High Score

[shut garden]

Is 180k possible with onlu 10 electric paids

Pairs

[long oyster]

Yes

[forest ferry]

Depends on your offtype units

Since they'll be the carry

[long oyster]

I mean it's only 180k

[forest ferry]

If you aren't debuffing stats, you need atleast 400 str for 36k pts

So its very offtype unit situational

[long oyster]

2 electric units and setting the fights at 250STR should be good

[forest ferry]

My SSmorty run vs volkner only gave 38k pts and I had 450 str

[shut garden]

My only offtype units than can carry a team on their own are marnie and red

[forest ferry]

The conditions for scores are ass this time

[shut garden]

Cred

[long oyster]

Oh

[shut garden]

so 200 for 18k?

[forest ferry]

You need 36k per run

For 180k pts

[shut garden]

Oh

[forest ferry]

Which means 350-450 str

Depending on your para and debuff accessibility

[shut garden]

I dont think i can do that

[forest ferry]

Well you have NCred

[shut garden]

Only debuffers i have are emloga and celebi

[forest ferry]

He can carry if he's invested

[shut garden]

1/5

[long oyster]

Still 100% freeze

[forest ferry]

1/5 already can do 400+ str

[long oyster]

You can manage something

[shut garden]

Seriously?

[ornate turret]

got eggmons? use them not great but still

[forest ferry]

I was doing 400 str with zygarde

And zygarde is shit compared to NCred

[shut garden]

These are what i did

[forest ferry]

Where is your BP clemont and Lodge elesa?

[shut garden]

I dont have normal elesa and i didnt grab bp clem

Should i?

[forest ferry]

Well if you want more points
Yes

[ornate turret]

also not many ex support

[shut garden]

Alr

[forest ferry]

Also BP soph

[shut garden]

Yea i dont have many ex supports

[ornate turret]

you need them too for more bulk and dmg if going for more str

[shut garden]

I have eevee sonia brendan kris and i think thats it

[shut garden]

I should also get him?

[forest ferry]

I did mention him, so yes

[shut garden]

And sabrina

[forest ferry]

Only sskris,SsBrendan and Sonia are good ones

Eevee isn't gonna carry 400 str

[shut garden]

For the other ones tjay dont have that ill probably just use marnie and red

[forest ferry]

If you are using sskris, use her vs volkner or clemont
Since those are the special dmg focus stages

Same for SsBrendan

[shut garden]

Oh alr thanks

[main pulsar]

What’s the grid

For red

[shut garden]

Just his whole rhing

[main pulsar]

Oh no I’m asking for something else

I need sstred grid for bpclem soph sstred team

[shut garden]

Is soph or clemont better (1/5) bc i want to have an extra bp ticket j in case i need to get smt

Oh lol oops mb

[forest ferry]

Gonna be full nuke with kekwalk and SS3

You gonna need 3/5 minimum on both BP units

[shut garden]

I dont have the 4 star candies for that

Nor the 4 star powerups

[forest ferry]

Prioritize BP clemont then

[shut garden]

Wait i might actually

Oh i do

Barely

[shut garden]

Shouldnt i use marnie for volker tho since hes dark weak

[main pulsar]

Do I need to ditch to the max

[shut garden]

The marnie one was like the only stage where i did 300

Nvm i did 200

I retried it w 300 and just died

[forest ferry]

You only need to run 1 offtype

[shut garden]

?

[forest ferry]

Marnie should do 300+ fine

Just bring a proper special focus support

Like lodge elesa

[forest ferry]

You can run max if you are saving it till like 2nd sync or smth

Ditching max means you pick another sync tile

[shut garden]

Dont have lodge elesa or normal elesa sadlt

I have 2 alts but not her

[forest ferry]

Ah

Then move Marnie to some other stage where you have workable tank

And run offtype tanks for those 2 stages and crank up the strength

[main pulsar]

Squeeze

[shut garden]

I now know i can beat the dtage w 320 str itll just take a bit of effort

[main pulsar]

Elek has overtaken bicio!

[desert elm]

You have a recording on Volkner?

[cunning shore]

Yeah I tried swapping some teams around and it won't work, gonna sit at my score for the foreseeable future lol

This me done for the day @onyx crystal
Incase you thought me saying I will improve will change anything today lol

[tiny ore]

ex hau just isn't cutting it vs marnie

gonna try to make clemont work

the dmg just isn't there

for hau

I mean raichu hau btw

not koko

[cunning shore]

Initially I had him and 1/5 NY Volkner do chip damage.
But I managed to free normal Volkner and managed to get through just barely

Yeah, Koko too good you wouldn't complain at all lol

[tiny ore]

What support?

[cunning shore]

New Blue

[tiny ore]

nope don't have him

all my gems went to gios merry band of crooks

[cunning shore]

Might want someone heavier than Hau

[haughty haven]

NC Blue make Hau can solo dmg at 6xx STR

[cunning shore]

Worth it

[haughty haven]

Even 700 STR if lucky

||Which i dont have rn ||

[tiny ore]

I like gio way more than kantrio 2.0

[cunning shore]

I mean this new one sounds busted as heck

But I don't have gems no more

[tiny ore]

idk i just think they look way more interesting

[cunning shore]

Literally broke lol

[tiny ore]

Not meta defining but they're neat

[cunning shore]

Gio kit is amazing ngl

[tiny ore]

lol I don't have him yet

[haughty haven]

But man, 0,4 %

[tiny ore]

somehow went 2/3 of a pity w/o gio

[haughty haven]

[cunning shore]

[tiny ore]

Rip idk if ill get him ever but i'm otherwise satisfied

[cunning shore]

Hope you get him next pull

[tiny ore]

Hopefully

[cunning shore]

Find a better hitter than Hau because he sucks without heavy supports

[tiny ore]

I might have to go off type

[cunning shore]

You just trying to 180k?

