High Score

[cyan tusk]

Misty is also all special except some sides so ssgladion can wreck her

[mortal timber]

Yup

[outer whale]

hmmm.....

[onyx crystal]

Only reason I don’t want throw ssMina on Misty is the waste of mixed defensive buffing

[cyan tusk]

We were young and reckless back in the days

[untold rampart]

SS Mina gets completely wrecked by Valerie but is Bede able to save her for that stage?

I really wanna run SS Lysandre Bede SS Mina on Valerie

[cyan tusk]

Ssmina has team whimsical reduction 3 and Misty has AoE blizzards

[mortal timber]

I trust my emperor penguin, king of Sinnoh

[cyan tusk]

Plus gladion has alola MF passive that additional reduce special damage

[outer whale]

SS Mina will make Valerie stronger tho

[mortal timber]

That too

[untold rampart]

Fairy zone does not last long

It does not

[outer whale]

Would Mina be able to handle the power boost.... let alone AOE disarming voices

[mortal timber]

She has some team reduction and in case some guard passives

The strikers tho will suffer

[untold rampart]

Man

[mortal timber]

I trust her but not the other two members

But glad to be wrong in case

[onyx crystal]

Is Misty the lone aoe?

Just a dazzling gleam from Penny

[outer whale]

Valerie has AOE

[onyx crystal]

Oh her sides. But low BP at least

[outer whale]

So now i have this.

[haughty haven]

If we dont count sidemon, there are only 2 stage that mid doesnt have aoe move: Marlon and Valerie

[onyx crystal]

Well there are always aoe moves after mid is dead

I wasn’t counting those

[outer whale]

Honestly, I can't think of anywhere else to put SS Mina.

she is useful but then also not useful

[haughty haven]

Her best stage is Misty

Where her rain dance and Fairy Zone doesnt benefit enemy

Her passive make she tank Special very well too

[untold rampart]

She's an absolute wall

Too bad her WTZ boost the enemy's Syncs besides Misty

[outer whale]

I need to see how much damage Sycamore does with leech horn on Elio, because if he can tank with Water guard.....

[onyx crystal]

so then, where does kriSS go if you shove her there

[outer whale]

Valerie

Spdef buffs and opponent doesn't abuse rain

[untold rampart]

Valerie attacks Physically though

But otherwise good

[haughty haven]

Yeah, only downside is you cant abuse Mini Pot like Vs Misty

[onyx crystal]

well she can't go on penny, and her buffs are not good vsMarlon. So that leaves mainly Elio and Valerie.

[haughty haven]

Misty loves spam Blizzard, which Mini Pot really good for that

[outer whale]

Elio can abuse rain

[onyx crystal]

Unextended rain is fine on those stages

[outer whale]

ALSO

SSKris is weak to grass

[haughty haven]

Elio uses Sparking Aria with Rain = Reset

[outer whale]

Which sides spam

[haughty haven]

Oh yeah

[onyx crystal]

okay so realistically only Valerie then

which brings up Def isssue

[haughty haven]

1 side has Giga Drain and Seed Bomb

50% times

[outer whale]

Grief

[onyx crystal]

i don't like the idea of stoic4 on valerie

but I do agree SSmina looks very appealing vsMisty

[untold rampart]

SS Mina SS Gladion VLyra or May on Misty

[outer whale]

May on Misty

Vlyra if 3/5 would be better for Valerie

[untold rampart]

1/5 sadly

[outer whale]

[onyx crystal]

if I move mina there, I'm losing a spot for nyLisia

[untold rampart]

Lisia can work against Penny I think

Her with Dojo and SS Blue or Swimsuit Misty

[outer whale]

I'm using NYLisia on Marlon, I'm using Cerena for Penny

don't have Dojo Gloria

[cyan tusk]

I’m actually not using dojo Gloria

[mortal timber]

Pulling the chad move

[outer whale]

also, i find it funny that Elio and Misty have a rock weak side, but Nessa can't abuse rock tomb meme because grass weak and Physical damage reduction

[cyan tusk]

I know it mind sound horrific being fully invested but there’s no physical abuser in top units

[onyx crystal]

summer Marnie

[cyan tusk]

Skill gear issue

There’s also NYlisia

[outer whale]

Summer Marnie is weird ngl

[mortal timber]

Doesn't she have like overpower devastation and co.

Cuz spirit break

[outer whale]

like who would you use? Summer Marnie, or NY Lisia?

[mortal timber]

Kinda forgot

[outer whale]

she has both

[mortal timber]

Oh wow

[cyan tusk]

I have the feeling both their damage will be kinda underwhelming compared to other units. Tbf summer marnie on Elio is a good idea if fully invested

Bc fairy and debuffs sp atk

[outer whale]

[cyan tusk]

I have my Elio trap setup already

[cyan tusk]

You might want ripple effect to optimize debuff for when dealing with sides

[mortal timber]

Ripple effect 4 looks interesting

Never knew she had it

[outer whale]

too much energy

would need to energy cap unlock twice

[onyx crystal]

I was originally thinking sumMarnie & ssGladion might combo because of but, that is waste of Alola Spirit

[cyan tusk]

Might be worth it

[cyan tusk]

I see summer marnie being partner with SSWally or gloJo, while gladion with ssmina and lodge Lilie

Guys don’t sleep on the lodge flower crown bc she has debuffs and syncro healing and can provide alola master passive boosts

[onyx crystal]

Perena?

[cyan tusk]

If I did not have 3/5 I’d go for her

[outer whale]

HMMMST

sync freebie will be incredibly useful if I'm going to be using Volo to sync for Move gauge

just for reference.

[cyan tusk]

Triple rebuff, penny can max her crit, she is gonna erase sides with fully boosted moonblasts

[mortal timber]

Elio is special atks only or mixed?

[cyan tusk]

Can always swap her with sycamore if needed

Mixed

There’s also liquidation

[mortal timber]

Hm

[cyan tusk]

Elio has 3 use of sparking aria so you want sp def buff for the whole team

[haughty haven]

You’ll want some fast heal too

[cyan tusk]

Also penny debuffs spdef and Perena likes it

[haughty haven]

Bc who know when he decides to use 3 Sparking Aria in a row

[outer whale]

Penny can heal, Sycamore can leech, SS Wally.... suffers

[cyan tusk]

Sswally fish for confusion

Imma play the para/confusion game

[outer whale]

gobsmack moment

[mortal timber]

Now I get why confusion

[haughty haven]

I’m rather pray for evasion than confusion

[cyan tusk]

Elio is lessen confusion 5

[mortal timber]

It's lessen 5 c'mon they can miss

[haughty haven]

Bc confusion always disappoints me

They get confusing and next turn they out of confusion

And ready to ruin your quad queue

[onyx crystal]

"It'd be such a shame if I recovered from confusion right now, became resilient and f*cked you over right now".

