#High Score

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vernal trench
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hmm gardenia, acerola & event marnie for dark/ghost hse :/

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unusual from dena

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to release hse pair on the same month

cyan tusk
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Btw id pull for gardenia anyway bc i need a field/sprint with support ex that can deal good damage in rally WEEZing

vernal trench
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i want pull them all but my gems are low, haven't get bianca & cheren 😦

mortal timber
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So true

cunning shore
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Goddamn the new mode looks like it's gonna be ranking as well goddamn

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Goddamning godman

mortal timber
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I am glad for once I am stepping out from this HSE hell lmfao

cunning shore
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Everyone gonna mald Im telling you rn

acoustic quarry
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Is this a joke ?

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Are they putting 2 Ghost unit, right during HSE

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wtf ???

cyan tusk
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And a dark one

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There’s the new event Marnie that is a dark field WEEZing

acoustic quarry
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This is not normal at all for real

hollow prism
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All i'm saying is Greta for Grass is busted

acoustic quarry
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  • Cyrus as a featured unit for HSE, like sleep is something that gonna be useful ....
hollow prism
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also this HS just got way more interesting

acoustic quarry
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This is really, really too much

acoustic quarry
hollow prism
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HS was always whale battle

acoustic quarry
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that false

sharp hedge
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always has been

acoustic quarry
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you had a good chance to had a good rank before

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now you fdon't even have a change to have a good rank

hollow prism
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You still do depending on your roster

acoustic quarry
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( please don't the guy sayign Top1, get some recoil on the overall )

acoustic quarry
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The difference bwteen whales and non whales will be higher, if that better said for you

sharp hedge
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you can comfortably reach t500

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it all depends on your goal

hollow prism
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yeah but for most players having good pairs to pull for on type is really good

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and realistically a F2P isn't getting top 100 ever

acoustic quarry
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Even if money is the first interest for them

acoustic quarry
hollow prism
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you already needed at least 7-8 exclusive units for the types at least

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getting 6-7 gen pool units into a top 100 run in HS is not easy

sharp hedge
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doesnt change much for me SeleneLul

acoustic quarry
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then you switch the angle of the conversation to " when that F2p has began "

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a day one F2P can top 100 HSE ( i wish i was the example, if 103 at 6:57 last event is enough for ur taste ), someone i know that is F2P did 72

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So F2P HAD a chance to top 100 HSE depending on when they started

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Now its not even a possibility for this one

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Because a long therm F2p won't commit that much before anni šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

hollow prism
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Yeah but most F2P players care about the base rewards and not the medal

acoustic quarry
hollow prism
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and to that end the choice between a busted support and a busted strike is insane

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Acerola in particular is like a top 5 unit this HS

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easily

sharp hedge
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hs is already a high investment game mode so idt it change that much

hollow prism
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and everyone can get her during the event

sharp hedge
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now we have more options with dual type which is neat

acoustic quarry
sullen pier
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they meant you can pull for her

acoustic quarry
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the word " get " triggered something in me like " get ? not pull ? saprkles in eyes" xD

cyan tusk
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The real question is

where’s the new battle challenge channel

hollow prism
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Depends if it's a new event like HS or LG

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because they gave us 5 new units for it

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we getting that every 2 months? that's wild

cyan tusk
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It’s permanent content with limited ranking battle challenge

acoustic quarry
hollow prism
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oh so like if they let us replay HS stages after the event was over lol

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WHICH THEY SHOULD DO

hollow prism
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Ghost and Dark gen pool SUUUUUUCKS

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You're LUCKY if you have Victor. Have fun using Allister, Phoebe, and Masked Royal. Lodge Morty for Evasion is fun too

acoustic quarry
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I feel Alister and Masked royal does check for 180k, but thats a base assumption without the rule ofc

hollow prism
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Sidney and Absol is also an option though i've never used them

cunning shore
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200k now
180k is of the past

hollow prism
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oh god even worse

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I don't think Gen pools alone can get 40k per stage

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and half the exclusives are bad Fall units

cunning shore
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Fall always be unable to recover from anni hype

hollow prism
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How good you think Greta is for Grass HS

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I feel like it depends on the Sync

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her sync CD manipulation potential is insane though

acoustic quarry
acoustic quarry
hollow prism
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he has potion and Brutal Swing

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there's def a way to get to Sync 6 with her

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which in HS is busted to shit

acoustic quarry
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If i had a brain that TC correctly future HSE i'd say she looks pickable for sure

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But i'm just a nuker in the end WEEZing

hollow prism
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i'm already theorizing Greta Victor SS Acerola

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her AOE sleep after enemy sync 1 is busted

haughty haven
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GL for who climbing this, i’m gonna skip this unless i get 2 new ghost pair by miracle

hollow prism
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I was already skipping tf out of this HS

cunning shore
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Tbh I think if the next HSE in 2 months isn't a repeat typing it's highly likely we won't see repeat typings for a long while

hollow prism
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Yeah imagine Fire coming back with a secondary typing

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I stand by that we need additional parameters to make HS interesting. This is just gonna become a 660k speedrun

cunning shore
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Ehhhhhhhhhh it's not like we had 10 660k on the list

hollow prism
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Ghost and Dark will be fine but after that Fire Electric AND Grass will all hit 660k fs

acoustic quarry
hollow prism
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and we haven't even gotten to the nuclear bomb that is Dragon with a secondary type that has supports

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THAT hs is gonna be CRAZY

cunning shore
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I think dragon types will fumble

hollow prism
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no way

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there's a lot of units that will suck but we have Zerena, Nate, Leon, and Lucas can work with one of them

sullen pier
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Clair dying to any Dragon attacks:

cunning shore
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Palkia Needs Rain
Zerena āœ…
NCNate āœ…
Champ Iris āœ…
SSCynthia will be useless unless 5/5
SSLeon meh
Lucas is good but I feel he will have a hard time
Rest of the techs are basically lowkey trash
Support ain't the best out there apart from Latios

sullen pier
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eh support still has Pal Mallow

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she is pretty good in physical focused stages

cunning shore
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Pal Mallow my beloved

