High Score

[arctic quest]

Wonder if we'll get more accessible dragon supports too, atm it's literally just Drake

[shy flower]

Drayden plz

[sullen pier]

are you ready for BP Clair & Dragonair?

[arctic quest]

Is Hassel popular enough to not get a spotlight?

[shy flower]

Not sure

[sullen pier]

based on popularity, especially in Japan, he is very likely to be PF

[arctic quest]

Dammit

[sullen pier]

Baxcalibur or whatever its name is popular too

[arctic quest]

Yeah, that's true

Then again Colress happened

[shy flower]

[sullen pier]

we dont talk about him

[shy flower]

Maybe we can get Rika, Poppy, and Hassel like we got Aaron, Bertha, and Lucian

[sullen pier]

massive cope

[shy flower]

Oh I'm absolutely coping hard with that

[arctic quest]

PF Rika please, the rest can be spotlight

[shy flower]

I was expecting to be PF tbh

[arctic quest]

Yeah me too

[sullen pier]

https://tenor.com/view/larry-pokemon-scarlet-violet-slap-gif-27126232

[arctic quest]

Fighting type Flamigo instead of Staraptor would be great for Fighting HSE too

[worldly parcel]

Conditions:

1: 3* Min Rarity | All Pairs (Limited Included) | Support Role | Type‎

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Maylene & Medicham
Player & Cobalion ( Support)
Sygna Suit Cynthia (Aura) & Lucario

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[arctic quest]

Surely they start combining types

[sullen pier]

Normal and Bug double featured HS so true!

[arctic quest]

Rest in peace

[shy flower]

Fighting and Ground have the fewest pairs at 14, maybe they'd combine those two

Having Koraidon would give us two sun setters in that case

[arctic quest]

Groudon when Koraidon gets the same type of sun utility but 5x better

[shy flower]

Primal Reversion buff when

[main pulsar]

Never

They’ve had ample opportunity if they wanted to

[shy flower]

They may want to wait before buffing Master Fairs. 5/5 grid expansions are only for Poké Fairs so far

[grand perch]

Give Steven his 3/5 boost Dena you cowards

[hollow prism]

LMAO those Water move buffs

Imagine if that was Grass

[cunning shore]

Stonks

[frank girder]

I feel that we’ll have a single PF sync pair for him. I doubt they’ll make an alt for his elite4 status

I mean, the only difference in outfit is a pair of gloves…

But tbf, each one of the e4 has PF potential

[hardy fog]

Bringing back your nightmares

[hollow prism]

SHE STILL DOESN’T HAVE CAKE 💀

[plush raven]

Are we getting a new high score stadium tomorrow?

Like in a few hours

[sullen pier]

#1012256199128915968 has date

[plush raven]

Yeah it’s in 4h

Do we have teams yet?

Water type stadium

[sullen pier]

Oh wait, i though this was #1009554906568462476 thread

The next High Score is in January, and its type is Grass

Check the pins in the CS channel for stage info

[bright river]

Well.

[graceful pike]

My guy went from 1/5 to 150 3/5 ex

[hardy fog]

[maiden canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/spin-pokemon-galar-victor-vic-gif-3171499267201754325

[gleaming raven]

thats not a high score event

and i didnt scroll down lmao

oops

[hardy fog]

Leggggo

[hollow prism]

Ok this gear is starting to get really busted

The only thing i can see improving this is a lucky skill on the Pin that I reroll for but even that is like

Because I have Grass locked on the bracelet do you think I reroll that one for an 80 on Atk and a better perk

[hardy fog]

5% dmg on it right now

Seems solid to me

[hollow prism]

What do i change here then?

[hardy fog]

Confusion Para poison seems all good

Maybe just pin

[hollow prism]

Idk i feel like i’m lacking in the perks on this gear

[arctic quest]

It is decent & the stats are good, but you've spent an everpin on it - I'd personally reroll for the ideal scenario since it's such an expensive/limited item

[hollow prism]

The pin also has an everpin on Grass

[hardy fog]

What about this one Arch

Haha I pinned it but i feel like this is gosu

[hollow prism]

Holy shit

[arctic quest]

The no water theme hurts, but you've got benefits for Kris, SS Lysandre, NC Serena, May

[hardy fog]

Prob I reckon you prioritize the pin first if you have more feather you can keep rolling the bracelet

[hardy fog]

Even Djglo

[arctic quest]

Oh yea

Goated roll for sure

[hardy fog]

It's like everyone

Lol

[hollow prism]

Ok i already got something better i think

I don’t know if this is better or worse

Probably better

First things first: do i replace the first set for this new one

Second: do i keep pushing more

[arctic quest]

Yes to the second, if you're pushing for top 50 you'd probably want defensive stats & good passives. That will happen via sheer rerolling

[hollow prism]

But you’d say this one is better than the first?

[hardy fog]

Prob is aiming for top 3 😂

[hollow prism]

Or no

Yeah i’m aiming SUPER fucking high this HS

[arctic quest]

I'd say so yeah

[hollow prism]

Ok this is going to hurt but i’m getting rid of the old set then

[arctic quest]

I've gotten some really busted sets by just rerolling endlessly, trust just keep clicking that button

[hardy fog]

Just go farm some from LG

[hollow prism]

I think my Bandanna is finished in particular

I don’t think I need to make that one any better

[hardy fog]

Arch you don't even farm HS/LG where are all these feathers from

[hollow prism]

The pin MIGHT need some work and the Bracelet needs a defensive buff

[arctic quest]

I do farm LG just not high streaks

I also spend all my stamina on training area outside of events for mysterious stones, then exchange for feathers

[hardy fog]

I see

[arctic quest]

Also how do you farm HS?

[hollow prism]

Start rerolling for this?

[arctic quest]

Are you intending to lock that skill?

[hollow prism]

What do you mean

Oh the interference

[arctic quest]

Are you going to use a pin on the passive?

[hollow prism]

No i am not

I already have the exact same one on the bandanna

[arctic quest]

Okay good, if you're ever going to - don't lock something in the first slot

Always 2nd or 3rd

[hollow prism]

Alright

But this should be rerolled probably right

Assuming the heights i’m pushing for

[arctic quest]

That one is pretty good, wouldn't blame you if you kept it. 30 defense, almost highest attack roll, and a pretty good passive

[hollow prism]

So pin first then?

[arctic quest]

Yeah ig so

[arctic quest]

(Personally, would still have rerolled)

[hollow prism]

I have two bandannas rn

What i would kill to have the stats of the second one on the first

[arctic quest]

Ah damn that's rough

[hollow prism]

But the stats on the first one are JUST BARELY low enough that i don’t think i can keep that

[arctic quest]

No HP/Defenses, 65 spAtk

[hollow prism]

Yeah that’s trash

And i have no pins on any of these

[arctic quest]

Yeah they're pretty lucky rolls all in all

[hollow prism]

Right now i’m using the second bandanna but idk if that’s good enough

I can’t think of a good burner in grass

[arctic quest]

You reckon NC Leaf would see a lot of play? Ik she's not grass but she's got a really handy kit

[hollow prism]

If i’m using an offtype it will be Blue or Rosa

[arctic quest]

Mm, fair

[hollow prism]

Unless i have a specific on type DPS

[hardy fog]

She was in the number one roster for electric

[hollow prism]

The worst part about my first pin

[hardy fog]

We were all like WTF

[hollow prism]

Is that the passive i REALLY want is slot 1

So i can’t even pin that and roll for Grass plus stats

[arctic quest]

Damn

[hardy fog]

And NC Leaf 125k in fire lol

Insane

[shy flower]

I bet she'll be the carry on a sun team for most higher scorers

NC Blue and NC Rosa will likewise be high but you won't see me using them

[arctic quest]

I'd think so too yeah

[hardy fog]

Her utility just seems amazing for any future HS really

[arctic quest]

You have all grass pairs don't you?

