High Score

[sullen pier]

Im more of LSycamore truther than Selene truther

Girl has been disappointing me for so long

Power boost when

[mortal timber]

Yeah either Selene gets smth or she ain't it

Sorry not sorry

She needs to beat so many allegations it's not even funny

[sullen pier]

Dreamy will come to both of our houses tonight

[forest ferry]

Sycamore is totally getting a poison mid stage

So he should be fine

[mortal timber]

We just speaking truth, we safe

[sullen pier]

They overbalanced her smh

[mortal timber]

Anni Steven moment

[sullen pier]

At least he got two redemption arcs

[forest ferry]

She's still fine for nuke

[mortal timber]

Thing is even Dawn would love one

So like

Who to prioritize lol

She will tank the heck out of a physical stage

But I want more passives

[sullen pier]

Shared Healing 2 on TM, take ot or leave it

Fr tho i want her to be able to buff spdef aoe or Adrenaline

[mortal timber]

Me like that

[frank girder]

Next Month Lyra's turn, she's the only member of the Johtrio without expanded grid

[sullen pier]

Or more multipliers

[open flame]

Can I get a shoutout for ranking Ultra 1

[sullen pier]

We dont talk about Lyra

[mortal timber]

I would take a Lyra buff

She can't tank now but maybe

God knows

[frank girder]

She needs a buff

Let her be able to tank

Sync Damage Guard + Safety Net

[mortal timber]

+1000 defenses

Pls

[sullen pier]

Give her Tough Skin 3

[forest ferry]

She can tank as long as you keep light screen up forever

[sullen pier]

Reality: Damage Reduction (Physical): on Entry

[frank girder]

They'll buff her in January after HS end

[sullen pier]

Dont cope too hard

[mortal timber]

If they do it would be outrageous

End of Jan buffs I would lose it

[forest ferry]

Watch them buff kiawe and give team barricade buddies for December

[frank girder]

Clemont: hello

[mortal timber]

Lmfao

[frank girder]

100% happening

[mortal timber]

Forgot about it

[frank girder]

And also Koko's rerun the month after

[mortal timber]

5/5 SS hau haver here

Hau diff

[frank girder]

Watch then rerun Adaman late January with Role EX

[mortal timber]

Lmfao

That would be funny

[forest ferry]

Adaman will get strike Rolex

So that we all can mald

[frank girder]

Oh yes I want to break my phone when he sync

[forest ferry]

I mean
That's the best he can get for hs

Coz sides are often too bulky

[frank girder]

I'm coping for Field or Support btw

[forest ferry]

Outside hs I'd prefer pretty much any role on him

But HS means strike+tech Rolex all the way

Tho I hope he doesn't get supp Rolex

Coz I am legit broke on supp cake

Still have to Rolex Paulo and cerena and I already gave cake to zerena

[frank girder]

Same, tomorrow I'll role my beloved Greninja

[desert elm]

So close

[open flame]

Damnnn lol.

Wonder what the cutoff was

[cyan tusk]

3/5 adaman, mix red and SsLyra, you’re ready to go

Till we get stage conditions and bonuses it’s not worth start doing something actually

We don’t want sages to get an heart attack before time

Let him stay on holiday for this month

[chilly flame]

Ayeeeee

Ggs, it was fun having a little competition wit y’all

[rough forum]

No sub 100 yet here but I'm 3 out of 3 sub 500

And considering I'm only missing 4 grass units I bet I'll keep the tradition going for grass too

[cunning shore]

If you're not ready for green hs I might need to reconsider all my life choices

Green

Lol

Grass*

[sullen pier]

[arctic quest]

green hs

[cyan tusk]

Green hs

[chilly flame]

Green hs

[cunning shore]

[haughty haven]

I want Blue HS

[chilly flame]

That was the first one to come out

[cyan tusk]

We had blue yellow and red

[haughty haven]

To use my fresh VLyra

[cunning shore]

I want dark pink

[haughty haven]

Oh i have fk VKris and VLucas too

They came to me when their HS type already ended

[maiden canopy]

What about purple HS?

[haughty haven]

I dont have much purple pair

[forest ferry]

Grass will be the last HS I can actually compete

After grass all HS I'll slack

[main pulsar]

Yeah lyra****** came a wee late

Honestly one of my least wanted but there we are

[haughty haven]

What is her color ?

[shell oak]

ourple

[onyx crystal]

You've never pinged me any score.

[hybrid nova]

Ok, was not aware that I needed to do that

[onyx crystal]

add your Strength

[hybrid nova]

Kiawe: +234
Blaine: +250
Flint: +300
Chili: +300
Flannery: +250

[royal tiger]

oh

i can add my scores too i guess?

[hybrid nova]

Thank you Sage

[royal tiger]

@onyx crystal 200 strength to all.

[onyx crystal]

<t:1700837160:D> Point Floor/Ceiling Change

• Rank 1: 464,995 -> 489,032 (+24,037)
• Top 10: 419,711 -> 452,700 (+32,989)
• Top 25: 417,028
• Top 50: 345,660 -> 375,895 (+30,235)
• Top 75: 356,069
• Top 100: 316,714 -> 335,403 (+18,689)

Rank 10,000 is above 200,000

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Does anyone know what the 10k cutoff was?

[royal tiger]

#1128052735967764621 message around above this score i guess?

[onyx crystal]

Going forward, I will not be doing day-to-day point growths. I'll just be doing day 1, day 7, day-before, and end.

[cunning shore]

Always appreciated

[onyx crystal]

Fire HS Point Floor/Ceiling Changes

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If you have a score of 335,403 or higher (top 100) please lmk so you can be included in the #pm-bulletin-board post. Or if your score is out-of-date.

[frank girder]

Something between 200k and 202.500

[onyx crystal]

Grass Sync Pairs added to grading sheet. Guess you can speculate on stage gimmicks.