[haughty haven]

And Wally Sync need confusion to max dmg

[untold rampart]

It would be a shame if you inflicted Interference and can't apply status now

[cyan tusk]

In this house we love gambling

And we also love redo the team building after 1 day the event is out

And rolling for hybrid gears

[haughty haven]

Days 1 is test for fun

From day 2 is stealing team from everyone

[mortal timber]

Where is the fun

Yeah haha

[haughty haven]

Do low str and enjoy when no need to suffer yet

[cyan tusk]

I see you all, thieves

[haughty haven]

Or suffering day 1 and 🤳 top 1

[mortal timber]

If you see my stuff Pykuo you would laugh

Absolute copium teams

Top 500, can't go more

Impossible

No waying

[haughty haven]

Nah, you’ll be fine this time, right ?
Right ?

[onyx crystal]

🫠 was there a penny rerun?

[digital jungle]

This one seems to be very hard

I don't have any key pieces

[haughty haven]

Mix

[mortal timber]

@cyan tusk Go tell Pykuo how in danger I am tyty xoxo

[onyx crystal]

why is it only wally & bede

[mortal timber]

[onyx crystal]

not even waters

[digital jungle]

The only good stuff I have is SS Mina and SS Lysandre

[haughty haven]

They should do quad banner

[digital jungle]

I might be a bit forked

[haughty haven]

With Penny-SS Mina-SS Wally-Bede

[onyx crystal]

but quad rates

[cyan tusk]

I don’t get paid enough for this

[haughty haven]

[onyx crystal]

penny is gonna wind up stealing 2 of my yellow candies at this rate

[cyan tusk]

Nope, only via mix

[haughty haven]

Oh yeah, about mix

I actually get mix pair today

Red

[cyan tusk]

@haughty haven im a bad influence I persuaded @mortal timber to get the monthly bundle with the yellow coin

[onyx crystal]

thanks for supporting the game

[untold rampart]

Newest team revision. I still don't know what to do vs Marlon

[cyan tusk]

Always a pleasure to support the game

[mortal timber]

Wanna know the funny part tho sages

Fuckin heck

I do a YOLO multi on the triple of banner and I get 3/5 ss Lysandre

[haughty haven]

[mortal timber]

The coins would have been for him LOL

[digital jungle]

Ok how screwed am I

[cyan tusk]

I’d put lodge Lillie on Misty for full alola power

[onyx crystal]

🫠 nice.. not like i have 8/5 ssLysandre for the 5k scam

[cyan tusk]

I have 8/5 glojo, I feel u

And I’m not even gonna use her probably

[haughty haven]

I want to borrow some

For my 2/5 SS Lys and 3/5 DJ Gloria

[untold rampart]

I was thinking Petal Dance DPS

[onyx crystal]

for those that missed it: #poma-lounge message

[mortal timber]

Like water roster, all good, all ok, fairy

[cyan tusk]

I’d see once I roll skill gears if I get good water and fairy gears together tbf

[mortal timber]

Sweet jesus what a mess

[haughty haven]

Ew, gear for Water and Fairy

My gear for only water or fairy still a mess

[mortal timber]

My water gear is on point

Fairy meh

[cyan tusk]

I still have pinned water gears from 1 hse

[main pulsar]

Truuuu

[cyan tusk]

I could start rolling fairy and being good with no mixed teams

[onyx crystal]

Guess I should break these open

[mortal timber]

Oh yeah striker candy today cuz monthly reset

[main pulsar]

You know

[mortal timber]

3/5 eusine here I comeeee

Woo

[main pulsar]

I actually forgot about skill gears

[haughty haven]

Idt 200 is enough

[main pulsar]

Which feathers are the best

[haughty haven]

[main pulsar]

Like color of feather

[onyx crystal]

i have 2500 1-stars

[digital jungle]

Is 200k attainable for most people

[hollow prism]

Field cakes are 🤡 for HSE

[haughty haven]

If you invest to most pair, i think it pretty easy

[digital jungle]

Everything I have is Water (almost literally no fairy)

And 1/5

[hollow prism]

Yeah this is why LySS wants 5/5

[onyx crystal]

it's not like you have a meaningful stockpile of the other colors.

[main pulsar]

It’s why this one person I talked too open my eye on field ex

[hollow prism]

I have 4/5 but mix exists and i need strike candies bad

[main pulsar]

Ouf

[outer whale]

This legit makes me wish we could toggle off and ON EX.

[onyx crystal]

the most I have is 32 purple, 27 green, and 18 for the others, 22 white

[hollow prism]

Yeah

This is the only game mode it matters too

Once again showing why Field role in general is trash

[main pulsar]

Not rly

Cuz like for geeta

I still want it

[untold rampart]

I really think level-backscaling should be a thing, albeit you probably can't say transfer a Tech candy to somebody who'd actually need it

[main pulsar]

And anni may

[hollow prism]

Geeta’s role still sucks

[main pulsar]

If I’m not using psychic terrain why am I using the unit

[untold rampart]

Field Sync pairs get higher stats on average

At 150

[hollow prism]

Yeah but that’s not innately part of their kit

They just get those stats bc their role is so shit

[outer whale]

transferring move levels to another unit would be downright broken

[main pulsar]

Also ssmorty field role is really good too

It’s not an inherently bad role

It’s just more niche than others

[hollow prism]

SSMorty could benefit from field i suppose

[untold rampart]

Field is infintely better as an EX Role though

[hollow prism]

But i’d still prefer sprint

[main pulsar]

wtf u mean COULD

It’s his best role

Literally

[hollow prism]

Nah sprint better

[haughty haven]

Bc other option is sprint

[onyx crystal]

why are you complaining about exr? You just don't use bede on that fight

[untold rampart]

Like Holiday Viola would rather be Tech with Field EX not vice-versa

[haughty haven]

SS Morty with Striker or Tech cake

[main pulsar]

Cuz rip mystical fire

[haughty haven]

[main pulsar]

Super effective

Ssmorty sprint would be mid

[hollow prism]

You couldn’t do that if you caked anni may for psychic

[main pulsar]

Wdym

She was useful with her cake

[hollow prism]

Not if you use her on Liza

[main pulsar]

They did use her on Liza

What are you talkin about

[onyx crystal]

well field also affects TM design

[hollow prism]

Have fun giving Liza a super sync

It made it so you couldn’t sync with her at all

[onyx crystal]

well it wouldn't hurt to have an option to toggle, but it's very niche

it'd be kind of cool to downgrade temporarily and try cs with like 120-125 no ex stats.

