High Score

[hollow prism]

What does your roster look like rn

[frank girder]

Don’t pay too much attention to the levels

[hollow prism]

Oh wow

[frank girder]

If I manage to get Bulu I might have a shot to close in Top100 again

[hollow prism]

Yeah that’s REALLY good

What’s your gem count and spending look like

[frank girder]

but Anyway I’ll tryhard more than Fire

[hollow prism]

(F2p, bundles, packs, etc)

So i have a good idea of how much you can pull on

[frank girder]

48k free 20k paid (I don’t want to touch them besides dailies or select scouts)

[hollow prism]

How deep into Mix are you

And which bundles do you usually get

Because that’s A LOT of gems, you def have top 100 chances

If you can get to a mix, you’ll probably get red up to 3/5 at the pity point and can maybe just grab Acerola on that instead, so that you don’t have to pull for her

But there’s a lot of things you can do here

Depends on criteria, how far into Mix you are, if you want one of the NCs or want to save for January, etc

[frank girder]

I'll answer all in a single message

[hollow prism]

Also mention how many candies of each type you have so I know what you have for that too

Everything matters

[frank girder]

I'll start from the fact that I don't plan to use candies for HS, never done before besides Ash for Electric's (but it needed to be done since i was postponing it for a year...)

18/300 on mix or smth like that, I do the 100 daily deal only, and if I don't have any other banners to do daily on (those paid 20k are like a safety net to me, so I try to save as much as I can), I don't plan to spend more since as of rn I only shop the 4$ pack. I hope to get other two copies of Mix Red before HS ends, but we'll see.

For this month my targets are the 2 NCS and the Tapu Banner (i skipped them all on May, only did dailies on Bulu). The problem is that Tapu Banner only last 14 days, and I might get unlucky with Nate tomorrow...

[hollow prism]

Hm

[frank girder]

I can see a shot of Top100 only If I geet Bulu (I have 2 candies for him, that I'll use anyway)

[hollow prism]

I think Sycamore being grass fucks you badly

He’s exceptionally powerful

[frank girder]

Yeah I know, and I also like a lot Gogoat, but I hate that he's practically built for this HSE, so I don't plan to pull him

[hollow prism]

You might lose top 100 status on that alone tbh, it’ll probably be higher than Fire and idk if that’s 330-350k quality

Especially with Lyra 1/5

[frank girder]

Yeah I know, but I also have the goal to get Top100 without Sycamore

[frank girder]

Top100 will be even higher than Electric

[hollow prism]

I don’t think you have enough Gas

[frank girder]

It will be similar to Water

Water was around 360/365 (i did 350k)

[hollow prism]

You’d probably have to start pulling more on Mix to try and get red 3/5 more consistently

[frank girder]

Electric was around 350 (placed 82 with 360k)

[hollow prism]

But a pity will burn all your paids and with only orb bundle you’ll run out by the time Selects exist for NY

[frank girder]

Yup, that will help a lot

[hollow prism]

If you’re set on not getting Sycamore you’re going to have quite a hard time getting it

[frank girder]

In fact I don't want to burn rn the pity for HS, I prefer to wait for NY Selects

[hollow prism]

You might be able to but it’ll be close

If selects give you Victor that’s a godsend but i wouldn’t hold my breath

I know you don’t want to candy stuff and honestly i agree because Mix will give you them overtime

[frank girder]

I was hoping for Bulu in select, but...

[hollow prism]

But Lyra is a Master Fair and probably critical so that’s the one pair I would consider depending on if she is good enough at 3/5

Also it’s not like you’re wasting those candies anyway

Like i said the same thing to people with 1/5 NCLeaf. Those are not wasted lol

You’re using that shit even after HS lets be honest

[frank girder]

About that

I candied Blaziken instead of NC Leaf

[hollow prism]

That’s an enormous yikes

Unless favorite

In which case candy away

[frank girder]

Smth like that

[hollow prism]

But for Fire that cost you a solid 30-50k lmao

[frank girder]

I planned those 2 candies on Blaziken for months, but never had the chance

[frank girder]

Yup I realized that (in fact I stopedd at 300k without even going further)

[hollow prism]

300k with 1/5 leaf, wow that hurts even more

[frank girder]

And that damn fire chicken got me to pity, so i preferred to go on Blaziken (i know it's not logical, but that's ok for me)

[hollow prism]

So do you have no Techs

[frank girder]

I could've raised a bit more, smth like 310, but I lost motivation

[frank girder]

I have only one

[hollow prism]

You’ll get a second one by Hs

[chilly flame]

@cyan tusk Would you recon I go for Victor or Vmallow from the mix banner pity

[hollow prism]

And honestly even if you don’t i wouldn’t even rule out a gold

[chilly flame]

Assume I can get both to 3/5

[hollow prism]

A gold on tech SS Lyra 2/5-3/5 is just about the best use of a gold period

But you shouldn’t even need to consider that

[frank girder]

@hollow prism this was my Fire HS, no LeonZard, no GymGloria, no Varieties, and SSHilda, NCLeaf, AnniN at 1/5

[hollow prism]

I had 2/5 Morty 3/5 May 3/5 Leaf, 1/5 Red 2/5 Hilda

So i had no Anni N and a worse SS Red but my Leaf was 3/5 and my Hilda 2/5

That’s probably very slightly better because of the leaf

But it’s close

I would expect to marginally beat you with that roster

[frank girder]

No, those are sacred for me, I'm saving one for DecHisui when I'll get my first Orange Candy, or to use them on pairs I want to 5/5

[hollow prism]

Then see if you have two techs when hs rolls around and if Lyra 3/5 is like a 100k team then that’s the time to do it

[shy flower]

I doubt Lyra getting 3/5 is going to make that much of a difference

[frank girder]

I could've raised by 7k more Kiawe, 7k more Flannery if I exed Ethan, and maybe 5k more on Chili, but It wasn't worth it

[hollow prism]

Oh i would wait and see how it performs first of course

[frank girder]

That's what I think, because you'll mainly use her for flinches and Grassy Terrain

And also debuffs ofc

[hollow prism]

Like if 1/5 and 3/5 do 60 and 70 then it’s a bad idea

But if 3/5 goes from 60 to 100 now we’re talking

[frank girder]

Yup, in fact I'll lurk in the first week so I can be more precise with decisions

[hollow prism]

And either way Lyra’s a good unit to candy anyway so if you’re going to do it might as well be now

[frank girder]

Maybe I'll get SC Rosa from Mix, so might give her the candies

[hollow prism]

We don’t know which of the pairs will be the best for the event yet though

We know Adaman and Lyra will be key pairs for sure

And Acerola and Sycamore seem to be quite strong too

But other than that? Up in the air

[frank girder]

That is also true, but I suspect SC Rosa will be impactful for stages with raised Evasion

[hollow prism]

I don’t have her so idk what she does at all

So i can’t really comment on her strength

[shy flower]

She's very strong, just gauge hungry

Lowers Sp Atk, Eva, and Sp Def

[hollow prism]

:/

I mean that’s really fkn good but the gauge problems are horrible

[shy flower]

Most Grass supports have a way of fixing gauge, so it shouldn't be that much of an issue

[hollow prism]

Yeah i would assume so

[frank girder]

Both her first run and re-run came out during an Anniversary

[shy flower]

She also has Potion

[hollow prism]

I need to figure out who’s on the banner

Because I have pity #1 in 9 days

[frank girder]

Victor only or Victor +SS Leaf

Unless they decide to put also SC on the HS Banner

[hollow prism]

I am missing Victor SS Leaf, SC Rosa and Sonia

I can get all four if i’m smart with my pulls

[frank girder]

As of right now they only put Pokefairs on HS Banner

I was suspecting Victor + SS Acerola, but she re-run on december

[hollow prism]

Yeah i already had 3/5 so her here rn is AMAZING for me

[shy flower]

inb4 they don't do Victor at all and just do SC reruns

[frank girder]

I also hope they don't buff any grass spotlight's grid on January

[hollow prism]

If i pity an SC and then that happens I have to leave Victor or Leaf

And if that happens my 500k chances are GONE

I would be livid

[frank girder]

They might

Imagine also Adaman as January MF rerun with EX Role

Just after the HS ends

[hollow prism]

Adaman rerun before 3rd anni after frogs came before 3rd anni will make me red in the face

I need electric damage so desperately

[frank girder]

Be ready

[cyan tusk]

For me, Vmallow

[hollow prism]

Those three pairs are the only pairs I need badly that i cannot mix pity

[frank girder]

I laughed hard when I saw Koko's rerun and Heliolisk exp.grid the month after Electric HS

[hollow prism]

Emma rerun after the ebes is similarly funny

[chilly flame]

Do you think missing Victor will be super punishing?