Wait

[shy flower]

I'm missing Adaman

[arctic quest]

Yeap just realised

[shy flower]

I'm fucked for this HS, so I'm just waiting for Ghost

[arctic quest]

[shy flower]

Like I'll still give it my all this time, but I doubt I'll be very high since I refuse to off type

[hollow prism]

Sigh more really good gear pieces that only have Offensive shit

I need a Defensive perk

[arctic quest]

"off-type" always trips me up for HS but yeah I see what you mean

[hollow prism]

Keep this and roll the bandanna?

[arctic quest]

I'm lacking a good couple of grass types so rest in peace

[hollow prism]

Or keep trying

[arctic quest]

Unscathed

[hardy fog]

The bandana is solid

Why reroll

[hollow prism]

Oh sorry the Bracelet

Because it has a pin

[hardy fog]

Triple Stat pin imo 🥹

[arctic quest]

How many feathers do you have? Might want to consider some resource allocation & cut your losses if you're going to run out soon

[hollow prism]

235 yellow

Not an issue

[hardy fog]

The guy has unlimited resources for this HS

[arctic quest]

[hollow prism]

Bro i didn’t think that was that much lol

I was worried that i wasn’t 4 digits

[arctic quest]

It's not They run out quick

[hollow prism]

Is that enough to keep trying then i assume

[hardy fog]

I have 9 yellow feathers

[hollow prism]

Ok this might be the one. That’s a 4% on WTZ. Do we have enough pairs to make that trigger all 5 stages?

Lyra, Red, Acerola, Adaman, Erika, idk if all 5 would be on separate stages tho

[hardy fog]

There is but like we have learned from Fire and Eletric there are many stages you don't want weather

[hollow prism]

I mean i guess

[hardy fog]

Or you activate in a specific window

[hollow prism]

But i would assume only Grass would be a problem for this one

And it’s not like i can just not put up grass for Acerola or Lyra

Red might not want to use his max but idk, and he still gets Field EX so

[shy flower]

I'm pretty certain there will be at least one stage that you don't want sun for, possibly more

[hollow prism]

Ig i’ll keep trying then

WHY DID YOU HAVE TO BE SPEED IF YOU WERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WOULD BE IT

I might even pin that one and use more feathers later

Why is pinning something in Slot 1 such an issue out of curiosity

[shy flower]

You're guaranteed to get something in slot 1, but not in slots 2 or 3. Pinning something in slot 2 or 3 will guarantee that you get at least 2 passives each roll since you'll still get the roll for slot 1, but pinning slot 1 could still net you only 1 passive

[hollow prism]

So i probably have to let that go then bc it’s in slot 1?

OK I’M DONE i can tell with near certainty this is the one i’m looking for

5% reduction

This is the one

Unless I really work on the bracelet this is my setup

+6% Atk if Interference or Status, and -5% dmg from all Grass Attacks

[shy flower]

Carmine with Sinistcha for the burn proc when

[hollow prism]

That Burn passive is never going off unfortunately lol

So close to useful but no

[hardy fog]

Yoo that pin is solid

[hollow prism]

Yeah this gear set looks nasty now

[hollow prism]

I don’t even think i need to touch the Bracelet tbh, i might just call it a day there

[hardy fog]

How many deluxe minimum should we go into HS with y’all reckon

[hollow prism]

i have 120

i should get more

[cunning shore]

Use candy to 3/5 neo rosa

Or wait for magic to happen and candy someone else for grass hs

Knowing that i have enough support candies to candy 3 supports

[shy flower]

Candy base Rosa

[sullen pier]

i also have enough candies to 3/5 either of SC Rosa or SS Lyra, gotta wait for info first

[hardy fog]

So after you rolled for Rosa you would still daily?

[cunning shore]

Nah

Ain't dailying

[cunning shore]

Base rosa already 4/5 🥲

Had her 3/5 before they implemented this pokemon day stuff

[shy flower]

Damn

[hardy fog]

O I mean neo Rosa

[shy flower]

Mine was too though so fair

[cunning shore]

Yeah i ain't gonna daily her

[hardy fog]

Mine is 2/5 😦

Base Rosa that is

But I picked up Sycamore from daily so that was cool

[cunning shore]

My gems are at all time low thanks to Nate the ||greedy bastard||

[hardy fog]

Why nate though 😂

[cunning shore]

Had to pity

And of all the MFs i got, it was Nate that I wasn't prepped for

[mortal timber]

Merry Christmas high score forum, much love ❤️

[graceful pike]

Still 1/5 btw

But i feel like I have to

[hardy fog]

This guy splashing huh

[hardy fog]

I should be good till next LG ay? This is the most I've ever had lol. When I first stared I used the bronze and silver cookie to try get CS2 😂

[cunning shore]

Looks good to me

You might want more Silver quality of the cookies tho

[hardy fog]

Deluxe or the red ones. I can’t control the red ones

[rain sierra]

Victor and SS Leaf for HS banner. I guess they will be core for this mode?

[hollow prism]

IS THAT CONFIRMED?

[rain sierra]

Yes

[hollow prism]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA LETS GOOOOOOO 500K HERE WE COME

[royal tiger]

Ss leaf poison lets go

[chilly flame]

Double feature, we’re so in this

[shy flower]

No Adaman

Guess I'm out of the race until next time

[hollow prism]

My plan with Mix actually worked

This is not a drill holy shit

[shy flower]

I will be extremely impressed if you do manage to hit 500k

[hollow prism]

I think I might be able to

Runner got 489k on Fire and I think Grass is a stronger type overall

And I’m literally going to have EVERYTHING

Rosa also came to me on the daily, i’m at 1/400 on her banner which is insane so i have a 6 figure gem count loaded up for January

If my calculations are correct, assuming I get 3/5 of both Victor and Leaf in a pity on Grass, i should be able to 3/5 Sonia, then 3/5 Rosa, then 5/5 Acerola

I’m probably going to have to choose between one of the 3 5/5s in Acerola Leaf or Victor

Maybe i can get 2 if i’m really lucky

[chilly flame]

Someone ping me when we get the stage details

[sullen pier]

Its time to decide on who should i candy for HS

(NC Rosa and SS Lyra)

[hardy fog]

Does NC Rosa really need candy though since she is likely playing support

Or you banking her as a main dps

[sullen pier]

She is the nuker

[shy flower]

Do you mean SC Rosa?

[sullen pier]

I SHOULD GET A NAP NOW

yes its SC Rosa

[shy flower]

[hollow prism]

Probably Lyra right?

I mean we don’t know much but she is the MF so I would assume she’s going to be more critical

[shy flower]

Her being MF doesn't necessarily make her better, especially since her primary use outside of Grassy Terrain is guaranteed flinch

[forest ferry]

She also has excellent nuke and stat drops

And MF passive lets your tank soak more hits

In a way what she does is similar to cerena

Ramos : special focus moves, special sync , looks like poison weak mid

Erika : mixed focus moves(but can reset for physical moves), think it's special sync ( petal blizzard variant) , stun spore with TM1 (think after sync)

Mallow : physical focus moves, ghost physical sync (ez to abuse terrain) , ghost weak mid

Gardenia : physical moves, physical fighting sync, sure crit ( more terrain friendly )

Cilan : mostly special moves, physical grass sync, looks like rain gimmick ( can use terrain since moves are mostly water types)

The pastebin doesn't have stage conditions yet

[rugged fjord]

https://vxtwitter.com/absolutelypm/status/1739577651243909405

[arctic quest]

@chilly flame

[crude iron]

Two without a condition…? I don’t know if I should be relieved or scared… technically three if you ignore the cs gauge gimmick…

[sturdy glen]

All the stages are pretty much free:

• Erika has only sure para (not aoe) + para synergy 3
  team endurance and team interference immunity
• Cilan has 1 extended rain
  but only one side has water moves
  and the other one has refreshing rain
• Mallow has -80% special dmg

that's literally all

[cyan tusk]

Gardenia has -2 gauge

There’s no no healing stage

[chilly flame]

Gardenia ghost weak

Selenes time to shine

[grand perch]

Hell yeah

[sullen pier]

glad EXing her pays off

[chilly flame]

Half of Cilans difficulty is just negated if you have Adaman/Erika

[grand perch]

If we don’t?