[tiny ore]

trying to go as high as possible w/ my particular roster

ss steven it is!

hau and clemont are my best special options period

plus my support options are kinda limited

[haughty haven]

After 2 High Score, i know Variety pair is very neat for some stage. But sadly i dont like V pair (Ball Guy is a only i have and Proton from ticket)

[rich mango]

Total Score | 357,732 | -> 375228 | -> 381132

Lt. Surge | 420 STR | -> 500 STR | -> 400 STR (changed to filler team, can push higher STR)
Volkner | 350 STR | -> 390 STR | -> 390 STR
Elesa | 455 STR | -> 455 STR | -> 455 STR * Head Start 1 lucky skill on Volkner
Clemont | 620 STR | -> 650 STR | -> 650 STR * Head Start 1 lucky skill on C.Elesa and BP Clemont
Marnie | 720 STR | -> 825 STR | -> 1000 STR (changed team to NC Blue + SS Hau + SS Elesa)

@onyx crystal

[cunning shore]

I haven't tried ittt but I would try Clemont lol atleast he can nuke middle better 🙈

[cunning shore]

What's the game plan for that Volkner clear?

[tiny ore]

Idk what team to use him on tbh

already used red

no ash

[cunning shore]

If you're lacking Special unit for Marnie he probably will do better than Hau

I would like to assume so

[rich mango]

buff until first sync with H. Jasmine, spam power trip with Marnie and sync with Elesa. it's really slow startup, but low total attacks (more points)

[haughty haven]

🤝

[tiny ore]

Unfortunately tl elesas physical tanking leaves smth to be desired

[cunning shore]

Marnie doesn't get max stats yeah?

Like attack or speed etc

[tiny ore]

i'm thinking of off typing and throwing ss steven at it

bc ss steven always makes things better

somehow

[haughty haven]

1/5 Marnie doesn't care Speed

[cunning shore]

I mean Hjasmine only buffs defensively

[rich mango]

two aura wheels and 2 TMs I think. Jasmine +SE works for Power Trip on dark/hangry? mode

[haughty haven]

And she can max atk after 2 Aura Wheel

[cunning shore]

Ooo

Okay

[haughty haven]

I know because i use her too

[cunning shore]

I only picked marnie from the free ticket thingie, don't fully know how to use her kekw

[haughty haven]

With L Elesa and H Jasmine

[atomic hamlet]

just pushed 550 by the skin of my teeth

[tiny ore]

You guys think it's a good idea to go for a off type support vs marnie?

[cunning shore]

SSTeven my favorite unit in the game. All forms.

[haughty haven]

Physical buff Sp is good there

[tiny ore]

Maybe ss dawn

[cunning shore]

If it will let you survive enough in high STR, yeah

[haughty haven]

Her only Special Move is Snarl

[tiny ore]

either its ss dawn or ss steven to off type

and build a team around that

options options...

[cunning shore]

Imma try to do that Volkner team tomorrow. If I manage to do it, I can possibly free up Ash... which will help me out a lot.

[cunning shore]

Steven

[haughty haven]

I just actually see your Score and that Volkner Stage is

ow

[cunning shore]

Yeah I am not having a good time ain't I

[tiny ore]

wait no ss dawn is dark weak

[haughty haven]

it even worst than my score with only 1/5 N is a dmg dealer

[tiny ore]

crunch HURTS

ugh ss morty maybe?

[cunning shore]

Steven is dark weak too

No?

[tiny ore]

Yeah but he's not tanking

[cunning shore]

Listen, don't look at it too much 🙈😂😂

RNG isn't with me this time around

[tiny ore]

ssa cynthia then

[onyx crystal]

[onyx crystal]

[haughty haven]

Well RNG will bless you soon

Electric is not my type so i cant help much

[cunning shore]

Already helped me out the most my friend

[round stone]

HCYoink (Volkner - BPSurge, Elesa, 1/5 Marnie)

HCYoink

HCYoink (Lt Surge - SSTRed, Surge, Sophocles)

[cunning shore]

This one is inhumane

[round stone]

HCYoink (Clemont - TLElesa, Ash, 1/5 Nemona)

HCYoink.(scrapped)

[chilly kayak]

Inb4 a certain bot mutes you for spam

[round stone]

HCYoink (scrapped)

[chilly kayak]

Mostly because it's the exact same message over and over

[round stone]

HCYoink (ELesa - Sonia, 1/5 N, Sophocles)

HCYoink.(Lt Surge - SSTRed, BPClemont, SSElesa) (Clemont - BPSurge, Elesa, MCchu)

HCYoink (Clemont - TLElesa, Ash, MCchu)

HCYoink

HCYoink (Volkner - BPClemont, Elesa, 1/5 Marnie)

[main pulsar]

Blue

Please come home

I need you

[hardy fog]

Yozza. Nice clear on this one. Any summary for game plan you can share? Who is your tank here.

[azure idol]

@atomic hamlet I need tips on Marnie team, I can't crack 900, not enough damage to clear before sync 2

I must be doing something wrong, do you happen to have a video?

[azure idol]

Damn this 550 higher than my 590, sync accel hack does it I guess

[tiny ore]

any ideas for marnie w/ clemont?

no ash, zapdos, koko or ampharos

[sturdy glen]

hau, crit buffer, w/e striker egg

[tiny ore]

what.

Id rather just off type at that point

[sturdy glen]

higher effort for the same result?

