High Score

[forest ferry]

how

[sturdy glen]

But if you take too much time
The mid will still kill you

[forest ferry]

Yea but why would you do 1000 str with SSTred

700 str with him

he clears stage comfortably

That ssmay goes to kiawe stage
You can use NCleaf for flannery

[crimson python]

nc leaf isnt the greatest dps

unless u mean the rebuff

[forest ferry]

She has supp Rolex and rebuff

So it helps the lack of nuke

Bring 2nd dps with her

[crimson python]

no suppt ex role

i was thinking bringing tina there

[forest ferry]

Flannery can't be nuked

So supp ex better

[crimson python]

tina

ill maybe bring cinderace in flannery battle too

yea my fire roster is shiat

[forest ferry]

Well
You still have to shove ssmay vs kiawe anyways since she's your only 3/5 tech that can carry stage herself

better than mine

Flint has flying weak mid

you can use Gloria for flint

[crimson python]

should i bring silver in flannery

i think it would work

[forest ferry]

I plan smth like this

[crimson python]

why flannery vs flannery lol

[forest ferry]

wish Blaine wasn't rock weak
Else I'd bring him for Flannery

[crimson python]

her ember is

[forest ferry]

Physical tank

[crimson python]

bruh your fire roster is good

what are u talking about

[forest ferry]

No Tina

No NCleaf

sshilda is 1/5

[crimson python]

u have ss hilda

leon

[forest ferry]

[crimson python]

etc

ss red

ss morty

i dont have those 4

[true sparrow]

Looks like Silver is usable even without syncing in sun

[crimson python]

i wish theres more fire support

[forest ferry]

ye
Can go unga bunga with his sync

[crimson python]

the fire support roster is just shit

[forest ferry]

poison has more supports than fire

Workable supports*

[mortal timber]

I do think for the sync reduction stuff having SS Morty with constant heals gonna be very important

And to heal he needs sun that counters sand

Unless we really go for the syncro healing path

Gonna study the pastebin better in the next days

[onyx crystal]

@chilly flame or another mod can you unpin the Electric top scores, and the archived electric pins.

[ocean warren]

done

[cunning shore]

Health remaining... Bruh.

[onyx crystal]

I'll be taking feedback for the grading sheet.

I still need to look at the actual encounters tho

[cunning shore]

[onyx crystal]

Flannery's gimmick of neutering syncs... is uh quite uh... a thing. Guess that won't be a high point stage.

[fair drift]

the hell is flannery's stage gimmick

rip nukers

[mortal timber]

My career is over

Huge fan of nukes

It's joever

[crude iron]

This makes me a bit annoyed that it ends before her banner will start.

[true sparrow]

as it should

[crude iron]

And if the bingo is timegated at all no chance of flareon for hs last day

[sturdy glen]

Timegated?

[crude iron]

Like if it needs say a thousand stamina or needs goals we can’t do day one

They’ve done it before with other bingos

[sturdy glen]

Ah ok

[cyan tusk]

And debuffs too actually

[mortal timber]

Fr

[mortal timber]

This + an alone 4* lodge calem

And the parameters

[small dome]

looking solid

[mortal timber]

It is, consider May is gonna get candied soon

Ok so

Kiawe, no strikers allowed

And we can set up sun

I do feel like ss May here

[small dome]

right, seems like the tips suggest debuffing the side mons’ sp. def so they won’t have their attacks boosted by smart cookie

[mortal timber]

Oh that’s a good catch

Nvm

It’s lobster time

🦞

Anni N

[small dome]

ofc

[mortal timber]

Do I go N Blaine for sun and a supp like torchic?

So I can respect burn, mc and debuff too

[small dome]

maybe not torchic, right sidemon has hyper beam

[mortal timber]

Nooo my poor torchic

[small dome]

unless anni n can take em out but kiawe has other scary moves

[mortal timber]

I wanna pray that thing goes down via some blue flares

[small dome]

no kidding lol

[mortal timber]

Incredible how management of supports are vital this time around lol

[small dome]

fire isn’t doing so hot in that department

[mortal timber]

Lemme calc when my nc leaf can get the supp role EX

[small dome]

yeah that might be needed

her attack and sp. atk debuffs would also make her tankier on top of the stat buffs from support ex role, but how necessary that is will depend on team composition

[mortal timber]

Yeah

[mortal timber]

So it ends the 22nd

So I might get that very late on the event, almost at the end

Or either in the middle

[small dome]

oof

might be best to wait then

[mortal timber]

But it should be enough hopefully for me to like go for some attempts

[small dome]

yeah get some practice in

[mortal timber]

I get 1 the 30th, so 14 supp cake coins

[small dome]

[mortal timber]

I think the 14th of November I am done

So very halfway

Considering I'll exchange also the tickets

[small dome]

sounds like a plan!

[mortal timber]

Ok solved that we assume from now on NC leaf has cake

Kiawe stage: Anni N Blaine support

Blaine has no parameters so uh

Leon it seems it is

[small dome]

sure

[mortal timber]

Who do I go with him now

[small dome]

definitely someone who can buff him faster

[mortal timber]

Very tempted to slot in a tech

Or another striker

Maybe Hilda

Cuz I saw chili requires some defense debuffs

SS may may be very good there

[small dome]

yeah and kiawe too

[mortal timber]

Correct

Flint we go with a supp that can't heal

Marley time?