[worldly parcel]

Conditions:

1: 3* Min Rarity | All Pairs (Limited Included) | Type | Sun Weather
2: Type | Special Defense Up‎

------------------------------

Lyra & Meganium
‎　⤷Solarize, Light Screen: Force Field 4

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[chilly flame]

I was about to search that

So you’re guaranteed missing the bonus in one stage

Unless there’s an Eggmon that has sunny day that’s not showing up here

[haughty haven]

Does Cilan only use Physical move ?

[chilly flame]

Seed bomb and bullet seed

[haughty haven]

If that the case, Acerola and Adaman should eat that all day

[chilly flame]

He has energy ball

[haughty haven]

Ew Special Move

[worldly parcel]

Conditions:

1: 3* Min Rarity | All Pairs (Limited Included) | Type | Special Defense Up‎

------------------------------

Barry & Roserade
‎　⤷THUD!!!
‎　⤷Mind Brace 4, Tighten Up 4
Blue & Exeggutor
‎　⤷Tighten Up 2
Erika & Tangela
‎　⤷Tangle with This!
Erika & Vileplume
‎　⤷X Sp. Def
Lyra & Meganium
‎　⤷Light Screen: Force Field 4
Mallow & Shiinotic
‎　⤷X Sp. Def All
Professor Sycamore & Bulbasaur
‎　⤷Shall We Start?
‎　⤷Leaf Storm: Acumen 9
Red & Venusaur
‎　⤷Toughen Up to Win!
Selene & Decidueye
‎　⤷Stare ’Em Down!
Shauna & Chesnaught
‎　⤷Team Dauntless Defender 9, Team Wise Entry 1
Sycamore (Holiday 2023) & Gogoat
‎　⤷Let’s All Have a Battle!

‎

Victor & Rillaboom
‎　⤷Max Quake

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[cyan tusk]

I would not eat terrain boosted bullet seeds actually

[main pulsar]

Poooooooooooooooooooooooooooog

[sleek crystal]

Is my grass roster good or do i need more exs

[hardy fog]

Good enough for what 180k?

[sleek crystal]

Yeah

[hardy fog]

Yea looks fine.

180k is not going to be hard

If you don't have enough ex you can offtype

[paper mist]

so Lodge Sycamore for Ramos, adaman/victor/scsonia/etc for mallow, Selene for Gardenia, sserika/adaman/etc for Cilan, Erika is kinda whatever

[hardy fog]

Still need to wait for conditions. Learning from previous hs there will likely be ‘sync dmg reduction’ or ‘tech stat reduction’ etc

[forest ferry]

We already know conditions

Challenge Ramos (Hard)
No special rules.

Challenge Erika (Hard)
Special Rule: Opponents are immune to status conditions and interference
Detail: Opponents are immune to status conditions and won’t flinch, become confused, or become trapped.

Challenge Mallow (Hard)
Special Rule: Ally special attack damage significantly reduced
Detail: Reduces the damage allies deal with special attack moves by 80%.

Challenge Gardenia (Hard)
Special Rule: Ally move gauge maximum –2
Detail: Reduces allies’ move gauge maximum by two.

Challenge Cilan (Hard)
No special rules

The conditions are lenient than prev HS but enemy moves all are fairly high dmg ( or it's razor leaf to chip damage)

[hardy fog]

What teams have you come up with so far

[forest ferry]

Other stuff are
Faster battle
More hits
Sun setting
Damage
MC/nature lover

Gotta think abt it

There's 2 stages with special sync

And I have no vallow or vycamore

So I am already out of race

[paper mist]

I have Vallow but won't candy her and I'm skipping Hycamore

[mortal timber]

they really do be asking you to use lyra for sun

[paper mist]

I mean she has a Support EX so she's useful for sync anyway

[forest ferry]

You need 5 sun setters for all pts

so far adaman, sserika, Lyra, bulurola are only options

Unless I am forgetting someone

[hardy fog]

So this doesn’t look too bad

Lame bro my Lyra is still 1/5

[paper mist]

I think that's it, so time to bring NCLeaf / SS Morty

[forest ferry]

SSmorty is most likely a waste of slot

[hardy fog]

But ss leaf def seem like it will have a place

[forest ferry]

If you are climbing

Leaf is defo having a place

I remember one of the stages has fire weak mid

[hardy fog]

Nc leaf*

Erika right

[forest ferry]

Yes

She's also special sync

So if you missed vallow or vycamore Ncleaf is a very strong slot

[paper mist]

Vycamore?

[hardy fog]

You just mean holiday sycamore

[forest ferry]

Oh yea Hycamore

he suks outside this event anyways so I'll forget his existence next month

[paper mist]

I lack Hycamore and SCSonia so I won't rank terribly high

also my Vallow and Victor are both 1/5

[forest ferry]

I only have 3 limited grass

[paper mist]

oh my Adaman is also 1/5 and idk if I'll candy him since I don't use him much

[hardy fog]

Lodge sycamore feels like is a second dps though

Still want another nuke

[forest ferry]

He is

Most likely victor

With him

Other stages have very strong competition

[hardy fog]

Mind you he still have double down

[forest ferry]

I don't remember any ground weak stage for him to abuse

[paper mist]

I don't think it's possible since Grass resist Ground anyway

[gleaming raven]

yeah

[paper mist]

any Ground weakness would be nullified

[hardy fog]

I’m def not pulling victor so

[paper mist]

any Bug weak for Infestation DPS gaming?

[hardy fog]

LSycamore it is

[forest ferry]

Pulling that victor banner is meme

Especially when MFs rule current hard content

[hardy fog]

O newbed. I was thinking about his sludge bomb

[forest ferry]

No mix red free gem banner is so annoying

Since he's like top 2 unit for this event

[hardy fog]

Get a part time job already 😂

[forest ferry]

Even if I do get paid, why would I spend for png

It's not like mix red alone would fix my shitty roster anyways

Since I also miss vallow, hycamore , sslyra

[hardy fog]

Well my argument is that you already have a massive sunk cost for playing the game

And if you spent just on the daily pack you already have far more resource

[forest ferry]

Nah, 1/5 units give me ocd

Part reason why I don't have a big roster is coz I also roll dupes to keep my units at 3/5

[hardy fog]

But you can roll more dupes with daily on rerun anyway 😂

[forest ferry]

Well I am also kind of losing motivation to roll non MFs

There's very few % MFs that aged badly compared to PFs

HS asking wide roster is also conflicting with that thought

Like NYclair looks excellent for dragon HS and I don't rly hate clair but it's not MF......

[hardy fog]

I like your strat just waiting for pf multi banner rerun anyway so that’s what I’m doing

[ornate turret]

they can't really make a bad MF anymore after the 3rd anni trio or people won't pull, and most of them are meta too
they also seem to rerun more multi PF banners now so it's better to wait unless you really like that unit

[forest ferry]

Yea rolling PF on release is such a scam

Especially when MFs have horrendous rate

And actually are closer to must get

X3 PFs are also like 4.5% to roll featured

[ornate turret]

seasonals units are getting better but eventually they will be powercrept by PF and MF or have very niche use

[hardy fog]

I don’t know if I want to try hard after grass though. Quite tiring

[forest ferry]

I mean
Cores with MFs still remain superior even if seasonal is good

[hardy fog]

Yea I’ve been lucky with the last 2 triple banners, now I know that I can likely get all 3 in 1 pity it’s better to save

[forest ferry]

Like only fairy has strong non MF roster

While stuff like Sliza while being strong doesn't have a good comp

[ornate turret]

fairy still needs a busted dps

most of the recent fairy are supports

[forest ferry]

Yea but still better than other types that lack a year 3 MF

[grand perch]

Lack of Adaman and Victor gonna bite me lol

[hardy fog]

You got the others like Alt Sonia and Rosa? I think they will be the others that will push for high points

[grand perch]

SConia and RoSCa yeah I have them

[hardy fog]

So what. Need 5 suns. We have to use Solaris Lyra + potentially nc leaf right? I think someone mentioned earlier.