[azure idol]

Dual rat 600 str hack

[main pulsar]

Yeah but you have an actual team

( translation we probably used all our good supports)

Cuz ash can borderline solo a stage

[azure idol]

Even with Ash's damage it went down to last move before boss sync 2

[main pulsar]

[sturdy glen]

he asked for marnie

[azure idol]

I used potionchu to para sides, I guess it can be improved by using power reserve 14 potionchu but it will need extreme para luck

[azure idol]

I was not responding to Citirne I was just showing off my team

[cyan tusk]

Welcome to hs high score clears

[atomic hamlet]

sorry I was increasing my volkner clear by 123 points lol

[atomic rain]

pain

[atomic hamlet]

i'm gonna post a video soon, just gonna rerun a surge clear and I'm forcing myself to stop and upload lol

[atomic hamlet]

^

[azure idol]

Fuck volkner I'm not gonna a touch that stage again

[atomic hamlet]

that stage is so bullshit lmao

[azure idol]

Like 90% runs tanked by a late stage miss

The HS Latias

[atomic hamlet]

post sync gets he4

[cyan tusk]

Why not paralysis procs from discharge

[azure idol]

Yeah that too

[cyan tusk]

With random crits

[azure idol]

Thanks thanks

[cyan tusk]

Marnie missing the SEUN power trip in hangry mode

[atomic hamlet]

this is the true evil in our world

[main pulsar]

Lmfao

Keep it up marnie

[azure idol]

Marnie pulling a Colress

[main pulsar]

Do you guys think it’s worth to move nemona to a different team here?

Cuz her clear was rough but for N I can’t do 300

🤔

[azure idol]

Clemont stage doesn't have many options...

[main pulsar]

Yeah I figured

I just tried to benchmark all the stages at 300 str

And N’s team is the only one that failed

[azure idol]

Maybe you can use OG surge in some other stage and rotate another support here

[main pulsar]

Who would I want to rotate?

Cuz then I’d have to try to make og surge even possible

Then try to make whoever I rotate possible

[cyan tusk]

What move level is your marnie ?

[atomic hamlet]

3/5

no numbing blow

[cyan tusk]

Ok Nuke option the best

Numbing blow is trash, dishartening shock is the best

[atomic hamlet]

oh wait

[main pulsar]

What is numbing blow

[atomic hamlet]

i mixed up the two

that lol

[cyan tusk]

And staggering 2 because I love hurting myself

[azure idol]

Iirc someone did 70k+ with Red Surge Soph, but it's EX Surge

[main pulsar]

That

Sounds so painful

🫠

[azure idol]

Yeah idk how that works lol

[main pulsar]

I guess I can try?

[cyan tusk]

This smells eva clear with tank surge

[main pulsar]

Like that genuinely sounds like a perfect rng run

[azure idol]

Evasion tank?

[main pulsar]

Which like

[sturdy glen]

wdym it seems only logical for high scores

[main pulsar]

I can’t even get sselesa to dodge thunder most of the time

[cyan tusk]

It’s not that big of a difference bc you’re not using power trip for some turns

It kinda makes up for it

[main pulsar]

Did you go for sides first?

When did mc die

Oh wait this is clemont not marnie

I do be blind mb

Hm

[candid cobalt]

Sheesh

What're the strats for that

[cyan tusk]

I might guess mg2 elesa, potionchu keeping her alive, unyielding proc (?), and dps/nuking with ash

[candid cobalt]

Interesting

I'll have to try that out later

[main pulsar]

Is clemont sync really weak compared to marnie sync?

When I tried marnie at 400 a sync killed mc

[cyan tusk]

Don’t know which is ash grid but there’s the pinch hitter node with -3 sync cd when in a pinch that If timed correctly can be a life saver

[cyan tusk]

Make sure your elesa gets +6 teams spdef

That’s like the base to start the fight: no mpr on x sp def all -> reset

[azure idol]

Team idea was from @forest ferry Grids: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=026400002500&s0=3&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=13010602&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFDA8XGh8iKCstLi8&v1=900000002500&s1=5&l1=140&r1=5&p1=0&a1=18046402&t1=44&g1=AAECAwQFERITFhkbHyEnKSwt&v2=010600059500&s2=5&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=24010401&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFBgcICQsOEBESGhseICMlKCs

Reset for xspdef mp mpr, and no enemy spatk buff. Para sides with mcpika and focus fire center.

[main pulsar]

I cheated

Guess what the strat was

[cunning shore]

Evasion tank

Well low accuracy tanking

Lol

[azure idol]

Mud slap stonk

[main pulsar]

There was no tanking there was just marnie missed 3 moves consecutively

Which is wild

[cunning shore]

That's evasion tanking lol

[main pulsar]

Never thought that would happen

[cyan tusk]

Go get that 150 level so you can cheat even more

[main pulsar]

Okay I shall grind harder

[cunning shore]

N is so weak I cry I won't be able to increase my score tomorrow lmao

[blazing birch]

people discovers evasion tanking

[cyan tusk]

Btw I did not have a slot to slap Clemont but the overall debuffs he can provide are really useful to increase overall scores

[main pulsar]

well see

i was thinking

hau was only there to misso ne move

[cunning shore]

I am willing to bet 3/5 N still wouldn't get the job done

[main pulsar]

so i figured clemont coudl do something more useful

+100 strength

i lack the alola buff but

think this is alot better

also i think my ash grid is suboptimal

Feedback pls

like i think trainer demption was really good but

could be missing something here

[cunning shore]

It wasn't even EX Surge iirc

[cunning shore]

Fully nuke take off redemption and take two sync nodes*

[azure idol]

Take pinch push and/or power reserve

[main pulsar]

newdes?

but also trainer redemption isnt good even though it saves 2 turns (kind of ish)?

[cunning shore]

You want to nuke the hell outta the stage before they nuke you, you get ohko after their syncs anyways

[main pulsar]

yeah the shiedl blcoks a hit dont it

i can spell

[cunning shore]

Same

My spelling is funnier though

when every team I check has 3+/5 N on same stage

[candid cobalt]

Aight ty

Ooh interesting

No Trainer Sync Redemption

[main pulsar]

How come tho

The extra move isn’t worth?

