It it wasn’t for the tech bonus I’d run Cynthia with 2 supports
#High Score
paper mist
I think Leon being dragon weak means you could actually save Lance for someone else since the extra damage plus 2-3 rebuff seems like a lot
especially if you put him under zone
cyan tusk
That’s why I say 4 1K
And the 5th being… Nate 
I don’t know yet if FRoxanne or NcNate can score 1K in non super effective stages
paper mist
i think nate will be able to against leon
hollow prism
You take that back Emboar was the F2P GOAT in Fire
cyan tusk
Nope bc the only one scoring more than 90K was runner with that, and it wasn’t any skyrocketing dmg 
hollow prism
I did 70k with Hilda and 2 gen pools
I totally could have done more if i used good units instead
I was using 4* Blaine and tanking with base Kiawe 💀
cyan tusk
Btw ppl playing arc Cynthia/Lance on hse should take into account the rebuff effect and using them on ground/dragon stages.. I know Cynthia is weird bc she sets ground zone against ground types 
But Lance can be used against dragon types
hollow prism
Tbh what are you doing if ur not using Arc Cynthia or Lance for HSE lets be real
cyan tusk
Dc
Trying lg solos
Just casually flexing then
hollow prism
Ew DC bad
Colress after tanking the 18th consecutive DC stage and being forced to use TWave 16905 times in a month:
cyan tusk
Only bc 5/5 oleana is expensive
hollow prism
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Bro took a clip of the Pokearth video and made it a gif
hollow prism
Some JP artist made an animation of Akari studying Spheals in the dex while they roll up on her, idk if you’ve seen that one
hollow prism
Ye
paper mist
Btw ppl playing arc Cynthia/Lance on hse should take into account the rebuff eff...
see this is why I think cynthia is best for Maxie out of her and Nita, because while Nita's fight has multiple ground moves that will be buffed by zone, maxie's only ground move is his own sync, so with fire guard the only move you won' be protected against is Rock Slide, and if you kill it before mid dies you don't even gotta worry about that, while Nita's fight has ground, rock, fighting, dark, fairy and psychic moves all coming at you, making the positive ground rebuff less effective
cyan tusk
But I don’t know if rebuff goes to sync too
paper mist
the ingame text simply says damage rather than attacks or moves and that the reduction can't be ignored by Crits
haughty haven
Unlike guard Ls
paper mist
paper mist
It reduces Sync dmg
so all the more reason to use cynthia against maxie or nita, and lance against the other 3
well, but Leon having a Max move kinda leans towards Lance's positive rebuff being the best for him, if you can't run a damage guard
haughty haven
Without vs With
mortal timber
Type rebuff positive is huge
haughty haven
paper mist
tho if you have both aslance and nate i'd probably say use nate on leon and lance somewhere else since nate gets nerfed by zinnia and n while aslance has hyper beam and b move to get around zinnia
cyan tusk
Rebuff meta incoming
night sleet
Yeap lance and cynthia will cary teams
paper mist
make sure you get the normal/bug/rock/poison/flying/ice/fighting/steel Arc Pairs for the next HSes :)
assuming they don't repeat types
balmy yarrow
I’ll suffer from lack of Arc Dragonite
paper mist
I might suffer from it too, I have to daily lance and lear and hope I get them before the hse ends or before they leave cause I can only get 1 unless they come in the first multi 
and i really dont wanna buy gems to pity both
cyan tusk
make sure you get the normal/bug/rock/poison/flying/ice/fighting/steel Arc Pairs...
Why are we excluding reruns of water fire grass psychic ghost dark and fairy?
night sleet
Water and fairy sure not back soon
But rest can be any time
They can back to mono types also since we run out 2 soon
paper mist
someone suggested Water only reran because we had uneven types, after that we have an even number
8 types left
outer whale
It begins.
paper mist
can't wait to see the double lines of
F
F
F
F
paper mist
outer whale
Physical Damage reduced / Strikers stats reduced
oak fulcrum
they are trying so hard to make lodge rika relevant
outer whale
Vgio DPS baybee
hollow prism
Is BASE rika even relevant? Lol
outer whale
Icy Wind 
hollow prism
1 use of ground zone is 🤡
oak fulcrum
but it's 2 uses with exr
outer whale
^^^
hollow prism
Field zone is even worse
paper mist
Why are stages 3 and 5 so hard specifically
majority of ground pairs are physical, lot of syncs on both are physical too
a lot of the limited damage dealers are strikers too
outer whale
It's even funnier that it's Zinnia, and she basically says, Arc units, Lol Physical damage reduction
hollow prism
What even are your dragon options without strikes? Lucas? 😭
Or Iris
ASLance if you’re rich and have the gems
paper mist
Lucas, CIris, ASLance, BTLeon, Drasna, Ryuki, Vance, Anni Raihan, Lisia, BP Zinnia (lol), DC Wally
outer whale
Ciris, Lucas, SS Leon, Anni Raihan, Zerena, Kommo- 
and DC Wally
paper mist
SSLeon, Zerena and Kommo-o are strike
outer whale
oh, i was thinking Physical Damage reduction
paper mist
Linkable gonna lose their Helper status smh
outer whale
Linkable gonna lose their Helper status smh
People say this literally every time.
paper mist
outer whale
Oh incorrect info. OFF WITH HIS HELP
hollow prism
It would be funny
paper mist
we?
outer whale
right, you. 
paper mist
reminds me, if you don't have much but you do have Rika you could pair her with Drasna to get easier Poison for some of Rika's passives
like Noxious Hit for the offensive debuffs
outer whale
I love how everyone BUT Zinnia will be easy. Zinnia is just: How can i make your run a living hell?
paper mist
idk why but I keep thinking Drasna has Mind Games or something similar, but all she has his Hit Poisoned Opp: Stat ⬇️ 9 which is RNG
shy flower
Oh incorrect info. OFF WITH HIS HELP
As we all know, Helpers can't spread misinformation 
To the plank with ye!