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Still

hollow prism
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pal units never miss

acoustic quarry
cunning shore
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Nah, but you will probably give dragon boost to your opponents too

acoustic quarry
hollow prism
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once Lucas runs out of TMs he's slow af

acoustic quarry
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you just play around if you have too

cunning shore
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Depending on the restrictions / Parameters you might be forced to use him in a dragon dtage

hollow prism
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maybe if he doesn't pair with one of the other slow strikers he'll be fine but it's really noticeable

cunning shore
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And like mentioned, once TMs out he eats gauge like crazy

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I love Lucas, I use him basically in all my Duo Dragon runs

hollow prism
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Imagine picking X Speed MPR

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šŸ’€

cunning shore
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Just

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Not enough with slow strikers or units

hollow prism
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no for the gauges lmaooooo

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so he isn't Anni Lillie levels of a gauge monster

cunning shore
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Roar of Time needs a longer animation šŸ˜‚

cunning shore
hollow prism
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😭

cunning shore
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He atleast boosts some speed

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So if the units with him actually good

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He will survive

hollow prism
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hey Lillie has potions she has SOME utility

cunning shore
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On the other hand

hollow prism
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also she can lower sp atk with Moonblast btw

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if there's a fairy weak stage she actually becomes really good

cunning shore
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Lilie be eating away your gauge and probably having to moonblast every now and then

hollow prism
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I stand by Archie being worse

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Especially when he's with May

glossy ravine
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HS starts when I get busy with IRL work

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smh

oak fulcrum
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well summer Acerola looks busted for HSE
I really should go back to sleep and not look at kits at 3:30 am shouldn’t I

acoustic quarry
cunning shore
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I haven't looked at any kits

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Interested to see Jasmine expansion

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That Lana Exclusive Cookie thoughhhhhhh
They really want Lana to be Immortal

sullen pier
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what are exclusive lucky skills next month?

haughty haven
cunning shore
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Klara gets Virulent Toxin 4
Brooooo
They feeding new units some insane LS

sharp hedge
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did greta get anything good

cunning shore
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Sleeper unit
You mean LS?

cunning shore
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Attack down 2
30% chance lowering attack per attack move
Fixed misinformation

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For greta

cunning shore
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Catalytic cure
Hp recover 4
Leech life
Regn

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Put her with a unit that debuffs Defense and just watch your HP go up forever

sullen pier
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Azelf be watch out

cunning shore
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Jasmine only good Node is Team Critical Command 9

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I was hoping

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For more..

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Ugh

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Sad

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(but hey it's super good)

sullen pier
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i think that's enough for her tbh

cunning shore
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SS Cyrus nodes actually good

sullen pier
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kind wish she had spdef buffs

cunning shore
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Ye

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I wanted something like wise entry 2

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Just for her idm

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Saves me a LS

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Use Status P-Move: Special Boost ↑1 9
Increases the user’s Special Moves ↑ Next effect by one rank when its PokĆ©mon uses a status move.
Color Grid: 🟨 Yellow
1 or more adjacent tiles must be activated
Move level must be 5 or higher
Like
This is so good, not for HSE but so good in general.

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So no need for 5/5 Cyrus šŸ‘€
Unless you're dying for Dark Zone Extension

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4/5 Gets Start battle enemy asleep
Which
In my humble opinion, is counterproductive

sharp hedge
cunning shore
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Welllll
I am skipping this month
Because Bianca did it with me

thorny grove
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Oh thank god the 4 and 5 are not too good for HSE. I can focus my non existent candies elsewhere

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Now to suffer trying to get Akari and still save up for anni

cunning shore
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I mean he gets umbiral healing at 2/5
So whoever had him 2/5 for sleephax
Already winning

thorny grove
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Yeah me lol

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I’ll gladly take the umbra healing.

cunning shore
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So I don't fully understand the high dmg event thing
But from my understanding all these units after Nemona in the datamine are all free?

ornate turret
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they're like lodge and bp but 5*

acoustic quarry
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i understand it the same way so far

crimson python
crimson python
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oh

outer whale
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I won't be able to work on the HSE Doc until a weekend arrives.

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So expect rankings to be a bit late.

glossy ravine
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im looking briefly at what the HS stuff

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and now I think I can't even top 100 anymore

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having a ghost roster doesn't really do much there when three of the stages are dark weak and want you to get your dark stuff

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and like, my dark roster is in shambles

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no marnie, no N, no Akari, no Archer, and no MR

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  • you need the two new ghosts to compensate
mortal timber
sharp hedge
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yes LusamineLurk

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saw an entry sleep SeleneLul

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idk how that plays out

mortal timber
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No idea how worth to double candy just for extension, leaving HSE aside but whenever I can I will do it just cuz Cyrus

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Was expecting more ngl

sharp hedge
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he already got field idt he needs the extension SidneyYippee

mortal timber
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Overkill zone duration let's go

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Mpr field and extension

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Lmfao

sharp hedge
haughty haven
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+10 SMUN Dark Pulse go

mortal timber
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TRUE

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They really want to let you mash dark void

sharp hedge
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he did get smun stacking

mortal timber
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And then release a giga dark pulse

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Sounds fun lol

sharp hedge
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5/5 nodes LarryDead

mortal timber
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All of them?

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So at 4 only sleep on entry?