[waxen thorn]

It'd be interesting for la soloing

[cyan tusk]

When rolling for skill gears being like: mmmh I might use this combo

[hollow prism]

Jesus christ how many possible gears is that bro

Chill

You got like 15 pieces there

[cyan tusk]

I was rolling for a gear I could use on a specific team

And every time I got water OR fairy in a gear I just kept it

Still did not get a pin for this team

[hollow prism]

Moving forward it’ll be correct to pin a set of gear for each type

And then cycle through for good stats and the other type all at once

[cyan tusk]

I’ve already done the skill gears by type tbh

[hollow prism]

So Pin on anything not Fire water grass etc is trash

[cyan tusk]

Just rolling casually when I got a good amount of stats kept it

And rolled anything else

Some of my gears are pinned for the water theme skill

[night sleet]

Nice skill gears bicio

I will be rolling when now wat units use on stages:)

[main pulsar]

I ageee

I will farm feathers with our stamina

[hollow prism]

Farming feathers with stamina sucks tbh

I spam the 1* feathers in the Rally shop bc I score over 8k per week, so i can easily afford the whole set

[trim beacon]

@haughty haven @cyan tusk @wooden sparrow hi besties did yall formulate best teams yet

[cyan tusk]

Not yet, waiting for the event to drop

[trim beacon]

I had 2/5 last time but I got 2 copies from the paid 5k tech cake thing so now I have him 4/5, worth giving him a candy?

I'll wait days LATER after event drops

[wooden sparrow]

teams will absolutely need first hand experience with the event to be the best

also i won't be tryharding this event

[trim beacon]

WHY MR DUCK

Mr Quack WHY

I need ur help 😭😭😭

U don't understand how cute the medal is for this event

[wooden sparrow]

my roster is not competitive enough unfort

[paper mist]

saw talk debating if Gilbert would be good for Bug HSE, when Bug is weak to Fire and many are also weak to Elec and Ice due to Flying dual type, plus some are also weak to Bug and Water too

[cyan tusk]

You have to unleash a full alola team for this event at least

[wooden sparrow]

i'll come up with the best ss mina team trust

(mine is only 3/5 lol)

[cyan tusk]

(5/5 is expensive af)

But I know you’ll be unleashing full power with an alola fairy comp 🧚

[mortal timber]

i believe in you quag

[trim beacon]

So now I need 5/5 MINA TOO?!

IM DED

U know what I'm sending my roster and yall tell me if I'm competive or not

[cyan tusk]

Best teams require best investments

[paper mist]

I have a better chance at top 1k this time but I know no Bede, Dahlia and Cerena will keep me from top 500

[trim beacon]

I think I'm fked

No wally or penny dupes

FML

[paper mist]

also my SSWally is only 1/5 and Vyra is 2/5, and I will not be candying them (or Bede/Dahlia if Mix decides to be nice to me)

[cyan tusk]

What’s your goal?

[trim beacon]

Don't hurt my dreams and tell me what's realistic for me I sob

[cyan tusk]

I don’t know your skill level lol

[trim beacon]

Be honest, I promise I won't cry too long

[wooden sparrow]

i appreciate it!! but I just am not nearly as motivated when my roster is looking like this lol

[cyan tusk]

I mean top 10K is a joke with those units, also top 1K I think. More than that it’s about your skill level

[mortal timber]

gonna cheer you up with mine buddy, have a nice laugh

get ready hahah

[cyan tusk]

Tbf you’re better than you think

[paper mist]

I think my biggest advantage is having 5/5 Eusine and LySSandre for debuffs when most have maybe 3/5

[trim beacon]

So top 500 and up is impossible 😭😭😭

[trim beacon]

Yes u do

[cyan tusk]

This allows to score for higher strength so higher points

[wooden sparrow]

how I see the event is I am a good enough player to get top 100 like no matter what but I cannot push for those satisfying, high point clears when my roster is so underdeveloped

[paper mist]

last time my LySSandre was 4/5 and Eusine 3/5

thanks Mix

[wooden sparrow]

I enjoyed electric and psychic cause my rosters were really good for those types, and for all others I just didn't really get motivated for it

[cyan tusk]

The real question is why only 2/5 gladion

Does him hurt you?

[wooden sparrow]

idk man he's good as is for now!

gauntlet brain only need sync regen

[cyan tusk]

Hse brain needs devastation and refresh on B Move

Btw you are not missing any crucial unit at all, I do see a pretty good roaster. It might need a couple of candies here and there but not so many tbh. Like I’d say dahlia cerena and gladion and you can fly high

[mortal timber]

Water is doing good on my end but fairy ☠️

Enjoy and laugh with me lol

rare ex bp valerie moment, true desperate move hahah

[trim beacon]

Ur other VALERIE SHOULD BE EX

[mortal timber]

mawile >>>

plus mega bias in general, mega mawile my beloved, introduced me in vgc

pmarnie in fact, i adore her

[wooden sparrow]

that roster I think is like at the same tier as mine unless I'm just missing something

most i see is no cerena to 1/5 cerena

[trim beacon]

What about me Mr quaggles

Who should I upgrade if I wanna be top 100

Aka cake and candy

[mortal timber]

imma still try what i can despite everything, eusine gonna be at 3/5 tomorrow thanks to striker candy

gonna vibe with the rest and see what happens

[paper mist]

Elec was annoying due to lack of Supports but in my case I suffered due to no Ash to use against Surge

[mortal timber]

also don't mind the maxed grid empoleon

my goals with that thing are a mystery

[wooden sparrow]

realistically I just say upgrade the most recent limited units you have which are dahlia and penny

[paper mist]

I think Elec is gonna be paired with Steel because we have 3 Steel-types with T-Wave for some reason and then VThorton, so Paralysis will be a guarateed bonus again

plus it helps that a lot of Steels are slow and most Elec are fast and/or buff speed

[trim beacon]

[wooden sparrow]

candying would be nice but I'm probably gonna have to spend candies on variety guzma and plumeria - my life really sucks I gotta spend on the video game ya know?

