High Score

[magic sandal]

like his nuke is actually a meme

[atomic rain]

they said lets balance everything in 2021 then dropped the fucking ball the years after

[sharp hedge]

yeah he only got like shower sync 3?

[atomic rain]

yes

3

[magic sandal]

it's not just 3 it's the SpA

[atomic rain]

off a sub 300 attack stat

[sharp hedge]

[atomic rain]

people shit on anni steven for having a bad sync but he literally has 3x the multipliers and then some

[magic sandal]

i take it back support might be a good cake for him

not because of the sync

but because he's less frail

his sync is still garbo with that cake

[hollow prism]

F I E L D C A K E

[atomic rain]

field cake sucks shit

[hollow prism]

But it would be so fucking funny

[atomic rain]

directly contradicts one of his own tiles

[magic sandal]

support would bring his defences upto 200

which is good for a strike

[sharp hedge]

i feel like for those who doesnt have good sync might as well get support for double sync buff

[magic sandal]

nah

[atomic rain]

does that actually matter when hes still debuffing them by 2 ranks

[magic sandal]

just don't use TM

[atomic rain]

cuz i swear he will explode if he ever gets touched after using tm

[magic sandal]

it's bad yeah

[atomic rain]

goddamnit why did i know you would say that

[sharp hedge]

support sync increased team dps anyway so its good all rounder rolex

[atomic rain]

well i mean

sync with support instead of shitty strike sync

its really the same issue i have with leon’s rolex

except archie has it 5 times worse

cuz at least leon has actually usable attack stats

sub 300 in 2024 with a 2021 grid is just 💀

[magic sandal]

his sync is really funny yeah, bro gets 🦆'd

[atomic rain]

also absolutely guaranteeing that the only reason why they’re rerunning him is for the new hse

MAN HE DOESNT EVEN GET 1M RAW

actually fucked

[magic sandal]

Turtle gaming

like these are the depths you have to go to justify archie sync

[atomic rain]

the fucking

i cant

im so done

why does archie never come up in worst master fair discussions

[hardy fog]

But what if it's an expansion

[atomic rain]

cuz he is absolutely feeling like it at this point

[atomic rain]

they wont do that cuz they’re cowards but thats the only rhing that can save him

[sharp hedge]

well archie did clear anabel with cerena

[atomic rain]

yes yes clearing with the carry unit is such an accomplishment

[magic sandal]

because he was ground it actually saved Maxie's sync so much

[atomic rain]

you could literally bring a sandbag and cerena would still win

[sharp hedge]

he still deals respectable damage though

[hardy fog]

Taiyo I feel so much rage from you talking about Archie but I have a feeling this is coming from a place of passion

[sharp hedge]

3/5

[atomic rain]

so does anni steven

[atomic rain]

eh

sync hell no

[sharp hedge]

well not sync

dps

[atomic rain]

dps not much different unless you on type

which is like the only use hes probably getting atp cuz hes absolute garbage anywhere else

besides like csmm ig

[sharp hedge]

not as much as lyss i believe but still like 2nd or 3rd best for anabel

[magic sandal]

Zoneless Maxie outnukes him

[atomic rain]

not surprising when you have 150 attack over archie

[magic sandal]

yeah

[cunning shore]

Whats Archie Rolex guys

[magic sandal]

the thing that makes it worse is if it's support the Fairy roster also outnukes him

[atomic rain]

hes one of my favorite characters but he got done so badly

[magic sandal]

there are 100% at least 5 supports between fairy and Water that outnuke him

[atomic rain]

all because he sets rain on entry

[cunning shore]

[magic sandal]

Like Water is Known but from Fairy you add Penny too

[atomic rain]

oh

so dark

archie exr is tech

its so over

[magic sandal]

yeah

[hardy fog]

Where does that put him? 😂

[atomic rain]

he doesn’t budge

tech cake is so ass for him

[sharp hedge]

rip

he gets stats at least

[hardy fog]

He is competing with DjGlo. Gladion. Cerena. Eusine. Lyssandre. So don't think he have much of a chance

[sharp hedge]

why hilda gets support instead of tech

oh well

@hardy fog did you see volos moveset

[atomic rain]

what the

is that a mistake

[hardy fog]

O fark they know how to get my money

I'm all about investing

[sharp hedge]

[main pulsar]

Tech

Archie’s dead

Joever

Volo has gible. Ugh

[hardy fog]

Fukkk yea ss red tech 😂

[main pulsar]

I’ll get him next time

Fuckit

Copium primal reversion go brr

If he doesn’t get a massive upgrade that rolex is gonna be worthless on Archie

Shame

No other relevant upgrades

Ssred I wish had support

But eh tech stats

It’s something

[atomic rain]

its gonna be worthless no matter what honestly

[atomic rain]

ss red tech is very good

[main pulsar]

Not really

Actually not at all

I don’t sync with him

[atomic rain]

you have to consider its striker bp with 520 attack and sf8

[sharp hedge]

ss red tech isnt bad if he ever gets another multiplier from horizontal expansion

[atomic rain]

it was already respectable damage before tech elevates it

[main pulsar]

Yeah

[sharp hedge]

which he will probably

[main pulsar]

If he gets horizontal

Then it will be good

Until then

Ignore

[atomic rain]

ss red is probably getting one

he is rerunning this month after all

[main pulsar]

Hm

[sharp hedge]

fire next hs for sure after water/fairy

[atomic rain]

ss may and hilda are way too recent for that

[atomic rain]

its not for hse

probably pasio stadium

but i dont think we had a fire weak one

[sharp hedge]

mhm but giving them all rolex at once

its a preparation

may gets sprint which is really good, ss hilda i guess support is good for her bulk and cant say no for 2 buffs

[sullen pier]

NC Red

[atomic rain]

oh

so it probably is pasio rerun then

[cunning shore]

Damn now I want to cake Lysandre

Why it has to be Sprint (it's good, just too much competition for sprint cake)

[sharp hedge]

does lysandre has any accel

or they just randomly give him sprint

[haughty haven]

Why Volo next month

[atomic rain]

they gave him sprint because they said so

[hardy fog]

Don't know about Emma and Hilda cake ay...

