High Score

[cyan tusk]

Thunder can’t miss under rain

[stray dust]

Yeah I know

I guess I can try 950?

Idk

[haughty haven]

Can SS Kris outheal Blizzard at that Str ?

[oak fulcrum]

I think so because the blizzard misses more often from accuracy drops from dahlia

[haughty haven]

I know accurate drop is a thing there

I used May-Misty-SS Kris for old Water HS

But Rng still mostly again us

Soooo

[cyan tusk]

We did not have dahila or Archie back in the days

But I mean you can roll ice beam instead of blizzard

Also

[stray dust]

This is gonna be fun

[haughty haven]

Yeah, pray Ice Beam

Solution done

[cyan tusk]

Hse is all about fun

[night sleet]

And pray dont get freeze

[haughty haven]

I swear enemy freeze change is so high

[night sleet]

Yeap

This freeze screw me some runs

[haughty haven]

Remember LG, 10% freeze from Ice Punch
50% Freeze from Ice Punch

[night sleet]

In lg is more chance for 10%😘

[stray dust]

True it's either it happens or it doesn't in hse

Serena flinch also feels like 50% to ruin the first turns for me in marlon

[oak fulcrum]

well pulled out 100k on Marlon using SS Blue/EMisty/Cerena and it wasn't pretty or at the highest strength I could do but it's done and I kinda don't want to do it again

[sturdy matrix]

Marlon hits quite hard

[oak fulcrum]

he was hitting harder than the sides were (poliwrath kept missing 2/3 on surf and the barbaracle died to a cerena sync right after mid died to a cerena sync)

[stray dust]

Just pray for water pulse

[oak fulcrum]

Misty wasn't kind with the potion mpr but they weren't needed into a dodge check lol

[stray dust]

I mean once u learn how the sequence goes it's all rng farming

I still hate Marlon tho

Flashbacks to first hse

[oak fulcrum]

I'm not entirely convinced I do know the sequence, I probably put too many debuffs into Marlon and overkilled with second sync

[cyan tusk]

Honestly he’s not the worst

Elio is a nightmare bc you have no choice of good RNG

[haughty haven]

Back then we bullied Marlon

[cyan tusk]

Is either liquidation or sparkling aria

[stray dust]

I mean we still do now

[cyan tusk]

Both 3 bars move

[stray dust]

"oh u going to use a move I sing"

[haughty haven]

At least Elio only uses 3 Sparling Area

Imagine Elio spamming that

[stray dust]

Nightmare fuel

[cyan tusk]

I got 950 on Marlon and I’m going for 1K with exr eusine

[haughty haven]

Volkner spamming swift already a nightmare

[stray dust]

Technically there is between accuracy drop and confusion

[haughty haven]

Yeah, Elio has low lessen confusion

[cyan tusk]

Flint

For me flint in fire hse was the worst ever stage

[haughty haven]

I hate Chili more

[cyan tusk]

Chili I gave up bc my gears did not give enough strength

[haughty haven]

2 Flare Blitz my behate

[stray dust]

It honestly feels pretty good when u dodge the hyper beams that u need to

[haughty haven]

I miss Snarl side mon

[oak fulcrum]

hm which one of these teams will be easier to do at a slightly higher strength for 5k points so I can break 500k

[haughty haven]

Idk if NC Leaf can do 1000 Str without that sidemon

[oak fulcrum]

Valerie is lower strength but stupid rolls, Penny just needs my Penny to live slightly longer (I just want help deciding which one to reset)

[haughty haven]

What a problem at Valerie stage ?

I thought it should be higher

[oak fulcrum]

it definitely can be I just don't know if I have the strength to run that right now

Valerie is 550 atm and hasn't been improved since my second run, Penny's been improved a couple times up to 750 but can probably go 800 easily

[cyan tusk]

Valerie for sure

[haughty haven]

Oh, that team doesn’t any reliable way to heal team other than GH

[cyan tusk]

Did you grid Lyra for atk drops?

[oak fulcrum]

yep

[outer whale]

you can easily get 80K plus.

[haughty haven]

That why the score is lower than it should be

[outer whale]

@oak fulcrum you have fairy guard on SS Mina right?

[cyan tusk]

You can easily demolish Valerie to 100K with that team, don’t forget syncro healing

[haughty haven]

4/5 DJ Gloria can heal herself right ?

[oak fulcrum]

yeah lyra is already gridded with SH, Mina has Fairy Guard

[oak fulcrum]

yes I grabbed this tile by mistake and it might end up being correct

[haughty haven]

You should have it

HP condition

Bc that team lacks reliable way to heal team

[oak fulcrum]

let me throw the grids I have for valerie onto pomatools, that's the one I'm missing in my own doc

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=003401078800&s0=3&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=24011801&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFBg4RExUXGBsuLzAyMw&v1=000200013400&s1=3&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13016303&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFBggLDQ4VGBkjJSks&v2=019601072100&s2=3&l2=150&r2=6&p2=0&a2=13016303&t2=44444&x2=true&g2=AAECAwQFDA0QEhMVLTAxMg really I think Lyra might want to go Adrenaline LS and pick up the accuracy tile because I remember misses being a problem

[austere ferry]

asked in the sync grid channel, but maybe people here might offer a different insight: I’ve had 2/5 SS Kris for the longest and didnt have any issues so far… i’m now 4x support candies hoarded, does she really need the 3/5? Like, in this HSE event, where does her 3/5 grid make a difference?

