High Score

[cyan tusk]

Yes Lyra doesn’t make any sense on the Erika team

[hardy fog]

I thought you throwing her out lmao

I thought about putting ss leaf and ss Lyra together but feel like I’m wasting the Debuffs

Could spread the love

[cyan tusk]

There’s a lot of debuffing going around actually

[hardy fog]

Acerola is awkward for people who don’t got victor and sc sonia. Since every other physical syner has sun as well. Ie adaman sserika

[cyan tusk]

I may be swapping SSLeaf for TL blue and adding another dps instead of SSLeaf in the gardenia team

[hardy fog]

But I felt like those are a perfect match. Ace and Sonia

[cyan tusk]

But this does not avoid the missing mc theme skill on SSLeaf

another swap could be Victor for TL blue and adding something like Brendan on Cilan

[hardy fog]

No gauge issue with Victor and Sc Sonia? Fat gauge moves

[cyan tusk]

Rolling tm mprs on bulurola

Btw I’m just fine tuning and throwing ideas rn

[hardy fog]

Yea ik

I think I want to make ss leaf nuke though so she needs the right buffer

[cyan tusk]

Im going to use her for dps/healing/debuff

[hardy fog]

Fair enough your roster is stacked

[cyan tusk]

And yes she can do it all

[hardy fog]

I have a feeling she could do more than ss Erika vs Ramos

Ie sac the sun for higher str and Debuff

I’m going change a few things base on yours. Main one is swap Shauna and Acerola around. Put adaman against Cilan

[cyan tusk]

Consider my Vmallow being 3/5 debuffs both atk, and SCRosa also debuffs sp atk so using SSLeaf there is redundant

[hardy fog]

O vMallow does Debuff attack as well 😂gg

[outer whale]

Hear me out. Mallow.

[hardy fog]

listening

lol

[outer whale]

Attack debuffs with trop kick, physical sync nuker with lowered attack, and most importantly. has solar flare 5.

so GT + Pecking Order + Solar flare 5.

Tapu Bulu fixes Mallow's slow buffs

Hear me out now @hardy fog

or you can switch power posture with overwhelm 9 for -2 Atk debuff for the sync nuke

[hardy fog]

Don’t know bro. Her ex sync is less dmg than Brendan’s lol

Her multipliers are good but base dmg pretty av

[outer whale]

Mallow's first sync with all multipliers applied

if you can add a -1 rebuff, that can get to 45kish on first sync

also keep in mind, we gotta work with what we got in this event if we want max points.

also keep in mind, this is without defense debuffs

[shy flower]

Unless I'm doing something wrong, that's way better than Brendan's

[outer whale]

let me do brendans

[sturdy glen]

ofc she's a tech

[shy flower]

It was more in response to this comment

[outer whale]

first sync. with GT, and Max Spatk

EXed too

Mallow does much more sync damage overall. but Brendan can do AOE

granted this is specifically with Tapu Bulu partner in mind.

TL:DR. Mallow with Tapu Bulu is not a bad idea tbh

[sullen pier]

im gonna use Mallow with Acerola too

[hardy fog]

I must have left something out

Surely you have Sonia Tsareena Gak

[outer whale]

Let.
Me.
Cook.

[hardy fog]

pulling out the ramos as well

[outer whale]

DC2 on ramos + DC3 on bullet seed for def debuffs.

DCs stack so potential -2 defense on bullet seed

I may switch out no quarter on Tapu Bulu for 100% healing in GT

similar to SSMorty

[sullen pier]

depends on the stage, i would pick Acerola's TM MPR

that team doesnt have much defensive buffs

[outer whale]

Gardenia or Mallow

[sullen pier]

Mallow's sync is physical right?

oh both are physical

[outer whale]

yes

[sullen pier]

so yeah TM MPR is ideal

+2 Def is not enough to tank sync at higher strength

[cyan tusk]

That’s not bad at all, heavy rng when the mid is out btw

[sullen pier]

can pick SHY5 on Mallow's grid to increase confusion hit chance

[sturdy glen]

why? confusion + atk debuffs are not good enough?

[cyan tusk]

Confusion RNG actually

[outer whale]

@sullen pier this is some weird cooking ingredients you got.

[outer whale]

why bother with RNG when

[hardy fog]

bicio loves rng

[outer whale]

debating whether or not to keep Green thumb for FA4

[hardy fog]

alright Link you've convinced me Mallow looks good there 😂

Brendan can’t use leafstorm

[sullen pier]

personally i would pick heal on terrain tile instead of Shielded~~ and reset for double TM MPR~~

[sullen pier]

why

Leaf Storm is always better than Bullet Seed

even with 10 PMUN stacks

[outer whale]

It's bad for Mallow

[hardy fog]

We are against mallow

[outer whale]

the Mallow battle i mean

[sullen pier]

ah

[outer whale]

it's fine for Gardenia tho

[sullen pier]

i thought we were talking about Gardenia smh

[sturdy glen]

i dont see the issue...
just rng challenge it

[sturdy glen]

why?

[outer whale]

Gardenia doesn't have Sentry Entry 3

Mallow does

so Brendan can leaf storm Gardenia up

[hardy fog]

you kinda want GT in Gardenia

so you are left with 2 options

SS Lyra

or Mix Red

[outer whale]

SSLyra it is.

[sturdy glen]

no (?)

[hardy fog]

SS Lyra and Brendan would mean you got no sun

which is fine I guess

[outer whale]

it's the Parameter in HSE, not her passive itself

[hardy fog]

I feel like Brendan is better with Adaman and Shauna vs Cilan.

[outer whale]

Params

1. none
2. No status/interferences
3. Physical damage only
4. -2 move gauge
5. None

1. being Ramos
2. being Erika
3. Mallow
4. Gardenia
5. Cilan

[sturdy glen]

ah the 80% special dmg reduction...
ngl you worded it badly
because sentry entry confused me

[outer whale]

my B

[cyan tusk]

Bicio has to manage the stuff he has already exed and I don’t wanna ex anything else

[hardy fog]

Well you have sc Sonia no need mallow

[cyan tusk]

Yes but ScSonia is slow af

And we don’t have really good speed gras supp

[hardy fog]

Bro you were saying you gonna add victor on that team just like an hour ago 😂😂

[cyan tusk]

Yup but then I realised I cannot live on double twofer 2

On both their grids

[outer whale]

speeding sun Meta real

[hardy fog]

I def want SSA Cynthia for fighting hs ig?

[candid cobalt]

It'll be a while before Fighting HS

[haughty haven]

Ofc

[shy flower]

We've got at least three or four types before we hit Fighting

[hardy fog]

So that’s like 10 months to 1 year 😂Chance of her rerun again?

[haughty haven]

Just get her in 1 muti

[hardy fog]

https://tenor.com/view/rng-gif-25642648

[hardy fog]

Wth lol this is Mallow's sync dmg with 2sync, all debuff, sun, terrain and confusion

[crude iron]

Your… toaster…?????

[sullen pier]

https://tenor.com/view/jared-happy-birthday-gif-22622137

[hardy fog]

Roster

[crude iron]

Was scrolled way up since haven’t tabbed in here in a while

[hardy fog]

Ss Erika with same conditions

[crude iron]

I’m assuming it was an autocorrect moment but how does autocorrect make roster become toaster lmao

[crude iron]

That’s what base atk stat does to someone

[sullen pier]

sadly she is held back by low atk stats

[hardy fog]

Yea weird so on the right team Mallow is punching for more lol

This is brendan same conditions

I'm really confused about Mallow right now. The sync seems too strong

[radiant pebble]

Mallow has a great sync yeah

[hardy fog]

The confusion adds quite a bit on the sync

[sullen pier]

its her innate multiplier

[shy flower]

Mallow's sync gets underestimated a lot because she needs more support

[cyan tusk]

Mallow was the mother of today’s nuke standards back in the days

The og with innate + 150% more via grid

160% actually with the cs1 tile

[cyan tusk]

Fyi: you can pick any grass type pokefair from the select scouts including SsAcerola

[outer whale]

my high scout Master joke wasn't actually far off

[austere dove]

Thoughts ?third one is moves ^ 4

[hollow prism]

:)

[stray dust]

Good for mallow I guess

[hardy fog]

Been looking at the units a bit more closer. Mix red sync doesn't look all that impressive or am I tripping? Seems like it's better to have a tech nuke with him and let him spam aoe.