paper mist
well, a budget option for Leon if you have Rika can be Drasna + Rika + some SpDef debuffer like Wally
grand perch
… wait
Oh I guess I’ll depend on Zerena or SSynthia then for Zinia
Hope they don’t suck there lol
outer whale
DC wally it is
paper mist
yeah paralysis with mixed offenses says Wally to me (but needs 3/5 unless Ciris is there)
shy flower
*Focus: Paralysis*
V Lance lfg
paper mist
I think maybe Ciris could be a D- for Zinnia purely because she's one of the few that can lower both offenses and maybe flinch away the dragon ascents if you've got 4/5, and with special attack buffs she could chip away with snarl
paper mist
https://tenor.com/view/sculpting-mr-crocker-the-fairly-oddparents-you-get-an-f-you-fail-gif-20196821
cyan tusk
Is BASE rika even relevant? Lol
Base rika is like 2nd best support we have for this hse
Imo best option is mallow bc dragon pulse staggering 4 
cyan tusk
I love how everyone BUT Zinnia will be easy. Zinnia is just: How can i make your...
She is physical -80% BUT she’s gonna throw a post mega dragon ascent
Zinnia has 1 dragon ascent iirc
Which is gonna be flinched/protected 🙂🙂🙂🙂
outer whale
Dragon ascent does lower her defenses iirc
cyan tusk
Yes it does but it’s one of the highest bp moves
cyan tusk
Guys imo it’s just 1 dragon ascent
paper mist
cyan tusk
Otherwise she would be using X att all and X Sp atk all again? I don’t think so
It’s gonna be 1 post mega
paper mist
hopefully its 1 use
but its listed in her pre mega list too soooooooooo reset for DA to be used pre-mega if no flinch
cyan tusk
Hype up 9 can be avoided depends on the team
outer whale
What are the Bonus points? i know one is tech/champion, but is there a condition we need to apply?
paper mist
Anni Raihan, Lisia, BP Zinnia also all have Flinch
cyan tusk
What are the Bonus points? i know one is tech/champion, but is there a condition...
It’s tech AND champion
1K and 1K
paper mist
there's no status thing bonus for this HS
outer whale
OH.
cyan tusk
Anni raihan might not be a bad idea also there bc of mixed attacks to be debuffed
I mean sync is still special
paper mist
yeah 4/5 raihan can be useful there
you know, raihan + vgio could be good there cause all of Gio's moves get buffed in Sand and he has Icy Wind for Zinnia
(also applies to Nita fight but add Water for Nita herself)
cyan tusk
I don’t see VGio being efficient without B move, his dps is too big to use secondary moves
But that stage wants special damage, sooo
hollow prism
DC wally it is
If you unironically use DCWally that’s a 24 hr block
paper mist
i mean a lot of people ain't gonna have a choice
roster's pretty limited this time (again)
hollow prism
But the DC units are so bad
paper mist
hey, sometimes HSE requires you to use less than good pairs 
hollow prism
Drake
paper mist
except drake
hollow prism
💀
paper mist
(unironically drake will be decent for Zinnia cause he actually buffs both defenses)
hollow prism
Bro it’s fkn drake 
hollow prism
Like i get it but the copium is high
paper mist
I'm not using him, personally
paper mist
yeah but if you don't have enough ground pairs you'll have to turn to dragon to fill in the rest
or take the hit in points and bring out NCBlue/ASSteven again
hollow prism
Or Leaf
paper mist
gottem
hollow prism
For this HS it’s Blue or Steven, but Leaf is usually better to pick up slack in damage dealing
paper mist
og Lance could be higher vs Zinnia if you bring someone else to sync, Hyper Beam is his main damage anyway
outer whale
Oh..... my god.
Guys, there are only 9 supports for both dragon and Ground combined 
Dragon has 4
paper mist
correct
guess how many of them are f2p friendly
|| 2 ||
its nita and drake btw and nita is sorta limited
Clair and Pallow? Seasonal
Cynthia and Lance? Requires base pair who are PF
Ingo, Rika, Brendan? PF
Lyra? SC
paper mist
Guys, there are only 9 supports for both dragon and Ground combined <:CyrusSweat...
wait not correct, its 10
outer whale
who's the 10th?
outer whale
Do you think folks will be able to get him during HSE?
oak fulcrum
yeah it shouldn't be that hard because HSE didn't start a week ago
paper mist
it depends on how bad your luck is
cause HS is exactly 2 weeks long
and if you get unlucky with Lance leaving early it could take more than 2 weeks
it took me more than 2 for Kabu and Iono because they wouldn't stop leaving at 85% or 92% 
but on average? yeah I think most people will get him in time
acoustic quarry
Is there a flat answer to whos beter 3/5 between Arc Lance and Arc Cynthia is it revolves around what you play with it ? 🤔
paper mist
most woud say cynthia since she provides more utility than lance and there's more accessible dragon options than there are ground
outer whale
Is there a flat answer to whos beter 3/5 between Arc Lance and Arc Cynthia is it...
it's kind of hard to say right now, RKS Lance could be fine at 1/5 but Arc Cynthia does really want 3/5 for her sync damage
paper mist
lance's true b move damage is also unknown atm
outer whale
that's the biggest thing rn
we have to wait until he's released to know if 1/5 is fine for his B move
acoustic quarry
👍 thanks boyz
outer whale
all ground supports are ranked and..... yeesh
outer whale
Lyra's..... not even that good ngl 
paper mist
better than nothing
the supports might make higher strs much harder to do this time around
shy flower
Lyra's..... not even that good ngl <:GretaCringe:998042709291978812>
Lyra's great trust 
Gonna get top 100||000|| with her
oak fulcrum
it's because he cleared Lucy UB isn't it
oh it is literally because vs nita is the mini-nita ub
outer whale
All ground types ranked.... and.... yep...
paper mist
will give a look tomorrow 🫡
outer whale
is this accurate?
paper mist
for btleon, yeah
neon prawn
can anyone help me plan pls? except Lance (whose 1/5) all are 3/5 minimum. Nate is 5/5, all free pairs except nita and ryuki are 5/5. Ciris is 4/5. Most are ex but I am willing to ex if I need to ex someone whose not exed
I assume I throw ciris at N?
who do I throw Nate at for 1k
neon prawn
Nate with brendan or ss wally
neon prawn
zinnia/n counter him and maxie/nita dont have anything dragon weak
why did zinnia have phys move dr....
neon prawn
unless you need him for zinnia
zinnia I can use ssc even if she won't get much
so Leon
Nate, wally and?
neon prawn
zinnia I can use ssc even if she won't get much
or ss Leon
paper mist
yeah, was saying might need wally cause her fight uses both types of attacks and at 3/5 he can debuff both which like 2? others can consistently do
outer whale
can anyone help me plan pls? except Lance (whose 1/5) all are 3/5 minimum. Nate ...