[cyan tusk]

It means the world bc of mini potion stuff

We have the hp parameter this time

[night sleet]

Mini potion mp and baricade buddies for hse

Get 3/5

[austere ferry]

oh lol, didnt think of it like that. Was checking out her grid, and thinking which boosting tiles would make my run better lol

[cyan tusk]

The more hp you have the high you score

[mighty roost]

Mini potion and Rain refresh and gauge acceleration to all

3/5 is the way

[austere ferry]

so something like this (tweaked Spark's heal tank suggestion a bit):

[stray dust]

Grids are different for hse and general uses

[cyan tusk]

If you don’t need speed you can go for the other MH tile or drop also staggering and go for refreshing rain

[austere ferry]

thanks for the suggestions! I made my SS Kris 3/5 finally. going for mini potion tiles + barricade + rain catalyzing (+6 energy might as well)

[mortal timber]

DUDE SO FUMING RN, 1 HP LAPRAS, ALL ALIVE, THE FREEZE DENYING ME TO FINISH THE BATTLE WITH BRINE

I am going to explode

[hardy fog]

Dabs. I’ve been doing Elio for 5 hours minimum. I had more than 3 runs where I survive 2nd sync with full team but found the finish line yet. Feeling ya bro.

[mortal timber]

This is my 2nd day

DAY

I am tired I just wanna get over this

[outer whale]

This.... wasn't as bad as i thought?

The biggest thing is just praying for flinch and confusion not messing up post sync

[cyan tusk]

Do like me
Don’t try hard, relax

[outer whale]

So my thought process rn...

I have ss wally, sycamore, alcremie, summer Marnie, NC Serena, Elio, Volo, SS Blue, Sycamore, SS Mina and Spring Burgh still available for either Elio or Marlon..... i'm conflicted

[hardy fog]

Life of having too many units

[outer whale]

My thought process is

Marlon: Ss Blue, Elio, Nc Serena
Elio: SS Mina/Alcremie/SS Wally, but the other options

[hardy fog]

I’m running that Elio comp

That Marlon one looks solid

I think can do 110k+

Fa4 prob

[outer whale]

Elio comp i'm conflicted..

It's hard to even make a good team that can deal with sides.

Thankfully sides take a while to KO you but man...

[hardy fog]

Haha well acremie have -ACC

And confusion

It’s def doable. I’m not giving up on 820 though

I think I can do it

[cyan tusk]

Swap alcremie with SpBurgh

If 3/5

Sp is broken in this hse for me

[oak fulcrum]

This was hard until I started just spamming Fake Tears with VLyra then I realized that 700 is still too easy for this team

[outer whale]

1/5 spburgh

[outer whale]

That was 700?!

[oak fulcrum]

yeah I ended with 235% HP

Lyra and Lysssandre were full

[outer whale]

Wait no confusion

That's why

[oak fulcrum]

flabbergast 4 draining kiss

[outer whale]

It looks incredibly low for 700

[oak fulcrum]

I only got 1650 for more attacks

since Lyssandre one shot sides

[outer whale]

Ahhh

[oak fulcrum]

I'll probably 850 it another day but it got me in the 500k club as is

[untold rampart]

Just did Penny at 600 strength (took way too long). Really wondering if I'm using sub-optimal teams or not.

Misty 750
Marlon 550
Elio 550 (haven't redone this one yet)
Valerie 800
Penny 600

[hardy fog]

Nice one!

[hardy fog]

Good work 👏

5/5 lyss is so tempting

[cyan tusk]

Try to spam some heat waves and muddy waters

[oak fulcrum]

There might be a single leeway turn to do this but also a higher strength should hopefully help the sides live sync instead of be deleted from existence

[cyan tusk]

But you should sync with Vlyra only

[oak fulcrum]

she couldn't do the last bit of damage needed to kill mid

mid was 7% with second sync ready when it died

[cyan tusk]

Are you running this grid?

try to keep one rain from Mina for last Lyra sync

[oak fulcrum]

I could be on that grid now, I gridded for 95% accurate muddy water and then didn't click it the whole time

[cyan tusk]

Just fake tears the mid

[oak fulcrum]

but then sides kill me

sides need to die to a couple steam eruptions each

[cyan tusk]

Confuse them and drop some accuracy 👀

[oak fulcrum]

tried that and lyss still didn't outpace

[cyan tusk]

Stupid lyss

Is he caked?

[oak fulcrum]

yes

I'll try 800 keeping mid at -6 spdef and bring sides to like -3 I guess

[main pulsar]

I heard his grid doesn’t change his dps much

[hardy fog]

This dmg parameter kinda encourages to over sync

I wonder what is max points for. Ssblue lyss bede.

Does it look like It can do 100k on Valerie if lyss is 3/5?

[mortal timber]

totally imo

[main pulsar]

I think bede probably not made for valerie

[mortal timber]

hard knocks 9 can help with random atk debuffs and ofc, spdef

not the best ofc but surely an option for doing 100k with ss blue ss lys

[main pulsar]

Why not use him against elio I mean

I suspect that’s where he should go?

[mortal timber]

i used him vs elio

the run was a bit weird

if only i can finish misty so i can share everything optimized

[hardy fog]

I did use bede on Elio with bede but there is so much double up.

With Wally

[main pulsar]

I’m banging my head with pykuo team

[hardy fog]

-sp def. I can use mg2 with any aoe fairy. Sp attack. Wally does this himself

[main pulsar]

I hate liquidation as a move now

It has become a trigger

[hardy fog]

Lol. Doesn’t sycamore get all his hp back?

But to be honest. You kinda need potion mpr at least 2 extra.

[cyan tusk]

Def yes max bomb to kill mid before 2nd Valerie sync

Sun boosted heat waves 👀

[hardy fog]

Ok I’ll try my best. I think my roster can get 550k. So let’s see where I land without burning out

[hollow prism]

How shit is the Cerena Elio SwimMisty clear on Marlon

Is it RNG hell

[hardy fog]

Summary of my elio runs.

[hardy fog]

It wasn't horrible

[visual kayak]

I need to get this finished by tomorrow, are there any of these challenges where a monster is basically perfect for the run

[hardy fog]

Maybe took me 90min

[hardy fog]

Pinned. There is a grading doc for each pair

[visual kayak]

👍

[hollow prism]

Any other good units I can use to tank for Archie May on Misty?

I have to move off Swim Misty from Misty

You think Lana would work?

