High Score

[haughty haven]

Meat shield

[bold pond]

Would putting in champion leaf with Moltres help?

[forest ferry]

main thing is just getting 0 moonblast pre sync

[cunning shore]

Vegetable Shield*

[forest ferry]

Coz moonblast is instant reset

[cunning shore]

If you're gonna run Erika, no need for Moltres

[haughty haven]

🌻Shield

[forest ferry]

Leaf is only for high pts

You don't run offtype for 180k when your roster pretty has good grass access

[cunning shore]

They're trying for medal

Too

[forest ferry]

medal is 250k+ imo to be safe

[forest ferry]

So yea.......might want to revamp teams then

[bold pond]

This is where I am at right now by finishing.

[forest ferry]

ex your adaman and try that stage at 600 str

[cunning shore]

Can boost Cilan further

Ye

[forest ferry]

Can figure out what to do after that

[haughty haven]

Very simple clear

[cunning shore]

And Erika Stage we can try different tanks

[forest ferry]

if possible also lblue

[haughty haven]

Remember flinch Ludicolo on Cilan stage

[forest ferry]

For erika stage
There's one problem tho

Shauna + erika gauge is shit

You want fast dps

So Brendan better

[bold pond]

With stomp?

[haughty haven]

Yes

You can reset for 2 flinch

[bold pond]

That was actually why I was struggling with that in the first place I had no gauge to do anything

[forest ferry]

first and last teams are fine
For others
Erika : erika, Shauna, Brendan
Mallow : Selene, bulu, sslyra
Gardenia : scsonia, dawn, egg paldea cat

[haughty haven]

Brendan move to Erika, SC Sonia to Ramos and SS Leaf to Gardenia

[haughty haven]

SC Sonia bad here

She need Gauge to deal dmg

[sullen pier]

[forest ferry]

Paldea cat give +2 spd
Run mg2 on dawn

[haughty haven]

What do you mean ?

She really need Gauge

[sullen pier]

(thats the truth tho Can't deny that)

You are too fast at typing sob

[bold pond]

What is mg2?

[sullen pier]

Mind games 2

[bold pond]

That's a lucky skill I presume?

[forest ferry]

no
Lol
Move gauge refresh 2

I should have mentioned mgr 2

It's from deluxe cookie

[haughty haven]

That not the problem

[worldly parcel]

Sonia (Special Costume) & Tsareena

Hit the Gas 5:

Increases the amount of move gauge slots needed to use attack moves by one and powers up moves.

Power Flux 9:

The fuller the move gauge when moves are selected, the more this powers up moves.

Sync Power Flux:

The fuller the move gauge when the user's sync move is selected, the more this powers up the sync move.

Themes:

Grass | Galar | Special Costume
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[bold pond]

Oh the purple cookies I have some

[forest ferry]

Oh yea

[haughty haven]

She has Power Flux 9 and Sync Power Flux

[forest ferry]

Shit

Then bulu+sslyra for scsonia vs mallow

And dawn, Selene, egg paldea cat for gardenia

Oh god Selene suk, is mallow without sun better than her?

as nuke

[sullen pier]

Yes ofc

Mallow is always better than her

[forest ferry]

then dawn, mallow, egg paldea cat ig

[haughty haven]

Selene Power boost when

And real Alt too

[sullen pier]

No one buffs ATK for Mallow

[forest ferry]

Mad strength 2 from red silver cookie

[sullen pier]

[haughty haven]

[forest ferry]

Hmmmm
Does sslyra have atk buff to ally?

[bold pond]

So uh I'm a bit lost which for gardenia and which for mallow?

[haughty haven]

Yes

[forest ferry]

Can swap paldea cat and sslyra

[haughty haven]

+4 from 2 Tm

[sullen pier]

+4 ATK at base

[forest ferry]

Gardenia : dawn, sslyra, mallow
Mallow : scsonia, bulu, egg paldea cat

There done

Can run CS2 on mallow with sslyra buffing her offenses

[bold pond]

My SS Lyra is 1/5 not ex but I have 250+ coins so....and hundreds of power ups and thousands of tickets.

[forest ferry]

She's just there for flinch and terrain

Mallow is the one nuking

also sslyra buffs mallow

[haughty haven]

Unless your team have someone self sufficient, deal good dmg without using Sync, good Aoe to cover SS Lyra lack dmg then 3/5 SS Lyra is worthy

[bold pond]

I have to see if I have egg cat

[haughty haven]

Support cat

Other two just sad

For this HS

[cunning shore]

Everything that isn't bulu, goat and dawn are sad this hs

[mortal timber]

Made it to 800 str by swapping serperior with roserade

[cyan tusk]

Hey the mushroom is not sad

[mortal timber]

Crit shield my beloved

[cunning shore]

I thought it's a myth

[haughty haven]

, back to my old team

Crit shield my beloved

[mortal timber]

Got omega luck with mp on spiky shield

And did it

[haughty haven]

[cyan tusk]

[cunning shore]

Yeah I can't see her

She doesn't exist

[haughty haven]

V pair

Imagine i have her after Grass HS end

[bold pond]

Uh no paldea cat

I don't touch eggs much I always forget about them 😭

[cunning shore]

There is no imagination that's the only time you will get her

[mortal timber]

Gentle reminder I almost did 70k points with Lyra tank

I am writing history

[cunning shore]

Yeah hellish attempt

[forest ferry]

Coping with Ramos is only way

[mortal timber]

I did yesterday in the end

[cunning shore]

I watched as i fell asleep, i rather sit on a stick-

[forest ferry]

I can't do 870 str, not enuff dmg

I hate CS2 on adaman

[mortal timber]

Took a bit but

[forest ferry]

It's so pepega

[sullen pier]

how are you today, writing history?

[mortal timber]

I am doing illegal things this HS gakon

I shouldn't be up there

[sullen pier]

shocker

[cunning shore]

He's finding new ways to torture his mind

And sanity

[mortal timber]

We got so robbed of a Lyra buff

[sullen pier]

like me every LG fr fr

[mortal timber]

Kukui could have waited

[mortal timber]

Great minds think alike

Now what if I tell you that

[haughty haven]

Make me remember EEVEELUTION PAIR i had after HS ended

[mortal timber]

I could 600 str with selene

Keyword: could

[haughty haven]

Peaceful or painful

[mortal timber]

I never tried it tbh

Like so far I won 550

[haughty haven]

I kinda want to try higher str

But i also dont want to ruin ticket number

[mortal timber]

If only the lil bulb resisted a 800 str sync

[sullen pier]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[forest ferry]

It'll be useful after 4 years when they rerun

[haughty haven]

Btw how is your HS going, i need it for HS Vietnam sheet friend

[sullen pier]

i gave up

[mortal timber]

Nuuuuuuuuu

[sullen pier]

i was overconfident

no Adaman, no NC Leaf, no VMallow

also no 3/5 SS Lyra

[bold pond]

Should I use a different Adaman grid?