[hardy fog]

Yo that's uber tier clear lol

[chilly flame]

Surge: 550
Volkner: 450
Elesa: 400
Clemont: 360
Marnie: 900

@onyx crystal

Rank 21 rn

[candid cobalt]

I thought Trainer Sync Redemption would be useful cos it'd allow Ash to tank sync and stuff

And it also refills gauges which is nice

[azure idol]

He can tank first sync without it, and he can't tank second sync with it

[main pulsar]

@cyan tusk where can i get mind games?

its not in any 3* ciijue

cookie

[azure idol]

Only bronze deluxe cookie

[cunning shore]

@azure idol This one, No EX Surge 🥴🥴🥴

[main pulsar]

oh what

thats

horrifyingly specific

ugh

i dont have alot of those

[cunning shore]

1* star gauntlet cookie has like every skill in the game good luck

[main pulsar]

are they grindable iun gauntlets?

[cunning shore]

Yeah, only gauntlets

[azure idol]

This looks torture yay

[main pulsar]

i may have to grind them if this is the only place to get these parrticular skills

mmm

unfortunate

[cunning shore]

Next gauntlet, do auto teams and farm lots

[main pulsar]

breh i got defense crush

would be nice if i got that at a different time

on not clemont

[cunning shore]

The day they give us lucky skills preset is the day my mind will be in constant peace about these chances

[main pulsar]

i wish

[candid cobalt]

How many syncs is Clemont able to pull off in this clear?

[azure idol]

You mean ash?

[main pulsar]

yeah clemont isnt getting a sync

[cunning shore]

Enemy clemont is allowed 1 before he wipes you with his 2nd

[azure idol]

Clemont syncs once

[candid cobalt]

Aight

[main pulsar]

oh im talking about a different thing nevermind

as i am upgrading clemont i was thinking about him

[candid cobalt]

I was just asking cos in my 450 clear Clemont gets to sync once

[main pulsar]

god the chances for mind games is awful

FINALLY

COMPLAINING IS GOOD

[cunning shore]

[candid cobalt]

Clemont nuke is pretty decent tbh

[cunning shore]

Complaining won't make my N 3/5

[main pulsar]

im using ash

so

kek

[candid cobalt]

Not like 3/5 N will do much sadly

[cunning shore]

He will for me

But I refuse to use candies this time around

[main pulsar]

i dont want to dcandy him either

[cunning shore]

Last time, I wanted to upgrade the units i candied anyways. I do Like N but no way he's gonna outshine any of the rest

[main pulsar]

scuse me what

sync guard reduces damage right

[candid cobalt]

Yes

[main pulsar]

why did marnie do the same amount of damage as with it and without it

lasdjfioj

[candid cobalt]

Tf

[main pulsar]

ok so marnie sync

she made my ash 20% hp

[candid cobalt]

Mhm

[main pulsar]

but when i dont have sync guard

it also made it 20% hp

[candid cobalt]

Tf

[main pulsar]

yeah me too

[cunning shore]

What's your team?

[candid cobalt]

Yeah Marnie's sync has got me perplexed multiple times

[main pulsar]

clemont bpsurge ash

[azure idol]

Maybe you got natual crit

[main pulsar]

i guess but i didnt hear that noise

[cunning shore]

Prob, i was gonna say maybe you forgot to buff yourself

[main pulsar]

🤔

[candid cobalt]

Like Marnie's sync did more damage to my units when they were paralysed

[main pulsar]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[candid cobalt]

But when they weren't paralysed it did less damage

[main pulsar]

IF THATS THE CASE IT MAKES SENSE

[candid cobalt]

But Sages said that Marnie doesn't have any sync multipliers

So idfk

[main pulsar]

well

its consistent

[cunning shore]

Mf has para multipliers?!

[main pulsar]

like it would make sense

cuz if u say that

my team got parad this time

because i usually get lucky

[candid cobalt]

OH

[main pulsar]

and she gets paralyzed

[main pulsar]

we kek hard

[candid cobalt]

I forgor she had innate multipliers

We should probably pin that

[main pulsar]

@onyx crystal misinformation we kek

hm i realize now that doesnt help at all

nuuu marnie hit everything

i cri

ah hell is a nice place

ill set up my pillow and bed

[candid cobalt]

Dw Marnie is always able to hit everything

Even at -6 acc

[main pulsar]

yeah shes minus 6

so

i need her to

either not hit para

get parad

or surge to somehow be alive

thats alot of conditions

[candid cobalt]

You'll have a higher chance of her getting paralysed than her missing a move from accuracy debuffs

[main pulsar]

marnie stop hitting clemont reee

she missed oen time at least i guess

[waxen thorn]

Btw you guys mud slap or electric web first?

[main pulsar]

yeah marnie sync move doin 1800 damage

le epic

[candid cobalt]

Mud Slap

[main pulsar]

you need to pray for the accuracy drop to matter

[candid cobalt]

Even tho it does absolutely nothing but it's always a nice fallback

Just in case she misses

We pray for her to miss

[main pulsar]

alolachu just fucked me

first time this happened

TIL

[onyx crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-sleep-sleeping-slumber-who-gif-20243460

[main pulsar]

okay so

marnie will do a shitton more damge

when paralyzed

its just a important thing to note when doign this

[candid cobalt]

We should probably remind people that Marnie has an innate paralyse multiplier on sync

[main pulsar]

that you have to either dodge it, get full para, or lithe

and yes i realize now misformation we kek doesnt explain anything

[onyx crystal]

Footage?

[main pulsar]

uh

[candid cobalt]

Does this suffice

[main pulsar]

like i can do it now

[onyx crystal]

No :3

[main pulsar]

lemme just

can i do one of those

before after shots?

[onyx crystal]

Npcs don’t have 240 power syncs

[candid cobalt]

I would but I just did 500 str on Marnie with a Lithe NC Blue

[main pulsar]

can i

[candid cobalt]

Kirby would you be willing to be hit in the face by a paralyse sync

[main pulsar]

like before

800 damage

after

FUCKING ANNIHILATED

does that work?

[cunning shore]

Do NPCs even have innate multipliers?

