Nate aoe kill the sides

otherwise I don't touch the sides

[haughty haven]

Then idk how you cant debuff Leon do

Bc he only uses X SpA after Sync

Even his Sidemon doesn’t have it

They have X Def

[neon prawn]

lemme retry

[flat sundial]

am i stupid or is N like

overpowered

completely

nvm

[glossy ravine]

Lisia is actually good here

[cyan tusk]

Arc Cynthia is multi so she’s not affected by the stage condition of strikers

[flat sundial]

I know but that's base Cynthia

[night sleet]

Base is stirke so she can do damage when is reduce

[neon prawn]

ok gear?

[graceful pike]

how many pts again

[neon prawn]

wdym

[graceful pike]

points

and stuff

[neon prawn]

doesn't the pic show points

[graceful pike]

i meant the one from 0-1000

[neon prawn]

480k

[graceful pike]

str

dammit

i forgot XD

[neon prawn]

oh str

[haughty haven]

Which one ?

[neon prawn]

does the dr work on max moves

[graceful pike]

N

[haughty haven]

800

[graceful pike]

how many nukes did it take

[haughty haven]

3 Sync from Courtney to almost kill N

[graceful pike]

no sync from leon?

[haughty haven]

No

[graceful pike]

hmm

role doesn't change a lot

[haughty haven]

I used dps grid

[graceful pike]

ic

[haughty haven]

the grid

Bc my Leon is 4/5 so i can burn aoe

[graceful pike]

[arctic quest]

Hello high scorers how are we going in here

[rough forum]

55 spa for critastrophe 2% and a situational 5%... yuck

If it was 60-65 I'd say it's fine

[rough forum]

I got done with it in 1 hour so I'm happy

[arctic quest]

Nice

[rough forum]

Hbu arch, are you done already?

[arctic quest]

I did them at 0 str for now going to do a proper run later when I have some more time

Was lurking to steal some teams

[rough forum]

Here's mine, aside the N one they took 3-5 tries at most each

[arctic quest]

Neat thanks

[rough forum]

The N one sadly has a lot of variance because of Def drops and bulldoze rolls

[arctic quest]

How much str?

[neon prawn]

is the maxie team regular Cyn

[rough forum]

Yes

[rough forum]

If you go 450-480 STR it'll be free tho, I wanted to maximize it

[neon prawn]

oooo I couldn't use normal Cyn well against maxie so may I get the grids

[neon prawn]

where's the sp def dropper in the leon team btw

[rough forum]

350/320/350/300/515

[arctic quest]

Got it thanks

[rough forum]

Mind games 2 ciris

[rough forum]

It's a 3/5 grid lol

[neon prawn]

I wanna know the strat and exact grid composition if possible because I wanna raise my maxie score

[rough forum]

Actually nvm

The only reason it's not a 3/5 grid

Is that it's 8 energy uncap

[rough forum]

Is your Cyn uncapped? 4/5?

[neon prawn]

3/5

[rough forum]

If she's only 3/5 you can probably still clear

[neon prawn]

I haven't used cyn in years at this point

[rough forum]

My grid was

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/9100/44500?s=3&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFERQXGBshIiMoKi8wMTIz

This one

But you can likely still clear with this

[neon prawn]

thx

[rough forum]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/9100/44500?s=3&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBgkRHh8gISIjKCouLzAxMjM

This likely clears just as well

You'll miss out on a bit of DPS

But it shouldn't change the fight that much

[neon prawn]

what strength btw

[rough forum]

.

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/10800/53000?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBhEUFRgaHB8iIyQ

This was ingos grid

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/15400/45001?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBggTFBwdHyEjJScqKyw

Berthas

The idea is dropping ACC on Groudon so bertha can dodge and max defences asap

While self sustaining

I got 2 pot mprs so I ended up with all 3 at full

[severe pollen]

For the HS, should I 3/5 SC Lyra, NY Clair, or Rika? All 3 are 1/5 EX, with only Rika having her EXR

my teams for reference; all of my limiteds except a 1/5 Lance are in this screenshot

[tidal pine]

I think I'll do more when my top 100 spot feels threatened

do note I haven't done much candy investments before starting this

[main pulsar]

Damn 1/5 Cynthia goes that high?