[haughty haven]

At least you have 3/5 Mix Red now

[cunning shore]

Even with EX and +6 sp.def he doesn't

[haughty haven]

[sullen pier]

that cheers me up a bit

[mortal timber]

Yeah I tried

It was hilarious

[haughty haven]

This is bad grid for him in HS

His strongest thing is his Sync

You should have someone deals normal dmg for him like SS Erika or Mallow

[bold pond]

Yeah he is with ss Erika and lodge blue.

[cunning shore]

I tried first 👀

[bold pond]

Do we have a better grid example?

I have trouble swapping windows or masters crashes.

[haughty haven]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=000802047000&s0=5&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=13016303&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFBgcKCwwODxAjJCUnKi0&v1=028400047000&s1=3&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13016303&t1=4444&g1=AAECAwQFBggVFh0gIiMlJyot&v2=002100010300&s2=5&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=24010501&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFBgcJDA8QGhweISMk

This issue my grid

[haughty haven]

“Is”

~~F i used Skill issues too much now it autocorrect is into issues ~~

[mortal timber]

[cyan tusk]

[bold pond]

Just by doing cilan I placed so much higher. Is this safe?

[sullen pier]

certainly not

240 - 250k onwards is the safe zone

[nova cedar]

I'm trying this mode for the first time, I beat CS for the first time yesterday and I'm not sure how many grass pairs to use to get the most rewards. Is it better to use 1 per team and increase difficulty, or 2 per team but easier difficulty?

[bold pond]

I won't lose this placing by resetting right?

[haughty haven]

This mode is not for a new player sadly

[haughty haven]

Yes, you wont lose anything

It always keeps your highest score

[bold pond]

Oh good I have some time then

Are we sure neo Leaf won't help any of this?

[cunning shore]

She would, but you want really high STR and more effort to pull off

[cunning shore]

She can boost your Erika stage to 40-70k depending on how hard you clear it
Which like I mentioned yesterday, probably needs lots of trial and error

[chilly flame]

Had a dream that I hit 500k

And then I woke up….

[bold pond]

Oh okay

I'll probably just leave it where I'm at I don't have time to be sitting here resetting all day honestly.

[cunning shore]

You getting high on your winning mindset

[cyan tusk]

you can do anything if you put your mind into it!!

[cunning shore]

You can still do better than what you currently have with lower str

[cyan tusk]

That’s how they said

[cunning shore]

Like lower str than what I recommended

[bold pond]

Yeah I was struggling for some reason so high.

The supports kept getting one shot killed.

[chilly flame]

That sounds like someone who doesn’t have the winners mindset

[cunning shore]

I am above you

[chilly flame]

Yea only cuz I’m choosing not to do cilan rn

If I did the stage with my current other scores I’d be higher

[cunning shore]

give me Bulu or Victor

I'll backflip my score

[forest ferry]

830 str

Man I rly wish I had WW3 on adaman

[frank shore]

Str:
Ramos : 250
Erika : 250
Mallow : 300
Gardenia : 500
Cilan : 200

Any feedback on how to improve this line up? I also have LBlue, and can EX 2-3 pairs later after next week CSMM

[cunning shore]

Woo

[chilly flame]

Perfect, this is the team I have planned use vs cilan

Can you explain your run

[cunning shore]

Your Gardenia team can easily go 120k

[chilly flame]

Like who synced

And how you kept blue alive

[cunning shore]

Blue eventually dies
You want shy

[forest ferry]

Blue -> adaman ( on right ) -> adaman on mid for rest

Shave off sides as much as possible with your dps

Post sync flinch mid before move and then target right so you can get more sync down

And then target mid for rest

Once mid dies , only left will remain

And pray for confusion rng

Main thing is decent rng for mad strength on mallow

Coz blue doesn't want to press x atk

[cunning shore]

Left you mean?

[forest ferry]

Ah yes
Left mb

[cunning shore]

Yupp

So throw cs2 Mallow

For MS2

Interesting

[forest ferry]

Blue pressing x atk means less heals

So yea

Str
360
640
470
440
830

You can ask pykuo or blaand for more tips since they are the ones guided me

I am also not pushing anymore
Cilan drained me

@hardy fog @cunning shore time to slack event for me

[chilly flame]

Is mallow using trop kick on anyone other than mid

[forest ferry]

Only on mid

Both sides have spl damage anyways

And you try to flinch em

[chilly flame]

So once center is at -6 you just spam power whip

[stray dust]

Damn if my first try 240k lets me stay in master I'm just gonna laugh

[true sparrow]

finished my clears, wanted to make different teams, I don't Intend to try hard in this one, but I would like to improve the Ramos stage 'cause it's a very fun clear, 5/5 leaf should allow that team to do 900+ str

650
900
600
600
800

[cunning shore]

Whoaaa that Ramos run

[forest ferry]

wow
Running letting other people shine

[spark thistle]

any sync grid suggestion for 5/5 Red/venusaur for this event? my other two is ss lyra abe dawn.

against gardenia

[true sparrow]

750 strength

[main pulsar]

That’s a cool team

[stray dust]

Damn the double flinch

[frank shore]

How can i achieve that? The only way i see is to get Dawn EX 😅

[chilly flame]

Yes

[cyan tusk]

Ex Dawn doesn’t make 500 strength difference btw

[chilly flame]

Who were you syncing with

[cyan tusk]

https://youtu.be/-ehhe6OYtMA?si=XxLaGzjJ7X6_ssi_

14.54

[chilly flame]

I saw that vid you did with ropalme btw

How many tries did that irida team take

[cyan tusk]

I don’t know bc it’s @brittle cosmos’s job

[brittle cosmos]

One

[cyan tusk]

I did the frogs, the grass and fire one

[chilly flame]

Damn, my guess was 3

[brittle cosmos]

Well, one did failed, but because I went with the wrong grid

I meant to use the debuffing one from the start, but I had entered with my Artic Arrival grid since it's generally my default

[cyan tusk]

The frogs took some time bc I’m dumb and did not realize I could get away with +4 defense so no need to reset for syca mpr