[hollow prism]

Idk don’t have him

But probably from what i’ve heard

[cyan tusk]

Mmmh nope, his nuke is not that easy to setup, his max move his good but his dps is not astronomical

Victor’s power comes from AoE max move + piercing blows

Unless we get a ground weak stage but don’t see it likely

[hollow prism]

Is there anyone else in the server who can potentially have every exclusive going into the HS

[chilly flame]

Ryuuhime

[shy flower]

If they rerun Adaman, I could

[frank girder]

ngh

Groudn weak stage isn't happening, no grass mon is weak to ground

[cyan tusk]

En

[shy flower]

Grass resist Ground, so there won't be a Ground weak stage

[cyan tusk]

Unless they play it dirty like grass weak Barry and empoleon

[hollow prism]

How strong is runner’s Grass roster because they better not get 3 1st places out of 4 lol

[chilly flame]

I don’t think he’s going too hard on this one

[hollow prism]

Ok

[shy flower]

It'll probably be Fire, Poison, Ice, Flying, and Bug as the weaknesses

[frank girder]

Genius, so they sell better Victor banner on January

[hollow prism]

Grass weak stage in Grass HS imagine DeNA was generous to us lol

[chilly flame]

But when psychic hs comes out, he’s almost definitely getting first

[cyan tusk]

Well if they wanna sell Victor rerun they could lmao

[hollow prism]

I’m also stacked out the ass for Psychic

[shy flower]

Runner's just going to alternate getting first and not bothering

[hollow prism]

I have everyone except for Lear and I will pity

[shy flower]

I think everyone is stacked for Psychic

[cyan tusk]

But they are gonna rerun the -80% sync damage so they sell mix red and victor together

Dena I should be working for your marketing instead of throwing free ideas here

[hollow prism]

Plz no i already have him 5/5

[frank girder]

As for Psychic HS I miss SS Lana (may get her this month) and I have 1/5 Cresselia

[frank girder]

100% happening

[shy flower]

You'll have plenty of time to get candies before Psychic HS

[hollow prism]

I have 3/5 lana 4/5 cress 2/5 elio and 1/5 Lusamine and Steven

[chilly flame]

I just hope they put SS Leaf and Victor in the same banner, and not just one of them

[hollow prism]

And i’m 3/5ing rosa

[chilly flame]

Like how only C Elesa reran

[cyan tusk]

I will always have mixed feelings on sslana

[frank girder]

No way I'll candy Cresselia for HS only

[hollow prism]

I need it to be a double banner to fill out my grass roster

[cyan tusk]

Got 3/5 the multi before pity
Got 4/5 in the single to the pity

[chilly flame]

I mean cresselia is a generally very good support

[shy flower]

SS Dawn is actually extremely useful in a wide variety of scenarios

[chilly flame]

So it’s not like it’s bad value

[hollow prism]

I’m honestly not a fan of her

[cyan tusk]

I went from getting shafted and poor to lucky and poor in a heartbeat

[shy flower]

Source: I have her at 5/5

[hollow prism]

She’s good but i don’t like using her

She just doesn’t feel as impactful as i’d like from a support

[chilly flame]

Her kit isn’t my favorite either but I won’t deny her use

[frank girder]

I know, but I never liked her, I was planning to candy her when I got her on 3rd Anni Select, but never got the chance

[hollow prism]

Despite the fact that she takes hits like a madwoman

[cyan tusk]

So you are ready to get grid expansion where you cannot grab stuff because her grid is already stacked with useful stuff

[hollow prism]

I feel like she just sits there and doesn’t do much else

[shy flower]

Good thing I don't take Crisis Countdown

[cyan tusk]

But you take sync heal refill and mh1 on moonlight and bye

[shy flower]

True Need more energy

[cyan tusk]

I have her 3/5 and she’s only been useful in lg

5/5 rn is useful only on units with trash grids

[frank girder]

I also miss NY Sabrina

[hollow prism]

Yeah like her kit is Healing, healing, healing, more healing, and oh did i mention healing?

[cyan tusk]

Yes Gloria and Lysandre you got a point

[shy flower]

At least she can last longer than like anyone else

[cyan tusk]

I think this may hurt more than SSDawn

[shy flower]

NY Sabrina doesn't do a whole lot

Endurance is good, but I don't know if she's more useful than Dawn

[cyan tusk]

She can apply continuous endurance while healing, this is coming in handy in hse

[frank girder]

Yup, but after Grass HS I might stop tryharding

[hollow prism]

I don’t really see any use for dawn nowdays when I can just use a support that can also survive the stage and also give the entire team like 15 perks

[cyan tusk]

And also is targeted endurance not only self endurance, plus she can (slowly) buff defense. If you get right mprs on the TM she can be a great resource for high points clear

[shy flower]

Idk I'm not gonna tryhard Psychic because I don't like most other Psychic units

I'm gonna wait for Ghost

I have every Psychic unit but

[cyan tusk]

I wanna see the solrock nuke clears

[hollow prism]

The only other type i can realistically tryhard is Dragon but i am considering Nate Skip

[true sparrow]

Tate if he gets ex > Giovanni in HS

[hollow prism]

Because scale shot isn’t real

[shy flower]

I don't think anyone can tryhard Dragon until we get more Dragon supports

[frank girder]

I hope we get some supports for Dragon's

[cyan tusk]

Say it louder!! I’m gonna ex him asap

[hollow prism]

I might go for Nate, idk yet

But like

WHY IS HE SO MID

[shy flower]

Tbf Tate > Giovanni already

[true sparrow]

he's not mid

he's just very sync focused over dps

[hollow prism]

He just looks like SS Wally 2

[shy flower]

SS Wally is far from mid

If he's like SS Wally for Dragon, he's far from mid

[hollow prism]

Mid is an exaggeration

But still like

Why

[true sparrow]

I understand the early disappointment

[cyan tusk]

Btw Nate’s value comes from dual strike comps where he adds up damage with both zones while nuking

[frank girder]

I don't understand why they gave splitted damage to his buddy

[true sparrow]

and I do think he's the worse masterfair this year

[cyan tusk]

We will see funny team comps in a few days

[hollow prism]

Yeah like as an NC pair he’s disappointing

Every other NC is game breaking except for Hop

[true sparrow]

but he's on par or better than a few great dmg dealers we got this year like Emma or on par with SS Diantha

[frank girder]

I'll play him with Dragapult, but Hydreigon also could be even better

[hollow prism]

And oh yeah the other NC is the most busted to shit kit i’ve ever seen

[true sparrow]

he'll improve over time with newer units that get good synergy

like Irida did very quickly

[frank girder]

Who do you think it is?

