High Score

[candid cobalt]

As well as the nuke

Maybe I could use NY Lisia with Bede?

[cyan tusk]

You have Serena for debuffs

Just throw random shurikens here and there

[candid cobalt]

Oh wait actually I have an idea

[royal tiger]

tbh i'm thinking of giving Dojo Gloria or Lysssandre to EXR

[outer whale]

Multiple answers btw

[royal tiger]

i've got a Tech Cake for Lyssandre

i caked NC Serena already xD

tbh though i want to use my omni cake vouchers for Sprint & Strike for Battle Rally 😭

[cyan tusk]

Missing eusine

[red owl]

Where is archie

[cyan tusk]

Dahila getting votes because Ncserena is already caked for most of us

[outer whale]

When is his rerun again?

LMAO HIS RERUN IS MAY 20TH

Literally one day before HSE is over

[outer whale]

That i forgot.

[cyan tusk]

Yesss

[outer whale]

Too many ex roles to remember

[shy flower]

That you purposefully left off because he still can't nuke

[outer whale]

Semantics. Eggplants, aubergines.

[forest ferry]

oh fuck
Lysandre banner gave me palmer instead

Why do I always get smth I don't want in triple banner

[royal tiger]

wut the nobody wants to EXR DJ Gloria? :<

[forest ferry]

They'd rather exr penny than dojo

[mortal timber]

I am gonna ex the dj

[royal tiger]

my Penny is 1/5 so that'll be difficult 😦

[candid cobalt]

Wally having majority votes makes sense

[paper mist]

I have no extra cakes rn and would rather save my tickets for next month. Gladion is already caked, and I usually don’t sync with LySSandre and likely won’t in the HSE either.

Now if the list included Morty…

[hardy fog]

Why Is wally such a favourite for this hs

[cyan tusk]

Bc she keeps infesting my pulls

[cyan tusk]

He’s one of the few physical atk debuff, zone;, theme skill, confusion, exr with A1 or quad is a 2 turn skip

-6 cd

[hardy fog]

Would you use him over ss gladion

In any other curcumstance

[forest ferry]

Use both together vs marlon

[hardy fog]

A bit of fomo but then again I'm like mehh don't care

[sharp hedge]

most 1k str requires tech usually

[forest ferry]

Wally is probably like top 3 unit

For this HS

[sharp hedge]

actually

is there any 1k without a tech so far lol

[forest ferry]

No

[sharp hedge]

yeah exactly

[hardy fog]

Stop

I will not pull wally

No

[royal tiger]

i'll do more team testing but

currently i'm going for 500 strength misty, the rest will be like 200.

[mortal timber]

Ah day 1 is gonna be so funny lol

At this pace everyone will go mentally insane at that day

[sharp hedge]

me will wait and steal teams

[mortal timber]

Gonna find you and dogwow you

[royal tiger]

wish i could do more teaam building, but, UGH Misty will be the troublesome one.

[sullen pier]

[mortal timber]

You too gakon, be warned

[royal tiger]

so i put all my master fairss there.

[sullen pier]

Me watching the chaos

[mortal timber]

Gonna dogwow everyone haha

[sullen pier]

I still don't know if i should tryhard this time

[sharp hedge]

my resource is limited so have to wait for awhile

only 40 powerups

[sullen pier]

Grass was my best chance to tryhard but it sucked

[sharp hedge]

[mortal timber]

I’ll surely end up in top 500 this time around

[sullen pier]

I gave up midway

[cyan tusk]

Instead not, but I’m using him on Elio

[mortal timber]

No way I can go higher than that considering what I have

[cyan tusk]

Im thinking about 5/5 penny + ssgladion and Elio tbf

On penny

[sullen pier]

You can if you believe hard enough

[hardy fog]

Same conditions wally does that much more

[sharp hedge]

oh this is a good strat

[mortal timber]

Fairy is one of my weakest so will see what happens

[sharp hedge]

i assume you sleep flash cannon user

i forgor who has it

[mortal timber]

Klef

[sharp hedge]

[cyan tusk]

I have to see if I can come up with good teams for the other stages too

[mortal timber]

Does elio stage have flash cannon too?

I remember only on penny

That key Pokémon has both cannon and steel beam

[sharp hedge]

only penny i think

[mortal timber]

You don’t wanna mess with that

So funny I want to use Xerneas there, oh my

And guess what, steel weak

Ez

[night sleet]

Sycamore have 2 big issue

No crit

No def

[mortal timber]

But wait to hear from me that I will be deploying Katherine and making the entire rank system shake for it

[night sleet]

Shake will be score for top100🤣

Cant wait for crazy numbers

[mortal timber]

Arrived 24th thanks to torchic in fire, ain’t scared of going for it again

[candid cobalt]

The 50% comes in clutch trust

[night sleet]

Fire hse was not same competion like last one and nexts

[mortal timber]

Fire HSE was in fact way worse

Never again those stages

Chili, 1000 str Kiawe

[night sleet]

Was hard yes

[mortal timber]

I don’t wanna see them again

[night sleet]

But i did them in 1 day for top100

[mortal timber]

Easily doable the same even nowadays

Doesn’t matter

[cyan tusk]

Electric was the real mess btw

[mortal timber]

Once you have the key units you can do it even with with one

[mortal timber]

5/5 ss hau diff master here, what’s good

[night sleet]

Yes hau was good

[mortal timber]

Strike ex role with him is gonna go hard on Electric rerun

[night sleet]

Now we have 2 good sup

For electric

Iono and chase

Plus we have piers

Electric grass hse🤣

600k top20🤣 all score

[sharp hedge]

what if my ss hau is 0/5

[cyan tusk]

Tbf I don’t agree bc he’s already dealing good damage on sides with B move 👀

[mortal timber]

Yesn't, in the sense that having sides gone with sync helps of getting rid of aoe penalty of b move sooner

[mortal timber]

I'll give you one

So you can invest on it

[sharp hedge]

would love to get at least 1 copy of him

[mortal timber]

