High Score

[shy flower]

I use Dawn and Shauna too

[magic sandal]

Dawn's isn't a meme it's legit

[shy flower]

True

I'm excited for if they ever give her a rolex

[magic sandal]

i want speed buffs

[shy flower]

To the surprise of no one I'm excited for Dawn buffs

[magic sandal]

if she can get speed buffs she can solo like 5 more LGs

[main pulsar]

Noooooo really

[main pulsar]

Lg moment

[shy flower]

TSE 2?

Speedy or Sharp ig

[magic sandal]

her big issue is you need basically 2 LS slots to do any more solos

[main pulsar]

Sharp would be better for actual unit

Speed would be better for the lg people

[shy flower]

Fuck it, give her both

[main pulsar]

True

[shy flower]

Team Lucky Entry 3

[magic sandal]

speed buffs also fit her kit

[main pulsar]

I believe in you Dena

[main pulsar]

[magic sandal]

the only Rosa to not buff speed is base

[main pulsar]

Yeah speed buffs have evolved to be her thing so

[magic sandal]

actually lodge might not

but every Rosa has some gauge element

[main pulsar]

Her giving speed would actually make sense

[shy flower]

Just chekced, Lodge does not buff speed, but she does have MGA

[magic sandal]

Lodge and Holiday have MGA, Holiday and NC have speed buffs, Base and NC has raw gauge

yeah

[shy flower]

inb4 they give Base Rosa Downside Up

[main pulsar]

That would be so random

But I’m sure you lg people can make that work somehow

[shy flower]

It'd be bc Serperior has Contrary

[main pulsar]

Ohhh

No leaf storm so we’re just sad

And no shush her sync doesn’t count

[shy flower]

Ez PB idea: give her Draining Leaf Storm

It's Leaf Storm + Giga Drain

Ez

[main pulsar]

Draining what now

[shy flower]

Listen

[main pulsar]

also why does ur pfpf sometimes dawn but sometimes this genshin child

[shy flower]

Discord wackiness

It's Dawn in this server, but Klee normally

[main pulsar]

Nitro things

[shy flower]

Is that a nitro thing?

[main pulsar]

I don’t think I can set my pfp

In servers only

[shy flower]

[arctic quest]

Different pfps for servers? Yeah

[shy flower]

The more you know

[main pulsar]

Poor people moment

[hardy fog]

Looking like top 20 cut off will be 500k this HS

[main pulsar]

penseeve

[chilly flame]

I can feel the power coursing through me

[hardy fog]

Legggo 500k incoming

[lean cove]

is setting sun required for every battle, or is the score hit not that bad?

[magic sandal]

Depends on how you’re doing it

If it’s bringing a fire type in, unless it’s NC Leaf yes

If it’s trying to make a grass type fit go for it

[lean cove]

Who sets sun? Erika/Lefeon and Lyra/Meganium. Who else? On type?

[magic sandal]

Adaman and SS Ace

[magic sandal]

Also even Leaf is being transitioned out of teams so this is a maybe depending on how high you’re aiming for

[lean cove]

I have Adaman. So I guess I'm only getting sun on 3 teams

[hollow prism]

Unless you offtype

Which is a decent idea depending on the best unit you have that sets sun

If it’s NC Leaf or SS Morty specifically

[forest ferry]

SSmorty is not that good

Pretty much NCleaf or bust

Grass has strong enuff defensive presence for 5 supports, you are often walled by lack of tech nukes at higher strength

[lean cove]

Alright, here's what I ended with. Basically just did a flat +200 strength for all of them. Anything I can do to improve?

[cyan tusk]

Levelling up to +140 all
Check lucky skills if they’re correct
Ex mix red
Raise leafeon to 4*

Swap Lyra and Erika vileplime

[lean cove]

I see. I can try to revisit these with those suggestions

[hardy fog]

BTW Dabs how did Selene survive earthquake at that str? Did you get confusion proc on earthquake?

[mortal timber]

Selene naturally survives eq if trevenant is debuffed

[hardy fog]

I see!

[hardy fog]

Anyone got 80k on Erika using F2P?

Doesn't look like it's possible..

[forest ferry]

I'd be surprised if there's a F2P comp that hits 80k in any stage

[hardy fog]

Haha.. ig

I'm just thinking if some how I can rearrange for 85k 85k 95k 120k 115k

Maybe too ambitious

[forest ferry]

My only full F2P comp is like 66k pts
So even 70k would be miracle ig
or just run sserika, dawn, mallow vs gardenia

[forest ferry]

Maybe get hycamore to 2/5

oh yea
Also 1/5 Lyra is big oof

[hardy fog]

I wonder if I can do like 950 Erika with Shauna 😂

Actually if I get Sycamore 2/5 I wonder if I can 650 Ramos

[forest ferry]

Or just cave in and roll grass PF banner for Lyra dupes

[hardy fog]

Lols

[mortal timber]

115k on Cilan isn't ambitious, it's totally doable

Always me after 3 hours + of resets straight

[hardy fog]

I have Mallow not ss Erika though 😂

[haughty haven]

SS Erika is huge for dmg

Mallow mainly for survival

Congrats for 400k

[sullen pier]

[haughty haven]

I want to see that run

[mortal timber]

Thank you dear ❤️

[mortal timber]

Too lucky to repeat it

Bullet seed only and twice hitting two hits

The chances of it man

I just hope with the Sus teams I prepared this is enough to stay

[hardy fog]

Yea I would have love to see it too!

[mortal timber]

I may reset it again and record it I dunno

[hardy fog]

Haha nah don't bro

[mortal timber]

Lemme know

Eh hahaha

[haughty haven]

I’m trying that thing rn

[hardy fog]

I have seen too many variations already I know what you got

[haughty haven]

What is your gear look like @mortal timber ?