[waxen thorn]

no ss kris or mina i assume

[cyan tusk]

We are in RNG hell

[cyan tusk]

You need a spdef unit bc it’s a special stage

So I guess og Misty

[cunning shore]

It's so horrible i changed the team for it

What if

I do Archie/SS Gladion/SSKris in the same team

And Completely change my penny team to a rain team

Oh wait

Penny no zone stage

Nvm

My brain should go sleep

[sharp hedge]

big oof

[waxen thorn]

Tri attack freeze

[visual kayak]

On 1st glance thinking team 1-5

I have archie for team 1 as well

Any generic comments appreciated

[oak fulcrum]

split kriss and ssmina unless low move levels maybe

[visual kayak]

Mina only level 1

Penny 1

[cyan tusk]

Nice team!

[waxen thorn]

ty

i'm still testing valerie teams

[trim beacon]

@cyan tusk Teams

How did u get 600k

[cyan tusk]

Shhh don’t bring bad luck

It’s not 600K yet!

[sharp hedge]

i knew mina could tank valerie

nice work!

[radiant kelp]

Finally got to top 100! :D

Valerie and Penny feel weak. Esp Valerie, not sure who could fit better to swap around.

[sonic pivot]

Whats the strategy for marlon?
I keep dying to the adds

[radiant kelp]

From my understanding, debuff evasion with Cserena and get very lucky dodging.

Take middle down and pray to dodge pretty much every side attack as you get those down after.

[sonic pivot]

I see thank you

[radiant kelp]

Ouff. Relying on Blastoise for confusion is miserable.

[sharp hedge]

its not that bad tbh

20% chance and at higher str it definitely procs somewhere along the way

[waxen thorn]

(from the pins)

what is this document?

couldn't find it in the pins

nvm found it #1128052735967764621 message

[trim beacon]

But I need help I cri

[hardy fog]

Aren't you like 550k

[stable tulip]

had to use sst red for misty

good enough

[stray dust]

Aren't you like 560k

[radiant kelp]

What strength was your Valerie at? :0

[trim beacon]

Yes but clearly they used DIFFERENT TEAMS

I must know

Plsss

[stray dust]

At this point I think knowing the 600k team means u are in top 10 and people likely won't be giving those strats away so easily

[haughty haven]

Even if we know, we dont have enough pair-Move level-Gear-times to do it

[hardy fog]

Technically. Uber tier gears can be bought

[round stone]

What?

[waxen thorn]

buying pins prob

[stray dust]

Doubling pins on a gear most likely

[trim beacon]

I do

Why else would I ASK

[trim beacon]

But I seek wisdom

As the God of wisdom u MUST surely understand why

[hardy fog]

Nah bro. You just buy stamina and keep buying feathers until you get a good piece

[round stone]

Stamina refill cap:

[wooden sparrow]

actually having to make my own team comps cause this hse is so diverse with dual-types, can't believe i have to have an original thought

[waxen thorn]

^

[round stone]

^

[outer whale]

well.... I improved my score

@onyx crystal

[stable tulip]

i had trouble with 300 str valerie

i wonder if i can improve valerie/misty 🤔

[outer whale]

I can tell you rn, that elio battle can get to 80k

If you have Alcremie, boom.

[stable tulip]

noted

[outer whale]

With misty, you need a rain setter.

My updated score... trying to improve Penny.

I still have the following: Volo, Spring Burgh, EX Kris, NY Lisia, Vlyra, and Summer Marnie....

[cunning shore]

Ooop

[outer whale]

but rn, i'm conflicted on how to get a team with Volo for confusion to work

oh, i still have Sycamore too

[cunning shore]

I would love any of the mentioned

[cunning shore]

Ngl though, if you're using SSBlue for Marlon i feel that should be much higher

Cerena + SS Blue
Expensive

I say much higher

But i mean like 10-20k higher atleast

[night sleet]

Told you ss kriss is a play:)

[outer whale]

it's an HP issue

that's at 650 Str

[sharp hedge]

2/5 blue cant really heal much

[outer whale]

i have to rely on flinch/confusion/sleep stalling

and the worst part of it all

I need to quadqueue ELIO SLEEP

[sharp hedge]

2/5 gets him like triage tank?

or tfb

one is made to ruin quadqueue for godknows why

[outer whale]

he has a passive that increases Spatk anytime he gets hit

but Quadqueueing for sync isn't that much trouble because of quick attack, it's Elio's

[hardy fog]

Do you think on Links team. The tanks are optimized for Valerie and Marlon? Seems like I've seen more the other way around. Ie ss blue for Val. Misty for Marlon

But it looks like your version works too

Feels like Val team have tough gauge

[outer whale]

Gauge isn't that bad honestly.

I use steam eruption first then TM,

It's all about working with the Trainer moves

[sharp hedge]

it does look a bit tough to manage

id prob swap misty and ss blue yeah

[hardy fog]

The sp def does look attractive for Valerie though

[sharp hedge]

i still think bede mina ss lys are the best for that stage

[hasty zenith]

The perfect 500 run no flinching, 100k possible?

[graceful pike]

Nice play

[haughty haven]

Got 4/5 Rei from daily, and i already see what i need to do for future fighting HS

[graceful pike]

5/5 +10 let's go

Dodge

[sharp hedge]

[hasty zenith]

Thanks, but it's a true nightmare for me Mainly because of the slow move gauge and relying on MPR. I think I lost one whole sync cycle because of that

[hardy fog]

Highest score you have seen on that?

[sharp hedge]

no

just in theory

[night sleet]

On wat stage?

[sharp hedge]

valerie

[night sleet]

Lol this theory make one big issue

Fairy zone:)

[sharp hedge]

adept did 700str a while ago

and said it was too easy for the team

[night sleet]

She have fairy moves

[sharp hedge]

i know

but it is mina so

[night sleet]

She have physical moves

You will get hit for sure when zone up its one hit ko

[sharp hedge]

fairy guard and rain gear from grid should be enough

by sync?

[night sleet]

Rain will end soon or latter

[sharp hedge]

the point is not takinng fairy kingdom

theres def a way to make it work

heres the thing

if you kill mid

the sides wont spam fairy moves

[outer whale]

WHAT IS THIS TEAM COMP?