[forest ferry]

just put SSlyra in S rank for all tiers for now

And put rosa and gardenia in F ig

[sturdy glen]

finally some job to do 🔥

[sullen pier]

imagine a stage having -80% stat on tech

[open flame]

Hey that's me

[sullen pier]

[frank girder]

wdym, you are always lazy

[frank girder]

Yup

[forest ferry]

Fine
A for that stage for sslyra

[sturdy glen]

*some job that i like to do

[frank girder]

Btw, I'm expecting a stage that completely negates Field Effects

[forest ferry]

Victor stage

Coz every other grass unit has sun multiplier

[stray dust]

Only missing variety mallow

[sturdy glen]

you posted shauna twice

[atomic rain]

did they already announce grass hs or is this speculation

[forest ferry]

announced

[atomic rain]

oh

maybe i can tryhard that one

but no ss lyra

[stray dust]

180k and done for me

Unless new medal

[forest ferry]

I am expecting 550k rank 1 for it

[frank girder]

Or Skymin/ShinyTsaar

[graceful pike]

no mix red

No variety mallow

I'm doomed

[atomic rain]

on second thought maybe not

[frank girder]

I mean shiny Tsaar has sun multipliers, but you can avoid them at need

[atomic rain]

ss ace and ss erika have to be different teams

[stray dust]

I definitely can top 100 but not worth the time and effort

[atomic rain]

eh they’re not really negotiable for her

her attack stat is very low so she needs multipliers to compensate

[forest ferry]

Only F2P units I am expecting to see in rank 1 for grass are Ramos, dawn, sserika and Brendan

That's how good limited grass is

[graceful pike]

Top is gonna be hard

but

eh, we'll see how it goes

probably have to make ss leaf 5/5 for the debuffs

[stray dust]

Top 100 is definitely possible for u

[graceful pike]

Lodge blue is also quite a contender just saying

he can flinch

[atomic rain]

yeah im not gonna tryhard this

[forest ferry]

Is he bulky enuff to high str?

[atomic rain]

literally no limiteds besides ss acerola

[graceful pike]

Definitely, but no Mix Red makes me cringe

[stray dust]

I mean have u been pulling the mix banner

[forest ferry]

I am quite certain mixred is what that's gonna seperate top 50 from rest

[stray dust]

Most people I know who have been pulling it since day 1 got at least 2/5 red

[forest ferry]

He himself probs pushes 30-50k pts

[stray dust]

Some others got 9/5 red

[forest ferry]

I am legit just gonna run sleepbot+tank+dps for 4 runs and 5th run gonna be ssleaf+lblue

[graceful pike]

lol

i got

0 red in 60 points

decided not to do anymore

too poor

[frank girder]

Yes but you can't take all of them, so it depends if you want to sacrifice her DPS or Sync Nuke

[stray dust]

Well that's the problem

[graceful pike]

help me then

speaking of which

gonna

save money for next month

who knows

IF it has NC Rosa

I will do everything to get her to 5/5

[stray dust]

The moment I got 3/5 red I stop pulling the mix banner entirely and wait for may 2024

[graceful pike]

she's the only reason why i still care about this game tbh

[forest ferry]

You mean NCrosa and virzion for grass HS

[atomic rain]

well furious brawn is easier to cap than maintaining sun

[forest ferry]

you don't have to worry abt the low attack

[frank girder]

And that's why I would rather sacrifice Solar Flare 5 instead of Insult to Injury or Furious Brawn

[forest ferry]

Running tech grass with her ontop of proper gears is like 130+ atk

[stray dust]

Can't wait for NC blue to sneak into another top comps

[forest ferry]

NCblue isn't sneaking unless you are broke

Grass tanks are stacked at what they do

Oh yea vallow is variety so those that skipped her might run NCblue for special stages

[stray dust]

Yeah

Very very low amounts of people pulled her

Only those that LG hard went for her

[cyan tusk]

Likely to happen so they will ask you to pull on mix red

[forest ferry]

I am mad that mix red didn't get a single free banner before HS

[weary rivet]

Shaunas time to shine

[sullen pier]

[forest ferry]

Tbh I am considering to stop at 180k depending on grass rate ups next month and month after

[cyan tusk]

Im going for that!!
Jk I like my mental health

[forest ferry]

It's so dumb to paywall a unit

[mortal timber]

[atomic rain]

honestly they shouldve made him run for like 2 weeks then introduce mix as a permanent way to get him

[stray dust]

I have been doing that since 2nd HS

[atomic rain]

i stopped at 180k for electric

no rats

no nc blue

basically pain

i didnt even try fire

cuz kiawe is mean :(

[forest ferry]

I slacked on fire

[atomic rain]

and grass is gonna be copium

[forest ferry]

But did try hard for electric and water

[atomic rain]

i barely got the medal for water

and that was after like

spending 10 hours on misty and an hour on lana

pushing scores

lana was mainly out of spite

[cyan tusk]

Btw that’s fair, she’s gonna shine for those juicy mini potions

[atomic rain]

definitely couldve chosen to push archie instead

but i got it

so lol

[forest ferry]

misty was designed to fuck you up if you didn't own sskris

[atomic rain]

yeah

[forest ferry]

Coz water is pretty weak on spl tanks

[atomic rain]

i had to use misty

and archie ended up dying

cuz he refuses to dodge

had to finish it with may

[frank girder]

I Will try to hit again Top100 after electric, but without Bulu or Skymin it will be challenging

[forest ferry]

sskris comps could pull like 110k pts vs misty

[atomic rain]

i think you can still find my messages where im raging at misty

its kinda funny in retrospect

[forest ferry]

While if you don't have her, you were struggling for 65k rangs

It's so dumb

[atomic rain]

idr what i even got for her

[cyan tusk]

I’ll take 10 Misty for a single flint

Lmao what a hate for that stage

[forest ferry]

Flint was easy tho

Lana was worse

[atomic rain]

i think lana is the worst hs stage ever conceived

no healing

hard hitting moves that also have really bad secondary effects

[forest ferry]

Lana, Nessa and volkner are the worst from my experience

[atomic rain]

and sides also hit really fucking hard

[cyan tusk]

Not if you were trying to push scores bc of Eva post sync

[atomic rain]

plus defense multipliers

:)

[graceful pike]

uhhh

[forest ferry]

Yea coz fire roster is ass defensively
I meant stages themselves

[cyan tusk]

Imo the worst have been
Flint
Volkner
Surge - Lana

[graceful pike]

Elesa for me was kind of cringe

[frank girder]