[main pulsar]

FIVE?

[sullen pier]

One of the bonus conditions is setting sun

[glossy ravine]

we only have what, three sun setting grasses, no

four, with Adaman

[worldly parcel]

Conditions:

1: 3* Min Rarity | All Pairs (Limited Included) | Type | Sun Weather‎

------------------------------

Adaman & Leafeon
‎　⤷Time Flows over Hisui
Lyra & Meganium
‎　⤷Solarize
Sygna Suit Acerola & Tapu Bulu
‎　⤷Sunny Day
Sygna Suit Erika & Leafeon
‎　⤷Sunny Day

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[sullen pier]

[oak fulcrum]

does that mean I’m going to have to EX my Lyra in case I want to try pushing points?

[sullen pier]

I think thats necessary if you want to get most points possible

[crude iron]

so now that we have the stage details, yall think i might need +1 grass ex to smoothly grab 180k? with a almost f2p box i dont see myself bothering going beyond.

[oak fulcrum]

honestly I might as well, I recently decided to commit to EXing as many supports as I could for gauntlet so it wouldn't conflict with that objective

[hardy fog]

Got nc leaf? 😂

Sadddd I don’t want to ex Lyra

[acoustic tendon]

my lyra is still 1/5 still worth an ex?

[hardy fog]

1/5 won’t do what you need it to do

Needs solarize tile at 3/5

Actually I’m same as you I thought I had 2/5 lyra

[crude iron]

nope thats the one of that trio i hard skipped

[hardy fog]

I see. 180k won’t be too hard to get anyway. Offtype on 3rd slot works perfectly fine for 36k.

[crude iron]

whats the mid weaknesses this time around?

[hardy fog]

If you scroll up there is a Twitter post shared

It’s in the pastebin

[crude iron]

ive looked at pastebin but which ones mid

like in ramos, Weakness: Poison Dark Fairy

whats the order of weaknesses to the enemies

[hardy fog]

O not sure. It won’t be long before they release the info graph I believe

[hardy fog]

Your roster is quite interesting. When did you start playing

[crude iron]

2nd anni runup

Took a break somewhere between 2.5 and 3rd till like 3.5

[hardy fog]

I see explains the Anni n but no rats

[crude iron]

Even if I was around during rats I wouldn’t of pulled

Not a fan of pikachu

If anything I mighta pulled Cynthia

[hardy fog]

You mean you are not a fan of the goat of the pokemon franchise

[crude iron]

Never was interested by pikachu tbh

Even growing up I preferred other mons

I do have a friend who’s fav mon is that rodent tho

[hardy fog]

Actually I'm the same 😂 always rolled for water starter because it was always OP.

[crude iron]

I sorta bounced around all the types tbh

Charmander > Totodile > Treecko > Piplup > Snivy > Fennekin > Litten > Sobble/Scorbunny (equal) > Sprigatito

[shy flower]

The first one is the middle's weakness

[crude iron]

Thanks. So if planning an offtype unit, aiming for a good type vs mid is a good idea unless the gap between that and my best offtype units is too big?

[shy flower]

Yep, unless that offtype unit is NC Blue or NC Rosa

[crude iron]

yeah unless its the support slot

mostly referring to dps

[shy flower]

Then yes

[crude iron]

erika i can use one of my several fire types on i guess, if i grab cinderace from select might try her there tbh...
...would it be meme to even consider PSerena vs Gardenia i feel like thatd be too far from stuff like CSerena to be worth

might consider Gilbert vs Cilan

overall prob depends where i spend my good grass dps options on

[shy flower]

Palerena is probably not quite good enough to carry over a Grass type. You'd need someone like NY Lisia or SS Wally if I had to guess

[crude iron]

fair, her and sumarnie are like the only two fairies i have that are limited i think

[shy flower]

I see you have S Lyra

SS Hilbert, SS Hilda/SS May, NC Blue, and NC Rosa are the off-type options that jump out to me given your roster

[crude iron]

I pretend that Lyra doesn’t exist

[crude iron]

How many copies would gloralt need to be possibly worthwhile? Checking incase I Select her. Depends on pools of the banners this year that we don’t know fully

[shy flower]

iirc she wants at least 3/5. You shouldn't have to go much beyond that, especially since you're going for Fire typing

[hardy fog]

Ss hilda and ss may both does more dmg

[shy flower]

I don't think they strictly do. Gloria brings rebuff and better gauge too

[hardy fog]

1 down

[royal tiger]

here we go.

man, all of them have resilience :<

and Lessen Trap 10

[crude iron]

I mean, don’t all hse stages get that?

It’s no surprise they’d do it on the type that has Perma flinch bot anyways

[hardy fog]

I love how you have Flannery as your fifth stage 😂

[royal tiger]

oh right

[royal tiger]

For my teams for now

vs Ramos - SS Leaf (3) + Lodge Blue + Lodge Sycamore
vs Erika - H-Sycamore (1), Sceptile, Lodge Gloria or Victor (1)
vs Mallow - Shauna, Selene and Egg Leafeon.
vs Gardenia - Dawn, Mix Red (1) and SS Lyra (1)

And finally, against Cilan - Adaman (1), Meganium and Bp Barry

That should do it initially hum.

[hardy fog]

Team 2 gauge going to be OK?

[royal tiger]

I could get gauge action with 2/5 h sycamore

But ill have to see

[cunning shore]

Why does support grookey have a goddamn solar blade

[timber hull]

Shall wait for the Google docs to be updated before planning the teams

[haughty haven]

2nd Solar Blade user

[cunning shore]

I understand the one for striker eggmon

But why support eggmon too?

[sullen pier]

SS Erika's bestie

[chilly kayak]

the 3 supports have the striker damaging move for no reason

[hardy fog]

I'll definitely won't run out of mg2 this HS run 😂

[hardy fog]

I don't think Victor will make a dent with what I have. What yall think? It's likely I use NC leaf and Lsycamore as well, if i use mallow then I have 10 dmg options.

If I don't use mallow I can use double support

[sturdy glen]

lyra will probably need of 3/5 so use all ur johto tickets

red and acerola not at 3/5 will probably hurt if u go for top 100
same for the lack of vMallow

[hardy fog]

I can candy red and acerola

But Lyra 🥹 def not seeing 3/5 lol

Vmallow - fingers crossed for mix 😂

[hardy fog]

How's your roster looking

[sturdy glen]

i can ex some stuff
and bring sonia + adaman to 3/5
but i'll see what to do after a few days

[hardy fog]

O sheeeeeeeeeet your HSycamore is 3/5

[sturdy glen]

also hoping that i'll get something extra for dailies

[hardy fog]

I think we will have like at least 3 similar team comps

I don't feel like you are going to candy sc Rosa as well?

[sturdy glen]

not enough candies

my only hope is that i miracolously find a copy from the mix
so i can use my third one

[hardy fog]

Are you pulling Victor? Prob not

[sturdy glen]

no

probably dailies because it could be helpful
getting the leaf skill that debuffs attacks

[hardy fog]

Gotta save my gems for ssa otherwise I would def invest more in dailies

[shy flax]

so the 4 grass pairs that set Sun are SS Acerola, SS Erika, Adaman, and Lyra....? am i missing one?