In general

[candid cobalt]

I swear they do if it's following their base pair

[main pulsar]

cuz i can do it

ill use lucario

[onyx crystal]

I mean just a screenshot would suffice

[main pulsar]

so its easier

just a screenshot doesnt prove a multipleir does it?

[candid cobalt]

It should

[main pulsar]

i guess i can just screenshot the damage with para

gimme a sec

[candid cobalt]

Just show how much damage it does with sync

[cunning shore]

Ye

[onyx crystal]

Well if you have any recordings saved of your failed runs you could easily grab a screen from those

[main pulsar]

i dont have the sanity to record my runs

:3

(and the phone space becomes sad)

(and the battery noticably drains faster)

but anyway im gonna do it rn

just waiting for her to bean me in the face

man using ssac makes me sad

LET ME USE HER GOD DAMNIT

[onyx crystal]

I guess it makes sense, if they just copy pasted the move.

[main pulsar]

awooga

@onyx crystal good nough?

[candid cobalt]

Ok now we gotta get a ss of when they're not paralysed

[main pulsar]

okeeey

lemme just pull out friend mend leaf

wait i have team solar immunity

nevermind

ill do that

[onyx crystal]

1300 is a lot with max defenses

[main pulsar]

yaya

[onyx crystal]

When they had ncSerena in CS, she also had her same sync move, multiplier and all.

[main pulsar]

it should take about 40 more secs

for this to load

[onyx crystal]

My prior statement was about regular passive multipliers.

[cunning shore]

So npcs do have innate multipliers at times

[main pulsar]

here ya go

a bit scuffed

but i only pressed leer once

and ash lives

[onyx crystal]

Usually NPC versions of characters have Electric Sync Impact, instead of the player version. But this HS has Hangry Wild Charge.

[main pulsar]

in other words

suffering

you CANNOT get paralyzed

yay

[onyx crystal]

In CS, the sync move has 86 power btw, instead of 240.

[main pulsar]

wait what

[candid cobalt]

That would mean Clemont's sync would also do more damage if our speed were to be lowered, right?

[main pulsar]

thats wild

also

arent literally all of these techs

[cunning shore]

If it's the same name (not electric impact) yes

[main pulsar]

they prolly all have multipliers if they have the same name

its just noticeable for marnie because i got diededed

[cunning shore]

Turns out me flinching her before thunderwave was beneficial to me lol.

[onyx crystal]

Yes. Thankfully only 1x Electroweb is used.

[main pulsar]

extremely

yeah most of them dont have ways to increase their damage

[candid cobalt]

Phew

[lunar loom]

@onyx crystal my update for today when you have the opportunity to update the pins

[main pulsar]

i want to be like you when i grow up

[cunning shore]

see everyone has 3/5 N
Imma cry

[candid cobalt]

Wait whoa how were you able to clear with N

[main pulsar]

hjasmine is the real winner

[lunar loom]

i'm doing everything i can to upgrade power without burning any more candies

[candid cobalt]

My N was struggling against CElesa

[onyx crystal]

I need 5/5 N to do more than Elesa sync poke fair

[main pulsar]

im pretty srue celesa

is the reason thats winning

[lunar loom]

moving things up to lvl 150 and giving hau mind games

[main pulsar]

anyway

[candid cobalt]

Interesting

[main pulsar]

back to grinding

[cunning shore]

So my teams are
Marnie Elessa5/5 Hjasmine for Volkner stage

N 2/5, Sonia, BPsurge for Elesa stage

Should I swap N and Elesa around?

Feels like N needs extra omphhhh to help me out

[main pulsar]

candy it

[cunning shore]

I shall sink with my ship

[onyx crystal]

[candid cobalt]

N would greatly appreciate eterrain

[cunning shore]

What's the STRs?

[main pulsar]

marnie please

beome blind

[onyx crystal]

Well I used Elesa for debuffs and a pop of E-terrain near the end there.

[cunning shore]

No terrain remaining in my roster

[main pulsar]

oh this is why marnie misses in taht other fight

[onyx crystal]

N by himself is a little low though.

[cunning shore]

Unfortunately no CElesa either

[candid cobalt]

Then N probably isn't the best choice against CElesa

BP Soph would do more damage than him

[cunning shore]

Throw my last few hundred gems at that Celesa banner lets go

[main pulsar]

im still trying to get ncblue

urgh

[onyx crystal]

It's bait.

[cunning shore]

I already dead from the 3 MFs

[onyx crystal]

Do you have Golem, available? I doubt they can duo though. The gauge

[lunar loom]

Surge: 500
Volkner: 400
Elesa: 400
Clemont: 600
Marnie: 700
I refuse to retry volkner and elesa's stages any further

[cunning shore]

Yeah golem is available

EX'd too

[main pulsar]

come on dodgeeeee

welp

there goes pinch push

[cunning shore]

You think it can nuke harder than 2/5 N?

[main pulsar]

my depression is immeasurable

[candid cobalt]

In that case BP Soph would be the better option than N

[onyx crystal]

Oh probably.

[main pulsar]

does N have any multipiers

[onyx crystal]

Definitely, I want to say.

[main pulsar]

cuz boph has one

thus it should be more

[cunning shore]

Few Sync Nodes

[main pulsar]

so boph is better

[cunning shore]

Imma actually try again the morning with Soph

Hopefully nukes harder

[onyx crystal]

You can 5/5 golem, yes?

[cunning shore]

Yea

[candid cobalt]

Iirc N's main useful aspect of his 2/5 grid is Follow Through and maybe Unbending

And that's abt it

[cunning shore]

He gets a few sync nodes in 2/5, and some more at 3/5

[main pulsar]

follow through is ass

[cunning shore]

Honestly 3/5 gets like 100+ Sync and Static Shock 3

But i refuse to candy

[azure idol]

Outrage paralysis synergy, outrage confusion boon

[candid cobalt]

Even then he doesn't have many multipliers

[main pulsar]

LOL OUTRGE

[candid cobalt]

Outrage dps lessgooo

[main pulsar]

[azure idol]

I jk

[cunning shore]

Outrage ain't gon sweep sides 😭

[main pulsar]

mmm idk

is trainer redemption really worse

i didnt have teh damage to kill marnie still

guess i just need more mind games procs

does the sync damage guard let you live sync 2

[onyx crystal]

Soph's sync isn't much better than N's at 2/5.