HSE doesn't start till 10 days from now
don't worry too much on it for right now
paper mist
you'll have 2 weeks to do it youll be fine
outer whale
if it helps, I have all thr ground units ranked right now in the doc, but i don't have dragon done yet.
haughty haven
@outer whale i think SC Lyra should be S against Nita and N tho
She is one of the best physical tank
neon prawn
then won't plan until hse reset
always happens with other hse
paper mist
I have some thoughts and mentions as well but I'll just wait til the doc is done to give the rest of my input
haughty haven
- Against Nita: she ofc will dead by 1 special side mon, but other sidemon and Nita only use Physical, and Lyra also debuff speed
- Against N: She tank super well bc ofc, that stage only has Physical
neon prawn
I think ss Leon will be goated here
paper mist
yeah, against us
paper mist
roxanne debuffs all buffs on sync for the entire enemy side and iirc nita's fight has the most buffs in it
outer whale
i'm not doing S+ yet
haughty haven
roxanne debuffs all buffs on sync for the entire enemy side and iirc nita's figh...
Yeah but Roxanne ontype N
And Roxanne debuff Speed anyway
paper mist
you can ontype n with other ground pairs
if claydol lives too long it gets +2 to a bunch of stats on top of speed buffs + ramming speed-boosted stored power
haughty haven
Nita has: X Speed, X Attack, X Def, X Spdef
paper mist
roxanne turns all those buffs into debuffs on every sync
outer whale
Foxanne has No stat field
haughty haven
F Roxanne already debuffs 3/4 stats by her self
neon prawn
I wish I had foxanne....
paper mist
only at 3/5, and she turns the stat buffs into debuffs which you can use to your advantage
haughty haven
So unless you cant keep up with speed buff, her reverse stats isn’t that great
paper mist
she also needs 3/5 for the attack debuffs, if you have her less than 3/5 its useful to point out still
haughty haven
1/5 Roxanne is different than 3/5
But for that sheet we should discuss max investment pair
paper mist
it literally mentions that you need specific move levels for certain stuff on every pair
outer whale
Og the misery.
paper mist
if its max investment only then there is no point in mentioning "you need 2/5 to max defense" but its included cause not everyone has every pair at 3/5 or 5/5 or can afford it, the doc is not just for whales its for everyone to try and make teams with what they got
haughty haven
But the point should be at highest investment
neon prawn
Og the misery.
Nate is gonna be in F twice because of zinnia and N .....sad
@outer whale does the list assume max investment btw
outer whale
It lists out the move level needed for each ability.
haughty haven
How about the rank ?
I know you list what move level have
Like SC Lyra cant debuff speed at 1/5, so she’ll only A+ against Nita, but with it she definitely S
outer whale
paper mist
i mean there's multiple sections in the doc pointing out little difference and highlighting that you may need to invest for X Y Z benefits
haughty haven
So the rank is for max investment or ?
outer whale
the rank is overall performance.
paper mist
rank is still useful for determining overall usefuless, a 1/5 S rank is still gonna be more useful than an F rank 5/5
neon prawn
Wdym by overall performance
outer whale
the only time i will do a min and max difference are the legendary adventure units
(Cyrus)
paper mist
neon prawn
how do you determine the overall of an unit
haughty haven
Sadly he wasn’t good at Dark/Ghost Hs
outer whale
~~Sadly he wasn’t good at Dark/Ghost Hs~~
i mean Palkia
neon prawn
~~Sadly he wasn’t good at Dark/Ghost Hs~~
ss Cyrus wasn't good in dark ghost hse?
outer whale
how do you determine the overall of an unit
As what is in their kit overall and how overall useful it is as a whole. It's why most of the A ranks you saw that you wanted S were A
haughty haven
Cant wait to miss HydroPump
Btw Rika’s score is kinda low tho
I know about Maxie and Nita, but what about other 3
neon prawn
As what is in their kit overall and how overall useful it is as a whole. It's wh...
ahh k
Where will maxie go?
haughty haven
No where
outer whale
I know about Maxie and Nita, but what about other 3
Zinnia is more prone to paralysis while N is more prone to burn which could be a hassle for Rika since she wants to poison
paper mist
problem with rika is that nearly every fight packs some sort of Ground move cause EQ/Bulldoze is just everywhere which makes Zone an issue to use
neon prawn
Zinnia is more prone to paralysis while N is more prone to burn which could be a...
what poison tiles does she have?
outer whale
it's her B move
paper mist
so I can see why she can't be S rank in any fight since she can be detrimental to your team even outside of nita/maxie
haughty haven
problem with rika is that nearly every fight packs some sort of Ground move caus...
But most states only have EQ after Mid dead tho
neon prawn
Yes but she doesn't benefit from poison so the unit applying the optimal status can status without issue
paper mist
she's still s rank in the wife category though 
neon prawn
you won't use her b move early anyways imo
outer whale
she also has noxious hit 9
neon prawn
it's an optional grid tile
haughty haven
But compared her to other supp
paper mist
its more consistent than relying on, uh gimmie a sec
haughty haven
I dont see why she has same score as L Cynthia against Zinnia tho
haughty haven
Wait what
outer whale
Lodge cynthia has Group Water Guard which helps with sidemon Surfs
neon prawn
But compared her to other supp
isn't the only other limited pf support lyra?
haughty haven
isn't the only other limited pf support lyra?