[hollow prism]

Nate

[frank girder]

Sorry I'm tired

[cyan tusk]

Well hydreigon has better nuke and synergy with unova theme skill. Only thing is hydreigon wants to sync too

[frank girder]

I misread it

[true sparrow]

my main issue with nate is field ex role

that's just not paying off

[hollow prism]

You’ve read Rosa right runner

[frank girder]

I agree with you

[frank girder]

The only problem with Hydreigon is that she limits your team building, you need offensive buffs so not every support is ok with those two

[true sparrow]

SS Steven and Rei stocks

[cyan tusk]

Which move level is your hydreigon?

[frank girder]

Mine is 1/5

So she's out of option, I'll just use Dragapult instead (3/5). I don't plan to candy immediatly Nate, so I think he's the best buddy I have

[cyan tusk]

Oh ok. Btw we’re limited in team building for now but as runner mentioned before Nate his more likely to age really well

[hollow prism]

I was curious where you think Rosa will place with the rest of the supports

[frank girder]

He will def age like wine

[true sparrow]

personally she's on par with nc blue, but most feel she's a bit below him but still higher than everyone else

[hollow prism]

I was even saying she might be better honestly

But that’s bold

[frank girder]

I need to see her in action before jundging her completely

[hollow prism]

I am more confident in saying that TRed is probably bronze now

[frank girder]

I don't like that without 3/5 she is slow in her defense buffs, and I'm not a fan of random stats buffing

[true sparrow]

well she's slow for allies since it depends on the random

but she is always buffing her own defenses

alongside the random

[hollow prism]

It’s not even just that

The one biggest issue with Blue is the X speed all move is just not very good

[frank girder]

yup but without 3/5 she alternate which defense she buff, unlike Blue which buff both while he spam Discharge

[hollow prism]

Meanwhile Rosa gets 100% sing with troublemaker 1

And while we don’t know yet, mael says that one of rosa’s passives might give her quad queue

On a 100% sleep

THAT’S why I think she might be better

This is a perfect grid for special support that enables that

[true sparrow]

not currently, but I think the new mode in development that gives multiple battles might make her better if it's as battle villa where you don't regain mp

[hollow prism]

It’s hard to tell right now but she’s definitely top 5 units in the game

[frank girder]

I'm quite hyped for that new mode

I'm kinda burned out by High Points CS, and I know that I will not have the means to tryhard every HS like I did for Electric or Water

[true sparrow]

I wish they had a free month without LG or HS, it is a bit tiring every month having them

[hollow prism]

At least I can get a shit ton of tickets for HS this month

[frank girder]

Don't get me on that (even if I always skip LG)

[hollow prism]

And also LG is 3 bozos this month so ez clap

[frank girder]

HS should be run every 4 months and not 2 like now

They've already burned the best types for HS in the first 4 editions....

[hollow prism]

Yeah after Dragon and Psychic wtf are we doing next

[hardy fog]

Brother. They are a business 😂

[radiant pebble]

Normal
And watch the world burn

[hollow prism]

ROCK HS BOUT TO GO CRAZY. DIANTHA SWEEP

[hollow prism]

😭

[frank girder]

Mixed types could work if they balance the pairings

[sturdy glen]

well they're running it pretty badly then...

[frank girder]

Like shit type + decent type

[radiant pebble]

people when they realise HS is just prestige:

[hollow prism]

Which passive does rosa have that you mentioned could give her quad queue on sing Mael?

[radiant pebble]

uuuuuh

[hollow prism]

Or was that someone else

[radiant pebble]

Psychic Performance

or charging infliction 1 on grid to make it easier

[hollow prism]

That’s the one that gives MUN to the team right

[radiant pebble]

no, self SpD

[hollow prism]

Oh whoops

[hardy fog]

100% participation rate from your top 1% players doesn’t make as much money as higher frequency of reasons to pull for the general public.

[hollow prism]

If you didn’t make the grid for her already I made it

[shy flower]

Ghost will be after Psychic, then probably Fairy or Ice

[frank girder]

Dragon isn't happening soon

[hollow prism]

I die badly to Fairy

[shy flower]

They can do almost all the types. It's only Bug, Fighting, and Ground that are really struggling

[hollow prism]

I have Lisia wally but skipped literally everyone else

[frank girder]

I don't want to see NC Blue spammed all over every HS

(but I gess it's too late now)

[hollow prism]

People will still use him because he’s just the best unit in the game, he does too much

[hardy fog]

But but I have about 10 typings where I have 7 units only.

I need nc blue 😂

[true sparrow]

well as far as rng goes, rosa has a better case of being used in HS instead of him due to possible acc debuff / evasiveness buffing as well all other stats

[hollow prism]

Yeah rerolling for a key stat sucks but we’re gonna do it

[true sparrow]

that if you're tryharding for max points

[hollow prism]

also hot take but i really like the potions because of MPR and also Blue’s second roost does fk all to the teammates half the time because he has to pre sync it

and also potions aren’t garbage into LG where you need to keep a rebuff

[true sparrow]

I prefer Blue's healing

[hollow prism]

cough

[true sparrow]

Regen goes a long way by itself for your side units

[hollow prism]

Roost is insane and probably better but the sheer pain of the pre sync 2nd roost makes me cry

[shy flower]

Oh hey, Runner, Santos mentioned that you might not go for first this HS. Are you gonna wait for Psychic for that?

[true sparrow]

If I think my units can do well I might tryhard, but with the new mode idk if I'll be super focused on HS

Psychic I'm going all in

[hollow prism]

What’s your grass look like

[hollow prism]

Christ

[frank girder]

F for NC Rosa and VMallow

[sturdy glen]

definitely cant go for rank 1

[hollow prism]

Somehow I think my roster is on par with yours

[sullen kestrel]

Planning to pull victor if he reruns?

[true sparrow]

Not at all

[hollow prism]

If you don’t tryhard this hs could you still help out with my teambuilding because i’m going for 500k this event if the reruns work out in my favor

I can get every exclusive 3/5 with EX in the game if i’m smart with my resources

And probably also 5/5 ace

[hardy fog]

Yooooo. I’m having Fomo for the goat even though it hasn’t landed 😂

[sullen kestrel]

Prob leaf and victor

[hollow prism]

Yeah i’m missing Leaf Victor and both SCs

[atomic rain]

i dont think victor will be good for grass hs tbh

[hollow prism]

I have 2 mixes and i’m pitying Rosa

[frank girder]

I'll get the goat in a future select

[atomic rain]

piercing blows largely doesnt matter and his nuke is annoying to set up without another enabler

[hollow prism]

If she misses the selects and Grass banner it’s over

[atomic rain]

cakewalk when he only does -1 from drum beating

:dies:

unless theres a ground weak stage (there wont be) he probably wont do too well

[hollow prism]

I’m either getting the 500k this event, someone beats me to it, or none of us get it and you get it on Psychic runner lol

[true sparrow]

I don't think any of the grass units I'm missing matter a lot 'cause we'll surely have a fire or ice weak

Offensive units*

V Mallow is the one I think can hurt

[atomic rain]

and grass gen pool is fine

[hollow prism]

Yeah i was about to say the V Mallow hurts bad

[atomic rain]

pretty much

shes really good for all content tbh

fast buffing good utility for long form content and self sustain

[hollow prism]

That’s the one thing that I have over most is she’s already 3/5 EX. That’s BIG

[true sparrow]

But if I get Hol Sycamore it might mitigate the issue

Or depending on the stages just not have a lot of impact

[hollow prism]