[night sleet]

Its about get full hp in the end

Since its more focus on it

[mortal timber]

The parameter I dislike the most sadly

So unfair

[cyan tusk]

You can still nuke mid with Bertha

[glossy ravine]

Yeah you can do about what

900 strength with them?

I was gonna up more as well

Also I think I can't top 100 this

Too much of my shit is missing dupes to make it work

lol

and I'm almost dropping off even at 420k

[rough forum]

Rika is sadly a unit that wants 3/5 a ton

So she's definitely the better investment

Her unit is really sad from a new player POV

Pretty bad 1/5, wants EXR a ton, wants deluxes or 4/5 to not fuck up your cycles

She's really great once invested but imo her base kit EXr-less is one of the weakest we got recently

[cunning shore]

I already feel threatened

100k across the board
Except that sadistic Zinnia

I am considering maybe going for lower str and try to max hp

Idk anymore

[acoustic quarry]

tchad

[tough briar]

@tidal pine share all 5 teams please?

[onyx crystal]

High Scorers

• 535,572 @cyan tusk
• #1128052735967764621 message
• 518,940 @long oyster
• #1128052735967764621 message
• 518,757 @static oar
• #1128052735967764621 message
• 517,749 @mortal timber
• #1128052735967764621 message
• 516,393 @cunning shore
• #1011213509071208451 message
• 500,037 @haughty haven
• #1128052735967764621 message
• 459,603 @oak fulcrum
• #1128052735967764621 message
• 430,467 @forest panther
• #1128052735967764621 message
• 406,889 @glossy ravine
• #1128052735967764621 message
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• #1128052735967764621 message
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• #1020530656767385720 message

[tough briar]

Well the absolute top 5 doesn't help me since I don't have 3/5+ everything

[onyx crystal]

Pykuo was the only person who submitted a score. I just browsed for the others.

[rough forum]

@onyx crystal 400/320/350/300/515

[main pulsar]

Hard worker

We appreciate you

[outer whale]

the fact that's 350 and still hits 60k is insane

[main pulsar]

[rough forum]

Yeah I'm wrong

It's 400 on maxie

350 on zinnia lol

LLance is just very nice

[cyan tusk]

There should be @night sleet above me

[onyx crystal]

his shit ain't in one post

[main pulsar]

[rough forum]

[main pulsar]

Too much work

@night sleet oi put it in one place

[rough forum]

Thanks sages as always 🙏

[rough forum]

Tbfh it's more annoying how a 300 is almost equal to 350 and 320 is over that 350

Just because of time parameter

Because zerena needs 2 syncs and some attacks to kill mid

[cunning shore]

Not only time parameters

But health too

You get 2 parameters

Higher

That's why at lower STRs

You can get better with the lower STR

Once you hit around 800-100
It won't matter as much (but still will)

[storm vector]

other people: runs balanced teams that fit the gimmick of each stage very well, therefore allowing them to get a high score
me: sst red bp zinnia drasna go

(for nita)

[rough forum]

At 3-400 tbfh

Time is extremely annoying

Because you get really gutted as 2:30-4 mins is already down to 1.5-1.9k points out of 3k

[cunning shore]

And that why I always ignore time parameters

[rough forum]

So hp and # attacks is imo the best way to optimize between 300 and 600 STR

Time will only help for sub 300 STR

I never ever went past 600 STR aside on water and water fairy HSE

Now that I have 3/5 cerena, dahlia and ssmina I'd rank easily in top 20-50 not only in top 100

[cunning shore]

It's not always same params tho

[haughty haven]

• Maxie 1000 Str
• Nita 650 Str
• Zinnia 700 Str
• SS Leon 630 Str
• N 800 Str

@onyx crystal can you update to this ?