[true sparrow]

those 4

[shy flower]

I'm sure NC Leaf and/or SS Morty will be used a lot at least partially because of that

[main pulsar]

You only need sun in one stage no?

[true sparrow]

all of them

1k points

[main pulsar]

Oh

Interesting

Ncleaf winning xd

[true sparrow]

'tho there's a possibilty, if you have all grass units invested, that having a team without sun is better point wise

[sturdy glen]

it will probably be

[main pulsar]

Wasn’t the number 1 team last time had a non fire and non electric types

Back then

[shy flower]

I think one team will be higher with NC Leaf than with all Grass types, but that'll probably be it

I'd love to see all Grass types taking the win though

[sturdy glen]

only on fire edition

[main pulsar]

I remember seeing ncleaf in there number one team for electric

I don’t remember the off type for fire tho

[sturdy glen]

ops my bad i meant electric edition

[shy flower]

Both did

Electric had NC Leaf, Fire had Foxanne

[main pulsar]

What a strange pick

[true sparrow]

[shy flower]

Foxanne? Not really. She's one of our best, if not our very best, Ground DD and helped counter Blaine's bullshit

[main pulsar]

Blaine wasn’t the fire blast spammer though was her

That was flint wasn’t it

It’s been too long I forgot everything honestly

[true sparrow]

Blaine was Fire Blast

Flint was Flare Blitz

[main pulsar]

Oh

[outer whale]

Anyone start the spreadsheet for grass HSE?

[sturdy glen]

there are only the tiles rn

[outer whale]

Just did a glance and..... it's actually pretty lax compared to previous HSEs

[main pulsar]

no healing is cringe

so this is pog

[sturdy glen]

true to both

[outer whale]

Erika knows about SSLyra's bs

[main pulsar]

anti interference hm

is that new

[outer whale]

New as a HSE rule

[true sparrow]

I don't think it's new

Misty had it unless I'm mistaken

yep

[sturdy glen]

yeah but rn is not a problem right?

[outer whale]

New score rule too.

Aim for more damage

[sturdy glen]

isnt 20k very low?

[outer whale]

It is but considering it's Grass HSE and the defense can be a bit yikes, It's fair imo

Most Grass Units don't really have that amazing of a nuke afaik.

Think there's like.... 4? With a broken nuke?

[sturdy glen]

oh wait... that needs to be applied on every stage

ok that makes sense

[main pulsar]

that is a interesting condition

[hardy fog]

Broken? My first dps banner was Adaman. I just thought everything else was bad 😂

[outer whale]

In HSE. Anything that has a subpar nuke is a good nuke at this point lmao

Incoming Dawn Sync Nuke DPS.

Ok so notable things with the battles.

[shy flower]

Dawn, Rosa, and Lyra

[outer whale]

Ramos: mid has three uses of Surf, and one side will spam hyper beam, the other will spam earthquake when mid is KOed.

Erika: all mons have endure gardenia will try to paralyze you but only one target it seems.

Mallow: will be all physical, sides have rock slide No one has grass moves so GT is effective here.

Gardenia: no Grass moves here either so also GT abusable. Will abuse critical hit next effects.

Cilan: will use Rain. Negate it immediately. Uses all special attacks move.
The interesting caveat.... Rain isn't for Cilan himself, it's for a Ludicolo sidemon only.

[royal tiger]

H.Sycamore is gonna be great with VS Erika since he learns Lithe in his 1/5 grid.

[sullen pier]

Will NC Rosa be a great offtype option like NC Blue or NC Leaf?

[shy flower]

Probably, though I imagine NC Leaf will be the best

[sullen pier]

Imagine having her

[shy flower]

[sullen pier]

Idk if i can reach 3k5 points goal

Missing Adaman and VMallow and HSyca sucks

[shy flower]

I think you can do it if you offtype enough

[sullen pier]

I also dont have many great offtype options invested

1/5 NC Blue

[shy flower]

I'm sure we can come up with something. I'm gonna be doing support nuke memes at first to see how bad the stages are

[sullen pier]

real

Oh SS Morty is also a great offtype. Hopefully he doesnt need 3/5

[hardy fog]

What’s 3k5 goal

[sullen pier]

350,000 pts

400k is a bit coping for me

At least i have 2 spare tech candies so i can invest on a tech

[royal tiger]

i'm just gonna aim for 180k .-.;

if i go over, it'll be fine o/

[main pulsar]

nc leaf winning

everyone underestimating her on release

[sullen pier]

including me

but i didnt have gems for her after pulling Blue and Red

[hardy fog]

Go with this or keep going?

I'm thinking of just doing the pin... but if yall say it's still horrible ill reconsider

[outer whale]

Gonna do some preliminary rankings for a bit. won't post any until tomorrow, but just to get a head start.

[outer whale]

just for some early discussions, here's what I have so far. I'll do all supports tonight then do the rest sometime tomorrow.

also added that Dawn can heal Paralysis from Erika through TM however, personally for me, kind of a waste of her one use TM if you don't take much damage

[hardy fog]

Nice summary

Looks like everyone is average against Ramos and Erika lol

OG Erika seems solid vs Ramos and Rei mentioned Hsycamore having lithe for Erika

I guess Erika is still inferior compared to vMallow, but solid F2P option

[outer whale]

Ok, got supports done.

[hardy fog]

You need OG Erika in support imo 😂

[outer whale]

I'm just going by role, not their actual role

[sullen pier]

BP Barry's bulk is not that good tbh

i would rank him lower

[hardy fog]

Then I guess you need Hsycamore

In there

[sullen pier]

HSycamore is still missing yeah

he is the best tank no doubt

[hardy fog]

But looking like a solid write up

Base on what Link has there though Syca pretty much goes to Erika

Acerola goes to final stage to abuse terrain

[outer whale]

I didn't see HSycamore in the list, my B, will add him rn.

Last two for the night.

[sullen pier]

i would rank Red B on Mallow stage

nerfing his damage which is a great part of his kit is not good

[outer whale]

I was gonna move his Gardenia to S tbh

gardenia doesn't abuse the GT making it ez for him

[sullen pier]

why? does she even have Grass move?

ah

Ramos too right

[outer whale]

Ramos has some grass moves which could pose a threat

[sullen pier]

im still waiting for infographic so i havent looked into stages info yet

[outer whale]

Ramos has Energy ball, leaf storm, and giga drain

[sullen pier]

thats punishing if he ever uses Leaf Storm

[outer whale]

but he also has surf and Mud shot

[hardy fog]

Any chance we add nc blue and ss morty in there

[outer whale]

which is weird

I'll add other units that can help out at the end, this is to focus mostly on grass units for now

[sullen kestrel]

What do the letters mean

[outer whale]

we have a Grading sheet for units in the pins

this is for said grading sheet

Ex.