Wth

Lol

[atomic rain]

support is really fine

emma definitely couldve been better off with sprint

but support is fine

[sharp hedge]

i always think support is just good general cake to give

[hardy fog]

Feels like a 'whatever' decision

[sharp hedge]

hilda improves her bulk which is nice

tech wouldve been so much better though

[hardy fog]

Ig tech hilda would make tech ss red look like a dumb move

[atomic rain]

its better than tech on fucking archie

[hardy fog]

OK all 3 are whatever moves 😂

[atomic rain]

its not whatever

its literally just

not helpful

on any significant regard

[sharp hedge]

i hope its a typo hilda gets tech and red gets support

[atomic rain]

not sycamore levels of useless but it literally just exists to exist

[sharp hedge]

[hardy fog]

If ss red tm has attack then it would make him an actual contender in HS

[sharp hedge]

volo only has one sync multiplier its joever

brain sync 5 😭

[cunning shore]

I mean

He's a field

I didn't except him to nuke

[sharp hedge]

field/tech

rolex

he actually have increase sync damage passive like blue

[mortal timber]

Archie just got a pat on his head, a firm shake of hands and 20 spatk more, that's it

The absolute nothingness

[paper mist]

Maxie better also get Tech then to make it fair

[paper mist]

His TM does, yeah

-1 per use so -2 without MPR

[sharp hedge]

ooh i see now

well that makes sense ig

[paper mist]

With 5/5 you’ll be using it anyway for Downside Up

[sharp hedge]

support wouldve been better for his lg solos

[paper mist]

Since he has no speed buffs the stat increase helps just a lil bit too

Would have preferred Support myself

Also rip anyone who wanted to grab Spring Burgh. No rerun this year.

[cunning shore]

Tbh

I don't see how support saves Maxie-ish

[paper mist]

Saves? Lysandre is bad again?

[mortal timber]

Barry fricking alt man

My beloved

My last fav

Missing a proper suit

I am so bug HS ready now

❤️

[cunning shore]

Lysandre Amazing
I am gonna cake him

Maxie feels Utility with extra dmg

So support

I don't wanna sync him still

[hardy fog]

Barry defense though

Ig it's fair. The dmg seems absurd

[sharp hedge]

hes getting field

[frank shore]

Whaaa?? Is this true?

[sharp hedge]

no

tech confirmed

[hardy fog]

Nah bro tech

[mortal timber]

He is getting a hands five

Role cake

[sharp hedge]

pat in the back

[hardy fog]

Man don't really want to pull this month

[mortal timber]

Poor funny whale

[hardy fog]

But barry and selene

[mortal timber]

[frank shore]

Damn sorry. I just saw the datamine. Gg my gems.

Also sorry, i thought its poma question channel

[sharp hedge]

always remember what volo said

this is an investment!

[hardy fog]

Of course surely. I'm getting at least 15% return compound annually on my money

[paper mist]

Volo’s definitely gonna be a top 5 for the hse

[hollow prism]

Barry would be worth pulling if he didn’t look like he was an astronaut straight out of a kids show

Selene is a slightly inferior Steel type SSLyra that has a different set of roles, so Battle Rally goes crazy

I will pull Selene, but that’s probably it this month

[main pulsar]

Some anni Steven vibes ngl

[mortal timber]

So true

[turbid tiger]

togepi is gonna be the bane of HSE RNG fest

[hollow prism]

Yeah i’m not even bothering with him

Mix scout exists

[cyan tusk]

The first 5/5 field pair lmao

[mortal timber]

Juicy 19k gems, who dares gambling for fairy hse early on?

[main pulsar]

Dogshit gem count ngl

Going for geeta

Have a nice day as I lose all chance to win high score

Shame

[turbid tiger]

he's still a fav though, urk

[cyan tusk]

I cannot skip a lodge pair

[mortal timber]

You cannot skip fairy units

[graceful pike]

I cannot skip lodge pairs but

Damn you silver

Took all of my money and he's still not home yet

[mortal timber]

Not even gems, money

Dang

Rough

[forest ferry]

Selene is field unit with extension and it's available at 3/5 itself

it's unfortunate I have to skip jacq and volo

[main pulsar]

I got geeta early

Hm

@mortal timber do you think volo superb amazing outside of high score

[hardy fog]

Skipping 1 unit I'm 50 doesn't count as skipping😂

[main pulsar]

I speen with geeta

I like it

[hardy fog]

Spend? Seen? Speed? Speen?

[main pulsar]

Spin

That’s wild

[hardy fog]

O yea she has an interesting kit

I just 2/5 her and she has so much more to offer

Her cookie is great too

[main pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/kururin-kuru-kuru-herta-herta-sippining-honkai-star-rail-gif-6255874111095877274

Speen

[forest ferry]

Too poor for Geeta

Waiting for pomatools to update so I can see if Selene is rly worth

[mortal timber]

I think he can pull off funny things

[stray dust]

It's alr updated

[main pulsar]

He’s a funni guy?

[forest ferry]

Oh nice

Nvm, I am just gonna roll the triple fire banner till I get 5/5 SSred or ssmay

The grid energy is pain

[hollow prism]

That gem count is absolutely vile btw

I said if we ever drop below 20k i wouldn’t be surprised to see people start leaving

[mortal timber]

I'll use them for my fav

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-barry-barry-pokemon-pokemon-dppt-dppt-gif-27702648

Anyways with volo around for HSE things will shift to greater heights

Defensive circle is gonna be so value

[paper mist]

I'm only getting Volo then skipping til May

don't care for any of the characters, nor mon or kits. and I'm only getting Volo cause I like him

[sharp hedge]

metronome fish

[main pulsar]

so true

[cunning shore]

Fish Metronome

[cunning shore]

Just realized

Volo's Hyperbeam gonna be Fairy type

Shades of Sylveon in Tera Raids

[red owl]

And Giga Impact

[hardy fog]

fark are yall all rolling volo

feeling the peer pressure

a positive one

that makes me want to pull out the 💳

[sharp hedge]

i thought you already did

[cunning shore]

I am skipping this month brother

I hate to skip volo

[sharp hedge]

19k gems this month is pain

[forest ferry]

I wanted to roll Selene but grid and mega not giving atk is

I am still gambling tho, in the triple fire banner

[sharp hedge]

i want my 5/5 copies of hilda and 3/5 red from that banner

[forest ferry]

I want to 5/5 ssmay but I'll stop if I get any 5/5 first

[sharp hedge]

im assuming your 🍰 is ready?