Yes, but SC Lyra can only tank against Physical
SS Brendan good overall
neon prawn
Lodge cynthia has Group Water Guard which helps with sidemon Surfs
when do they click surf
haughty haven
Ingo very easy to die tho
paper mist
also Lodge Cynthia can be counted since you need a base PF to get her
haughty haven
After mid died
haughty haven
Ingo cant reliable buff Defensive stat
outer whale
when do they click surf
they have 1 use before Mid is KOed
paper mist
mostly against Leon, yeah
haughty haven
And no Defensive stat for allies
outer whale
then after is Surf spam
haughty haven
paper mist
he can buff team physical defense but its double RNG
first the 50% chance of it activating on hit then another roll if it buffs both defenses or only spdef
ss brendan i mean
haughty haven
Brendan tank SpDef super well, and he +4 SpDef so he is great for Leon
outer whale
keep in mind, i have yet to touch much of dragon supports
haughty haven
But Ingo feel kinda bad ngl
outer whale
i've only done Lodge Lance lmao
haughty haven
Ofc Sandstorm is excellent again Maxie
sullen pier
Lodge Lance 
neon prawn
ss brendan i mean
I love gambling.
haughty haven
Well hello 🐤con
neon prawn
When does Lance drop in lodge
haughty haven
This reset
neon prawn
gonna work on lodge Lance now
sullen pier
Well hello 🐤con
haughty haven
How is your pull going, will you get Lance ?
neon prawn
pallow looks very good tbh considering the params
haughty haven
haughty haven
pallow looks very good tbh considering the params
Yes, but she kinda like SC Lyra
neon prawn
the params are
time trial
attacks
hp left
right?
haughty haven
Really well against Physical
sullen pier
How is your pull going, will you get Lance ?
Nah, I'm saving for now
||Considering pitying Steven for dupes 
||
haughty haven
Nah, I'm saving for now
||Considering pitying Steven for dupes <:MalvaReckless:1...
giàu
5/5 ?
neon prawn
she has great healing looks good against zinnia who I think is physical?
haughty haven
sullen pier
outer whale
Omg, hold up, i might get NY Clair if i can candy her to 3/5
neon prawn
Nah, I'm saving for now
||Considering pitying Steven for dupes <:MalvaReckless:1...
it's only gonna take a year to 5/5 him. Don't do it
outer whale
👀
sullen pier
5/5 ?
worst case scenario i will throw 2 candies at him for 4/5. I dont really care about Sync Burst
sullen pier
How are you doing, very tempted to pull on Cynthia
outer whale
Dailying 
sullen pier
and suffering
neon prawn
I am suffering
haughty haven
I have Cynthia already, she is 2/5 rn. Steven ate more than 30k gems and i cant see him so high chance i’ll pity him
outer whale
you know what i find hilarious
paper mist
that lodge lance is meh
outer whale
"Man, NY clair will be great for Maxie. he has sun!"
haughty haven
Nah
sullen pier
I have Cynthia already, she is 2/5 rn. Steven ate more than 30k gems and i cant ...
You are even luckier than me 
haughty haven
She sucks again Maxie
sullen pier
**"Man, NY clair will be great for Maxie. he has sun!"**
dies from a fire punch
paper mist
lil dudes called Solar Flare 2 and Charging Sun 2:
haughty haven
Unless you want to use Ground Zone
sullen pier
outer whale
Maxie:
haughty haven
And shutdown Sun
sullen pier
I thought Maxie doesn't have any Ground moves
sullen pier
Oh huh aside from the sync
neon prawn
**"Man, NY clair will be great for Maxie. he has sun!"**
does he have multipliers
haughty haven
I thought Maxie doesn't have any Ground moves
Yes, only Sync is Ground
paper mist
except sync but yes
sullen pier
I thought he would use Camerupt 
haughty haven
I thought he would use Camerupt <:CourtneyBruh:600788593622908933>
All stage use legendary
paper mist
but clair is still bad because she doesn't protect against Sun-boosted passives, only protects against Sun-boosted Fire
neon prawn
they wanted all legendary hse
sullen pier
neon prawn
He's handsome tho
outer whale
it's electric
paper mist
its not like any pairs are gonna be Electric weak here
neon prawn
well it's better for anyone whose fighting him with dragon zone but why .....?
haughty haven
- N during Dark/Ghost Hs: haha suffer
- N during Dragon/Ground Hs: haha suffer
neon prawn
I don't get it
outer whale
N: I'm dragon type but:
neon prawn
????
paper mist
Paralysis time 
neon prawn
is dragon zone free against him?
outer whale
yes
haughty haven
N: gotta para this funny tank
neon prawn
Lucas looks kinda pog there
paper mist
your only option is Lucas though who is better off in other places
cause lol striker rule for nate
haughty haven
But he’s Ground weaks so
neon prawn
Cynthia is not base strike
haughty haven
Arc Cynthia’ll destroy N asap
neon prawn
damn, is he the stage Cynthia is supposed to destroy?
outer whale
CNate will be best for SS Leon if he can KO him tbh
paper mist
the game wants Attack debuffs and Burn
neon prawn
CNate will be best for SS Leon if he can KO him tbh
Can't see why c Nate won't nuke Leon
outer whale
neon prawn
Nate has very high burst
paper mist
since N stage is all Physical the burn reduction will reduce all their damage
outer whale
either you nuke him, or he nukes you
haughty haven
Ngl, burn kinda funny bc it doesn’t low that much dmg
sullen pier
N is for BTLeon
N: "why do i hear toby fox music"
neon prawn
# E t e r n a b e a m
is it aoe?
sullen pier
since N stage is all Physical the burn reduction will reduce all their damage
They have lessen burn, so the atk reduction is prevented
paper mist
Ngl, burn kinda funny bc it doesn’t low that much dmg
Leon has both Burn and guaranteed AoE attack debuffs tho
paper mist
I think N has less resistant to Burn than other stages
sullen pier
# E t e r n a b e a m
O n e s h o t t a n k b e a m
paper mist
The game literally tells you to Burn him
neon prawn
does she survive his nuke even if she ignores d zone....