[hollow prism]

Uh idk about his Sync i haven’t used it yet

But his sync doesn’t need to be busted Frenzy Plant is already broken

[cyan tusk]

Keep in mind he naturally lowers sp def with b move so his nuke has smarty pants + the additional damage from the debuff itself

[sturdy glen]

and the grassy terrain for dynamax/ex effect

[cyan tusk]

All - in - one package

Even if I’m starting to think his own uses of grassy terrain won’t be enough for a stage clear

[hardy fog]

I'm not sure if I missed anything need to double check but with those boost it seems like he is still half of what a tech can do ie ss Lyra

Or ss leaf

[hardy fog]

Not doubting him as a unit. Just his team composition

For this HS

[cyan tusk]

Bc he’s not a tech, he’s a field with striker ex role

So he doesn’t have an innate multiplier

You should compare his nuke with Brendan

[hardy fog]

I mean there are enough units to pair him with a tech nuke

[chilly flame]

Have y’all started planning out teams yet

[royal tiger]

I have o.o

[shy flower]

No

[haughty haven]

Planning ?

[hardy fog]

Im just moving them around to see how they fit so nothing finalized yet. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LT5_eMZG84rf7N_myOPEl3C1XxMhySf2CrvxquIypnA/edit?usp=sharing

Struggling to build a team for ss leaf to nuke in. She needs Lyra or vMallow.

Uncle Barry + Crit would work too

[outer whale]

doing some ranked stuff, but what exactly is SSLeaf doing in the team comp?

support or damage?

[hardy fog]

Was leaning towards Lyra ss morty ss leaf on Ramls. Not 100% sure so won't hurt trying when it drops

I want to spam frenzy plant and sync nuke

[outer whale]

give me like 5 min

@hardy fog what move level?

unless this is for just hypothetical sakes?

[chilly flame]

Just posting that for my own sake

I need to find out where I’m putting MRed

[hardy fog]

5/5

Terrain is abusable on Mallow and Gardenia and I assume it's workable on Cilan like Terrain was workable on Marnie with right timing.

Mallow negates special dmg

So you basically have the other 2.

[sullen pier]

Marnie didnt have any Electric moves except the sync tho

while Cilan has a couple of Grass moves

[hardy fog]

Reset button is real thing 😂

I forgot what stage it was resetting for no thunders before first sync lolol

[hollow prism]

Are any of the 5 battles weak to fire on mid

[shy flower]

Yes, one is

[hardy fog]

Erika

[hollow prism]

Ok that’s why Leaf is being considered then

I see

[shy flower]

Also for sun and main character bonuses

[hollow prism]

Leaf can probably do 1000 on that stage i assume

[shy flower]

And because she's so strong

[hollow prism]

You could get 80k+ for sure

[haughty haven]

NC Leaf and NC Blue just winning

[hollow prism]

That’s exactly where you’d want to be with an offtype especially if it clears up the sun condition

[haughty haven]

But NC Red

[hollow prism]

NcMid

[shy flower]

NC Red stays on the sidelines

Besides we have Mix Red for this one and had SST Red for Elec

[outer whale]

Cilan has grass sync and regular moves

[hardy fog]

What did the sides have again

[outer whale]

side have Water type moves and i forgor the other

[hardy fog]

I’m thinking it’s workable if it’s just the 1 terrain before Adaman’s last nuke

Then you can melt the sides with terrain still up

Ig we will find out if these hypothesis are doable in a week or so 😂

[bold pond]

So we have two without rules this time?

[bold pond]

That's really nice

Hopefully I don't struggle like the last high score

It sounds like Adaman will be good for mallow and celebi for gardenia.

If I'm thinking right

[hollow prism]

Yeah, that’s what i’m thinking rn

And CLeaf on Erika for an offtype looks strong as well

If i figure out how to do 90-100k on Ramos and Cilan this score is going to be crazy

[royal tiger]

this is my current teams o/

[bold pond]

I wonder if special costume Sonia will be helpful anywhere?

[hollow prism]

Probably

[bold pond]

These are what I have for grass, I'm hoping it's enough.

Plus stuff like ss Morty but he won't get any points.

[hardy fog]

Interesting placement for ss Lyra. I guess you are keeping her at 1/5 just for interruption

[hollow prism]

SSLyra needs to go on Mallow or Gardenia probably because I believe those are the stages that can’t abuse the grass terrain

And using Lyra out of grass terrain is like using TRed out of Electric terrain

[hardy fog]

The logic is correct not to use terrain in grass move stages, But if you look at the fire event. Sun was used on every stage (except for Chilli I think) you yourself used sun on fire move stages. @hollow prism

[hollow prism]

Yeah but Lyra CONSTANTLY needs grass is the issue

I was using Sun tactically before I went for sync nukes

[hardy fog]

Why does she need gt all the time

She could live on max speed no?

[hollow prism]

I mean I guess

[chilly flame]

Depending on the team, she’s fine without gt

[cyan tusk]

Consider also giving her grand entry 2 or sharp entry as ls

[cunning shore]

I never plan beforehand

Winging is best

[cyan tusk]

Guess I can stop here about rolling

[hardy fog]

What is the second passive in bracelet

[cyan tusk]

Poison zone

[hardy fog]

I'm sticking with this. I've rolled about 160 feathers for a better pin but no luck.

[slow obsidian]

My current teams (Mix Red-less version/"F2P" friendly version, however one wished to call it)

[royal tiger]

oh you've got a calculator as well o-o/

[slow obsidian]

Yeah... also ignore the funny date format OxO

[outer whale]

Bumping this for anyone new and needs insight on every character for this HSE

[hollow prism]

Are any of the stages pulling a Blaine and doing evasion garbage?

[hardy fog]

Link so are you still cooking up that ss leaf team comp? 😂

[outer whale]

Oh shoot, i actually forgot in regards to that.

Was so focused on new years. My bad

[hardy fog]

Bro np. I really liked your Mallow build so I wanna see what you got for ss leaf haha

[outer whale]

@hardy fog so this is still in the process of cooking, but just to show you the gameplan.

the biggest thing for this is VMallow there to raise SSLeaf's Special attack since she isn't able to raise it herself. She won't be good for Erika, since she needs poison to actually work for her multipliers. HSycamore is there to focus on defenses and survivability on everyone's part. SSLeaf is there to debuff with frenzy plant, and hopefully poison the opponents to get the poison multipliers.

This team can be useful for Ramos.

on who should be tanking, Holiday Sycamore, VMallow can't tank as well due to not being able to Paralyze, however the endurance can be a nice safety net

[hardy fog]

Gg I forgot to tell you I don't got 3/5 Sycamore just 1/5 and no vmallow.

[outer whale]

[cyan tusk]

I honestly would not use Vmallow and Hsyca in the same team

Since they are kinda the best tanks we have along with SSAcerola

[outer whale]

I was tempted on using Rosa instead.

Rosa would be able to handle Move gauge

[hardy fog]

But yea both on same team does seem overkill 😂

[cyan tusk]

Vmallow can debuff both atks

[outer whale]

so can SSLeaf

[cyan tusk]

And why healing sun if the team has no sun

[outer whale]

i didn't even realize healing sun, like i said, i was still in the middle of cooking

[hardy fog]

Looks like low dmg without Powerplay though

[cyan tusk]

I’d say the 3rd could be an additional dps like Brendan for example or somebody to set sun

[outer whale]

Naruto, let me see what units you have exactly, I was just doing general team comps, not your roster specifically

[cyan tusk]

Also Vmallow kinda want to set paralysis, so I’d leave the stage with that status

My 2 cents

[outer whale]

The biggest thing that is needed is SSLeaf needing Spatk buffs in order to actually have a sync nuke

[hardy fog]

I'll candy acerola but not hsyca** 😂

I was thinking.