[brittle cosmos]

As, originally, we meant to use the Ice team on Cilan

[mortal timber]

Breaking grass HS with style I see

Very great

[brittle cosmos]

But decided swapping it to Ramos was more efficient

[mortal timber]

[chilly flame]

Yea that makes sense

[brittle cosmos]

Ramos buffing +3 SpA can get pretty annoying to tank, so a combination of Irida + Cynthia is pretty nice vs him

[chilly flame]

Feel like cilan can be more flexible

[brittle cosmos]

On top, of course, of just the team having a 55% special damage reduction

[chilly flame]

lol

[cyan tusk]

I should have some screenshots of failed Ramos attempt

[main pulsar]

where do 55% damage reduction

[chilly flame]

Master passives

[main pulsar]

that sounds so wild

[cyan tusk]

This was kinda spicy but did not get through

[brittle cosmos]

Sinnoh Spirit + Kanto Spirit + Sinnoh Flag Bearer

[main pulsar]

i never consider masterfair passives going up that high

[brittle cosmos]

Actually, I think I calced that as unboosted Sinnohs, let me check again

[cyan tusk]

Oh I also had the backup plan

[chilly flame]

Roxie go brr

[mortal timber]

SS Roxie trashing on ramos

[cyan tusk]

1/5 piers is frail af

[mortal timber]

Based

[brittle cosmos]

Yeah, it's actually 58.42 special damage reduction

[main pulsar]

does that mean its actually better to go off region for different masterfairs instead of havig multiple of the same region

[brittle cosmos]

Since both Sinnohs are boosted

[chilly flame]

Dude I tried using him vs Darach and he got shredded

[cyan tusk]

I had to 20/20 him for this attempt

I also had to Rolex ssroxie but I’ve always wanted to do it so I had the excuse

[chilly flame]

Very good investment

[brittle cosmos]

For damage reduction on one side specifically, you wanted same region Spirit + Flag Bearer and a different Spirit

[cyan tusk]

Next in line is Variety Giovanni, always wanted to but never have the chance to

This time I had 2 striker cake

[chilly flame]

Do either of y’all have 3/5 HViola

Curious to see how she’d do vs Cilan

[cyan tusk]

Nope, mine’s 1/5

[brittle cosmos]

It's not necessarily the best for overall damage reduction or damage boosting

Nah, I didn't pull Viola

[chilly flame]

Rip

Mines also 1/5

[cyan tusk]

Had to invest in syca

[chilly flame]

Invest, more like

[cyan tusk]

It’s the wording that makes the difference

[chilly flame]

I’m about to try HSycamore/SS Erika/Victor vs Erika

This ain’t gonna be fun

The amount of things that would make me have to reset is annoying

[cyan tusk]

Nope, keep the dyna for the end of the fight to stockpile damage actually

[chilly flame]

Yea I’m gonna

But Erika constantly having to set sun is gonna suck

[stray dust]

Good luck sand toes

[forest ferry]

That's why erika runs with adaman or NCleaf

Since they both extend sun

[frank shore]

Then, is it grid and order of play?

[chilly flame]

Oh yea

@forest ferry what was ur grid for Adaman

[forest ferry]

This, if you are not running mallow you pick crit confuse

[cyan tusk]

If you look at the video you can see it yourself

[scarlet summit]

Brendon has Dauntless, and Barry has Vigilance. My SS Leaf is 1/5, without any lucky skill. All the theme skills were maxed, and I used maxed off type gears

[young stone]

How much strenght did u use

[scarlet summit]

200

[chilly flame]

I was so close

[earnest fulcrum]

Hey High Scorers ! Can this roster do any good ?

[forest ferry]

You have good roster
You can check some of the clears pinned for reference after EXing some of your units

[earnest fulcrum]

I did check some of them and they all have Adaman and Red Venusaur

[scarlet summit]

Where are the pins now?

[earnest fulcrum]

Which I don’t have

[forest ferry]

You can take some as reference and adjust comps for rest

Since you do have 4 limiteds

[chilly flame]

@outer whale imma be streaming this run if you’re interested in watching me suffer

[chilly flame]

Group pic

@cunning shore see

[cunning shore]

I am not that far down

I refuse to push though

Well done

[hardy fog]

Dang I got cut off 😂

At least I made it

[forest ferry]

All des OP players have 100k pts more than me

[hardy fog]

@forest ferry trying this BTW since I got so close last night but only on 850 though

[onyx current]

Hello lel

[mortal timber]

✋🤚

[forest ferry]

I already did 830 str so going any more str probs not worth unless it's big jump

[fathom ivy]

Oh

[forest ferry]

oh god

I just realised I done fucked up

This grid has 10 more atk and 25 more BP on sync

I only give up brawn gain 2 and sync damage guard

Both I never needed in first place

Now I have to redo

[cobalt meadow]

Im using discord mobile version how do i check the pins here? 😅

Im looking for that doc where we see whats the best pair for each stage

Like ranks

[stark eagle]

Tap on the channel name
Settings
Pinned Messages

[cobalt meadow]

Omg, thanks bro

[long oyster]

...why is it in settings

I hate discord sometimes

[main pulsar]

I want in

👉 👈

[outer whale]

Posting thie here for anyone suffering with Ramos.

Ramos can only use Surf 3 times in a battle. USE THIS KNOWLEDGE WISELY.

[sullen pier]

3 Surf are enough to wipe my team out

[shell oak]

i read too fast and mud shot got mixed with surf and i saw "murf" and had to reread it

[tiny ore]

you always run out of potions after surf #2

[sullen pier]

Basically my experience

[hardy fog]

Sleep gaming

[tiny ore]

what sleep resistance does he have anyways

never tested

[hardy fog]

It’s in pinned Infograph

[odd abyss]

is there a guide for 180k out?

[tiny ore]

huh i dont see lessen sleep

interesting

[outer whale]

there is on youtube.

[magic sandal]

Rosa moment

[hardy fog]

Dark cooking 🍽️looking forward to more

[lean cove]

About to get started on this event. Here are all my grass pairs. What can I do?

[hardy fog]

Check out couple of pinned teams to start with. And draft something

You can check Jo’s roster in pinned might be similar without ss Acerola

[lean cove]

Apparently anyone who's anyone pulled Celebi. I'd also like to avoid off-typing anything either, regardless of how busted the Neo Kanto pairs are.