[small dome]

mhm

she should be fast enough to where you won’t need to grid for team hit and heal anyway

*for animation buffering

[mortal timber]

Yeah

I am very scared to use NC leaf into smth very overkill but like

These parameters are very limiting

[small dome]

it’s a very hard choice

[mortal timber]

Blaine says focus on defenses down

Hmmmmhmmhmmhm

Do I smell NC leaf Leon

[small dome]

either blaine or kiawe yeah

you won’t risk boosting enemy fire damage and she can’t work with flannery’s reduced sync

[mortal timber]

I need to save some good dmg dealers for Flannery

Like there I am super sure to use SS Morty

What if I pull a funny

They have no AOE

I gotta ex ETHAN

And Serena 100%

Flannery moves are all ST till I kill mid

Ethan can dmg a bit also sides time by time

I do need a solid third

[small dome]

they might actually work lol

[mortal timber]

No sync nuke is my pain

Absolute pain

[small dome]

if only ss lysandre switched his sync to fire and hit their watee weakness

[mortal timber]

[small dome]

just b hydro pump them

[mortal timber]

I should consider Ronaldinho Soccer Gloria

Fighting weak iirc is Flannery right?

[crude iron]

I haven’t decided my other slots so far but I’m leaning toward this for my supports most likely. Think I prefer these three fire ones over torchic and prob will offtype the other two with these two mfs

[small dome]

ooh right, high jump kick would chunk a lot

[mortal timber]

Into fighting mode

And she just gets back so much health each hit

Ethan gets help by team sunbathe

And some potions

I think we got Flannery adeq

Ain't no way I am ex'ing Ethan

[small dome]

😂

[mortal timber]

but I will

[small dome]

runner would be proud

[mortal timber]

Bunnerino

[crude iron]

What y’all think of the support choices?

[mortal timber]

You sure you aren't going for Evelyn and Torchic

[crude iron]

Eve is in pasio1

[mortal timber]

My bad on that

[crude iron]

I don’t own Tina else she’d prob be on a team

[mortal timber]

Same here

Alrighty, it's very late here. Buddy adeq, tysm for the patience and everything
I'll continue next time, gn

[small dome]

sleep well

[crude iron]

Dunno how I should fill the other team slots yet

Unsure if some of this will be good or not but, drafted a couple units into some of the slots. Mc charmander and magby are filler till slots are figured out

My Fuecoco only 2passive so figured I’d just toss him in Eve team to fix it

Blaine prob gets silver…?

[hardy fog]

The goddess of gacha have once again spoken

[maiden canopy]

I'm extremely close to another tech candy and I have my cake support saved up, so I can potentially use them on C. Leaf if I want to

[hardy fog]

In similar position but going to wait to see what the pros do first lol

[paper mist]

Blaine: "Hah! Better have Leon!"

Flint too

[sullen pier]

4/5 SS Hilda has Accuracy buff for allies

[paper mist]

not just accuracy, but the weaknesses too

both have ground and flying weaknesses, which Leon can use, is what I mean

[stray dust]

Takes a HS for player to start using back leon

[sullen pier]

yes ik, just recommended another option

Challenger Gloria can self buff acc on grid iirc

[arctic quest]

ffs I hate evasion gimmicks

[paper mist]

Evelyn also has Team Pinpoint Entry 1 at 3/5 if one doesn't have SS Hilda / Leon / SS Red

[stray dust]

Good thing I don't care as much for HS anymore

Saw that flannery denies sync nuke hard

[paper mist]

just use DPS pair, I'm gonna use SSRed there since his sync is a Mega sync

[stray dust]

Good luck to those going for top 100

[paper mist]

not possible for me, as I lack sshilda/glorat/ssmay

prob won't try hard on this one

[stray dust]

I won't bother with more than 180k unless new medal happens which is extremely unlikely

Reset rng isn't my cup of tea

Did it on first HS truly a terrifying experience for a top 100

[paper mist]

one of Flint's sides being Psychic-weak is good for Lodge Calem

[mortal timber]

[paper mist]

ig this will be what I run unless I get Vilda or May, or Lucas from the Eevee ticket

[mortal timber]

I got to a funny conclusion for Flannery

I gotta ex Typhlosion

[haughty haven]

Chili stage need def debuff

[crude iron]

high chance of eevee ticket being timegated since its on last day of hse. youd need 800 stamina stored, and idk if the other missions will be possible day 1 since it relies on the eevee event stages and sounds like theres like 4 or more of those stages

[mortal timber]

And also that yeah

[crude iron]

so dont rely on vLucas if you arent going on banner

[paper mist]

I don't really plan to anyway. I'd rather have Lyra or Elio from it personally

[crude iron]

i personally want whoevers the one with jolteon, if i had to pick one. mostly cause its the weakest of the five types for me and i like all of them

[mortal timber]

In the Blaine team, make sure to put MC or rival fire unit for more multiplier

[paper mist]

I can give Flannery defense crush 2 and hope for the best

[paper mist]

I'd rather get a higher score from str than nerfing to accommodate theme skills

[mortal timber]

You are not nerfing, that's the neat part

Instead you can get more by just following that

[paper mist]

That would be Ethan (lmao), Hilda (no) and Bluecanine (who wants to on-type), so I don't think I will

[mortal timber]

There can be a place for Ethan

[paper mist]

would only consider Hilda for potions and thats it

[stray dust]

I'm just gonna steal high scoring team but lower the strength so I don't have to reset for 180k

[forest ferry]

Just run Hilda instead of Marley

Leon nuke is mediocre anyways

[paper mist]

meh, like I said I'm not gonna try too hard on this one

[mortal timber]

Fair then

[paper mist]

ik Leaf and N teams could carry me to 180k

[mortal timber]

Yeah just missed you didn't want to go all out

[cyan tusk]

Good morning/evening beautiful peeps

[haughty haven]

[paper mist]

sandstorm huh

[mortal timber]

Good morning bud

[stray dust]

Here comes more theory crafting

[mortal timber]

[cyan tusk]

Anni N -> Kiawe
Tina, Leon -> Flint
Whatever groudon you wanna offtype -> Blaine
If you wanna offtype with NCSerena -> Chili
Alt Gloria , SSMorty -> flannery

[mortal timber]