I still preferred supp role on him but I get why they went for striker

[sharp hedge]

ext is very useful

[mortal timber]

Could have been better

[sharp hedge]

striker make sense yeah

its exactly like what you said

[mortal timber]

Yeah, not the best not the worst

[sharp hedge]

getting rid sides faster = more bmove damage

[mortal timber]

Exactly

Plus ofc an aoe deadly sync

And more offensive stats

[sharp hedge]

[mortal timber]

[forest ferry]

his aoe sync let you ignore fz stuff and just nuke with kekwalk on sides

So you can run a st dps with him

[hardy fog]

Good gears always come after the HS

[forest ferry]

Unusable pin

Not double typing

[hardy fog]

Lol

[hardy fog]

Otherwise it's quite the poison gear

[cyan tusk]

You need to run another ET user

Bc you cannot afford all damage and terrain via grid

In that case I’d’ say also Volkner is fine tbf, or piers

[hardy fog]

Bicio did you pin your gear. I've never seen any fairy water after like 500 feathers. I prob go mono 😂

I think I need to reroll the pin for defense...

[forest ferry]

Don't have to

[sleek crystal]

im so cooked for this hse

my roster is SHIT

[sullen pier]

[sleek crystal]

well water is good

how tf do i do fairy

[forest ferry]

Only -1

For -3 you can pick WS5

Or you can even ignore MG9

Depending on other 2 slots

[cyan tusk]

The bracelet is pinned, the bandana is luck

But the pin is giving me headaches

Like 700 rolls and not only no water + fairy, but no any combination of fairy/unova + anything that could go for lyss and misty

Like damn spring Burgh couldn’t you keep the gym leader theme skill?

[forest ferry]

I have 1 fairy+water gear

And it has 55 spl atk

That's it

And no good passives

[cyan tusk]

I still have hope

There’s so much stamina to waste

The funny thing is that I’m actually keeping good overall rolls and now I have like 15 pins with random skills and +100 hp and double +20 here and there

[hardy fog]

Yea I'm debating to level up my sync pairs... or burn them on gear

I have so many level 125 😂

[sharp hedge]

feather is rarer

[forest ferry]

1 gear done

2 to go

[paper mist]

LySSandre+SSMina

[onyx crystal]

Feedback:

• Misty (Starmie) on Valerie is lacking . There isn't a real concrete way to resolve this without swapping pretty much all supports on every team.
• You're missing some mixed options like Adaman, Burgh, and Penny.
• You might need to consider changing the vsMisty team to move her there, and rework both of those.
• You could consider inserting Lodge Lillie on either the Marlon or Elio stage for debuffs, and the Petal Blizzard will hit for SE on mid.
• I'm unsure of the Bede + ncSerena combo, both are sync nukers, instead of a DPS + Nuke combo.
• You could pair Serena with Eusine for a decent combo. Bede would probably want to pair up with Lisia or Gladion for the theme bonus.
• You've got rain on Marlon, which is mainly water, I'd be wary since you're not using flinch/sleep besides Eusine.

[candid cobalt]

Ooh ok thank you Sages

[forest ferry]

Well that was pretty quick

220 feathers to go

Hopefully bandanna as well
Current one is ass

[onyx crystal]

Like Ideally, ssMina should go vsMisty or vsElio, but things change when you're missing several top supports. 🫠

[forest ferry]

Mina should never go vs misty

It's the only stage where you can use Kriss at max potential

Out of remaining 4 stages, only elio and penny are special sync

And elio has water sync himself and penny blocks wtz

[cyan tusk]

You can use her on Elio for fairy zone btw

[forest ferry]

Mina is theoretical best in every stage except misty and penny

Yep

you only bring Mina vs misty when you lack the top support

Not when you have em

[cyan tusk]

What’s all this luck with gears

Btw I think we crossing the overthinking line, let’s wait a couple of resets and see what will be going on

[onyx crystal]

Possibly, but I still think that ssGladion there is a valid reason. Depends on the Valerie team.

[forest ferry]

Well Valerie is physical sync

Oh yea, should I roll the dice or keep it?

[onyx crystal]

I think with LySS Burn and a few stoic procs, you should be fine.

[outer whale]

Mina is risky on Valerie even though she has omnidef buffs

[forest ferry]

Well you just not grid fairy zone refresh and run rain team

Vlyra, Mina, lyss is what I am expecting to be top team for the stage

[cyan tusk]

Keep in mind Mina has refreshing rain

Which is not that bad tbh

Yes she’s the only support running fairy zone when sskris already has rain but who knows

[onyx crystal]

you're giving up the team Whimiscal DR3

[cyan tusk]

The alternative would be to run her in a mixed team

Something like ssmina - ssgladion - May

Or ssmina - Archie - SSgladion but I’d give May a shot bc of accuracy debuffs

[onyx crystal]

that Rainy Propulsion 1 kicked off a few times no confirmation bias or anything

Is Lana gonna be able to handle those Rock Tombs from marlon?

annoyed she doesn't have a way to get that extra +2 def

Also, I believe I'm currently neglecting that +2 Evasion on my Marlon team.

[haughty haven]

Evasion debuffer: L Rosa , Cerena, Bede, P Dawn, Kali , Katherine, Lillie, Penny, MC & Cream, Volo

Yeah Gl with +2 evasion

Most of them is random debuff

[onyx crystal]

Piercing Gaze: Holi Siebold, SS Lysandre 4/5, Dahlia 5/5, Eusine

[haughty haven]

Now it think about, Katherine seem good again Marlon

[forest ferry]

Just run bede, gladion, ssmina for Marlon

[haughty haven]

0/5 Bede

[forest ferry]

fine
Cope with volo

I wish Katherine had ex

[candid cobalt]

She’d honestly be decent with EX

Evasion and accuracy is such a scam in this game

[waxen thorn]

Do I keep it or try to reroll it into water/fairy?