Evasion + No Heal, what a fun stage

[atomic rain]

get urshifu or dont bother pushing

[graceful pike]

like if you don't have debuff

you lose

[atomic rain]

OH RIGHT x evasion all

💀

[graceful pike]

i had to use Rosa Lodge

Worked

[forest ferry]

If flint like stage was put for water or electric, you'd have sweeped it

[atomic rain]

i had dgloria and it sucked ass

[forest ferry]

Nessa Defo takes the cake for worst stage

All those EQ spam

Volkner was replicating same shit

[cyan tusk]

It’s the same as Volkner for all those swift/discharge spam btw

[forest ferry]

With discharge

[atomic rain]

i off typed nessa

[cyan tusk]

Flint was no heal - eva and the sides had stuff like close combat / brave bird

Like if you flinch the mid you’re over lmao

[atomic rain]

and i had to pray she didnt earthquake 3 times in a row post sync

it was so awful

[cyan tusk]

Also chili was a mess as a stage per se bc he started to spam flare blitz after sync

On the other hand I’d say kiawe was not that hard compared to the others bc houndoom had snarl which is not so hard hitting and chandelure could be countered somehow

[rustic summit]

why i prefer gauntlet tbh

[sullen pier]

[worn bronze]

This is grass HS erasure, Gakon!

[sullen pier]

[cunning shore]

I don't want to look at my grass types

[worn bronze]

How many grass limited?

[sturdy glen]

in his roster or in general?

[worn bronze]

Roster

[hardy fog]

His grass roster looks like mine haha and mime is only 5 months old

@cunning shore looks like Blaze you and I can have some comp for this one 😂

[cunning shore]

I ain't gon try unless i get some sort of massive luck with my current units

[hardy fog]

Realistically you are only missing 3 big units

Bulu. Victor. Mallow.

I guess Sonia will be a key Dps too

I guess that's a lot haha

[hardy fog]

You say this now but still end up pumping the scores lol

[cunning shore]

Actually

Maybe you're right

Maybe I will offtype some good stages

[hardy fog]

Pretty sure NC Leaf will be played

[thorny grove]

Mallow? Why I almost never see her used

[hardy fog]

The variety one

[thorny grove]

Ooohhhhh shinotic

I forgot she existed

[mortal timber]

Vmallow good

Very very good

Gonna make a good diff

[hardy fog]

Best special tank for this hs

[forest ferry]

people without vallow gonna force Erika for spl tank

That's how much physical focused grass is

[hardy fog]

I feel like the banner has to be Bulu

[forest ferry]

Tho grass does have some spl atk debuff access so it's manageable

Only victor , ssleaf and bulu for PFs

So it's gonna be 2 of em out of 3

I don't think it's gonna be solo or triple rate up

[hardy fog]

Solo would be horrible

[forest ferry]

If it's victor+ssleaf, Ill gamble

Otherwise I am saving

Bulu doesn't need more than 3/5

[hardy fog]

Bulu will put me back in the game for at least top 100😂

I just feel like ss leaf is not a money maker for them

[forest ferry]

5/5 ssleaf is absurdly strong

Tho not being able to run sleep is a downside for her

pre 5/5 she's very meh

[hardy fog]

I know but bulu uber tier support is going to make way more money than people trying to pull for 5/5 ss leaf haha

[cyan tusk]

I was gonna post a Vmallow grid but there’s too much stuff I need to see Jan data to understand what to take

[cyan tusk]

But she’s a reeeeally expensive grid

[hardy fog]

She has so much going for her

[forest ferry]

What expensive

Go full utility

[cyan tusk]

Like you grab the 2 nuke nodes and you’re done

[forest ferry]

No nuke

Only potion MPR

Noxious hit

Hem 2 in 1

Discombulate

She isn't going to dps shit unless you bring vallow

Grass has plenty nuke capability

The 3rd unit can do the job

[cyan tusk]

Or og lyra

[hardy fog]

@forest ferry it sounds like you are convinced you better buy the candy bundle and get the job done 🥹

[hardy fog]

You think she will get played?

Sigh mine is 1/5 lol

[cyan tusk]

She might, why not

[forest ferry]

[cyan tusk]

[forest ferry]

Even better

[cyan tusk]

She can always spam some frenzy plant with tp5

[forest ferry]

Wait but my discombulate

For evasion hax

well if team has aoe nuke, ig it's not needed

[hardy fog]

So tp5 is 50% more dmg right?

[forest ferry]

Tho the dps is only properly abusable with vallow and maybe BP Barry

Yep

I am kind of expecting horizontal expansions for SSred and ssleaf anyways

Lance and cynthia I think both got it last year on NY

[hardy fog]

Lol it would be interesting if there is a poison stall comp 😂

[forest ferry]

think they'll give crit and maybe entry stat up for ssleaf

[hardy fog]

I'd give you this if I could bro @forest ferry

My trio is 5/5😂

[forest ferry]

Well I am expecting ssleaf rate up somewhere

In next 2 months

So she'll be 5/5 for HS

I doubt they'd skip out her completely when grass PF roster is bare bones

[hardy fog]

Praying for no ss leaf and bulu instead

[forest ferry]

I am coping for strike Rolex adaman next month so that I can run sleep bot as 3rd instead of dps in his comp

[static oar]

Did land in the top 500!