I was thinking Leon more on Blaine

Leon with some ss May shenanigans

Since he asks for def reduction too

Tho I get why flint considering he is physical

I think tho Marley there should be enough

Actually the no heals can be tricky, Leon on Flint makes total sense

[paper mist]

I'll have to readjust because SSRed is weak to Flannery's sync move

[cyan tusk]

Do we have a fire type syncro healer? That one can be good for flannery too

[worldly parcel]

Conditions:

1: 3* Min Rarity | All Pairs (Limited Included) | Type | All allies Recover HP‎

------------------------------

Evelyn & Entei
‎　⤷Team Fist Bump 3, Synchro Healing 1
Lucas & Flareon
‎　⤷Synchro Healing 1
Player & Torchic ( Support)
‎　⤷Synchro Healing 1
Sygna Suit Morty & Ho-Oh
‎　⤷Team Sunbathe 9
Tina & Flareon
‎　⤷Team Inflict and Heal 3

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[paper mist]

2 of those don't have EX, and 1 of those is Tech

[sullen pier]

Tina also has Team Sync Regen

[cyan tusk]

Uh Lucas

[ocean warren]

ye i just put flat heals here

[paper mist]

Morty at least has Potions, as does Kiawe

[ocean warren]

yeah

[paper mist]

Hilda if you're desperate

Flannery will be easy for those with Gloralt

[mortal timber]

https://tenor.com/view/ronaldinho-soccer-64-ronaldinho-soccer-game-gif-17098414

[cyan tusk]

Also bc she has great healing in fighting mode

[mortal timber]

Exactly

[cyan tusk]

First draft

[mortal timber]

Interesting

Mine is gonna be 1/5

So Imma just spam kicks left and right

[haughty haven]

Dont say that, Hilda is good

[paper mist]

I mean for Potions

[sturdy glen]

aren't we supposed to use max move asap?
i would focus on bounce tiles for the sides

[mortal timber]

Flint is gonna be an absolute real deal

[mortal timber]

No heals with an hp related parameter?

[graceful pike]

One down

[cyan tusk]

So glojo on flint and Leon on Blaine?

[sturdy glen]

glojo?

[cyan tusk]

Alt Gloria

Too many Alts

[sturdy glen]

im considering using ss red against flint
and alt gloria against flannery

[cyan tusk]

I’ll be going for SSMorty on flannery, one of the Hildas as main dps and Vkiawe as a debuffer

[sturdy glen]

but isnt kiawe a bit wasted since that he doesnt debuff defense?

[cyan tusk]

DC2

[sturdy glen]

fair

[cyan tusk]

And also Vkiawe goes for all points since ha has extended range for 3 hit instead of 1 and stockpiles debuffs for more points

Another good choice for flannery is 3/5 Evelyn bc sync moves are nerfed so it’s better to heal

[graceful pike]

he does?

unfortuous

i legit think

if you want to get the highest optimized run

you need that

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=0&v1=014900010501&s1=5&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=21010101&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFDhMUFRcYGhwfIg&v2=0

example:

[sturdy glen]

he debuffs spa and spdef at 1/5
atk and speed at 3/5

[sturdy glen]

yeah flannery is gonna get w/ever synchro heal or sync regen

[graceful pike]

i actually got her to 3/5 just for this H.S

worth

adding stuff ig

[outer whale]

@onyx crystal have we started the fire spreadsheet yet?

[sullen pier]

yup

[graceful pike]

can i

join to edit it

XD

evelyn is S tier

for flannery

and then torchic has synchro healing pog

[sullen pier]

you can ask Sages for permission, altho the final ranking is gone through experts iirc

[graceful pike]

what makes someone an expert XD

maybe

[outer whale]

so we can easily put all strikers for Kiawe as D tier because Rule unless one of them has Impervious

[graceful pike]

idk

it's a weird stuff

[graceful pike]

impervious does nothing

[outer whale]

oh wait right, it's stats themselves, I was thinking it was stat drops. I just woke up

[sullen pier]

yeah

the parameter directly affects the base stats

[outer whale]

ok, so all of them are D tier

[sullen pier]

or F

[outer whale]

Kiawe seems to rely on spdef, so anyone who can lower that would be great. coughcough Anni N

[graceful pike]

F

[graceful pike]

yup

give him dc2 even

i don't have that

fml

[outer whale]

Not DC2. he has Smart cookie.

you need to lower his Spdef, or you're going to not survive sync.

and he raises his spdef by 3 after syncing

[graceful pike]

he has innate mg9

give anni N dc2 to score higher

[outer whale]

let me go in order for right now'

Oh gdi, Flint is gonna be hell

[sullen pier]

No, Scholar Sync is boosting sync if the user has at least +1 spdef

[outer whale]

Ok, so Tina from what i'm seeing is:
BACAB

Reasoning: in her sync grid, she does have Fire Guard, Tesm sync regen, and some decent healing utlity under sun. Flannery, and Kiawe don't have fire moves so it will be difficult for her to survive, but aside from that, she DOES have Charm to lower attack as well so she isn't necessarily bad for them either, but she may not survive as well.

also has endurance in passive so she will be able to tank some good hits

[graceful pike]

really?

her being one of the few fire supports

already makes her a tier by default

[outer whale]

actually, move Tina's battle for Flint to C because she's weak to Earthquake

[graceful pike]

XD

[outer whale]

just because she's one of the few Fire support doesn't mean she's good for every battle.