[sharp hedge]

bulldoze and surf

[outer whale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93MyY4IzzP4

[hollow prism]

I TOLD YOU Glojo Sycamore was going to go crazy on Elio

[outer whale]

this dude really took 2 syncs

[hollow prism]

Ramos moment

[sharp hedge]

katherine didnt crit and failed to deny hyperbeam

@hardy fog hows your run going

[hardy fog]

Still on elio

Haha

I'm determined

But honestly the best run I got was when I just woke up. And I was down to the sides with all 3 up. Then I nuked the hyper beam... by accident and then I died to swift don't do it first thing in the morning...

[sharp hedge]

i need to offtype the last one cause nomore “tank”

[hardy fog]

Sycamore. Ssblue. Misty. Acremie. + any premium ones.

Surely there are 5!

[sharp hedge]

alcremie is secondary tank

just like elio

already used blue syca misty

ss kris or mina mix daily when

[hardy fog]

Does mf get mixed?

I hope you candied sc irida. Because personally after using both mina seems much more fun haha

[stray dust]

@haughty haven hi there

[sharp hedge]

no

shes such a fun unit though

i like her kit

[hardy fog]

She just has a fat b move that stuns. That's what it feels like 😂

[sharp hedge]

well shes a striker afterall

attack down and eva might be useful in hs too

[cyan tusk]

Hs is giving me rhythm to upgrade units actually

I’ve waited to candy eusine and penny even tho I knew I would have done it bc their 5/5 grids so good tbf

[hardy fog]

Yea fair enough. I think I couldn't have helped myself anyway. Would have gone broke yoloing for her.

[mortal timber]

Unironically i will have a tech cake role tomorrow

[hardy fog]

Def agree with the candy situation. I mean I don't have much, but I don't get the hoarding situation either. Pixels rotting and not getting max fun from your units haha. If it's resource that goes up in value and can be resold, it would make me rethink.

[cyan tusk]

Well rn they’re throwing at us too much stuff so a bit of hoarding is needed

[sharp hedge]

didnt expect 1/5 lyra nuke is so bad

[hardy fog]

I don't mean not save.

I think it's reasonable to keep enough resource to always be able to max 3 units per month would be sufficient.

[forest ferry]

3 max units per month

That sounds like dream

[cyan tusk]

They should handle battle rally events to get more resources.
And also they should add some cake coins in the monthly shop to be exchanged with mysterious stones and more candy coins imo

[sharp hedge]

hs is like their biggest profit right now

pain and suffering

[acoustic tendon]

are there any units I can move around to improve my scores? I'd like to try to get top 1k

[hardy fog]

Heeey nice Marlon. What's the comp

[cyan tusk]

I think you can def get higher points on Marlon but better swap the tank

[hardy fog]

Penny too

[cyan tusk]

Bc Elio is special and Marlon is physical

[sharp hedge]

overkill team

stacking cerena and dahlia because my dahlia is 1/5

splitting them wont add much

[forest ferry]

How is your elio team only 74k but 124k on Marlon

[sharp hedge]

did you see my elio team

[forest ferry]

What you used?

[sharp hedge]

katherine

[forest ferry]

My run vs elio was also bricked coz of her

[cunning shore]

Oho

Ohoo

I saw a few cool comps

[acoustic tendon]

thanks, I'll swap him out and try to get higher. though I think I'd be missing out on rival/MC

[sharp hedge]

only bede can save my valerie right now

i tried nc blue 1/5 lyra 1/5 eusine 900str and it didnt work

lyra sync is wet noodle

[mortal timber]

Bede saved me kinda with Elio, because I needed a strong nuke that wasn't lodge Lillie

When misty is gone I will drop my comps, if you see penny you would scream

[sharp hedge]

i wouldve used lodge lillie if she is mc/rival or flabbergast

but i dont have the team to fit all the rules

[cunning shore]

I was thinking I might or should swap around some teams.
So relevant units remaining: Eusine, Elio, (Diantha?)

[sharp hedge]

what str on elio?

[forest ferry]

diantha is bricked so

[cunning shore]

500

[sharp hedge]

no confusion can get you 80k?

[cunning shore]

Yes

[sharp hedge]

hmmm

[forest ferry]

Lodge Lillie is so busted for this HS

[haughty haven]

Sad, she is a real mc after all

[forest ferry]

Synchrohealing hard carries thx to HP condition

[cunning shore]

She's so shit

She dies

[sharp hedge]

true!

[cunning shore]

In that clear

She's dead

No lie

[sharp hedge]

bro you think katherine didnt die to swift

[forest ferry]

Skill issue

Mine remained at full HP

Vs elio

[sharp hedge]

not only she failed to deny hyperbeam because no crit

[cunning shore]

[haughty haven]

Yeah, L Lillie is a really good pair at medium Str

[mortal timber]

Exactly, at medium str

Once you bump up

It's over haha

[cunning shore]

She dies at med str too

[forest ferry]

Once you bump up, 90% of units don't even work

[mortal timber]

Doubt

[forest ferry]

nah, she never dies till 600 str

[cunning shore]

Would Eusine work better than Lillie

[haughty haven]

Sycamore is type of that pair too

[sharp hedge]

probably not

[cunning shore]

WHERE CAN I FIT EUSINE

[haughty haven]

He really good at medium str, but high str he useless

[sharp hedge]

sycamore without drops are getting 2 shots

[cunning shore]

I WANT TO THROW HIM IN SOMEWHERE

[sharp hedge]

even at 500str

[forest ferry]

Sycamore suk in mix stages

You get 2 liquidation back to back and he folds

[haughty haven]

Enemy both bulkier = less drain HP, hit harder and nuke harder

[forest ferry]

Even at mid str

[mortal timber]

Skill issue, just have +6 Def and atk debuffs

Omegalul

[sharp hedge]

im more scared of double sparkling aria cause katherine just died instantly

[mortal timber]

He lives any liquidation

With a suit and tie

Elegance is important

[haughty haven]

-6 Def too, he will out heal Elio

[cunning shore]

Stoic 2 makes him able to eat liqudiation np

[haughty haven]