outer whale
N has Lessen Burn 9
neon prawn
N I hope ciris can do stuff
haughty haven
N has Lessen Burn 9 <:PrycePain:971377771987206154>
He has 9
paper mist
N has Lessen Burn 9 <:PrycePain:971377771987206154>
Why does the game outright tell you for Burn then
haughty haven
Compared to normal is 10
haughty haven
Why does the game outright tell you for Burn then
Bc they really you using BT Leon there
Already it isn’t that huge
Like trap for Nita
neon prawn
Ciris looks poggers for N
paper mist
Laptop died that’s my cue to sleep
neon prawn
Sleep is for the weak
paper mist
No tomorrow is my last day of vacation and I really do not want to spend it sleeping
neon prawn
so how scary does enemy leon look
neon prawn
his 1000 strength will be a damage race huh
paper mist
It’s unavoidable
haughty haven
Idk tbh
neon prawn
won't eternabeam just nuke your team if it's aoe?
haughty haven
Idk his Eternabeam is 1 use or unlimited
neon prawn
No way it's unlimited
paper mist
But they do tend to use them before 1st sync so your tanks are gonna suffer the combo
haughty haven
The problem is when does he use tho
Before Sync isn’t the problem
But after
Gb your tank
paper mist
Before Sync isn’t the problem
Getting hit by 2 nukes in a row isn’t a problem?
sullen pier
All max moves are single target, at least for the NPC side
outer whale
Oh hold up.
haughty haven
Getting hit by 2 nukes in a row isn’t a problem?
Unless it AOE
haughty haven
ST you still can heal up
paper mist
Nita..... <:HilbertHmm:625860604347023360>
ST tho and sides have Dashing Team 9
paper mist
Claydol will be a problem
neon prawn
pal mallow also helps with the hp remaining param
haughty haven
Claydol will be a problem
~~kill it ~~
neon prawn
she has a ton of healing
haughty haven
neon prawn
when does it attack
haughty haven
Unless you flinch Nita, Claydol’ll not move more than 2 turn
paper mist
Dazzling gleam EQ and stored power are all unlimited
haughty haven
Stored Power is really good tho, bc we already plan to debuff Nita already
paper mist
SP if you don’t get rid of the several buffs it gets, attack special attack SpDef defense speed
paper mist
If you don’t have Foxanne tho…
haughty haven
If you F Roxanne doesn’t have cake too
paper mist
Her passive is aoe without cake
outer whale
PalMallow/AltLeon/Vgio 
paper mist
haughty haven
I didn’t read all of that ofc
paper mist
Reduces stats THEN debuffs it by the Same amount to ALL opponents
haughty haven
paper mist
It’s topsy-turvy but AoE every sync
neon prawn
Did y’all not look at the screenshot I posted???
reading is cringe
haughty haven
+reading3
quartz tapirBOT
neon prawn
nita looks pain without arc cyn or foxanne
paper mist
This is how you can debuff every 5 main stat on that team which is what I kept talking about earlier smh
paper mist
Her No Stat is also on sync so you remove, debuff and prevent all at once (at 3/5 tho)
haughty haven
What we think about Anni Raihan ?
paper mist
If Claydol survives it loses all its buff and also gets its own special attack debuffed to -2 in the process for example if it used SpA All
neon prawn
any non arc cyn or foxanne counters to nita?
haughty haven
any non arc cyn or foxanne counters to nita?
BT Leon, V Gio, even L Volo if you like it
neon prawn
What we think about Anni Raihan ?
Looks best against maxie
paper mist
BTLeon too
neon prawn
BT Leon, V Gio, even L Volo if you like it
at least I have L volo from there....
haughty haven
Looks best against maxie
Yeah, he also really nice for Leon and N bc SEUN
paper mist
Leon got like -4 debuffs every attack on B move but 1 is RNG for what stat
haughty haven
He always debuff 3 stat tho
paper mist
Yeah
paper mist
The last one is rng between the 5 usual stats
neon prawn
Altleon looks great in general huh
haughty haven
Yeah, not name Zinnia ofc
neon prawn
how does ss Leon look?
paper mist
Wait he does Accuracy chance too
haughty haven
Wait he does Accuracy chance too <:BarryPogChamp:718173426199560315>
Yep, that why he can solo LA
Dodge my behate
neon prawn
We love gambling.
paper mist
BOGO 9 on every Breaking Swipe…why you gotta be 5/5 locked I want u
paper mist
2/5 
neon prawn
Really good against himself
He debuffs all 5 stats on a coinflip right?
haughty haven
SS Brendan should be S against Leon right ?
paper mist
Yeah
neon prawn
S+ imo
haughty haven
@outer whale
paper mist
Ok i sleep fr now
haughty haven
SS Wally ?
haughty haven
Idk man
haughty haven
sidemon has dazzling gleam
That not a problem for him anyway
He tanks SpA very well
neon prawn
Doesn't he debuff spa as well
haughty haven
And he literally counter Leon
haughty haven
Doesn't he debuff spa as well
*5/5
paper mist
You still wanna avoid SE damage whenever possible to survive as much as you can lol
paper mist
And his satisfied snicker is 5/5 locked
neon prawn
still Brendan should be able to heal back
haughty haven
You still wanna avoid SE damage whenever possible to survive as much as you can ...
At least that is aoe move so it isn’t hurt Brendan that much
If Moonblast that a different story
neon prawn
ss wally looks good against Leon and N imo
unfortunately I don't think he drops speed
paper mist
Zinnia too
haughty haven
Zinnia too
Nah, his Sync is physical
neon prawn
Isn't he physical sync?
haughty haven
Get him out
paper mist
Nah, his Sync is physical
Why would he be the main damage dealer
neon prawn
so pair him with something like zerena?
paper mist
He’s there to paralyze + both defenses debuff + both offenses debuff at 3/5 cause she’s Mixed
paper mist
Can’t use iris and Rika everywhere
outer whale
NGL, i don't see anything bad with DC Wally
paper mist
Same
haughty haven
The only bad thing is he need 3/5
outer whale
gonna take a break for now, will finish tomorrow morning
been doing this for 6 hours straight
neon prawn
His offensive debuff really slow
isn't it -4 on all main stats except speed st on one attack?
haughty haven
isn't it -4 on all main stats except speed st on one attack?