[main pulsar]

Honestly I have to wait to see

Like if gladion unlocks a clear I’ll give one to him

Cerena almost certainly will cuz support sync is effectively a damage buff

[night sleet]

I have all caked 🤣 nothing left

Only bede and wally 7 may

[hollow prism]

Well i just got Oleana on Mix, so my Poison roster went from fairly good to holy shit i have every unit except the varieties

[outer whale]

if you cake and use Bede. let me know.

[main pulsar]

Blud acting like geeta Emma doesn’t already clear basically everything

[paper mist]

Burgh also buffs team accuracy which mitigates it even without MPR

So Burgh can be an option for Marlon especially since he provides Omni Def buffs

[graceful pike]

no dahlia

pain

can't believe

both mf are not good

like

BROOOOO

Gladion what are you doing ToT

so many s and f....

i'm so confused like

what the hell am i supposed to do

[main pulsar]

Ain’t no way gladion isn’t going to be good

That’s giga cap

Do you see that ssmina shit

If literally NOTHING else we KNOW he does good in long fights

[graceful pike]

yea but like

have you seen

gladion

A C F B B

that does NOT scream "i'm actually good"

[main pulsar]

Like I said

Giga cap

[graceful pike]

i swear to god

[main pulsar]

There are 2 stages that fairy zone will be good

[graceful pike]

he's gonna be good against penny

like no freaking way

[main pulsar]

He is categorically the best abuser of rain

There is no way around that

[graceful pike]

WHAT

ss gladion

[main pulsar]

Fairy

My brain

[graceful pike]

??????

bro

[main pulsar]

See

I just type bad

You know what I mean

[graceful pike]

stop the cap

[main pulsar]

Blud wdyfm he is the best fairy zone user

Cuz he just has the best numbers

[graceful pike]

i know but

i'm trolling

[main pulsar]

[graceful pike]

still

he has like

2 viable ish stages

penny and misty

i seriously cannot see him cooking anywhere else

but like

[main pulsar]

Ain’t no way ur using him in misty

[graceful pike]

muh archie exr

[main pulsar]

That’s a full rain team

[graceful pike]

yeah i know

that's why

[main pulsar]

Is valerie our resident physical attack spammer

[graceful pike]

when does

uhhh

@scarlet hearth

when does wally get exr

oh shit nvm

also

just found out

wally has

team speedy entry 2

like

holy shit he's competing with ss may

[main pulsar]

I’m sorry who?

Ur probably thinking misty

[graceful pike]

Idk anymore i'm bad

Only misty team is surefire

[graceful pike]

Wally

Team speedy entry 2

Only him and ss may got that

[main pulsar]

Oh ur talking not high score

[onyx crystal]

It's more so that Gladion's traits aren't helping you against that matchup, not that he's inherently weak to Marlon.
The S.Atk debuffs and Master passive help mitigate special damage, and Marlon is a physical damage focused stage.

[graceful pike]

Yeah i know but

Slotting him in is gonna be rough af

He eats all of my gauge

Alright

Swapped around

Testing

So far so dumb but so good lmfao

[main pulsar]

This team is so schizophrenic tho

[graceful pike]

Blue gives the team the edge

For SPEED

No need pep rally even

Disgusting

Because i used impervious

As long as tm mpr is active

There is no way i am running out

Also

Confusion

[main pulsar]

Is identity crisis cuz u have def drops and special attack drops and special and physical damage

It’s doing everything

[graceful pike]

2 support exr should allow gladion to just

Shoot

[graceful pike]

Turbo slaying

Gladion will handle sides

He has to

[main pulsar]

Hm

[graceful pike]

Gladion would have one tapped

If i ran cs2

I still have grass guard

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/11901/80100?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFERQXGhseICgqKy0

My gladion is 4/5 so i can afford +8 for this grid

Though

If he was 5/5

And +10

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/11901/80100?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFDA0RFBcaGygqKy0u

Accuracy fix

My god his accuracy is ass

[main pulsar]

True tbh

Wonder if there’s like a team pinpoint I can sneak

Does any water or fairy unit have that

[graceful pike]

So

Checking that team

0 gauge issues even without to the top

[graceful pike]

Drop evasion instead

[cyan tusk]

Wait for first days

[main pulsar]

Unfortuitous let’s go

[onyx crystal]

I need to know what the def value is at 1000 str

[paper mist]

It’s super annoying that Elio specifically nerfs Strikers because his stage would have been the best one for Gladion

[main pulsar]

Alas

[graceful pike]

I need status immune so bad on dojo gloria

😦

[paper mist]

Since Elio is more special focused than the rest minus Misty

[main pulsar]

Penny is special focused

[paper mist]

And isn’t Fairy so you can safely run FZ

[main pulsar]

Oh yeah

[onyx crystal]

So wait they have 558 def at 1000str 💀

[graceful pike]

Good enough i guess?

Testing out that comp and

Damn

It almost won an ultimate battle

Granted it was Lucy but

Damn

No op gear btw. Just 3 star water gear

Gonna roll later

Oof

But yeah

No rebuff

No nothing

Massive audio desync

Quite amazed by how i got that far without rebuff and all that

[paper mist]

worth using for Eusine?

[graceful pike]

Holy fuk

What is this gear

[paper mist]

if only it was Water instead of Johto so Archie could benfit too

[hollow prism]

Yeah but for Poison HS my roster just SKYROCKETED in viability

Poison might now be my best secondary type in the game honestly because i’m not pulling Brycen Man making my dark weaker

[paper mist]

I think I own every Poison pair now after VAgatha came from Mix

including...VPlum next week

[hollow prism]

The amount of times I saw a 1 on your Sync move counter while the enemy was attacking made me want to cry

[main pulsar]

Lucy doesn’t care about rebuff

[hollow prism]

Triple Antitoxin not allowing us to use Adrenaline or HS1

And no flinch either Lucy is cringe

[graceful pike]

Not enough damage smh

[hollow prism]

Lucy just doesn’t allow you to have any fun

[graceful pike]

[hollow prism]

Piece of shit

[graceful pike]