[forest ferry]

Yes

Waiting for the update

hopefully 5/5 ssmay then I can do this grid

3 sync tiles offset the mega tax

[sharp hedge]

whats your may level at

4/5?

[forest ferry]

Yes

[sharp hedge]

so we both just lack one copy but the dif is i dont have support cake ready

[forest ferry]

Exchange 20 coins on April

[sharp hedge]

so much competition for support cake

[cunning shore]

Skipping alll

[cunning shore]

For real?

We getting a whole candy?

[sharp hedge]

i think he meant rally exchange

[cunning shore]

Wha

But that's everything month

[sharp hedge]

cake coins not candy coins

[cunning shore]

Disappointment

No candies

Only cakez

[sharp hedge]

cakes better

[forest ferry]

Cakes are only in massive demand coz it's way too unbalanced towards support

Hopefully they bring other roles as well

Like this month is pretty decent

[haughty haven]

Not Archie

[sharp hedge]

you know i already prepared candies for archie

and i would give priority support rolex if he gets it for water hse

[haughty haven]

Do you still give him Tech candy ?

[sharp hedge]

id rather give it to ss red which i probably wont

[forest ferry]

Archie is unfixable

Just wait for MF 5/5s and 3/5 PB

Legit throw in 2 +20 spl atk tiles and a dps multiplier and he wins

And maybe a full nuke multiplier if they are generous

And he's fixed

[cunning shore]

He needed that Sprint for extra attacking stats

[mortal timber]

He still got stats but you don't wanna sync with him unless shower sync shenanigans

Support would have been better for his dmg

[night sleet]

Nao did not post about volo interesting:)

[main pulsar]

If only

I was begging for it

[night sleet]

I see volo will be gambling on super efective vs mid or sides too

Lol support for archie would be the best

Tech is kinda same like many strike units get tech and tech

[stray dust]

Strike and tech has proven to be a very effective combo tbh unless u are Archie with no nuke tile or innate sync multipliers

[hardy fog]

@sharp hedge when is our darling Dahlia coming

[sharp hedge]

she already did

hopefully for more copies coming

[hardy fog]

[sharp hedge]

irida still dodges my dailies

[hardy fog]

Show me what you are working with so far.

[sharp hedge]

its copium lol i dont stand a chance next hs

ill just take t500

no mina no wally no ss kris

no bede

no gloria

[main pulsar]

No dahlia for me sucks

[hardy fog]

I've got the 2 tanks you got the 2 techs.

[hardy fog]

Dailying?

[main pulsar]

I am f2p my guy

[hardy fog]

I don't know if people categorize $5 bundle as f2p

Respect 🙏 🫡

[sharp hedge]

1/5 tech isnt tech

volo is a big one too for hs

[hardy fog]

Nek minnit they release 2 more hs units

[sturdy matrix]

And pretty low base attack stat

Don't know why they love to give tech Rolex to pitiful nukers

They coul have easily given him support or sprint

[sturdy matrix]

Like when I asked if it was better to wait for Volo on lodge banner or summon on regular and someone answered to wait for select scout

[graceful pike]

i want archie support rolex

boy needs to live longer to cook

[stray dust]

He got tech btw

Archie is no longer cooking

[cunning shore]

He still got some smol bulk

[night sleet]

I already see next hse 10h reset for volo moves and effect off moves🤣 get you 1k str

[haughty haven]

I still think Volo will be use as a debuffer

[night sleet]

Our friends like nao will gamble him

He will be in all top3 1k str

We sure get stage when we can abuse fairy zone and mid be weak for 1 off his moves

Grass electric poison?

One off this can be

[forest ferry]

You'll likely be able to bring zone and rain in all stages

Coz water sync or fairy sync

The dps move is just resetting for low damage one

volo, Mina, Wally, Kris and dahlia will be seperated

Or volo runs with Mina and cerena goes rainless 1000 str

[night sleet]

Hmm srena and mina? Its not like nc rosa stevens over kill

Top should be separeted

[cunning shore]

Dahila gonna take the hse by the storm

[forest ferry]

Well I completely forgot mina's defensive buffs is slow as hell herself

She's definitely going in with volo

I think dahlia will be shoved with Vlyra

And Vlyra will be the one nuking

Coz I can't see Vlyra being ignored in water HS but at the same time Archie being used

Smth like

Vlyra, dahlia, burghpi
Volo, ssmina, lisia
Eusine, dojo, Kriss
Cerena, sycamore , elio
Ssblue, Wally, gladion

As of now.....unless I am forgetting someone notable

[night sleet]

Ss lysandre. Penny

[forest ferry]

Hmmmm oh yea penny.....maybe ssmina can be run with cerena for comfy run

But Mina only buff +4 for team by herself which is kind of worrying

[night sleet]

In rain is 6

[forest ferry]

I mean defenses

[night sleet]

She raise 6 but slow

Each terrain wheater

[forest ferry]

That's why I was thinking volo+Mina would be a thing

[night sleet]

Maybe but im not sure

Since mina rain dance need use

Need water damage dealer whit mina

[forest ferry]

Her being in a dahlia comp sounds like Uber overkill

Coz dahlia herself doesn't need a super high end support coz of evasion hax

[night sleet]

Mina dahlia and ss lysandre

And volo gladion penny

More like

[forest ferry]

mina, dahlia, sslys sounds like a comp that'd be a thing if 1.5k str was a thing

Shit has atk down, aoe protect, evasion hax all crammed in

And still probably pain on gauge

[hardy fog]

How come vlyra with Dahlia. I feel like it's a waste of -sp def

O you are thinking the rain on sync

[atomic rain]

infinite rain and crit immunity

[forest ferry]

You either run Vlyra with dahlia or not run her

She's dead unit without extension

[hardy fog]

Man looking at Lyra's kit. It's look like a top contender

[forest ferry]

Not much options

archie suks

[hardy fog]

2 sync nuke tile. Synchro. -attack

[worldly parcel]

Lyra & Vaporeon

<:GRID_SYNC:967786997982830712> __Sync Tiles:__

(3) Overflowing Curiosity Water Beam: Power +25
(3) Overflowing Curiosity Water Beam: Power +25

<:GRID_MOVE:967786997265629195> __Move Tiles:__

(1) Fake Tears: Move Gauge Refresh 2 - Has a chance (30%) of charging the user's move gauge by one when a move is successful.
(1) Water Gun: Move Gauge Refresh 3 - Has a chance (40%) of charging the user's move gauge by one when a move is successful.