[hardy fog]

Because I'm running Mallow. I reset for adaman TM and flinch.

[mortal timber]

Lemme open the game

[hardy fog]

Which is a pain

Tm 1/1 mpr is always pain

[haughty haven]

This is my gear rn

[hardy fog]

Gosu bandana

[haughty haven]

That Bandanna looking good

[hardy fog]

50 def is not bad at all!

[mortal timber]

Bracelet has also the fighting damage reduction for gardenia

[hardy fog]

I think I'll settle for 465k unless mix red comes

If he comes I'll aim for 480k

I'm quite impressed with that Mallow run though lol. That was my initial team

[mortal timber]

Which one, mine?

[hardy fog]

Yea

I thought earthquake would kill everything at that str

[mortal timber]

It doesn't

Everyone lives sync + eq

Not scary

The scary part is after trevenant is dead

Confusion prayge simulator

[hardy fog]

Yea in the end I move ss leaf to that team

[mortal timber]

The gardenia clear is the absolute abomination

[hardy fog]

Now where I'm stuck is doing enough dmg before 2nd sync

[mortal timber]

The gauge there doesn't exist

Dmg boh, who saw it?

Despite all of this

Here I am

[hardy fog]

Yea that's rough 1/5 ss lyra 2/5 ss leaf for 68k 😂

[mortal timber]

Forbidden strategies

[hardy fog]

Def no dmg

Haha

[mortal timber]

I could probably reach 70k points with that ngl

But I won't for now

Imma rest

Not touching it till I feel I need to save my spot

[hardy fog]

Just chill you got 400k with that roster it's solid

[haughty haven]

I have 1 complaint

[mortal timber]

Just 1

[haughty haven]

Why SS Erika doesn’t have Gym Leader theme skill ?

[mortal timber]

No idea

Can she survive at 900?

[haughty haven]

Yes

[mortal timber]

Nice

[haughty haven]

But i have a very good gear with Champion/Sinnoh and ofc GYM LEADER

[mortal timber]

[hardy fog]

Pykuo so you doing 900 now

[mortal timber]

900 with Erika yes

Pykuo was the mind, I executed

Now he needs too

[haughty haven]

@mortal timber

Not as clean as your, but i did it

[graceful pike]

welp

time to go

back on the grind

[mortal timber]

Nice and easy

Well done

[forest ferry]

850 str with CS2 on adaman

This shit took me like a whole day

Nice rank

Str:
360
640
470
440
850

[hardy fog]

Sheeet son

That’s a nice score

[graceful pike]

Send grid

i got that time in my mind already but

nice t o see it being executed

[hardy fog]

Why you gotta reset it for 20 str to beat me by 10 str😂

Rosa you gotta try it on 870

[graceful pike]

what on 870

[haughty haven]

I thought you stop bc of nice ticket number

[graceful pike]

you know damn well the reason why

[haughty haven]

Idk

[hardy fog]

Cilan

[graceful pike]

luckily for you i don't have enough resources for SC Sonia EX

otherwise

[haughty haven]

[graceful pike]

that'd have been an easy 10k

[haughty haven]

And i dont have SS Leaf

Or SC Rosa

[graceful pike]

just you wait

the cook is on

[hardy fog]

If you have to resort to having better pairs for a better score is it really a better score

[haughty haven]

Nah, now you may lose on nice ticket number

[graceful pike]

does it matter?

[hardy fog]

Ok tbh. Everyone putting a lot of effort in to optimize

[haughty haven]

Maybe no for you, but yes for me

[graceful pike]

then you are 3 resets away

from the good ticket number

[haughty haven]

Yes, i know

That the pain for me

[graceful pike]

just

[haughty haven]

[graceful pike]

you

wait

[hardy fog]

You have at least 480k in bag with Cilan score improved

[graceful pike]

yeah i plan to beat elek

I have to

still

If I didn't spend 11 tickets on calem today

as well as the 150 upgrade on Lodge Lillie

maybe

just maybe

[haughty haven]

GL for you, i’m at my limit rn

[graceful pike]

that SC Sonia would have been easy

[graceful pike]

bullshit

[haughty haven]

Maybe i have more type guard maybe i can go higher

[graceful pike]

I only believe in what I see and know

and from what I know

that isn't the case, is it

[haughty haven]

Why you are so ?

Sad

Like i never hide anything from anyone

[hardy fog]

Elek is not even trying that hard

He has a ton of room and get 500k

There is no need to be overzealous in this game. It’s better for the community overall.

[graceful pike]

730

for mallow

if I can just get lucky enough

that's gonna be the limit

still

If only I didn't throw away 11 tickets on Calem ToT

that'd have made it far easier for me to get a higher score against Mallow

but

that's a story for another day

deadlines time

ouch

[forest ferry]

I was doing it for like a day already

[night sleet]

Not bad for 1 attempt.

[forest ferry]

I tried from 870 str and had to drop strength to 860 then 850

Coz not having WW3 suks

@graceful pike this one

[graceful pike]

that looks so bad

but

alright

will give it a shot

[forest ferry]

What bad
Other stuff on grid is useless since mallow has confuse

[graceful pike]

trainer MPR does nothing for adaman

[forest ferry]

it's the cheapest pathing

And actually I didn't get to abuse it, but you can skip a turn it when flinching left side if you manage to proc it

It's like the only way for me to increase strength

The nuke also improves by 9% to prev grid due to extra atk and sync tile

[graceful pike]

sorry chief this ain't it

[haughty haven]

That thing is very important for non SS Erika Team

Without it you always 1 move away from Sync when flinch with Blue

[mortal timber]

The sync Accel there is huge

Even with SS Erika too

Rushing to sync and secure the W

[graceful pike]

how much health

does the sides have

i forgot

[mortal timber]

They melt like butter 🧈

[graceful pike]

mine didn't melt

[haughty haven]

1 Adaman Sync with sup Sync should deal around 16k-17k

And that takes most of side health

[graceful pike]

issue here is

[mortal timber]

Yeah around 75 80%

[graceful pike]

i missed 2 lethals

with it

which costed a whole blue

[mortal timber]

Ludicolo is already melted before

Take down both flinch and win

[haughty haven]

Did you use all move on Ludicolo before ?

