High Score

[candid cobalt]

Luckily Clemont barely used Thunder on Lodge Elesa for me

[red pendant]

someone gave me idea to swap BP surge with BP clemont so that N's team can have BP surge

ya know, so that somebody can buff his crit

[candid cobalt]

He only did so after sync in which Lodge Elesa could tank cos of endure

Afterwards Ash becomes the main tank

Because funny endure and damage guard

[haughty haven]

But i think you still can go higher with Ash

[candid cobalt]

Fair enuf

I'll try 450 strength

Potionchu would allow Lodge Elesa to survive longer too

[haughty haven]

Even my Elesa (CS1 btw) still get me to 360 str

[red pendant]

but yeah, I now have TWO big problems with my new Vs. Elesa team

• Volkner can flinch without paralyzing
• BP Clemont is bad at tanking even WITH Electric Terrain on

[fair drift]

electric terrain just powers up the opponents' electric moves

[fair drift]

did you pick electrorepulsion on grid?

[red pendant]

yes

[fair drift]

between his defesive buffs, electrorepulsion, shock recovery, perhaps even synchro healing, he should live long enough

[red pendant]

and he STILL takes entirely too much damage

[fair drift]

and I don't see why Volkner flinching without paralyzing is a big problem

[haughty haven]

Elesa

[red pendant]

because of resilience blocking paralysis

[fair drift]

what strength are you running? and remind me again who you're fighting

[red pendant]

200

and I will NOT lower it

under ANY circumstances

anyway, I am fighting Elesa

with a team of Volkner/Elesa/BP Clemont

[haughty haven]

She need to be para do deal any dmg

[red pendant]

I was able to beat Elesa with a team of BP Soph/Elesa/BP Surge before

but that had the side effect of not being able to use BP Surge for the Vs Surge team

since N really needs a crit buffer

[haughty haven]

Do you still have OG soph ?

[red pendant]

...yes? why you ask?

[fair drift]

then what about BP Soph/Elesa/BP Clemont. BP Soph is self sufficient. hopefully speed is okay

[haughty haven]

He has 100% para, 60% flinch

[red pendant]

but he doesn't have Electric Terrain

that's the big problem

[haughty haven]

And you should para all 3 mon first before flinch

[fair drift]

that's not the issue here. It seems Elesa as the sole damage dealer isn't enough

[red pendant]

BP Clemont absolutely requires an Electric Terrain

[candid cobalt]

Not really

[red pendant]

ya know, in order to not be folded like an omelette

[haughty haven]

No

[red pendant]

bruh, even WITH Electric Terrain, BP Clemont takes way too much damage

imagine how much more damage he'd get WITHOUT Electric Terrain

[candid cobalt]

Wait this is against CElesa right

[haughty haven]

He is my tank without electric terrain at 360 str and he still fine

[red pendant]

yes

[signal needle]

That stage is basically requiring u to dump another striker that does nothing or to consume an extra support

[candid cobalt]

Ok I have no experience using Clemont against CElesa but CElesa does hit like a truck

[fair drift]

well think about it this way. electrorepulsion 3 reduces damage by 30%, but electric terrain actively powers up your opponent's moves by 50%

[signal needle]

And MC Chu is another striker that actually does a supporting thing only and doesnt boost other stats so u dont waste any Supporting stat boosts

[candid cobalt]

Sonia would die in like 2 quick attacks if it wasn't for her potions

[signal needle]

Did u get paralysed or idk

[fair drift]

was it that bad? my sonia tanked CElesa just fine, but i was only at 200 strength or something lol

[signal needle]

I forgot id c elesa has Static shock

[candid cobalt]

She doesn't

[balmy canyon]

Hey guys. I'm at 156k points rn at the last stage. If I'm gonna take 2 electric types, what score should I get to at least reach 180?