‎

(2) Come Along!: MP Refresh 2 - Has a chance (30%) of restoring one MP of the user's move when that move is successful.
(2) Muddy Water: Move Gauge Refresh 3 - Has a chance (40%) of charging the user's move gauge by one when a move is successful.

<:GRID_PASSIVE:967786997215264808> __Passive Tiles:__

(1) Stalwart - Sp. Def cannot be lowered.

‎

(2) Brainteaser - The more the target's Sp. Def is lowered, the more it powers up the user's moves.
(2) Raging Rain 5 - Powers up the user's moves when the weather is rainy.
(2) Refreshing Rain 1 - Restores the user's HP whenever its Pokémon takes an action while the weather is rainy.
(2) Sync Cure - Removes all status conditions from the user after using its sync move.
(2) Team Focus Rush 1 - Raises the critical-hit rate of all allied sync pairs by 1 stat rank after using the user's sync move.
(2) Torrential Tenacity - Prevents the user from flinching, becoming confused, or becoming trapped when the weather is rainy.

‎

(3) Adrenaline 1 - Reduces the sync move countdown by 1 the first time the user's sync move is used each battle.
(3) Blunting Strike 9 - Lowers the target's Attack by 1 stat rank when the user's Pokémon uses a move targeting that opponent. Lowers the target's Attack by 1 stat rank after using the user's sync move targeting that opponent.
(3) Brainpower - The more the user's Sp. Atk is raised, the more it powers up the user's sync move.
(3) Racing Rain 3 - Quickly charges the move gauge when the weather is rainy.
(3) Rain Gear 3 - Reduces damage when the user is hit by an attack move while the weather is rainy.
(3) Rejuvenate 6 - Charges the user's move gauge by 6 after using a sync move.
(3) Smarty-Pants - The more the target's Sp. Def is lowered, the more it powers up the user's sync move.
(3) Synchro Healing 1 - Restores the HP of all allied sync pairs by approximately 20% of their maximum HP after using the user's sync move.

[hardy fog]

I can see the extension making her a favorite

Plus she has aoe lol

[forest ferry]

She has muddy water

[atomic rain]

mfw she misses

[forest ferry]

Means evasion hax

Iirc dahlia also has d9 and muddy water

[hardy fog]

Support rolex incoming as well

[forest ferry]

So the team isn't getting hit at all except for few strays

[hardy fog]

To match the other eevee lol

[atomic rain]

and she has teeter dance for sides

[forest ferry]

The eevees were pretty overtuned units

They just suk on release coz we didn't have much field extension options

And no tech ex

I rly like how volo actually makes running 2nd fairy team viable

[hardy fog]

I've got my 5 center dps already though lol don't want to get swayed into getting another unit.

Gladion
Lyssa
Djglo
Eusine
Cerena

[forest ferry]

Eusine still gonna need another tech nuker

I think if you don't have dahlia, Archie + Vlyra is pretty good

[hardy fog]

I don't want to mix Lyra 😫

If she rerun in a triple maybe I'll consider

[forest ferry]

I thought you had em all

[hardy fog]

Nah I don't got dahlia and Lyra

That's Pykuo bro

He pulled all the eeveelutions

[forest ferry]

My water and fairy is pretty bricked

[magic sandal]

I have all but Selene

[forest ferry]

I have good units
But like shit comps

Coz I am missing like 1 important per team atleast

[hardy fog]

Mate when you compare your roster to a p2p roster all type is brick hahaha

[magic sandal]

Everyone hated them cause variety debut, they turned out to be the best ones

[forest ferry]

Wdym
My electric was pretty good when ehs happened

Was only missing NCblue for important one

[hardy fog]

Not top 100 good 🥹

[forest ferry]

Top 100 was gated by NCblue so yea

[magic sandal]

Nah it was more Rats

[forest ferry]

I had rats

Still couldn't cut

It was just blue

[atomic rain]

do i have a chance at top 1k

[forest ferry]

Even 3/5 sshau was available

[hardy fog]

I only needed 3/5 clemont for top 100 that time haha I used 1/5...

[magic sandal]

If you swapped positions and traded blue for rats you’d be even lower

[atomic rain]

i feel like my water roster is ok

[forest ferry]

True

[magic sandal]

So that tells you everything imo

[forest ferry]

Not having rats is even worse

[magic sandal]

The only good thing about this HS for me is i invested into my water roster for water HS

So I can just run it back

[forest ferry]

fire still remains my worst hs experience

[atomic rain]

wait

[magic sandal]

My fairy is terrible

[atomic rain]

penny diantha ss gladion

nah im stupid thats just cooked gauge

[atomic rain]

do i even have a chance for 1k

[magic sandal]

Will be fun seeing how far I can take this

[forest ferry]

My limited options look like this

Atleast still better than fire

Also ladaman

[atomic rain]

better than mine

[forest ferry]

Aren't you an Archie fan?

[forest ferry]

How do you not have a busted water roster?