[graceful pike]

i did

[mortal timber]

^^^

[graceful pike]

missed by like

ONE HIT

[mortal timber]

Attack moar

MOARRRRRR!!!!!1!1!!1!1?1!1?1?1

[haughty haven]

If you use Mallow, i think you should use 2 Adaman Sync on side

You already lower mid Atk

[graceful pike]

already did actually

[forest ferry]

No

[graceful pike]

tell

[forest ferry]

Only 1 sync on side even with mallow

You just dps with mallow on sides

And pray she procs mad strength enuff

[haughty haven]

Did you take down other side on time ?

Bc i dont think Mallow have enough dmg like Erika

[forest ferry]

Other side gets hit with 4th damage sync

But like, you rly want confusion proc on left

[haughty haven]

Oh

Confusion

[forest ferry]

Sides have no resistance

So proccing confusion with shy is not as unreliable

I found it better than flinching

[haughty haven]

And i still get hit like 80% times with Mallow on Mallow stage

[forest ferry]

Flinch is just pain

[haughty haven]

Nah, flinch better

[mortal timber]

Flinch is way better

Despite being a lie the 60%

Pykuo saw it

But flinch is just safer man

[haughty haven]

Confusion sometimes pros at the wrong time

[forest ferry]

Flinch is better coz you actively reset for it
Confusion is just pleasant surprise

[mortal timber]

I may disagree sometimes it's not pleasant

It ruins my queue cuz I don't expect it

[forest ferry]

Some of my runs had ludicolo not getting flinch but still get confused in first rotation

[haughty haven]

I know Mallow has HYS5, but i still find it isn’t fun to reset just for that

[main pulsar]

Shocker

[haughty haven]

That also a reason why i give up confusion on Adaman

[mortal timber]

I could 600 mallow stage with Selene and Base Mallow but relying on confusion again?

[haughty haven]

[mortal timber]

No thanks

[forest ferry]

I mean
Mallow comp only competes with erika if you reset for shy

Otherwise erika is just better

[graceful pike]

so

how do you sync

[forest ferry]

Hell she even has propulsion 2

Which is like

Way better

[graceful pike]

like

which order

because mine is not chewing mid enough

[haughty haven]

Mid is rng too

Bullet seed, you good

[forest ferry]

Sync blue, sync adaman on right, sync 2x on mid , sync on right

[haughty haven]

Seed Bomb

Uhhh

[mortal timber]

Wait pykuo

Let's be detailed

[forest ferry]

You can take 1 seed bomb

More than 1 is reset

[mortal timber]

Bullet seed TWO hits

You good

[graceful pike]

isn't left far more dangerous?

[haughty haven]

Yeah

[mortal timber]

Otherwise

Game over

[graceful pike]

because single hit vs multi hit?

[forest ferry]

Left is hyperbeam after mid dies

[haughty haven]

Energy Ball

[forest ferry]

Right uses surf

[mortal timber]

Energy ball is just straight ass

[graceful pike]

really? mine is always d.gleam and hydro pump

[forest ferry]

But if mid doesn't die

That happens when mid is still alive

[haughty haven]

That bc mid isn’t die

[main pulsar]

Energy ball?

[graceful pike]

this is AFTER mid died btw

[forest ferry]

energy ball is instant reset

[graceful pike]

kinda cringe

[forest ferry]

You see energy ball

It's reset right away

No reason to try more

[main pulsar]

Who is this gif

For

[haughty haven]

That maybe bc you kill mid when they didnt queue anymove

They knew you will kill mid so they queue move on side

[main pulsar]

Idr any stage using energy ball

[forest ferry]

Oh yea if you kill mid in exactly 1 move, the game preamptively does queing on sides

You want atleast 2 moves on mid to be safe

[haughty haven]

L Blue tanks Physical Better, and with Adaman Master Passive too

[forest ferry]

Or just kill mid with sync

[main pulsar]

Oh cilan have

[forest ferry]

Tho killing mid with sync is pretty much impossible with mallow at 820+ str

[main pulsar]

Did not know

[mortal timber]

Real talk? My winning run had energy ball involved

[haughty haven]

That why with SS Erika, i and Dabbo just killed side

[mortal timber]

I just outplayed my guy Cilan in the endgame with a huge flinch chain stop

This much that blue healed back

And lived till the end

[haughty haven]

If L Blue survive until 2nd Flinch

That the win

[mortal timber]

My guy alive all the battle

What a comeback after all my insults

[graceful pike]

wait so how does blue live after 1st sync?

[chilly flame]

@forest ferry at what point did you press teeter dance

[forest ferry]

Pray only bullet seed

[chilly flame]

Vs cilan

[forest ferry]

At start of battle

[haughty haven]

+6 Def and Healing Sun 1

[chilly flame]

Like turn 1

[forest ferry]

Yes

[graceful pike]

no like

the issue here

is that

[haughty haven]

Sometimes i must admid you will lose First Aid 4 just so Blue can survive

[graceful pike]

after first sync

[haughty haven]

Flinch

[graceful pike]

then sides kill

[haughty haven]

And pray only 2 hit BS

With Mallow

Pray for SHY5

[mortal timber]

Losing first aid early is not a bad thing

[graceful pike]

mallow does not deal enough damage

[mortal timber]

The problem is after

It's bullet seed or nothing

[graceful pike]

like i can't imagine how you would win the sides

with mallow

[forest ferry]

is your mallow running mad strength 2 LS?