[cunning shore]

You mean offtype

NC Blue at your service

Imma use NC Blue, NC Bede, SSMorty etc

[forest ferry]

Eh rosca can spl debuff so Lyra with lightscreen and debuff can still suffice

But yea
I'll force in SSmorty

Coz I don't have NCblue or vallow

And no rosca either

[cunning shore]

Definitely considering starting now

All 3

Will be someway or another thrown in a team

Morty with Adaman

Works so well

[forest ferry]

dawn, Shauna, lblue are most capable tank access iirc for gen pool
Rest all are limited

Or just not as good

[cunning shore]

SS morty, Adaman and Eggmon Leafeon 🤔
I wonder if that can work in a stage

[forest ferry]

if you are running eggmon

It's either sleep

Or sprigattio

Leafeon not that good to slot

Low defenses

And self buffs

[cunning shore]

Sprigatito it is

[forest ferry]

tbh adaman is wasted in that comp

I'd force him in a 3x grass stage than SSmorty

SSmorty would mostly getting 2x dps comp

[cunning shore]

The idea is I don't have enough to clear all 5 stages without throwing offtypes in

[forest ferry]

yea but you are better off running him with either dawn or Shauna tbh

And 3rd slot be terrain or another dps

[sturdy glen]

EX vMallow bulk is 760/327/353 (+30 hp from grid)
5* erika bulk is 848/229/349 (+70 hp from grid)

very respectable for being a budget option

[forest ferry]

Reminder that erika buffs are self

So vallow is a massive difference

Even if erika lives, your dps still gonna die

Mostly capped at like 600-650 str

When vallow can push much higher

[cunning shore]

Facts

[forest ferry]

I remember SSTred was walled at 650 str or smth with -6 spl atk in electric HS

Without any offensive buffs

And sstred is among the bulkier end of dps

If you aren't bringing -6 spl atk , your dps is tanking even less

it's also one of the reasons why I hate BP Barry

So much potential wasted

Yep
All kiawe solo tank comps in fire hs were less than 600 str.....and the man offers potions

[hollow prism]

Well Kiawe has no defensive buffs period lol

[forest ferry]

he doesn't offer anything to team either

Only we2

[hollow prism]

Shadow Bone?

[forest ferry]

I meant defensive buffs

[hollow prism]

He offers Atk drops

[cunning shore]

Only defensive buffs is wise entry

[forest ferry]

nvm

I am a dumbass

Erika can work

If it works in resilience, it'll be pog

Nvm only -1 spl atk down

Ill take anything at this point due to lack of vallow

[hardy fog]

Erika actually looks really good lol

Stats are top tier

Def budget alt for no vmallow

How much dmg diff is it if you have -6 sp attack on enemy and +6 sp def vs just -6 sp attack

[cunning shore]

Too much maths

When you debuff opponents, they have like less mitigation and stuff like that

So you buffing yourself most likely blocks more than debuffing them

[hardy fog]

@rough forum do you know this question above? Feel like you would

[main pulsar]

What the hell happened here pykuo

[rough forum]

Iirc going from +3 to +6 and from -3 to -6 isn't a huge difference so imo being +6 Vs +0 is worse than -3 Vs +3

Idk if it helps

[magic sandal]

That won’t work

[sturdy glen]

erika when enemies will use x spa all:

[main pulsar]

We know for a fact grsss is next?

[atomic rain]

yes

#game-announcements

[main pulsar]

I see

Initial team ideas

[atomic rain]

that sc rosa team will struggle

ss leaf also gets no buffs besides crit

selene and mallow on the same team feels overkill

[main pulsar]

I’m running into the grass doesn’t have a lot of raise defense options problem again

[half orchid]

ss acerola, dawn, shauna, tl blue, lyra, bp barry all have it in some form

[hardy fog]

The tanks can’t be worse than what we had in fire 😂 I bet there will be ton of poison and para though.

[rough forum]

There's literally no reason to teambuild for HS in advance until we get stage params, weaknesses and moves anyway

[cunning shore]

Yup

Not that I will look

Already trying to forget my grass roster

[main pulsar]

[hardy fog]

Will Brendan get some play time 😂

[sturdy glen]

sure especially with sc rosa / red / sun setters

[cyan tusk]

Why not, auxiliary dps under sun

[cyan tusk]

Tanks are even better than electric actually lol

[oak fulcrum]

at least with the options I have atm, my brendan will slot into a team pretty well regardless of params

[hardy fog]

His numbers looks quite similar to Sonia

The nuke is even better actually

[cyan tusk]

If we get any -80% sync damage stage

Brendan is gonna come in handy

[hardy fog]

So what does the top5 dps look like.

Adaman
Victor
Ss Erika
Brendan
SC Sonia

Alternatives
Ss leaf
Mix red
Lyra

[main pulsar]

He has sun nodes?

TIL

[cyan tusk]

Scrosa

[cyan tusk]

Cs5

[sturdy glen]

that's irrelevant
we might get conditions
that will gut some top options

[main pulsar]

Critical strike?

[cyan tusk]

Charging sun

[atomic rain]

yeah now that he has mega he actually nukes harder than sc sonia

because its a 30% attack 10% special attack buff

[main pulsar]

O

[atomic rain]

and his attacking stats are already high

[main pulsar]

Hm

So I should sun him

Hrm

Grass needs more sun than I realized

Wants I should say

[atomic rain]

he needs speed

sun is for dps

[cyan tusk]

If you don’t nuke with Brendan you can easily pair him with SSErika

[main pulsar]

I don’t think speed should be my concern first and foremost usually

Because usually I have overbar

[atomic rain]

no

[main pulsar]

It’s rare I find myself underbar

[atomic rain]

his multiplier is inertia

he literally needs it

[main pulsar]

Oh that’s what you mean

[atomic rain]

yes

[main pulsar]

[atomic rain]

he has amped up

but speed buffjng grass support is uh

pretty much only acerola i think

[main pulsar]

Actually close to nonexistent

[atomic rain]

yeah

i think he has speedy entryv

maybe

[hardy fog]

Well. Im actually excited to ex brendan 😂

[atomic rain]

no he does not have any speed besides amped up

which is

[main pulsar]

I’ve had him exd for a while, a lot of grass actually, so the only begrudging spendings I’ll have are ssacerola and adaman lel

[atomic rain]

6 attacks

[main pulsar]

I think Brendan’s is good enough not to waste accerola on

[hardy fog]

I need to ex 8 units at least 🥹

Fun

[atomic rain]

yeah i mean hes good its just that maxing inertia before they sync is hard

[hardy fog]

In fire I did ss red sync then support sync than 2 ss red sync

So I think brendan can work the same way

That was for Blaine

[half orchid]

brendan and mallow will do very well

i think theyre slept on for f2p pairs but the grids and stats absolutely hold up

[cyan tusk]

Stop looking at mallow, I know what you will cook with that SHY5

[hardy fog]

I did look at the 2 tsareenas though it's like 50% dmg difference both move and sync lol

[main pulsar]

Shy?