Bro says mine is better with gladion and kriss

Oh wait

[magic sandal]

I mean tbf you have Cerena Mina

[atomic rain]

1/5 aint doing shit lmfao

[forest ferry]

Move level

[magic sandal]

LySS too

[forest ferry]

Yea, just noticed

[atomic rain]

also cerena is also just free win tm

[magic sandal]

Mine is this + VLyra

[forest ferry]

So many 1/5 units

[magic sandal]

I’ll make it work

[atomic rain]

1/5 diantha aint gonna wirk

[magic sandal]

She’s just on the bench

[forest ferry]

As long as I break t200 I am happy

[atomic rain]

true

[forest ferry]

Diantha hits fairly hard

[atomic rain]

im wondering if ss glad diantha penny could work

[magic sandal]

I’m just going for highest score and vibes

[forest ferry]

Shit gauge

[atomic rain]

but that just sounds like gauge hell

[magic sandal]

Lemme fall where i fall

[atomic rain]

yeah

[forest ferry]

Gauge problem is the biggest reason why I am predicting penny wouldn't see much usage in top comps

[atomic rain]

cuz she does nothing for it and gladion/diantha have shit gauge?

[forest ferry]

She gives rebuff

[atomic rain]

well i mean gauge management

she doesnt do anything

[forest ferry]

Ye

Like besides gladion
Only other good fairy dps is lisia

But I can see palrena + penny be a thing

If they gimp water somehow

Since palrena is the only fairy dps that doesn't demand gauge from support

But well
Water is bloated so

[hardy fog]

Give eusine tech rolex

[atomic rain]

no

[forest ferry]

There's also possibility for volo to run with penny

[hardy fog]

Problem solved

[forest ferry]

Coz volo has metronome and gives 1 bar after using it

And his bmove likely has stupid long enuff animation to gen gauge well

Water is so bloated to the point I can't even see lyss getting a team unless water hogs in 4 teams and fairy only get 1 team

But it's gonna be 3 water, 2 fairy most likely

so it's dahlia core, cerena core, Kriss core, sswally core and volo core most likely

[cyan tusk]

Dojoglo has huge problems with sides btw

[hardy fog]

So did Lucian but we made it

[forest ferry]

Just run dojo with eusine

Man has disarm and extend range

And contributes to MP from kriss

[hardy fog]

So who else have attack Debuff a this hs?

[forest ferry]

Lot of em have debuffs

Lysandre debuff only atk

Volo debuff both but you'll probs only be able to pick one due to grid

Penny debuff spl atk

Vlyra debuff atk, gladion spl atk
Sswally,cerena is obvi

Atleast for notable offensive debuffs

lodge Lillie also debuff atk

[main pulsar]

Vlyra sounds huge with extension

@hardy fog remember the ncblue team for electric

Vkris now vlyra

Fire couldn’t do it cuz they have shit defensive supports

But water should be able to

[forest ferry]

Fire only couldn't run Vlucas as efficiently coz sun extension is just rare

The only option that had it was a solo carry unit like cerena

But well, he still saw usage coz atk down from heatwave was still pretty big.....just not good to sync

[hardy fog]

I don’t because I was using hau for my run 😂

[main pulsar]

Understandable

[paper mist]

no ssmina, ss wally, no burgh, no volo, no ncerena, no lyss, no eusine. gonna be rough.

wonder if top 1k will be rough for me without ncerena and dahlia

Volo will be 3/5 when I get a few more field coins

[hardy fog]

Imo 1k is doable with just 1 limited per team. It's more about whether you are willing to put up with the rng. Which in most cases historically speaking, people don't lack the units, they lack the patience 😂

[paper mist]

thats me unfortunately

i also just dont have the luck for rng either

[sharp hedge]

and candies and cakes

[hollow prism]

It makes it much easier if you use multiples though

And the quality of units that have to be on that team to carry 2 gen pools to 1k has to be INSANE. Like we’re talking NCLeaf and Adaman having INSANELY difficult clears and fully maxed out everything to barely reach 1k

That NCLeaf stage sucked

[hardy fog]

Candies yes if we are talking about 5 limited units only. Also we talking 1k... like 260k ish which is very much doable

[sharp hedge]

oh wait

i thought you mean 1k str

[hardy fog]

Hahaha

[sharp hedge]

but still tech and support move level matter the most for higher str

[haughty haven]

[hollow prism]

I’m so happy that we got the shit water type MF rerun instead of the good water type MF rerun guys

[sharp hedge]

hey archie is decent

[haughty haven]

[hollow prism]

[sharp hedge]

he was once good

[main pulsar]

om nom nom

[hollow prism]

Even when I got him at the start of my account he was pain

[haughty haven]

If he had Sup cake, that would so much better

[main pulsar]

dong get me started

[sharp hedge]

ikr

[main pulsar]

i begged for it not one week before we got the news

like for FEEEEECKS SAKE DO YOU PLAY YOUR OWN GAME

[sharp hedge]

watch they add primals and horizontal expansion, brain sync 9, tm downside up, shower sync 5

[main pulsar]

i will get

on my hands and knees

PLEASE DENA

I WILL DO ANYTHING

[hardy fog]

If they gave him supp cake stock price for Dahlia goes down

[main pulsar]

not nevessarily

[hardy fog]

Def not good business move

[main pulsar]

you get 2 extendos instead of just one

[hollow prism]

Not even support could save archie

[haughty haven]

They can give him Sprint

[main pulsar]

that puts them both in high demand

[hollow prism]

But Tech is just death

[main pulsar]

sprint is also shit

[haughty haven]

Way better than fk Tech

[main pulsar]

youre still forced to use a shit sync

its bad no matter what

[sharp hedge]

[main pulsar]

better support

[hollow prism]

If support wasn’t it then Field was a good one

[hardy fog]

Support gives him more bulk and a good portion of the market will just use him as dahlia alternative

[main pulsar]

well ur not wrong but htey dont need to know that

[hardy fog]

They know son

[main pulsar]

[sharp hedge]

field wont work because of that one tile

[hardy fog]

Dena is multi hundred million dollar

[sharp hedge]

rain refresh something

[hardy fog]

They make moves base on supply and demand not what makes us happy 😂

[sharp hedge]

tbf volo feels like hes built for hs more than dahlia

dahlia is still in a good spot for water offensive comp

[main pulsar]

he categorically is

look at not super effective up

[atomic rain]

if he got support it would be worth using

cuz shower sync + supp buff

is like a triple sync buff for water basically

but the damage itself is horrendous

[hardy fog]