[trim beacon]

Why will u candy them

[wooden sparrow]

one of 20 owners at the end of that day

[mortal timber]

oh shoot true, variety alolan units

[paper mist]

also means Rose would likely be a key with High Horsepower

[trim beacon]

Oh he is an alolan stan

[paper mist]

why does VPlum exist

[cyan tusk]

Well… they did it nasty with the 2 varieties

Kinda underwhelming

[wooden sparrow]

those banners are going to feel so ass to pull on but the games the game

[paper mist]

I will gladly take Guzma because god I need more Villain Supports, but why does VPlum exist

[trim beacon]

Reminds us that gengar is poison too

[wooden sparrow]

i am the one supporting these lazy banners sorry chat

[paper mist]

I don't think I'm ever gonna use her outside of LG and possibly the Poison HSE

[cyan tusk]

My guess is fire ground and electric - poison tbf

[trim beacon]

But also like does this mean I'm not getting my darn morty with gengar

[paper mist]

me 2 see server name

[mortal timber]

Vguzma was close to greatness tbh, i kinda like him

[wooden sparrow]

i noticed lol

[mortal timber]

plumeria i have no clue what happened

[paper mist]

I'd say Ground with Rock due to being the most common types for Sand use, whereas Sand and Sun clash too much

[cyan tusk]

The only good thing about Vguzma is that sshilbert is a thing and he needs a support to drops speed for his full AoE nuke

[trim beacon]

What about grass and POISON

[paper mist]

Fire with Fighting because DeNA wants to be funny about the Gen 3-5 Starters

[mortal timber]

fire ground me too bicio and i think

we both know why

[trim beacon]

What about ice

[mortal timber]

[trim beacon]

Who would ice be paired with

[mortal timber]

a little clue

[cyan tusk]

[mortal timber]

i was actually reasoning over maxie

and was like

heck how is he gonna keep sun

then i think "oh, dual type, fire"

[paper mist]

Elec/Steel, Fire/Fighting, Grass/Bug?, Psychic/Flying, Rock/Ground, Dark/Ghost?, Ice/Poison, Dragon/Normal

[cyan tusk]

I thing ghost will get his own hse

[paper mist]

Normal has the most Supports in the game but lacks good offensive pairs, so pair it with Dragon who has the opposite problem

ghost could, but then another type would need to go solo too

[mortal timber]

i can't wait to unleash pal victor for normal man

[paper mist]

imagine if Grass & Fire got shared

sun stonks

[mortal timber]

scovillain pair incoming frfr

[cyan tusk]

We almost got 5 1K points run in grass hse

[mortal timber]

but me thinks fire is gonna go to ground for maxie reasons

grass was very weird

probably the most accessible of them all

[paper mist]

Fire could also go to Fighting for Koraidon

especially if Sada & Koraidon are next month

[mortal timber]

hoenn nc

praying circle

it's from ss wally they don't get a PF

or higher

time to time

[paper mist]

we could also get Poison/Flying if DeNA wants to be funny about the amount of Zubat fam sync pairs

[hollow prism]

I also want a mf set that isn’t all strike field units

[sharp hedge]

top 1 is using anni may on liza back in psychic hs

[outer whale]

ok, going to continue working on the spreadsheet, this time, fairies

[sullen pier]

Can provide Evasiveness however Valerie has Pinpoint Entry"

I don't think this point shouldnt be taken on Valerie for SS Misty because she just haze acc buffs away

[outer whale]

Oh good point!

[sullen pier]

[outer whale]

to be fair, most of water has been transferred over from the Water HSE, so there will still be some outdated information

[onyx crystal]

I'm taking a look at it rn, if you want me to check something

[outer whale]

think the only thing is to make the stage rules row a bit smaller

[onyx crystal]

I think we may need a less-is-more approach.

[outer whale]

it's hard to make it less when there's a lot that 5/5 units can provide.

especially with B moves in play

[shy flax]

Now that the stage details are out, should I use a Tech cake on Volo (1/5), Archie (3/5), or SS Lysandre (3/5)?

I don’t mind using a move Candy on Volo

SS Lysandre seems to have the better sync nuke, but I feel like Archie would benefit more from the stat boosts (plus he’s a fav)

[onyx crystal]

better to wait to see where units are settling in before making investments

If Archie is going to be on a team, he will likely only be syncing once, to trigger Shower Sync, most other times it will be more beneficial for another unit to sync.

[shy flax]

Hmm okay, I was hoping to squeeze in some more battle rally points but I can wait for now

[onyx crystal]

Lysandre would apperciate a stronger sync, it's already good ofc.

If you're not super into making into a specific scoring bracket, role-caking Archie isn't going to make a difference, so if he's a unit you want to improve, go for it.

[main pulsar]

Tbh i think he won’t be touching his sync ever

Cuz extension

Better to have another unit click rain dance

[onyx crystal]

I used it in the 1st hse

[main pulsar]

Yeah but

We didn’t have fairy back then

So an extra usage of rain could be feasibly helpful

But here they are only 2 stages

To use rain

So I doubt you need exactly one more

[onyx crystal]

don't you mean 3?

[main pulsar]

When there are 2 Uber good supports with rain dance

No 2

What’s the third sages

[onyx crystal]

nvm, forgot penny

[main pulsar]

Yeee

[outer whale]

Man, Marnie might actually have use in this High Score Ev- o-oh......

@onyx crystal gradings are set, feel free to change as needed.

[onyx crystal]

Inteleon and Grimmsnarl continue to be mistakes.

[royal tiger]

huh NC Serena is A for misty? D:

[outer whale]

Brutal Swing Staggering and confusion DPS will be hindered slightly from the rule. @royal tiger

[royal tiger]

i see

forgot about the physical damage reduction hrm.

[outer whale]

it's not too much of a hinderance, but it should be noted at least.

especially if going for confusion with her

[royal tiger]

i might actually do +5 energy for NC Serena then.

[outer whale]

Alright, i'm done for the night. Please feel free to ping me if there is any confusion. I will now get ready for bed

.....no pun inended there

[oak fulcrum]

any confusion? save that for getting 1000 points maybe

[candid cobalt]

Bede can lower attack at 3/5 albeit randomly

Tho by the time Valerie syncs you’d have used Dazzling Gleam enough that there is at least a couple of atk debuffs

[outer whale]

it's incredibly inconsistent to warrant use

[sharp hedge]

its hs

youre bound to fish for rng

[shy flower]

Link go to bed

[candid cobalt]

It’s honestly pretty reliable

But that’s only what I’ve seen when I use him lul

Using him as an aoe debuffer is extremely fun

[hollow prism]

I mean atk debuffs on sides is useless

It’s only mid that you care about

Obviously sync matters but you’re ideally never letting sides land a hit regardless

[cunning shore]

I am waiting for all the fairyless runs

[candid cobalt]

Wha

How do the sides not hit if you don't have a flincher or sleeper

[cunning shore]

You pray

[candid cobalt]

😭

The sides will use at least one move usually before mid syncs right?

And then after that only mid uses moves

[shy flower]

So ideally you get the sides to use TMs or weak moves

You only have to worry about them after mid goes down

[candid cobalt]

Yeah makes sense

Mfw the side queues up Hydro Pump

Or any 3 gauge move for that matter

[shy flower]

The amount of times I had to reset after Blaine's side Salazzle queued Sludge Wave or the Volcarona queued Overheat

[candid cobalt]

I was about to ask when Blaine was ever part of a HSE then remembered that Fire HSE existed

I completely wiped Fire HSE from my brain because it was terrible for me

[shy flower]

That was the only one I actually tried hard and did well in

[mortal timber]

[candid cobalt]

Complete opposite for me

After all I can't do much when this is my roster

[shy flower]

Oof fair

I had every pair except V Kiawe and I was really disappointed to not do as well in the Elec HS as I wanted, so I really pushed for Fire

I still think I was the highest placed player to only use Fire pairs, though I can't confirm it because we still can't see teams

[maiden canopy]

Who would you give sprint EXR to? SS Gladion or SS Wally?