[sullen kestrel]

Oh the letters represent one of the fights

[outer whale]

I'm going by this order
Ramos/Erika/Mallow/Gardenia/Cilan

[sullen kestrel]

Im assuming thats the order it’ll be in when the event is live

[outer whale]

correct, i'm going by the spreadsheet order Absol had

[sullen pier]

i think NC Blue, NC Leaf and SS Morty are the notable options

[outer whale]

that's what i'm thinking as well

[sullen pier]

i dont know about stages' main weaknesses so maybe there are some good ontype dmg dealers too

like Fall Roxanne and NC Serena in Fire HS

[outer whale]

I'm keeping an eye on those, but so far, most type weaknesses are very..... niche

[sullen kestrel]

If there’s an ice weak stage, maybe 2 decent grass supports (or 1 and a tech) + nc red 3/5 EXR

[outer whale]

for example: Ramos is.... Poison/Dark/Fairy

for weaknesses

[shy flower]

Weaknesses are Poison, Fire, Ghost, Fairy, Bug in that order

For the middles

[royal tiger]

Sludge Bomb spam with Lodge Sycamore 😮

[outer whale]

Oh god, Selene meta for Mallow real

[sullen kestrel]

Oh there isnt one

[shy flower]

NC Red continues to be behind his friends || ||

[sullen pier]

SS Roxie might be one of the great ontype dmg dealers

or Oleana

[shy flower]

SS Roxie comes to mind for me as well

[sullen pier]

about the last 3 types, i dont think they have great options that rival SS Roxie/Oleana and NC Leaf

[sullen kestrel]

Lodge Sycamore, SS Hilda, Selene, NY Lisia maybe?, id bring SS Hilbert but he’ll only be SE on the sides

[shy flower]

NY Lisia is what I considered too, but I don't know if she'll be good enough

[outer whale]

Type Weaknesses:
Ramos: Poison Dark Fairy
Erika: Fire Psychic Bug
Mallow: Ghost Fire Ice
Gardenia: Fairy Fight Poison
Cilan: Bug Flying Steel

[royal tiger]

something like this @outer whale ? 😮

[sullen kestrel]

Ill try 2 on type 1 off type maybe, so ny lisia + a grass DD

[sullen pier]

she doesnt have good bulk to tank in higher strengths, i doubt you can go for 500+ with her unless you use op defensive supports

[shy flower]

Wycamore might be enough

[sullen kestrel]

Could bring ss roxie lsycamore and a support

But my roxie is 1/5

[sullen pier]

i think that team is fine in the range of 300 strength

[outer whale]

p much rei, keep in mind, i'm not editing the spreadsheet speicfically, that's Sages.

[sullen pier]

higher tho

[sullen kestrel]

Im only going for 180k, dont want to go higher since I have the medal and dont want to mess up my ticket count

[outer whale]

But I will write down the initial gradings just so we have pre-grading

[royal tiger]

oh that's my own spreadsheet xD

[sullen pier]

okay then the team should clear easily

[royal tiger]

thing is, you can't even burn Erika 😭

[outer whale]

I'll continue the analyses more tomorrow morning, but hope the Support + red analysis is enough content for now.

[shy flower]

If you're running a Fire type on Erika and you're not using NC Leaf, I think SS May is better than SS Hilda

[sullen pier]

my thought as well

[outer whale]

Just for convienence sake:

Support Grass HSE Analysis + Mix Red

[royal tiger]

i think you can run NC Leaf against Erika, just for the stat drops + nuke.
Dont think she has any Burn Synergy or something.

[outer whale]

erika has Paralysis synergy

but if you have sun up, supports can use solar shield to bypass paralysis.

[sullen kestrel]

I only have hilda morty and red for fire limiteds

I wanted may but I only had 1 multi, and morty is alr 3/5

I do plan to get her leaf and gloria eventually tho

[shy flower]

You're probably better off just using Morty on one of the stages then

[hardy fog]

Looking at these rankings, it was actually on point for the fire HS.

[sullen kestrel]

ill plan my teams tmrw

[royal tiger]

hum, yeah i had Selene for Mallow, Lodge Sycamore + SS Leaf + BP Barry for Ramos, Adaman against Cilan, Dawn for gardenia.

THen H.Sycamore + Sceptile against Erika

[haughty haven]

I want to check Pastebins, and remember my country ban it

[sullen pier]

wait for the infographic then

[royal tiger]

want a googledoc version @haughty haven ? D:?

[outer whale]

alright heading to bed, when I wake up, i'll go ham on all the tech units and maybe strikers. idk but

[hardy fog]

Who are candying their HSycamore to 3/5? 😂 @cyan tusk ?

[sullen pier]

How to candy Sycamore from 0/5 to 3/5

[hardy fog]

Easy. pulls out credit card

[sullen pier]

[shy flower]

Just daily him to 3/5 That's what I did

[hardy fog]

Waiiiit what

Prove it

[cyan tusk]

Emmm

#gacha-and-flex message

[hardy fog]

Wait how do you get to 49/400 so you did like 1 multi?

Sigh I can't muster the strength to do it 😂

[cyan tusk]

Bc the paid banner exists

[hardy fog]

Flip i can't justify it lol.

[cyan tusk]

Bad thing is
My toaster is stacked
My will to start planning: no.

[hardy fog]

🥳🥳I'll be cheering for your top 10 again

[cyan tusk]

I could but it’s a will issue, I’m tired from climbing lg

Only thing I can see is SSAcerola on mallow bc of physical damage

[hardy fog]

You got 2 weeks to rest and celebrate new years

[cyan tusk]

I might start some planning these days

[hardy fog]

Then back at work. We already know you are going to do it 😂

[cyan tusk]

I need the beautiful summary pics

[hardy fog]

What time zone you in

[cyan tusk]

CET

8 am in the morning rn, good morning 🇮🇹

[hardy fog]

I see

Yooo this fomo is real

Not worth it. 3/5 is 25k max 🧘‍♂️

[cyan tusk]

I was actually gonna candy him anyway I don’t like 2/5 stuff when 3/5 has full potential btw

[hardy fog]

I only lost 20k for 1/5 Evelyn. Hoping it won't be massive diff this hs as well

Actually enigma got 115k with 1/5

[cyan tusk]

First draft

Ramos -> VMallow
Erika -> Hsyca
Mallow -> SSAcerola
Gardenia -> Dawn + SSlyra/Mixre
Cilan -> Adaman

[hardy fog]

Hmm I thought ss Ace and mix red go cilan

[cyan tusk]

Mallow and gardenia are physical with no grass Nuke so grassy terrain can easily go there

[royal tiger]

No SS Acerola, so Selene for Mallow o/

[outer whale]

Just woke up. Give me like an hour.

[outer whale]

I'm currently working on techs atm.

[outer whale]

TECH GRASS HSE PRE-ANALYSIS

do not be afraid to debate the gradings as well, i'm doing my best to try and account for everything, but is difficult to remember every minute detail.

[sullen pier]

since when we have Variety Erika

[outer whale]

i meant BP

also, I moved HSycamore to A+ for Erika.

I forgor that Rebuff is considered an interference

[sullen pier]

oh we must inflict a status change on Erika?

[outer whale]

She cannot be inflicted by Status conditions or interference at all.

which makes negative rebuff not that great there since it's well..... interference

[sullen pier]

no, interference only includes trap, flinch and confusion

negative rebuffs, restrain, no miss... should work fine

[outer whale]

OH, that's good to know then, I genuinely thought that rule meant every type of interference

[sullen pier]

interference is a small group within status changes

[outer whale]

so moved HSycamore back to S, and moved Adaman to A from A-

[hollow prism]

I would assume Adaman’s placement doesn’t matter because almost anyone that has him is going to use him on the team that he’s most efficient on

Like almost no one used C leaf on a non Kiawe stage for example

[outer whale]

He has sun, so he can be very useful for Cilan's battle which uses Rain

[hollow prism]

The question is which stage he’s going to be best on, and yeah removing Cilan’s rain is probably a big one

Resetting sun on syncs is really dumb

[outer whale]

keep in mind though that there are other sun setters so, having options for him in other stages is good.

[hollow prism]

Yeah we don’t know where he’ll be placed yet

I was thinking Mallow possibly but idk if setting sun helps her

[outer whale]

No, the only WTZ you need to be weary about is GT.

no one has any fire moves or solar blade/beam to be a threat

[hollow prism]

Which stages does the enemy have non grass moves

None of them?