[hardy fog]

Most of the tank choice are similar for the stages so that’s a good place to start

[lean cove]

If we're starting with support/tanks, I already can't do the top 3
I may have to give up a S-ranked support on one of the battles, so I'm thinking:
Ramos: Blue/Exeggutor
Erika: Shauna/Chesnaught
Mallow: Dawn/Torterra
Gardenia: Red/Venusaur (?)
Cilan: Lyra/Meganium

[cunning shore]

Lyra

Can't tank for shit

She's mostly good as a secondary tank

That puts up light screen

[lean cove]

[cunning shore]

Use her vs ramos as cilan is physical

[lean cove]

I should say, I haven't actually tried any of the battles yet.

[hardy fog]

The reason why Lyra goes to Ramos by default is due to light screen. Maybe go to Erika as second support.

Blue would go well last stage

If no other tanks you might want to put lBlue in gardenia or Mallow and put barry last stage 😂

At least he will get sinnoh buffs from adaman

[thorny grove]

Hey what are some general teams or tips for this HSE?

These are all my grass units. Fell free to @ me if you got any teams or tips

[stark eagle]

You chan
There are a lot of clears
Pick a team you like and go try, be sure to read the match details to be better prepared

Monke moment

[cyan tusk]

569K #1

[quaint inlet]

good offtype to beat cilan with?

[hardy fog]

How 😂

Is

That

Possible

That means they have 3 teams on 950-1000 str triple grass

[true sparrow]

4

[mortal timber]

Fighting guard or ghost guard on godcerola Vs mallow?

Bringing Selene to peak here, don't mind me

[hardy fog]

Runner you know their teams?

[hardy fog]

What str?

[mortal timber]

600

[true sparrow]

No, but I can think of the basic conditions to achieve that

[hardy fog]

I tried ghost guard. Inferior to vigilance for this stage

The biggest pain rng is the tm mpr random crit drain punch or shackle its over 🥹

I ran selene as well gave her some stage time

Because I got no one else...

[true sparrow]

You need a big nuker and debuffer/interference in each team to achieve very high point, so SS Lyra, Adaman, SC Rosa and SS Leaf need to be in a team each

Erika I assume is the weaker point since you cannot apply any interference

Which places Adaman against Mallow since he's the only physical nuker.

[hardy fog]

Dang so we all doing it wrong with Adaman on cilan 😂

Here I am slaving away at 860 cilan

[true sparrow]

Well it's not wrong, it's just we don't have all units, but if you do you should be able to achieve his points.

Not effortless of course

[forest ferry]

I think adaman vs cilan is still better than mallow atleast

Coz mallow has x def all

Think ssLyra goes to mallow with another strong dps

[true sparrow]

You need a tech nuker

[forest ferry]

If anything adaman loses bulk of his performance in all stages except cilan in that case

[true sparrow]

Lyra cannot nuke vs mallow

Very much disagree, cilan is not even fully physical, while against Mallow Adaman has guard and master passive to further sustain fully physical that is Mallow

[forest ferry]

Lyra has master passive as well.....

5/5 victor gives atk down

Ez duo

For mallow

It's just nobody here has 5/5 victor

[true sparrow]

You're really underestimating the huge difference that is a tech nuke here

[forest ferry]

Lyra has powerplay tho

[true sparrow]

She cannot nuke vs Mallow

Her sync is special

[forest ferry]

Oh wait

It's not physical?

Wtf

I am a dumbass

[true sparrow]

Maybe if you can keep sun Mallow can compete nuke wise

Which mandates Mallow with Bulu at the very least

[forest ferry]

I tried mallow, bulu, egg terrain once

It was comfy with almost full HP on tean

But mallow damage is low

It was only 450 str tho and 71k pts

She can push a bit more but it'll most likely need confusion rng and another strong dps to assist

[acoustic tendon]

anyone know if bicio had sick skill gear for their 860 str cilan clear? been trying for a bit and I'm a little worried I won't have enough damage

[haughty haven]

Wish Ramos only uses 1 Surf or 0 Surf

[hardy fog]

He has close to max stats not much useful passive

[acoustic tendon]

is 80 max on skill gear?

[hardy fog]

You need to run the flinch like you run the sleep on ramos

So you get close to 1 sync cycle after enemy sync

[acoustic tendon]

yeah I've been following pykuo's vid but I'm getting unlucky with flinch/confuse towards the end so blue faints. just gotta keep goin

[acoustic tendon]

oo okay, so you're definitely tankier but I think I might still be able to clear it

[hardy fog]

Eh I'll just settle for 840 lol the dmg is so much more manageable. Been doing 880 860 for hours trying to get 5 syncs before enemy 2nd sync. It's reaaaaally hard 😂

Safe to say my flinch game is so much better now lol. Feelin like Naruto figuring out how to use Raesengan properly.

[haughty haven]

Damn, you are so close to bypass me

[hardy fog]

Haha nah can't get what I get without you sharing

Which score have you been improving?

[haughty haven]

Not much, i just play like 30minutes lol

Push Ramos and Cilan a little bit

[sullen pier]

[hardy fog]

You think Ramos can do 600?

[haughty haven]

Ofc

[hardy fog]

If I get mix red I will reset Ramos and Gardenia

[haughty haven]

At 570 Str i already killed Side in 3 Sync

[hardy fog]

If no then just leave everything lol

[haughty haven]

30% mpr suck

And 1 use move has 30% mpr more suck

[hardy fog]

O you doing Mallow?

[haughty haven]

Yes

[hardy fog]

Yes thats the hardest part of the run

She is quite straight forward otherwise

[quaint inlet]

Need like 36k pts if possible

Need help on last one in grass hs

[spark thistle]

what is the grid you use for this team?

[haughty haven]

Which one ?

[spark thistle]

against gardenia. sorry for not stating that clearly.

[graceful pike]

Two Rosas are better than one

[graceful pike]

Damn you gonna beat me at this rate

[haughty haven]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=000201025100&s0=3&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=13010602&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFCBodICMlJicqKy0uLw&v1=000000000300&s1=5&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13010602&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFCQoNDg8RExUYLg&v2=011600038900&s2=5&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=18040502&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFBgcICQoLDA0ODxARGg

[haughty haven]

What, how

[graceful pike]

You are literally 4k away

[haughty haven]

But almost all my team is in limit rn

I dont have Type Guard cookie

[graceful pike]

You might limit break idk

[spark thistle]

thanks a lot🫡

[graceful pike]

Damn

We got this sticker when

It's too funny

[haughty haven]

[graceful pike]

Onw to calculate who should I go back to coping with

I mean

If i get better gear then

Honestly if Ramos uses 0 or just 1 surf

And I get full light screen

Maybe 600

But

@haughty haven strength for Cilan?