All stages are not fun

I wish i have ss mina

[hollow prism]

She needs 3/5

[graceful pike]

Mix pulls suck

[hollow prism]

Well at least i started off strong

Considering my shit luck in 4.5 anni

[hardy fog]

Lillie looks pretty good for an f2p unit

Likely on my roster at least 😂

[hollow prism]

I’m so ready for people to complain that they don’t have her

[hardy fog]

Dc2 / mg2 petal blizzard incoming

[hollow prism]

And then i can smite them for abandoning lillie in Lodge

[outer whale]

S: Special attack drops godsend
C: Physical striker
F: Striker unit rule
B: Fairy unit so can't use FZ + Mixed attacker
B: Fairy unit so can't use FZ + no WTZ to begin with + Mixed attacker

Inits this HSE have this awkward placement on some stages because of how they debuff and what they're weak too

[paper mist]

imagine there being a No Tech rule and claiming NCerena is bad because of it

[outer whale]

I would.

[paper mist]

bad for the whole HSE?

[outer whale]

Just for the no tech rule

Heck, she's A+ on Misty solely because physical damage reduction limits brutal swing viability for damage when you're trying to flinch/confuse.

but you can reset for first turn confusion
Imagine resetting turn one just for a chance to flinch/confuse which would not only be inconsistent, but having to reset even more because they decide to use an x item before a move.

[paper mist]

there's honestly so many Techs for Water and Fairy that it should have been No Tech instead of No Striker smh

[main pulsar]

You know

People actually did that

I believe as recent as psychic hs people did it

And on my winning run though I didn’t count on it

I did get it with ncrosa sleep

On her b move

[onyx crystal]

At 1000 strength and 4 sync buffs, you'll do 6,585 damage to the sides with B Fleur. Which is about 20% of their HP.

[main pulsar]

Sounds pretty good

[hollow prism]

I’m not sure why more people didn’t tbh

[round stone]

Turn 1 defensive buffs:

[main pulsar]

It’s better to reset for a flinch

It’s like +1 sync cycle basically

In fact I believe in grass high score pykuo or dabbo did the thing with Ramos

People reset for first turn in hs, it’s honestly not as bad

[hollow prism]

Reset for a flinch AND confusion ☠️

[candid cobalt]

I kinda have to given I don't have KriSS

It's too good of an opportunity to use Gladion with SS Mina

[sharp hedge]

not a good comparison between ub and hs imo

hs can 2-3 shots the likes of nc blue

even with defense buff you still need debuff and stuns to survive high str

[balmy yarrow]

Im missing reg. Bede and vaporeon variety for this HS
Any1 Think any of these 2 are needed for best teams this HS?

[hollow prism]

Bede, no

VLyra? Probably?

[outer whale]

Bede will be very good for Valerie
VLyra is REALLY Useful for Valerie and Misty

[sharp hedge]

theres no reason for them to rerun both bede and ss wally exclusively for hs banner if hes irrelevant

[balmy yarrow]

Ouch, i always whiffed on pulling v Lyra

[candid cobalt]

ew variety units

[hardy fog]

All you Dena employees selling the fairy banner

[graceful pike]

No bede no mina

How screwed am I

[night sleet]

Bede in baner

Mina in mix😘

[cyan tusk]

Well Mina is pretty useful, bede I think you can make up to his absence, I’m not using him

We have plenty of sp atk and def debuffers, is the physical ones we are lacking

[graceful pike]

Nobody lucky like you haiyaaaaa

[graceful pike]

Pal dawn to the rescue

[cyan tusk]

PAL Dawn, 5/5 eusine, 5/5 lys, 3/5 Vlyra, 3/5 volo

[graceful pike]

Give me

[cyan tusk]

ask more politely

[graceful pike]

I need them

[night sleet]

Bicio if dena put units in hse banner mean you need use them for top ranks

Its always same history

[graceful pike]

Yah

So

We out

[night sleet]

So you need wally and bede exr

[graceful pike]

No bede

[night sleet]

Banner in 3 days

Scout

[cyan tusk]

I actually don’t think bede is so important, he his in banner for the gimmicks and bonuses but he has never been top tier unit lol

[forest ferry]

bede slot can be replaced by volo

[night sleet]

Hse its not lg or others

[cyan tusk]

I have him and I’m not using him in any team

[candid cobalt]

Yeah Bede can be replaced by Volo

[forest ferry]

Only place he shines over volo is Valerie even that I think water comp is better

Coz rain has 2 top end setters

[candid cobalt]

Personally I've always been a Bede advocate because I love funny aoe debuff but yeah

[cyan tusk]

But why Valerie, she’s physical and he’s a special debuffer

[candid cobalt]

Spdef debuffs

[forest ferry]

Fire weak mid

[candid cobalt]

Cos of the multiplier

[cyan tusk]

Elio is the stage for bede, or Misty

[night sleet]

Yes

Elio

[forest ferry]

Misty is defo rain comp

It's the only stage where Kris is usable

[night sleet]

Misty need rain

[cyan tusk]

Why rain? Misty needs weather removal once

Bede removes rain once lol

[candid cobalt]

Bede removes bede

[night sleet]

How you want bicio score 120 no rain on misty?

[forest ferry]

It's ez

Bede, gladion , tank

[candid cobalt]

I mean given that this is water and fairy HS, the most likely answer to replacing Hail is by using rain since it benefits you entirely

[cyan tusk]

I scored 120K on psychic hse without psychic terrain

[night sleet]

Ss steven

[cyan tusk]

With strategy

[night sleet]

And sleep

[forest ferry]

Ssteven outdpsing every other terrain psychic dps without terrain

[candid cobalt]

That's just a certified SS Steven moment

[night sleet]

Ss steven is cheatear

You can use him no atacker as atacker

So its god lv unit

[cyan tusk]

We already have similar dps/tdo units, sssteven does not have a huge sync damage

[night sleet]

O dont see better stage for archie then misty . And dahlia too prefect combo. Low sts confusion.