[graceful pike]

i mean

better to let her tank

than

you know

[sullen pier]

Im curious about Torchic's ranking. It seems it will struggle to tank on high strength

[graceful pike]

well

good for flannery

bc synchro healing

mid for everything

[outer whale]

Lets go in order of list first.

makes it easier

[maiden canopy]

I'm guessing SS Morty will be S for all the fights

[outer whale]

SSMorty is next. Immediately thinking S tier for Flannery, C tier for Flint

I would also lower him to B/A- tier in Blaine's battle because Sunny Day is going to be a double edged sword for sync

Chili is can be A tier since they don't have too many fire moves to deal with, but one flare blitz will be a GG

SBCAS I would say

[hybrid nova]

Any suggestions? Really want to try getting Master Rank this Fire HS event

[outer whale]

We're currently working on the spreadsheet so it's a bit tricky right now to suggest on helping atm.

[hybrid nova]

Fair enough

[outer whale]

one thing I will say is that Kiawe won't help on that team, he'd be more useful for Chili

chili gets sync multipliers on his defense, Shadow bone will counter that.

[hybrid nova]

I can use team 29 for Chili if that’s what you’re suggesting

[outer whale]

are you going to use flare blitz as your DPS?

[candid cobalt]

Just my two cents but I think Red might need a tankier support given that he is quite frail

[outer whale]

^^^

[candid cobalt]

Unfortunately tanky Fire support are pretty much just limited to SS Morty

[hybrid nova]

Yeah, the issue is that Red wants attack and sp. attack buffs
And there are a lack of attack buffing supports for his multiplier

[candid cobalt]

Yeahh

[hybrid nova]

I could swap Fuecoco and SS Morty

[candid cobalt]

I really do not think fire was ever suited for a HS event but DeNA does DeNA things anyways

[candid cobalt]

That could def work

[outer whale]

right now, it's definitely rough to figure out who would be even useful for Flint considering We can't heal

[hybrid nova]

Evelyn would probably be the best option due to having defence buffs

[outer whale]

Evelyn: AABAA if i'm being honest????

Evelyn can burn Flint and he's actually more susceptible to it than every other battle. You will have to get rid of Regen all, but it's still some use for her to burn Mid.

the defense buffs will also help with damage overall too.... so she may be the best option for Flint tbh

So weird flex but
Kiawe: AACSA
Has Endurance, Critical Healing, and Dashing team, REALLY good for Chili, and may have some damage support for Kiawe's battle too since Ghost weak interestingly enough.

[arctic quest]

Wdym? 6 supports, 2 of em limited sounds like normal to me

[candid cobalt]

The problem is that most of the fire support are pretty frail

Most being everyone except SS Morty

[arctic quest]

Oh i was joking

[candid cobalt]

Oh 😭

[arctic quest]

I definitely agree, the likes of Kiawe and MC Torchic are incredibly frail

[candid cobalt]

Welp at least I don't have to try for any more HS events (not like I could even if I wanted to)

The next and last time I'll try is for Grass

[outer whale]

this Fire HSE is going to be rough for F2P

[arctic quest]

yea grass should be better I feel

[arctic quest]

Anyone who doesn't have at least either Tina or SS Morty just straight up lacks a support for all 5 stages

[candid cobalt]

I am extremely curious to see how Selene does offtype (She's not gonna do well)

[arctic quest]

And the remaining ones aren't the best either

[outer whale]

Current tier rn/

I'm being more leinent on ranking for support considering.... we have 6

[candid cobalt]

Yeah...

[outer whale]

We can also add Fuecoco, Ninetales, and eggFlareon at least as A tier for Flannery since sun moment

[candid cobalt]

I would say to go double dps but in higher strengths, it's not gonna work out well

[outer whale]

this might be a weird flex but
MCTorchic:
BBBBA

Torchic is a weird case since he doesn't really have any faults or weakness in terms of which battle is needed. although, Flannery's Rule will be rough to deal sync damage. Torchic has Synchro healing 1 so that allows him to heal at least along with Regen.

problem is torchic.... really doesn't do much

I could argue torchic a tier for Flint since hostile nviornment 5 for burn chance....

[hybrid nova]

So the best outcome would be
SS Morty, Tina, Evelyn, Kiawe, ??? Or ???, Tina, Evelyn, Kiawe, SS Morty
??? Being a 5th unit for tanking

[outer whale]

Uh oh, Marley's weak to ground

[hybrid nova]

But Marley can provide burn, speed buffs, and team sharp entry

[outer whale]

Doesn't mean much when she's kind of rough to tank moves to begin with

[hybrid nova]

True

[outer whale]

OOOOH.

She has group Fire Guard

Marley: BADBB tbh.

[graceful pike]

just realize

something

gloria is tech

lmfao

always thought she'd be strike

[outer whale]

Glora will be S tier for Flannery and A for Kiawe

actually. Glora is amazing for Flint

gdi

[candid cobalt]

Gloria is great for a few stages

[sullen pier]

why S for Flannery? Being ontype right?

[outer whale]

yea

Hi Jump Kick, and Bounce

both are SE for Flannery/Flint, and a sidemon for Kiawe

[candid cobalt]

Kiawe dps against Kiawe surely lmao

[graceful pike]

somehow

i beleive

hilda is pretty okay

because pot bot

one of the parameters is about how much health you got left after all

also

[outer whale]

Lets focus on techs now

[graceful pike]

marley can combo with silver

[candid cobalt]

Can't determine if Leon is better against Blaine or Flint

[graceful pike]

she can heal under sun after all

[outer whale]

Support rankings right now @onyx crystal

can already see NCLeaf just as a unit
AAAAS

can debuff, can deal unga damage, and can set sun

[graceful pike]

wait

what order is this

[royal tiger]

what's TINA's BACAB? wut?

[graceful pike]

VS KIAWE VS BLAINE VS FLINT VS CHILI VS FLANNERY?