[haughty haven]

860 Str

[spark thistle]

can you also provide me the sync grid of the team against cilan? your recommendation for the previous team is amazing i would basically settle for 200 less or so

[haughty haven]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=000802047000&s0=5&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=13016303&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFBgcKCwwODxAjJCUnKi0&v1=028400047000&s1=3&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13016303&t1=4444&g1=AAECAwQFBggVFh0gIiMlJyot&v2=002100010300&s2=5&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=24010501&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFBgcJDA8QGhweISQmKCo

Try to flinch Ludicolo

[mortal timber]

And here I thought that 800 with Adam Erika was already a miracle hahah

[haughty haven]

It can go higher

[mortal timber]

A

[haughty haven]

This team can kill Mid before 2nd Sync at 900str

[mortal timber]

A

[haughty haven]

But how L Blue survive is a different story

[mortal timber]

You are actually using critconfuse?

You really want to torture yourself

And so do i

[haughty haven]

I dropped confusion actually

[mortal timber]

Oh phew haha

[haughty haven]

I need more 30% Sync CD from Erika lol

[graceful pike]

Smart

[cyan tusk]

Go do coop villa

[haughty haven]

I tried

[mortal timber]

Pulled a miraculous clear with confusion with Selene rn

[haughty haven]

Still 0

[mortal timber]

Don't wanna mess with it anymore

[cyan tusk]

Me too

[haughty haven]

Now i just try to go higher on Mallow Stage

[mortal timber]

The fact I am up there with such sus teams is ridiculous

Lyra tank with no debuffers is smth I would never wish to anyone

[haughty haven]

But i just so close to win

Imagine i can Sync here

This happen like 3 times already

[mortal timber]

Stage over if you sync

[haughty haven]

[mortal timber]

So Cilan can go that higher from the 800 I am rn

This is very good to hear

This means with the trash can on wheels I have on the other teams I might reach again 400k out of nowhere

[haughty haven]

And if you know what to do, it very simple if 60% flinch happen

[mortal timber]

I might need your assistance later on then

[haughty haven]

When do you free ?

[mortal timber]

Uhm very soon

[haughty haven]

[mortal timber]

Wbu? Busy day?

[haughty haven]

It is 8pm for me rn

So i’m free

[mortal timber]

Hmm

Ah oke

Gimme some mins bud

Turning on pc

[mortal timber]

k i am in

[haughty haven]

Omw

[acoustic tendon]

what did you replace it with? confusion don’t proc for me anyway

[haughty haven]

Just all for Sync dmg

[outer whale]

So just to confirm something.

Flinching does not use Ramos's Surf usage.

[main pulsar]

Do you need 3/5 Rosa?

[chilly flame]

Idk how ur Sonia lives the second sync

Mine is just getting nuked

Is it a skill gear issue

[haughty haven]

Maybe

My gear gives 150HP/45Def @chilly flame

[chilly flame]

Yea that’s it

Probably

[outer whale]

That's enough rage for today.

[magic sandal]

yes

[main pulsar]

o

[cunning shore]

Any breaking runs boys?

[mortal timber]

@haughty haven whenever you wake up, 900 str just done

I got such a perfect run even lodge blue lived

[hardy fog]

Nice improvements sir

[hardy fog]

Yea I did 840 Cilan 😂 Blaze did it before though

At least you will crack 430k if you do it

[cunning shore]

lazy

[hardy fog]

@mortal timber did it with Erika at 900 lol must have gotten all bullet seeds procs

[mortal timber]

Not only that

Bullet seed procs were two hits only twice in a row

Allowing me to clean sweep without even another sync, just dmg

Blue flinched again

Everything went so smooth

[hardy fog]

Yea uber run bro grats. You have to get your flinch queues on point as well 👌

[mortal timber]

After 3 hours of tries finally

But even when I lost I wasn't even mad or smth cuz it was clear that it was somewhat doable

All I needed was bullet seed at minimum

The last flinch was just a bonus

[hardy fog]

Yea I did more than 3 hrs for 880 😂 not enough dmg for my comp though

Tbh skill issues if I can get 5 syncs before 2 enemy sync I can do it

[mortal timber]

I had no idea 900 with SS Erika was doable till Mr pykuo told me about it

[hardy fog]

Haha well if it wasn't pykuo I don't think I would hit 400k

[mortal timber]

[hardy fog]

https://tenor.com/view/godfather-face-not-impressed-gif-16109525

That's actually pykuo

Family pic before these guys climb again 🥹

Ramos 550
Erika 900
Mallow 725
Gardenia 870
Cilan 840

[ornate turret]

Just saw the new #1 583k

[hardy fog]

So def all 5 stages 950 str+

[hollow prism]

FUCK YOU RAMOS

500K WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

@chilly flame IM DONE IM DONE IM DONE IM DONE IM DONE

@onyx crystal
750 Ramos
1000 Erika
750 Mallow
1000 Gardenia
850 Cilan

[chilly flame]

And you didn’t fucking stream it

[hollow prism]

I got it recorded

[chilly flame]

Imma need that

[hardy fog]

Well played brother 👏👏

Grats

[hollow prism]

I’m probably making a video going over the HS actually, i’m not sure yet

[hardy fog]

100k Ramos is

[hollow prism]

Might redo the stages I don’t have the replay for

Except erika

[chilly flame]

Erika aint that bad

With that team

[hollow prism]

I missed Bicio by like 250 points

I’m Master 6 rn

[chilly flame]

I feel like you can push mallow higher

[hollow prism]

Yeah easily

And i probably will push her and Gardenia

[mortal timber]

Gonna compile the form hopefully only once this time

Insane

[cyan tusk]

Good job!!

[hollow prism]

I’m still coming for your score

[mortal timber]

I’ll give you a reason then

[hollow prism]

i’m gonna lose

[mortal timber]

Wait a sec eh

[cyan tusk]

Bring it on

[hollow prism]

[cyan tusk]

Fun fact I actually have reset 3 run out of 5

[mortal timber]

When I compile the form no need to ping sages right?

Just have to send the screen

[hollow prism]

I’m probably going to drop short by change because all of my stages have like 300 less than you

I probably have to do a higher score than you on Mallow to tip that

[cyan tusk]

Wait but those are my teams

[hollow prism]

I WAS PLANNING ON THE EXACT SAME SETUP

[cyan tusk]

[hollow prism]

You beat me to the clears

[cyan tusk]

And still we don’t know what #1 is cooking

[hollow prism]

WHAT THE FUCK IS 589k?!