[mortal timber]

He knows

[haughty haven]

But but Water Guard

[mortal timber]

Defense crush 2 alcremie ftw

[forest ferry]

Running another tank to buff defense means no confusion

[cunning shore]

Can't fully buff his defense then

[mortal timber]

Alcremie has gobsmack 4

[haughty haven]

Just run SS Wally

[mortal timber]

Smh smh

[sharp hedge]

this is why katherine

[forest ferry]

My ice cream is busy in another stage

[haughty haven]

Oh yeah, the cream already can confuse

[forest ferry]

ye and Katherine is bricked

[sharp hedge]

[haughty haven]

If only the cream can EX, it’ll be so good

[forest ferry]

If my ice cream was free I could score 75k with SSTred probs

[haughty haven]

As a 2nd tank, debuffer, healer, defensive buffer

[cunning shore]

So

Eusine

Where

[mortal timber]

At the park 🏞️

Jk I dunno

[cunning shore]

[mortal timber]

In theory in May's place

[haughty haven]

Definitely not in rain team unless you have rain extended

[sharp hedge]

ask bicio

[haughty haven]

[sharp hedge]

[mortal timber]

Practically no idea

Depends how many copies etc

[cunning shore]

I don't think i can have any more rain teams

[forest ferry]

If eusine is 5/5 bench archie

Otherwise bench eusine

[cunning shore]

May outscores him

[mortal timber]

Based, noting that

[cunning shore]

Disgusting thought

[haughty haven]

Ofc, accurate debuff

[forest ferry]

may evasion hax rly good

[cunning shore]

Not only does she out-evade him

But her nukes better

[haughty haven]

All evasion buffer, accurate debuffer have some spot in HS

[forest ferry]

I wish I had Kriss then I could do high str run vs misty

[cunning shore]

Pykuo
You say water guard +2 defense
Is better than
+6 defense? Vs liqudiation?

[forest ferry]

Mina is

Waterguard+2 def better

[haughty haven]

Uhhhh, you can test it yourself

[cunning shore]

Technically
You still can, just need even more rng

[cunning shore]

That's a pain to test

[forest ferry]

Ye, Mina only recover once

[haughty haven]

My Sycamore is +6 Def with Water Guard so he can outheal Elio at 680Str

[forest ferry]

so I am suffering

[cunning shore]

Bruhhh

I can't get +6 defense and crit in same comp

Either this or that

[haughty haven]

With Atk debuff and Def debuff ofc

[cunning shore]

Yeah lodge lillie doing that

[haughty haven]

My Sycamore only has +2 Crit

Oh yeah

[forest ferry]

icecream gets sycamore to +2 crit, confusion and max defenses

[haughty haven]

L Lillie cant buff crit

[cunning shore]

I have
Sycamore stoic
Lillie mind games2
Hilbert dc2

I don't have crit buffers left

[forest ferry]

Lillie want CS2

[cunning shore]

It works out because she dies like a lil ~something~~~

[haughty haven]

Yup, i planned it from days 1 when we know the stage

The cream just cover enough Sycamore’s weakness

[forest ferry]

Well I use penny with Lillie

CS2 is the way

[sharp hedge]

can i have two cream

i need it in two different stage

[forest ferry]

1/5 penny actually carrying

[sharp hedge]

[haughty haven]

We should have all Cream flavors

[cunning shore]

If i had penny

I would probably use her on my last stage

With Bede and Gladionn

[forest ferry]

Well I am running penny, Lillie, ice cream vs penny

My elio team is using sstred

[mortal timber]

I do, a minute by foot from here

[forest ferry]

[mortal timber]

A nice ice cream 🍨

[forest ferry]

if I get 2/5 penny I can replace ice cream for smth else

[haughty haven]

🍨

[forest ferry]

And run ice cream vs elio

It'll probably bump my score to another 15-20k potentially

[haughty haven]

The cream

So important

[cunning shore]

Ughhhhhhh
I want a better score on my fairy stages

[sharp hedge]

💳

[mortal timber]

TRUE!!!

[haughty haven]

Yeah, my fairy stage are the lowest pts

[mortal timber]

So true bestie

The card

[forest ferry]

Fix your cerena score first

[night sleet]

💳

[forest ferry]

98k with her is bricked

[cunning shore]

No, I ain't gonna redo that

[forest ferry]

Not even 110k

[cunning shore]

I am done with her

Fuck evasion runs

I am tired

[forest ferry]

[cunning shore]

I changed the whole idea because of that

Look at my comp, no elio

No sleep

I just brute it

Brute with good hp

[forest ferry]

My cerena run had all units dead except swimisty with right side still alive at like 80% HP

I just water gun spammed to victory with 0 potions

Just do it

[cunning shore]

Yeahhhhh nooooo

[haughty haven]

I had a really good run at 850Str, where all my pairs still alive

[sharp hedge]

theres still a week left to reset

[cunning shore]

I am willing to upgrade every other run

[haughty haven]

The problem, Cerena didn’t confusion

[cunning shore]

No one will convince me to redo Marlon unless it's evasion-less run

[haughty haven]

-3000 pts

[forest ferry]

850 str with full alive team probably still 115k even without confusion

[cunning shore]

Yeah

[haughty haven]

Alive

Not full HP

[forest ferry]

Oh

[cunning shore]

Well not bad still

[forest ferry]

Fine 110k

[cunning shore]

Alive 20% each

[haughty haven]

Close to that

[forest ferry]

Well it's still good run

[hardy fog]

Come on 😂

[haughty haven]

[cunning shore]

Me doing daily wally in hopes to do better vs Elio -

[forest ferry]

I want to gamba for Wally

[haughty haven]

How many hours?