[cunning shore]

You need rngesus to smile upon you

[main pulsar]

mkay

[candid cobalt]

Not too sure

[cunning shore]

[onyx crystal]

And Zekrom can guranatee crit with follow-thru

[azure idol]

If you're at full HP, I guess?

[main pulsar]

yeah i wasnt full hp

guess it isnt good nough

[onyx crystal]

I think Golem has to drop Tough Sync to grab First Aid 4.

[main pulsar]

marnie dont snarl me please

[onyx crystal]

If he had Tough Sync it'd be better.

[main pulsar]

i used tough sync

[cunning shore]

I don't mind dropping first aid

[main pulsar]

i dont think first aid is that good

[cunning shore]

I'll test it out, I know for sure N won't handle the stage unless I 3/5 him

[onyx crystal]

it's like 50% better then with Tough Sync 3 and both sync tiles.

vs 2/5 n

[cunning shore]

Hmm worth a try

[onyx crystal]

May the be with you.

[main pulsar]

may the 80% be with you

also known as 50%

i think i cant miss the quad queeu

good thing i can only do it about half the time

rng on rng on rng

i got pinch pushed at the wrong time again

🤔

rough

now that i think about it

vigialnce is useless

i die in one hit anyway

@onyx crystal what do you think is a good lucky skill for surge?

bp

raichu

in that team i was using

bp raichu ash clemont

[candid cobalt]

Iwl that team seems rough

[onyx crystal]

mind games i guess for that team

[main pulsar]

whats lwl

[candid cobalt]

I won't lie

[onyx crystal]

you really gonna blow Deluxe for it though?

[main pulsar]

oh thats an I

i already blew it for clemont

😔

dunno if worth for raichu

he doesnt live very long

does damage gaurd work against sync

type damage*

[onyx crystal]

It's worse for a support, since they're mostly buffing before they die

[onyx crystal]

Nope.

[main pulsar]

fudge

hrm

i guesss

gradual healing?

[onyx crystal]

healthy healing procs on pokemon moves, which is a little better

[hardy fog]

Brother thats impressive and incredibly resourceful. how does your lt surge and sophocle survive first sync against lt surge?

[main pulsar]

is there ANY thing to do?

like any damage reduction or major healing source

like worse come worse i guess i can run agile entry

[main pulsar]

any other ls im missing?

[onyx crystal]

the LS won't matter much

[main pulsar]

Hm

[onyx crystal]

vigilance is sufficient

[main pulsar]

Guess I’ll just use my healthy healing cookie

I can’t think of any unit I’d use it on

So it’s not something I’ll miss

[onyx crystal]

what is your score?

[main pulsar]

Other than a collectors item

280k

I’m just trying to go high

Ooh I got sentry entry in 10

I can keep that

[atomic hamlet]

Score: 374,493

Strengths:
Surge: 530 STR --> 70,269 points
Volkner: 475 STR --> 61,356 points
Elesa: 450 STR --> 65,694 points
Clemont: 550 STR --> 71,850 points
Marnie: 920 STR --> 105,324 points

Replays and unit information: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSJkmy01T04

@onyx crystal a proper pinned message submission :p

also @azure idol @hardy fog you both asked for some tips, this should do you well

[magic sandal]

This is correct yeah

Marlon’s did more damage if you didn’t debuff his defence in the last HS as an example

And why he did x defence right before sync

[azure idol]

So the difference is I sync with power plant Hau

[tardy quartz]

I have a goal tonight.

I’m not going to sleep until 950 Marnie is done.

If I can get it done early, i’m doing 1,000

[tame sentinel]

30k improvement from my first run! i'm happy with this :)

will prob try to improve a bit more once i get 20 4-star tickets to EX lodge Elesa but generally keep the others the same

[tardy quartz]

If you need some advice, I see a lot of places where teams can be swapped around for more points

[tame sentinel]

i'll prob keep it the same for tonight just since i'm a bit tired, but maybe later i'll get in the mood to test other things so ye i'd def be appreciative of advice i can use later!

what were you thinking?

[tardy quartz]

You have a team that can easily get 90k+ points on Marnie

SS Blue, SS Hau, and Hau

Cause Hau on Clemont is kind of a sitting duck

[tame sentinel]

ooo yeah i think i remember seeing someone talk about that team a while back when i checked this

what does Hau do on the Marnie team?

[tardy quartz]

Discharge for extra chip damage, and Inertia sync

Lemme upload my 850 run to YT and I can send it over

[tame sentinel]

ty i'd appreciate that

[tardy quartz]

My only difference is that I have Hau EX, but shouldn’t matter too too much

[tame sentinel]

i could EX him for sure

[tardy quartz]

His theme is worth it i’m ngl

[tame sentinel]

if i were to do that what would you recommend using for the Elesa team?

since Clemont on the Elesa team was a bit reilant on SS Blue for additional hax

at least at 15k strength

[tardy quartz]

What electric types did you not use?