How important do you think is 5/5 for Victor and Leaf

Wondering if i can still make this work with them 3/5 if i get ace to 5/5

[frank girder]

SC Rosa might be impactful in stages with evasion up i think

[atomic rain]

i dont remember victor’s 5/5 being much

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[hollow prism]

There’s a tile for post sync protect

That’s the one i’m worried about

[atomic rain]

hm overwhelm is nice

max damage guard maybe for when mid dies

[hollow prism]

Yeah

Or just to mitigate a nasty sync

Leaf idk her kit yet i haven’t looked into her but ik she gets a badly poisoned tile at 4/5 or 5/5 too

And idk how viable a toxic cheese would be for this event

Probably pretty viable

[true sparrow]

Nah, you're not killing them out of toxic, you might get a small dmg from it, but there's not nearly enough

[magic sandal]

Toxic stall isn’t unless they have a lower resistance

[hollow prism]

How long would it take to ramp up to the point it actually kills

[magic sandal]

Cause by 2nd sync if the strength is high enough you will just wipe

[magic sandal]

2nd sync

[hollow prism]

I mean

[magic sandal]

That’s 12 turns

[hollow prism]

You could survive that long

[magic sandal]

Oh for it to kill

Longer than 2nd sync

[radiant pebble]

as long as csmm

[magic sandal]

2nd sync is when you die

[hollow prism]

I mean maybe you could chip center enough so that it doesn’t reach it

And then once that happens sides are probably on life support

[magic sandal]

I disagree

[shy flower]

Sides don't attack enough for that to happen

[hollow prism]

I thought they kept the ramped up dmg

Because when I stall in CS

They take like all their health on their first atk

[shy flower]

CS sides have lower resistance

[hollow prism]

Ah ok

[radiant pebble]

CS sides have 0 resistance

[shy flower]

That's how you can even do shit like duo burn stall

[hollow prism]

I’ve never heard of duo burn stall lol

[shy flower]

I did it with Blaine and Marley against Koga

[cunning shore]

Burn stall

[shy flower]

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Shameless plug for when I did it

There's also a duo poison stall right after

[magic sandal]

Another very important thing about HS stall is the units in CS hit nowhere near as hard when stalling

That won’t be the case in HS

And if you’re low enough in strength where they don’t hit as hard you’re probably at a range where you can just wipe them by normally attacking

[hollow prism]

YO THE FUNNY HAPPENED

[crude iron]

Any lodge pairs I should grab for hse grass?

Other than Gloria and blue

[forest ferry]

sycamore if you are lacking on dps and they decide to put poison weak mid

[crude iron]

Ok I’ll do sycamore then just to be safe. My grass box is f2p other than lgloria

Is sycamore the only other grass one btw

[sullen pier]

he is yes

there are 3 Grass units among lodge pairs

[crude iron]

Since prob won’t bother with jasmine for now anyway (since hers basically a worse bp clemont from what I hear)

[forest ferry]

She'll be amazing for steel hs whenever that one drops

Since steel does have good dps and support access for most players

[hardy fog]

Apparently solid for LG

[ornate turret]

don't underestimate the lodge/bp supports, you'll never know when you need them, they all find uses in ebe, mission challenges, CS, LG and highscore

[radiant pebble]

Nah even in LG she's very mid

[hollow prism]

Damn Lodge pairs being bad in LG?

There’s no saving her then

[radiant pebble]

She's not bad she has her uses

But compared to other BP or Lodge pairs she's subpar

[sullen pier]

she is even worse than Lodge Adaman

[rough forum]

Wdym lodge Adaman was great for water HS

[cyan tusk]

Lodge Jasmine is very mid but her perk is being steel which is way less stacked than electric

She might come in handy as a worst bp Clemont but on average steel is worst than electric

[sturdy glen]

all i see is a +2 acc for that fucking +2 eva stage
and that's all i need

[hollow prism]

How many points does every +100 give and what’s the base amount for +0

[atomic rain]

it depends on how much

[hollow prism]

I’m trying to figure out what’s the max total possible

Oh i see the rate goes up the higher you go

How many points is +1000 then

[atomic rain]

yeah its different values from 0-100 then 101 to 200 then 200 to 300 and then it stays the same after 300

i forgot how many 1k is

lol

[true sparrow]

Around 120k depending on the parameters

[cyan tusk]

I have seen 125.800 last hse and was the highest I’ve seen so far

Basically was the same as my 125.100 clear on kiawe but the player had a potion mpr more

[hollow prism]

So essentially anything higher than 600k is impossible

[hardy fog]

Imo not possible* (misread)

If you look at the teams for 1000 str it's uber tier of that typing

Essentially you need at least 5 uber that can carry

The support seems to be the most important piece. NC Leaf and Adaman are exceptions because they have unbelievale defensive stats. Even for electric, the str the rats can handle were walled by how much dmg they can take.

[forest ferry]

Rats weren't walled by damage taken especially SSTred

He was walled by how much dps he puts out before mid gets over killed

And also electric tanks in general weren't amazing outside NCblue who you didn't rly use with him most cases

You don't need uber carry to do 1000 str, you need disruptor and tank more than that
Like NCleaf and NCblue

[cunning shore]

I don't think you can replicate the same score across 5 stages, realistically
You will hit 2 very high stages and push the rest to their very limite

Unless they make a multi-type hse

[hollow prism]

Well yeah by no means do i think 600k will happen ever, it was just a thought experiment

But your analogy of “two stages that hit very high and 3 other stages that you focus on and push to their very limit” is interesting because i came up with a similar analogy

Everyone who had Leaf and Morty/N got 80k+ on Flannery Kiawe, but it was 100% how you dealt with Blaine and Flint that defined where you ultimately placed

Looking back my biggest issue was that my two units that could deal with those stages, Hilda and Red, were both so low move level that they had to work together, leaving Flint unaccounted for, which destroyed me

[crude iron]

im still proud of my placement for FHS, especially when im more casual than some people here.

[hardy fog]

Solid casual run

230k not exactly a walk in the park

[hardy fog]

If SST red and everything else could survive longer, technically you would prob go max conductivity and get 2 more sync in

[hollow prism]

I just realized something

Isn’t Fairy HS just going to be “lol who can land Fissure off metronome”

[sturdy glen]

same for flying

[magic sandal]

no

they have OHKO nullification iirc

yeah they do

[hollow prism]

LMAO

of course they do

Does Fissure hit all enemies or single target

[sturdy glen]

single target

[hollow prism]

What are the chances of rolling fissure on metronome and is it still 30% accurate

[sturdy glen]

negative

[hollow prism]

Damn i didn’t know metronome could roll fissure on yourself

[sturdy glen]

i was thinking...
if there is a poison weak stage
can oleana be a good pick considering top 50?
or even top 10?

[shy flower]

There'll almost certainly be a Poison weak stage, but you're not going to stall it out

[cyan tusk]

It depends on the parameters

[shy flower]

I don't know if DPS/nuke Oleana will be better than just using Sycasaur and SS Leaf

[sturdy glen]

why the hell should i stall a lessen poison 9/10 stage?

[sturdy glen]

yeah i assumed a neutral condition

[shy flower]

Some people did bring it up as an idea and that's what Oleana tends to be used for

[cyan tusk]

If we get debuffs and fewer attack as parameters why not but she not being able to debuff also defenses could be an issue for high points

[chilly kayak]

there are crazy people like that, but jokes on them because you can't really do that and get any meaningful score out of it

[sturdy glen]

defended?