[candid cobalt]

Quick Attack just hits very hard

Tbf it is Post Sync

But Sonia was at +6 def

[signal needle]

Oh ye my Sonia barely lived those Wild Chargws when i max defenses and debuff C Elesa to -6 Atk

[signal needle]

Just debuff her Accuracy maybe with clemont

[fair drift]

do we have any electric pair that can reliably debuff attack

[signal needle]

Just that 1

[fair drift]

i remember that's the tip for CElesa but I can't recall anyone

[atomic rain]

celesa doesnt have multipliers iirc

[signal needle]

C elesa vs C elesa

[worldly parcel]

Conditions:

1: 3* Min Rarity | All Pairs (Limited Included) | Type | Attack Down‎

------------------------------

Blue (Champion) & Zapdos
‎　⤷Discharge: Overwhelm 9
Elesa (Classic) & Emolga
‎　⤷Shock Factor 9, Shock Factor 1
Marnie & Morpeko
‎　⤷Disheartening Shock 9
Sygna Suit Hau & Tapu Koko
‎　⤷Unfortuitous 9
Volkner & Luxray
‎　⤷Terrify 1

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[signal needle]

Thats what i mean

[primal shadow]

Ah I see

Yeah I used 2 Supports vs him, BP Clemont, BP Surge, and Elesa

[fair drift]

ah yes, Terrify

[signal needle]

Oh ye nc blue 3/5 too

[signal needle]

Thats not too bad either

[primal shadow]

But I needed BP Surge for his offense buffs for Elesa anyway

[haughty haven]

Debuff atk is so good for Marnie and Elesa stage

[signal needle]

But like

[candid cobalt]

Nah it's all g I already completed the stage

[signal needle]

Mc chu helps BP clemont last longer

[red pendant]

oh god

[signal needle]

So maybe in the end u can get a better score

[red pendant]

Soph's Nuzzle costs way too much Move Gauge

[candid cobalt]

You only need to use Nuzzle 3 times

After that just spam zing zap

[haughty haven]

You can grid Nuzzle Move charge 9

[signal needle]

Why is Nuzzle 3 gauge but thunder wave 2 anyways

[primal shadow]

Definitely better than hobbling along on Synchro Healing, First Aid, and Endurance

[signal needle]

[red pendant]

also, BP Clem loses 25% of his HP...from one single Quick Attack

[primal shadow]

I don't feel like doing any more

[signal needle]

Psst thats nothing

[candid cobalt]

No idea tbh

[pliant temple]

@signal needle @onyx crystal y'all the real MVPs thank you so much!!!

[candid cobalt]

Honestly same 😭

[primal shadow]

Because it does damage

[signal needle]

Cringe volkner score but at least u got it done

[candid cobalt]

Yall have given me so many suggestions but I just feel dead

[pliant temple]

and no BP Soph necessary

[signal needle]

[primal shadow]

I literally got a headache after my run

[fair drift]

try BP Soph/Elesa/BP Clemont then. kill mid as fast as possible

[signal needle]

That fart damage

[fair drift]

it's not too different from your first team with BP Surge. plus BP Surge has worse survivability

[primal shadow]

Please buy him he's a good boy

[candid cobalt]

I've literally passed my water HS score and I have less electric units than water units

This is a milestone for me

[pliant temple]

no

[fair drift]

decision paralysis

[primal shadow]

What was my Water score anyway

Imma go check

[signal needle]

Idk why but i found this HS event very satisfying

[candid cobalt]

Using Ash was satisfying

[signal needle]

I was probably scarred by Lana's and Archie's stage so much

[candid cobalt]

And having NC Blue absolutely carry Hau was great

[signal needle]

Archie was like
Me: do i HAVE to ex my kris or ss grims?

[pliant temple]

i cracked 300k in the water event and this one was nothing but struggle clears ❤️

[candid cobalt]

Archie was horrid

[pliant temple]

TERRIFIED of Fire HS, I will not speak of it

[candid cobalt]

Sheesh

Oh wait Tai has Cerena and SSLys

No wonder

[pliant temple]

[primal shadow]

I'm just 5k below my Water HS lol

[pliant temple]

(and Eusine and Archie )

[red pendant]

oh god

FINALLY

[candid cobalt]

Stacked water units

[signal needle]

I dont have Chinese New Year May, Thief Glora nor Hildatini dying

[red pendant]

and I even got a higher score as well

[primal shadow]

Why are you afraid

You have Evelyn, no?

[candid cobalt]

Wait omg u pulled Eusine???

[red pendant]

okay, I will no longer touch that CElesa score

[pliant temple]

CNY MAY 💀

[candid cobalt]

I never kneww

[mortal timber]

Oh fire HS rank 1, no excuses tai

[red pendant]

and go straight to Surge

[pliant temple]

[mortal timber]

You and your 1/5 kiawe

[signal needle]

Tai will have EX Malva idk why he afraid

[candid cobalt]

Unreleased unit so true

[pliant temple]

i have literally no fire limiteds i NEED Malva to come and save at least one clear for me 😭 HELP

[signal needle]

October!