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And I guess soften up?

sharp hedge
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yes

haughty haven
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Sleep on entry is so pointless for HS ngl

sharp hedge
mortal timber
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Yeah sleep on entry is surely smth

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But at least at 2/5 he got umbral healing

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That's gonna help his LG clears

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Me thinks

haughty haven
night sleet
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If cyrus in banner mean top1-20 spot need use him 5/5:)

mortal timber
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Yes SS Cyrus Akari double

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Huge value if you ask me

acoustic quarry
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i still dont understand how they can pull a sleep char featuring HSE

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thats so unproductive dev wise

night sleet
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Good i have both off them already

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No need scout

mortal timber
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Me too, I'll candy Cyrus whenever I can just cuz fav

haughty haven
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Meanwhile i have 1/5 Akari and 0/5 SS Cyrus

night sleet
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šŸ’³

haughty haven
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And i will not scout them

sharp hedge
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same

night sleet
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Will be in use🤪

haughty haven
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Bc anni is so close

sharp hedge
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ill prolly just daily to aim for akati copies

mortal timber
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Eh Anni is close, I gotta save too this month

acoustic quarry
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That said, if everyone skip this HS, maybe top 100 full open and easy

haughty haven
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Yeah, my Ghost and Dark isn’t the best

mortal timber
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I will surely skip

night sleet
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Jp players will not skipp

mortal timber
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Getting both of my worst rosters in one go helps

haughty haven
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And 2 new Ghost this month meaning skip HS is a good choice

night sleet
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My ghost suks

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But 2 new units will make it more easy

mortal timber
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I will just ex the supports for completion sake and future uses

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And that's it, that's my investment

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I had no ghost and dark supp ex LMFAO

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All 5* hahah

haughty haven
acoustic quarry
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inbefore anniv unit sucks

mortal timber
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I believe in Sinnohversary

acoustic quarry
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i don't even know what i would want for anni now, i was generaly like " they gnna put some dark and ghost anniv just for the meme to put them after the HSE " but now i'm in the shadowrealm

mortal timber
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Two new units and seasonals too

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Very evil

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But oh well

acoustic quarry
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I wonder if they'll get some kind of backlash from comunity

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after realising fully whats hapening

mortal timber
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HSE was forcing me on investing on units for that event, now that I can safely stop and focus on other units I feel wayyy better

mortal timber
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But yeah, wishing good luck for whoever is gonna pull Jellicent and Dhelmise

night sleet
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Noland can be perma sleep?

sullen pier
cyan tusk
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Only lg wise imo

night sleet
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Maybe some stage can use him sleep more times?

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Hard tell

paper mist
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Man 2 ghost Seasonals my chances of ranking decent just dropped because I’m skipping dead

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And I’m getting Gladion first for my damage battle pair

cyan tusk
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I just opened the pastebin of the stages
N
Sync move damage reduced by 80%

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Goodbye my friends

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Sydney no tech
Rip

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Agatha no weather

mortal timber
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Excuse me?

cyan tusk
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Fantina no rules
Acerola sync cd -3

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They basically threw all the worst conditions all together WEEZing WEEZing

mortal timber
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Are heals parameters on too?

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As the cherry on top?

cyan tusk
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Still don’t know

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Lemme check

mortal timber
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Gotcha

cyan tusk
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Time trial
Stat increase
Stat decrease

mortal timber
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Oh time trial

cyan tusk
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Flinching x1000
Gym leader or seasonal x1000

paper mist
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Ofc it’s seasonal SophoKEK

mortal timber
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Wow putting that salt on the seasonal

paper mist
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Tbf it’s probably more because of Fall always having a Ghost pair, but still

mortal timber
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Yeah not everyone is willing to pull those

cyan tusk
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My will to fight this event is slightly disappearing

paper mist
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This update is. Hm. And my lack of copies will hurt even more now with me skipping all 3 new pairs this month.

mortal timber
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Any syncro healing unit from here?

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For N stage I mean

paper mist
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Caitlin

cyan tusk
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Fall Allister

mortal timber
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I see

cyan tusk
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Fall catlin

mortal timber
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I have her unironically

cyan tusk
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Still haven’t looked acerola and gardenia’s grid

night sleet
mortal timber
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Acerola give positive ghost and water rebuff to all team

cyan tusk
mortal timber
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Gardenia can set up steel and ghost zone

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Mainly

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A quick summary

night sleet
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Yes

cyan tusk
night sleet
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Thanks

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Mean acerola perfect stage for archer

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He can reduce it

mortal timber
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Yeah

cyan tusk
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Agatha for fall Allister

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And the double rebuff

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Or is she dark weak?

mortal timber
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We have dark weak stages? Wow

cyan tusk
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If so, it’s ncmarnie + brycenman

night sleet
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Ghost are dark weak

mortal timber
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That's a good trade off for tough requirements

night sleet
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Most ghost dark weak

mortal timber
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So mainly dark types are needed

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Huh

night sleet
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Yeap its good im dark king

mortal timber
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Not that it's gonna help my situation so hahah

night sleet
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Have dark crazy good

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Ghost nošŸ™‚ā€ā†”ļø

haughty haven
paper mist
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Use archer and pray for MPR ig

oak fulcrum
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MPR is on 2/5, guess I know who I’m candying next

acoustic quarry
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I guess thoose rule are ok ish

paper mist
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At 3/5 he skips a full turn without lucky skill for the first time

glossy ravine
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hmm

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Acerola really wants to reward uhh

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people who grab Gardenia

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lol

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Despite the weakness, N will reward people who have Anni Lillie

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because of the good synergy she has

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fairy weak + special

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also we only have one dark weak stage, so that even things out a bit

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yeah it's kinda unfair how acerola is tailor made for gardenia, which is quite annoying

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people who have gardenia will rank quite higher over people who don't

oak fulcrum
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kinda glad the two summer pairs both just interest me in general because they definitely seem overcatered to this high score

glossy ravine
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I kinda already know off the top of my head

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what I'm gonna do

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just that Gardenia is really important

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for Acerola

night sleet
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I scout for all off new ones soo good 2 ghost make my top100 run more easy

paper mist
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Man idk if I wanna try hard this this time now

glossy ravine
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otherwise the only way you are gonna handle Acerola is with phoebe or really good Lillie luck

night sleet
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I dont want try hard just chill top100 like always

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No orbs spend or skill gears roll

haughty haven
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But you’ll scout new pair right ? CobalionSquint

night sleet
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Yes

paper mist
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no try hard
top 100

Pick one

night sleet
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Like always i scout for new ones all

haughty haven
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You should aim for top 100

night sleet
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Try hard for me is top1-3 left

haughty haven
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Gate keeper

night sleet
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Haha too hard for mešŸ™‚ā€ā†”ļøšŸ™‚ā€ā†”ļø

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I need like fire / electric combo