Ss morty. Lyra. Ss leaf.

Ss morty. Rosa. Ss leaf.

[cyan tusk]

That’s why I might also slap grand entry 2 on her

[cyan tusk]

Lyra 1/5
How

[hardy fog]

Bro don't know she never came

[outer whale]

I can see this but it's going to be VERY RNG heavy.

[hardy fog]

I also have 1/5 aaron

Which makes me sad

[cyan tusk]

But Aaron is kinda newer

[hardy fog]

O both new to me my account is 6 months old

[cyan tusk]

Do you have any johto scout ticket to try for her? Or gen pool tickets

Oh ok I get it

[hardy fog]

Technically a bit older. My account started with both rats and nothing else 😂

[hardy fog]

But but we need powerplay ss leaf!

[outer whale]

you have Power Play?

ok, hold on

[hardy fog]

Yes sir

Impulsive decision 😂

[outer whale]

@hardy fog

this is the best I can do tbh, Relentless is unable to be obtained unless you have another debuffer to get rid of Noxious hit 9

IF you can get a atk/spatk debuffer, use this instead.

[hardy fog]

Ok I’ll give it a crack

[shy flax]

Is it worth getting Victor in the striker select scout to push for a higher rank in High Score? I was going to select Piers otherwise

[sullen kestrel]

Better to choose someone you like than someone you just want to use for a 2 week event

[shy flax]

Fair enough, I have been wanting to get Victor eventually though, but he keeps rerunning at bad times

[hardy fog]

Imo Victor will not make massive diff

This is comparing with vmallow and 3/5 hsycamore

[ornate turret]

if you're not aiming for top 100 don't bother pulling for new units

[slow obsidian]

Already looked into it before the bump

[hollow prism]

If I had to choose between 5/5 on. Either Victor, Leaf, or SS Acerola who do you think would be the best call

Or can we not really tell yet

[sullen pier]

imo, SS Leaf

At 5/5 she gets Noxious Hit and Power Play

[hollow prism]

I was thinking her or Acerola, i saw people looking over how to make her nuke broken above

[sullen pier]

5/5 Acerola doesnt match with 5/5 Leaf, and 5/5 Victor is whatever tbh

[hardy fog]

I reckon just look to do your first run

And then decide

[hollow prism]

Yeah i’m looking at Acerola’s grid and idk what tf i would even grab

[hardy fog]

Team comps changed a lot from week 1 to week 2

In the past

[hollow prism]

Where are most people thinking Victor is going to go? Trying to work out his grid and looks like it’s really Terrain dependent

And also how slow is he to use? I don’t have him yet so idk if there’s a gauge problem

[shy flower]

He is pretty slow

He has BOGO 9 on High Horsepower on his grid, but I don't know if spamming that is a good idea

[hollow prism]

Can we pair him with other fast units to offset it

Or is that just not going to work

[shy flower]

I haven't used him enough to say

[sullen pier]

Im planning to use him with SS Acerola

[hollow prism]

At the risk of mentally damaging myself, couldn’t we just roll lucky on Twofer?

So something like this

[hardy fog]

30% rolls on tm is enough of an rng that makes you want to pull your hairs out haha, not sure how that plays out on a move. I reckon you kinda want 3 Gauge max on the other 2 units ie 2+1 or 3+free

And max speed of course

[topaz sleet]

why are the pins in the settings what is this hell update

anyways

is there no infographic yet

[cyan tusk]

Honestly, no. If it was for overall great units as SSAcerola I’d said yes but Victor has not enough utility outside hse to justify 5K paid imo

[cyan tusk]

5/5 acerola is way too expensive in terms of energy via grid

[outer whale]

still no signs of one yet.

[chilly flame]

Man SS Leaf debuffing attack is looking real nice rn

[hollow prism]

Yeah that was my issue because you absolutely must go Bottom Right no exceptions and that’s half your energy

[cyan tusk]

The only way to avoid the bottom right part is to pair her with
Sslyra but it’s a waste
Mix red but you do not benefit from PMUN a lot
Unironically, support sprigatito is the way to go lmao

[chilly flame]

which stage are you gonna use mix red on

[outer whale]

For me, Gardenia will be the best choice imo as it will negate any potential downside for having GT up

meanwhile, I can only think of Ramos being the best bet for SSLeaf

[cyan tusk]

I’m thinking Erika or gardenia

[hardy fog]

Link just looking at this again. Any reason we are not going for gigadrain Mgr?

You think more Stats is better I'm guessing

[outer whale]

Energy Ball would be more beneficial in the long run because Move gauge will be tight.

it'll especially be more tight when you run out of your TM.

[hardy fog]

Ok awesome!. I'm excited to run that. Although I might free Sycamore and run ss morty instead.

If I could score about 75k on that I'd be happy

Which is like max 😂

[hardy fog]

Here is my 400k roster! We are going to be abusing power play this HS.
In my head this looks easy haha. Let's see how it plays out.
Ramos 75k - SS Morty, Rosa, SS Leaf
Erika 75k - HSycamore, Brendan, NC Leaf
Mallow - 70K - SS Ace, Selene, Mallow
Gardenia 80K - Dawn, Mix Red, SS Lyra (dropping sun)
Cilan 100K - Shauna, Erika, Adaman

[cyan tusk]

I cheer for you for the first 2 clears but I see it very rough actually

Scoring more than 70K offtype is rough

[hardy fog]

Haha yea I know... only got 60k with NC Blue and Ss red last time. But both the tank and nuke are decent this time.

Might not get 400k but I think I should beat my last score

[cyan tusk]

For the first clear you might have troubles handling the sides while for the nc leaf clear you are not gonna score using leaf bc this time we get more points the more hit we get

[hardy fog]

That's why you are thinking to put mix red to do aoe

[cyan tusk]

Yes my only concern about red is if he’s gonna be able to clear high score clear without grassy terrain supplement

[hardy fog]

I see

[cyan tusk]

Bc his b move is locked behind GT

[hardy fog]

Should I make a new one of these for Grass 😂https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RcI1HP7GenWt_0ctz-JDQn_8SlFGyo6ktwOxcndiMLM/edit?usp=drivesdk

[cyan tusk]

That’s why I’m really thinking about investing in supp Tito lol

[hardy fog]

What's tito

The egg?

[cyan tusk]

Supp egg sprigatito

[hollow prism]

I think he’s just going to have to be used on a stage where you can afford to use Grass

A lot of team building relies on where Lyra goes tbh

[cyan tusk]

Yes but he has very few synergy with the other grassy terrain abusers

[hollow prism]

Her placement and who she’s paired with is a huge deal for the rest of the HS because it’s so hard to place GT

[cyan tusk]

I mean red and sslyra together is like hey look I’m slapping the 2 most broken things together now imma throw trash for other 4 fights lol

[hollow prism]

Whereas Adaman I feel doesn’t really fight for spots on Mallow and Gardenia

[cyan tusk]

Adaman can counter Cilan by just entering the field

His sun overlaps cilan’s rain at the beginning

[hollow prism]

Red can’t go on Mallow right? That’s the no special attack shit?

If that’s the case Lyra probably has to go on Mallow, and Red would need to go on Gardenia

[cyan tusk]

Oh yeah right

[hollow prism]

If you don’t do that you’re either using Lyra out of grass or setting GT vs another stage which is suicide

[cyan tusk]

But gardenia is all physical so you can slap SSAcerola

[hollow prism]

Yeah i was thinking Acerola Red, as dumb as that sounds

[cyan tusk]

You waste PMUP next but also you will lack gauge to afford a 3rd dps

[hollow prism]

Does PMUN get used on a max move?