Unreleased no more

[candid cobalt]

Inb4 Malva is just a striker version of Lodge Serena

[signal needle]

U also got EX Lodge calem

Chill

[candid cobalt]

And is a flying type

[pliant temple]

[fair drift]

he's out of line but he's right

[fair drift]

thief glora???

[candid cobalt]

Tai would you be fine if she had Flying Wish

[signal needle]

Ofc

[pliant temple]

okay no i'd love that for real

[candid cobalt]

She can support Lysandre

[pliant temple]

[signal needle]

Stealing victor spotlight in the glora villain arc

[candid cobalt]

Ayy

[fair drift]

be not afraid, you have Lodge Calem

[pliant temple]

[candid cobalt]

I'm ngl my units are lacking for any type other than grass

[pliant temple]

oh god. time for Ethan DPS

[signal needle]

Tl serena being flying type is a statement saying that the flying niche is fully occupied in Kalos dont worry

[pliant temple]

(anyway i'll stop shitposting here so people can actually get help, y'all are fab )

[primal shadow]

Wait do you not have SS Red

[fair drift]

my best roster is water but even then I couldn't compete with singapore suit lysandre owners

[red pendant]

oh god

[signal needle]

No
Get back here and use BP Soph to complete a stage

[red pendant]

BP Surge has absolutely no survivability without First Aid

[signal needle]

[candid cobalt]

As long as one of the enemies are weak to Psychic, Ethan will carry!!!

[pliant temple]

🚶

[fair drift]

well, he kinda does need it if he wants to live at all

[signal needle]

Bp surge is a joke

[fair drift]

and I EX'd him too...

[red pendant]

...so I guess using him to buff N's crit in the Surge stage was a bad idea after all?

[signal needle]

Talking about experience from LG

If he cant eat attacks from legendary arena how he gonna survive this

[red pendant]

I have EX'd BP Surge specifically for this event, too 😦

[fair drift]

him and N works fine

you kinda do need a defensive buffer at least

or a healer

can you post your roster again

[primal shadow]

Same lmao

[red pendant]

...a healer? in a stage that doesn't allow healing?

[fair drift]

oh right i forgot this is the surge stage

[candid cobalt]

😭

[fair drift]

defensive buffer is your only option then

[candid cobalt]

Yeah no N does not do great against Surge

[fair drift]

worse case scenario (and I wish we don't get to that) is we use Sonia

[fair drift]

N does not do great against anyone

[candid cobalt]

It is quite tragic

[arctic quest]

[primal shadow]

N does not

[red pendant]

I already used Sonia elsewhere, sorry

[primal shadow]

End of sentence

[ornate turret]

N offtype is so bad

[candid cobalt]

N simply just doesn't

[ornate turret]

[arctic quest]

N is just bad tbh

[candid cobalt]

Remember when we used to clamor over N for having SEUP

[primal shadow]

N stands for Null because that's the amount of damage he does

[ornate turret]

he needs OP 3/5 expanded grid

[mortal timber]

N slander part 1000? I am in again for the 1000th time

[arctic quest]

LMAO same

[sullen pier]

imagine needing 5/5 but you still sucks

[leaden peak]

Would BP sohphicles or hau br better for surge stage

[candid cobalt]

All N units in a nutshell

[pliant temple]

I do not hence my terror

[candid cobalt]

The epitome of eh

[leaden peak]

Anni n is good

[arctic quest]

Okay don't come for Summer N tho

[red pendant]

BP Soph is actually one member in my Vs Surge team

[primal shadow]

Not even from the free ticket?

[sullen pier]

Lodge N is sleep god

[fair drift]

hmmm. I see two options:
SS Elesa to evatank (that's what I did vs Surge)
Grid Volkner to tank hits, tank with him

[candid cobalt]

Ok true Summer N is great

[arctic quest]

thank you

[pliant temple]

SS Blue from that one

[primal shadow]

Ah, fair enough

[red pendant]

hmm...well, Volkner can't buff crit, so SS Elesa it is...unless she doesn't replace Surge?