[outer whale]

Gardenia, and Mallow iirc

both have no grass moves

[hollow prism]

Ew why does mallow have to be one

Lyra has to be on Mallow then 100% and Mix red on Gardenia

[outer whale]

that's why

also keep in mind, Mallow is Physical damage only

[hollow prism]

Yes that’s why

Wait i forget if red is physical or special

[outer whale]

Mix red is Special

[hollow prism]

I thought he was special but he has razor leaf

[outer whale]

but has physical options

[hollow prism]

Yeah but Lyra has a physical Grassy Glide

[outer whale]

the only notable thing in his kit is a physical max move which is...... alright?

but frenzy plant won't do much

[hollow prism]

Yeah but that’s the whole damage

Lyra needs another unit to nuke with her

But lyra def has to go on mallow then

[outer whale]

SSAcreola

[hollow prism]

Nah a physical sync nuker

[outer whale]

OH, my b

there's Mallow

[hollow prism]

Yeah but acerola would be busted on mallow

Does SC Sonia or Victor synergize well with Acerola Lyra

And do either have a good nuke

[outer whale]

Victor yes, SC Sonia as well

[sullen pier]

you really expect Lyra tanking physical moves? her defense is ass

[hollow prism]

With Acerola yeah

[sullen pier]

i think its a waste tbh

[hollow prism]

And also where else are you using Grass terrain

[outer whale]

while we're talking about her, here.

[sullen pier]

both 3/5 Acerola and Lyra wants to sync, and if Lyra is not syncing she is a deadweight

[outer whale]

Erika is immune to flinch

not Gardenia

[sullen pier]

and Light Screen goes to waste

[hollow prism]

Oh whoops

[sullen pier]

is there any stage special-heavy?

[outer whale]

Ramos and Cilan

Erika is mixed.

[hollow prism]

Yeah but then you get hit hard by the special moves boosted by grass

And our special tanks are limited

[outer whale]

cilan does have seed bomb and bullet seed, but most of his moves are specials

one thing i should note..... Cilan's gimmick doesn't help him specifically, it helps a ludicolo sidemon

[hollow prism]

I really don’t see Lyra being that good unless a team works on Mallow, there’s got to be a way to tank the first sync

[sullen pier]

she is awkward to use yeah, but i see no point running her in Mallow team

idk why you ignore Light Screen

[outer whale]

this ludicolo is the true monster here.

[hollow prism]

Lyra wouldn’t nuke though

[sullen pier]

https://tenor.com/view/mexican-dancing-pokemon-ludicolo-gif-8176036

[outer whale]

https://tenor.com/view/ludicolo-gif-25620373

[sullen pier]

i didnt say she will nuke

but you have to sync with her for bonus points

[hollow prism]

Nah I was thinking Acerola Lyra and a physical unit like Sonia or Victor

And you just never sync with her

[sullen pier]

[hollow prism]

This is assuming you have all the pairs though

Which is what i’m working out rn

[sturdy glen]

not really... acerola can still give her sun

[hollow prism]

I’m not sure how big SSErika’s sync is but Adaman, Victor, Sonia, and Dawn is 4, and if Erika can get high damage that’s all 5 for the condition

[sullen pier]

2 uses

[hollow prism]

Surely there’s a way to get 20k each stage or close without Lyra sync

[sullen pier]

Acerola also covers enough offensive buffs, so Lyra's buffs mostly go to waste

also dont ping me pls

[hollow prism]

Yeah idk if Acerola would be best on that stage specifically but that’s kind of what i’m thinking

[sturdy glen]

so what?
lyra still has to do one sync because support ex
so you 3 uses which is good for an hse run

[hollow prism]

Maybe Dawn would work well

[sullen pier]

also dont ping me pls

[hollow prism]

Wait

[sullen pier]

[hollow prism]

I SEE THE ISSUE NOW

I’m talking about Lyra Celebi

You guys are thinking of the wrong unit

[sullen pier]

[sturdy glen]

uhhhhhhhhhh

[hollow prism]

I was like “what do you mean light screen”

[sturdy glen]

how was i supposed to know this?

[outer whale]

I have four more units left to do

[hollow prism]

You did it again lol

Ok but do you see why I’m thinking Lyra Celebi has to go on Mallow?

[sturdy glen]

i turned off the ping on the last answer

[hollow prism]

Ok fair

+reading

[quartz tapir]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855438548684374045/1069103333429747752/image-2.png

[hollow prism]

If we’re talking about BASE lyra then idk if i’m even going to use her tbh

[sturdy glen]

you mean with acerola?
isnt the combo overkill?

[hollow prism]

Yes but what i’m saying is she has to be used on a stage where Grass isn’t going to come back and screw her over

And Mallow is the only stage that doesn’t present a big problem

Actually i could see Gardenia because I did mix up the conditions before

[sturdy glen]

yeah but there are two stages without grass moves
so why not separate them?

[hollow prism]

Yeah on second thought Acerola into Mallow and Lyra into Gardenia isn’t bad if you split

[outer whale]

almost done

[outer whale]

STRIKER GRASS HSE PRE-ANALYSIS

PRE GRADING ANALYSIS FOR GRASS HIGH SCORE EVENT https://docs.google.com/document/d/1osGtcYk1I-8_4CN3KyP2kw64tNuweEWaD0ilomvLKXA/edit?usp=sharing

@onyx crystal for you.

currently thinking of other mons outside of grass that can be useful.

Already thinking of NCBlue, NCLeaf, and NCRosa

[true sparrow]

Victor doesn't have grassy terrain

[outer whale]

Max move doesn't apply it?

huh. my bad

[sturdy glen]

it's another move

[outer whale]

fixed it

Just an Addenium.

[hardy fog]

Need ss morty in there 🥹

[outer whale]

oooh good one, forgor him

[hardy fog]

Looking like a solid list regardless

[outer whale]

added SSMorty

[sullen pier]

Do you think SS Roxie is useful on Ramos? Or whatever stage that has Poison weakness

[true sparrow]

yes, she can be a good pick

[sullen pier]

I assume Oleana is good as well? Since offensive debuffs are good in HS

[true sparrow]

not as good as Roxie, but yeah

[outer whale]

actually....

[sturdy glen]

can ssa cynthia be relevant?
she tanks and heal a lot

[true sparrow]

EQ is after center dies

which shouldn't happen before center with aoe nuke

[hardy fog]

Also. There was a grading checklist doc that @radiant pebble and friends made. I thought that info is good to use for planning. Anyone have access to that?

[sturdy glen]

3rd pinned

[hardy fog]

It was a diff one that looked at every buff / debuff that each pair gave as a checklist

And a few more things

[outer whale]

Added

[radiant pebble]

Uuuuh

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b2f8kWjYE0J4gzuVyr7tuybUF4n1jjT2HoeK3jsJQjQ/edit?usp=drivesdk

[outer whale]

Oh god, idk if it's me, but it's a bit difficult for me to read it.

[cyan tusk]

Sc Sonia does not have relentless

[hardy fog]

Cheers

It's def not easy to read. But it's comprehensive and the thought process is good.

The challenge I'm trying to solve right now is I can't remember who has what buffs or debuffs and how much lol so feel like a spreadsheet with all of those would make planning easier. I think the above doc is good with some small mods.

Ie right now it's like a grading. Whereas for planning you want the actual number. Ie max -6 sp def etc

[outer whale]

i mentioned any type of notable buffs and debuffs in my doc

[hardy fog]

Yeap it’s really useful. I think I just want the number of buff and missing buffs. You know what I mean?

[radiant pebble]

That's what you get when you want to be as objective and thorough as possible

Otherwise that works too but eh

[forest ferry]

Ramos below rosa and BP Barry
Wtf

[outer whale]

Ramos literally cannot do much aside from sleep, and Rosa can actually tank special attacks.

checks out

[forest ferry]

rosa isn't tanking much with just pure bulk......psure Ramos with his TM buffs and sleep abuse can let you force in higher str than rosa ever can

[outer whale]

I'd argue Lodge sycamore go to very low B tier just because of Ramos Weakness to poison

same tier as Selene

[hardy fog]

Not sure about other but I don’t feel this rank list is much use for actual planning. 😂Maybe helps with a glance to see where your overall roster sits

[outer whale]

oh shoot, i forgot SSErika

Ok added.

i'm done now. will focus on other things.