[tame sentinel]

i could prob lower the strength value

let me check

1/5 Marnie, MC and Pikachu, Sophocles and Togedemaru

[tardy quartz]

Hmm

I used N and Sonia on Elesa myself

Not too too sure what else works well there

[shy flower]

I've been almost successful by using Elesa and Sonia vs Elesa

[tame sentinel]

i could try something like that

or i could just leave Elesa/Sonia on Clemont and try to find someone good enough to do a lower strength Clemont clear

Clemont/Sophocles/BP Clemont could prob clear at like 10k strength with some RNG

i might try it once i see Nick's video

[tardy quartz]

Still uploading

[atomic rain]

elesa is mean this event

[candid cobalt]

Managed to do a 500 str clear on Clemont with Ash, MCChu and Lodge Elesa

[tardy quartz]

Quality might also be shit for a couple minutes cause YT

[tardy quartz]

500 damn

[candid cobalt]

Got lucky cos Clemont basically spammed Parabolic Charge instead of Thunder after sync

[atomic rain]

youtube baking quality to 2008 pngs as tradition

[tardy quartz]

I’m on 420 with SS Elesa, Ash, and MC

[candid cobalt]

Ooh

SS Elesa is tough cos she doesn't tank very well

Did she manage to evade much?

[tardy quartz]

I think she can survive until sync

[candid cobalt]

Ah

[tardy quartz]

Idts

I need to improve that run, but Marnie is the focus atm

[candid cobalt]

Fair enuf

I did 500 str on Marnie too with NC Blue, Hau and Clemont

[tardy quartz]

https://youtu.be/0wTzFl6vU3s?si=ChaQm473kOaqcb50

[shy flower]

I've only done 400 on Clemont with L Elesa, Ash, and Nemona

[tame sentinel]

ty!

[candid cobalt]

But uh the points don't go up too much because that team revolves around aoe attacks

So I rack up like 100+ hits in no time

[tardy quartz]

1,000 I think is possible with this team, but it’s rng hell

[candid cobalt]

You've got NC Blue and SS Hau on that team right

[atomic rain]

if only i had nc blue and didnt have to cope breathtaking mpr and evasion

also ss elesa being dark weak was so fucking cringe

[candid cobalt]

Yikes yeah that is not fun

[main pulsar]

im suffering

30 minutes

trying to get good rng

[atomic rain]

if she opened with crunch its an instant reset

[main pulsar]

for me

[atomic rain]

because there is no chance she can survive the sides

[main pulsar]

if she opens with ANY MOVE THAT HITS

then its a reset

[atomic rain]

that was on 200 xd

[main pulsar]

im on 600

so im dying

[atomic rain]

ss elesa has like negative hp for a support

[main pulsar]

save me

[atomic rain]

like 670

at 140 ex

is not good

[main pulsar]

thats more than surge

[atomic rain]

oh im forgetting theme skills too

[azure idol]

Thanks @atomic hamlet I'm now above the biggest whale yay! Did 940 Marnie btw

[tame sentinel]

could you send your grids for this please?

i might try it tomorrow thanks so much for the video!

[tardy quartz]

Yeah ofc

Lemme dm them so you don’t need to scroll through chat again later

[tame sentinel]

appreciated!

[azure idol]

(Edited) Score: 401,820

Teams:
Surge: 560 STR --> 75,990 points Grids, LS
Volkner: 480 STR --> 66,408 points Grids, LS
Elesa: 540 STR --> 73,185 points Grids, LS
Clemont: 620 STR --> 75,750 points Grids, LS
Marnie: 1000 STR --> 110,487 points Grids, LS

@onyx crystal

[main pulsar]

Awooga

Yeah when I’m feeling tired I decide to say really random things

[hardy fog]

Elesa zebra takes like 5 turns to set up right

Or would you save her tm for heals

[main pulsar]

No

It’s 4

[hardy fog]

How so

[main pulsar]

You only need to click 4 buttons?

[hardy fog]

X attack is only 4 attack

[main pulsar]

The other 2 speed can either be covered with a support or fast track and you wanna support ex first anyway

[hardy fog]

And you only get 4 speed for other tm

[main pulsar]

Oh that’s what you mean

What team are you doing this

[hardy fog]

So x attack mpr

And then you proc fast track

Realistically like 6 turns if you are lucky haha

[signal needle]

Clemont and BP Surge footage

[main pulsar]

I am

Not recording this

[hardy fog]

I'm going to be shuffling few things around and ex a couple more next week.

But I'm going for marnie / HJas / Zelesa for volkner

[main pulsar]

It took me combined about an hour and a half

To grind that run

It is

HELL

[maiden canopy]

Why is Marnie the main punching bag for most whales?

[main pulsar]

Because ncblue

He seems to easy mode it

[maiden canopy]

And you can do it for other fights too

[main pulsar]

Yeah but can you easy mode 1k strength

[maiden canopy]

I just don't get why it's specifically Marnie who's always getting the high STR

[main pulsar]

Doesn’t seem like it

[signal needle]

Her sync isnt strong even in Terrain

[hardy fog]

I'm going to move ash to clemont fight

[signal needle]

And she doesnt do Discharge or Thunder stuff

[main pulsar]

Okay your elesa

[hardy fog]

And use 5/5 hau and drop my points to like 70k and get extra in other

[main pulsar]

You should ex it

[tardy quartz]

1,000 strength marnie is gonna make me lose my sanity

I have the run. I know what needs to be done. But RNG keeps fucking me over

[hardy fog]

Yea I'm exing zelesa lelesa n and hau

[maiden canopy]

No thanks, I'm happy with my 525 strength on Surge

[main pulsar]

[tardy quartz]

I literally had a run that was perfect

Then I flinched on 1 of 2 turn where I can’t flinch the opponents

And lost the run.