[graceful pike]

no?

[haughty haven]

She need not

[graceful pike]

just swapped it for cs2

[forest ferry]

She has to

Blue doesn't want to press x atk at all

[haughty haven]

Blue cant click X Atk All

Or he will die

[graceful pike]

can you give me like a description for it

like how turn order works or what not

like mine right now is

[forest ferry]

Wait, Lemme type it out

[haughty haven]

Important: Flinch the FK Ludicolo or he uses X item

[graceful pike]

Ada > Mal > Blue TM > Cilan > Ada > Mallow > Blue Flinch Right > Ada > Mallow > Blue Sync > Ada > Mallow > Cilan > Ada > Mallow > Blue Flinch Left > Ada > Mallow > Blue TM > Ada Sync

so far it's likethat

so far it's here

[haughty haven]

Wait

Why Blue Tm ?

[graceful pike]

how else do you get +6

[haughty haven]

Do you grid Tm Mpr ?

[graceful pike]

No

just the standard 2

[haughty haven]

Ok nice

[graceful pike]

have to squeeze both tm turns or

[forest ferry]

You flinch mid and left immediately

[graceful pike]

he does not live through first sync

[forest ferry]

And try to get in as much moves as possible

[haughty haven]

No, 1 Tm when quad queue

[graceful pike]

Fuck

[forest ferry]

He lives when he has like 70% ish HP

[haughty haven]

And 1 after you flinch left side

[graceful pike]

Now I have to practice quad que

disgusting

anyone got footage?

anyways

[forest ferry]

If you aren't quading, I doubt you can do high strength

[graceful pike]

somehow I did

like

they just

instaqueue after I flinch

no amount of mashing helped

[haughty haven]

That normal

[forest ferry]

I remember after flinching right you aren't supposed to use queue adaman and mallow

[haughty haven]

You just can insta queue from flinch/sleep without any passive

[forest ferry]

Otherwise you wouldn't be able to quad blue

Due to resilience proc

[graceful pike]

I need like

footage

to know what is needed to happen

[haughty haven]

Can you use SS Erika one, the 1st rotation almost the same ?

[graceful pike]

Man

do I really want to roll for grusha just for tickets

[graceful pike]

ss erika deadlocked to erika

[forest ferry]

if you want tickets, roll MF banner

[graceful pike]

true

[forest ferry]

Even if you have 3/5

[graceful pike]

it's more guaranteed

but

[haughty haven]

I mean the rotation

Not the pair

[forest ferry]

the gameplay is 90% same with erika

[haughty haven]

Just swap SS Erika with Mallow

[forest ferry]

It should work

[haughty haven]

I have video of that

[forest ferry]

Just check how they queue lblue and replicate it in mallow run

[haughty haven]

Idk why you so mean to me rn

[forest ferry]

Who?

[haughty haven]

Rosa, idk i just feel he isn’t comfortable with me rn

[graceful pike]

i need vid

XD

[main pulsar]

Peekuo has vid

[forest ferry]

Now I need 5k more pts to fix ugly number

Idk where I am gonna find it

[stark eagle]

Finished, not much effort but was fun. No units candied/exd for this specific one

[young stone]

I wish I had Variety Mallow & Mix Red

[stark eagle]

Mix profit

[true sparrow]

got my 5/5 ss leaf today from daily

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/681659012798087196/1196832607707607190/Screenshot_20240116_120500_Pokmon_Masters_EX.png?ex=65b91039&is=65a69b39&hm=61659649508a8e4a44010bbee626292b0c31419c85517a24c92e0a8bcfda9506&

[young stone]

I could reset
I’m struggling against Ramos without NC Blue (300 str here)
And for Mallow I want to go higher than 200 str

I want to get these rewards + master rank and be done with this

[chilly flame]

@forest ferry I did 840, how much higher do you think the team can go

[forest ferry]

Cilan team?

[chilly flame]

Yea

Maybe 900?

[forest ferry]

With proper rng, some decent confusion procs
Maybe 870-880

900 is very doubt

Mallow dps is low

[chilly flame]

Yea that makes sense

Power whip wasn’t doing as much as I’d like

[forest ferry]

I wouldn't go higher if you already did 860 or smth

[graceful pike]

so

mad strength 2 is a must right?

you got any grids for mallow?

[chilly flame]

I forgot about that

[forest ferry]

It's like only 1-2k pts

[chilly flame]

I never gave her mad strength

[forest ferry]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/12400/76300?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBgcRExYZHR8iIyUpKi0

Ye, mad strength is must
You never want to press x atk on blue over stomp or seedbomb

[cyan tusk]

Do you think it’s still possible to achieve 1K on gardenia without sslyra?

[true sparrow]

I think so, but would need SC Rosa to test it

[forest ferry]

Gardenia is fully physical

Rosa is wasted then

Since she drops spl atk

[true sparrow]

and red drops attack, it's not an issue

[forest ferry]

Yea but
Rosa can be used vs Ramos or erika no

She also heals

Running 3 healers in same team doesn't seem as efficient

Especially 2 of those debuff offenses

dawn is too slow

[true sparrow]

I don't use dawn with red

and not vs gardenia

dawn is in my cilian team

[forest ferry]

Ah

[hollow prism]

No Adaman then?