[primal shadow]

Hau evasion tank like me instead

[red pendant]

in which case, should I keep 2/5 N or 2/5 BP Soph?

[fair drift]

no, I mean Volkner/BP Surge/N

but Volkner tanks

[signal needle]

Me hoping next HS event is Psychic

[arctic quest]

[red pendant]

ah

[signal needle]

Just cus my roster good

[fair drift]

because he has electrorepulsion and static recovery (is that the passive name?)

[signal needle]

[red pendant]

so I guess 2/5 N is still better than 2/5 BP Soph?

[daring igloo]

You right

Cause I didn't even use him

[red pendant]

after all, 2/5 BP Soph does get a sync multiplier, unlike N

[leaden peak]

Why can't 3/5 BP soph

[red pendant]

no candy

[primal shadow]

BP ticket?

[leaden peak]

No BP tickets to?

[red pendant]

I used up the BP Ticket to bring BP Soph to 2/5

😭

[primal shadow]

Rip

[leaden peak]

I think next reset events give a candy

[fair drift]

well, try N, if he doesn't work, do BP Soph

[primal shadow]

At least when BP Soph dies he can still do something

[arctic quest]

BP Soph over N anyday allday

[whole finch]

Bp Soph after A. Golem dies:
"I am taking you with me!!!"

[robust lintel]

What's a good grid for Clemont against Volkner?

[ornate turret]

you don't have any 4* strike candies???

[onyx crystal]

Glad you made t.

[whole finch]

🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳

Congratulations!

[pliant temple]

thank you it was 20% me, 80% them

[red pendant]

fuck

it's as if the opponents completely ignore SS Elesa's evasion stat

[fair drift]

it's just how RNG goes

[primal shadow]

Yeah I questioned if VS Marnie had Piercing Gaze or something because she hit every move at -6 accuracy lmao

[arctic quest]

Me when Thunder always hits for them on +4 evasion

[red pendant]

oh no

N cannot survive the enemy sync

[candid cobalt]

SAME

And like she only has Mind's Eye 5

Surely she'd miss some moves

but NOPE

[red pendant]

also, N's sync, even with guaranteed crit, his like a wet tissue

maybe I really should replace him with BP Soph

[primal shadow]

N just caN't

[candid cobalt]

https://youtu.be/2Iw5bt4FqQo?si=BCei2IKA2Nc4aMav

Like I watched this guy

[red pendant]

fuck

[candid cobalt]

And I swear I have never seen someone get so many misses and paralysis procs

[red pendant]

BP Soph can't survive the enemy sync either

the Surge battle is absolutely impossible for me 😦

[ornate turret]

tbh if you struggling with 200 str then getting the medal might not be possible, settle for lower str and increase str for other battles

[primal shadow]

You have to kill Surge very very quickly

Which is not something N can do

[candid cobalt]

MomeNt

[sullen pier]

uNfortuNate

[primal shadow]

N = Nate

[ornate turret]

200 str is like 40-45k/battle so around 200-220k total. you'll need a few 250-300str runs

[arctic quest]

disappoiNting

[primal shadow]

GoodN't

[red pendant]

I'm sorry, but no

I cannot accept that

I absolutely NEED that medal

no matter what it takes

[arctic quest]

Good luck

[daring igloo]

KillN't

[primal shadow]

There will be more of these types of events

There is time

[ornate turret]

i'm not telling you to give up, just go for lower str on the surge battle, and reset other fights using the same team but aim for higher str

[arctic quest]

With types that you'll have better access to

[ornate turret]

[arctic quest]

[primal shadow]

Also, if you really mean "no matter what it takes"...

NC Blue is on sale

[arctic quest]

LMAO

💳

[sullen pier]

[candid cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-it-takes-captain-america-iron-man-marvel-mcu-gif-16214328

[ornate turret]

tbh the water event was the best time to get that medal but you didn't try hard enough

[candid cobalt]

Proceeds to spend their life's savings just to get 180k points

Yeahh

[primal shadow]

$180k for 180k points, a fair deal

[candid cobalt]

Water and Grass are probably the 2 types where it'll be easiest to get the medal

[arctic quest]

fire should be decent too I think

[candid cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-balance-perfect-gif-25200656

[ornate turret]

more supports to choose from, dual supports is great in some stages, electric barely has 5 supports