[outer whale]

yes

[graceful pike]

hmmm alright

still

leaf

she misses out on her sync damage

[sullen pier]

its the same as the one in grading sheet

[graceful pike]

that's the problem

[outer whale]

look at the spreadsheet

[graceful pike]

no power play shinnenigans

[outer whale]

i'm trying to rate it via this

[sullen pier]

[graceful pike]

evenlyn should be S tier vs flannery

3/5 has synchro healing

which is optimal when sync move damage is reduced that much

[outer whale]

Who will have 3/5 Evelyn tho

[royal tiger]

me

o.o

[graceful pike]

me

also

when reviewing a unti

[outer whale]

[graceful pike]

it should be at their max potential

[royal tiger]

i've had her for a while.

[outer whale]

Fixed it

[graceful pike]

i mean

you can always do torchic healing too if you want

but then you'd need someone to buff defenses

or just

cope hard with it's innate toughen up and stuff lmfao

[candid cobalt]

Of which only 3 whole units buff defense

[outer whale]

I'm more than happy for others to correct me, it's just difficult to account for EVERYTHING in like 5 mins at a time

[graceful pike]

attack debuffs have to make up for the difference

so

anni N

leaf

and stuff

also

give them 150

i am still speedrunning lodge for that

by the time the fire hs event comes around

i would have 3 more at 150

at least

if not 4

so planning to raise the supports

kiawe, marley and all that

i mean

i plan to give marley the 150 medal of honor a while ago but this event just pushes her priority up big time lmfao

[candid cobalt]

If only fire had more defensive supports

[graceful pike]

yeah...

also

[outer whale]

BRUH
GLORA IS JUST SSSSS+ across the board

[graceful pike]

how many debuffs is too much

[graceful pike]

i mean it's Dena's way of saying pull our latest units*

[graceful pike]

yup

[outer whale]

have Gloria? GG

[graceful pike]

meanwhile

[outer whale]

free win

[graceful pike]

low kick

XDDDDD

don't cope hard pls

also

[outer whale]

OH WAIT.....

[graceful pike]

max moves

should be used quickly

[outer whale]

GLORIA IS WEAK TO GROUND

[graceful pike]

because it gives stat buffs

[outer whale]

PAAIIINNNN

[sullen pier]

cry about it

[arctic quest]

gakon do you have glora?

[candid cobalt]

Wtf why does that Emboar have 3 Earthquakes

[outer whale]

oof. Kiawenine is gonna be rough

[sullen pier]

skipped her because of pitying Leon

[arctic quest]

Rest in peace

[candid cobalt]

Flint is going to be painful

As all No Healing stages have been

[sullen pier]

luckily i dont have to try hard this HS lol

[candid cobalt]

And also with the amount of hard hitting moves they have

Geez

[outer whale]

So imma just say what everyone is thinking. ehem

Flint: FFFFF

[maiden canopy]

I wonder what top position I'll get with my roster

I don't have other important units like Glorialt and Anni N

[candid cobalt]

I'm honestly gonna be real surprised if I see people with 400k+ points

I have zero idea how it's possible

[graceful pike]

what does

variety kiawe do

[maiden canopy]

Wonder if 500k will be possible

[sullen pier]

a good debuffer and nuker

[outer whale]

problem. He's weak to rock

[graceful pike]

he's a good debuffer alright

[sullen pier]

he has WoW which is good for Flint

[outer whale]

Flannery is oops all rock

[graceful pike]

and uhh

let's see

[graceful pike]

rip red bozo

and

leonzard?

[candid cobalt]

Flannery is just a big fuck you to a lot of units

[graceful pike]

[outer whale]

Most of these battles are physical based

so spatk drops will be lowkey useless

[maiden canopy]

Where will Mayziken be used?

[graceful pike]

i mean

fire

burn

lower atk

there's that for a reason

[candid cobalt]

Not like the enemies care lmao

[graceful pike]

maybe cope

[outer whale]

everyone has lessen burn 10 except Flint

[candid cobalt]

Insert Marnie doing 300+ damage with Seed Bomb and Crunch even at -6 atk

[outer whale]

ABBCD

Chili has rock slide on sides, and Flannery is just death because sync moves nerfed

[graceful pike]

for who?

[outer whale]

VKiawe

[graceful pike]

ahhhh

good thing i don't have him

[outer whale]

List rn.

[candid cobalt]

Mayziken time

[outer whale]

not yet

[candid cobalt]

Aw

[outer whale]

Lodge Irida first

[candid cobalt]

Welp definitely D for Flannery

[outer whale]

can we put Flint as just
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY

[candid cobalt]

Flint and Flannery are both painful

Each HS becomes more painful that the last istg

[graceful pike]

lodge irida has flinch

and reliable burn

[graceful pike]

F

[outer whale]

So i just want to let you know. we do have a 7th tank unit, but i'll get to them soon.

[graceful pike]

imagine if he has

uhhhhhhhhhh

ex

would not help at all even lmfao

[candid cobalt]

Is it Flannery

[graceful pike]

flannery fortuous dodge luck

what meta are we smoking right now

[candid cobalt]

No idea 😭

[graceful pike]

[candid cobalt]

This is what we've come to

[graceful pike]

dodge all the hits

get all the stats

[outer whale]

Lodge Irida:
gonna be honest with you.....

AAAAA

[sullen pier]

the 8th tank is caked NC Leaf

[graceful pike]

knew it

[graceful pike]

role cake for extra stats let's go

[candid cobalt]

A against Flannery?

[outer whale]

She has flinch and burn, and weak to water

[candid cobalt]

Ah true

So more of a supporty role instead of doing damage

[outer whale]

Flinch can be downright a lifesaver in this

[graceful pike]

guys

[candid cobalt]

Cos all her damage comes from her nuke

[graceful pike]

flint is actually the best tank

with evasion +1, nobody can touch him

trust i used him dodge tank against uxie or azelf one time

[outer whale]

ok, anyone have VLucas?