[cyan tusk]

Better, what he/she has cooked

[hollow prism]

They have to have a 1000 Erika team

There’s no way

[cyan tusk]

Also still missing enigma, he’s delivering the whole Christmas lunch

[hollow prism]

Runner too where is he

[cyan tusk]

Around 20ish

[hollow prism]

Oh i just saw

[cyan tusk]

They’re not using ncleaf

For sure

[hollow prism]

I don’t even think it’s physically possible for them to be offtyping at all with 589k

[cyan tusk]

Also the 1000 strength Cilan could be using lodge blue / Adaman/ 5/5 Victor

Imo

[hollow prism]

Oh is that actually 1000

But do you think NCLeaf HSyca and SSErika can still do 1000?

[cyan tusk]

Yes

[hollow prism]

Hm

Let me fix mallow first and see if we can cook

[cyan tusk]

Do you have 5/5 Victor?

[hollow prism]

No

4/5

[cyan tusk]

Overwhelm is 4/5?

[hollow prism]

Lemme check

[mortal timber]

Y’all remember when I said it was near impossible for me this time around?
Well… will see in the next 7 days.
For now I am submitting this!

Ramos: STR 414
Erika: STR 800
Mallow: STR 570
Gardenia: STR 460
Cilan: STR 900

Crossing fingers! 🍀

[cyan tusk]

Uh 900k Cilan is so good man

[hollow prism]

Yes I have Overwhelm

[cyan tusk]

Mine is 860 with same team

[cyan tusk]

Well now you have to overcome my score

[hollow prism]

Oh shit do you not have 4/5 Victor

[hardy fog]

Dang brah that is a sexy score for Cilan

[cyan tusk]

Nope only 3/5

[hollow prism]

What’s the grid for Victor on the Cilan team

[cyan tusk]

I’m not committing gems or candies on him

[hollow prism]

I literally never considered Overwhelm

But i guess Adaman makes Twofer a non necessity

[mortal timber]

Never thought it was possible, took a lot of resets but then I got an insane run

Where even blue was alive

[hollow prism]

OH NO I see why this is 1000 now

Wait that’s probably not even that hard

[cyan tusk]

I’d go for this

Or maybe this?

[cyan tusk]

Confusion procs ftw

[mortal timber]

No confusion

[hardy fog]

Bullet seed is also win

[mortal timber]

Bullet seed and flinch

That was it

[hardy fog]

And propulsion procs would make big diff

Since so lblue stops quad

[cyan tusk]

There’s no bullet seed in the Cilan team

[mortal timber]

Yup

[hollow prism]

What about this?

[mortal timber]

Simisage

[hollow prism]

Wait for Max move until after the last sync?

[cyan tusk]

You don’t need critical eye, there’s blue tm for the +1

[hardy fog]

What's the move that does few hits and little dmg if no crit

[cyan tusk]

You need

[cyan tusk]

Oh sh*t

[hollow prism]

I’m trying to double Blue TM into 3rd on Victor to not have to dire hit at all

[cyan tusk]

Ok im just so over this hse i cannot even think of it

[cyan tusk]

100 bp on max move is a lot to miss

[mortal timber]

Oh dw I am probably done considering these are my best pairs but

[cyan tusk]

Especially with -4 def double rebuff sides

[hollow prism]

Alright

[mortal timber]

Happy that I am one of the few discovering the forbidden techniques of 900 str

[hollow prism]

Uh actually i can’t get it

[cyan tusk]

Also, bringing Victor to round 5 means you need to score better on Erika without ncleaf

[hollow prism]

Nah i’m planning HSyca NCLeaf SS Erika

And i’m just hoping that can 1000

[cyan tusk]

Yes but you are only increasing Cilan

[hollow prism]

This would be after I improve Mallow first

Then after that i’m resetting both and doing Erika first to see if i can get at least 82.5k to check if it’s viable

Cilan will be the last stage I go back to, unless I want to top off the Gardenia stage

[cyan tusk]

Wait but the onyx bro got dethroned by the gladion guy

[hollow prism]

Yeah

The JP players going crazy this HS

[rough forum]

https://vxtwitter.com/potechiDSlove/status/1746894666979848387?t=XcdxuHNC-4OOI4rvAxFs-Q&s=19

Oh hey

#1 spotted

[cyan tusk]

Another one not posting teams lol

[hardy fog]

Far out it’s another person lol

[onyx crystal]

Okay, next time just use the pinned form.

[outer whale]

I think this High Score event has started to make all my 5 Star Powerups poof..... I have just 100 left

I initially had about 200+

[mental blade]

Bonus for bringing Sun, huh...
How many grass-type sun summoners were there, again? I'm seeing Adaman, Lyra, and SSErika in my roster but wondering if I'm forgetting any that I might have

[hollow prism]

Nope

The only 4 on types are Adaman SS Erika Lyra and SS Acerola

[mental blade]

Got it, and I didn't get SS 'rola, so all of mine are accounted for. Thanks. Back to brainstorming...

[oak fulcrum]

shuffled some things around and realized I really like 750 strength for no reason whatsoever (393k total)

[hardy fog]

Lol solid run!

[hollow prism]

That’s 393k?

[oak fulcrum]

yep 393.5k

400k is reachable with an EX SS Leaf

[hardy fog]

That mallow is not 750 though 😂

[oak fulcrum]

nope but the other 4 are

[hardy fog]

Just do 850 Cilan

[oak fulcrum]

I don't know if I have the gear for that, plus Ramos can go up to 800 if I can end with the entire team at full hp at 750

[hardy fog]

Yea ok ex ss leaf make sense too

Jo and blaze did 70k Lyra ss leaf Rosa

[oak fulcrum]

hm I could also try that if that works out better trading out blue and strength points for a 3x multiplier instead

[hardy fog]

Ramos is less enjoyable grind than Cilan though. Flinch is at least satisfying to see

[mental blade]

Brainstorming out loud, unsubtly hoping for suggestions

Vs Ramos: Adaman(1/5), ???, ???
Vs Erika: Mix Red(1/5), ???, ???
Vs Mallow: Selene(5/5), Dawn(5/5), ???
Vs Gardenia: SSLyra(1/5), Shauna(1/5), ???
Vs Cilan: SSErika(5/5), OG Erika(5/5), ???