[true sparrow]

Adaman, Dawn and Lodge Blue

[hollow prism]

Oh

[forest ferry]

so I assume it's like 950+ str

Vs cilan

[hollow prism]

Why is dawn going there though you could put much less critical units there

[true sparrow]

she's the less critical unit that can go there in my experience

[hollow prism]

You could put another replaceable DPS there and get like 105-110k still

Like Mallow for example

[true sparrow]

tech nukers are way more critical

[forest ferry]

Vallow
Hycamore
Shauna
Bulu
Dawn for tank order I assume

[true sparrow]

I don't have V Mallow

[forest ferry]

Ye, tech nuke means you can get the 3k pts from dmg

[true sparrow]

I don't know where I would use her if I did

[forest ferry]

My Brendan team did more strength than erika and is like lot of pts behind

Coz sun + nuke

[chilly flame]

Blaziken I did the thing

870

[forest ferry]

Gratz

[chilly flame]

Don’t think it can go higher

Adamans 2nd sync on center didn’t kill

[forest ferry]

Wtf non ex mallow

[chilly flame]

Had to queue leaf blade

[forest ferry]

Ye, I had to use like 2 leaf blade in my run

coz mid is so bulky

[night sleet]

Santos wat grids you have on this cilan round? How the heck you did this mutch? Any vids since i try this round and stuck

[chilly flame]

Not really sure how optimal the mallow grid is, but it worked so it’s fine ig

[night sleet]

Blue grass guard adama ww3 and mallow?

[hollow prism]

870 doesn’t seem that unrealistic

Blue def needs to go crazy on the flinches though

[chilly flame]

Yea

It’s just that leaf blade and mallows power whip don’t do that much

[chilly flame]

Mad strength

My Adaman had CS2 but that’s cuz I ran out of delux cookies

If you have WW3 definitely use it

[forest ferry]

Wow another CS2 adaman user 🤝

Also that adaman grid is what I used for 830

[hollow prism]

Imagine being poor on 3* cookies

[forest ferry]

850 I had to pick second +25 tile

Guess gears made the difference

[forest ferry]

I actively skip LG

10 streak and sleep is like what I've been doing for like more than a year

[chilly flame]

My gears suck lol

[forest ferry]

Better than mine

Mine is not as defensive

[hollow prism]

If you have a single team that can quickly clear one stage you can repeatedly reset and spam kill that one stage to get a full set of 3* cookies per stage

I did that with Glojo on Entei to get a stack of like 500 cookies over a day

[forest ferry]

I have normal cookies

Deluxe rates suk without climbing

I tried

[night sleet]

Thanks santos . Any strategy wat need do this round? Since i try but after sync i cant win it.

[chilly flame]

Sync order is Blue, Adaman on right side, Adaman on left side, Adaman on center x2

[night sleet]

I now but after adaman sync i dead

[chilly flame]

Make sure the sides are low enough after sync that you can flinch center, and then kill the sides before they move

Huge turn skip

[night sleet]

Do you have vid off this round maybe?

[chilly flame]

I don’t

But I could probably replicate it

That’d probably take a decent amount of time tho

[night sleet]

Or you can tell me move order instand

Since i dont get how this work i flinch but still its not good as should be

[young stone]

vigilance can be enough? and 1/5 adaman

vigi on blue

i'm gonna attempt

[night sleet]

This my team and cant even 700 make it lol . Wat i do wrong the hell?? Rest stage i didnt have this problem . Even 1000 str was more easy then this

[graceful pike]

so

how did you approach the run?

[graceful pike]

5/5 Adaman even. DAMN

[night sleet]

I have all 5/5🤣

And i try your whit victor too stage

I first flinch middel , adaman trainer move , mallow confusion. Next flinch rigth side, adaman b move malow trop kick middel.

Next flinch left sync trop kick middel

And after this honestly dont now wat to do🤣

[sturdy glen]

have you watched elek video?

[night sleet]

Yeap but he use diffrent team

Dont have ss leaf

So cant do same run

Kill sides but

Even got lucky whit confusion

He use ss leaf i dont have hear🤣 errika use others

[sturdy glen]

ah then the problem is obvious
leaf debuffs attacks and heals
so they can tank stronger syncs

[night sleet]

I got debuff -6 whit trop kick

[sturdy glen]

isnt cilan sync special?

[night sleet]

No

[sturdy glen]

so mallow has a real utility?

pogggggggg

[sturdy glen]

btw then i'd say that the difference is
in the -2 extra defense and heals from leaf

[night sleet]

Yeap but santos did 870 i use 700 same team

So i sure make some mistake

In this round

[forest ferry]

mistake is not resetting enuff for perfect runs

[rocky crater]

resetting for acerola tm mprs

[sturdy glen]

well he posted the screen 30 mins ago
so it's not weird that without a video
feels hard to copy

[night sleet]

I now but its strange how its soo dam hard to do it

[graceful pike]

sometimes when i look at myself in the mirror

i think of insanity

when i have to reset for confusion

[night sleet]

Rosa stan how did you do your vs cilan have a vid? Since i have victor too

And try but work even wors then mallow🤣

[graceful pike]

i don't sadly

but basically

after the second sync

you want tto play it so that

victor can dps enough

and well

he wipes the floor with his max move

killing the sides

the difference between

mallow and victor is that

while victor can't survive as well

his max move can deal a lot of damage

[chilly flame]

@night sleet sorry for that long wait, I was recording a run

I pushed slightly higher

Went from 870 to 875 lmao

I’ll post the vid whenever it’s done processing

[night sleet]

Lol event end 23 so alot time for it

Ok thanks for help 🥰🥰

[graceful pike]

nice

[chilly flame]

Max file size is 500

My file size is 530

One sec

@graceful pike @night sleet enjoy

Surprisingly it didn’t take me that long

Only 37 min

[graceful pike]

You lucky

time to

do it

[chilly flame]

Have fun

[forest ferry]

wow , so you sync left side after right instead of middle

[chilly flame]

I'll be here if you have any questions

[forest ferry]

I just go right, middle, middle, left

[graceful pike]

gonna follow this so badly

so you got about

one lucky confusion

somehow not hitting as hard as I'd like but

I'll take it

[chilly flame]

The plan was supposed to be to skip left's turn, but that never happened

[night sleet]

Ok thanks

[forest ferry]

ye, I think if you can skip it can even go higher strength

[night sleet]

Now finish work and try it tommorow when be at work🤣🤣

[forest ferry]

It's 2k more pts than what I have rn

Maybe I'll try to replicate

[graceful pike]

is Haymaker worth it?