[cyan tusk]

Defenses, my beloved autocorrector

[sturdy glen]

mmm... nc blue is enough for 1000 strength
thanks to his attacks debuffs
so if we can stick oleana to a good healer
it might be manageable

[chilly flame]

Hmmm

I’m skeptical

[arctic quest]

reroll

[chilly flame]

Alright

[arctic quest]

you've used an everpin, I'd try and get max benefit out of it

[cyan tusk]

Go for 100 hp + some defenses

[half orchid]

it's 132000 [max str is 33000 pts, triple max parameters are 3000x3 for 9000 pts and 1000 for each of the special conditions being fulfilled], then multiplied by 3. you will probably drop a couple points on the parameters though so 120-125k is more realistic to shoot for

[sturdy glen]

that's a bandanna

[sturdy glen]

btw i dont think that there could be a relevant difference
between fully maxed skill gear
and a standard +70/+80 attacks
with no particular dmg boosts

[cyan tusk]

Shhh

[lucid timber]

Yea it’s still 30% I believe

[hollow prism]

What we thinking on this set of gear?

[sullen pier]

the passives are not helpful

[hollow prism]

Offensive stats and HP are insane, defenses are eh

I like the double interference passives though

Those are really nice

[shy flower]

It might be useful for Grass HS, but interferences don't last forever

[hollow prism]

Para mid?

Status conditions also work

[shy flower]

On the team with Erika, sure, that works

[sullen pier]

idk if Adaman's confusion will be matter tho

[hollow prism]

I def want to roll the pin

[sullen pier]

thats SS Erika tho

[shy flower]

I was thinking SS Lyra'e triple interference lol

[sullen pier]

ah

[hollow prism]

Yeah, and Mallow gets stun spore too

I’m spreading status all over the place for sure

[sullen pier]

Grass has many status users

[worldly parcel]

Conditions:

1: 3* Min Rarity | All Pairs (Limited Included) | Type | Any Interference‎

------------------------------

Adaman & Leafeon
‎　⤷Criticonfuse 9
Barry & Roserade
‎　⤷Attack Trap 4
Blue & Exeggutor
‎　⤷Stomp
Brendan & Sceptile
‎　⤷Bullet Seed: Staggering 1
Erika & Tangela
‎　⤷Infestation
Erika & Vileplume
‎　⤷Stun Spore: Flabbergast 2
Mallow & Tsareena
‎　⤷Teeter Dance
Shauna & Chesnaught
‎　⤷Vine Whip: Attack Trap 2
Sygna Suit Lyra & Celebi
‎　⤷Hassling Hit 9

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[hollow prism]

If it was just interference i’d reroll that shit but i really like the free +6%

[worldly parcel]

Conditions:

1: 3* Min Rarity | All Pairs (Limited Included) | Type | Any Condition‎

------------------------------

Barry & Roserade
‎　⤷Stun Spore
Erika & Tangela
‎　⤷Toxic
Erika & Vileplume
‎　⤷Stun Spore
Mallow & Shiinotic
‎　⤷Stun Spore
Professor Sycamore & Bulbasaur
‎　⤷Sludge Bomb
Ramos & Victreebel
‎　⤷Sleep Powder
Red & Venusaur
‎　⤷Razor Leaf: Toxic Chance 4
Sygna Suit Leaf & Venusaur
‎　⤷Venomous 4, Venomous 2

If you like the bot, consider becoming a Patron: https://patreon.com/PoryphoneBot

[hollow prism]

Not sure if it’s worth buying another everpin to save grass on the pin and rerolling

Pin’s kinda mid

[shy flower]

3 para and 3 poison isn't bad, but I don't know what the param will be

Unless it's just "inflict a status condition", I think it'll be confusion or trap

[hollow prism]

Yeah i could see that double passive not doing much in at least one fight

[sullen pier]

trap is also common

[hollow prism]

But if one of the conditions is para an enemy?

We eating GOOD

[shy flower]

If that's the case, you can only do it with three teams

Max

Or else you're off typing

[hollow prism]

Ah

There’s also some other status users that i can use as well

I’m sure i’ll find space for at least one on each team

[shy flower]

There are three grass pairs that poison and three that para

Also, are those opp: interference or status?

[hollow prism]

Yeah

Both the same

[shy flower]

Okay good, I've seen one too many that don't have that

[hollow prism]

If they stack that’s busted to shit

[shy flower]

They do stack, but I don't think they're that insane

[hollow prism]

I have to get good stuff on the pin

[long oyster]

Does the same bonus exist for sync moves

It'd make that gear pretty good for LyraBi

[atomic rain]

yes

[hardy fog]

I'm hoping solarize is not going to be a big diff for this HS 😂

[weary rivet]

Those defense stats

[atomic rain]

me when 2020 gen pool

[atomic rain]

the bigger problem imo is the lack of crit max

dire hit all

[hollow prism]

Something tells me Lyra isn’t going to be that good

Unless Light screen goes CRAZY

Maybe if we get Flannery 2 for no sync dmg

[forest ferry]

Well lightscreen is pretty good and tbf she's like only spl def option that isn't limited for grass

[hollow prism]

Me with my 3/5 V Mallow

[sturdy glen]

yeah i feel that unless we forgot something
we'll have to pick blue again

[hollow prism]

No shot

We have too much good stuff

There’s no way we run out of pairs to use

[sturdy glen]

my man, not everyone has mallow

[forest ferry]

It's just vallow and hycamore

[hollow prism]

But i mean the Gen pools are still insane

We have so many good ones

[forest ferry]

Not on spl def side

And most are dpses

[hollow prism]

Eh i guess

[forest ferry]

Grass tanks all physical oriented

[hollow prism]

You have status? :)

Ramos the GOAT

[forest ferry]

He isn't tanking 600 str with no defenses

[hollow prism]

not with that attitude he isn’t

[weary rivet]

I'm probably using both NC Blue and NC Rosa

[hollow prism]

Is SC Rosa good at taking special hits or no

[forest ferry]

She drops spl def

Atk*

[sturdy glen]

but the supports are only:

• rosa
• dawn
• shauna
• lyra (?)

then you have to go on the limiteds that are:

• sycamore
• mallow
• acerola

blue and barry are not good for tanking

[forest ferry]

rosa suk without 3/5

[hollow prism]

Is she even good with 3/5

[forest ferry]

okay ig

Her self heals are good

[hollow prism]

Am i really going to candy her for this event

Do I hate myself that much

[weary rivet]

Her defense is bad

But spdef is nice

[true sparrow]

You shouldn't be using her

[hollow prism]

Too early to tell ig

We still don’t know shit

[forest ferry]

She's pretty much my best spl def tank

Mine is 4/5

[true sparrow]

She's the worst grass supp

If you have all of them, you're not using her

[forest ferry]

That's the point

I don't have any of the limiteds except bulu

Who is also physical focus

[true sparrow]

If you have half of them, you might still not use her

[hollow prism]

I’m going to have all of them so that solves my question

[true sparrow]

And Shuna is a pretty good SP. Def supp

Not sure why she is not being considered as such

[shy flower]

Idk about you all but I'm using Rosa and Lyra for sun nukes

The other five can tank

[sturdy glen]

she needs of defenses boosts

that's where bp barry could help...
IF HE BOOSTED ALLIES DEFENSES

https://tenor.com/view/if-i-had-one-gif-17279625483437474265

[hardy fog]

sycamore please come home on a daily so I(I mean we) don’t have to use 1/5 Lyra

[hardy fog]

I got 3/5 ss lana from banner lol any good for psychic hs?