[arctic quest]

Watch the next one be bug

[candid cobalt]

Aw hell nah

[primal shadow]

Fire supports are woeful

[candid cobalt]

Ain't no way I'll be able to do a fire HS

[sullen pier]

there are like 6 Fire supports 2 of them are limited

[full lark]

Get Evelyn

[candid cobalt]

Naur

She dies too quickly from what I've seen

[primal shadow]

Half of Fire "Supports" are Techs

[ornate turret]

probably fire, both water and electric has 3 MF, fire has 3 too others maybe grass and psychic but that's it

[primal shadow]

She will last longer than Flint

[arctic quest]

If you have NC Leaf caked you can count her too

[mortal timber]

I have actually a super good fire roster

[arctic quest]

same

[mortal timber]

If SS Hilda reruns I'll be competing for top 100 again

[candid cobalt]

What's another good type

Lemme look thru all my types

[knotty dew]

I'm only missing champ leaf, variety kiawe and Gloria alt 2 fast 2 furious

[primal shadow]

Steel?

[sullen pier]

Psychic is a good one

[arctic quest]

psychic yeah

[primal shadow]

Solid mix of Supports and DPS

[candid cobalt]

Mmm

[ornate turret]

i can see them doing ghost too

[sullen pier]

Ghost is okay too, but most of good ones are limited

[candid cobalt]

Might have to wait for an SS Steven and SS Lana rerun

[primal shadow]

Oh boy I can't wait to use Caitlin as a tank

[ornate turret]

many are seasonal

[arctic quest]

I would not be good for ghost

[sullen pier]

stare at Fairy

[arctic quest]

I have none of the tapus I really need a select or rerun for em

[candid cobalt]

Laughs

[arctic quest]

LOL

[primal shadow]

Hey at least we won't have Normal HS for a while, right

[candid cobalt]

Nah I need that Normal HS

Let Palmer cook

[primal shadow]

It will literally just be Palmer

Ok Gladion too I guess

[sullen pier]

guys hear me out

[candid cobalt]

Nahh

[karmic osprey]

They could make a normal HS with smaller bonuses for other types

So at least you’d be able to mix and match?

[sullen pier]

Bug doesnt even have 15 pairs

although i can see they make double type HS like Bug- and Poison- HS

[primal shadow]

Huh somehow I have every Bug pair except SS Hilbert

[candid cobalt]

Ez trust

[full lark]

The only limited Bug pair I have is Alder

[sullen pier]

go pull him next time

[primal shadow]

Maybe on a Select or something

[candid cobalt]

Huh I thought I had more dragons

[full lark]

Dragon is a type where they have to dual-type a HS event because it only has 3 Supports and 2 of them are limiteds

[primal shadow]

Flying could be...interesting

[sullen pier]

Flying lacks good accessible dmg dealers tho

[candid cobalt]

Yeah I'm screwed for every type except Grass

[primal shadow]

Everyone has Nate

[candid cobalt]

I'll get Lodge Serena soon but man

This is looking rough

[sullen pier]

Nate

[waxen thorn]

[mortal timber]

Ohi

Someone is ready for fairy

[ornate turret]

fairy is getting better but 7 are seasonal

[mortal timber]

Glad I got dashie

[candid cobalt]

Nate the god

[arctic quest]

Nate will carry flying HS 🙏

[candid cobalt]

So true

[primal shadow]

I have exactly 15

Honestly? Could be worse

[candid cobalt]

Ughh

I have 10 fairies

[arctic quest]

I could do fairy tbh

Oop nvm I have 11 fairy pairs in total

Not counting Lodge leaf though

[haughty haven]

Ready for fighting

[waxen thorn]

I just need lodge leaf to also have 15

[mortal timber]

Holy

Pykuo gonna 1v1 everyone in fighting hs

[candid cobalt]

Yeah I can only do grass

[arctic quest]

Grass would go so hard

[haughty haven]

100% Fighting pair owner

[primal shadow]

I also just realised I'm only missing Guzwole

[candid cobalt]

The next HS better be in a year

I cannot do any of the types

[primal shadow]

Not with that attitude

[arctic quest]

Steel could be good

Steel has a couple decent supports

[leaden peak]

Would BP sophocles or hau be better for surge stage

[primal shadow]

Hau

As tank

[mortal timber]

Lmao

[leaden peak]

So sophocles?