[cyan tusk]

Nope

[hollow prism]

NOOOOOO come on

Damn are we actually going to have to use GT on another stage

[cyan tusk]

Yes we are 🤡 that’s why I’m leaning towards Erika

Bc at least I can fully debuff a stage. With 2 ex supports you can sync with red under terrain after Erika’s sync

[hollow prism]

So do we even use Lyra on Mallow or Gardenia at all then? LMAO

Red HAS to go on Gardenia I think unless we’re using him out of GT which is bad

[cyan tusk]

SSAcerola on mallow and Lyra on gardenia for me

Imma use red on another stage praying for good RNG

[hollow prism]

Lyra can MAYBE manage out of GT though

And for nuke you can set GT right before sync

[cyan tusk]

Lyra can’t go to Erika for example

So the only alternative is Ramos

[hollow prism]

Yeah that’s what I was thinking

Do you think we can put up GT against Erika at all or no

[cyan tusk]

I’ll try

Imma use HSycamore to mitigate grassy terrain abuse from the opponents

[hollow prism]

BRO THIS SUCKS WHY DO ALL OF THESE UNITS NEED GRASS 💀

[cyan tusk]

It’s always like this when you are pretty stacked for hse

[hollow prism]

Adaman really needs to pull a 120k on Cilan

[cyan tusk]

You cannot perform all the combinations you’d like

And that would fit better

[hollow prism]

I’m just worried about how well Adaman and Lyra do on their stages

Because that’s what sets the stage for what scores are possible

Lyra is the one that really worries me. I’m sure adaman will nuke the shit out of Cilan even at 1000 str

[chilly flame]

Yea I was thinking gardenia cuz she can’t abuse terrain

[chilly flame]

I swear it’s harder to plan teams when you have more units

[hollow prism]

Honestly yeah it seems to be

Fire was pretty easy becuase I was missing so many and a lot of the free fire units were easy write offs

[cyan tusk]

It is bc you think you have more combos and you’re like

Yes this is perfect (in your mind)

Then you realise you have done 1 single mistake which will screw the whole 5 lineups

[hollow prism]

Choice Paralysis

[hardy fog]

https://tenor.com/view/fat-boohoo-cry-baby-gif-10647085

[hollow prism]

It’s so hard having all of these exclusive units 😭

[sullen kestrel]

I tried pulling for ss ace and syca but didnt get either, I plan to pull for victor tho… after I get rosa

[hollow prism]

I’m so glad that I predicted the grass banner right

It sets me up beautifully for this Hs

I COULD pity SCSonia and have every pair, but honestly idk if it’s even worth it to do

[sullen kestrel]

I mean… its a double banner and there’s 3 options

Acerola just reran as well, so it was kind of obvious it’d be leaf/victor

[hollow prism]

Yeah but for my position I pitied Rosa planning to pity SCSonia because I predicted a Victor Leaf banner

Those were the only 4 i was missing

That’s what I mean when I said i predicted the banner right

Because the grass banner was always going to have 2 of those

[sullen kestrel]

Ah

[crude iron]

well, its time for me to pick out which dps im attempting with when the event drops. im working on LSycamore still, at 36/100. is he worth using in the event most likely over the other options ive got?
im just aiming for 180k since i already have medal. might push further if it turns out to be easy enough but for now just planning around 180k goal as usual

[grand perch]

Ah grading hasn’t finished yet

I’m probably gonna feel that lack of Victor and Adaman lol

[hardy fog]

Looks easy for you

[crude iron]

I’m prob gonna feel the lack of everything lol

[outer whale]

Grading is technically done. but Sages hasn't updated the doc.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1osGtcYk1I-8_4CN3KyP2kw64tNuweEWaD0ilomvLKXA/edit?usp=sharing Reposting it for folks.

[grand perch]

Ooh thanks

[slow obsidian]

Saw Mort-oh mentioned for Grass HS so- (Not sure about NC Leaf ) -did some improvement. How would it go?

(Please ignore the blue one)

[hardy fog]

Are you trying get feedback? Or

[royal tiger]

bonus points for setting up sun after all o/

[slow obsidian]

So I should just bring a sun setter for every team. Got it 📝

[cyan tusk]

3K points for sun but a x2 overall is not worth imo

[hardy fog]

Yea lots of top score last HS missed the burn which was 3k lol still got top score. Ie Runners 90k Chilli run 😂

[slow obsidian]

On second thought, I agree

[cyan tusk]

Also bc sun is not increasing grass damage by itself but only through multipliers so it’s not that big of a deal. I might be using 3 sun instead of 5 if I don’t get a good team for Og Lyra

Erika’s sync is physical or special? Plz tell me it’s special

[sullen pier]

special from what i heard

[cyan tusk]

So I can slap light screen on her

[ornate turret]

i already edited my pin, no need to pin a new one

[sullen pier]

thank you for the hard work

[outer whale]

Lets gooooo

[outer whale]

And also:

[chilly flame]

I’ll be honest, I’m skeptical about using Selene vs mallow

Maybe it’s because I haven’t used her enough but I just don’t see Spirit Shackle doing a lot

[outer whale]

She's only higher up due to the fact that she is both physical to avoid Mallow's gimmick and ghost SE. I will say though, she may have problem with sides however, but with the amount of physical grass type damage dealers we have that are not limited time, (literally just SSErika who has sun, and Mallow herself) it is definitely an option who's toolkit checks the criteria for me.

with that said, if you have Victor, Adaman, or even SCSonia, there's nothing stopping you from using those options as well as they're great choices too.

[chilly flame]

I’d probably use SS Ace/Sonia/Selene

[sturdy glen]

Same

[hardy fog]

Sonia Mallow SS Ace sounds better

Hey some debuff and confusion procs 😂

[main pulsar]

Spirit shackle dps kinda crap

But if se it may be better?

Dunno

[cyan tusk]

Or maybe enhancing it with defense drops

Tech grookey

[hardy fog]

When I watched Enigma's replays, I realized the true value of confusion 😂

[hardy fog]

Or Mallow with DC2

[cyan tusk]

Btw dc2+dc3 Ramos is not a bad idea at all

[hardy fog]

That was Link's proposal

What makes Ramos legit is speeding sun

[outer whale]

It's why i said let me cook with Ramos.

[cyan tusk]

I might cook with Ramos too actually

SSAcerola + Sonia + Ramos sound nice

[hardy fog]

And I'll go with the poor man's Tsareena

[cyan tusk]

DC2+dc2+dc3 Ramos

Actually Ramos also solves my problem of the nature lover theme skill

[hardy fog]

What's dc3

[outer whale]

Ramos gonna be the underdog this HSE

Defense crush 3

[hardy fog]

Where is that from

I can't find it

[outer whale]

Ramos grid

Top right

[hardy fog]

Holy

[cyan tusk]

Innate passive too

[hollow prism]

Wait what Ramos just randomly gets that

Damn

Ramos looking even better than before 💀

[west pier]

I might use him then lol

[hollow prism]

He should already be at least considered on your teams somewhere tbh sleep kinda nuts

[west pier]

Yeah true

Hey guys. I've already talked to ProB a little in the Poce server but I'm trying to get master rank and the medal for the first time this hs event. Here are my current grass units, plus the teams I had currently planned. They can probably use a lot of improvement and I'm open to feedback. Other strong units I have are all 3 NC Kanto, NC Rosa, and SS Morty. Thanks!

There's a link to grids and builds for the units i had planned

[outer whale]

three thing i'm already seeing concerns on:

1. You're having Rosa tank physical hits when she's a special defense and special attacker user.
2. SSacerola does nothing for that team and should be put in with Mallow if you're wanting a physical striker.
3. Selene is not going to do anything in that team since she has no sun benefits and it would be better to switch her to Mallow for Super Effective damage.