[hollow prism]

I would assume so

Spread damage and Psychic terrain

And also a good sync for 80% less sync damage stage

[maiden canopy]

-80% physical damage

[hardy fog]

Don't know. She feels a bit clunky

[cyan tusk]

She’s good but needs 5/5 to be relevant unless you nuke with smth else

Bc 1 full sync multiplier is at 5/5

[shy flower]

SS Lana is incredible and will absolutely be useful for whichever stage ends up having a non-Psychic sync move. She's my go-to Psychic type DPS

[hardy fog]

What level is yours

[shy flower]

4/5, but I only use 3/5 grid tiles

[cyan tusk]

That’s what a kinda 5/5 grid looks like. You can drop furious brain for critical sync but I feel we will be able to afford a crit buffer

I feel weird recovery is better of the other +25 on sync bc sustain is better in the long run

[ornate turret]

3/5 to 6/5 bulu while chasing the other 2

[true sparrow]

I don't think she'll be used for sync regardless

Psychic has too many techs

And Lana already deals with sides with her b move

[shy flower]

[sturdy glen]

i dont agree here...
sure brainpower gives her a stronger sync
but literally that's all the difference between this and 3/5
so in the end you'll be able to push just a bit higher

[hardy fog]

Back in business to attempt for top 100 😂 @cunning shore @forest ferry

[forest ferry]

[hardy fog]

To pin or not to pin

[cunning shore]

Got shafted, no gems to try that banner
Ill gladly bow out

[hardy fog]

What did you pull

[cunning shore]

Shaft

Nate shaft

Need more gems from this month to pity lol

Was hoping to get lucky

Sigh

[haughty haven]

You try to pity Nate ?

[grand perch]

Planning to get lucky is a bad plan haha

[magic sandal]

This is where i’m at for grass

Making some progress

[forest ferry]

I am waiting for datamine before going into gear hell

[cunning shore]

Me: imagine having units for grass event

[forest ferry]

you have more than I do

[chilly flame]

That bandanna is so good

[sturdy glen]

pls reroll that pin

[magic sandal]

wow kalos hater smh

[sturdy glen]

i would use a normal 3* for the tank
rather than that

[magic sandal]

that'd literally be worse

[sturdy glen]

wait true...
btw still reroll it

the gain is so minimal that it hurts me

[magic sandal]

i mean i don't have ever pins so it's a lot harder to roll for what I want

[sturdy glen]

dont you have like infinite yellow feathers?

[cunning shore]

I know the feeling

In the eyes of rng

Even infinite is not enough

[magic sandal]

i spent them all on my rock bracelet

but my rock bracelet is just cracked

[sturdy glen]

wdym i always have something like 400/500
and i made like 20ish good gears

[magic sandal]

i mean i have 20ish good gears

they just aren't grass gears

[cunning shore]

The rngesus has blessed a few chosen

I only have great fire ones 😂

[haughty haven]

This is mine rn, after 2xx yellow feathers i have this

I just reroll the stat

[sturdy glen]

that's some gourmet shit

[ornate turret]

Trash stats tho

[sturdy glen]

damn no defense boosts...
i'd reroll the bracalet at least

surely the pin

[ornate turret]

out of wings atm but we still have more than a month to prep

[forest ferry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1128052735967764621/1177516764641378325/Screenshot_20231124-132041.png?ex=657c0571&is=65699071&hm=07f62dd937f0de1dcb2401f075efd1446795b75de6d646ffbe701236d11b1d1d&

I'll gib sycamore feather to HP gear

[maiden canopy]

Will eggmon Leafeon ever see use for the next HS event?

[sturdy glen]

not in top 100

[hardy fog]

I used fire egg last HS so who knows 😂

[sturdy glen]

assuming again only 2 stages for using terrain
the slots are already occupied from ss lyra and ss acerola

[zealous elm]

Probably if we get MC points again

[hardy fog]

Yea that's true there are better alternatives where fire didn't

[sturdy glen]

wait there's also mix red

mmm... 3 stages or we will be even forced to compress teambulding

or we could use lyra only as a flincher/debuffer

[graceful pike]

SS Leaf at 5/5...

I swear, the debuff is just amazing

[chilly flame]

Yea I didn’t realize she had that 5/5 tile unit yesterday

[main pulsar]

What’s 2xx

[oak fulcrum]

probably “at least 200, but somewhere less than 300”

[hollow prism]

Alright i now have to make my choice for my first Mix pity

We thinking it’s going to be Victor Leaf on the grass banner? I’m missing them and SC Rosa/Sonia

So I assume Rosa’s the pick

[arctic quest]

Hard to ascertain but I'd say Victor at least is a pretty safe bet. I would personally wait for NY select info tho

[hollow prism]

I can’t

I have to pity now because those are the only 4 i’m missing and If i wait too long my second pity will come too late

My plan is to use both on two of the grass pairs and try to predict what will be coming out on the banner

And i’m dropping golds and shit on my grass roster because I’m going for 500k so picking the right pair here REALLY matters

That’s why I was asking what everyone thought we’d see on the Grass Banner. I’m pitying that for both units because I think i’ll be missing both. Acerola won’t be on it, V Mallow hopefully won’t, and i assume Red and the MFs will be missed, which logically leaves both SCs, Victor, and Leaf as the only ones possible, the 4 i need

[graceful pike]

One victor

Candied

[haughty haven]

[hardy fog]

Wait you got that from mix by random?

[graceful pike]

Took too long

[cyan tusk]

The strike ex role on Hsycamore is kinda useless or am I missing something?

[sturdy glen]

Wdym 60 extra hp

[cyan tusk]

I meant there was some rebuff passive based on sync that I was ignoring
I guess it’s not the case

[sturdy glen]

Nah totally useless

[cyan tusk]

So I guess Mixred is gonna eat the cake

[sturdy glen]

Me with still 1/5 red

[hollow prism]

You joke but that’s like a 4th skill gear piece lol

We take that

[sturdy glen]

yeah but it's not exactly worth the cost

[hollow prism]

For this HS only i don’t care i’m going full Whale mode

[hardy fog]

You are going beyond whale bro. You are going like giangantasaurus mode.

[cunning shore]

Caking Red? 🤔

[cyan tusk]

Yes I’m gonna use him to deal good damage and an extended use of grassy terrain is always good

[cunning shore]

He gets extended terrain regardless of cake

I was contemplating caking him

But idk if I will need to or not

[cyan tusk]

Cake is for AoE additional damage and stats

[cunning shore]

Ye

[cunning shore]

Me who's already done LG solo with him uncaked

[cyan tusk]

Stats are so good actually

[cunning shore]

Yooo

I shouldn't be this easy influenced 😂

[cyan tusk]

Me too but I did the bulu run so no ex or ex role needed

[hardy fog]

Who would likely to better for HS shauna or dawn? Looking to ex one of them for LG

I'm guessing shauna

[atomic rain]

shauna can actually buff offenses while still being a good physical tank

[hardy fog]

But then Shauna don't need ex to clear LG so seems better for dawn lol

[half orchid]

shauna for hs imo

[cyan tusk]

Shauna: AoE healing + blocking moves with the shield

[cunning shore]

Dawn is a beast solo for LG

Shauna Probably better usage in HS though

[sullen pier]

beast solo
only has 2 solos on the 2 easiest stages

Shauna is better on LG overall

[cunning shore]

I meant currently

Very non rng solo

Vs Bulu

[hardy fog]

Yea I ex shauna anyway her bulu clear was op

[true sparrow]

Shauna is a better unit in general, but Dawn can be a better counter of specific stages if they're fully physical

[oak fulcrum]

I'll probably end up giving both the EX, I've just done Shauna for now

[mortal timber]

[main pulsar]

Raicute

[half orchid]

shes very underrated imo

might just be people not having her built but she holds up well for a genpool

[atomic rain]

problem is that shes too similar to another support we already have

cough aaron

[hardy fog]

Man don't know how i should feel about this

[cunning shore]

No defenses

Die in piece

Pieces

Peace and pieces

[haughty haven]

No Hp, No Def

[hardy fog]

So much dmg though

Kill fast?