Pretty much a tech support with aoe. It's not bad lol

Slap MG2 on it

[main pulsar]

pain

[atomic rain]

non super effective archie sync gets beat by marlon and psyduck

unbelievably garbage

[haughty haven]

Yeah, he has random debuff, not SE title, random field effect, random move

A lot of Rng in a game mode that has a lot of Rng too

[sharp hedge]

fishing for reflect/light screen field effect

[paper mist]

would primal theoretically make tech useful

since mega evolving gives you the stats and passives before the sync

[sharp hedge]

well at least you have a reason to sync if primal works similar to other transforming mechanics

[main pulsar]

If primal makes one of his passives actually good yeah

He needs a lot more than just stats

Even if that would help a lot

[atomic rain]

his passives are fine

the stats are the issue

cuz maxie literally has his passives but sun and hes fine

almost like its cuz 1.5x the attacking stats

[sharp hedge]

maxie was balanced around prezone era so they make his stats higher

[hollow prism]

Maxie I have to pull because MF

And him rerunning next month is why i’m skipping this month

[sharp hedge]

for sure maxie is highly likely rerunning next month

and giving 3 fire pokefairs their cake makes me think if theyll do fire/ground for upcoming hse

[hardy fog]

Farrrrk really fire ground

[sharp hedge]

weather clash though so probably not

but sandstorm isnt really specific to ground so its possible

[paper mist]

Maxie is rerunning after Archie because they Cannot Be Separated

[main pulsar]

even if they powerboost archie next month

will it even in time

for high score

so no matter what its pure ass

IM SCREAMING

LJDFISDJOIOSDJF

[cunning shore]

Archie gon be used

[paper mist]

if its part of the next update (since maxie's would be added too) it would be in time, i don't see them waiting til archie's last day to add it

[hardy fog]

well Im going to cope with mine for sure 😂

he was my first daily

[main pulsar]

archie with no powerboost

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/862519030829023242.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

please dena dont do this to me

im begin

[sharp hedge]

tbf hes still the top 3 picks for water striker so hes probably used this time since you can make a 1-2 overkill comps

we dunno the rules and theme skills for the new hs so we’ll see until then

[atomic rain]

its not like theres much competition for strike cuz every new water unit is tech now

[forest ferry]

I love how the quality drops so hard

Like eusine and lyss are like top strikers and then it gets to Archie

[sharp hedge]

eusine and archie damage seems not much dif

its lyss thats league ahead

eusine does have more tools for hs

[forest ferry]

Eusine has way better quality in his kit
Sync Accel, RS9, disarm

And eusine being extend range also in practice he deals lot higher in smth as bulky as high str hs

[sharp hedge]

eusine has accels?

might miss that

[forest ferry]

TM has 1 stage

[sharp hedge]

i see

[cyan tusk]

I might be 5/5 my eusine too bc is smth I’ve always wanted to do

[night sleet]

No 5/5 already bicio need start cooking🤣 did you get volo?

[cyan tusk]

Nope got shafted

[night sleet]

I got bad pull on volo too he got 1 place after grusha🤣. But was lucky realy long time. So it was expect it end on some banner🥲

But nao prob got shaft too he have volo 1/5

[onyx crystal]

You’re banned from talking about my Bro.

Are you even allowed as a Taiyo to dunk on him?

[hollow prism]

Nah bro he’s based, Kyogre sync being beat by fucking Marlon Carracosta and Misty Psyduck is the funniest shit on the planet

[paper mist]

When it comes to faves we’re the most qualified to dunk on them, out of love

Anyway I’ve got very little hope DeNA will do the right thing and give him primal with a big stat boost

[atomic rain]

its upsetting cuz i have him 3/5 and he legitimately doesnt have a niche anymore

[paper mist]

His niche is standing there and looking handsome

[forest ferry]

His niche is to be a rain extender when you don't have dahlia

[frank shore]

So… is archie worth it?

[forest ferry]

still better than Maxie who has no real usage unless you lack like 3 ground dps options

Dunno
Wait for the mode to start

[frank shore]

F. I love Groudon more than Kyogre

[forest ferry]

Well groudon kit quality is better

It's just there's better options for what he provides

Kyogre's only real competition is pretty much just dahlia......well eusine as well who's much better dps but eusine doesn't have rain so the niche is still there

[atomic rain]

hes better as a unit dps wise which is really what matters when you consider how old they are

[forest ferry]

Doesn't matter in duo hs when there's 3 whole units that beat his niche

Like, if you don't have dahlia
Archie is like the only other way to hit high str run consistently with Vlyra

while Maxie has to compete with 3 high dpses to get a slot to do same shit

[hardy fog]

Are you happy about the sprint rolex on ss may @forest ferry

[forest ferry]

May is a special case......what Rolex would you even give her

Support maybe....but uh yea I rarely get to sync with her in fire comps so getting higher base atk is nicer ig

It's better fate than Archie so still a W

[cyan tusk]

And she’s the only tech+sprint with archer

And she’s quite powerful so ig I’ll Rolex her

[night sleet]

We get 6 old units for rolex this update. Alot

[tidal pine]

3 of them are coincidentally all 3 PF's I've 5/5 😂

[atomic rain]

sprint ex is good for her

cuz shes got good accel on her base kit

[tidal pine]

Sprint EX honestly feels right on SS May

[atomic rain]

because it is

strike is meme cuz st debuff

support is like ok but not the best

field is why

[tidal pine]

Her kit feels pretty Sprint in nature

[atomic rain]

because it is

[main pulsar]

Shockingly

A lot of old techs feel like sprints

[atomic rain]

eh

its only really lear

[main pulsar]

Kek

I’d say sselesa would’ve been sprint in another life

[turbid tiger]

Introducing ss silver

And ss may

Who is getting sprint this month

[main pulsar]

Oh yeah silver is pretty sprinty imo

[paper mist]

Lysandre is getting Sprint too, which is alright

it makes sense with his TM already doing -1, but I would have preferred Support. Better than Tech though.