[west pier]

So swap Rosa and Acerola, and Selene and Adaman/Mallow?

[hollow prism]

Yeah Selene is not generally considered outside of Mallow

[outer whale]

Gardenia has physical attacks as well, she would be better on Ramos or even Cilan tbh.

[west pier]

Who would be better

Acerola?

[outer whale]

if you need some insight. I have this doument here. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1osGtcYk1I-8_4CN3KyP2kw64tNuweEWaD0ilomvLKXA/edit?usp=sharing

[hollow prism]

The #1 thing i said is wait for the Adaman team to come out and see where he goes (95% sure it’s Cilan) and then build around that team

[outer whale]

this will explain a lot for teams. and their gradings in the battle.

[hardy fog]

This is my plan @west pier feel free to critic 😂

[outer whale]

Genuine question: Should I post that doc on the reddit page?

[hardy fog]

No imo haha let them come to our server

[west pier]

I don't have a lot of those units. And my Brendan is only 1/5 which pretty much eliminates him

[outer whale]

[hardy fog]

We def had diff teams to other group

[outer whale]

@west pier that's gonna be a problem. HSE in general is endgame content

[hardy fog]

But as content creator I do feel it would be great for you to post on Reddit

I’m just being selfish

[west pier]

I looked again and I only don't have SS Leaf and HSycamore

And ss Lyra

[outer whale]

I wouldn't even say i'm a content creator but ok

[hardy fog]

You have to start somewhere

[outer whale]

[west pier]

I'll probably come back to this channel when the event actually starts and ask again

[hardy fog]

Actually look at Links doc first it’s really great place to start

[west pier]

I did. I saved it so I can read it more later lol

[young stone]

Looked up the doc

And I have a question about supports

[forest ferry]

Does this look good enuff?

[young stone]

Do they need EX

And is Adaman 1/5 enough here for all rewards and even medal?

[forest ferry]

If you don't have medal from prev events good luck climbing a event with most limited heavy typing like grass

Tho you'd more likely be carried by your sslyra and bulu than adaman

[sullen pier]

Mallow in Ramos team doesnt have atk buffs

Erika team doesnt have defensive buffs which is dangerous tanking without

And im not sure if Rosa has Solar Shield or not. If she doesnt the team has no way to cure / block paralysis

Eggmon wont be able to live long at higher strengths

[radiant pebble]

she does at 3/5

[sullen pier]

[forest ferry]

I don't have special tanks

Should I just switch to erika?

[sullen pier]

Im not sure if double supports for Adaman is good or not

[sullen pier]

At 1/5 he can enable another dmg dealer

[forest ferry]

I am using Lyra for light screen

Since that stage has aoe spl damage

ig I can swap lodge blue and dawn for better buffspread

[young stone]

Are these eggmons useful this HS?

Outside of Leafeon

Vic is what interests me

[sullen pier]

Is that sup Tangela

[young stone]

It is

[sullen pier]

It has Healing Sun 2 and Reflect

So its survivability is better than most eggmon, arguably the best

[young stone]

Bulba is strike, so no use

[forest ferry]

Would this be better then?

Tho I might need more pot MPR from Shauna

[sullen pier]

Im still not too sure on Erika team

Mallow team has survivability issue when terrain runs out

I would swap Shauna with LBlue

[forest ferry]

Then aoe move destroys me

It's not like Lblue can flinch and buff at same time

[sullen pier]

Just reset for less aoe spam

I recommended him there because of sun synergy

[forest ferry]

Now mallow feels like trickiest to place

Coz I just realised she wants sun to be a decent enuff nuke

But Brendan want some level spd buffs

Otherwise it's fairly slow setup

[sullen pier]

what move level is your Acerole btw? if she is 3/5 Sprigatito is abundant

[forest ferry]

3/5 bulu

All limited stuff I have are 3/5

[sullen pier]

i would put Ramos there for disrupting

[forest ferry]

But terrain then only stay for 1 dps sync

[sullen pier]

still better than keeping the cat alive

[forest ferry]

Also bulu heals team up in terrain

[radiant pebble]

3/5 acerola can set terrain on sync

[sullen pier]

remember that Acerola has extended terrain

[radiant pebble]

with her 1st sync that should be enough

[forest ferry]

And that terrain only stays for 1 dps sync, next sync doesn't get to be in terrain

[outer whale]

She does and solar flare 5 iirc

[sullen pier]

Solar Flare 5

[outer whale]

Don't cha want to have sun nuking Rosa?

[sullen pier]

HS doesnt have room for meme

[outer whale]

You have to believe.

[chilly flame]

Yea I believe that it doesn’t have room to meme

I gotta figure out who I’m using vs Ramos

So far i got SC Rosa

[cyan tusk]

You can meme

||And do the serious run later ||

[chilly flame]

Don’t tell me I have to level up bulbasaur

Seed Flare + Sludge Bomb

[sturdy glen]

wydm you dont have every pair at 140?

[chilly flame]

Correct

[radiant pebble]

imagine not having lvl 140 max theme skill on all units

[sullen pier]

Im called out

[sturdy glen]

skill issue

[hardy fog]

What happened to using og Erika lol @forest ferry

[desert elm]

I’m thinking since I’m only aiming for 180k I’m gonna make 2 high power teams and then do cheap fill in the blanks.

[cunning shore]

[forest ferry]

I don't have enuff ex resources

Also no sun team to slot her

[hardy fog]

She doesn't need ex anyway

She would go with someone like Rosa or Lyra

[forest ferry]

yea but I don't have much sun access to slot her in erika stage

Since Lyra sun is only 1 time

also Lyra buffs rosa's stats as well so I think rosa might tank damage better than her due to actually healing off giga drain

[hardy fog]

How about ss Erika Lyra Erika

[forest ferry]

sserika shoved with adaman
Coz adaman solo dps suk

[hardy fog]

Can go against Ramos

[hardy fog]

Wtf😂

[forest ferry]

Tho I'd take any dps with adaman, it's just I don't have any

Adaman isn't dealing any damage to sides with just leafblade

His nuke on mid is overkill

[hardy fog]

Well brendan would be free

[shy flower]

She has Solar Flare 5 twice! Lyra still nukes harder in my experience though

[hardy fog]

I'm running ss morty with my ss leaf anyway will see how that goes

[forest ferry]

I doubt bringing non grass is worth except NCblue and NCleaf

I tried ssmina last time and SSmorty for electric HS and it wasn't worth at all

Unless your roster is so bottom tier that you need to free up stuff

[hardy fog]

If I look back to fire hs. Most of the teams with f2p without a fat limited pair will do like 55k 60k max. Ss leaf if nuking don't have many choice for tanks so I just think ss morty would do signifcantly better than say Lyra or Rosa tanking. At least 65k in my mind.

It's all good only a few days before we find out anyway 😂

[forest ferry]

SSTred carry with 690 str is like 60k pts or smth in water HS

I doubt Morty is that significant of a unit to let you score 65k with ssleaf as dps

[cyan tusk]

Imo there’s no need for Morty

[hardy fog]

https://tenor.com/view/you-just-watch-me-do-what-i-want-dont-tell-me-what-to-do-pay-attention-focus-gif-15563654

[hollow prism]

If you have to work with what you have then I guess but NCLeaf is 100% going to be better as a 5th sun setter

[west pier]

If you do use NC Leaf is 1/5 fine or does she need 3/5

[cyan tusk]

3/5 and ex role bc going x2 instead of x3 is really gonna hurt the overall score
Especially considering leaf will be spamming leer so no additional hits

[west pier]

I thought her whole purpose was her fire damage though

I probably won't use her then

[outer whale]

If you're gonna use NCLeaf, you're going to need to make the battle harder to offset the point loss for not using a grass type.