Lol

Technically 8%

[true sparrow]

Not really, you're not making use of the asleep one

[sturdy glen]

ramos gaming

[cunning shore]

Ramos ftw

[urban reef]

In comes resilience

[hardy fog]

Yall no fun

[hardy fog]

This new feather is not bad

Lose the stats but have dmg reduction which makes up for it

[radiant pebble]

Bruh even his feather is made for high score

[oak fulcrum]

What piece does it go to though?

[livid abyss]

is there any f2p mons that can go through the event for the quest ?

i was thinking about bringing maybe wynona+skyla and letting zerena or cerena go under the 3 mn it should work no ?

as ihave no flying zone

[sturdy glen]

why not cyrus?

benefits of rain
and doesnt waste time on long animations
(unless u give him healthy healing)

[arctic quest]

This is the high score thread did you mean to be in #1009557516369281075?

[livid abyss]

sorry i thought i was

[hollow prism]

Holy shit that’s crazy

Are the stats any good or no

[sturdy glen]

+60

[hollow prism]

Ew

[sturdy glen]

yeah...

[hollow prism]

Ok so everpin on probably a 100 HP on a pin or something?

What does it give for the pin? Anything besides HP?

[sturdy glen]

+70

[hollow prism]

Anything else besides the HP

[sturdy glen]

ah... i dont remember

[hollow prism]

If it gives atk or sp atk and you pin a +100, i think i’m going to do that actually

Because my Bandanna and Bracelet are already nuts

[soft sedge]

Special feathers for pins give HP+70 and Speed+20

And you can't everpin the stats, it's only for theme skills and additional effects

[hardy fog]

I think it’s great for people who might not be able to roll as much

I might just slap it on the gear that I can’t roll

[grand perch]

I don’t bother rolling for skill gear so hell yeah I’m slapping that on a random gear

[hollow prism]

Yeah on second thought maybe those feathers aren’t very good

The stats just suck

Maybe the pin because the HP isn’t awful and the extra abilities are that strong

[hardy fog]

I mean you are losing like 20-30 def stats for 4% DMG reduction. It's can't be that bad.

Unless you roll 30 stats with 4% reduction then that's Gosu tier

[crude iron]

Considering my experience/view of the skill gear I’m prob gonna just put all the rainbows on pins at a later date. Rather have custom rolled bracelet/bandana for most teams, pin idm being little lazy with for most teams.

Besides, the offense slots make a bigger difference when I’m still feather gated for rolling imo

[cunning shore]

Rainbow feathers are collectables for me

Not for usage

[sturdy glen]

[hollow prism]

You guys going for the Paid Gem scout or normal scout on Sycamore today?

Also gl to all you on your pulls

[hollow prism]

8K gems NICE

That a huge save for pulls this holiday

Ticket missed but whatever

Now that i saved 12k i think i can safely pull for nate

[rain sierra]

Are you ready for another HS where NC Blue will carry another 1k?

[hollow prism]

Yes because I have 3/5 with Cake

:)

[hollow prism]

someone asked about whether or not having a strike cake on would affect the unit’s damage on an 80% reduction stage

How would that work?

[arctic quest]

Only the main role should count

[sturdy glen]

since that i got sycamore thrice ||in the first pull||
is it me or his grid cant be minmaxed?
i cant pick all the HSE stuff

[cyan tusk]

It can’t

[sturdy glen]

dammit why dena?

[main pulsar]

To pick what kind of grass team you want him on I suppose

Terrain or not

[sturdy glen]

i wasnt counting terrain stuff

i want to pick sync regen, tm mpr, potion mpr, dashing team and flabbergast

[hollow prism]

No you want bottom left and 2 bottom right tiles and potion tiles on top right and whatever is to the left of the sync tile on top left i forget what

His grid is way too spread out

[sturdy glen]

yeah that's the problem

[hollow prism]

I go for potion tiles then cross over to the left through sync

Then go straight down for whatever the tile 3 below the right of his grid is

[sturdy glen]

what the hell are these road indications 🤣
just tell what u pick

[hollow prism]

I forget what The tiles were lmao

Sorry give me a minute

I was thinking this

[sturdy glen]

why endurance instead of tm mpr that maxes the defenses of the team?
why triage tank that messes up with the quad queue?

[hollow prism]

Oh does Triage tank fuck up quad

Yeah that’s not great then

Endurance i think could be good because it leaves you open to take a nuke hit after the sync

I went for Triage because I thought the confusion tile on the way would be nice to have

[shy flower]

Just run adrenaline

[mortal timber]

How is the planning going here for y'all

[main pulsar]

I did this

Because I realized I had 200 strike candy coins

And I wanted to close the gap with my other coins

But that’s as far as my loss aversion goes

Can’t get myself to use more

[sturdy glen]

i got 2 more sycamore copies than anticipated

[mortal timber]

wonderful

[sturdy glen]

now my friends are mocking me saying
"if you dont get top 5 we're gonna dumpster u"

[mortal timber]

lol, all on you then

imma just chill and help others this round

[main pulsar]

I’m kinda not want sycamore summon because I want bug wish and ncrosa

But I also want him

[mortal timber]

you won't see any teams or stuff from me for obvious reasons

[sturdy glen]

i still lack of mallow

[main pulsar]

He looks cool

Dabbo not going hard

[mortal timber]

yup, it's over

[main pulsar]

It’s like a new era

A titan has retired

[mortal timber]

this happens when you can't get everything without spending money

[main pulsar]

Understandable

[mortal timber]

which was due to happen tbh, wasn't expecting to last for three types

[main pulsar]

I also lack a vallow and viktor

[mortal timber]

i lack everything in grass lmfao

[main pulsar]

I see

[mortal timber]

so enjoy!

[main pulsar]

[sturdy glen]

90% victor will not be relevant for top 50

[main pulsar]

Really now

[zealous elm]

Isn't he like top grass dps?

[shy flower]

One of the top, yes

[zealous elm]

So I would think it would be hella relevant then

Unless we get some funky conditions

[arctic quest]

Most likely will be

[mortal timber]

he is gonna be indeed crucial imo

[frank girder]

Yes we will

[sturdy glen]

I STILL LACK OF MALLOW
(and SCrosa will probably not get to 3/5
due to the lack of candies)

https://tenor.com/view/cry-crying-cat-crying-cat-cry-why-gif-27571714

[frank girder]

Don’t care

[sturdy glen]

[frank girder]

Imagine me trying to reach Top100 without Sycamore

And I’m still lacking Bulu

[sturdy glen]

another brave italian comrade fallen
to the funny dena whale moment 🫡

[frank girder]

I will resist

Anyway, besides Sycamore (not enough gems for everything), i also lack VMallow, and especially SCRosa

It will be hard

[shy flower]

I have everyone except Adaman my chances of top cut are zero

[chilly kayak]

you? missing a unit? how does that happen?