[graceful pike]

rip

idk how he can be strong

like

take v kris

[outer whale]

he's weak to Rock

[candid cobalt]

Rock

[graceful pike]

v kris has perma e terrain

for example

but

damn

[maiden canopy]

Lucas has Synchro Healing and reapply sun infinitely

[graceful pike]

being weak to rock

XDDD

[graceful pike]

oh yeah

he's gonna be A to S in a lot of situations

[outer whale]

So... I don't see anything bad with VLucas?

AAACD tbh

he's just a damage dealer, with sun..... although, might move Blaine down since Sun can be a double edged sword

C because Rock slide on Chili
D because Flannery moment

[candid cobalt]

Oh thank goodness Blaine doesn't have fire spin

[outer whale]

MAYZIKEN TIME

[maiden canopy]

Tech Fuecoco doesn't have Sunny Day right?

[outer whale]

Support

Honestly, eggmons in general are kind of useless unless they can debuff or set sun.

[maiden canopy]

Oh well, I'm still gonna use tech Ninetales anyways

[outer whale]

only good ones would be support fuecoco/TechTales/EggFlareon

LOW SWEEP DPS

[candid cobalt]

Low Sweep dps real!!

[sullen pier]

the Eevee event starts a day before the last day of HS

good luck hatching Flareon

[outer whale]

[maiden canopy]

1/8 chance

[outer whale]

still have to count it for that one person using Eggflareon for whatever reason

[maiden canopy]

1/2 chance if you have all of the incubators unlocked

[outer whale]

Ok, so...... SSMay would be SSSSS across the board....... if she's 5/5

Staggering at 5/5

[maiden canopy]

Actually, the chances to get 1 Flareon is 1/8^8 or 1/16777216 chance

[outer whale]

yea, SSMay would be fine as SSSSS

[maiden canopy]

Well, none of them do flying moves, so yeah...

[outer whale]

Anni N

SSSSS Honestly?

weak to dragon

[maiden canopy]

Also, is this the first time we got Power Gem even if it's enemy-only?

Not counting Roxanne's sync move name

[outer whale]

Hmmm

Serena....

She will be good, but AOE sleep is actually kind of bad here

[maiden canopy]

She has Fire Spin for chip damage at least

[sullen pier]

A for Flannery imo, his sync is not easy to ignore

[outer whale]

Spdef drops and AOE Damage DPS is really good tho.

[sullen pier]

yeah but his nuke

[outer whale]

fair

[candid cobalt]

His nuke is his main thing

[arctic quest]

yeah Nuke > Extend Range DPS

[outer whale]

OH NO......

Serena is weak to ground

[candid cobalt]

Since Flannery requires dps SS Hilda will probs be really good against her

[outer whale]

Serena's looking to be AAACD.

WAIT IT'S GROUND

NOT ROCK

AADAA

Sleep is carrying her on this, and she may not be the actual DPS of the group.

but she can't survive Flint

Flannery, the 7th Support tank

Here's a hot take...
BCACA

Sides have a lot of special moves while flannery is more Physically tanky

Blaine: BCCDD

Weak to Rock, doesn't do much aside from trap damage

Tech list ranking @onyx crystal

going to get breakfast, then try and do strikers. but it should already be known that all Kiawe Battles will be F for them

[graceful pike]

yeah

she hasj that flinch

but eh, for poor old me, 3/5 is enough

also

[royal tiger]

hum.

Lodge Irida can flinch? interesting

[outer whale]

Fire fang + aggravation

[royal tiger]

hum

i dont have VLucas 😦

[outer whale]

Currently eating right now, and honestly, this HSE doesn't really have much importance towards physical or special damage so.... most strikers outside of kiawe's battle will be good. Barring their weakness ofc

[royal tiger]

okay i think i've got this for my dps/damage dealer

now just need to slap in my supports hmm

[outer whale]

Do be careful with Gloria there

She is weak to earthquake despite having bounce

[royal tiger]

oh

meh

Oh right. SS Red exists.

[candid cobalt]

Both SS Morty and NC Leaf against Flannery?

[outer whale]

Sun in this can be a bit tricky since blaine and chili can abuse your sun

And since supports are kind of yikes here. Itxs more risky

[royal tiger]

Flint though? is fine if i do Sun sheningans there?

[outer whale]

Flint has flare blitz, fire punch and fire sync move

Your funeral

[royal tiger]

curses

[outer whale]

Gonna be honest, i'm gonna use Flannery for Flint

She can tank physical moves well

[forest ferry]

You can bring sun for chili

Since iirc he only has 1 fire move

[royal tiger]

what about Blaine?

[outer whale]

Chili is more mixed, just be careful of flare blitz and sync move

[forest ferry]

So its easier to fish

[royal tiger]

fire moves everywhere?

[outer whale]

Yep

[royal tiger]

HMM

i wanna slot SS Red, but its either Blaine or Flint

[outer whale]

Only kiawe, chili, and Flannery aren't fire heavy

[royal tiger]

since they do evasions and stuff.

[signal needle]

oh god time to play again

plan*

[maiden canopy]

Surprised people still don't call Gloria as "Gloria (Alt. 2)"

[outer whale]

She's called Glora

[signal needle]

i dont have SS Red or Thief Gloria or SS May so im probably taking it easy this time

[royal tiger]

there we go.

[maiden canopy]

I have some of the major fire units, so I think I'm prolly good for top 500 again?

[forest ferry]

Just put your tech unit vs kiawe and then plan the rest

Lot of F2P fire dps are strikers

[maiden canopy]

What form is Gloria using?

[outer whale]

Oh wait, i have Leon

Leon has ground and flying

[signal needle]

Leon Gloria and a support vs Flint

Oh right shet

[royal tiger]

i'm still thinking about it. brb

[signal needle]

I only hv Leon so idk where he shud go then

[outer whale]

Flint 100%

Nuke him asap.