[forest ferry]

But next month has MF probs

[haughty haven]

Make me remember 1000Str Sabrina, 5 days and i couldn’t do it

[cunning shore]

I am skipping this month (apart from Sabrina)

[haughty haven]

I’ll yolo the hammer

[cunning shore]

Nah hard skipping everything else

Gem count so shit

Atleast 2 MF next month

[forest ferry]

Gem count always shit

It's been like that past 2 years already

[haughty haven]

But, but max Paldea

[forest ferry]

I am coping for free koraidon or miraidon for paldea dps

[cunning shore]

Pls

[cunning shore]

Give one free

[haughty haven]

I’m still max Paldea rn

[cunning shore]

I got 5 Paldea

So not bad

[forest ferry]

Only paldea unit I have is 1/5 penny

[cunning shore]

Sadge

[haughty haven]

I remember Nemona is a bait

[cunning shore]

I went for it anyways

[haughty haven]

Jesus she released when NC Kanto was there

[sharp hedge]

dont

[haughty haven]

Me too

[sharp hedge]

not worth

[haughty haven]

[forest ferry]

I know

[cunning shore]

2 baits I went for knowing fully well it was bait

Nemona and SSTeven

[forest ferry]

Steven is not bait

Only unit better than him was gladion

[cunning shore]

Well he was right before anni

So bait

[sharp hedge]

he was before anni

twice

[forest ferry]

And anni was worse than him

[sharp hedge]

[forest ferry]

Gladion also pre anni

But better than both

[haughty haven]

Luckily i didnt get punished

[sharp hedge]

i wouldnt say nc silver and geeta are worse than him though

[haughty haven]

[forest ferry]

It's Steven
They are worse than him
Atleast rn

Silver has arguments

[haughty haven]

Ah yes, SS Steven, the Tech/Striker/Support/Sprint/20% Field

[forest ferry]

Since you can greed with him and nate but

Deoxys also has no multipliers on nuke and his PB is only getting 30%

So he's scaling with most of modern supports better than Geeta

[haughty haven]

He does, just not in grid

[forest ferry]

It's only innate and tech ex

Not actual multipliers like brain power

So smth like volo or NCblue make his nuke go even more crazy

Just with 20% extra

[cunning shore]

Welll

Innate

But its rising tide

Soooo

[forest ferry]

Steven is main reason why jacq is overtuned

Only need 18 buffs

To max

He already +9 himself in atk form

[haughty haven]

9 ?

I thought 10

[cunning shore]

Why would he be by himself though

And technically speaking he has upside down + cosmic power
If he really really wanted to max out his own stats

[forest ferry]

That's why he's so good

[cunning shore]

It's not impossible

[forest ferry]

Well you don't need to spam cosmic power
Another support would max it for him easily

[cunning shore]

So one good multiplier not bad after all

[forest ferry]

Waiting for a psychic terrain volo

surely it'll come to replace lana

[haughty haven]

Lana already has her best friend, V Elio

[hardy fog]

Fuk prob 8

Not worth it

[rough forum]

@onyx crystal unless I can scrape other 2k somewhere, this will probably be my final score

560 (no confusion)
770
500
640 (no rival/MC)
450

Fucked up how swapping mina over alcremie and by proxy losing confusion bonus, netted more points by sheer hp and damage

[sharp hedge]

made it to 480k

i’ll redo some stage to fish for 500k 🐟

[cyan tusk]

You can do it

[stray dust]

the rng run with 950 str

[cyan tusk]

Nice! Did you fish for easy pickings from dahila?

[thorny grove]

I think these are the teams I’m running with. I already did some runs before and have to reset Misty to make this work. But any advice would be appreciated.

[cyan tusk]

Number 5 is not taking advantage of fairy zone unfortunately

In this scenario I might suggest to swap number 2 with 5

[thorny grove]

I also will likely switch around the second and fifth battles since Mina may not work well for that stage but I’ll see how it goes I suppose.
I already have a 100k clear on the second stage so I wanna try to keep it in if possible

[cyan tusk]

Lol

[thorny grove]

Yeah lol I figured

I’ve reset runs and teams like 5 times now just trying to figure out what works for these stages this time around.

[stray dust]

Yeah

It's a lot of fishing between Kris tm and pot mpr

And blizzard dodges

Pray for ice beams too

[thorny grove]

Tbh I’m kinda shocked and let down by blue. Man has just not aged well and really can’t hold his own sometimes but that aoe Endurance Support Sync still helps a lot.

[stray dust]

Also dahlia not failing to crit sync

[thorny grove]

Oh boy I’m doing the harder version of that because I already used Dahlia

[stray dust]

I mean

May can go up to 110k

[thorny grove]

Yeah that’s what I’m hoping for. I saw the jp vid that was sent in here a while ago. I already copied it lol

[stray dust]

Potion mpr goes brrrr

[cyan tusk]

If you want the best from SSBlue in this event you need to tank with him under rain and give him+10 extra energy

The hp parameter kinda cuts him off bc of his unreliable healing

[thorny grove]

Hehe… yeah I can’t do 10 more em every im out lol

[cyan tusk]

Try this +4 but you have to figure it out at +4 def

[stray dust]

Kinda regretting a little I didn't pick ssb to 4/5 thanks to Valerie

[cyan tusk]

Yeah 5/5 is kinda meh

Also don’t sleep on SSBlue dps if playing him under rain

[thorny grove]

Also couldn’t do that mine is 3/5 lol.

[cyan tusk]

Rip

[thorny grove]

Yeah. I mean the run I did was 90k I and I can always revisit if needed

[rough forum]

Or with rebuff from cerena

[glossy ravine]

Continued to push a little

Maintaining top 100 is so hard lol

Still ten more days

[night sleet]

Top100 will be around 500k

[sharp hedge]

cut off will be on the range 510-540 maybe?

last 3 day push is real

[forest ferry]

Exr eusine will push score a bit more coz it's more HP

And more 5/5 eusine owners will be popping up

[sharp hedge]

im still unsure where his best place is

[forest ferry]

Misty or Valerie

Only 2 safe spot for rain comp

[sharp hedge]

whats his debuff again

disarm?