[main pulsar]

Blue also doesn’t fit well on other teams

Most of them are physical

Or ash

Who shouldn’t be wasting them both

[maiden canopy]

Well, there's Clemont

[main pulsar]

So whales really only can beat up marnie

I mean

Ash

Like you pick one or the other yanno

But clemont heals

So you wanna burst it down

Or you’re me and blue hates you so you have to use ash against marnie

1 hour of grind

And I want it to not matter

Blue please comeeeeee

[maiden canopy]

Also, having EleSSa on a team really helps with the lesser hits dealt score

[main pulsar]

Actually was it 2 hours

For my sanity I’ll say one hour

[maiden canopy]

And it especially helps with SST Red

[main pulsar]

But the reoccurring team for sstred is clemont soph

Like it’s locked

Surge is getting beat with exactly that team

[maiden canopy]

Well, my Sophocles is on my Volkner team

[main pulsar]

I don’t want to touch my volkner run

[maiden canopy]

Guaranteed paralyze and potential flinch when Volkner does an AoE attack move after X Evasion All

[main pulsar]

Honestly I don’t wanna touch 3 of my runs anymore

Until blue maybe if blesses me

[maiden canopy]

I just wished my Elesa team didn't suck fuck

[main pulsar]

We’re All devolving our English

What ur elesa team again

[maiden canopy]

BP Shit, OG Elesa and MCChu

[main pulsar]

Bp shit

That is god awful though jeezus

[maiden canopy]

Only 290 STR

[signal needle]

Mc chu op

[main pulsar]

That’s my classic elesa team

Like on that level

[shy flax]

is there any particular reason Elesa is being used against. Volkner?

[maiden canopy]

Which Elesa

[shy flax]

regular Elesa / Zebstrika

[sullen pier]

people always use Marnie there, but she wants an EX Strike to clear sides

so Elesa or BP Sophocles is usually used there

[shy flax]

i see, that makes sense. I was looking at hte leaderboard and didn't see any BP Sophocles lol

also is it not possible to view other people's teams on the in-game rankings?

[sullen pier]

yes you cant

[maiden canopy]

Some of the top people here have shown their stuff

[waxen thorn]

Got all the rewards and the badge in the last one so we chilling
(But I still wonder how bad my unplanned teambuilding was lol, ended up not using lodge elesa)

[azure idol]

Also Elesa covers Unova/Alola requirements

[hardy fog]

So you were going to copy Quaggles line for Clemont fight. What made you change to potionchu and how rng is it.

Because that 75k looks pretty solid lol

[azure idol]

Because I don't have Nemona

I tried various options, BP Surge, SS Elesa, potionchu

I got close to 70k with SS Elesa

[hardy fog]

Ss Elesa is worse in your opinion then I guess

[azure idol]

She can be better if she has infinite TM I guess lol

Potionchu runs are more consistent

[hardy fog]

Ok

Might just copy yours

What are the key mpr. I think you said x sp def was most important and not let enemy have sp attack

[azure idol]

It's basically combination luck of potion MPR and Clemont not hitting too hard

His first sync will push potionchu to near death so you need to heal up if it eats an aoe before that

Elesa and potionchu's TMs don't matter, I just use them after fully debuff to reduce hit numbers

I saved b move nuke until after sync 4 btw

[hardy fog]

I also saw you run electric guard but I don't want to give up mind games 2 lol

[azure idol]

It will be hard for her to tank thunders then, you can reset more I guess

[haughty haven]

Electric guard is must for Clemont

[azure idol]

Or tune down the difficulty

[haughty haven]

At higher str he just oneshot tank with Thunder

[maiden canopy]

Very interesting idea
https://reddit.com/r/PokemonMasters/s/biCxvAAjcC

[jagged eagle]

omg fellow rats non-haver 🤝

[main pulsar]

I mean

My electric roster is small enough that this isn’t a big deal

Until I get blue there’s no extra multiplier I can go for

(Cuz hau is unusable wahoo)

[hardy fog]

Lammmme

People prob already figured it out but I found that for the sst red/soph/bp clemont vs lt surge fight, it’s most consistent if soph tanks

[main pulsar]

Wait what?

Why’s that

[forest ferry]

Probs coz he dies to sync even from full HP

Unless you drop spl atk stat

[maiden canopy]

What strength anyways?

[forest ferry]

I tried 600 str

He dies from full HP

That's why I ditched BP clemont and went for surge

Coz +4 spl def, -4 spl atk soph would live

Also freed up my BP clemont for another team

[maiden canopy]

And how many times did Soph trigger Unyielding?

[forest ferry]

0
Didn't grid him for that

I went for stats

[maiden canopy]

What's the Steady Resolve amount?

[hardy fog]

So the basic of this. Max for paralyze. Quad queue twice. And paralyze proc after bp clemont dies. Lol so you gotta run everything right like 10 times and pray for the 10% paralyze proc once on the sides.

[forest ferry]

Steady resolve?

[maiden canopy]

The Sp. Atk. reduction mitigation

[forest ferry]

Don't remember

[hardy fog]

O sheeeet you did lt surge for lt surge as well

I was wondering how it survived. It's from spattack debuff

Don't really want to ex lt surge though

[forest ferry]

Surge doesn't need ex for it at all

Just need 5* iirc

Coz you'll just tank with surge and pray stray hits don't ohko him before sync

[hardy fog]

Its genius though

Since soph is way more useful after sync compared to bp clemont lol

@forest ferry do you see any other better candidate for that N team?

[forest ferry]

What N team?

[hardy fog]

Yours

[forest ferry]

👀

Oh

[hardy fog]

But mine is 1/5 anyway

Prob just going to suffer lol

[forest ferry]

Well if I had celesa, I can ditch eleSSa

Coz I was gridding HE1 on zekrom for para chance

Celesa would solve damage issues so I can go like 450+ str maybe

[candid cobalt]

Woo got to 276k points

[forest ferry]

You can also ditch eleSSa for some other paralysis bot if you have any available

[signal needle]

Unless Max Guard on Soph

[signal needle]

Oh ok

[forest ferry]

Well I don't plan on running BP clemont there anyways

[hardy fog]

I'm going to do your clemont line for sure though.

[forest ferry]

Since I am missing both hjas and NCblue

My clemont run is ez

You just reset if mob does x spl atk

[maiden canopy]

Hmmmm, I kinda wanna try that Surge team with OG Soph as the tank

[forest ferry]

Otherwise it's very straightforward

[hardy fog]

But lt surge would die first sync any way so you kinda want him to tank till first sync lol

[forest ferry]

I actually had a run where surge was alive

Post sync

[hardy fog]