No, he only can choose debuff Atk or SpA
neon prawn
No, he only can choose debuff Atk or SpA
oh right d claw has ocerwhelm tile
wait wally has trip up 9?
haughty haven
Yes
neon prawn
NGL, i don't see anything bad with DC Wally
he looks good in general here. Maybe not S in anything but A in a lot
sullen pier
i don't think Wally will show up in high scorers' comps
neon prawn
Yes but for people like me with missing units he will be good
sullen pier
ofc
sullen pier
i just 3/5'd Gladion i won't be able to 3/5 him heartbroken
neon prawn
I 3/5ed him before anything else because he's ma boy
cyan tusk
Lyra's..... not even that good ngl <:GretaCringe:998042709291978812>
She is, you can use her against N 
I’m gonna read all the messages but consider Lyra also has sync dmg guard that can be timed to rank the 4 bar move
cyan tusk
Zinnia is more prone to paralysis while N is more prone to burn which could be a...
My 2 cents
Having lessen burn 9 instead of 10 isn’t what I’d call “being prone to”
neon prawn
My 2 cents
Having lessen burn 9 instead of 10 isn’t what I’d call “being prone ...
same
static oar
which units are y'all planning to cake for HSE, if any? I am planning for a!Raihan and BT Leon
I already caked SS Brendan as well
cyan tusk
Also Nyclair vs Leon I think is a waste bc she’s x defense all and Leon is special
cyan tusk
which units are y'all planning to cake for HSE, if any? I am planning for a!Raih...
I think anni raihan, Lucas, SSBrendan, and all the master fairs will be much appreciated
Don’t see bt Leon or c Iris being that useful
Oh, fall Roxanne for sure
static oar
I can choose Lucas or a!Raihan but not both
cyan tusk
She’s #1 priority
static oar
I have her all set to go!
neon prawn
which units are y'all planning to cake for HSE, if any? I am planning for a!Raih...
I think all my cakable units for this hse are caked
neon prawn
Don’t see bt Leon or c Iris being that useful
Leon looks incredible for N
cyan tusk
I can choose Lucas or a!Raihan but not both
Have you already considered this reset rally ship update?
neon prawn
and Nita
cyan tusk
Leon looks incredible for N
N is ground weak
So FRoxanne all the way
However bt Leon is good for hse as Ciris
But I don’t see their cakes being that relevant
Only this 🙈
static oar
Have you already considered this reset rally ship update?
I had considered it for sure
It feels like a big commitment to promote two Dragon techs
But that is an option for sure
neon prawn
Oh you are talking about cake worthiness
cyan tusk
I had considered it for sure
It feels like a big commitment to promote two Drago...
But that are overall great investments imo
neon prawn
imo if you have nc nate pr zerena they are very cake worthy as well
*or
especially Nate
static oar
imo if you have nc nate pr zerena they are very cake worthy as well
I have both those already
I've got basically anyone except the new arc pairs for this event
the only.other cakable units I have in Dragon or Ground are ny!Clair and SS Gio
and c!Iris
cyan tusk
I think I’m running ingo berta Cynthia against maxie tbh
cunning shore
Which Cynthia
cyan tusk
The new one
acoustic quarry
Well,l ance didn't came home
its a FF situation untill i can credit card him later in the month
It will be the 8th Pity in a row, i really don't know what DeNa did to my account fr
My fgriend got it first multi
paper mist
i'm trying to resist pulling cause I'd rather have Lear and he didn't come in a daily
acoustic quarry
I'm really surprised Lear have so much attention compare to new Arc Unit
( I know his kit is like as good as Arc but still )
sullen pier
It's mostly because the Arc pairs being reused asset
And the concept of Lear is good and fitting
acoustic quarry
Solid point ofc, but its " kinda obvious " the game will slowly tkae the arc " way " if that make sens
acoustic quarry
Not yet, and it scares me already xD
paper mist
also I have a decent Dragon roster but we don't know what Steel will be paired with
btw I kinda expect Steel HS to get announced after this one
also I wanna support the OCs in the game and Lear deserved something nice
acoustic quarry
it is true they are realeasing a lot of steel unit recently
paper mist
if you've noticed most HS share a type with a pair that recently comes out near its announcement
haughty haven
Who doesn’t have Arc Steven:
acoustic quarry
Who doesn’t have Arc Steven: <:LarryDead:1090014801654198383>
already regretting not choosing him
neon prawn
Btw do ya all think adam will come first this hse?
I think it will be adam cuz he seems to have both arc fairs
neon prawn
btw I kinda expect Steel HS to get announced after this one
same
acoustic quarry
i legit thought i was one of the onlydegen that pulled on SC Adamant but it seems there a lot of you did like me hahaha
paper mist
water was announced then we got eusine, elec was announced while nemona was running, then blue, fire was announced and leaf was leaving, grass was announced and we got hsycamore, psychic was announced while rosa was running, water/fairy was announced while gladion and dahlia were running, ghost/dark was announced literally the day brycen-man left, uhhhhhhh we're gonna ignore ground/dragon actually 
acoustic quarry
water was announced then we got eusine, elec was announced while nemona was runn...