Remaining pairs: BP Barry(3/5), Rosa(3/5), Ramos(5/5), Brendan(5/5), Gardenia(5/5), Lyra(5/5), SSLeaf(1/5), Mallow(5/5), BP Erika(3/5), Lodge Blue(3/5), Lodge Sycamore(5/5)

Target score: 3600+ pts minimum per round for a "comfy" 180k

Could swap the tanks for SSLyra and Selene, since it occurs to me Selene needs help getting the last stack of crit for Spirit Shackle

Lyra needs to go somewhere (vs Erika for Solar Shield?) as my third and final ontype sun source

[atomic rain]

if its only for 180k you could probabkly just throw whatever for adaman and mix red teams

[mental blade]

They're that strong here, huh

[atomic rain]

well

180k isnt hard

lol

and yes they are very good here

you could run an off type on every team and could still get 180k easily

[mental blade]

I'll keep it in mind as a fallback plan

Then let's focus on the other three teams for now, I suppose

[atomic rain]

ss lyra definitely wants another damage dealer

cuz her gimmick is shut down very hard

[mental blade]

Resilience, ye

[atomic rain]

i think brendan can work since shauna is +1 crit and leaf storm hits hard

[mental blade]

Thinking... he does have self-speed buffs somewhere in his grid, I think, so that just might work. I'll pencil him in

[atomic rain]

amped up 1

[mental blade]

Good, I was worried it'd be unreliable ol' Fast Track

Amped Up can be counted on

[atomic rain]

maybe lyra on ss erika team cuz i think cilan is mostly special but i could be wrong

and solarize

[mental blade]

Little uncomfortable putting two suns on one team due to the score bonus, but you did point out 180k isn't so hard to reach anyways

[atomic rain]

oh wait right

i dont know any other place to put lyra though is the thing

[mental blade]

Yeah, it's a problem. So many sun synergies but they gotta split up

[atomic rain]

ramos is already using adaman

maybe selene team with double strike instead of dawn?

brendan has charging sun 5

but thats only for one cycle

lyra does do speed though so inertia nuke is better

[hardy fog]

If you create 2 op teams and get 70k which would be relatively easy with mix red and adaman then the rest is breeze

Sun will then become irrelevant😂

[mortal timber]

You go buddy

[mental blade]

Even with them at 1/5?

[atomic rain]

well

adaman has perma sun and effectively permanent terrain cuz of -2 aoe rebuff

and mixed red has terrain and very good aoe dps

so yeah

even at base they're good

might need a nuker though for both since they are lacking multipliers

[mental blade]

So slap a random tank and a random cheerleader in with each and it's good, huh

Maybe Adaman will get... BP Barry as the support, and Ramos for limited sleep shenanigans to buy a few turns until Resilience starts kicking in
Red will get... Rosa as the support, aaaaaand... uh, Mallow has self Speed buffs to try carrying the gauge, I guess

[atomic rain]

she has no crit so shes kinda doing shit

would rather use her on adaman as a nuke

cuz she has a solid one

[hardy fog]

Yeap ss Erika and adaman ex 1/5 should hit 70k

[mental blade]

Mallow has crit. She has no Atk

[mental blade]

With few/no resets? Which opponent?

[hardy fog]

Cilan

Flinch gaming

[mental blade]

Does... does that mean also SSLyra

Oh, maybe Lodge Blue?

[atomic rain]

oh i forgor

thought it was no atk and crit which actually is pretty depressing

[mental blade]

I was just going to use her as a partial battery gauge for Red since she has self Speed

Rosa can't Energize forever (at least, I don't have the patience for that many resets)

Kind of suspect her "now I'm feeling even more energized" Neo Champ level-up quote is a reference to that move

I could try fitting Lodge Blue onto whichever team she ends up on, to give her the Atk and last stack of crit

Or I can just put her wherever Shauna ends up.

Hm... the lack of nuke on Red's team is a concern when there's a score thingie for largest single hit

[mental blade]

I guess the 2x70k plan would have Mix Red go to the other fight he's rated S against... Gardenia. Maybe with SSLyra since she's an S there too?

...Don't tell me the best nuker for that team would be Dawn

[hardy fog]

Dawn mix red ss Lyra. 70k

[mental blade]

Dayum, really?

Still with few/no resets?

[hardy fog]

Yea that’s 120k if you candy

[mental blade]

I could candy, but I have commitment issues

[hardy fog]

Flinch is op get you 2-3 turns ahead

Lblue a little reset 60%

Ss Lyra…

[mental blade]

100%

[hardy fog]

Adaman candy is not bad since you get perm lg solo

[mental blade]

I think I'll change gears for the 2x 70k plan, then, and open up the other three rounds for the possibility of having an offtype member each

Was the Grass Terrain team fighting Gardenia?

How much Strength should I be using for 70k?

[hardy fog]

It’s about 450-500

Watch this flinch seq. Pykuo is 2 turns ahead by enemy 1st sync https://youtu.be/9tgy6Qj8Shk?si=Yzu9Dwkob8WGN4_A

[mental blade]

I have no idea what I'm doing.

I know the enemy turn order, it looks the same as in CSMM. But the first sync is still fatal.
I think a Surf slipped through

[true sparrow]

their sync shouldn't be that problematic, but if you get hit by any of the special aoe I would reset

[mental blade]

Ugh, this is already kind of reset-heavy hoping for flinchable attacks and flinch procs to land on them

[true sparrow]

it looks like your sides were already pretty worn out, which shouldn't be the case in general

[mental blade]

Maybe I should've asked what constitutes "low resets" for this context

[true sparrow]

if you only want the 180k only use tanks that can take both hits be it grass or not

and you should remove a lot the reset of it

[mental blade]

Turns out I just had the Strength set too high (I started at 600+ before getting the recommendation for 450). Turning it down led to a win on my very next try. Thanks.

Next is the grass terrain team vs Gardy, yeah? Let's see how that goes at 450 as well

I... Am uncertain of the optimal opener for this team, actually. Going to wing it while hoping someone chimes in

[hardy fog]

Ss Lyra last always then you are sweet

[mental blade]

I don't think I did it correctly but this is probably close enough

[hardy fog]

It’s prob just your damage output

Since that gives extra points. Adaman ss Erika puts out a lot more lol

Also sun

3k

[haughty haven]

Congrats

[mortal timber]

Chapeau to you

All thanks to your suggestion this is reality

[atomic rain]

speaking of what should i do for 180k

i know 3/5 acerola is really good but no dps and too many sun abusers

[mortal timber]

Also wanna laugh a bit with me?
Not only the good run had good flinches but also I got only bullet seed with only TWO HITS

So Lodge Blue at the end of the battle was still alive

[cunning shore]

You shouldn't be spending your luck like that

Save some of it goddammit

[mortal timber]

Nah i miss 7 units, it's deserved

[atomic rain]

should i just do 2 grass 1 off type whatever

16 units does not give me a lot of flexibility

[cunning shore]

What's your roster like?