Only nc serena

Is close ss stevens lv

[forest ferry]

Cerena can probably 1000 str without rain

Coz she was able to 800 str without rain back then

And we didn't have gears

[night sleet]

Depend on supports

[cyan tusk]

And we didn’t have her ex role

Btw I’m just saying that previous hse taught us that there’s no “this has to be there” or “this is good this is bad”, when 1st on grass hse scored 120K with Bp Barry

Just think out of the box

[forest ferry]

That's with adaman and dawn

We were doing with Erika and blue

And the rank 1 didn't even use Erika

[night sleet]

You dont now 1 thing

They skill gears

How mutch help

[cyan tusk]

Rank 1 in water hse did not use Archie

[forest ferry]

Well Archie is just shit unit

[night sleet]

He didnt have him

[forest ferry]

Man does eusine damage

Also yea
They didn't have Vlyra and archie

[candid cobalt]

What

[night sleet]

But whit archie i saw others score more then runner on misty

[forest ferry]

Vlyra+Archie is ez team

But runner didn't have Archie and Vlyra didn't have ex back then

Now you can probably pull off a 1000 str vs Valerie with the duo

[night sleet]

Thunder -6 special def archie super powerd 3 wather warior 3 will hit like tank

[hardy fog]

It’s kinda annoying that 3 of the units for the hs banner are tech as well

[night sleet]

You need techs in many stages

Who will debuff

[graceful pike]

I wish ssblue

Will have sprint exr

Helps with solo and

Mega + sprint is good combo

[cyan tusk]

Expecting a field role for him bc of the rain based passives via grid

[graceful pike]

Yeah

[haughty haven]

Well, most support want Field/Sprint cake

[graceful pike]

That too is also good

[haughty haven]

[cyan tusk]

And honestly won’t complain at all

[graceful pike]

True

[cyan tusk]

Field or sprint is fine, strike or tech is trash

[sullen pier]

consider tech exr so he can nuke

[cyan tusk]

[sullen pier]

dude has innate Towering Force

[haughty haven]

Dawn with Tech cake when ?

[cyan tusk]

Where’s the second towering force via grid?

Dawn with striker cake plz

[haughty haven]

Any Support that want Tech/Striker cake other than Dawn ?

[shy flower]

Misty

Hell just give me Misty EX please

[graceful pike]

No fucking way i got heat wave double burn

I know it's wrong channel but

What are the odds

[cyan tusk]

Misty, Skyla, Marley

[waxen thorn]

Lyra?

[candid cobalt]

Are we just listing all the supports that have innate multipliers on sync

[shy flower]

Yes

[cyan tusk]

For the meme
No pins

[hardy fog]

That’s hacks

Too bad the stats no good

[cyan tusk]

Like 3 days and nothing, used today’s stamina got this twice

[sharp hedge]

didnt know ss blue have innate until recently

[night sleet]

Wait for me when i show you my skill gears bicio😛

I will cook some crazy ones:)

I think i already have some good fairy

How you like mine mina gears:)

[hardy fog]

That is crazy!

[night sleet]

Now i need cook water gears:)

[hardy fog]

That’s like 30% reduction?

[night sleet]

Its why i dont rellol skill gears last time was nc red on reggi i use some fheaters

[hardy fog]

How many pins are there

[night sleet]

I i didnt use them like months

[slow obsidian]

As someone who run default Skill Gears (The one that uses Event Feathers), relatable

[hardy fog]

Your gears look unethical

[night sleet]

Take a look

How many

Zero:)

[hardy fog]

31% physical

27% special

Dude no pins?!??

[night sleet]

I waist them befor🤣

On some shit

I have 3 left for water gears

I told im save alot stuff from last hse

For hard push this one:)

[forest ferry]

The bandanna is just not rolling well

[haughty haven]

My gear rn

[maiden canopy]

Besides Marlon, who else uses rock moves?

NVM, I misread

[hardy fog]

Good stats. Now you just need Adam's 30% dmg reduction in zone

[maiden canopy]

I got water/fairy themes on my bandana, but the stats and passives ultra succ

[cyan tusk]

Is better to invest in a full water set and full fairy set btw

I already had a full water and almost a full fairy invested so I can try for the mixed ones but it’s not optimal I already know

[haughty haven]

After burn more than 5000 🪶, idt i can reach that

[maiden canopy]

Bracelet with watertheme with the following:

• 75 ATK and 30 DEF
• Normal Zone: Moves Up 3% and Opp Interference: Moves Up 3%
  Yay or nay?

[cyan tusk]

Stats always have priority imo

[maiden canopy]

So yay?

[cyan tusk]

Just keep it, no need to reroll unless you have pinned the water theme skill

[maiden canopy]

It does have the water theme

And how does this look?

[cyan tusk]

If it’s pinned I’d rather go for a +30 hp + 70 (at least) atk and +20/30 def

[forest ferry]

I have full water and fairy set seperately

But a lot of stages I am using mixed so

[haughty haven]

Yeah, this Hs is hard bc of the gear

[forest ferry]

Well I am also keeping other double/triple type gears if I get good shit

[cyan tusk]

You can also go the other way around and use gears with like main character/gym leader/rival stuff

[forest ferry]

So targetting specifically water+fairy is still very pain

[cyan tusk]

Or even regional ones, it’s easy to build a full johto/alola theme

[haughty haven]

And you need 3

[maiden canopy]

I've rolled for almost 300 feathers

[forest ferry]

Only 300

I think I rolled close to 1000 features for this event alone

[haughty haven]

I already burned more than 5000 feathers

[forest ferry]

The 400 stamina per day and X2 training halls is a blessing

5000 and still no duo theme is crazy

[cyan tusk]

Im on Pykuo level

[night sleet]

Took me alot gems for stamina get it

I think over 3400/3500 feathers i use

For this set

And alot time

[forest ferry]

My mono gears are pretty good

My duo is meh tho

[night sleet]

Now i farm for water and have 1525 feathers

[night sleet]

Not bad ss lysandre get boost

[forest ferry]

It's got both offenses as well even outside lyss

So I can greed for defenses on bracelet and bandanna even if they give less atk

[night sleet]

Only you would pref have more special def not atack

Its rare have both atack sts around 100 lol

[forest ferry]

I wish there was a feather for dahlia

Then I'd instantly get bandanna from it

They purposefully skipped it

[night sleet]

Dahlia was skiped

No event nothing

Like never existed lol

[hardy fog]

I'm spending a ton of resource rn for marginal upgrade 😂 that took about 130 feathers to get that pin

So I might just leave it...