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Then will push hard

glossy ravine
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idt I can top 100 this

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id be very surprised if I can

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I'm missing too many important pieces

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but I expect to be able to do high points on certain stages

night sleet
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You madman have good ghost units

paper mist
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Idt I can get top 500 without copies

glossy ravine
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too many dark weaknesses

night sleet
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So can score not bad

glossy ravine
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if you don't have specific units against

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particularly N and Sidney

night sleet
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We have 2 dark stage

glossy ravine
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you're rekt

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Agatha and Fantina will be the easy claps

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particularly, Agatha if you have Fall Allister is like

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ez cake

paper mist
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No brycenman, no summerola, no gardhlemise

glossy ravine
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from what I'm seeing

glossy ravine
night sleet
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Fall alister i have

paper mist
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My FAllister is 1/5 🄲

glossy ravine
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and Fantina you can just throw your most broken dark units at it for an easy 1k

haughty haven
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0/5 here Clod_Grief

glossy ravine
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since not a lot of dark weak stages

paper mist
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Everything else at 1/5 mostly

night sleet
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Marnie brycenman and calem

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Easy 1000 on fantina

glossy ravine
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The saddest part about this is that I have no good offensive dark units

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like at all

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no marnie

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no N

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no hilbert

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I have to use fucking karen

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lol

paper mist
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Only notable ones are CCalem and Faitlin 2/5 marnie and archer 3/5 and CyruSS 5/5

night sleet
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Archer for acerola will be good

paper mist
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My ass isn’t resetting for 5 MPRs and perfect flinches, I struggle to get 1

night sleet
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Sync reduce eva up

glossy ravine
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I have to throw Phoebe/Cynthia/Dawn at Acerola

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unless I luccsacc Gardenia out of nowhere

night sleet
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Good gardenia need 3 copy only

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Thank god

glossy ravine
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probably the biggest issue rn for me is Sidney, it's hard for me to get a good comp for that

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I think calem is mandatory there

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which compromises my Fantina comp

night sleet
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Sidney no tech?

paper mist
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Forgot SCLillie Anni Lillie and SSRC too but the rest are still 1/5

glossy ravine
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yes, no techs allowed

night sleet
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Akari can be use on him

paper mist
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I don’t get why N is here, why are they pulling a Marnie instead of just using Karen

glossy ravine
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this is where you are rewarded for having Akari

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or Marnie

night sleet
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Cyrus

glossy ravine
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dark and ghost are too saturated in terms of units

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notably techs

night sleet
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For sleep zone and debuff

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You dont attack whit him

paper mist
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You can’t sleep every turn though

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He has to attack

night sleet
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So he can be fo his utility

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Debbuff

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Sleep zone

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No need attack whit him spam dark void and dark zone

paper mist
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What is sleep zone and how do I acquire it IRL

weary rivet
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But SAcerola doesn't buff team rebuff?

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Unless there is in grid

paper mist
glossy ravine
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she mostly just is responsible for being fat

paper mist
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Will wait for the infographic before I start making teams

night sleet
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She buff only for hear water and ghost

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Rebuff 2 times

glossy ravine
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I think Sidney punishes you

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for having no offensive dark

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you have to use stuff like Marnie or Hilbert or w/e against Sidney

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because if you try to run anything else you'll explode

weary rivet
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What about Brycenman

night sleet
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Marnie brycen man akari

weary rivet
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Haven't seen a mention of him

glossy ravine
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Brycenman is a tech

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sidney will just

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delete his ass

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you can't run techs against him

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and that's the biggest problem

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because 60% of the ghost/dark cast are techs

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lol

night sleet
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A he have strike exr

glossy ravine
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actually no, nvm

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more like 1/3rd

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18

night sleet
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Yeap most are tech

glossy ravine
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yeah doesn't matter, you still have 90% of your stats gone and don't do much

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you have to have Akari or Marnie there or you get rekt

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I have to use Karen there

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which is annoying

night sleet
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Akari i think and 2 sup?

glossy ravine
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also, Renegade Cynthia surprisingly has a very bad matchup spread

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she is not usable in more or less 3 stages

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no zone, tech -80%

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and sync damage -80%

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N is where you throw your caitlin or morty and spam Synchro Healing

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for value

night sleet
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And sync reduce too

glossy ravine
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she's okay there

night sleet
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Dena after 660k angry

glossy ravine
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but you have no incentive to use her against Fantina either

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because you prefer to use your darks there

paper mist
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So…Acerola then?

glossy ravine
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so Cynthia only has one not-shit matchup

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yeah

night sleet
#

Wat day hse start?

glossy ravine
#

and even thne its the toughest stage of the LG

oak fulcrum
#

ends on the 21st (reset of)

night sleet
#

Soo early dam

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Dont like it

#

Why not 10/24

oak fulcrum
#

yeah I wouldn't mind a couple extra days before it started but at least they aren't dropping any ontype characters toward the end of the event

night sleet
#

And we have new damage event tommorow

#

Give me a break dena lok

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Lg end new event hse after next damage event

#

Jesus

glossy ravine
#

Lemme just rewrite my unit "tiering":
**Mandatory Units: **Summer Gardenia, Neo Champion Marnie, Akari, Summer Acerola, Fall Phoebe, SC Lillie
**Core Units with overall great matchup spread: **SS Cyrus, NC Calem, SC Irida, Brycen-Man, Fall Allister, All Three Ghost Morties, NY Dawn, SC Zinnia, Variety Selene, SS Cyrus
**Specific-stage units: ** Anni Lillie, Fall Caitlin, Summer N, Fall Hilbert, Archer, Tierno, MR, SS Korrrina
**Bad matchup spreads: ** Renegade Cynthia + remainder

oak fulcrum
#

thought damage challenge dropped on Friday

night sleet
#

They 27

glossy ravine
#

Mostly the most defining units will be Gardenia, marnie and Akari 100%

night sleet
#

Say it drop first

glossy ravine
#

if you don't have Marnie or Akari

#

gl beating Sidney with high points

night sleet
#

My marnie is wait too shine hehe

oak fulcrum
#

Akari but no Marnie over here (restarted right after 3.5 anni why)