[shy flower]

I've been missing exactly one unit every HS event Lodge Adaman, SS Hau, V Kiawe, and now Adaman

I got shafted pretty hard by Irida so I couldn't go for Adaman when he debuted 😭

[main pulsar]

i lack 3 of the big units

will still go for top 100

dabbo has fallen

[mortal timber]

i lack 7, i won't waste my time on a lost cause

plus smth i should also start mentioning, slowly i am starting losing interest in the game in general, but i gotta still think about it better

so yeah, will see

[main pulsar]

Nuuuuu

(I think I feel it too honestly)

[sturdy glen]

then u gotta hope that the new mode will be good

[sullen kestrel]

Same, problem is I have multiple units I want on rerun and if I want to come back that list will prob increase

Also sunk cost fallacy ig

[sullen kestrel]

I want EoS and a new mobile game for pkmn day, that isnt a gacha

[main pulsar]

most content in this game is very similar

i think ultimate battles are a very appreciated spice but its one battle

every other content is a roster check of some kind

ultimates are a show your mettle kind of battle

high score is kinda a mixture of both

[hollow prism]

Ultimate Battles are 100% a roster check

And a pretty blatant one at that

[sullen kestrel]

No ultimate battles are have like a specific 1-2 mf(s) or give up

[main pulsar]

They’re a roster check until people start beating it without the unit they wanted

Which means they really don’t qualify as one

Whereas high score you literally need a type

And gauntlet isn’t as specific of a check but it asks how many units do you have to counter these gimmicks

[shy flower]

You can do high score and get all the rewards by using only gen pool units of that type and stronger units of other types

[main pulsar]

Yah get all the rewards but

[shy flower]

Ultimate battles are much more restricted, but they also give fewer rewards. They're designed as a hybrid roster and skill check

[main pulsar]

That’s not the main attraction

[shy flower]

If you're comparing "main attraction", then comparing ultimate battles to high score doesn't really make sense

[main pulsar]

Well I suppose for some people it is but then gauntlet is barely any of a check

[sullen kestrel]

Eh there isnt that many other options tho

Like most clears for anabel use atleast one of nc serena and blue and ss kris I think

Also even the alternatives are quite hard since they’ll require other MFs or just high investment, I havent even seen clears using ss kris/nc serena for anabel or nc leaf/blue for thorton at 1/5

This is the only clear I found without nc blue/nc serena/ss kris for anabel, and the thorton one has either nc blue or nc leaf

[main pulsar]

no lol

ive seen glorialt and elaine 3 times and theres that 8 hour scshauna double serena clear

[sullen kestrel]

I was just looking on the doc, I didnt know about that one

Either way gloralt shafted me and I didnt pull for elaine

Also no sc shauna but I have all serenas except pal

[main pulsar]

Well sure but I’m just saying if you bang your head against the brick wall something can happen

Whereas for roster checks you have to just have it really

[shy flower]

It's easier to bang your head against the cushioned wall of HS than the lead wall of UB. Sure, people will do either, but the UBs are permanent and not ranked, so people will spend more time trying random teams against them

[atomic rain]

the thing with HS is that you dont even need 15 grass types

like 2 grass 1 off type can still get 180k

and unless you have absurdly powerful pairs UB are just not doable off type

[main pulsar]

Well sure you can just go for 180k but that’s honestly not all that enjoyable

And also that’s limited

[atomic rain]

how is that limited

if you’ve been playing the game for more than a day you will have at least 10

[main pulsar]

No the event

[shy flower]

"Enjoyment" is relative. I would argue that the UBs are inherently not enjoyable

[atomic rain]

UBs being permanent content doesnt make them any less horrendous though

[main pulsar]

The event is limited so the rewards you can actually get shouldn’t be compared

[atomic rain]

i wasnt even talking about that

[main pulsar]

Since you’ll eveeeeentually be able to clear it

[atomic rain]

but you can clear the 5 hs stages with 0 effort for 500 gems

so like

eh

[atomic rain]

by eventually you mean like 3 years later

cuz reruns are atrocious in this game

[main pulsar]

Well based on the powercreep in this game I’d say if you were in the game at the time and then 1 year passed you’d be good to go

[shy flower]

That's assuming you actually pull for the newer units

[main pulsar]

Someone played for an entire year that’s new and doesn’t summon for 3 newer units?

Possible but exceedingly rare

[shy flower]

Perhaps I should clarify: it's assuming you pull for the specific new units that can clear the UBs

For example, I have no doubts that people will be able to clear Anabel and Thorton with NC Rosa, but NC Nate I do have doubts about

[atomic rain]

assuming they even do this in the first place but its unlikely cuz the whole point of ubs is being unreasonably hard and releasing units specifically designed to counter those is silly considering its permanent

[shy flower]

Even if they did release units specifically to counter them, it would be silly to pull for them if the sole goal is to beat the UBs

[main pulsar]

Well ncblue was hardly designed for thorton he’s just turbo broken

Though I guess if someone just never summoned for a turbo broken character they wouldn’t be able to clear it but

That’s pretty rare imo

This is assuming we start now

Because from now until anni 5 we will get ncncnc red :p

[shy flower]

Not as rare as you might think. There are plenty of people who didn't summon any of the NC Kantrio

[main pulsar]

Ye but there were a few clears outside of them

[atomic rain]

he wasnt designed with anabel in mind either but thats what happens when you give a support with 340 to both defenses the ability to raise defenses and debuff offenses simultaneously

[main pulsar]

So as time goes by

I can see it become more accessible

[atomic rain]

hardly

[main pulsar]

As more blue tier supports and such gets released

[atomic rain]

36.6k gems isnt exactly accessible

[shy flower]

On average, more people will have enough units as time goes on, but I sincerely doubt it'll only be a year

[atomic rain]

and while thats assuming worst case scenario its the expectation that you’ll need to pity

[main pulsar]

Negh saying you’ll just not get any new units cuz pity is hard is eh

[atomic rain]

its not hard

but its not accessible either

accessible would be like gen pool with at most a 3/5 fair

[hollow prism]

HOW TF DOES THAT BEAT ANABEL

[atomic rain]

oleana is -18 basically instantly and roxie constantly debuffs spdef

and you get rebuff + poison so roxie can start spamming dps

its probably really tight cuz oleana is ground weak

[hollow prism]

Damn the first thing i thought of was Poison stall

But then i went “Wait doesn’t anabel have LP10”

[hardy fog]

When you need grass gear this is what they do to you

[maiden canopy]

Because plants need water obvs.

[hardy fog]

Waiting for that Ludicolo to drop

[shy flower]

Juliana with Wellspring Ogerpon

[hardy fog]

It's a sick water piece though

[sullen pier]

Arch surely has bad taste

[arctic quest]

Juliana

[shy flower]

What you got against cute protag from Paldea

[sullen pier]

he wants Kieran to pair with Ogerpon smh

[arctic quest]

Funny way to spell bland & boring no-personality protag

[shy flower]

Have we even seen Juliana or Florian outside of them being protags? I genuinely don't know

[arctic quest]

Idts

[shy flower]

Seems a bit mean to judge them as bland and boring when that's every pokémon protag before we see them outside the mainline games

[arctic quest]

Valid point, I will say the DLC outfits/designs do make that a lot better. But at least in terms of character design all protags have something unique or characteristic about em, the hats + school uniform on Juliana/Florian dulls em out imo

[shy flower]

That is very fair. As much as I like that clothing isn't split by gender, I'm not a big fan of the school uniform either. It'd be nice if there were more they could do or have to stand out a bit

[arctic quest]

Yee, same here

[shy flower]

Hopefully their debuts here in PoMa will help fix that

[arctic quest]

Just realised we're in the High Score thread 🏃‍♂️ 💨

SS Juliana & Clodsire for ground HSE, of course

[shy flower]

Ngl Koraidon would probably be really handy for Fighting HS

[arctic quest]

I could see Koraidon with both Fighting Zone & Sun

[shy flower]

That's what I was thinking. Hopefully they won't make it focus too much on SE with Collision Course

[arctic quest]

Yeah that would be a little tragic

Especially for HSE

[shy flower]

Yeah Hopefully it'll just be an extra and it'll still work well enough offtype

[sullen pier]

cough Gladion cough