[main pulsar]

I’m talking about which techs were sprints all along

[paper mist]

many of them

[hollow prism]

Honestly this isn’t even THAT true, our Ground units all suck

The only genuinely good ground unit is SCAdaman, and he relies on being burned which i personally think is the shittiest gimmick of all time

Maxie’s def better because he’s in a type that sucks, Archie is just bad in a type that EVERYONE has something for

Like you could use May and Kris and be doing just fine

And if you have ANY of the exclusives forget about it.

[paper mist]

Most of Ground's good options are limited meanwhile Archie's got some very good competition in one of the biggest pools in the game (water) and gen pool has good water options (and cyrus even, though not for a HSE)

[cyan tusk]

I have to disagree, VGio is a really solid unit bc the nuke is alright with 2 full multipliers easy to setup and his B Move has tons of multipliers

[paper mist]

plus some utility since he provides both sand and ground zone if you wanna run double damage dealers, and can enable hunter's instinct or cakewalk on another

[hollow prism]

Variety unit tho

🤢

[paper mist]

[atomic rain]

well thats not exactly old

[atomic rain]

the issue isnt even that water is bloated its that he has actual competition which outshines him for any utility he possibly has

[sharp hedge]

that burn barely does any damage if you can get lessen burn 9

also keep in mind that his kit is balanced around lucys ub

[onyx crystal]

wasn't there a doc where someone was assigning points to specific utility? I'm wondering if something like that would be helpful for the current sheet.

[main pulsar]

the high score sheet or the ultimate battle sheet

[haughty haven]

This one ? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b2f8kWjYE0J4gzuVyr7tuybUF4n1jjT2HoeK3jsJQjQ/htmlview#gid=1541075269

[onyx crystal]

yea

[main pulsar]

i dont think this really helps cuz its like

really fat

cuz if ur one of the GRINDers

youre gonna be looking at the teams

but if ur someone whos like oineed more point or my teams dont fit

that document is pree overwhelming imo

also rosa bulk being less than bede is untrue kek

POTION BABY

[onyx crystal]

well what convinced me was how much work this looks like

[sharp hedge]

bulk only counts raw stats i think

potion is healing tools

[main pulsar]

even in terms of raw stats when you consider how bulky lussamine is with her cakeru shes actually probably higher than most supports

[sharp hedge]

she is indeed bulky

[main pulsar]

and if youre saying raw stats seteven is not an entire tier higher than the other supports

hes like barely tankier at most i think

i am one of the few people who used deod so i can say this

[forest ferry]

Uhhh fallroxanne, Vgio, ssgio
All better than Maxie

Especially in HS scenario

Scadaman being burned doesn't even affect the dps

also Archie still has rain extension which is useful if you are bringing in Vlyra

[sullen pier]

Burning Dance:

[forest ferry]

And his only competition being an obvi HS bait new unit like Hycamore which most people don't even probably roll for

While sun extension is only useful if they pair ground with fire....even then chances are you are just going to use fire units with other fire units

Just due to how stupid fire dps output is compared to Maxie

[main pulsar]

also maxie is slow

[hardy fog]

Stop selling VLyra daily gentlemen. Might not be able to help myself 😂

[forest ferry]

but atk down, accuracy down, big nuke and infi rain

[hardy fog]

What level is yours

[main pulsar]

1

shes my freebie from the tick

thought id never get any use from it ever

but then water fairy rolls around

[forest ferry]

I don't even have Vlyra

I am just selling her coz I know how stupid eevees are

Only mid eevee performance is vlucas and you can't even blame him
Coz fire's only extension access is NCleaf who does the job better herself

[hardy fog]

Fark so you are just in here selling yourself all day

Then complain when Hs comes 😂

[main pulsar]

my problem is

i dont know if shes amazing with archie

they dont really synergize

and if ARCHIE GOT SUPPORT DAKE{FSE

well he'd at least go long fight

but ALAS THEY FUCKIN HATE HIM

(im very sad)

[hardy fog]

But it’s not too late to go mix banner gents

💳

[forest ferry]

Me complaining is entirely different matter

Coz my account is bricked due to no money anyways

[atomic rain]

realistically speaking nc leaf is just vlucas on steroids

he also has team solar immunity

[hardy fog]

I feel ya bro haha I felt the same when they did the expansion for ss red. He was still a sub for Hilda and Silver in fire Hs, 2 f2p pairs

[forest ferry]

he would have still been used in another team if there was an extension bot

also red's case is entirely different

The only stage that favored his gameplay was hurling out a rock type sync

coz man wants sun to nuke

and other stage where he could be used was tech locked

If Flannery stage wasn't a sync damage down and a ground sync or smth, silver would have been benched completely

They favored silver and NCleaf so hard that HS and threw SSred under the bus

atleast it tells enuff to better wait for stages to actually happen and most pre hs discussion is still speculation

[cunning shore]

y'all used red?

[forest ferry]

I used SSTred in fire hs

[paper mist]

ssred will see use in the fire + fighting hse watch

[haughty haven]

[maiden canopy]

So what are the top units for the next HS?

[main pulsar]

Gladion Mina cerena dahlia lyssandre

What else would you like

Ss Wally and volo undoubtedly gonna be good too

I think we’ll have a sustain comp with vlyra as well

[maiden canopy]

I'm kinda waiting for electric HS

[main pulsar]

Interesting topic switch

[maiden canopy]

Not really

[haughty haven]

I’ll sleep at Electric HS

[main pulsar]

Waddya mean it was so sudden

Wots gud for water fairy

When electric rerun

[maiden canopy]

[maiden canopy]

Where will this land me?

[haughty haven]

No SS Blue ?

[maiden canopy]

Yes

Also my Hilbert is still 2/5

[haughty haven]

My Roster

I probably candy SS Mina and SS Gladion

[mortal timber]

Did you start rolling double type gears Mr Pykuo lmfao

I am not looking forward to it if necessary

[haughty haven]

Not good for me rn

I still dont want to use Pin

I want to save it for Spheal

[haughty haven]

[maiden canopy]

Pykuo will use Ever Pin when Spheal comes

https://tenor.com/view/spheal-pokemon-clapping-gif-25991342

Ice type Spheal for ice HS

[main pulsar]

Death

[haughty haven]

Rollout and Ice Ball

[maiden canopy]

What if Ice Spinner?