[shy flower]

The main reason to use NC Leaf is that she's an insanely good unit who brings sun and the MC tag. The Fire damage is a nice bonus, but if you can't up the strength enough to counteract her being not grass, it's not worth using her

[outer whale]

NCLeaf also fufills the Sun point criteria too

[shy flower]

who brings sun and the MC tag

Though the sun is especially notable since we only have four Grass pairs that can set sun, two of which are limited

[outer whale]

What sentence wrapping does to a elementary reader

[shy flower]

Discord please

[west pier]

Are they Lyra/Meganium, Acerola, Adaman, SS Erika?

[shy flower]

Yep

[west pier]

Nice I have them all

[shy flower]

You should be pretty set to do well then

[west pier]

Hopefully. I want the medal lol

[shy flower]

You should be able to easily get the medal if you have SS Ace and Adaman. Which grass types are you missing?

[west pier]

Lemme check

SC Rosa, SS Lyra, SS Leaf, Holiday Sycamore, Lodge Gloria, Variety Mallow, SC Sonia

My grass roster

[shy flower]

That shouldn't be too bad then. You might want to overload one clear in order to make up for one or two other clears lacking a little, but I think you can get the medal without much issue

You're only missing one support and have the right pairs EXed at least

[west pier]

I have a link to my team plans but they need some help if you want to take a look lol.
I think I'm missing two supports unfortunately, Sycamore and Mallow. Are there any other pairs I should ex? I also have NCLeaf but she's 1/5

[shy flower]

Oh yeah, I forgot about Mallow I can take a look rq to see

I don't think you'll need to EX any of the other pairs there, but I'm sure some people would make the case for Brendan

[west pier]

I wish he wasn't 1/5 lol

[shy flower]

Yeah him being 1/5 hurts lol

I never got much use out of him anyway, but I know some people really like him

[west pier]

Yeah I'm planning on switching selene to Mallow stage after some feedback yesterday. Also will probably spread acerola and red out and move Adaman to Cilan.

[west pier]

Yeah he took forever for me to even get one copy lol

[shy flower]

At a first glance, I'd probably say to swap Rosa and Dawn, since Rosa won't be able to heal as well vs Mallow

I agree with swapping Selene over to Mallow and splitting up SS Ace and Mix Red. I'd probably put Acerola with Mallow somewhere. I'd also suggest buffing up your first team vs Ramos, since that one looks like the weakest link to me

[hardy fog]

Dawn don’t need to LS Vigilance for Gardenia which is quite valuable in HS

[west pier]

Yeah Ramos is gonna be tough because I'm out of good units. Is Strike egg grookey better or Gardenia? And does Lyra nuke ok? I might always sync with her for Sun and dps with Gardenia and Sycamore (poison)

[west pier]

I think Dawn has grass Guard rn

[shy flower]

Lyra nukes okay, but she's a bit frail and needs sun up to do most of her damage. I think Gardenia is better than egg Grookey, but I haven't used eggs much so I'm not positive on that

[west pier]

Also I have egg Sprigatito and Leafeon for terrain but I'm assuming I won't need them since only two stages are terrain safe and I have two terrain units already?

[hollow prism]

If you offtype the max you can earn on that stage is in the 80ks, and that’s with +1000 str and all conditions max points

So even for high ranking players we would want her maxed out because she does have +1000 potential

[west pier]

Yeah idk if I'm gonna offtype. It would be nice to have a fifth sun Setter though

Maxed out you mean 3/5 ex role?

[hollow prism]

You need the right unit to offtype if you’re going for high ranks

If you’re only going for 180k that’s a different story and i would highly recommend

[west pier]

I'm going for master rank

[hollow prism]

Then you don’t need to optimize THAT much

[west pier]

I just want the medal so nothing crazy but I do need master rank

[west pier]

@shy flower I tried to utilize some of your suggestions. Do the new teams listed under the photo (of the old teams) look better

Dang it Dawn isn't on Gardenias stage I just realized

[shy flower]

Yeah, I like that better. I'd almost say to switch Shauna, Lyra, and Dawn so you have someone who can tank better for Ramos' stage, but I'm not super sure about it

[hardy fog]

If no vmallow and not using ss morty. Seems like next best choice is Erika

[west pier]

Next best choice for what

[hardy fog]

As support for Erika or Ramos

She is competing with Lyra. Rosa. Barry.

[west pier]

Barry isn't the main support on Erika. Shauna is, Barry is just there because of catalytic infliction or whatever it's called so he doesn't consume gauge for Victor. I can't swap out Lyra because of the sun. I could maybe swap her in for Rosa who would be tanking on Cilans stage, after the changes from Chezei

[hardy fog]

My bad. I was not really talking about your roster 🥹

Just generally speaking

Sun max out at 3k anyway so it won't make or break your score if you can achieve higher strength

[west pier]

Ohhh ok no worries lol 😅

I might swap Barry out for Morty. Does he need 3/5? Mine is 2/5

[hardy fog]

2/5 is solid but don't feel like it's worth it for that Erika team to swap

[hollow prism]

It’s a pretty safe assumption that Lyra is making it in for everyone, even people who have all the exclusives, right?

Because of Sun?

Because i’m going to start EXing the pairs that I plan to use and I want to make sure i’m not EXing a bad pair that’ll sit on the bench

[west pier]

Yeah I think she's safe to ex

[hollow prism]

We have 10 Exclusive grass pairs, and i’m thinking the other 5 will probably be Dawn, Mallow, Lyra, SS Erika, and an offtype, probably NCleaf

Acerola, Lyra, VMallow, HSycamore, and idk who else but probably something involving NCLeaf and potions for the tanks

Or Dawn could be a physical tank

[west pier]

Gardenia uses sure crit and Dawn has Vigilance so maybe you could use her there

[hollow prism]

Or Adaman could tank for himself because he has Synthesis

But idk about that

[west pier]

Wouldn't you want to be attacking with him

Or just nuking ig and have a different dps

Idk you have better units than me lol

[hollow prism]

I mean yeah but Adaman’s Leaf Blade DPS isn’t like

SUPER important to the point that you absolutely cannot afford to waste a heal turn

[candid cobalt]

If someone could give feedback on my teams that'd be great

Having some trouble with deciding who should go where

[hollow prism]

You can’t have Acerola on Cilan

SSAcerola def needs to go on Mallow

[west pier]

She has ro go on Mallow or Gardenia

Put Mallow with her

[hollow prism]

You have SSLyra so it’s Acerola on Mallow SSLyra on Gardenia

You have no Adaman though which is brutal

[candid cobalt]

Noope

I skipped him for the Johto units that was after lmao

[hollow prism]

That’s the worst pair to not have unfortunately

By a lot

[candid cobalt]

Well yeah no shit

[hollow prism]

Because the next best 3 all compete with eachother for space lol

[candid cobalt]

I'm very much aware

-2 rebuff and sun is extremely good

[hollow prism]

Erika on Cilan isn’t awful as a backup i guess

I like the idea of pairing SS Acerola and Mallow up on Mallow actually

[candid cobalt]

SS Acerola compliments Mallow very well

[hollow prism]

Because Acerola supports her very well and gives her the exact boosts she needs

Yeah exactly

[candid cobalt]

That just becomes my regular CS team lmao

SS Acerola, Mallow and Selene

[hollow prism]

Something like that

[west pier]

Yeah selene on Mallow for ghost damage

[hollow prism]

Unfortunately no Alola Master Passive 😭

[west pier]

That team sounds great

[hollow prism]

But if you have a good Alola skill gear piece that’s funny

[cyan tusk]

It’s really hard to fit master passives in hse btw

I’ve been trying to put adaman with some sinnoh pals together but the only way would be to pair him with dawn/BPbarry

But I’m worried bp Barry will have issue tanking high strengths bc of slow ramping buffs

[hollow prism]

Yeah Dawn is 100% going with him

But i think we need to eat the loss and pick a random 3rd

[cyan tusk]

Dawn going with him means no cilan stage for adaman bc there are also special moves

[hollow prism]

Oh god

[cyan tusk]

Dawn needs a physical stage

So only gardenia or mallow

[hollow prism]

Uhh is there a special spread?