glossy ravine
#

Gardenia against acerola makes a big difference

#

Phoebe also has a guaranteed free 2000 points

#

because seasonal + flinch

#

and is the most durable support outside of acerola

night sleet
#

Yeap

glossy ravine
#

but acerola is kind of "Phoebe 2"

night sleet
#

And tierno also good sup dark

glossy ravine
#

essentially a better version

night sleet
#

Phoebe have potion check

#

Its better

oak fulcrum
#

not candying my fall phoebe for this since I have too many other targets so she's only giving me 1000

glossy ravine
#

SC lillie with her screen RNG will also make a bit difference

oak fulcrum
#

she'll still likely be great at 1/5 though

glossy ravine
#

she'll not be as durable without pots

night sleet
#

And she buff team

glossy ravine
#

Fall Morty and NY Dawn have good matchups against Agatha and Acerola, but crucially Agatha

#

Fall Allister + one of these two is a no brainer

#

and you can use BP Morty to make sure Allister stays alive

#
  • flinch compression
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issue is you would then have to sack one seasonal or GL

oak fulcrum
#

I'll be around 5 omni coins of being able to candy both her and Archer in time, I'm at 18 support candy coins so maybe I get mine to 3/5 in time

night sleet
#

Sc units like zinnia brycen man is count as seasonal?

glossy ravine
#

No, they're not

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they don't ahve the theme skill

#

they're special costume

haughty haven
#

I remember he only buffs crit

glossy ravine
#

I think you need Phoebe + Marnie for maximum points on either Sidney or Fantina

glossy ravine
#

he has ARU

#

one of Phoebe or Acerola seasonals

night sleet
#

No fall alister use witty hit

#

He can raise attack

glossy ravine
#

that's an LG thing lol

#

uhh wut

#

he raises special attack

#

he runs witty hit because its too expensive

#

to get syncrho healing with it

night sleet
#

A never new he have haha

glossy ravine
#

BP Morty also is gonna be used widely

night sleet
#

Always use witty hit

glossy ravine
#

one of the few units that compresses GL/flinch

night sleet
#

Plus confusion on side is also good

glossy ravine
#

literally the only units that compress it as Fall Phoebe, Summer Acerola, BP Morty and ironically, Lodge Cheren

night sleet
#

They offen hit them self

glossy ravine
#

everything else you need to kind of mix and match

night sleet
#

I dont have lodge cheren plus he is tech

#

I have dark tech all

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No need him lol

glossy ravine
#

I think I'd unironically throw Lodge Cheren against like, Fantina

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and just duo with karen

#

idk

#

The main issue is knowing how to deal with Sidney, he's the main problem

haughty haven
#

Did you know enemy move yet ?

glossy ravine
#

it's listed

#

in abs' docs

haughty haven
#

Oh

#

That why

#

I cant use it

glossy ravine
#

I think I have to run caitlin against sidney

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and use like idk, Irida

#

then use SC Lillie for N instead and have to get some good RNG rolls on screens

paper mist
glossy ravine
#

she doesn't have especially excellent matchups

#

what especially sucks

#

is that she is one of the few ghosts that is not weak to dark

#

but both of those stages give her the middle finger

#

by reducing sync damage AND reducing her sttas

vernal trench
glossy ravine
#

Korrina has a good Acerola matchup

#

fwiw

paper mist
glossy ravine
#

Im actually not surprised if I end up going through this HS without even using Renegade Cynthia

#

due to matchup spreads

#

I feel unironically I might get more success against Acerola with Victor + Korrina

#

due to the cleanse

vernal trench
#

I don't have NC marnie to face N 😦

glossy ravine
#

because spdef debuffs are also quite weak there because acerola has spdef buffs

#

N is more of a Lillie thing anyway, and Marnie is better off with Sidney

vernal trench
#

Oh yeah Anniv Lillie is also dmg dealer

glossy ravine
#

it's the only fairy weak stage

#

and while Lillie is dark weak it's special

#

so she can also soften hits with On a Roll

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to not be as pressured

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  • she has Dauntless for Snarl
#

if possible fish for SC lillie screens or use caitlin, but caitlin is probably necessary against sidney

vernal trench
#

N have dark move? Rip šŸ˜…

glossy ravine
#

My comp spread is likely gonna be something like this:
N: Anni Lillie/SC Lillie/one of Allister or Lodge Morty
Sidney: Fall Caitlin/BP Morty/SC Irida or Karen
Agatha: Fall Allister/NY Dawn/BP Morty
Fantina: SS Cyrus/Lodge Cheren/NC Calem
Acerola: Fall Phoebe/Event Victor/SS Korrina

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I could use Zinnia for a stronger comp against Fantina, but the issue becomes no Gym Leader/seasonal, meaning it depends on the compensation

grand perch
#

Lack of Carnie gonna hurt me lol

main pulsar
#

@cyan tusk There is no arven right?

#

I can go for bianca risk free?

haughty haven
main pulsar
#

Hell yeah

#

Because she so nice I give candy

acoustic quarry
#

Is there the big infograph already ? cauz i don't see weakness / moove set but so much has been posted maybe i missed it

hollow prism
#

TECHS off limits is BAD, and then ofc Acerola is really testing my love for alola

cyan tusk
#

80% sync dmg reduction is trash tbf

hollow prism
#

Is N weak to Fairy or Ghost

cyan tusk
#

Bc V Selene is the syncro healing user but her dps…..

#

Not that great

hollow prism
#

Because Anni Lillie is probably not worth without SEUN

#

Maybe she can manage but idk

acoustic quarry
#

This is the go to for me right now, will see with moove set / weakness
Who thought Flinch / Gym Leader was a good idea ffs /o

cunning shore
#

You wont be spamming sleep

#

You don't want to start battle with everyone already asleep

#

So 5/5 not worth

#

I rather cake

#

But good thing

main pulsar
#

How would u start battle

cunning shore
#

I am not trying to go high

#

If you instantly start with sleep (before you triple queue)

#

What's the point?!