[hollow prism]

Yo Bicio can you chill on the move levels 😭

[haughty haven]

Just more details and grid

[hollow prism]

What tf are all those 5s

[outer whale]

got 72K on Zinnia

[night sleet]

Not bad 72k

[night sleet]

Im too shy too post🙂‍↔️

[main pulsar]

Wild

Zerena just a bad unit :3

Muahahahahajahaa

[night sleet]

Zinnia is too hard stage

[hollow prism]

Also i just got NY Clair 2/5 on Mix, i have a support candy

Do i go all in or save it for later

[night sleet]

Ny clair? Not worth it

[hollow prism]

Yeah i was hoping yall would convince me not to

[outer whale]

Wow..... My N team is borked

[hollow prism]

Link wtf does borked mean

💀

[outer whale]

did i stutter?

[hollow prism]

I have never heard that word in my life

[night sleet]

Ny clair is one off sups wat are ussles

[hollow prism]

Wait what? Is clair rly not used

The issue is i have no Lyra

So

[night sleet]

Only place where you can use i leon

But she dont have spe def

So is ussles

[haughty haven]

My problem with hs is lack of flinch pair

[hollow prism]

Flinch once again proving it is the most busted thing in the game

[night sleet]

My problem is no motivation score more haha

😂

[haughty haven]

I remember you said almost the same thing at Ghost/Dark HS

[night sleet]

I could do 600k but why i need it haha

[hollow prism]

Because funny 600k club

[night sleet]

You was complain i score low then you

I already member 600k

Lol

[haughty haven]

I might never reach 600k

[night sleet]

First in the world i was haha

[haughty haven]

Too poor and lazy for it

[hollow prism]

At least i have my 523k in solo grass to lean on

[night sleet]

Who reach 600k

Nobody did it befor me😂

[cyan tusk]

Hey
No

[hollow prism]

💀

Bro my supports are all 1/5 this sucks ass

[cyan tusk]

Btw it’s all mix stuff

I just gave rika a candy

[haughty haven]

550 on Zinnia is …… understandable

[cyan tusk]

To 3/5

[hollow prism]

I have 1/5 Rika 1/5 Ingo 1/5 Pallow

[cyan tusk]

That’s it

And arc units ofc

[night sleet]

Supps are key units in game

[hollow prism]

I’m poor on candies

[haughty haven]

1/5 Mallow still really good tho

[night sleet]

I have 32 gold candy😎

[hollow prism]

Yeah ik

[haughty haven]

For fast clear ofc

[hollow prism]

Mallow is gonna have to break her back HARD

[haughty haven]

1/5 Rika in the other hand

[hollow prism]

Rika is deadass prob not getting used

[night sleet]

Rika even 1/5 can do some work

[hollow prism]

Idk where tf i put her

[haughty haven]

As 2nd supp

[night sleet]

Since hear main stuff recup is 5/5

[hollow prism]

I have no Lyra

So i’m in bone city

[night sleet]

Rika is best for n stage

But need exr

[outer whale]

this N team is genuinely destroying him and it's freaking hilarious

81K at 600 str

[night sleet]

N is not hard

Like maxie

Leon too

Nita is hard

Most extreme is zinnia

[hollow prism]

Nita i have the required units

Have we tried Lucas on Zinnia? Or is there an issue with that

[night sleet]

Issue is dragon zone

[hollow prism]

Does she spam only dragon moves or can we do a little trolling and dodge her sync

[night sleet]

She spam dragon moves

[hollow prism]

Oh ffs

[night sleet]

Use dragon zone on zinnia? Kinda big risk need super good timming

[haughty haven]

My problem with Zinnia is mix Attacker with 2 different type

[night sleet]

And para luck or miss flinch

[haughty haven]

Very anoying to tank

Maxie is Mix attacker but he only uses fire move

Nita, N only use Physical

[night sleet]

Maxie is super easy if have arc cynthia

[haughty haven]

Leon only uses Special

Zinnia tho

Fk her

[night sleet]

N is roxane

[haughty haven]

Crunch + Dragon Pulse

And DA on top

[night sleet]

Issue is after scync zinnia

Her 4 gauge move

[outer whale]

88K at 650 str.