[haughty haven]

Evasion tank

[primal shadow]

I was desperate

[main pulsar]

Team nemona was painful

[mortal timber]

Ayo ex Golem

[primal shadow]

EX BP Soph

[main pulsar]

I had to

[mortal timber]

How did it go

[primal shadow]

Based

[main pulsar]

I spent last night and today

[mortal timber]

[main pulsar]

Getting the good rngs

[mortal timber]

The real HS experience

[main pulsar]

Top 1k for 5 minutes I’ll take it

[leaden peak]

?

[mortal timber]

Hopefully not 5 minutes but still wonderful stuff

[main pulsar]

I think I can improve ash and red fairly easily

Nemona I am scared

I don’t wanna refresh more breathtaking and dodge rng

N damage is ass

[primal shadow]

Who are the other teammates

[main pulsar]

Marnie and elesa barely did it

Same for golem

Golem killed them with last word

That’s how tight the damage was

[leaden peak]

Well this is all I have left

[main pulsar]

Use sselesa as he tank and go ham with haus

[leaden peak]

Haven't built any teams yet deciding on who to ex first

[primal shadow]

I'm not sure what SS Hau does but he looks good

[main pulsar]

He is good I think

[primal shadow]

Is this your last team?

[main pulsar]

[leaden peak]

Yeah but I still need ss hau for marnie

[primal shadow]

Clemont for Marnie

Wait no defs

Except Surge I guess

[leaden peak]

Defensive buffs?

[primal shadow]

Ye

[leaden peak]

Tried using clemont already for marnie not working well can kill marnie sides annoying

[primal shadow]

I'm not super confident in regular Hau's damage, but maybe Hau, SS Elesa, Voltorb?

SS Elesa dodge tank, Voltorb debuffs SpAtk

[leaden peak]

For surge?

[primal shadow]

Yeah

[shell oak]

haha… ha…

[primal shadow]

Wait does regular Hau have crit

[shell oak]

y'all will never guess my favorite type

nope

[leaden peak]

No

[primal shadow]

Aw damn

[leaden peak]

Ss elesa buff crit though

[shell oak]

correct

+1 pre sync +2 post

[leaden peak]

So I should ex hau over BP soph?

[primal shadow]

Oh right I completely forgot

Gonna have to fish for those tho

[primal shadow]

Take it out for a spin first

[candid cobalt]

Sheesh

[primal shadow]

Get a feel for it, see if it's doable

[leaden peak]

Alright thanks

[ornate turret]

surge missed/got para 4 times in a row

[cunning shore]

SSHau seems more useful than the rats the more i look at this channel 😂😂

[ornate turret]

i think someone did almost 300k without the rats

[forest panther]

Update September 23rd: 346,113 Points - Top 81

Strength:

• Lt. Surge +550
• Volkner +450
• Elesa +500
• Clemont +450
• Marnie +700

https://i.gyazo.com/77e8ae70390257e5dc756510f51b349c.jpg
https://i.gyazo.com/469569cba12c71dfb8a6413ca977ff5a.jpg

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gwc6WXPxK4
Reddit Post with Strength and details: https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonMasters/comments/16jf88l/electrictype_masters_event_high_score_326k_points/

@onyx crystal If you don't mind including in your pinned message

[mortal timber]

Spark always on point

Great stuff

[rough forum]

Welp I'm done

Got to a round number while being over 200k, with only tbolt red and 1/5 hjasmine as my fully limited electr units (1/5 n from last year ticket, 1/5 Marnie from this year's)

[sage galleon]

I feel like my teams need a major overhaul, I can barely crack 300 strength on the Surge team

[forest panther]

Thank you
(also very cute emote )

[mortal timber]

Gonna watch the vid when I am a bit more free

Going for some groceries rn

[shell oak]

blue's healing counts as a "hit"?

ignore my pixels lol

[main pulsar]

Update

Top 800

I’ve been exing everything in sight

[red pendant]

Dear god

[hasty juniper]

Yikes

[main pulsar]

Making them slightly higher level to maybe live an extra attack

[hasty juniper]

I still haven't wrangled teams lmao

[red pendant]

Both BP Soph and N are horrible nukes

[hasty juniper]

Largely because my roster is uh

Grim

[red pendant]

Their syncs, even when fully buffed, hit like wet paper

[main pulsar]

Bp soph wasn’t that bad

[hasty juniper]

Like if anyone can help me pull teams together out of this crap I'd be glad.