#

You're not skipping a turn lol

#

Sleep and flinches best usages are when you want to skip enemy turn

#

Having debut sleep

#

Destroys your first skip

main pulsar
#

Oh he has debut sleep

#

Arguably the most useless tile I’ve ever heard in my life

#

Because it’s on a character that can sleep all people at any time

cunning shore
#

Exactly

#

So everything they gave him

#

Either super good outside of HSE

#

Or not useful at all

#

That Special move↑ per Dark void is a menace

mortal timber
#

I love that

#

Sounds much fun

cunning shore
#

For LG Solos and what not

mortal timber
#

Imma invest on Darkrai

#

Slowly

cunning shore
#

I am gonna keep him 2/5

#

He's good there

#

His 2/5 gets umbral healing now

mortal timber
#

Huge actually

#

So free at 2/5

#

But I want ignorance

#

I want dark void spam into +10 smun dark pulse lol

cunning shore
#

Tbh

#

It's gonna be beautiful

#

So I don't blame you

oak fulcrum
#

I’ll definitely get 3/5 because mine is lacking his power play tile and I’d like that for gauntlet

cunning shore
#

Bro this Acerola base kit is so good

#

I been busy looking at Exclusive LS and Old Expansion

#

Now looking at new units

#

Phewww what the heck

hollow prism
#

Yeah Acerola is kinda nuts

cunning shore
#

Greta Base Kit feels very Mid, ngl

hollow prism
#

Top 5 unit this HS

#

I think Greta is fine especially for HS

#

You have single target sleep to start, then AOE after enemy sync for long turn delays

main pulsar
#

I have no interest in them

hollow prism
#

And with GT and double OP multiplier she can probably nuke on a HS stage

main pulsar
#

Characterwise

cunning shore
cunning shore
hollow prism
#

It is once the AI uses the X items

#

Then the AI is frozen for a while

main pulsar
#

I don’t like acce or gardenia

#

But I wanna know what they do

cunning shore
#

Oh when they run out of X items, ok u have a point

hollow prism
#

Acerola has 40% flinch on her base move at 3/5, she has Recover, which on ise also gives gradual healing. She has team fist bump to add to this

#

Yeah Greta allows 6 syncs on a HS stage

cunning shore
hollow prism
#

And she has a decent nuke herself

cunning shore
#

Gardenia is a double field unit MalvaReckless

hollow prism
#

Also once you box her after HS she’s a great LG unit and a Sprint Field for Rally

#

Gardenia’s steel zone isn’t real

#

She’s a ghost zone unit šŸ’€

main pulsar
hollow prism
#

Acerola is by far the best unit of the new units

cunning shore
#

By a mile

hollow prism
#

Acerola is critical this HS

#

Especially at 3/5

cunning shore
#

I don't know Avery's grid
But if he has no hail extension or mpr of some sort

#

He's meh too

hollow prism
#

Avery is bad lmao

#

Klara can do the funny with NCRosa

#

Nice B move condition SophoKEK

main pulsar
#

What is klarw

cunning shore
#

I love Kabu and his Lodge whatsup with this man being a healer like that

hollow prism
#

Klara is a mixed poison attacker that has a B Move locked behind having Move up next

cunning shore
#

Klara is Galarian Slowbro

hollow prism
#

Which you get on use of moves

#

So you attack with a weak move once and get the B move after, like every other mediocre strike since SSN lol

#

But you can cheese it with Rosa

cunning shore
#

But technically

#

Wouldn't she just spam B move

#

And it will count once as physical

hollow prism
#

Yes that’s the point

cunning shore
#

And once as Special

#

Or wait a second

#

Ignore me

hollow prism
#

You don’t get move up next from b move

#

Only poison jab and sludge bomb

cunning shore
#

Oui

hollow prism
#

But ofc this hinges on klara actually finding real estate with NCRosa who is the most fought over unit in the game

#

Like 15 units wanna pair with her lol

main pulsar
#

It’ll be her best team it just probably won’t be the best team

cunning shore
#

Let me go check out the free dmg event unite

hollow prism
#

Once the stage is electric weak ima jump off a bridge with my lack of ash

#

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

cunning shore
#

Ofc freebie units get no EXR

main pulsar
#

Booo

#

Are they any good

hollow prism
#

Absolutely not

cunning shore
#

And 5 stars so we can't just candy them with 4*

#

Sigh

#

They learned from BP

hollow prism
#

Only Nemona is even remotely good, and hugh is ok if you squint really hard

#

But the other 3 are bottom tier trash

cunning shore
#

From base kits alone only Nemona looks alright

#

Gladion doesn't even crit himself

main pulsar
#

lol

hollow prism
#

Gladion is a choice

cunning shore
#

Marnie good to debuff

#

Mini potion available

hollow prism
#

Imagine Triple axel with debuffs and you buff defenses, and then you get low defenses and high atk

#

Identity crisis

hollow prism
cunning shore
#

Well in my opinion they're trash in the sense that they're field/sprint units that do nearly no damage whatsoever

#

They debuff

main pulsar
#

Oh so they’re rally bots

cunning shore
#

And put debut zones

#

After that just fuck yourself

hollow prism
#

Hugh is a good debuffer for Flying HS and that’s it

#

Nemona is genuinely decent

cunning shore
#

she leeches defense too

#

Well I know which one i am going for first

hollow prism
#

Yeah Flinch with Accel and Armor Leech is actually pretty good for a free unit

cunning shore
#

Gladion my last option

hollow prism
#

Gladion is 🤔

#

At least Wally gives you +1 torn clear in LG

cunning shore
#

They tryna give us Sprint and field units to help us in Rally what they're doing is adding to our misery