[half orchid]

confusion gaming is back on the menu

[cyan tusk]

Stop hitting yourself 5

[main pulsar]

And honestly it’s only because grass is ultra overloaded

Ah I see

That’s

[cyan tusk]

More confusion and par shenanigans

[main pulsar]

[cyan tusk]

Sleep chain is for boys
Confusion gaming is for men

[main pulsar]

Oh my

[half orchid]

yeah praise stun spore

no more relying on 30% bounce

[cyan tusk]

More relying on stuff that can actually tank

And doesn’t have to pray for a dodge

[sturdy glen]

fun fact: even in hse
sides dont have confusion mitigation

that's very

[half orchid]

works 100% of the time 33% of the time

[cyan tusk]

We know, that was the key for the 950 flint clear with ncblue

[main pulsar]

Jeeez

[cyan tusk]

That and the innate Gloria multiplier activated by ncblue electric rebuff

[hardy fog]

Enigma proved himself to be the confusion Para God from fire

[sturdy glen]

"half the time, works every time"
-Junkrat, Overwatch 2

[cyan tusk]

Well, he’s enigma, he has to master the art of the question mark

Whichever it is

[half orchid]

[forest ferry]

You'll run double dps unless you are lacking enuff dps to begin with

Only time you go solo dps is when ssleaf goes full utility role and Lyra being dedicated as a flincher instead of powerplay nuke

[gentle thistle]

And can probably use non grass for top dps, I think one stage will be weak to fire and NC Leaf will be there

[forest ferry]

I doubt offtype dps will be as significant

Since grass is pretty stacked in that department

I can only see NCblue in stages that people don't have Vallow

[cyan tusk]

Only thing to do for now is to roll grass skill gears

[stray dust]

This will definitely happen for most people tbh

[oak fulcrum]

so still probably not worth grinding grass type gear then (I missed initial run)

[sturdy glen]

nah we're fine we have

1. acerola
2. dawn
3. shauna
   rosa...
   lodge blue...
   lyra...
   erika...

fine... i'll put the electric chicken in the refrigerator

[stray dust]

[cyan tusk]

MH2 giga drain rosa gaming

[sturdy glen]

big gaming for only 500 strentgth
because she doesnt raise team defenses

https://tenor.com/view/last-of-us-pedro-pascal-laughing-laugh-gif-15046177077465406222

[grand perch]

I thought people liked Lodge Blue

[sturdy glen]

they do
but his luck of bulk will not help that much...

probably makes sense adding a second support for rosa
if the fifth requires the same teambulding
then we're gonna lose too many points

[cyan tusk]

Lodge blue being a support with 6ex and 60% flinch move will have his spot

[cyan tusk]

We’ll leave this to other team members

[sturdy glen]

oh that's what you meant for giga drain mh2 gaming
seems very cool

[stray dust]

Variety mallow difference gonna be something

[cyan tusk]

Kind of, stage parameters will adjust but that’s the initial draft

[stray dust]

All the heals too

[cyan tusk]

Can also give up shielded if there’s a pretty special stage

[brave hornet]

@onyx crystal Hi. I'm rank 96 in the high score event.
Strength 650
400
305
450
420

[forest ferry]

There's gonna be -80% stats for supports then it'll be erika gaming

[sullen pier]

or tank Adaman

[chilly flame]

Really hope there’s another debuff parameter

[hardy fog]

@chilly flame what's your grass roster looking like

[chilly flame]

Cracked

Jk

It’s alright

I’ll be getting VMallow from the mix banner pity

How’s your roster?

[hardy fog]

Gg I guess I won't be competing with you this time 😂😂

[chilly flame]

Bro 😭

[hardy fog]

My roster aint too far off from @forest ferry @cunning shore so at least I won't alone buwhahah

[cyan tusk]

This is a pretty competitive grass roster tbh

[cunning shore]

Think we can attempt top 100? 🤔

My top 100 streak 🥲

[hardy fog]

Depends on the grass banner coming I guess

Let's be real though. Top 100 really mostly means we are stupid enough to reset for hours hahaha and there is a very small % of people willing to do it. You are getting less and less each HS as well. So I think we still have a good chance 😂

[cunning shore]

I was higher in this hs

Well

Because I am stacked on fire

My favorite

Other types

[chilly flame]

This one was my lowest placing

[mortal timber]

[main pulsar]

No cap

Mix red gon be a difference

And he’s a p2w exclusive unit

Me no like

[hardy fog]

I do remember wanting to copy your Marnie team it was a solid 90k but my 3rd copy of Clemont wouldnt come 😂

[chilly flame]

You don’t have 3/5 clemont?

[hardy fog]

Haha you can check back I used 2/5 clemont

[chilly flame]

Bro used potionchu

It was that bad huh

[cyan tusk]

This message got me thinking if I had a top 10 streak and I went to look for the electric hs score bc I did not save it last time

[full lark]

Grass HSE is gonna be kinda annoying

If only because I’ll have to rely on Lyra to tank one stage due to not having any of the limited Grass Supports

[hardy fog]

Erika. Dawn. LBlue. Shauna. BpBarry. 5 very viable F2P support 😂

[full lark]

Erika’s only Support version is her Holiday alt which is Fairy

Base and BP are Tech, SS is also Tech

I’ll admit I haven’t looked much into BP Barry’s tanking capabilities yet, though

[hardy fog]

Vileplume have like 300 sp def and sp attack Debuff

[full lark]

I guess I’ll have to see if she can tank any of the stages when the event arrives, then

[onyx crystal]

added

[cyan tusk]

Vileplume is a great tank ngl, if they release any grass type with Ex r support she can be easily used as a high point tank

[chilly flame]

doubt

[cyan tusk]

We still have 2 months

[chilly flame]

arent there only two limited grass supports

mallow and acerola?

[half orchid]

yeah

[cyan tusk]

Yes but I’m speaking about any other role with 6Ex R support

[half orchid]

i think vileplume will need teambuilding support to work since her healing is in small increments

and she needs sun

[chilly flame]

I was referring to what cobalt said tho

[cyan tusk]

Yup I was brainstorming some ideas to make Vileplume work as a tank

[chilly flame]

i dont think i can see her doing that well

[cyan tusk]

Maybe og Lyra + one among Adaman/SSErika

[half orchid]

i've thought about it a bit and i think i really like lyra with ss leaf

and i'd give the 3rd slot to another dps just because i think lyra should be able to tank alright with leaf's potion support

[chilly flame]

regular or ss?