[night sleet]

160 hp lol

[forest ferry]

There's lot of potential good feathers from guaranteed as well

Like penny with fairy+dark incase they drop that typing

And jacq one with normal+psychic

[cyan tusk]

Remember: def > atk for gears

[night sleet]

Def is most important

Yeap

[forest ferry]

I am a greedy man
I want em all

[night sleet]

Haha im focus on def

Since need survived

1k str need bulk and all extra reduce

[forest ferry]

Well 700 str is already 105k pts usually

1000 is only 15k more points

[night sleet]

Im try get min 2/3 1k str

This time

[forest ferry]

And my roster not flexible enuff to 1000 str
Not enuff firepower from fairy side

[night sleet]

If i get 3 120k

[forest ferry]

only one that can do 1000 str is cerena and she can do even with subpar gears

[night sleet]

Then 2 i can score 100k

And get top20

Depend who you use whit serena

And dont forget you need have hp left for multiplayer

So you may score 1000 but not get 120k

[forest ferry]

well synchrohealing and mini potion is common

I am only sus on mina's performance coz she's a one time recovery

[night sleet]

Mina heal is kinda good and bad

If you cant beat main befor 2 sync and 2 others dont get hit you can live 2 sync for sure

[forest ferry]

well if you run Vlyra with her

She gets +1 defenses and synchrohealing for using sync

[night sleet]

Im dont like mixed them

You lose too mutch from it

Like mina have zone need use fairy for bonus from it

If you use water this zone is hudge waist

Water units dont get any bonus from attack

[cyan tusk]

She also has rain gear and refreshing rain

[hardy fog]

@outer whale @onyx crystal I’m guessing y’all responsible for the job. Thank you legends.

The columns for the debuff and the buff as well

[cyan tusk]

Petition to put the main character/gym leader/rival theme skills to old seasonals

Why my burghepi isn’t a gym leader? Don’t you think that joyful egg can kick your ass?

[hardy fog]

seems like all the tanks got a shit grade for Penny? 😂

[mortal timber]

Yah I'll just vibe with what I have with penny

[outer whale]

Penny either strips a support of their WTZ or is oddly weak to Klefki's flash cannon

[paper mist]

These are my best ones and they’re still not great. My other gears suck especially since the teams are split between both types

[haughty haven]

Funny enough, i rather use type gear than those

[paper mist]

I won’t waste pins or rerolling my villain team gears for a hse tho

[haughty haven]

I mean normal water/fairy gear

[paper mist]

Really just need to refine my other gears but that requires more everpins that DeNA refuses to give out

[haughty haven]

[sullen pier]

Real chad uses Team Aqua's pins

[haughty haven]

Ew 2 star gear

[cyan tusk]

You can just use these days extra stamina and go with the flow actually

[sharp hedge]

objectively speaking whats the best stage for ss mina actually

[outer whale]

Misty

Counters hail, allows you to omni buff defenses without opponent abusing your wtz, and aoe protect for blizzard

[night sleet]

Velio

For mina

[outer whale]

You lose out on rain dance buffing on Elio

[night sleet]

I dont need rain dance

I have others for set rain

And need use terrain

[outer whale]

No i meant, using rain dance to boost your defenses

[night sleet]

Yeap

[haughty haven]

That only her problem rn

Without Rain Dance she buff Defensive stat really slow

[night sleet]

You can use it

When they use trainer moves

Or miss

[haughty haven]

Sleep + flinch

[night sleet]

Rain end fast

Wally confusion and low accu

So use 2 rain in row make zero problem

[sharp hedge]

wally has discombulate at what move level?

[night sleet]

Dont now🤣

[maiden canopy]

1/5

[sharp hedge]

no way

[maiden canopy]

It's his passive

Oh wait

[night sleet]

He can low accu and when confusion special def

[maiden canopy]

Discombobulate

Not Gobsmack

[sharp hedge]

4/5 nodes

[maiden canopy]

It's 3/5

Yeah NVM, it's 4/5

[sharp hedge]

think ive made up my mind on my mix pity then

doubt getting mina will change my score much with the units i have

[cyan tusk]

We’ll never know till we try

[mortal timber]

Imma try an unexpected stage for mina surely

[cyan tusk]

You can pair 1/5 mina with any rain/zone setter and she will sto do her job brilliantly

[night sleet]

I would never pick from mix pitty unit for hse if you dont push 1-100 top

Its waist off mix pitty

[maiden canopy]

Elio, so she can give damage increase for him

[sharp hedge]

true

[sharp hedge]

each to their own but i find satisfaction in pushing my roster to its limit

its just fun

[night sleet]

I now but you have alot good units

Wat can help you in game more

[cyan tusk]

There are pros and cons to most stages for Mina, bc she can remove hail for Misty and protect the team but she has mixed defenses and Misty is only special

So it could be to use her somewhere else, Marlon is mainly physical and I could keep going on and on till penny
Don’t use her on penny

[night sleet]

Penny:)

[sharp hedge]

penny is like a no-no

[night sleet]

Good idea🤣

[paper mist]

Use her on Penny

[sharp hedge]

its either elio or valerie i feel

despite valerie having fairy moves

[cyan tusk]

Nah, she has her spot on 4 different stages

[night sleet]

Elio or misty

[sharp hedge]

mina is a chad tank afterall

[night sleet]

I will use on vellio

[cyan tusk]

Bc she’s one of the few fairy supports that can boost both defenses

[night sleet]