#

I didn't check wally out

#

Let me go look

hollow prism
#

Wally’s also really bad

cunning shore
#

Welll

#

He has his uses

hollow prism
#

He has 2 niches

#
  1. Get a refresh on MPR and sync a cycle early
cunning shore
#

I didn't check any of their grids because that's just sad

hollow prism
#
  1. Paralyze and then debuff defenses
cunning shore
#

Yeah double defense debuff is big for me

hollow prism
#

But wtf is 400+ atk and under 200 def

cunning shore
#

Wally will see action during dragon hse

hollow prism
#

Swap that shit

cunning shore
#

Would be busted then

hollow prism
#

Like if Gladion and Wally were both defensive pairs they’d be good

#

But they suck bc they’re squishy

paper mist
#

Don’t remind me of how bad Gladion is WhitneySad

#

I’m required to get him too but idk if I could ever use him, no zone extension means no zone for sync but no buffs means syncing for zone will suck

#

I could only run him with Ghetsis and like, Classic Gio on Kanto and maybe Johto CS and then just bring back Irida to help Ghetsis again (and then ditch Ghetsis for vGio when he struggles in Sinnoh/Hoenn)

cunning shore
#

Idk how they still come up with modern units that don't buff it's own crit

main pulsar
#

Nemona isn’t even +3

#

Why do they do this

cunning shore
#

Ill take +2 over nothing

cyan tusk
#

Oh the hse banner has also akari with rate up

paper mist
#

oops all dark

trim beacon
#

High score comes out during ax fml

#

Can't grind to be top 20 for the first day I cri

topaz sleet
#

i just realized there are zero 3 star dark or ghost pairs in the general pool lmao, the akari/ss cyrus banner will probably not be type exclusive

topaz sleet
#

sorry for those hoping for a rate up on tierno (me)

#

though perhaps the 5 stars will still be type exclusive?

#

we'll have to see

gleaming raven
#

that or they'll do something interesting and give Helena, Rachel and Sawyer for that banner

topaz sleet
#

70% helena scout BarryPogChamp

gleaming raven
#

it won't happen but i'd like it if it did

paper mist
#

hopefully rachel and sawyer will be added without needing lear

#

but i doubt it. enjoy your agathas and shauntals

oak fulcrum
#

could they just give us a 90% 4 star rate instead?

storm sinew
#

4 star powerup farming banner XD

#

this will be interesting...

#

for limiteds i have SC Irida, 1/5 Archer and Victrier, if he counts

#

and I plan to pull for Akari (hopefully getting SSCyrus too)

#

oh and ig i could grab DC Marnie and I have Egg Umbreon

rain sierra
#

I legit wonder how SS Cyrus will fare this HSE. He's one of the banner pairs, but don't they have resilience on recovery?

#

Which means you cannot spam his sleep gimmick

paper mist
#

he's for zone + debuffs especially since one of the bonuses is more debuffs iirc

sharp hedge
#

and dark void will still proc debuffs

night sleet
#

His gimmick is not sleep only

#

You can put them sleep 2 times befor sync mid

#

And he low sts all off then wat is important for points

#

Plus dark zone and extension

royal tiger
#

oh come on. Acerola is basically Liza from Psychic HSE? 😦

night sleet
#

Yes

#

After 660k dena angry

#

And give shity combo and hard stage and themes and condition

#

So you need kill them fast šŸ™‚ how?

#

When you have points for raise your sts and low oponets:)

#

Haha this 3 stuff not work togeher

royal tiger
#

hrm. its nothing too bad.

#

there. initial stuff i guesss.

cyan tusk
#

This is gonna be the hardest hse so far

#

My 2 cents

#

Even more than fire lol

royal tiger
#

Hmm yeah.

#

i've got nothing for VS Acerol sigh

cunning shore
#

Who do we have with healing syncs in dark ghost

royal tiger
cunning shore
#

Don't got Faitlin

#

The morty supports got no Syncro Healings?

#

BP Morty Has syncro in grid

royal tiger
#

Sawyer has it as well

cunning shore
#

Idk about the other one

#

Sawyer has Syncro?

#

But he has no defensive buffs

#

Non consistent ones atleast

#

Cause 80% off sync
Better just Get some sync buffs and heal

sullen pier
#

Rachel
Sawyer
Fall Caitlin
BP Morty
Lodge Morty
Tierno
Fall Allister

#

these supports got Synchro Healing, most of them have the passive locked behind 3/5

cunning shore
#

Tierno....
We don't have such beautiful and useful units

sullen pier
#

he is a myth for me

cunning shore
#

Out of that list the fallers and Tierno

#

Don't exist

#

For me

#

Lodge Morty has it too?

royal tiger
sullen pier
#

yeah

cunning shore
#

Noiceeee

#

Evasion Hax

#

And tank

#

And ridicure

#

Ok noice

royal tiger
#

Some of them have pinpoint entry .-.

cunning shore
#

Bruhhh

#

Another hell of Evasion hax not working

#

I have 3 units I am gonna EX (the only investment I am putting in this event)

#

Morty (base)
Selene V
Alister

royal tiger
#

VSelene huh

#

I think im gonna go with tierno and fallister

cunning shore
#

I would like to know if it's possible for me to push big

#

Or just 200k and dip

#

By push big I don't mind not reaching my usual t100

royal tiger
cunning shore
#

I like the challenge sometimes

#

There is something about hunting higher ranks

#

A thrill of some sort

royal tiger
#

The only reason i went 300k last hse was cuz of the MFs i held

#

Minus ss glad

cunning shore
#

I had them all and Barely stayed in t100

acoustic quarry
sullen pier
#

you can wait for infographics

#

for now only absol's pastebin has the info

acoustic quarry
#

The pastbin only shows the fight rule, not weakness / moove set or am i blind ?

sullen pier
#

the Quest pastebin contains the info

#

not this one

acoustic quarry
cunning shore
#

Yooooooooo wadafak

#

Who has that

#

Vigilance on every pair

#

Dark/ghost guard ain't gonna feed y'all

night sleet
#

Fantina after use hear trainer move

#

Prob 1-2

storm sinew
#

does any ghost/dark pair do crit hit def?

#

hm fall Caitlin

sullen pier
#

aside from her, no, but there are Dark/Ghost supports with innate Vigilance

#

idt Fantina herself has aoe attacks?

outer whale
#

So I did a general look at everyone and here's what i found:

N: Wants you to debuff special attack and special defense, dark sync type move, but also has psychic.