Have Evelyn support for defense and i guess Lodge Irida for flinch

[signal needle]

Synchro healers should go to Flannery

like torchic

[royal tiger]

which ones have synchro healers?

oh

[signal needle]

or 3/5 evelyn

[outer whale]

Evelyn, and Torchic

[signal needle]

or Lucas but hes good on Vs Kiawe

[royal tiger]

hum

i think something like this.

i can probably do 400 strength for Flannery though heh

[forest ferry]

why synchro healers vs Flannery?

[royal tiger]

and just go all in with the fire rebuff

[forest ferry]

Just use silver or Vlucas vs her

They set sun on sync

So you can dps faster

torchic doesn't even have ex

[signal needle]

mm

[royal tiger]

now then

[signal needle]

but u waste the sync vs Flannery

[royal tiger]

no idea what teams i'm slapping on Flint/Chili though.

[forest ferry]

The stage demands sun

You run torchic, eggmon and dps

[signal needle]

Silver, Serena and Marley could probably do well against either blaine or chili

[forest ferry]

It's slow as hell

[outer whale]

ok, time to finish the striker list

[signal needle]

while ss morty, torchic and whatever vs Flannery

[outer whale]

For a refresher, this is the CURRENT rankings.

[chilly flame]

This stage is literally screaming “hey use Leon”

[outer whale]

Or Glora

[mortal timber]

Not that Blaine says otherwise

[royal tiger]

okay i tihnk this is it.

[mortal timber]

Glora seems more leaning towards Flannery imo

[royal tiger]

Blue/Arcanine has Swift so i can just spam that rofl.

SS Red also works there

since Piercing Gaze

[chilly flame]

Yea but hurricane vs earthquake damage spread

[forest ferry]

Does Flannery has sand on entry

[mortal timber]

Hmm

[forest ferry]

Or is it just on her sync?

[royal tiger]

ooof

[maiden canopy]

So she reapplies sand on sync everytime

[royal tiger]

yeah

[chilly flame]

That stage is so evil

[royal tiger]

Hmmm i'm thinking of using Fuecoco there but depends on how difficult it is at 200/400

[chilly flame]

Your sync does no damage

[outer whale]

Here's a thought.

[maiden canopy]

It's to encourage using Vucas

[royal tiger]

yeah

[outer whale]

✨ Silver ✨

[chilly flame]

You’re inclined to change the weather but if you change it to Sun then you still give her more damage

[outer whale]

no U her Sandtsorm

[maiden canopy]

Synchro Healing and changes weather to sun

[royal tiger]

Silver also wants to use it

[chilly flame]

Oh wait

None of them have fire moves

Asides from sync

[royal tiger]

Silver time?

HMMM

[chilly flame]

Oh wait x2

[forest ferry]

Sand kicker is just entry

[chilly flame]

Her sync is rock

[royal tiger]

wait

[maiden canopy]

Flannery's sync is rock

[forest ferry]

Dust kicker is for sync

There's no dust kicker

[maiden canopy]

So Vucas is the true MVP here

[forest ferry]

So you only have to wipe sand once

[royal tiger]

is Silver weak to Rock?

[maiden canopy]

Water

[royal tiger]

okay

can definitely run Silver here

[maiden canopy]

Surprised nether Ho-Oh units are weak to rock

[royal tiger]

and SS Morty can tank i guess

[maiden canopy]

Usually, most of the main weakness is the 4x weakness

[royal tiger]

okay yeah. this is it.

woohoo

i dont think i'll have to give NC Leaf her Support Cake ❤️

[outer whale]

SSHilda
FAAAA

can't really see a downside for her

[royal tiger]

yeah

but her gauge regen is nice

so

[outer whale]

FCCBA for Silver

Sunny proc on sync is decent

[royal tiger]

mmhmm yeah. that's good enough

with NC Leaf dropping opponent stats

SS Morty healing everyone

[chilly flame]

I wonder which one she’ll be the best in tho

[royal tiger]

who NC Leaf?

[chilly flame]

Yea

[royal tiger]

NC leaf would be great with Kiawe and Chilli and Flannery

[outer whale]

Hilda is...... awkward

she has an amazing sync.... but I don't feel comfortable with Flare Blitz DPS

[chilly flame]

Ok I did some thinking

[outer whale]

FBBBD?

[chilly flame]

I think NC Leaf is gonna be best vs Flannery

Cuz you wanna just go hard with dps

[royal tiger]

yeah

[chilly flame]

Fire rebuff and defense drops

[royal tiger]

you only sync with her just for the rebuff

yeah

[outer whale]

@chilly flame correct

[royal tiger]

o/

[candid cobalt]

Huh

[outer whale]

I have all supports and Techs done, doing Strikers rn

just waiting on Sages to actually be available to add it to the spreadsheet

OOF. Lodge Calem is weak to ground

[royal tiger]

tbh

i think i'm waiting for it now

[chilly flame]

I can’t imagine Calem or Serena being that great here

[royal tiger]

my teams are ready xd

[chilly flame]

Especially Serena cuz of resilience

[outer whale]

Lodge Calem: FBDBD

[chilly flame]

B feels a little high vs Blaine

[outer whale]

Fair, C

It's FCDCD

Lodge Calem focuses on Super effective.....

there's no super effective stages that he could survive in

Bluecanine is weak to ground

[candid cobalt]

And he's not gonna do great offtype either

[outer whale]

So I lowered Anni N from SSSSA to SSSAA

Reason
Blue Flare is 4 gauge in a -2 gauge rule

He can only have so much MGA before he slows down

[candid cobalt]

You could put him with Marley

Tho not sure how long Marley's gonna survive for

[outer whale]

yep.

Bluecanine btw:
FCFDF

Hyper Beam 4 gauge and has mutipliers for super effective.....

Leon: FSSBA

SSRed: FAADF

He's weak to rock. Rock slide and Flannery demolish him.

Ethan: FBFFF Oof.