You shared before?

Oh

I am blind

[cunning shore]

.

You probably will need to 2 + 1 off type on one stage

[atomic rain]

i know selene is good for mallow and ss acerola can go basically anywhere

[cunning shore]

Got NC Leaf?

[atomic rain]

besides that im dumbfounded

[atomic rain]

no

[cunning shore]

180k means you want around 150-300-ish str on each stage
Use core dps and try to keep them alive with supports till you win
Sycamore vs Ramos
Brendan vs Erika?
Selene vs Mallow
Bulu with SS Erika and probably your highest score among the bunch vs either Cilan or Gardenia.
Then throw everything you have left at the last one (probably with an offtype)

It's really rough since you have literally 1 limited unit 😅

[atomic rain]

i never felt like pulling for dps besides adaman

cuz brendan and erika are very good as is

[cunning shore]

Erika needs perma sun

Brendan needs innate dauntless

[hardy fog]

Ramos - Rosa Ramos sycamore
Erika - Shauna SS Erika Lyra
Mallow - mallow Ss Acerola egg
Gardenia - dawn selene egg
Cilan - Brendan Lblue Barry

Looks like you got help already was typing this but had to go

Mallow sucks without buffs and sun so need Acerola hence moved Selene somewhere else

[atomic rain]

why mallow vs herself

isnt selene better cuz she has on type

[cunning shore]

Your true friends with all strikers is their AoE Nukes

I think mallow is one of the stages that are weather and terrain friendly?

[mental blade]

Here, the results of the dual 70k method. This is actually Rank 1733

Also jebus, Sycamore's Bulbasaur is glassy

[atomic rain]

yknow

[hardy fog]

Hear me out.
Dawn got vigilance already so good for sure crit.
Ss Acerola needs to go with mallow. For buffs and sun. Only 1 full nuke avail.

If you want you can swap those 2 teams around. So mallow/ace go to gardenia. Dawn Selene to mallow

[atomic rain]

wouldnt ny wallace be really good for hs rerun

[mental blade]

Thanks for the advice, everyone. Off to go bang my head against Sinnoh CSMM...

[hardy fog]

With solid support prob 1000 str run 😂

[tiny ore]

Im kinda shocks by how good rosa has been as a tank

W/ crit support ofc

[main pulsar]

i am sadly not crazy enough to candy her

[tiny ore]

shes in the master day shop iirc

but thats after hs ends

[magic sandal]

again?

[tiny ore]

yes

[main pulsar]

That’s taunting

Thanks Dena

Arses

[magic sandal]

whelp guess i'm getting 5/5

wanted a Cheren dupe lowkey

[chilly kayak]

they cycle through them, it's only 4

[magic sandal]

makes sense

[main pulsar]

Realistically rosas the best one to get 3/5 I think

[hollow prism]

Also using Rosa sounds awful

[main pulsar]

But you already have it so rip

[magic sandal]

i used Rosa it wasn't that bad

[main pulsar]

Rosa would be nice if mine had master healer

[hollow prism]

Where would you use her and for what

[main pulsar]

Ugh

[magic sandal]

I used her for Ramos cause i don't have any of the fancy spdef tanks

I got like 81k

[hollow prism]

Oh sure ig

[main pulsar]

What strength?

[magic sandal]

550, i can probably do 575 but I want to do the other stages first

[hollow prism]

That’s actually a really good F2P niche

[main pulsar]

Hm

I see

[magic sandal]

lemme find the image

[main pulsar]

Well I can’t do it cuz duh

[main pulsar]

It’s just I’m wondering why my Rosa can’t go higher even with blue

[chilly flame]

2/5 soon? 👀

[magic sandal]

i'm working on Erika 👀

[main pulsar]

2?

[chilly flame]

[tiny ore]

I cant remember if cheren or acerola are next for masters day

[magic sandal]

Cheren was 3rd

iirc

so Rosa -> Ace -> Cheren -> Calem

actually wait he might've been 2nd, hmm

[main pulsar]

does calem get anything worthwhile

[magic sandal]

at 3/5 he can nuke

[main pulsar]

Hm

So they just become meh

All 4 of ‘em

[magic sandal]

i mean yeah

[main pulsar]

Sad

[tiny ore]

rosas 3/5 isnt bad

MH2 is solid for tanking in HS and LG

[shy flower]

Rosa also gets the funny supp nuke with double SF5

[magic sandal]

the funny nuke ideas vanish when you see her SpA

[shy flower]

I've done it before! She and Lyra handled 2k5 with SS Erika just providing sun

[magic sandal]

well if you want a SF Grass support nuker Lyra is eons better

[shy flower]

This is true

Rosa still does decent ish damage with Giga Drain and MH 2 puts in work

[magic sandal]

i'm not denying that, i'm a big rosa user

[shy flower]

I do wish her SpA were higher so her nuke could be more funny

[main pulsar]

Her special attack isn’t that low is it

She’s a support after all

[magic sandal]

it's like 120

[main pulsar]

Wot

[magic sandal]

150 when EX

[main pulsar]

Oh it’s 160

That’s

A lot lower than I expected

Thought it was at least 200

[shy flower]

Lyra's is 281 at 5/5 EX

[magic sandal]

with gears, grids and theme skills you can bring it upto 250-260 but that's the hard limit

the absolute highest I could ever see her having is 300

[shy flower]

Rosa PB when

[magic sandal]

a Rosa PB would let me do soooooooo many more LG solos

[main pulsar]

When Dena decides that making old units is genuinely only a good thing

[shy flower]

Give her SF 9, +80 SpA, and PF9 plz

[magic sandal]

SF wouldn't do her any good

she has it yes but she can't set sun

[main pulsar]

I’d like time to energize +2 +2

Defenses

[shy flower]

I want the funny nuke memes though

[main pulsar]

To all

[magic sandal]

just use Lyra smh

she's right there

[shy flower]

I do use Lyra!

[main pulsar]

Maybe critical if we’re feeling spicy