[half orchid]

meganium lyra

[cyan tusk]

Meganium bc we are imagining around sun

[chilly flame]

im concerned about what kinda conditions we'll have

Debuffs? Status conditions?

[half orchid]

100% status conditions

[cyan tusk]

I do expect status conditions/debuffs and a stage with -80% then no WTZ in effect

We have too many limited grass types with perma effects

They usually do build stages around limited units

[half orchid]

i can see a stage with techs nerfed

pump up those victor stocks

[chilly flame]

yea

SC Sonia ftw

[cyan tusk]

Mix red:

[chilly flame]

fr

[half orchid]

👨‍🍳

[cyan tusk]

The debuff stage for ScRosa/Mix Red going to town

[chilly flame]

no wtz would be kinda crazy

[half orchid]

mix red is gonna be top tier in general for this

going fully p2w, tears in my eyes

[cyan tusk]

I’m holding to my striker cake for him

Also nerfed sync again would be plausible

Where stuff like og Lyra - Brendan can shine

The 2 +1000 parameters could be
Main character - Gym leader
Status conditions (par/poison)

[half orchid]

i think a koga-style stage would be fun. big spdef on center and big phys def on the sides

a couple mixed attackers in grass that could be put to work there

[chilly flame]

I'm waiting to see if adaman gets a cake rerun

[cyan tusk]

I actually don’t know bc there’s a bunch of mf that should rerun before him

But I wouldn’t ve surprised if they Did (striker/supp role plz)

[chilly flame]

plz

actually no, please be strike

i need support for others

[cyan tusk]

The parameters could also be stuff like
Debuffs
Hp/n* of moves
Time 🕰️

[chilly flame]

the best case scenario ^

well actually, time wouldnt be that great

[cyan tusk]

And then we get a stage where

• opponents get -80% dmg when no type rebuff in place-

[chilly flame]

but i can make it work

im curious if they'd do the opposite

they take 80% less when there's no field effect

[shy flower]

inb4 it's like
Fewest moves
Longest time
Fewest buffs
or something like that

[chilly flame]

that'd be interesting, cuz you have to constantly cycle it

[cyan tusk]

Grass type have less buffs compared to other types actually

We do agree grass can be interesting, I see

[chilly flame]

yea

[shy flower]

I'd also bet that there'll be at least one stage that would be very detrimental to have both sun and grassy terrain

Should be very interesting to see

[chilly flame]

I think this one will be the most fun

if not, tied with water

[cyan tusk]

Well water was fun but also bc there’s plenty of f2p options to pick

(And everyone wanted the medal)

[shy flower]

I wonder if they'll do a "support pairs have -80% stats" modifier this time

[cyan tusk]

That would really be OgErika and vileplume moment lmao

[chilly flame]

yea lmfao

[shy flower]

Time for Mallow confusion tanking

They'll make the stage physical to punish using Erika

[chilly flame]

in that case ur best tank would probably be mix red lmao

[cyan tusk]

Time for confusion hax with stop hitting yourself

[main pulsar]

P2w moment

Or that

[chilly flame]

confusion is such an awful mechanic

[main pulsar]

Simply cease hitting thyself

[shy flower]

Does SHY 5 stack with itself?

[cyan tusk]

Shy stacks yes but she has it via grid

And she’s the only grass type to have it, others are Sydney, will, and maybe Hacerola but I’m not sure

[shy flower]

Gonna run NY Dawn or F Acerola with it to double the confusion chances

[cyan tusk]

Yes she has it too

Keep it for ghost hse

[shy flower]

You right

[chilly flame]

ghost will be so awful

[shy flower]

I wonder if they're gonna have someone set up sun during the Ghost HS so people have to run Acerola to counter it with sand

[cyan tusk]

Chandelure

[shy flower]

Shauntal gonna torture us as revenge for never having gotten an alt

Bruh I just realized we only have 4 Strike Ghost pairs

[cyan tusk]

You’ll get tons of ghost types before ghost hse no worries

Don’t overthink, we still have to survive grass

[main pulsar]

They need to slow down after grass

Fire is a popular type and it was still really bad

[cyan tusk]

Id like to give up types after psychic/ghost in turn of theme skills

Like a rival/main protag hse

Or stuff like that

[main pulsar]

That would be cool

[mortal timber]

For now I am just caring rolling grass skill gears

Fuck team building till I see the stages

[cyan tusk]

I started today too

But it can definitely be better

[mortal timber]

Yeah I will just focus on those till January

Not gonna care about units till then

Oh shoot

My eggs

[cyan tusk]

Don’t sleep on the eggs this time

Like literally, there’s 2 sleepers among them lol

[hardy fog]

Just need some better stats

[mortal timber]

My only advice so far is to not sleep on ramos

Or he will put you to sleep

[chilly flame]

I hate getting the 1% ones

[mortal timber]

Hey still a difference bud

Better than getting grass gears but bug zone DMG 5%

But I think Ramos used sleep powder on me, 1 am, Imma gently go to sleep and listen to some like

I dunno, spa music

Buenas nachos

(yum nachos )

[cyan tusk]

I’m more keen on the stats

Been rolling 300+ feathers and that’s the result

[half orchid]

yeah the gear system is rough atm

i got extremely lucky with my fire rolls just from luck rather than effort [i actually pinned one and the best i got was 30/80/25 on a bandana with an extra healthy benefits tile but no 3rd passive]

[cyan tusk]

And pins are way too expensive atm

I already got the ones to secure fire accessories but cannot keep up for all hse

[half orchid]

oh wait, i forgot, i actually used 2 pins because i thought 1 pin=lock a skill and passive for 1 piece of gear

nope

i'm not going to buy any more until they revamp the system

[cyan tusk]

Nope 1 pin -> 1 theme skill

[half orchid]

yeah...