Can Adaman tank Cilan himself maybe

[cyan tusk]

For example my Dawn is into the gardenia stage

Same issue, no special defense buffs

[hollow prism]

Dawn prob shouldn’t go on Mallow because Acerola Mallow is already so powerful

And either Selene or something else, idk what yet

I see you want something like Dawn SSLyra MixRed on Gardenia maybe?

That probably works

[cyan tusk]

Rn I have Dawn SSLyra and SSLeaf

[hollow prism]

You have all 10 exclusives on the roster I assume, but what other 5 have made the cut for you? I was thinking it would probably be Dawn Mallow Lyra SSErika and NCLeaf

[cyan tusk]

But I might swap SSLeaf bc there’s already plenty of debuffs

[hollow prism]

Does SS Leaf debuff anything that NCLeaf can abuse on Erika

[cyan tusk]

Ssleaf can debuff both accuracy and evasion if you grid her for it

[hollow prism]

YO that’s totally the off type strat

Leaf gets Master passive there too right?

[cyan tusk]

Yes

[sullen pier]

she can only debuff evasion, both atks and both defs at 5/5

oh mb

i forgot the top left tile

im dumb

[cyan tusk]

I don’t know what you are gonna cook with physical master passive, razor leaf dps?

[hollow prism]

…… listen let me cook ☠️

[haughty haven]

[cyan tusk]

The debuff strat could have been pretty useful if we got more points for debuffs and fewer atks

But this time we need to land as many hits as possible

Actually NC Serena could score the same as NC leaf for that

[haughty haven]

Now i’m scared that NC Leaf just delete the stage too fast

[cyan tusk]

No quarter water shuriken gaming

[hollow prism]

But Cerena doesn’t have type effective lol

[sullen pier]

hear me out

No Quarter SS Acerola's Bullet Seed

[cyan tusk]

And she does not setup sun

[hollow prism]

No shot you kill erika TOO fast at like +1000

[west pier]

With 5/5 she can lower defense with it

[hollow prism]

Oh no My +1000 clear ended too early!

[arctic quest]

What a shame

[cyan tusk]

Who said there’s no room for meme??

[hollow prism]

😭😭😭

[sullen pier]

this is a valid strat you have to trust me!!!!!

[haughty haven]

[hollow prism]

I smell smoke in the kitchen

[arctic quest]

And not the good kind

[cyan tusk]

Source: trust me bro

[haughty haven]

I should start planning my team

[sullen pier]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-24177057

[cyan tusk]

Sh*t now I have to remember the real SSAcerola grid I was cooking

[hollow prism]

I have this rn because it seems Mallow really wants sun up

[west pier]

This is just with 3/5 right

[hollow prism]

I don’t think i’m getting her 5/5 unfortunately

[cyan tusk]

Im going for ScSonia and Ramos so I really need the MPR on tm bc of speed boosts

[cyan tusk]

You don’t need 5/5. I have her but considering 3/5 grids bc as always 5/5 grids for supports are super expensive

[haughty haven]

SC Sonia’s gauge

[arctic quest]

shit unit

[sullen pier]

/dehelper Arch

[haughty haven]

Gaken is looking us

[arctic quest]

[hollow prism]

Does mallow inflict any status though? Because going through Natural Remedy plus sync tile is expensive

[sullen pier]

you spelled my name wrong

[cyan tusk]

Don’t know but you get left with +4 energy if you avoid that tile and it’s not that big of a deal

[haughty haven]

Quân then

[cyan tusk]

There’s no good stuff with that few remaining energy

[hollow prism]

Oh i didn’t see the Angry MPR

[cyan tusk]

I can do this actually lol

[hollow prism]

mine relies on a Sunny Day MPR to get the Def boosts and I also gets sunscreen 1 instead of endure

[cyan tusk]

There’s no sunny day MPR

[hollow prism]

ADRENALINE 1 WHAT

[cyan tusk]

It’s mgr

[haughty haven]

Reset for 2Tm Mpr

[hollow prism]

Wait am i actually that dumb

WHAT AM I DOING THAT’S NOT A MGR

[cyan tusk]

Which I will for +6 defenses actually, so I might be going for the old grid for turbo turf 2

[hollow prism]

holy shit making grids at 2 AM is wild

[haughty haven]

Yes and +3 speed all team bc SC Sonia

[cyan tusk]

I am trying with Ramos next to ScSonia which is kinda fast per se

So we’ll see

[haughty haven]

Will try this team a bit

[cyan tusk]

What’s that team stealing

[haughty haven]

Yes, i cant plan anymore

[cyan tusk]

I’m here to get inspiration

[haughty haven]

LG drains me

Definitely not try awful solo

[cyan tusk]

That sounds like an excuse

[sullen pier]

https://tenor.com/view/really-what-squint-chicken-gif-15168180

[haughty haven]

Do you take this for Sonia Bicio ?

+30 atk

[hollow prism]

Surely there HAS to be another tile worth it right

[cyan tusk]

First draft is this

Bc I have Ramos that handles the defense debuffs

But as I said a couple of days ago I’m worried mix red has issue in erasing Erika’s stage using only his grassy terrain so I might use him with ScSonia and SSAcerola

[hollow prism]

Where exactly is SCRosa’s place in all of this?

I have no idea what to do with her

[cyan tusk]

Round 1 against Ramos

It’s a special stage so her and Vmallow go to town easily

[hardy fog]

I'm going let my ss leaf this hs

It's her chance to shine

[hollow prism]

What grid you thinking on her then

[forest ferry]

I want to candy my ssleaf but I only have 1 tech candy

[hollow prism]

For SCRosa

[hardy fog]

How dare you demote her to just debuffs

Treacherous

[hollow prism]

I’ve only used her a bit and I can already tell she’s slow AF so Twofer probably?

[hardy fog]

Power Play and attack debuff

[cyan tusk]

Im planning of use her with SSErika so i can abuse speeding sun 3 + max speed

[hollow prism]

Why does her potion MPR have to be on the outside :/

I want mind swell

Can she get to +6 or no

Nvm i’m really dumb

This is what happens to me at 3AM

[cyan tusk]

We have a shining big mushroom for that

[hollow prism]

I never use VMallow for anything other than LG so she’s never boosted anyone else

[digital jungle]

Can I get 180k with this roster

[cyan tusk]

You have decent chances but would need to power up all those units to level 140, theme skills and lucky skills included

[hollow prism]

Honestly

But yeah especially the EXing of the supports too

Like Dawn and probably Lyra really want 5*PUs

[digital jungle]

Wow I literally only have 15 Grass pairs

Exactly 15

[hollow prism]

Adaman is that busted

And also you can offtype a few other stages if you need

[cyan tusk]

And also farm lodge sycamore and get bp Barry

[light star]

whats the mininum strength for 180k with 3 ontypes 200 right?

[cyan tusk]

It goes from 200 to 250

[haughty haven]

Does Erika have Go Viral ?

[sullen pier]

she doesnt

[haughty haven]

[cyan tusk]

Nope, only TM1

[haughty haven]

Erika has Razor Leaf

Ready for crit

[cyan tusk]

Im more worried about the moonblast spam with Hsyca as a tank

[haughty haven]

Gourgeist on Mallow Stage really likes Rock Slide

[sturdy glen]

Shouldn’t we go fairy guard regardless
since that it’s her most powerful move
and we already have mini grass guard + increased rebuff

[cyan tusk]

Still don’t know if fairy guard or dc2/mg2

[main pulsar]

This hs seems really hard

[sturdy glen]

who's the dd?