[forest ferry]

Yes

[sharp hedge]

hmm what comp

eusine dahlia kriss?

in that comp i feel like archie slots better

of course eusine can work too but dahlia sync is strong so extend range is kinda not needed

and for valerie hes against lyss

[forest ferry]

Not extend range
For disarm

If he's not 5/5, Archie better

[sharp hedge]

yeah but you dont get more points with disarm

just need to make sure archie lives first sync ig

[forest ferry]

Yea but with 5/5 eusine you are guaranteed to survive sync

Even at high str

[cyan tusk]

He has better AoE damage so more atks, and casual flinch popping off here and there saving you in the long run

[sharp hedge]

doesnt dahlia clear sides first?

archie probably have more damage than him though since seup and smun stacking from kriss

[forest ferry]

Dahlia herself clears the stage

[cyan tusk]

In fact I would not use eusine and dahila together

I got 1K like 10 minutes after the event dropped

Means it’s too op

[sharp hedge]

what are you using him with then

[forest ferry]

Well eusine can theoretically go to Valerie but lyss

[cyan tusk]

Are you asking a magician to reveal his secrets?👀

[forest ferry]

[sharp hedge]

[sharp hedge]

ah thats fair

[cyan tusk]

🪄

[sharp hedge]

did you use archie bicio

[forest ferry]

Gotta love that 4/5 cerena

[cyan tusk]

Nope my Archie is caked and getting fat in his bench

[cyan tusk]

I-I.. can explain

It was an accident

[forest ferry]

Sure mate

[cyan tusk]

I once did a wrong daily back in her rerun bc I was still asleep

And….y know what happened

But she has no extra energy

[stray dust]

That's a hell of a lucky daily

[sharp hedge]

see the bicio comp make sense

[cyan tusk]

Lucky and lucky bc she was already 3/5

[sharp hedge]

high mid damage + extend range

[forest ferry]

That +10 HP hard carrying

[cyan tusk]

You also have a strong AoE move and as I said flinch here and there makes it way smoother

[sharp hedge]

dahlia eusine wouldnt be as good as dahlia archie for misty i feel

[cyan tusk]

Also bc mid damage from eusine actually allows nc Serena to shuriken the sides and fish for acc drops for when mid is down

[stray dust]

"acc drops"

[cyan tusk]

But I know 5/5 eusine is whale material

[stray dust]

We know where this is heading

Rock slide miss

[cyan tusk]

You have miss confusion and flinch this time

The polishit is more dangerous bc of surfs

[wanton citrus]

Hoping I get a couple eusine copies on my attempt to grab silver later this month

[stray dust]

Misty: para confusion miss
Marlon: flinch confusion miss

[cyan tusk]

It’s gonna be a hell of 24 hours on May 20th

[haughty haven]

Oh hey, that same for me

But my is NC Marnie instead

[stray dust]

Higher nuke

[haughty haven]

[wanton citrus]

I raise you NC Calem

[stray dust]

Happy accidents

[full pulsar]

wow

how do you guys survive such strength?

even EX ssblue is going down in few hits

[cyan tusk]

We pray arceus

[stray dust]

We have fun

Misty: "blizzard start"
Restart button

[outer whale]

There's a secret ingredient that people sleep on.

[sharp hedge]

fish for move order fish for miss

[outer whale]

It's called...

✨ Type Guards ✨

[cyan tusk]

It’s called
✨ prayers ✨

[full pulsar]

oh

[outer whale]

Misty: Ice guard
Marlon: Water Guard
Elio: Water Guard
Valerie: Fairy Guard
Penny: Fairy Guard

[cyan tusk]

Pray no play rough
Pray no liquidation
Pray no blizzard

[full pulsar]

ok

[outer whale]

Pray no drill run

[full pulsar]

I have a lot of those cookies

[cyan tusk]

Oh yes the dewgong

[full pulsar]

I'll give a try

[outer whale]

Type guards are legitimately the meta for High Score

Vigilance be damned

[full pulsar]

is good on strikers too? how much it lowers dmg

[outer whale]

Strikers don't need it

Only the tanks

If your strikers are being KOed by sync, you did not debuff enough/buff defenses enough

[full pulsar]

they're dying first sync 🥲

[sharp hedge]

thats the tight part of hs

you need debuff and even then theres no guarantee on surviving especially striker with lower bulk

[stray dust]

Pray hyper beam confusion or miss

[cyan tusk]

Better gears needed

Type guards ls do not apply to sync moves

[outer whale]

Type guards help you survive dps, you need to prepare to mitigate sync damage

If you can't do that.

[full pulsar]

oh yes, I need some adjustments on gears

time to use rainbow feathers

[outer whale]

Rainbow feathers will not be able to handles super high scores, but it will enable 500 str syncs if done correctly.

The biggest thing I would say is get AS MUCH HP, DEF, AND SPDEF as possible on gears.

[full pulsar]

ok thanks

it's just... they don't fit both water and fairy

[outer whale]

Focus on trying to get gears that fit the team comp, not just general water/fairy, that will be the hardest part of it all. Even with me almost with 450k, my gears are a mismatch beyond belief

[sullen pier]

It's already hard to roll Water and Fairy in the same piece, not to mention good passives and stats too

Most high scorers roll 2 gear sets, one for Water and one for Fairy

[cyan tusk]

Mono type teams are the way to go actually

[outer whale]

Meanwhile, me.

That bracelet is the bane of my runs...

At least my gears are workable

[mighty roost]

In that HS i have seen many teams with Psyduck EX and Samurot EX too, but i dont have them EX.
So i'm thinking if its worth EX those supports (And Mawile DPS) and if i do they can help to get a significantly high score on stages.
What yall think?