[main pulsar]

So cute

[main pulsar]

It gets rid of Terri’s. I think

Trrrain

[maiden canopy]

NVM, Spheal line can't learn Ice Spinner

[haughty haven]

[maiden canopy]

Also did you see the video of a level 1 Spheal soloing Red in HGSS?

[haughty haven]

Ofc yes

[maiden canopy]

I bet that's in your downloads

[haughty haven]

Red should choose hotter place

[mortal timber]

[maiden canopy]

I got a skill bandana with 80 Sp. Atk. with Fairy/Rival/Heonn themes, so funny

Too bad the additional effects are ass

[turbid tiger]

story of gear fishing smh

i have a paldea poison gear...80 sp atk. Haha, no atk boost for Geeta ig

[crimson python]

today hs?

[candid cobalt]

It’s next month I’m pretty sure

[paper mist]

Yeah it’s every other month and swaps with Gauntlet

[mortal timber]

No eh, no more HS for now, lemme recover 😂

[maiden canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/spheal-he-agree-nodding-pokemon-legends-arceus-gif-24844405

[mortal timber]

exactly this, peace for a bit please haha

[atomic rain]

https://tenor.com/view/tess-spheal-gif-22641311

[mortal timber]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-raichu-cute-color-yellow-gif-17858273

[cyan tusk]

My penny is ready to abuse this random gear lmao

[graceful pike]

3/5 grid is pretty for penny

Hope she gets lots of action this h.s

[hollow prism]

I got CElesa in a daily

Looking like Electric HS is more viable for me now

I had a goal in the back of my mind of possibly trying to snag a top spot without Ash in the next Electric HS, and with a second type it might actually be doable if my other type is insane

[cyan tusk]

Best part of getting dahila from a daily is not the 2/5, but the 4 cake coin for Penny’s ex role

[hardy fog]

Comoooon you got daily dahlia as well

[stray dust]

Bruh

[arctic quest]

Y'all please keep the gacha screenshots to #gacha-and-flex

[hardy fog]

But but only ss get scould and not the people talking about their pulls? 🥹

[arctic quest]

We don't want to restrict general conversation as long as it somehow relates back to the thread topic, but gacha screenshots are a definite no.

[crimson python]

lmao same

at the very final day

[hardy fog]

Sadge mine cost too much.

[cyan tusk]

Sorry, I didn’t mean to start anything wrong, just wanted to point out that next hse will come for all your striker cakes

And we still have to enter the hse datamine even if I feel volo and Archie won’t be making the difference (Rolex wise)

[forest ferry]

Volo worth gambaing?

Coz he leaves before datamine

[hardy fog]

imo bro - no

just sounds like a below average unit outside of HS

[forest ferry]

Is he good for HS tho?

Coz stat down look good but no nuke or dps is sus

[hardy fog]

the stats down have been crucial for the extra 10-20K every HS

[haughty haven]

He will be good right ?

[hardy fog]

but dont know ay... I rather gamble on the beetle

[forest ferry]

Bug actually has wide roster for dps

[cyan tusk]

Im struggling to get him bc im broke and shafted but it’s only bc it’s 2 unit for 1, lodge wise

But I don’t think he’s going to be that relevant in hse, only debuff gaming, but we have plenty of options this time.

Also you should waste a nuke with him to set fairy zone, so..

[forest ferry]

yea which is why I am sus on him

[cyan tusk]

Imo dahila has more value bc of sure debuffs/AoE rebuff/Dyna and nuke

[haughty haven]

I dont think just debuff, he have a lot of field, Circle, PMUN and SMUN

[forest ferry]

I'd roll dahlia but she'll be stuck at 1/5 hell and she leaves tdy

His field ruins quad if anything

[hardy fog]

yea I actually gambled for Dahlia

[forest ferry]

Coz it's gamba

[hardy fog]

hahah but I aint gambling for Volo

[forest ferry]

He doesn't have enuff Accel to justify gamba fields

[haughty haven]

Funny that his Animation is too damn long, and that make the field run out before Sync

[forest ferry]

but it let you tank high str sync

I'm more worried coz penny look like gauge suffering for a second fairy comp

[hardy fog]

you gotta see this #gacha-and-flex message

[sharp hedge]

he will

[cyan tusk]

How dare you tryna convince me to put my hands on the wallet once I’m saving

[sharp hedge]

defensive circle is easy survive 1k str

🥚

[forest ferry]

Smh

[haughty haven]

But bc i hope he good

[hardy fog]

did we mention he is a 2 for 1 deal?

you get to expand your LG roster

and that debuff.... looking like a top 20 must

[cyan tusk]

I already mentioned it lmao

[hardy fog]

so you are selling yourself?

good

[cyan tusk]

Still I gave up on owning all units, don’t have tierno and I’m likely not getting jacq from daily so yes I’ll be getting volo

[haughty haven]

I have this two too

[sharp hedge]

[haughty haven]

Must pick Mina from Mix

[forest ferry]

wait
Am I the only one without dahlia

[hardy fog]

Mina is such a cool unit I enjoy using her

[sharp hedge]

i enjoy using my 0/5 mina

[forest ferry]

Should I just gamba

[haughty haven]

Daily power

[sharp hedge]

[haughty haven]

💳

[forest ferry]

Lemme check at her 1/5 kit for a sec

[haughty haven]

No

Dont

You will disappoint her

[sharp hedge]

1/5 is good enough

you get debuff rebuff and rain no ext

[cyan tusk]

3/5 and Rolex has AoE tech nuke easy to setup

me praying for SSLys rolex next month

[forest ferry]

Yea 1/5 look shit

[hardy fog]

dont bro

1/5 is no point

[forest ferry]

No extension, no multipliers, not even MW oar

[hardy fog]

the only reason I pull is 1 tile

lol

[forest ferry]

I thought MW oar was 1/5

[sharp hedge]

no multiplier is every tech ever

[forest ferry]

Nah I remember some good techs at 1/5

This one is just bottom of the barrel

[sharp hedge]

shes still the better 1/5 tech unit imo

[hardy fog]

Blaze - you are the only person I would tell to save

on the other hand

@sharp hedge bro dont spend your candy, pull another 2 copies