[haughty haven]

That is DA

And yes fk that

No Max Guard, no flinch, no dodge ?

Bye your tank

[outer whale]

I'm starting to get into potion refresh territory now.

700 str

Will work on this another time, but very reliable clear, just need pot mpr

[night sleet]

Even nc blue max def zinnia low max attacks cant take it on 800 str haha

[night sleet]

Not bad not bad

Better use lyra rika and roxane

[outer whale]

Rika's 1/5

so lol

[night sleet]

Dc wally is uslles

Roxane low attack too

[outer whale]

DC wally was lowering defense.

[night sleet]

She can too

[outer whale]

faster

[night sleet]

No need

[outer whale]

Also, DC wally is battle facility foe

so more pts

[hollow prism]

I’m trying to beat Maxie at 1k before he lands a single sync

Because i’m an idiot

[night sleet]

No chance do it

[hollow prism]

And i’m getting close

I could prob do it at 800

[outer whale]

I just have Nita and SS Leon left

[night sleet]

At 800 maybe i did 1000 str and no way do it

[outer whale]

SS Leon is going to be fun lmao

[cyan tusk]

I was so close to get a 100K on zinnia

BUT THANKS RANDOM CRIT, A LOT

[night sleet]

I hate zinnia

Or crit or no pots

[cyan tusk]

I also got all potions

[night sleet]

Go go bicio gog

We suport you😘

[cyan tusk]

I swear that stage has hidden crit rate up

[outer whale]

Nita is pain

[cyan tusk]

Got crit twice in a row……

[rough forum]

Last N side critting EQ on Courtney at 5% moment

[outer whale]

WELL THEN...

i'm kinda..... 👀

Str:
Maxie: 525
Nita: 475
Zinnia: 475
Leon: 750
N: 700

I can easily push that to 400k

the SS Leon and N battle, Easily can get that to 100K

do I WANT to? maybe Lance's team

[cyan tusk]

If you have champion Iris swap Nita with her and you’ll get more points on Nita

[outer whale]

nah.

Tried that, ran out of gauge

[night sleet]

Need have twotter on gio

No gauge issue:)

[outer whale]

then no sync

[night sleet]

Extra orb😘

[outer whale]

out of orbs lmao

[night sleet]

Ehh

[outer whale]

anyways, hit 400k

Oh that's cute..... that'll be gone in like 30 mins.

[night sleet]

Lol crazy dabbo 2.0

Fight fight 😘

[outer whale]

i'll see what happens, who knows, maybe arc cynthia in a daily lmao

[night sleet]

Some got it saw

For me never happend

[onyx crystal]

No Adaman in sight?

[outer whale]

I only have 2/5, but i really don't know where to exactly put him

[onyx crystal]

I’m guessing without 2x LB9 he’s gonna get KOd by a 1000 str sync.

[outer whale]

well not only that, but you have to lower your HP to do more damage...... on a event where you need as much HP as possible for points.

[cunning shore]

Do you think 470k is safe top 100?

Oh sage made a list
I can update with strs

Let me go click

[night sleet]

Prob yes

Hard tell wat can happend

[cunning shore]

650 strs can score nearly same as 800 strs
Goddamn
Still Zinnia hard with 550 what the heck

[cyan tusk]

I have a 800 zinnia clear but hey I had 1 unit with 1 hp left

[outer whale]

right now, 400K is top 100

[cyan tusk]

So basically trash

🚮

[west pier]

How can I improve

Serena is the only caked

[tidal pine]

I think I should leave my before potentially additional investment team here

For Strength I picked:
Maxie 900
Nita 775
Zinnia 500
Leon 600
N 775

also, I swear I'm like the unluckiest person ever with some of the clears

[hasty zenith]

I feel that when Dragapult (Leon stage) uses surf, waaay too often

the only aoe in this battle ig

[outer whale]

How difficult was that maxie battle?

[tidal pine]

had to rely on some dodges