[chilly flame]

Yes

[graceful pike]

like I feel it can be thrown away for other nodes

[forest ferry]

you can throw haymaker and do 500 str instead

[graceful pike]

sync damage guard is not needed since he lives anyways. Benchmark is Mallow

[forest ferry]

Well you can skip sdg and bg2

And go mpr2

It's +25 BP and +5 atk

[graceful pike]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/28400/47000?s=3&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=13016303&g=AAECAwQFBggLDg8QHSAi

I'm still sticking my guns with this

much more consistent

[forest ferry]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/28400/47000?s=3&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=13016303&g=AAECAwQFBggdICIlJyotLi8

[chilly flame]

I didn't want MPR cuz I wanted to just focus on damage

[graceful pike]

then this should provide more no?

[forest ferry]

i mean
You don't need MPR

It's just more damage

Bg2 is shit

[graceful pike]

and if you want to get more damage

[forest ferry]

Sdg is like not even useful unless you delay sync

Which is just worse

[graceful pike]

enfeeble and insult to injury

are just

more consistent overall?

[forest ferry]

Leafblade gaining 30% more dps doesn't seem worth at all

His big thing is nuke

[graceful pike]

like call me crazy but i HATE inconsistency

[forest ferry]

What's inconsistent with 100% sync multiplier

[chilly flame]

I was curious about enfeeble admittedly

[forest ferry]

It's only -2

So 1.4x -> 1.6x

[graceful pike]

for one attack

[chilly flame]

But his main damage is from nuke

[graceful pike]

yeah...

it's a hard trade tbh

[chilly flame]

So I focus that

[graceful pike]

i will have to rethink my choicse later

[forest ferry]

Well you can try it

If it's better I'll copy

[chilly flame]

See how it works

[graceful pike]

also

I need 13 tickets in the span of, like 5 days

i did my math and

well, it's not going good

from the available resources I can get at least 8

[forest ferry]

roll MF banner

[true sparrow]

you need haymaker, it's not worth it at all to try giving adaman dps multipliers

[graceful pike]

yeah... it's a hard guarantee + 2

after 20 pulls

but damn that Iono is quite

inviting

I'd need dupes for Gauntlet as well XD

decisions decisions

I hope I don't get dupes for things like Ryuki, Drasna or what'shername yet

the normal support one

imagine if i get iono from dailies huh

that'd be a nice +4

[hollow prism]

While i don’t disagree that you 1000% need Haymaker, what is it about Haymaker specifically that’s SO much more powerful than other multipliers?

Is it just calculated differently?

[chilly flame]

Making a strong move stronger is better than making a weak move not as weak

[hollow prism]

Yeah but is there something that sets Haymaker apart from other tiles you could grab that boost sync damage

[chilly flame]

You’re reliant on adamans sync as the main damage source, so getting the most you can get out of it seems optimal

[true sparrow]

Haymaker, cs2 ls and solar flare 5 equals 2.7 multiplier x2 from innate gives you a 5.4 for his sync.

If you remove haymaker and get cs2 from his grid instead, it's cs2, cs2 ls and solar flare 5 equals 1.9 multiplier. Innate makes 3.8

Haymaker makes your sync 40% stronger

[hollow prism]

How is that calculated

You start with 1.0, Haymaker adds 1.0, cs2 adds 0.2, and SF5 is 0.5 for 2.7?

[true sparrow]

Yes

[hollow prism]

So haymaker doubles the damage WITHOUT being a multiplier?

Holy shit that’s busted

[atomic rain]

uh

sync innates are double bp

but after the grid multipliers

[hollow prism]

Yeah haymaker doesn’t “double” the damage, it just increases it by 100%

Is what i’m understanding

[atomic rain]

yeah but its the way how innates interact with grid multipliers so you still get a big boost

[hollow prism]

Yeah i’m assuming that it gets applied BEFORE the multipliers which is why it’s so strong

Because it’s already a strong boost, but now it’s getting doubled by other boosts

[atomic rain]

yeah runner explained that i think

[true sparrow]

For his move instead, you would be adding cs2 and insult to Injury which add 50%. But Adaman already has CS2 or WW3 LS plus his passive which gives him 50% move multipliers under sun.

With the dps stuff you would have 2.2 multiplier for Adaman Vs 1.7 without. Which is a 30% difference, but his sync is much stronger than his dps already so that 40% is a lot better.

[hollow prism]

Idk what you meant by innate then

[hollow prism]

Ok so if he’s +6 he gets double damage

[atomic rain]

yeah and thats multiplying bp after grid multipliers

its a final modifier

[hollow prism]

So the only thing setting Haymaker apart is if atk is maxed out the boost is 1.0, where as every boost with a number in its name is boosted by 0.X where x= that number

[forest ferry]

It makes his sync 480 BP
Compared to 3 leaf blade at 100 BP each it's like way higher

[hardy fog]

That’s interesting. Taking the sides first.