[hardy fog]

This is roughly what I was imagining. Any ideas on improvement before I add more?

The columns were already there I guess it's just more detail and someone actually filling it out

[hardy fog]

Is Erika Sp Sync or Ph Sync?

[outer whale]

Which one?

Bp erika: special
SsErika: physical
Erika: special

[sullen pier]

How about opponent Erika

[hardy fog]

Opponent haha

[outer whale]

Special

[hardy fog]

Cheers

[outer whale]

Petal dance is.... special right?

[hardy fog]

Link is your summary in a doc?

[outer whale]

Ok
Ramos: Grass Special sync
Erika: Grass Special sync
Mallow: Ghost Physical Sync
Gardenia: Fighting Physical Sync
Cilan: Grass Physical Sync

[hardy fog]

Cilan has grass sync right?

[outer whale]

Ye

[outer whale]

What do you mean summary?

[hardy fog]

yes your write up

[outer whale]

Oh yea, everything is on there.

The only thing i didn't put was the battle itself, you can look at Absol's twitter for that.

[sullen pier]

Yes. While Petal Blizzard is physical

Idt Petal Dance is in the game, i have never seen anyone including NPC using the move

[outer whale]

It's Vileplume's Sync move

So it's weird being subjected to just a sync

[hardy fog]

Just looking at this again. For Acerola. Why is she S for Cilan? Not worried about sync? Also I thought Gardenia is the one with no grass moves.

[outer whale]

Sun setting

Cilan sets rain

[hardy fog]

should she be S for Gardenia? Since all physical moves, no grass

[outer whale]

and yes, Gardenia has no grass moves.
Tapu Bulu's weak to poison.

Gardenia has Poison moves.

[hardy fog]

I see

[outer whale]

specifically Poison Jab and Cross Poison

hence A Tier

She will still be great for the stage, but if you're having her tank, you're gonna have trouble when a Poison can potentially 2HKO or even OHKO at higher values

[hardy fog]

I think there is no need. She seems to go well with what you ranked.

[soft sedge]

SS Acerola / Tapu Bulu is weak to Flying, not Poison

[outer whale]

i could have sworn i saw poison as her weakness

if thats the case, s it is

[hardy fog]

I've never noticed that SS Leaf has not a single self offense buff

[cunning shore]

Need 50 hits in a minute
Magic.

[cunning shore]

Her only downside is not giving herself crit

[shy flower]

Bullet Seed highrolling

[hardy fog]

she has off buffs?

[cunning shore]

No, she has brutal debuffs especially at 5/5
Where she also gets power play, but no buffs or crit to utilize it. I say crit because it's easier to help you deal dmg even when you're debuffed

[hardy fog]

I see

Rate my teams https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LT5_eMZG84rf7N_myOPEl3C1XxMhySf2CrvxquIypnA/edit?usp=sharing

Kinda lost tbh 😂

I feel like Uncle Barry could go to Ramos

Ramos - Uncle Barry, Lyra, SS Leaf.

Horrible or doable?

[shy flower]

Looks like a bit of a struggle, but we don't really know yet since we don't have the stages

[hardy fog]

SS Leaf not enough dmg you think?

[shy flower]

I don't think so. Maybe if you have her at 5/5?

[sullen pier]

BP Barry's paralysis conflicts with Leaf's poison tho

[hardy fog]

yea I have her at 5/5 🥹

trueeeee

the other one Im thinking is SS Morty, SS Leaf, 1/5 Lyra

OR SS Morty, SS Leaf, Rosa

Need Lyra / Rosa for Sp Attack and MC tag

I'd imagine I can go really high strength with that

[sullen pier]

Do note that Barry doesnt have defensive tools for allies, so I would use him on teams already having defensive profile

[shy flower]

What move level is Rosa?

[hardy fog]

2/5...

[shy flower]

[hardy fog]

I have 1/5 Lyra 2/5 Rosa and 5/5 SS Leaf 😂

[shy flower]

I think it's still lacking damage. You'd have plenty of survivability, but that doesn't help when the enemy syncs for the second time and wipes you

I don't know 5/5 SS Leaf's damage all that well, so she could surprise me, but I'm not confident in it

[sullen pier]

At 5/5 she has pretty good

Power Play + Relentless

[hardy fog]

I mean if I have Morty and a Rosa self healing

[sullen pier]

And atk + spatk debuffs which are good for HS

[hardy fog]

she can prob last a long time

lol

[shy flower]

Yeah, you can last, but the enemy's second sync will almost definitely wipe the field at high strength

You can't stall HS stages

[haughty haven]

Yes, that why i always roll for defensive stat for Skill Gear, just 20 more SpD made i could do way higher str than other like Morty-Silver-Anni N vs Flannery

[hardy fog]

that's right, in that fight you had to survive 2nd sync

[shy flower]

[hardy fog]

its weird though, if SS Leaf take both power play and relentless, she cant get the debuff tile

how many stats do you need for power play to max

[shy flower]

Either 15 or 18 if I remember correctly

[hardy fog]

ok 18 is not bad just need to max debuff 3 stat

[cunning shore]

Goddamn shaymin and green ape are subs

[hardy fog]

I'm pretty sure there is a box that say 'have' and it's not ticked

😂

Just had a trial run. Dropping toxic freebie and debuff tile for relentless. Don't think it's worth it. The gauge becomes much clunkier so dropping frenzy plant dmg more often and hard to get triple queue consistently (depends on team comp, def cant do 2 and 3 gauge). Also I think the debuff is too valuable to give up. Feel like a waste putting ss leaf to Ramos and should go to one of the ones with mixed dmg..

[hollow prism]

We only have 4 on type sun setters correct?

And they’re Adaman Lyra Acerola and SSErika?

[hardy fog]

Nc leaf 🥹 prob your 5th setter

Relentless vs no relentless

[shy flax]

Yes

[light star]

do we have a chart of the stage details similar to the last 2?

[hardy fog]

Not yet

[outer whale]

We already have the analysis for each unit, but the infographic isn't complete just yet.

Type Weaknesses:
Ramos: Poison Dark Fairy (grass special sync)
Erika: Fire Psychic Bug (Grass Special Sync)
Mallow: Ghost Fire Ice (Ghost Physical Sync
Gardenia: Fairy Fight Poison (Fighting Physical Sync)
Cilan: Bug Flying Steel (Grass Physical Sync)

Ramos: mid has three uses of Surf, and one side will spam hyper beam, the other will spam earthquake when mid is KOed. No param

Erika: all mons have endure gardenia will try to paralyze you but only one target it seems. Has multipliers if hitting paralyzed opponent. Param is Cannot status or interfere opponents.

Mallow: will be all physical, sides have rock slide No one has grass moves so GT is effective here. Param is Physical moves only

Gardenia: no Grass moves here either so also GT abusable. Will abuse critical hit next effects. Beware of Poison moves here. Param is 4 move gauges

Cilan: will use Rain. Negate it immediately. Uses special attacks move but physical sync move.
The interesting caveat.... Rain isn't for Cilan himself, it's for a Ludicolo sidemon only. No Param.

All the basic info you need @light star

[frank shore]

Thanks!

[cyan tusk]

I have my draft of 5 teams and I can already tell you I’m about to throw Lyra to hell and use only 3 sun

[hardy fog]

Tell me the ss leaf team

[cyan tusk]

Well…. She might move actually

Bc I have a team with no mc/nature lover

Gimme 2 min imma put them into the game for screenshot

[true sparrow]

Friendly reminder that SS Leaf doesn't have MC tag

[shy flower]

Dena plz fix

[cyan tusk]

Unfortunately I’m aware but I might be mixing stuff around

That’s the first draft

Im working on another draft to get the mc/nature lover theme skills on the mallow team

And on another set with NCleaf on Erika