[candid cobalt]

I'd give it to Wally

[shy flower]

SS Dawn and NC Rosa Probably Wally depending on their respective move levels

[mortal timber]

Almost brought torchic in 24th iirc, sadly by off typing smth I could have got even better points so had to swap it out

But i am extremely proud of that one

[shy flower]

I think I got to 70th with Torchic before I swapped to Evelyn

Torchic is underrated

[mortal timber]

legend

And perfect score too

5s and 0s

[shy flower]

[mortal timber]

This event chezei is gonna be nightmare-ish for me ngl

Fairy might be among one of my weakest rosters ngl

[shy flower]

I'm really underinvested in Fairy too I'm not expecting to do well

[mortal timber]

Time to candy eusine here with my striker

[maiden canopy]

My SS Wally is 5/5 and SS Gladion is 3/5

[cunning shore]

Join me, this side is cold and dark

[mortal timber]

Like I have the new ones but aside those

I am left with uh

Sylveon, the weak one

[cunning shore]

I only got Gladion

Fullstop

[mortal timber]

Granbull

[hardy fog]

Yall talk smack about how weak your roster is then pull top 100. 😴

[candid cobalt]

Tbf it is all the newer fairies that will contribute more

[cunning shore]

(bede too but only 1/5)

[candid cobalt]

So if you've got like

[mortal timber]

Zero Bede here haha

[cunning shore]

I will fully depend on water units

[forest ferry]

Do I have chance without gladion, dahlia and Wally?

[cunning shore]

I will say yes

[candid cobalt]

Gladion or Volo or Penny or Wally in your fairy roster

[hardy fog]

You should know your place by now Blaze without spending money

[candid cobalt]

I think you'll do fine

[cunning shore]

No way full water roster falls that far behind

[hardy fog]

100..... and 30

And I spend money I get... 102

So your deal is much better

[forest ferry]

I'll surely hit top 100 with diantha

[candid cobalt]

Diantha stonks frfr

[cunning shore]

[hardy fog]

Fark 107

Not even 102

[cunning shore]

I will try for top 100 again personally

[forest ferry]

Next month has MF anyways so rolling this month is bait

[candid cobalt]

I wonder how Diantha will fare with -2 fairy rebuff if you pair her with Penny and SS Wally

[maiden canopy]

Still SS Wally or SS Gladion?

[candid cobalt]

Wally

[forest ferry]

Elio is like easiest stage to shove fairy zone

But it's also -80 stats for striker

So no gladion abuse

[hardy fog]

Why not just wait

[cunning shore]

Imagine having fairy zone

[hardy fog]

You can use the cake 3 days in. You will have a fair idea where you get best value

[forest ferry]

My fz is ssmina

2/5 btw

[cunning shore]

Move levels not an issue for me

[forest ferry]

I already caked lyss

[cunning shore]

My issue always with having the units

I am good at moving my resources

[forest ferry]

Move level matter quite a bit

A lot of 1/5 limiteds not good

Especially old PFs

[cunning shore]

They're 1/5 till i need them to be higher

[hardy fog]

My homework so far

[cunning shore]

Like Fire HS I candied quite the few

[forest ferry]

Cerenaless

[mortal timber]

Always and forever

[cunning shore]

Oh right I gots Cerena

[shy flower]

Gonna hit Top 100 with my 5/5 EX +10E Pal Dawn and S Lyra

[hardy fog]

Cerena is just a support unit this hs 😂

[cunning shore]

Should I candy that Greninja

[hardy fog]

Debuff

[cunning shore]

Wait

Not candy

Should i cake that ninja*

My cerena already 3/5

[mortal timber]

Yrs

[hardy fog]

I candied Mina. Cerena. Gladion. Dahlia. Caked 3 of them. And then I'm going to get 107

[forest ferry]

Support cake is too much competition

Wait out a bit

[mortal timber]

Cake her, it's good

[cunning shore]

What others competition do we have in the same HSE?

Like for support cake

[hardy fog]

Djglo

[cunning shore]

Cerena and Dojo, right?

[mortal timber]

Dojo Gloria

[cunning shore]

That's it?

[forest ferry]

Vlyra

[cunning shore]

Don't have that

[mortal timber]

Based

[maiden canopy]

How does it look? Where will I land?

I'm missing a lot of key players

[cunning shore]

Bit rough

[forest ferry]

Better than mine

[cunning shore]

You have a good core

[hardy fog]

Top 200 is possible

[cunning shore]

But missing some mvps

[maiden canopy]

I know SS Mina is godly, but who else?

[hardy fog]

The fairy dmg is decent

[maiden canopy]

Dahlia?

[cunning shore]

I should upgrade my roster thingie

[maiden canopy]

And Volo?

[hardy fog]

Dahlia. Penny

Volo is top 50 difference imo

Not huge impact

[maiden canopy]

They say to double candy my KriSS, but will NY Lisia see use?

[mortal timber]

Honestly having difficulty placing her

[forest ferry]

NYlisia will see use if you are using her vs penny

[hardy fog]

Kriss is such a fun tank though

[forest ferry]

I don't have Kriss

[hardy fog]

The horse... I don't know if you see her much after hs with gladion in the roster

[forest ferry]

Already 50k less pts vs misty

[hardy fog]

Kriss has no competition for what she offers

[maiden canopy]

Will there be an off-type strat here?

[cunning shore]

Basically my boost for this roster is candying LySS, Dojo, Bede. Nothing else i can do

[forest ferry]

Well her competition is Mina to cover the role

But Mina is so much better in other stages

[hardy fog]

Yea ig.

[forest ferry]

While Kris only Excel vs misty

[hardy fog]

Mina is my pref ATM. But mf Passive. Flinch. Mga.

And all the random SMUN

[forest ferry]

You aren't flinching post sync misty

It's kind of bait tile

[hardy fog]

Makes her fun

[forest ferry]

Coz all her other moves are TM

[maiden canopy]

Also, after EXR-ing SS Wally, SS Lysandre or SS Gladion next?

[hardy fog]

Lysandre will make bigger impact with that cake

[cunning shore]

You think?