[haughty haven]

I’ll recommend EX Misty & Psyduck and Lodge Lillie

[rough forum]

Pity from his first run for 1/5

Candied twice

Miss clicked a daily on him over Marnie

1/400

[haughty haven]

Meanwhile i got him from 1st daily and still not touching him

[rough forum]

Lol

[rustic summit]

a whole 5% extra earthquake damage 😎

[rough forum]

I'm 5/5 and caking him eventually

Just because I like leon

[main pulsar]

Power boost

Power boost

Copium

Let’s go

[rustic summit]

i can't imagine dena won't make 4/5 and 5/5 tiles for master fairs eventually

[main pulsar]

No ew what the fuck no

That’s not a powerboost my guy

That’s an expansion

I don’t want that

[haughty haven]

At least Leon has his Max Move

[main pulsar]

Pykuo

If anni Steven got a max move

He’s still be ass

[forest ferry]

Let leon set sun on dmax and +100 BP

[main pulsar]

He needs way more than that

First his tm needs to fully set him up within 2 uses

Then he needs actual multipliers his current ones are so ass

[forest ferry]

doesn't need all that

Just bring support

[main pulsar]

No

[haughty haven]

Well, that is Anni Steven problem to be ass with that Atk ofc that is Dena fault to let that happen

[main pulsar]

[haughty haven]

[main pulsar]

I’m not saying ur wrong

But the situation is comparable

A one time nuke doesn’t change these units dps are no longer that special

And they ONLY have dps so

lol

[rough forum]

Leon DPS is really good tho

Burn synergy 3 is still better than stuff other more recent MFs got

[rustic summit]

plus inferno high bp

[stray dust]

Same I also only piece together my skill gears last minute

[main pulsar]

I’m pretty sure overpower is higher

And geeta gets mortal speen with more pmun and virulent toxin

Sure ncsilver but like no

[waxen thorn]

i think they're both 30%

[glossy ravine]

Why am I so bad at this mode lel

[main pulsar]

That’s wack

But gladion had a cheating button that doesn’t hog a sync nuke so I think it counts

( like yes leon technically does but like no)

[weary rivet]

Geeta has Toxic Power 5

[main pulsar]

Even if leon has more deeps in fully maxed scenario it take longer to get there and his cheat button is tame

[main pulsar]

I said wrong passive bleh

[forest ferry]

Leon has a massive advantage that only few units are blessed with

He's fire type

[main pulsar]

Advantage?

He’s fucked by the competition

[forest ferry]

NCleaf abuse goes hard

[main pulsar]

Ain’t no way you’d use him over like hilda

[forest ferry]

Double dps it

[main pulsar]

He’s not good for fast clear

[forest ferry]

Fire has like 3 setters

[main pulsar]

Remember how you said it doesn’t matter ge doesn’t set himself up

[glossy ravine]

Competition only gets bigger to the point where the main reason you want Leon is for bulk/MP

[main pulsar]

If ur using double dps ncleaf it does matter

[glossy ravine]

And that's kinda it

[main pulsar]

His bulk is ass

Well not ass

But nothing specia(precake anyway)

[glossy ravine]

Also he has to be babysit by somebody so he can't really greed

Like the others can

If he were a modern MF he'd have instant +6/+3 or just sure crits and then suddenly everyone loves him lol

[main pulsar]

Exactly

[forest ferry]

If he was modern MF, He'd have full nuke multiplier

And +100 dmax

[main pulsar]

He doesn’t cheat, he’s slow, and his payoff is just worse than other units

[cyan tusk]

Btw overpower is 30%

[main pulsar]

Ye I amended my statement

[cyan tusk]

All moves multipliers based on buffs debuffs are 30%, with 2 excepting: good form and power loving

[main pulsar]

But the damage difference is realistically not that big imo

Even if inferno has bigger bp

[cyan tusk]

The issue is the setup

Inferno is just 1 click, you are done

[main pulsar]

One click of inferno 3 clicks of tm

[cyan tusk]

Ramming speed overpower and their friends have longer setup

you can always pair Leon with his bff, Halloween Morty

[main pulsar]

[outer whale]

I'm tempted on making an advanced guide for getting higher scores in events

[cyan tusk]

It would be a very easy guide to fill

whale

[stray dust]

"fish for good move rng"

[main pulsar]

[cyan tusk]

Follow me for more useful tips

[main pulsar]

Shameless self promo

[outer whale]

Nah, there's a lot more than just "haha whale"

[stray dust]

75% of hse right there

[cyan tusk]

I’m aware, I’m just spreading free misinformation and bad financial decisions

[main pulsar]

That’s why we love you

[outer whale]

5 things i'm thinking of right now

1. Type Guards
2. Skill Gears
3. Turn stalling/Quadqueueing
4. Move Levels
5. Expect to reset.

[main pulsar]

Tell us to whale harder

[cyan tusk]

I’m the personality member of hse channel

[cyan tusk]

Debuffs, rebuffs

[main pulsar]

[cyan tusk]

Checking move typing from the opponent to manage field effects

[rustic summit]

speaking of whaling
tempted to do dailies on ss silver/eusine banner for dupes

[stray dust]

Good move rng for higher score pushing

[outer whale]

Ther's gonna be a lot

[cyan tusk]

@outer whale if you wanna fill a more advanced guide, feel free to hit me up

[outer whale]

That's just #5

[cyan tusk]

Happy to help

[stray dust]

Oh true

[waxen thorn]

denialing and resilience

[stray dust]

Surviving first sync counts?

[outer whale]

That's just number 3

[main pulsar]

Offense debuffs are much more valuable for all those pre sync players

[waxen thorn]

ah

[cyan tusk]

If you wanna do it for hse purposes, it’s useless bc the banner drops 1 day before hse leaves. If you like the units, is a good idea bc is a good banner value overall

[cyan tusk]

Actually sometimes it’s surviving SECOND sync

[rustic summit]

don't care for hse all that much, i just want dupes of 'em

[stray dust]

Yeah that too

[cyan tusk]

Go for dailies in that case, you have my support

[rustic summit]

let's cope something good comes of it

[cyan tusk]

The trick for dailies is complaining you don’t get anything

Then dupes will come, I have scientific proof for it

[main pulsar]

We’ve all experienced something like that

The most weirdly consistent thing ever

[haughty haven]

It doesn’t work

[cyan tusk]

It worked for me yesterday

[haughty haven]

Bede still doesn’t come home

[cyan tusk]

Bellelba still doesn’t come but I’m full of hope

[haughty haven]

Mix Blue still doesn’t come home too

[oak fulcrum]

ok so I know I said my 700 valerie was easy but resetting for the sequence is a massive pain