could put hse dragon ground saw new arc unit paired with it
not a " pre shot " but a " in shot " that is as much relevant if you wanna see it like that
paper mist
they weren't running at or near the time it was announced in July tho
neon prawn
Wasn't ground dragon announced when the champions getting stronger was teased in story
paper mist
(inb4 next type is Flying bc Malva)
acoustic quarry
(inb4 next type is Flying bc Malva)
paper mist
flying/fighting better grab malva and chuck
acoustic quarry
( pls star this if next hse is flying, just so i cry )
No cap, Chuck looks amazing to me
paper mist
isn't he apparently worse than Bea
paper mist
(don't let sages see that)
neon prawn
@Sage-
outer whale
Time to continue working on HSE
neon prawn
Time to continue working on HSE
Rika s for N imo
cyan tusk
I'm really surprised Lear have so much attention compare to new Arc Unit
Lear is skyrocketing dmg tbh
And he’s long well waited steel master fair
Now next one is a bug
night sleet
I think it will be adam cuz he seems to have both arc fairs
Me no lol? Im like always going top100 its my goal
If get luck like last time and end top20 dont mind at all haha🤣
acoustic quarry
" luck " and " top 20 " in the same sentence
acoustic quarry
I don't think that top 20 that put money in the game is luck, since they put money to have thoose unit
( partially ofc, that doesn't make all ofc )
night sleet
Luck need too only units its no it
acoustic quarry
but still a huge part of it
night sleet
Last time was easy since ghost are limited and was no reruns
Now we have soo many selects
Plus 2 arc units
Score will be high
ornate turret
Nothing in top 20 is luck, at least not pure luck, anyone who is in top 20 is a whale, big one
top 100 I can see some long time f2p players getting into with some good investment and pulling the right units
but top 20 is pure cash, luck only help you move a few positions
in these kind of modes (HSE/DC) people can copy each other teams so invesments > strategies > luck
acoustic quarry
i do agree with that, thats why i was at top 20 and luck in the same sentence personaly
whole finch
Seems that Arc Cynthia needs at least 2/5 for good performance
main pulsar
Seems that Arc Cynthia needs at least 2/5 for good performance
Wdym
Man what a bad typo
For high score you want giga invest
whole finch
haughty haven
@outer whale (Lear Saved 5th Anni.) Do you count Max Guard ?
night sleet
Nothing in top 20 is luck, at least not pure luck, anyone who is in top 20 is a ...
You need luck:) since pykou is big exapel off it haha
haughty haven
Leon can give for himself and allies if you want
whole finch
Anni Raihan can do that too
haughty haven
Seeing BT Leon both A for his best 2 stage kinda weird tho
is that bc he weak to Dark ?
@outer whale
I didnt see any Aoe Dark move so idk why Leon only A tho
BT Leon dps isn't that bad, he has 200 BP ST move
Raihan my goat
cyan tusk
This hse is coming for my supp cakes
mortal timber
I am giving two cakes even if probably I won't participate on this one
Today I gave it to my 3/5 arc Cynthia
Next one soon TM
cyan tusk
I still have to decide if I wanna candy AnniRaihan or ScAdaman
Since I’ll have only 1 supp cake
And, if wanna cake btleon
I’m still salty about his ex role
mortal timber
Everyone is, for alt iris too
cyan tusk
Yes but Leon has AoE constant defense debuff and go viral 9 on will o wisp
His grid was screaming striker ex
night sleet
Not sure if adaman will be need? Maybe since have pots too many units
Anni raihan for sure since have flinch and low sts
crude iron
“I got both arcs maybe I should—“
My lack of supports on type:
cyan tusk
“I got both arcs maybe I should—“
My lack of supports on type:
Go grab Lance and Cynthia from lodge
crude iron
That’s not og lance tho
Does arc suit give lodge…?
Cause I assumed I had to have pokefair lance for lodge
cyan tusk
UPS sorry got confused
But still gastrodon is in the lodge
Consider ex Bertha as a tank
crude iron
Ngl forgot about lodge for a while so first interaction in over a month
crude iron
high score ebent rankings are done
Just used tickets to finish ryuki 3/5 so good timing lol time for me to look at that see what I got
paper mist
some thoughts:
vGio has Sand Castle (reduces damage in sand) for his defensive utility, roxanne turns any stat buffs into debuffs on sync, SSBrendan does have Defensive buffs at 3/5 with Team Tough Luck 4 but its double RNG but still allows him to tank some Physical fights, BTLeon has Flabbergast 9 (confusion) at 2/5 when using WoW and also has 50% chance for SEU which can help against Leon and N's side and max regen at 2/5 for himself, Anni Raihan has AoE Flinch on Twister and Agr2 and max wymwind for -2 for faster attack debuffing or if you don't have 4/5, og Lance could be a C or C- for Zinnia if you use Hyper Beam and sync with someone else
cyan tusk
A very very very primal draft
My first first draft could be
Bertha ingo Arc Cynthia on maxie
Fall Roxanne Rika Courtney on N
SsBrendan - NcSerena - Anni Raihan on Zinnia
Arc Lance - Lucas- NYClair On SSLeon
Nc Nate - C Iris - V mallow on Nita
paper mist
I think I'll stick with my teams for now and adjust after it starts or if I get aslance
paper mist
zinnia also lacks a champ (zerena isn't a champ)
cyan tusk
- me, smashing my head on the wall
Tbh I’m giving up on the champ theme over there and call it a day
paper mist
I'm lacking champ in 2 teams and tech in one lol
cyan tusk
The problem with Leon is that I’m afraid Lucas dragon zone will still boost his max move
acoustic quarry
I’m missing a champion over there
fall rox champhion no ?
cyan tusk
fall rox champhion no ?
She’s tech but she is not a champion
To meet the 2 requirements
acoustic quarry
I was scratching my head, why do they talk role when champ is them
PLUS
I got baited, shes champion in my langage, not in english, so double confuse xD
acoustic quarry
cyan tusk
Actually, variety Lance is both a champion and a tech…
acoustic quarry
see the bait xD
cyan tusk
lol
acoustic quarry
Champion is Maitre ( Master ) in my langage for ref, don't ask me why lmao
acoustic quarry
Starting to realise how candies heavy this HSE would cost me, think i'm just gonna stick with most unit 1/5 - 2/5 and aim top 500 xD
deft trout
How is 5/5 ss brendan? I have 4/5 and need 2 coins for a support candy
soft lodge
I keep seeing mention of champion theme bonus for the upcoming HSE but isn't it champion or battle facility foe?
not that there are many in ground and dragon but that should mean nita, DC wally, ingo, ss cynthia, and ss leon also fill that requirement
deft trout
should I cake 3/5 anni raihan or 4/5 lucas?
outer whale
I keep seeing mention of champion theme bonus for the upcoming HSE but isn't it ...
It's tech and champion
outer whale
should I cake 3/5 anni raihan or 4/5 lucas?