[forest ferry]

Gladion likely doesn't need cake

[hardy fog]

Yes think about how many sync we use in HS

[cunning shore]

Gladion already caked for rally lawl

[hardy fog]

We sync like 4-6 times

[forest ferry]

Lysandre cake is big if you lack tech nukers

[mortal timber]

Almost similar roster haha, I have few things more but it's there

[hardy fog]

Gladion use cake just once

Lysandre get like 3x return

[forest ferry]

Gladion cake is such a scam

[cunning shore]

If you have the ludicolo that's already big boost

[maiden canopy]

Got 11 tech cake coins, which means I can give EXR to both LySS and Wally

[cunning shore]

Big investment in Lysandre incoming

5/5 cake les gooo

[hardy fog]

BUT in saying that. Sprint makes 5 sync significantly easier which push higher str

[cunning shore]

Next monday i can get 2 different role cakes

[hardy fog]

If I had to choose... I prob go lyss

[forest ferry]

There's no higher strength than 1000

[maiden canopy]

Is there a huge difference between 3/5 and 5/5 SS Wally for using him on different stages?

[forest ferry]

Just quad better

[hardy fog]

Only time will tell bro 😂

[hardy fog]

How though why so many cakes

[cunning shore]

My coins will enable me to get a full cake and a half

If i scrape some of my daily tix too

I can make 2 diff cakes

[forest ferry]

I actually have most stuff I own caked

[cunning shore]

Is there any unit that needs field cake in this hse

😂

[forest ferry]

Bede

If you are going for it

[cunning shore]

Do you know how much investment

That mofo wants

I don't even remember why i pulled him back in the day

I think i just yolo'd for him n got him first multi

Oh yeah fairy was awful so i wanted anything to help with it

[forest ferry]

I caked every water fairy except Archie

[mortal timber]

I have fini, Wally and volo more than you

No ludicolo and cserena

[cunning shore]

That's a lot 😭😭😭

[mortal timber]

Fini 3/5, volo Wally 1/5

[cunning shore]

Oh no cerena

[mortal timber]

Yes like last time

[cunning shore]

Now that's a trade

[forest ferry]

No cerena doesn't matter when you have prettymuch every other unit

[mortal timber]

Doubt

Since it's her and not like Archie

But will see

Eusine just got 3/5, this means that so far all my water roster is 3/5 +

Just to give you an idea on how fairy drags me down so badly

[forest ferry]

well my best fairy dps is diantha so

Can't even use vs elio

[cunning shore]

I mean

You have the 5 important fairies

Given you probably won't use all of them

You will have the option to

Me on the other hand
Gotta pray Gladion outputs too much damage

By himself

[cunning shore]

If i use diantha, i must have lost my reasoning

[forest ferry]

well my second best option is summer Lyra

[candid cobalt]

Gladion will do just fine on his own

[sharp hedge]

will he

[candid cobalt]

I’m very much looking forward to seeing the B Fleur Cannon numbers

B Fleur Cannon solves all your problems :D

[sharp hedge]

you probably still want a 3/5 tech for gladion

but i dont have any 3/5 fairy nuker

[candid cobalt]

Katherine

[shy flower]

I dunno how well I can do this time

[candid cobalt]

You literally just posted the entire roster

[shy flower]

I don't have L Adaman!

[cunning shore]

15 candies

And I thought

I am too good with my resources

I wanna hide

[candid cobalt]

Bestie if it makes you feel better I never save my candies

[shy flower]

I only have so many because I haven't had much of a reason to use them yet

And I don't wanna use them on non-faves

[cunning shore]

I am just reacting to me mentioning earlier how move levels are not an issue because I manage my resources well for HSEs

[candid cobalt]

[sullen pier]

[cunning shore]

Tbh
The only two units I feel I will regret not having from everything I seen are Ludicolo and probably Sylveon(the good one).

The rest I can handle or replace somehow

[shy flower]

Ngl I wish I could, like, push my roster out and let people have fun with it

Copy it into people's games for a week during HS or LG and be like "go off bestie"

[candid cobalt]

give us the account deets

[shy flower]

I imagine that I would get the account back completely broke and I'd have 5/5 EX Cheren and Furbert

shudder

[candid cobalt]

Surely you can spare a few candies

[shy flower]

Not for those two

[candid cobalt]

Ok but go candy Gloria

[shy flower]

S Gloria to 5/5 coming right up

[candid cobalt]

[shy flower]

I probably will candy her, I do like her

[candid cobalt]

I mean I’d assume you do considering she is EX’d

[shy flower]

She also has the little pink heart

[candid cobalt]

Omg I didn’t notice till you said so

[shy flower]

[royal tiger]

amen to this.

[sharp hedge]

ss wally is probably a big one

3/5 that is

[untold rampart]

@onyx crystal I think Kris should have a B- on Marlon because Mega Kick isn't perfectly accurate once he raises evasion (which he will do)

[hardy fog]

Chezi you had all the psychic but you didn't try last time so how well you do this time will depend on if you try 😂

[onyx crystal]

alright

[cunning shore]

On the other side of the coin you'd get your account back but top of the hse without doing anything yourself

True gacha experience

Gambling with accounts

[cunning shore]

I will fight against the tide

[sharp hedge]

i wished water/fairy had better gen pools

psychic actually have a lot of good spotlight

also stored power op

[cunning shore]

Had me crying with 1/5 Olympia

Maybe I should max my mix banner and pick the most necessary unit i am missing

My wallet just looked at my sideways

[hollow prism]

We do this funny thing called R O L L F O R X I T E M S

[candid cobalt]

Too much effort smh

[sharp hedge]

im planning on getting mina myself

jacq has to wait

[cunning shore]

I need a lot still

Depends on how i fair in first week of hse

[onyx crystal]

it feels like there's 2 main branches

• the one where you use ssKris vsMisty
• the one where you use ssMina vsMisty

and from there, it kind of determines how you'll do the rest of the stages

[untold rampart]

I think SS Mina on Misty with SS Gladion is the way

Then you use SS Kris with SS Lysandre and Bede

Added bonus is SS Mina has Protect for the eventual Horn Drill (if it hasn't been sniped by Gladion already)

Unironically think Marlon is the main filter, he's filtering me. He has the least A and S Tier options it feels

[onyx crystal]

whose the 3rd wtih Mina & Gladion on Misty?

[untold rampart]

Penny, VLyra, May or Dahlia

Very versitile 3rd wheel options because Misty has a lot of great options against her

[forest ferry]

Oh my god
I only have 4 servicable teams

Confusion condition also so limiting

[untold rampart]

It's become very clear Dahlia was built for this event ( )

[onyx crystal]

I candied and caked her for this, but she also is strong regardless. Hopefully we don't powercreep her too quickly.

[untold rampart]

Newer stuff doesn't seem to get as powercrept as hard. Past 2 months haven't introduced anything too game breaking I feel. Rika and SC Barry are meta units but aren't meta-defining or anything. They seem to keep powering up old good stuff like the 3rd Anniversary Master Fairs (not named Ash) and all the Pokefairs that are getting EX Roles and/or 5/5 grids.