I dont afraid if get hit have my skill gear😘

[sharp hedge]

fairy guard, rain gear, fairy zone dr could prevent her getting down in valerie stage

[night sleet]

Velio water gaurd

I will use

[sharp hedge]

but its a risky move but weve seen ss may on liza so its not too far stretch

[night sleet]

No risky need skipp 1 rain turn

Or they miss or use trainer moves

[sharp hedge]

no i mean mina on valerie

mina on elio wont be as risky

[night sleet]

Lol no chance

[sharp hedge]

since sides have grass moves

[night sleet]

You will be smacked whit zone

[sharp hedge]

maybe

[night sleet]

Off course depend on your str

[sharp hedge]

hence why i feel no real reason to get mina rn

[night sleet]

If like 300/400 maybe

[hardy fog]

Guys serious question who do I use Penny with if I don't got wally and bede

[night sleet]

I use penny gladion and volo

[hardy fog]

I'm wondering if I should just go. Mina gladion penny

[night sleet]

Befor mid down sync volo for zone and b move gladion

[cyan tusk]

Penny is best suited against penny/elio

[hardy fog]

Don't got Volo bro

[night sleet]

Lol why?

[cyan tusk]

Also, penny could drain Marlon’s eva buff

[night sleet]

He is lodge

Marlon i use serena

[outer whale]

Be weary of Klefki if using Penny against her own stage

[haughty haven]

Penny really can use anywhere

1/5 is a enchanter for Fairy type

[cyan tusk]

Just reset/flinch/sleep

[haughty haven]

~~ Not for Lisia much ~~

[mortal timber]

Yeah klefki can be avoided in some ways

[night sleet]

Just reset:)

Or flinch

[haughty haven]

Well we reset all the times

[sharp hedge]

fish for confusion

[night sleet]

Reset for a win🤣

[mortal timber]

I do have that for klefki

[haughty haven]

From all enemy move, flinch, sleep, random Tm ruin our rotation

[mortal timber]

I am using a steel weak tank accompanied with the goat

The muffin

[sharp hedge]

any water/fairy with SHY

prob none right

[cyan tusk]

Unfortunately none

Already checked

[mortal timber]

Ye

[night sleet]

Shy? Wat is this lol

[mortal timber]

Stop hitting yourself

[outer whale]

Stop hitting yourself

[cyan tusk]

Stop hitting yourself 5

[night sleet]

A

[outer whale]

Confusion be like:

[night sleet]

Like lucian and velio and will

Who have it from fairy?

Nobody?

[outer whale]

also, i raised Penny's ranking up on VPenny. (don't know why I ranked her so low in all honesty.)

D to B-

[hardy fog]

I'm thinking mono type to max my gear...

[sharp hedge]

i feel like thats her best place anyway

you just gotta deal with flash cannon somehow

[hardy fog]

Like which units are likely to be used as dual type

Just minA?

[outer whale]

Mina, Bede, and Burgh.... maybe Volo?

[sharp hedge]

shes the only bridge unit having access to two zones

[hardy fog]

OK my life is easiest then I only got mina

[sharp hedge]

maybe volo yeah

burgh bulk isnt the best i think youll just use him on mono fairy

[outer whale]

Bede has sunny day which makes him a prime candidate for Lyssandre if using Heat wave DPS

Burgh is all-around good for any team comp, no weakness, and buffs crit + defenses

[night sleet]

Lol sun?

Heat wave?

[outer whale]

[night sleet]

This will deal like nothing

Sun run out fast

[outer whale]

if you're attacking multiple opponents yes.

[hardy fog]

Man so Mina has absolutely no gear to share with my water

[outer whale]

steam eruption sides, Bede Nukes mid with sync, when sides low on HP, B steam eruption into +3 SMUN +sun heat wave

seems like a solid plan to me

[night sleet]

B stream is water

Move not fire lol

[outer whale]

i know that.

[night sleet]

So wat sun give

[hardy fog]

It's likely ss mina. Archie and... cerena? Sound like a shit team?

[outer whale]

reread this.

[sharp hedge]

feels overkill

[night sleet]

Sun will use 1 max 2 heat wave

If you use b move

[sharp hedge]

cerena can probably go with other tanks

[outer whale]

that's all i'll need.

Bede nuke is stronk

[night sleet]

Dont think damage will be great

[night sleet]

Lol strange team

Why you need serena

And on misty?

[outer whale]

Champion serena would be better off on Penny, Marlon or Elio imo

[night sleet]

Marlon

[haughty haven]

Easy 1000 Str

[night sleet]

Lol

Never happend

[outer whale]

Yet

[night sleet]

Archie will die after 1 sync

[outer whale]

[night sleet]

Did you saw archie hp at 790 str? Last time

Base like 4-8%

[hardy fog]

I don't know what I'm doing

But let's goooo!

[night sleet]

This team 23

[outer whale]

archie on Elio

[night sleet]

On wat stage you plan use

Velio?

[hardy fog]

Yea is that the no striker one hahaha

[outer whale]

yes

[night sleet]

Lol he is watter velio

[outer whale]

sir, what are you cooking with -80% stats on archie

[night sleet]

Rain will smack you in 2 minuts

[hardy fog]

O gg

I better do some reading. I'm so lazy this hs... low motivation

[haughty haven]

1 single Sparking Area = 1 death Archie

[outer whale]

Archie dies of cringe from Elio's Singing career

[haughty haven]

He survive 2 actually

….. if you use Mina B Move early for no reason

[cyan tusk]

Im here spilling other non request advices: you can use bede’s dyna to eliminate misty’s hail

[haughty haven]

[cyan tusk]

And since he debuffs special atk and defense at 1/5 he’s a good candidate for the fight

You can tank me later

[night sleet]

Lol for misty i have the best team

Archie ss kriss and dahlia

[cyan tusk]

24 was my team in last water hse

[night sleet]

This is 1 str team

Plus i have ss kriss and dahlia + 10 energy grid already

[hardy fog]

Where is eusine going

[night sleet]

I dont now where i use him

Or on marlon or penny

[outer whale]

I'm going to try him on VSMisty for Flinch

[maiden canopy]

Very conflicting

[hardy fog]

Why is eusine B on Valerie?