[main pulsar]

🫠

Top 100 dream ded

[cyan tusk]

It’s mix red but I still think I might swap him to Victor bc his grassy terrain use alone might not be enough to end the fight

[sturdy glen]

for erika? ok that you have increased rebuff
but im not sure if the team
can handle boosted razor leaf

[haughty haven]

Ludicolo on Cilan Stage is so scary wtf

[outer whale]

He's the true boss of that stage

[sullen kestrel]

Not sure if I should plan my teams now or wait since I always end up having to changing my teams anyway atleast im only doing 180k

[sturdy glen]

planning the teams is just a small head start
unless you have everything maxed
it's more convenient to just copy the top teams

[sullen kestrel]

thats true

[cyan tusk]

Copy/plan and adjust is the way to go btw

[sullen pier]

Its the nature of LG/HS

[sturdy glen]

literally me that i've stolen every team
and i always made it to top 100

[rain sierra]

Next reset, and I still haven't planned a single thing

[hollow prism]

Bro why do we have to wait so long for Grass HS this sucks

[hardy fog]

2 resets actually 😂

[outer whale]

3*

Sunday monday, then Tuesday

[hollow prism]

Oh i thought it was 5

Ok this wait won’t be that bad then

[west pier]

I'm gonna try with the teams I planned for fun ans then if I don't get master rank (very likely I don't lol) then I'll copy the top teams that I am able to

[hardy fog]

If you hang out with us here it will be hard for you not to get master rank 🥹

[frank shore]

Can i join in now? 🥺

Forgot to start planning my grass HSE Team.

To get to Master Rank, is it necessary to have them all at level 150?

[hollow prism]

I mean not necessarily

Your roster is much more important

You probably want 140 at least though

Do you have a screenshot of your Grass Roster?

[balmy yarrow]

I don’t have shaymin
Got everything else, do you think Shaymin will be the Best in slot for any of the battles?

[hardy fog]

Not needed

[sullen pier]

Shaymin is a great check for special heavy stages

[radiant pebble]

copy/plan more like cope/pray

[cyan tusk]

[hardy fog]

What's the teams looking like now SO I CAN COPY

[sullen pier]

Which one is the better choice: 3/5 SS Lyra or 3/5 SC Rosa? I can only upgrade one to 3/5 atm

Im also planning to pull for a SS Leaf dupe if that helps

Ramos looks like the perfect stage for Rosa

[sturdy glen]

rosa

[cyan tusk]

Rosa gains more value at 3/5, sslyra can do her thing at 1/5 too

[sullen pier]

[frank shore]

Yeah sure. Sorry for the late reply.

This is my Grass roster, listed from highest level to lowest, from Sync Grid page.

If you want the screen cap from Move Level page, i’ll send it.

[frank shore]

Also, if i’m going for all grass unit, i’m short of 2 more units to lvl up to 140. Which one should I invest in?

[hollow aurora]

I still haven’t made my team.

[chilly flame]

It is

I just don’t know who to use aside from her for that stage lmao

Im thinking Bulbasaur but if his poison damage isn’t worth it then I don’t wanna waste resources to level him up

[sullen pier]

You have to use him with another dmg dealer. His dmg is not enough

[outer whale]

My problem with Bulbasaur is that it's kind of squishy

[sullen pier]

Im thinking of using him with SC Rosa but i dont even know if there is a Grass type support capable of carrying gauge 💀

[outer whale]

Rosa and pray for MPR

[sullen pier]

[chilly flame]

Should work with sc Rosa right

Since she has Sp def debuff

[sullen pier]

Yes but she has to alter between Sweet Scene and Seed Flare to maintain gauge

Which might lead to dmg loss

I havent decided the tank to use in that comp

[chilly flame]

Vmallow maybe

[outer whale]

I'm still thinking here. Haven't seen my doc in a few days, but this is what i have atm. May change some stuff around tomorrow.

I'm worried about the erika battle tho...

Also might switch lyra out for SSMorty considering ludicolo is pain

Idk yet.

[chilly flame]

Rosa is not tanking that Ramos stage

[chilly flame]

Erika is the team with mix red right?

[outer whale]

Yea

With the rebuff that hsycamore has, I would think he would be able to tank the extra damage from GT

I still have dawn torterra, but iirc, ramos is a special attacker

[chilly flame]

He is

[outer whale]

Hmm

Maybe replace shauna for dawn?

[hollow prism]

If you have literally every other pair besides shaymin that’s actually insane

[hollow prism]

Oh nvm i see, you are missing a lot

You have all the big units, but some of the less critical stages might be a little tricky. No V Mallow or SC Rosa does make special stages weird

[balmy yarrow]

I do, SC Sonia, Victor, Adaman, Shiinotic, Bulu, Gogoat, holy day Sycamore, MixRed, everything except Shaymin

But Shaymin is the best Special attacker I think

[hollow prism]

Oh you’re chilling then

Yeah it is but eh you can manage

You’re just going to lower strength to a point where your other units can do better damage and Mallow can take it easier

[frank shore]

Yeah.. looking at what you guys discussed here… maybe i’ll aim for a 180k clear instead 😅

[hollow prism]

If you don’t have Master rank medal i’d get that too

Your roster is good enough that you don’t need to optimize super hard for it

[west pier]

Should I candy acerola to 3/5

Here are all my other supports for reference

[hollow prism]

I mean you could, it’s not like you wouldn’t consider candying her without Grass HS

[hollow prism]

Oh you have Blue missing 3/5 too

Uhhh i’d wait and see if you need the extra boost to reach your goal

[west pier]

NC Blue?

[hollow prism]

Yeah

[west pier]

K

[hollow prism]

But Acerola 1/5 is also much worse because no recycling Grass on sync

[west pier]

Does she get terrain on sync at 3/5?

[hollow prism]

If you’re only getting medal you should PROBABLY be fine?

Yeah unfortunately

It’s really important

Because she’s used as a tank/setter on Mallow

But NCBlue is so good to candy too

[west pier]

I might candy her then. I feel like Blue is not priority since he's broken enough already

[hollow prism]

I think he gets Flinch chances and def boosts for the whole team at 3/5

[west pier]

We'll see if I need to candy for the medal

[hollow prism]

Like his kit’s busted too

[west pier]

Ooo

[hollow prism]

No shit he’s NCBlue

Honestly you’re probably going to candy Acerola ANYWAY after blue

Because her 3/5 is also that important

So you might as well start with her because you get an advantage in Grass HS and then do blue next

[west pier]

The only other type I have enough units in to do a hs event is ice lol

[hardy fog]

When did you start this account?

[grand perch]

Hmm not sure about my teams. Feeling the lack of Victor and Adaman lol

Just aiming for 180k btw

[west pier]

Last April

[young stone]

May I ask why is there a double striker team? Against Mallow

[outer whale]

I would assume as additional backup damage for sides.

with that said, Glookey is not the best one to use as a dual striker due to the recol damage being somewhat a liability

although, you could potentially use that recoil damage as a way for the opponent to not input any commands until she KOs herself to get sync

incredibly niche use tho

[grand perch]

Now that’s a weird strategy lol

[sturdy glen]

the higher the dmg
the sooner the run is gonna end

[hardy fog]

Nice fellow 2023 player

[outer whale]

Decided to make all my grassmons 5 stars.... kind of surprised on my move levels tbh.

[hardy fog]

Did you get 2 copies of Sycamore? Dangggg

[outer whale]

More like i did a funny candy just because he has some good nodes at 2/5

Granted this was way before this month

[hardy fog]

Thats bold

[outer whale]

I'm not going to candy him to 3/5 for now, saving the last omni candies i have for Iono potentially.

[hardy fog]

I'll be dailying her as well 🤞

[hardy fog]

I did not think about my gear for fire/grass team gg

Sigh the stats are handicapped

We will rock them anyway! Lessshgoooo 🥳

[graceful pike]

Hey um

I know we adding a doc

so