[forest ferry]

I actually have to run cerena vs Valerie coz I don't have another spl def dropper

[untold rampart]

Me trying for top 500 without Cerena or Dahlia

[onyx crystal]

Are you going Sync Burst 1 or X. Sp Def mpr?
I can't afford Satisfied Snicker 9 without giving up Team Fist Bump.
PomaTools Team Builder (vsElio)

[cyan tusk]

Not using team fist bump

[forest ferry]

It looks so cursed

misty team still has no confusion access

I might roll for 5/5 lyss

[onyx crystal]

that elio team

[forest ferry]

I'll probably use adaman instead of wake

[hollow prism]

Yeah wtf are you cooking

Also if neither Lillie gets used this HS ima be mad

[forest ferry]

I just want confusion access
My penny is 1/5

I rly don't want to use candy on her since I know she's useless after hs ends

[hollow prism]

Penny is not useless post HS

[forest ferry]

I have Mina if I want fairy core

[hollow prism]

Doesn’t she have sp def -2 per hit

[forest ferry]

No gladion as well anw

-1

[onyx crystal]

fairy hse making me candy penny instead of chase 🫠

[haughty haven]

Wake

[forest ferry]

I think this might be better but going same type is usually better

Still dunno what to do

If I can get 5/5 lyss, I can run Archie, Mina, Barry for misty and lyss, may, misty for Valerie to get better results

But in the end I am still missing confusion on 1 team

[outer whale]

SS Mina is risky there.

[untold rampart]

There's also the potential NC Blue play for Misty's stage but I think Mina will be able to tank it.

[forest ferry]

Not like I have other choices

Just gotta rely on atk and spl def down for paldawn

If I want better survival I need 5/5 lyss for role compression

[cyan tusk]

I don’t see any problem in Mina tanking btw

Team whimsical reduction 3 + alola mf passive + rain gear + refreshing rain

Ssmina is a literal wall lol

[waxen thorn]

Aoe regen on tm, draining kiss and b move that's minipot+aoe dmg guard

[haughty haven]

That is the worst idea actually

NC Blue weaks to Ice

[untold rampart]

He can live Thorton's Ultimate Battle he could live this

Of course I'm not doing that though

[hollow prism]

I think ima do NCBlue Archie on Misty to free up gladion mina elsewhere

I’m low on tanks

It’s not great but i’m missing way too much

No Kris no Lyra no Volo no Penny

[forest ferry]

it's fairy
How are you low on tanks

You have sycamore, ice cream, SSblue , elio for F2P access already

[cyan tusk]

Lana*

Lana can tank Marlon with double water guard btw, since he’s physical

[untold rampart]

Rock Tomb is a bit scary

[forest ferry]

He does no damage

It's like 50 BP

None of marlon's move was threatening
That's why he was ez to 100k+ as long as you had cerena

[untold rampart]

I don't have herr

[forest ferry]

Just bruteforce it

Water is much better access now and gears exist

Back then we had to use the old gears

[untold rampart]

Volo + NY Lisia is going to be jank but I think it'll work decently

[cyan tusk]

Well base volo 1/5 has double debuffing with passive + personal LS

It’s a bit of gamble but not that much

[cyan tusk]

We still used to handle him with debuffs

[oak fulcrum]

50% of the time is a lot of the time, I’m debating running unfort4 on mine but I can take all of the debuffing tiles anyways for a potential 5x spread without it so I don’t think it’s as worth

[hollow prism]

I don’t have SSBlue

My tanks are sycamore, Lana, Elio, SSMina

Idk if any others can take super high str

[cyan tusk]

Do you have 5/5 volo?

[oak fulcrum]

70 energy as well

[cyan tusk]

True volo Stan

[oak fulcrum]

I was going for 3/5 but then back to back dailies happened, then later the same month got back to back dailies for Emma on the LG banner lol
so now I also have 5/5 Emma

[cyan tusk]

This would be my 5/5 Volo
if I had one

[oak fulcrum]

yeah that’s basically the grid I was thinking, never used his gobsmack tile before this so should be boring but good

[forest ferry]

ice cream can

[onyx crystal]

where are you putting volo?

[forest ferry]

It has mini potion, U9, and both defenses to buff

And confusion access

[oak fulcrum]

my first draft has him with Sycamore and the Bede I don’t have on Elio, but I am skeptical about that team

[onyx crystal]

still debating about if Cerena should go vsMarlon or vsPenny

[hollow prism]

Who is Ice Cream 😭

MC Alcremie?

[forest ferry]

yes

The bulk is very workable on spl side

[onyx crystal]

[cyan tusk]

Im using him on Marlon

[onyx crystal]

Mines only 1/5

[cyan tusk]

I’d use him with ssmina if you are going for her on the fairy side btw

[cyan tusk]

Emmm… I’m skeptical about gauge on the Misty team

[oak fulcrum]

I am… I paired Cerena with her since she would get some extra value out of the rain sets but Cerena can move around just a little bit

[onyx crystal]

well there's Whims Accel 2 and Rain Accel 3.

[cyan tusk]

@mortal timber was testing that team and gauge was not helping

[night sleet]

Dont get why use gladion and archie is same team?

They die after sync

How you recover hp whit mina?

B move 1 time use

Blizzard hit more then 1 time

For 900-1k str?

And mina not ss kriss 3 moves max sped def

Its take some time befor it will be maxed

So archie and gladion get more damage

Gladion 4 gauge move archie 3 ?

Mina 2 gauge

And you now if you sync whit gladion mina lose terrain.

Nobody can set it back

Its why mix water fairy for me if we use rain or zone not best combo

[mortal timber]

ss mina kyogre magearna?

ye, after first sync then it becomes quite meh

[oak fulcrum]

I’m scared of gauge there seeing a 4+3/4 together, maybe the output is high enough on low strengths but putting Mina on low strength seems not great

[night sleet]

I would stick water team like befor

Or fairy

Like mina gladion wally

Wally can set zone for mina and low sts accu its

And you will not sync whit mina after 1 time so need keep terrain.

Volo bede or wally

[oak fulcrum]

I might do some kind of Mina/Gladion/Wally team on Marlon actually, that seems better than my current plan

[night sleet]

Dont think is good idea

[cyan tusk]

You can swap Wally with volo

[night sleet]

Gladion make sens use when you can use special attack lower

So you get less damage

Marlon physical

[mortal timber]

gladion makes sense on misty and penny imo

[onyx crystal]

You get to +5 before enemy 1st sync, I've tested the gauge. Seems fine.

[mortal timber]

the gauge was very very ass after mina's sync

[night sleet]

How you keep gauge when no mina terrain?