Sidney: will constantly spam bulldoze and icy wind so he can use slo-pponent sync 3. Need someone to bypass this.

Agatha: pretty straightforward, just have fun with no WTZ and debuffing defenses will help a lot.

Fantina: (APPARENTLY? has crit shield, i did not see vigilance. But her spiritomb side has Stored power.)

Acerola: Paing. Wants you to lower spdef asap or else say hi to Scholar sync 3. Also HAS FAIRY TYPE MOVES. Dark types beware.

royal tiger
#

For sidney, imma run akari who can buff her own spd at 2/5 o.o

outer whale
#

You need someone who can protect everyone from speed debuffs overall

#

Plus no techs

#

So that's fun

royal tiger
#

Rachel can work hrm or nc calem

#

Did u notice, most of them have team pinpoint entry 1?

outer whale
#

Team pinpoint entry will be problematic yea, i'll go into more indepth this weekend.

#

I have to go to work

storm sinew
#

brycen man and zinnia thievul have no stat reduction field for Sidney

sullen pier
#

except they are both tech

acoustic quarry
outer whale
#

Lmao

storm sinew
#

oh Sidney is the no tech one i see

royal tiger
#

Ive got this great urge to use nc serena somewhere .-.

royal tiger
#

In this hse

#

One of the sides is water and dark weak iirc

haughty haven
#
  • more about Sidney: he doesn’t have Bulldoze, sidemon has it but it uses after mid die
#

Trip up 9 from side is a big problem

acoustic quarry
mortal timber
outer whale
mortal timber
#

Life is good, love to skip this SeleneLUL

haughty haven
#

Oh right, summer

mortal timber
#

Wishing gl to everyone going for this

#

From the bottom of my heart

haughty haven
mortal timber
#

Hell yeah buddy

paper mist
#

So you’re saying there’s a chance for me LucianScheme

outer whale
#

Oh look.... dhelmise is weak to ice. I WONDER WHO USE ic-...

haughty haven
#

And my Ghost and Dark isn’t great so

mortal timber
#

Me too

outer whale
#

Real talk i don't even know if they will be good for this hse tbh

mortal timber
#

Just ex’ing the supports cuz I need them on the future

#

But that’s it

outer whale
#

Sailorla might only be good for fantina and agatha

#

And captain gardenia only good for like.... what... acerola?

mortal timber
#

That’s awesome

paper mist
#

I doubt Mix will give me any copies and I only have 8 yellow candies and 2 tech candies after I 5/5 CyruSS

mortal timber
#

Both good for HSE

#

Gardenia has a tailored stage

#

And jelly has positive rebuff

outer whale
#

I can't do a deepdive on the units yet.

haughty haven
paper mist
#

Listen

outer whale
#

Listened

paper mist
#

I have no field candies

outer whale
#

F

paper mist
#

And what if

mortal timber
#

I am giving mine to Geeta

paper mist
#

That’s why I can only use like 1 yellow at a time

#

The dreaded what if

#

The fact that the new rival pairs are 5star and the villain among them is also a Field is RikuDead

haughty haven
#

Dena learns

#

They know we want free pair, but they make them really times consuming

paper mist
#

Not that I ever see myself using Gladion outside of LG due to his shit kit but

haughty haven
#

They have 4 stars kit and Dena makes 5 start so we cant candy them

paper mist
#

He would be okay for me to use if he had support exr or something but alas. Could have given me a triple villain team with cgio and Ghetsis

#

And I don’t see Marnie being too useful in this HS either

royal tiger
mortal timber
#

Oh akari is already 3/5 here so

#

No other choices left

royal tiger
#

Though ive got 5 omni candies .-.

paper mist
#

My Akari is one of those 1/5

mortal timber
#

Maybe I could start ny Wallace

#

Boh

#

Will see

haughty haven
#

I have 3 1/5 Field

paper mist
#

Mix has never given me anything in time for a HS, only after it ends do I get a new pair I could’ve used

haughty haven
#

idk why i dont bother EX Blue

#

He just seem boring to me

paper mist
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Got SSMay after Fire, got a Victor copy after Grass, nothing for Psychic, nothing for Water/Fairy…

haughty haven
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I dont have much Sprint RosaThink

outer whale
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I'm more or less screwed for this HSE anyhow, all my damage dealers are 1/5

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And i don't feel likke wasting candies

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Also what are the extra rule criterias this month?

haughty haven
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Wasting candy on non-favorite is bad ~~ that me for Hs climbing ~~

haughty haven
outer whale
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No the 1000 pt rules

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Like theme skill and other factor

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Like do i need to sleep or confuse? What?

haughty haven
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  • Flinch
  • Gymleader or seasonal
outer whale
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Seasonal CourtneyBruh

haughty haven
sullen pier
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Time trial
Stat debuffs
Stat buffs

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iirc

outer whale
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Ok that's not too bad actually

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But that seasonal tag is just. Why you do

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OH WAIT FALL PHOEBE GOATED IN THIS MODE

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Omg

paper mist
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Most likely because of Fall always having 1 ghost so far

outer whale
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I forgor she existed

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TabithaHehe i have a chance, 3/5 Fheobe

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Flinch, seasonal, and is a tanky coffin

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I miight not even need the new seasonal units, i literally have fallister, Fhoebe, NC Calem, SC Lillie, and other general support units.... except tierno

sullen pier
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Full point on each stage is not possible this time VolknerDed freaking time trial

outer whale
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FALL CAITLIN TOO

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My only issue is my damGe dealers are trash. Most of them 1/5

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Brycen man, Sc irida, Ssrcynthia, ss cyrus, NC Marnie, selenebreon and whst not... all 1/5

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So rip

paper mist
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What’s fun will be seeing everyone’s frustration when they constantly gotta reset for perfect effects from Lillie and Allister’s TMs HeheBoy

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Have fun with that 5% zone chance

outer whale
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Bold of you to assume i'd want zone for lillie

paper mist
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I will not be bothering for it

outer whale
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I'd want the stat reduction shield for Sidney

haughty haven
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She weaks to Dark btw

outer whale
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.....

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Welp