[cyan tusk]

I’ll be trying to roll with f2P feathers from training areas when I’m done with events

[half orchid]

yeah that's my go-to stamina dump now

although i'm finally starting to run out of drinks

[cyan tusk]

At least is kinda useful

[cyan tusk]

Don’t see this happening soon for me

They keep pushing coin pull events and I keep getting shafted so I get all the rewards

[half orchid]

i had a big big stash for a long time

i'm a little low on theme orbs too

i guess this is dena's master plan with the gear

all to inch us closer to buying that stamina bundle

[cyan tusk]

How do I gift you my 16K theme orbs?

[half orchid]

damn

i still have a lot of pairs to fully kit with the theme skills

i wish i had 16k

still have many 4* to promote too

wish i could trade bronze powerups for literally anything

[cyan tusk]

And I do not buy the stamina bundle as well as the bp bundle

Only the orbs and the yellow candy coin ones

[half orchid]

i buy the bp bundle because it helps me collect coins quicker

[cyan tusk]

Yeah me too

[half orchid]

for a short while we had a very good thing going and i could actually make progress with candying units between the bp bundle and the yellow coin bundle

and then they added field and sprint coins

[cyan tusk]

That’s a nice pov for the bp bundle actually but I have a decent stack of candies left so imma stick with the 2 bundles for now

[half orchid]

yeah it's only worth it in that regard i think, if youre a meta player who really wants to candy stuff

i burn through candies pretty quickly, especially the strikes which i'll throw at dumb stuff

wish we'd get full candies from events or rallies again but that's never happening

[cyan tusk]

I’m settling down to keep stuff to 1/5 and candy if needed on the moment, like I have all the new released unit of this month at 1/5 except umbreon 2/5 and I’m totally fine with that by now

[crude iron]

assuming we get a kantrio select freebie in january again, is SS Leaf high value for grass HSE theoretically?

[cyan tusk]

For grass hse of course

[crude iron]

cause its either i pick her or red

dunno how good leaf is at 1/5

cause now that i have medal, i prob wont be candying specifically for HSE

[cyan tusk]

1/5 red is completely outclassed by 5/5 freebie silver

[crude iron]

if i pick red itd be just cause charizard X is kinda cool

[cyan tusk]

1/5 SSLeaf has much more utility

[crude iron]

i have better fire dps in droves basically

need to update my grass roster rq cause got 2/5 dawn now

and 3/5 shauna

admittedly 4 candies for fire HSE was prob overkill investment wise but it was fun at least, and both investments will help with gauntlets

[hardy fog]

I love charizard lol. But the expansion was so sad that it’s just not worth pulling if you don’t already got 😂

[mortal timber]

Morning

[forest ferry]

I am coping for a great horizontal expansion

Give a full dps multiplier , not sync thinker

[mortal timber]

Let him think

[cyan tusk]

Let him charge under sun

Or apply rebuff

[crude iron]

If ssleaf select does happen for ny I might just use her as a pseudo sprint unit for this lol

Cause that just sounds like a fun way to use adrenaline2 units. Give them adrenaline1 lucky and pretend they are the sprint role

Might even be practical depending on what sorta params the stages have tbh

Either way kinda hoping one of them is simple like apply status condition. Since grass has plenty of status appliers

[forest ferry]

She's only pressing sync when she's somehow gets buffs

Which is only possible with vallow or NCblue

And she'll run CS2 if thats the case

So no sprint memes

[cyan tusk]

It’s lame bp Barry can raise crit only if opp is para

[crude iron]

It’d prob be in a team where the dps lacks a nuke entirely if I do it, mine would only be 1/5 and I don’t have any limited grass other than lodge Gloria to my name atm

[forest ferry]

BP Barry suk anyways

I thought his defensive buffs are for team before grass HS announcement

[cyan tusk]

He’s a tank per se with synthesis mpr and that’s it

[sturdy glen]

wait what?

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-27058877

[cyan tusk]

Yes, defense and spdef buff are only for him. Crit defense and sp atk buff is for the team

And crit when opp is para for the team as well

Additional team Ppe via grid

[forest ferry]

yea and I'd rather run rosa over him

Since she's 3/5 for me

She's way bulkier than him

[sullen pier]

B-but Synthesis

[forest ferry]

Gigadrain after 2 syncs is synthesis

[shy flower]

Run both

[sullen pier]

No ❤️

[cyan tusk]

If you can’t buff your defenses
Debuff your opponent

[chilly flame]

You think BP Barry is gonna useful?

[forest ferry]

He'll be
For poor people

NCblue/vallow, Lblue, Shauna, dawn, bulu is already 5 tanks afterall

[chilly flame]

I can already see myself getting pissed at Shauna

Spiky Shield not getting MPR

So I gotta reset

I can see the whole scenario

[forest ferry]

she's already better than BP surge in electric HS and I was coping with him

So I totally welcome the upgrade

[cunning shore]

How dare you

[main pulsar]

Kek

[cyan tusk]

Btw there have been high points clears with double ex supp so don’t sleep on that

[chilly flame]

Yea I remember doing that vs Marlon

Cerena with Adaman EX and Elio EX

[cyan tusk]

I had Cerena with 6ex SwimMisty and 6ex Elio

[hollow prism]

There were a few times i thought that would be really good on Fire HS until i realized we have no supports

[cyan tusk]

And also ppl got similar score in Archie with 6ex Hilbert

[chilly flame]

Lana my behated

Genuinely the worst stage for me, to this day

[cyan tusk]

Also I think en had a high points clear on chili with 6ex Tina and 6ex Kiawe

[chilly flame]

Worse than Volkner and flint

[sturdy glen]

*No heals my behated

[forest ferry]

surge was ez to deal with tho

[sturdy glen]

[cyan tusk]

Bc his worst atk was right after sync

And he could also miss it

[chilly flame]

The only annoying thing about surge was swift

[main pulsar]

No heals is cringe

Also yah I think I did double sup too for water

I’m not very high tho

Ah

I didn’t ex either of them

Lmfao

[mortal timber]

Empoleon my beloved for water, absolute rocketship of a nuker

77th thanks to him

[chilly flame]

@mortal timber you going hard vs grass?