[mortal timber]

once you start nuking with even gladion, you have no gauge to quad queue smth else

[oak fulcrum]

Or throw the team at large toward Penny since I have a stacked water rain team for Misty already, but worried about no zone

[mortal timber]

i tried it on CS just for the gauge

it's so bad after zone goes away

b move also eat a lot of zone and rain time

very annoying

[night sleet]

Since b move is slow

Like volo use b move its also not best deal

[mortal timber]

this ofc if we still talking about fini ogre magearna

[night sleet]

And? When is terrain is ok but wat after its lost?

[oak fulcrum]

yeah I have a feeling the battle is going to last longer than the terrain does but if it can be cleared inside the terrain available then that seems like it’ll work

[onyx crystal]

If you save Archie X Sp.Atk and X Speed, you can still queue. after zone is gone

[paper mist]

After thinking, should I move Mina to Valerie, Sycamore to Elio and Blue to Marlon? And move Volo somewhere? Or keep them and go for as high as possible with Marlon?

I mostly had Sycamore against Valerie to max out Lysandre's SpA and provide team speed but I forgot Vyra buffs party speed

[hollow prism]

Yeah Sycamore does nothing vs Valerie

[paper mist]

Misty team is the only one I feel 100% confident with

[hollow prism]

I still think he’s best placed on Elio as a special wall because his healing is buffed by grass weak

And Marlon is physical

[paper mist]

yeah I was thinking that

[hollow prism]

I still think Glojo goes with him if you have Cerena to take out penny

[paper mist]

and Blue has faster defensive buffing than Mina but Gladion will lose FZ damage, but placing her with Valerie will buff Valerie's damage instead

I do not

[hollow prism]

Also Lana to tank Marlon

[paper mist]

the big ones I'm missing are Cerena, Dahlia, and Bede, and copies for Wally (1/5), Palrena (2/5), and Vyra (2/5)

[hollow prism]

I’m missing 4 of those and then like half the exclusive pool

[paper mist]

Lana+Gladion sounds like death on my gauges

[hollow prism]

It is idk if Gladion is correct on Marlon

4 gauge strikers 🤡

[paper mist]

its probably not but Lysandre is a lock for Valerie and Dojo for Penny

[hollow prism]

I just realized once again how dogshit our HS banner is this time

Bede SSWally LOLOLOLOLOL

[paper mist]

Gladion/Sycamore/Penny for Elio...? but then that would leave me with like, Wally/Blue/Palrena for Marlon and Lys/Mina/Vyra for Valerie which would boost Valerie

[paper mist]

was genuinely expecting SSBlue or SSMina to provide tank, Wally felt obvious but not Bede in there

Bede has had so many reruns, it feels like DeNA just really likes him and thinks everyone should have him

they probably realized most players have Blue and didn't want to make Mina too strong for the HSE (tech exr ofc)

[onyx crystal]

Gladion has some issues vsMarlon. Your master passive isn’t mitigating damage, your debuffs aren’t mitigating his offense, and the gauge is -2

[paper mist]

so would the above team be better? and I feel like I should move Volo too

[oak fulcrum]

Elio condition is strike stats down so rip Gladion

Or is Gladion fine with that I forget his passives

[onyx crystal]

Gladion is seemingly pushed for vsMisty, vsValerie, or vsPenny

A lot of this I believe goes back to where your slotting ssMina and ssKris

[onyx crystal]

Possibly. Your Valerie team lacks def buffs

[paper mist]

5/5 Eusine / KriSS / Archie feels like my best team for Misty

[paper mist]

SSMina gives Defense

[onyx crystal]

I think it’s very good. 👍

[onyx crystal]

Oh I was looking at the screenshot

[paper mist]

oh no I replied to the possible new teams

though it feels like a waste to put Volo against Penny but I need offensive debuffs and Confusion on that team, all the others have them in some form

[onyx crystal]

Maybe just submit a new screenshot, cause your text says Gladion on Elio which you can’t do

That I’m tired of scrolling up

[paper mist]

I keep forgetting Elio's parametter

it feels like its directly targeted at Gladion since Elio is Special and Gladion debuffs SpA

[onyx crystal]

Penny, ssWally, Bede can handle that

There’s also Lodge Lillie which some people are considering for Marlon or Elio

[paper mist]

don't have Bede unfortunately, unless Mix decides to be nice to me soon

[main pulsar]

I mean I think that was obvious no?

rain and extension in an over saturated type on a rather obscure person

[candid cobalt]

I've seen a few people say this but is using fairy zone like SS Mina on Valerie really that bad

[main pulsar]

And it isn’t gamebreakingly good

And it isn’t any new role

It could only be high score or lg bait

[paper mist]

they announced the event when Dahlia and Gladion were still running for a reason

we could expect pairs this month to hint at the next types, in which case Ground, Dark, and Steel + another may be likely pushes my Elec+Steel theory

my theory being T-Wave on 3 Steel pairs helps with Paralysis procs + fast Elec but slow Steels + Poppy now, Turo/Elec Miraidon in June

[onyx crystal]

WTZ was used during the water hse, but we utilized interruption so that the enemy sync would be delayed before their sync move could be used under it.

If both the mid and sides use moves of that type then your tank is going to take additional damage at high strength which is why we avoid it or use it where the enemy is using mostly off type moves

Valerie in particular has sides with fairy moves so even if you sleep mid, the sides might attack under zone

[paper mist]

zone-boosted Draining Kiss would be annoying, and all 3 have it

luckily they don't have MH though

[onyx crystal]

Looks like rain was used on Misty and Archie last time

[paper mist]

Misty required it

[onyx crystal]

Okay rain was used in bunch of stages

I need to go find the old infographic

[main pulsar]

back then imp retty sure rain was overused cuz we didnt understand the high score gig much back then

[paper mist]

plus people were willing to take the extra damage if they could clear the stages faster due to more damage

[main pulsar]

exactly

we didnt think ah yes 1k thats the shit

we thought 500 thats the shit

[paper mist]

I'm bad at HSEs so 500 STR is good for me

[main pulsar]

well you know what i mean

we settled for lower strengths because we thought any higher was impossible

but now we know thats how its supposed to feel

we must suffer

[paper mist]

Only teams I can see rn unless I get Bede or Dahlia

[sharp hedge]

he wont

hs hits way harder

[candid cobalt]

Thoughts?

I revamped my teams a lil after getting scared that giving Valerie fairy zone would make my team die faster

[cyan tusk]

I’d swap Nessa with bede

[candid cobalt]

Hmm any reasons why?

I kinda wanna use Bede just for Valerie

Wait lemme send the rest of my fairy and water types

[hardy fog]

More dps I guess

Water rebuff

And fairy zone for bede

It's not like you will use Fire moves on bede anyway

[candid cobalt]

Yeah but the aoe debuffs and max flare are too valuable to pass up imo