[chilly flame]

@hollow prism I'm about to do something crazy

I'm gonna reset Ramos

[hollow prism]

NO WAY ☠️

You’re an idiot

What was your score on Ramos before

Is there like some sort of damage calculator for this game?

[forest ferry]

Pomatools

[hollow prism]

So can you plug in a specific stage with all the parameters, then plug in a unit, and a move for it to take, and see how much it does?

[forest ferry]

You can input stage defenses in pomatools as well

And gears, tho I think there's no gear substat stuff

[hollow prism]

I want that but for surviving enemy sync moves

[forest ferry]

Ah, that I have no idea

[hollow prism]

I want to be able to answer dumb questions like “at what strength can SCRosa take 2 Syncs and 3 surfs with one potion used on her”

[brisk osprey]

[brisk osprey]

hello, i have no idea how to deal with the grass high score event, can anyone give me a heads up?

i've read the pins tho

sort of understood something...

[onyx crystal]

What has you confused?

[main pulsar]

@chilly flame do you have the details on how to do the ramos lyra tanking run?

[shy flax]

SS Lyra, Dawn, and SS Erika was recommended for me against Gardenia

Who should be the main sync nuke on that team - SS erika or SS Lyra?

[chilly flame]

Get lucky

No I’m not joking

@hollow prism

If you’re using my exact team, Lyra needs light screen refreshes, Rosa needs multiple potions, and mallow needs to survive as long as possible

[main pulsar]

derm

well i dont have many pptions so i guess i can try it

[hardy fog]

Depends what level ss Lyra

[shy flax]

3/5 EX

[hollow prism]

What str are you going for then

[main pulsar]

beeg

also @hardy fog wots ur grid for the mallow team

and stuff

i cant do attack lower on ssleaf obviously but the other stuff i can do

[hardy fog]

Just driving for an hour lol

[acoustic tendon]

finally did this on 840 str. but didn't quite get my goal score of 400k time to reset another

[turbid tiger]

Anything I need to know?

Should I just delay until I fish out a copy of dawn from the sinnoh tickets?

[main pulsar]

Who has the selene grid cooking

[atomic rain]

i think selene really needs 3/5 to work here

[turbid tiger]

...hahaha...oof.

Ok back to the drawing board

TL Sycamore/Lodge Blue/Erika
Gardenia/Shauna 1/5/NC Rosa
Selene/Dawn 1/5/SC Steven
Mallow/SS Acerola/Ramos
Brendan/SS Morty/Rosa

...but with the move levels, the teams probably need significant rearranging

[main pulsar]

Those move levels are aids

[turbid tiger]

Indeed, my luck decided to put it all on 7 copies of sharpedo grimsley

[main pulsar]

But if I’m being honest Steven should be able to get you to like 300 strength

[turbid tiger]

Or maybe there's something to be done with my other supports?

I just want 180k but it feels...

[hardy fog]

What is your ss leaf level

[main pulsar]

3, but I’m trying to fit mallow in there

Cuz using erika in ncleaf team gives me pain

[hardy fog]

Okie

[main pulsar]

Does the selene grid change or something

[hardy fog]

Yea

[rain sierra]

All right, time for me to go steal teams to complete this mode

[hardy fog]

Ss leaf doesn’t do damage so Selene needs to have high dps mid

But if you mallow you have some extra fire so she would optimize for sync

[rain sierra]

Then again, not like I have SC Rosa and Seasonal Sycamore

[main pulsar]

So I get inertia critastrophe and restrain sync?

[atomic rain]

she has critastrophe?

[hardy fog]

20 attack tile

[main pulsar]

Need that instead?

[hollow prism]

YOO you made it into 500k club welcome to the party

We’re now at 12 members

[main pulsar]

no critastophe?

ok

is it bad multiplier?

[mental blade]

Might just not have the energy to reach it, considering how costly the bottom half is

[shell oak]

^ even if you drop the 20 atk you cant

cs2 makes up for it though and the 20 atk is probably better overall

[hardy fog]

Imo too far for 10% attack + sync dmg is better

[main pulsar]

Didn’t. Realize how powerful increasing sync base power is

[slow turtle]

Hello. I’d like to see if I can improve my HS in any form

and just to make it easier, filtered grass types

i did it originally with...about +3500 to +4500. teams used:

Ramos: SS Erika, Lyra, SS Blue
Erika: SST Red, Erika, Rosa
Mallow: MC/Solgaleo, Ramos (filler), Hop
Gardenia: Mallow, Skyla, Shauna
Cilan: SS Red, Dawn (filler), Sycamore

my units

[frank shore]

Try utilizing all of your grass pair, so you have more bonus multiplier

[slow turtle]

yeah i think the only one i cannot fit is Gardenia. i tried changing some teams around but i scored less instead

for Ramos, i swapped in SS Red and did SS Red sync nuke

oh hmmm i scored less cuz i used 1 less grass unit

just feels difficult without EX units

[slow turtle]

ok my score went up to about 68k, but i doubt i'll be able to get more than this, unless i play around with strength points

[fathom ivy]

so um

[forest ferry]

Lower your strength and run atleast 2 grass units per team

Running 2 offtype is shit

[fathom ivy]

how are y'all managing with over 500 strength against cilan

i feel like whenever I try it, I just die by a surf

[forest ferry]

Flinch hax

[fathom ivy]

[forest ferry]

Ez 800+ str

[fathom ivy]

im trying but I get bodied by the ludicolo :(

[forest ferry]