[mortal timber]

without victor sc sonia sc rosa mix red

hmm a bit difficult hahah

i think from now on i just get rewards and dip

it's joever for me

[hardy fog]

Lies bro. You will not be able to help yourself 😂

[sturdy glen]

Funny that my peak increases every time
…but only always more people don’t have the stuff to compete
Waiting for bicio to retire so I can be the best in my country

[mortal timber]

still ahead of you buddy

doctor david

[sturdy glen]

For now
I’m missing only mallow and victor rn

[mortal timber]

you better don't disappoint me

cuz i cannot go far, imma just 180k from now onwards

signs of my f2p account starting to show

[sturdy glen]

I’ll not 🔥

[cyan tusk]

I’m not retiring any time soon

[sturdy glen]

I have some doubt if I’ll be able to bring Rosa to 3/5
Especially if next month’s pairs are tech MF

Other than that, I have to hope that red will go to 3/5

[sturdy glen]

Dammit

[cyan tusk]

we’re the same age so I’ll retire when you retire

[mortal timber]

[sturdy glen]

Maybe on the psychic edition I’ll get my fair match
…if I manage to get Lear

[cyan tusk]

I’ll leave you the spot when fairy hse comes so you can shine with your 5/5 penny

[onyx crystal]

how many people have shaymin

twice she's been featured during like Uber tier units schedule

[shy flower]

I got her to 5/5 on her debut

[oak fulcrum]

I picked her up off something recently and got a second copy from mix but still missing the crazy multipliers for her, I have her 150 and used her maybe twice?

[cyan tusk]

Got her 1st via half ticket of paid banner
The rest was dd

[sturdy glen]

[chilly flame]

Same 🤝

[shy flower]

I'm only missing Adaman My streak of missing exactly one crucial pair continues

[sullen kestrel]

I have 2 limited grass units hopefully the HSE banner is victor and ss acerola tho

[hollow prism]

i’m still hoping Acerola gets missed because I have her

[sullen kestrel]

Those 2 r the only grass units I want, adaman im not sure and maybe lodge is just tempting me

[main pulsar]

I actually got her first time around

[hardy fog]

Def psychic after grass 😂

[forest ferry]

rosa psychic dps or support?

Nate is clearly dps

And as if dragon need any more dps at this point

Psychic is pretty lacking on supports, only good one for Hs is cbede and maybe ssdawn

[hardy fog]

Rosa prob support right

[chilly kayak]

you could... you know just wait until the whole datamine is out instead of speculating

[forest ferry]

Official Twitter only has info on nate

[hardy fog]

But but but speculation is part of the fun 😂

[forest ferry]

Watch it be dragon HS next

And triple dps comp will rise supreme

[hardy fog]

Dragon I'll def be getting my 180k and chillin

[forest ferry]

Rosa is support with sprint Rolex

Guess psychic hs it is

Sycamore also grass support
Totally not related to HS

[cyan tusk]

There’s also alola rerun with SSAcerola

[hardy fog]

Ayyy yooo

I'm going broke this month

[sullen pier]

Can anyone do a summary of Xmas Sycamore's kit?

Being a support makes me tempted to pull for him

[cyan tusk]

Supp with potions

I have not seen the full kit yet

[sullen pier]

I see, thats still useful

[sturdy glen]

support
Sigh… unzip wallet

[hardy fog]

@cunning shore your top 30 dream is still alive

[forest ferry]

NCrosa pretty much guaranteed for me

[cyan tusk]

In terms of overall utility Viola has bug wish and she’s field btw

[forest ferry]

So psychic hs not that annoying anymore

[hardy fog]

Lussamine already rerun before right? So no hope 🥹

[forest ferry]

Don't need luSSa anyways

Psychic has lot of big hitters

It's a support walled typing like fire

You only got sabrina, mespirit as workable options

[hardy fog]

Which big hitters are you referring to 😂

[forest ferry]

Deoxys, Olympia, Lear , sslana

That roster is skill issue

You did the same thing I did with fire

[hardy fog]

Buwhaha well I actually wanted to pull deoxys from mix

[forest ferry]

Velio+sslana gonna be so busted

My psychic roster has 3/5 Lear, lana , anni may and 1/5 Velio so dpswise it's not as lacking

Support tho, I don't have any options

So NCrosa is very much welcome

[sullen pier]

I dont really care about her

[cyan tusk]

Raises team defendes and speed with tm, crit with dire hit all +, lowers rebuff with first razor leaf (and also raises team rebuff), has group grass guard

They literally made him for grass hse

[forest ferry]

Poor man's adaman

[sturdy glen]

OK WHERE DID I PUT MY BANK ACCOUNT CODE

[sullen pier]

unzipping wallet

[hardy fog]

Bicio secretly works in Dena and gets commission

[forest ferry]

Hmmm
Rosa base kit doesn't look great

She's pretty offensive but defense is only from sing and potion

Sycamore looks more tempting

OK rosa grid has team defenses

Sycamore is Uber for grass HS

   Raises the user’s Grass Type Rebuff by 1 rank the first time it enters a battle each battle.```

In his grid

He has grass guard as well

So 2 stage self rebuff + team grass guard + 2 grass guard

[cyan tusk]

Oh and he has potions

[sullen pier]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-meme-black-guy-cries-sad-man-thank-god-for-my-reefer-hood-news-gif-24902056

[cyan tusk]

Next to the master fair gems bundle,sir

[cyan tusk]

At least I’d get royalties or free gems

Spoiler: no

[sturdy glen]

Thanks

[hardy fog]

Yooo why yall hard selling Sycall-my-morrney

[crude iron]

I just realized. Does ss ace being reran this month mean like 90% ish chance victor solo banner for hse, 10% ish chance duo with ss leaf ( think would be higher value as a solo banner ngl, since majority of people have already probs )

Cause it’s just those three for grass pf yeah

[hardy fog]

You might be right

[forest ferry]

Ssleaf wants dupes to carry

So being dual banner is more beneficial

Unless you have 5/5 ssleaf

[hardy fog]

Man they really pulled out all the big guns for grass huh. You didn't get this much to pull for all other 3

[forest ferry]

There's noway I am rolling sycamore over NCrosa

NCrosa is also guaranteed if you don't clown

[hardy fog]

That's what you say now..

[forest ferry]

Other than new unit

I have all rate up units

And new units aren't as interesting other than viola

So it's ez NCrosa