3/5 anni raihan for another nuke option
paper mist
hey link, did you see my notes? some passives are missing from the doc that can help pairs
outer whale
hey link, did you see my notes? some passives are missing from the doc that can ...
I saw it, i just got home from friends so i haven't had time to input it
soft lodge
It's tech and champion
is the battle facility foe bit on absol's pastebin mistaken then? just checking since I read the pins and saw it only listed champion and the discussion I've seen has only been factoring in champion so I was unsure
outer whale
It's champion OR Battle Facility foe.
So either one fills the criteria
But from what i saw, there's only like.... 2? Battle facility foes in Dragon and ground tbh
main pulsar
Not having her sucks for this hse
outer whale
Nvm 6.
soft lodge
yeah that pool is not a big game changer or anything and tower leon has champion theme skill too anyway but I hadn't seen it get mentioned so I was a little confused
paper mist
wait it Champion or Battle Facility Foe??
nvm my Nita and Leon teams will still lack a theme skill
acoustic quarry
Not having her sucks for this hse
I do, was just showing that gym leader is called champion in my langage, for the meme 😄
acoustic quarry
Select maybe? Good oportunity to have her
main pulsar
I be f2p
acoustic quarry
royal tiger
what does this mean?
cunning shore
what does this mean?
She will do the gimmicks of UB but not that extreme I would assume
royal tiger
hrm
cyan tusk
Btw the battle facility for alternative is kinda nice, makes a couple of units more viable
outer whale
some thoughts:
vGio has Sand Castle (reduces damage in sand) for his defensive u...
Finally implemented these. Thanks for the help 
opaque nebula
Should I exchange 2 more copies of DC Wally for the HSE, considering having all of them once?
fair drift
Should I exchange 2 more copies of DC Wally for the HSE, considering having all ...
maybe test out the HSE stages first before committing
cunning shore
@outer whale where can I find your hse grading sheet 
I checked pins but i might be blind
sullen pier
it's the 4th pinned message
cunning shore
I pinged him in vain
haughty haven
Did you see Iris yet ?
lone bronze
Debuffs accuracy for you and gets this treatment
outer whale
She may debuff accuracy, but the only thing she'll make us avoid is using her on a team.
severe pollen
The boss when you fight her vs the boss when you unlock her as playable
It’s funny how Arc Cynthia even has a stage she doesn’t do well on here, considering she’s the app icon for the entire duration of the HS
cyan tusk
The bad thing is arc Lance not being playable there if you don’t bring an auxiliary nuker
haughty haven
mortal timber
cyan tusk
mortal timber
Mine was already fully invested, I still dunno if I wanna participate ngl
I mainly did iris for rally, tech sprint pretty rare so far
haughty haven
How many Tech Sprint do you have ?
mortal timber
2 with iris
haughty haven
I got 3 with SS May, SS Wally and Larry
mortal timber
I wanna do ss May next ngl
haughty haven
SS May with Sprint is fun
cyan tusk
I have 3 tech sprint, SSMay SSWally and Archer
mortal timber
love how in common we three will all have ss may lmfao
hollow prism
SS May with Sprint is fun
I raise you Paulo
Paulo’s way more fun for SyncCD
And he’s insane in Rally with NCRosa for sleeping and SSDawn’s Crisis Countdown
haughty haven
Me with 0/5 Paulo and high chance will never get him
hollow prism
4th anni non MF moment
He’s so underrated tho bc no one has him
Paulo is going to be incredibly important for Rock HSE
He will buff a teammate with weaker buffing to insane levels, set sand late for a teammate that benefits off it, and allow for easier syncs early on
hollow prism
Rock is so lopsided towards NCSilver and SSDiantha
If you don’t have either ur boned
I have both tho so i can’t really skip
Oh and Selene
Got her too
hollow prism
Dw they’ll pair with Steel and my Steel roster is 1/5
So we’re even
But if it’s rock steel literally all of us have to commit bc ArcSteven is the best unit in the game frankly
haughty haven
Bc i dont care about him that much 
hollow prism
Bruh Silver is so busted
hollow prism
Those 100k Rock Slides in CS in 2 move cycles call your name
haughty haven
hollow prism
That’s not a joke btw Paulo Diantha Silver is so fast lmao
haughty haven
But ofc i dont candy Silver bc i often use all my candy for HSE
And now i cant even use Yellow candy on them bc i’ll use it for Arc Suit
hollow prism
I spent the like, what, 6 month hiatus from HS bc the types were bad?
I used that time to candy other units i wanted at 3/5 for other stuff
Like Elaine
haughty haven
Elaine
hollow prism
And Rei
haughty haven
She is so bad at 1/5
Luckily she is 4/5 just from daily for me
One of my best pair for Rally
hollow prism
1/5 Elaine
And yeah idk how tf she tanks so well at later stages
People call me crazy for using her over CCalem for tanking later tech support
haughty haven
hollow prism
No not you too
cyan tusk
Hey there’s a arc Steven over there
hollow prism
Yo 1/5, you can solo every LG!
haughty haven
No not you too <:LarryDead:1090014801654198383>
No, i meant who tf think Calem is a better tank than Elaine
I literally used her to tank on Area 9 without upgrade
haughty haven
Hey there’s a arc Steven over there
Yeah, i just got him today, 434 so i’ll get his copy
mortal timber
Yeah, i just got him today, 434 so i’ll get his copy
going to another opity for stove you too
hollow prism
No, i meant who tf think Calem is a better tank than Elaine
I have no idea
Tanking with Calem is the biggest trap in the world
It’s never a fun time
hollow prism
Oh yeah i got this too
💀
Im sure she’s gonna do great work at 1/5 this HS
SAID NO ONE EVER
To the depths of the box with ye!
mortal timber
i swear if i get lucky over a random 4/5 imma 5/5 and deploy her
no one is ready for it
vs zinnia, all or nothing
outer whale
Current draft....
paper mist
One of these is not like the others...
outer whale
I still have vgio so might move him to Zinnia
paper mist
I replaced DCWally with Raihan on my Zinnia team since he still debuffs offenses and now has a special sync to get around Lance's physical one, and gives me Tech bonus