That's why you flinch

[fathom ivy]

oh no it's like

as soon as I get to flinching mid again, he queues up surf immediately and I die

first time flinching it is fine

it's the second time around where there's just not enough time to queue up anything

tried lowering my strength to about 650 and it's still no good lol

[forest ferry]

he never queues immediately

You flinch middle

And then middle just self buffs

You just press stomp during that time

[fathom ivy]

hold on lemme record this so I get a better understanding

[forest ferry]

you don't need to, just replicate this

Santos already did like 875 str

[fathom ivy]

oh shit

okay I see where I went wrong lol

tysm

[chilly flame]

You got this Tixx

[slow turtle]

since i have just 9 grass units, 1 of them will end up with 1 grass. can gardenia be used as a dps? i'm thinking if i reset my Erika team, i can maybe do Rosa on one team, and Erika on the other (Erika seems to be a decent sp tank with Sun)

Erika: Erika/Rosa, SST Red, Shauna?
Cilan: Erika/Rosa, Gardenia, Blaine?

maybe Rosa should go onto the Gardenia team as the 2 sync buffs on 1st sync might help Gardenia DPS more than SST Red

seems like Gardenia can only be used on Ramos. and maybe Gardenia. the rest are all anti-spatk

[forest ferry]

Run eggmon

Like egg leafeon

run rosa and Lyra vs Ramos
And erika as tank vs erika

[slow turtle]

Oh forgot about eggmons. Let me see what i have. I think my best leafeon is only 2 passives

[fathom ivy]

energy ball is not fun

[graceful pike]

Okay so

Somehow

I always get dazzling gleamed

Like

Ludicolo does NOT attack like he was supposed to

[fathom ivy]

might be due to his hp being too low?

[graceful pike]

Like the plan was to turn skip

[fathom ivy]

it's weird

sometimes it jumps straight to the shiinotic for whatever reason, other times it works normally

[graceful pike]

Yeah

I got that problem

[hollow prism]

@cyan tusk For the Acerola Sonia SSLeaf team on Mallow, how good is SSLeaf’s sync?

I’m thinking maybe Adrenaline 1, into TM to get back to a really quick 4th sync with Sonia

[hardy fog]

Ss leaf does special brother

No dmg 😂

[graceful pike]

@chilly flame

How do you force the situation where

[hardy fog]

Just quad you don’t have anything stopping you

[graceful pike]

The stupid shinotic won't attack?

[cyan tusk]

I never used it

SSLeaf was all about healing and debuffing

Her sync is special so nope for the stage

[hollow prism]

Somehow despite me having 2 sun boosting passives on my gear i’m not doing enough dmg

Do you think SS Leaf needs Def Crush?

To just get the def down faster?

Or do you think me going for 820 is too high

[hollow prism]

Ok what is going on i can’t even kill her at +800

Did you let her sync a second time?

Or did you sync twice with Sonia

[cyan tusk]

I think I let her sync twice but bc of a non sync crit

[hollow prism]

I can’t survive a second sync even with 2 Acerola refreshes

[turbid tiger]

How can I go about improving this (this is on gardenia btw)

Or should I move this team to cilan instead

[forest ferry]

run terrain eggmon

[turbid tiger]

Don't have terrain eggmon

[forest ferry]

Coz 1/5 bulu

[turbid tiger]

[shy flax]

Tips for Brendan / Lyra / Ramos vs Ramos? Lyra keeps dying too quickly

[turbid tiger]

Should I run solar flare eggmon grookey?

[forest ferry]

Not worth

Just run 3 grass

Even for 1/5 bulu, 28k is very low score

[graceful pike]

Fucking finally

Adaman tanks the second sync thanks to Synthesis

That's a +8000 right there

[turbid tiger]

Hmm so what should I fill the team with?

[turbid tiger]

Alright, would it be tech grookey or supp or striker grookey?

[forest ferry]

you don't have any other grass pairs?

Coz eggmons have low bulk and relatively less utility

Only reason recommending leafeon and paldea cat is they set terrain

[turbid tiger]

Errrr, yeah

Bad move levels

[forest ferry]

Better than eggmon

[turbid tiger]

And my luck has not yielded an ss erika

Who do I put in as a third then?

Tried selene but...gauge died

[forest ferry]

Non grass is not recommended at all unless it's high ubers / actually hitting type advantage

[turbid tiger]

Should I move this team to cilan actually? And swap ss morty here instead for gauge

[forest ferry]

Your roster is not invested enough

[turbid tiger]

Yeah fair enough

[forest ferry]

You got any other potential high end unit?

Lack of dps is bigger problem than tanks

[turbid tiger]

Most of my dps are offtypes

Give me a moment

EXed:
SS Sneasel 3/5
SC Zinnia 1/5
Irida 3/5
SS Steven 1/5
SS May 1/5

Or eh, this is a succinct enough list

[forest ferry]

I can see lycamore , BP Erika, rosa vs Ramos
Erika vs erika
Bulu, Selene, mallow vs mallow
Dawn, Ramos vs gardenia
Lblue vs cilan

As of now

It's the first time I am seeing a roster with wide variety of supports but like way few dps

It's usually the opposite

[turbid tiger]

never pulled for strikers because they keep getting powercrept

[forest ferry]

Funny coz supports got powercrept faster than strikers this year

[turbid tiger]

That's true

Yeah basically that's the notable units I have

Trying to squeeze as much points as possible

But well this roster might not make it to 180k

[forest ferry]

Ramos : lycamore, BP Erika, rosa

Erika : erika, SSsilver, Shauna (tank with erika )

Mallow: mallow, bulu, Selene (the gauge is good, just trop kick with mallow on mid and pray for confusion procs)

Gardenia : dawn, Brendan, ramos

Cilan : Lblue, gardenia, SSmorty

Ig that's the best you can do.....

You still need ex on lycamore , rosa, Shauna, bulu, Selene, dawn, Brendan, lblue minimum