Weak to rock and needs full HP to deal max damage,

Flint: Lol.

@onyx crystal Striker List completed

[forest ferry]

Why SSred D vs chili?

[outer whale]

Move Gauge and weak to rock slide

[forest ferry]

Rock moves are after mid dies

He is fast enuff lol

+6 self spd

I am considering to run this

[maiden canopy]

Doesn't EX help with that?

[outer whale]

Rock slide will still one shot him due to how frail he is

especially since you're gonna have to deal with Post-sync

[sturdy glen]

are sides alive after all his syncs spam?
or weak enough to be killed with a mvoe

[forest ferry]

That rock slide is after mid dies

[outer whale]

i know that.

[forest ferry]

Yea that too

[outer whale]

I will push him to C, but I still wouldn't recommend

[maiden canopy]

Also, if lucky, Propulsion 1 can trigger

[outer whale]

especially since he has speed but his problem is that he would have your allies either do nothing, or use one bar moves

[hybrid nova]

My current plan

Oh, wait, not my most up to date team list

[outer whale]

Here's the full list for you @onyx crystal Sorry for pinging so much. (Outdated)

[hybrid nova]

Here we go

[hybrid nova]

Looks great 🙂

[maiden canopy]

Are you usually the one making the tier list for the HS events?

[true sparrow]

[maiden canopy]

Lucas bad for Flannery even if he has Synchro Healing?

[true sparrow]

Lucas is a straight S+ for Flannery

alongside SS Morty

[mortal timber]

Why am I seeing NC leaf on a stage where you cannot nuke

[outer whale]

I don't have VLucas, and I usually have other help in regards to this, but literally no one helped me rank this

[chilly flame]

Raw DPS

[hybrid nova]

Here’s the thing
V Lucas banner: 21st
Fire High Score end date: 22nd

[chilly flame]

Boutta show y’all Torchic’s true potential

[true sparrow]

that has nothing to do with how good he is

[outer whale]

Sun

also Falre Blitz DPS is still good

[mortal timber]

I would use her on chili

Personally

[chilly flame]

She’s great on every stage lmao

[mortal timber]

I dunno, I think on Flannery you could use other stuff than her

Seems like a waste

Sacrificing a huge part of her being the nuke for a stage like that

[outer whale]

My problem with NCLeaf is that she sets sun, which is also her best part.

Blaine, and Flint can abuse that alongside you.

[maiden canopy]

She also has Drought Alert

[outer whale]

and since supports are crap for fire types, it's hard to really abuse sun when your supports die.... from sun

you can USE fire guard if the support has it, but that just negates sun damage

[mortal timber]

Boh I dunno, my real mission is to make Torchic shine

It's fully invested, I am ready

[outer whale]

Torchic is great for every stage, but doesn't shine in one of them specifically

[maiden canopy]

Unfortunately, I don't have 2 striker candies, so I can't 3/5 SS Hilda

[mortal timber]

Wonderful

All I needed to know

[outer whale]

If something is B, it doesn't mean they're bad, it just means they are a decent option to use.

[maiden canopy]

Will Torchic be used for Flannery?

[outer whale]

C to F is when i'm kind of

[mortal timber]

No idea but it's forced in the challenge since no Tina here

[outer whale]

wait wtf, i don't remember putting VLucas as D tier.

he has sun and healing

OH. IT'S BECAUSE S AND D ARE CLOSE TOGETHER

SO I MEANT S BUT TYPED D WITHOUT REALIZING

Current list rn @onyx crystal

[mortal timber]

LMFAO SS MAY S EVERYWHERE

What a unit

[outer whale]

Flinch at 5/5, Defense Crush, can nuke. yea...

[mortal timber]

Deserved

[outer whale]

Cinderace built different tho

[mortal timber]

Guess what in fact lmfao, I gotta decide who to 3/5 between cinder and mayziken

[outer whale]

Mayziken needs it more

[mortal timber]

I'll go may

Yeah

Lmao and me who wanted to meme with Ethan Vs Flannery lol

[outer whale]

Ethan weak to rock moment

[mortal timber]

FUDGE I FORGOT

😂

[outer whale]

anyone who is D or F is usually because they are weak to the battle

[mortal timber]

I was like " dude, eruption time?" And then you hit me with this

Thanks for the reality check

[stray dust]

Flint : why am I still here just to suffer

[maiden canopy]

Did someone make a meme of playable Flint vs. CSMM Flint?

[graceful pike]

WAIT WHAT SUPPORT FUECOCO HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

well i hope you know what you are doing

[forest ferry]

Red needs sun and he's better than Blaine so

[graceful pike]

also

[forest ferry]

Supp fuecoco buffs spl atk so I can sync with red first and then press his TM 2x for haymaker

Cant run this grid if I don't bring eggmon

Tho I am contemplating if I should pick sharp entry or +2 spl atk

[graceful pike]

hmmm

still

you'd technically press twice

also

hmm

fuecoco

i guess you can go for faster crit?

[forest ferry]

Doesn't matter
Higher priority is bigger nuke

[graceful pike]

the first nuke won't

be that impactful anyways

[forest ferry]

Pressing 2x is better than losing out haymaker

[graceful pike]

no like

what i meant was

you're gonna use my destiny AFTER

anyways

so

[forest ferry]

The first nuke will still have +4 spl atk

[graceful pike]

it's not gonna matter at all lmfao

[forest ferry]

It will

[graceful pike]

you're playing HS

[forest ferry]

For my minmax comps

[graceful pike]

so

you do you but

typically you are going for

idk

4, 5 nukes?

the first one won't matter

LMFAOOOO
wait

nita over at the lg part

triple flinch

lmfaooooooo

[forest ferry]

The team has no sync Accel or disruption

At best it's 4 nukes incl first sync

Oh wait
Fuecoco only gives +2 spl atk

Oh well
Still better than Blaine