[cyan tusk]

No spdef drop

I guess (?)

[outer whale]

I raised him to A, but swapped Marlon down to B+, he does have attack drops, but at 5/5. But he can also utilize rain for WW3, he'll have slight trouble using that against Marlon + the -2 gauge could be a bit tricky.

[hardy fog]

I’m thinking moving Mina to misty and the jhoto pair to Valerie. Is that dumb

[outer whale]

nah, Mina's pretty flexible to be put on a good amount of battles

it's how you use her WTZ is how it might affect your results

[paper mist]

Mina+Archie+?

[paper mist]

might need to grid for Stoic on KriSS since Valerie is a mixed stage

[cyan tusk]

If you have 5/5 eusine it’s actually not bad bc Valerie is mixed

[hardy fog]

I don’t know yet I’m trying to think about the pairs first. Dps and support that fits my roster

[cyan tusk]

So you benefit of the whole debuffs. I’m thinking about this too

[hardy fog]

The tank and the syncer

[paper mist]

her sync is Physical too

[cyan tusk]

I think imma give up WTZ on 2 stages ( penny + another one) to build better teams

[hardy fog]

Might happen last day though I am not going to candy Eusine now. I want to get copies of ss silver and if I am lucky then great

[paper mist]

I'm still not sure which set of teams I'm gonna do, and I doubt I'll get Bede or Dahlia before the end

[cyan tusk]

Another debate I’m having is if it’s better to use pal Serena or bede with SSWally and Fini/sylveon

Like bede with confusion synergy 9 under zone might be dealing impressive nice damage

[outer whale]

Misty: Use Weather
Marlon: Multihit/AOE attacks are useful
Elio: use a strong Tech that can easily get their multipliers
Valerie: Have a spdef/atk debuffer
Penny: Use a rebuffer

[cyan tusk]

Also Elio is the one with most powerful AoE moves

[hardy fog]

I think my main tanks looking like.

Ss Mina on misty
Penny on marlon
Sycamore on Elio
Ss Kris on Valerie
Ss blue on penny

Other consideration.
Candying sburgh(unlikely)
Elio (single target run if they exist)

[paper mist]

I don't have any strong Techs outside of Gloria who's going to Penny, I'm using SSWally against Elio but he's only 1/5 and trying to help the damage by using Penny for more rebuffs

[hardy fog]

Penny is awkward kinda. Has special defense

[paper mist]

I do have Palrena but she's only 2/5 so no Overpower

she can buff Defense at 3/5

[cyan tusk]

Is swap penny with SSBlue tbh

Also Gloria is in a kind of weird spot for this hse bc she’s great but there are not so many top tier units that could benefit her physically def drop

I’d suggest pairing her with Kris

[hardy fog]

Then I won’t be utilizing the rebuff because I don’t have other fairy dps

[cyan tusk]

Or if you have Lana and you can add a crit buffer as a 3rd Lana would appreciate those crit leech lives

[cyan tusk]

I was suggesting that bc Marlon is physical and penny is mainly special so that you could fit better those defenses

[hardy fog]

I was going use lodge Lillie for overwhelmed

[hardy fog]

Actually I can use penny / Lana. Worth trying

I like the double support ex. Delays gladion b move

[cyan tusk]

Lana is alola 👀

[hollow prism]

Holy shit the HP is just high enough to make you cry

I think you keep that as much as it sucks ass

The Dual Water Fairy is actually super important on the Pin specifically, at least with the others you can use a specific gear for either water or fairy depending on what your dmg dealer is

[hardy fog]

I do like the idea but now I’m not liking the idea of gladion and penny. Waste of special attack down

[hardy fog]

https://tenor.com/view/headache-psyduck-pokemon-cute-what-gif-16471289

[royal tiger]

oh right

i still have my Water Skill Gear

with 100+ SP.ATK buff for all water-types o.o

(and like 90 HP)

[hardy fog]

Was Marlon mostly single target last time?

Similar to like a Chilli or Erika

[hardy fog]

Also why are most people putting gladion on Marlon

Don’t see the competitive advantage here

[sharp hedge]

people use gladion on marlon?

4 gauge move is not looking good there

and theres also accuracy problem

[hardy fog]

Yea

I think earlier. I saw people throwing him there

[sharp hedge]

the only sure hit move is his buddy move

im using cerena there mostlikely

[candid cobalt]

I’m probably gonna use Eusine there

I’m planning to use Gladion against Misty

[hardy fog]

The only down side is the 4 gauge issue

[outer whale]

I put him as C for Marlon

even if gauge isn't an issue for the team comp they're doing, why use a unit that does Spatk drops on a Physical only stage?

[paper mist]

Burgh will be good there because he gives +1 accuracy per TM use, so without MPR it'll negate his evasion buff

I'm surprised it's not mentioned in the doc

watching the edit in real time lol

[outer whale]

There's a lot of minor things that get glossed by, I'm only one person

[paper mist]

its ok

[onyx crystal]

Unfortunately I’ve been pretty busy myself to completely review everything

[outer whale]

i assure you this was unintentional....... maybe

[cunning shore]

B.A.D sign

[sharp hedge]

isnt elio good for hs

[outer whale]

B A D

[sharp hedge]

mostlikely going to run a double tank with him though

cause with troublemaker he still can fail

[outer whale]

Burgh + Elio?

[sharp hedge]

perhaps

[onyx crystal]

the grass attacks aren't aoe, so why did you put him at D

[sharp hedge]

im not sure where will i place elio but ill def make use of him

[onyx crystal]

Sing-Elio isn't tanking regardless.

But he I guess he would be taking up the rear support position once the main tank falls.

[sharp hedge]

also they really want bede to go to valerie now that i see she has trained mind 3 lol