No rats makes this event hellish even for 180k

[red pendant]

Like, for both, their sync only removes, like, 20% of Surge's health

[atomic rain]

thats good for high score honestly

[red pendant]

What? No

[atomic rain]

considering their dps moves do nothing

both of them are on type units

[main pulsar]

Bp soph was just enough damage

[red pendant]

Especially not compared to literally every other attacker I have

[atomic rain]

idk what you expected

[main pulsar]

I really hate not hearing the nice super effective sound

[red pendant]

I expected Crit to carry

[weary rivet]

Wish you all the patience for this, I am satisfied with my 190k

[hasty juniper]

Tbh that's most of the issues with this

[red pendant]

But crit does jackshit

[hasty juniper]

Electric really struggles to offtype unless you have annirats

[atomic rain]

yeah i mean

forced off type on units that are used to on type

is just meh

1/5th is perfectly fine

for both of them

[hasty juniper]

All your DPSes are ancient or BP and struggle

[red pendant]

Not for me

[atomic rain]

what strength are you doing

[red pendant]

200

[onyx crystal]

[atomic rain]

uh

[main pulsar]

I used 300 strength for bp soph

So

[atomic rain]

i had no issues using n on 200

so this is just having too high expectations

[still wyvern]

What's the average str? 160?

[red pendant]

and as long as I have a low score on Volkner, I will not lower the strength

[main pulsar]

Is that jolteon I see

Variety alert

[weary rivet]

200 is the average strength for 180k

[rough forum]

150-200 STR for 180k yes

[atomic rain]

for 180k you can do all 5 at 200

[red pendant]

N literally cannot survive enemy sync

Like, at all

[still wyvern]

Assuming I use only elec types?

[atomic rain]

on who

[rough forum]

150 with both extra 1k works too iirc

[main pulsar]

Yes he can at 200

[still wyvern]

Cause I'm planning to run 2 elecs and one different type

[red pendant]

I am fighting Surge

[weary rivet]

I wrongly remembered that the average was 300(glad it is not)

[atomic rain]

surge is special

[rough forum]

Oh for that you need 300

330 even

[atomic rain]

if it was id be fucking sobbing

[main pulsar]

Just run 3 electrics

It’s a lot easier

Imo

[atomic rain]

on every fight?

[red pendant]

...I already used up all my Special Attackers 😦

[still wyvern]

I don't have enough roster I think

[ornate turret]

you can just use 150 str in 1-2 stages and 300-350 in the other 3, you don't have the units to do 5 200 runs

[atomic rain]

his sync is special

is what i mean

[red pendant]

Oh

[atomic rain]

ironically enough 3* surge is good for surge stage

[still wyvern]

I've barely got 16 elec types.

[atomic rain]

since eerie impulse is -2 spatk

[rough forum]

Deadass electrode can 200 STR lol

Exless

[mortal timber]

From Monday Imma attempt full strength Marnie

If it's even possible

[still wyvern]

A quarter of them don't have grids or are 1/5.

[mortal timber]

Cuz like, hau's discharge

Hmmmmm not that much DMG hahaha

[atomic rain]

discharge is bad

[red pendant]

Bruh, you telling me a launch day 3* Electrode is somehow better than a 5* Zekrom?

[atomic rain]

just straight up

[main pulsar]

Blue maybe can carry?

[atomic rain]

no your support is probably bad for the stage

[red pendant]

Oh

[atomic rain]

if you have bp clemont he is good

because he buffs both defenses and has screech

[rough forum]

If you know how to optimize and use it on the correct stage, yeah

[red pendant]

I already used up BP Clemont

[atomic rain]

then you want someone else to supplement the offensive buffs

[atomic rain]

where

[rough forum]

BP Clemont + BP surge is good for N if you used volkner elsewhere

[weary rivet]

The offensive debuffing can be very useful

[red pendant]

the team against CElesa

BP Clemont originally WAS on the team that fought Surge

But I had to remove him and Volkner

[atomic rain]

he should be used for surge

[red pendant]

since neither can buff N's crit

[atomic rain]

especially if you’re using N

because he benefits from def drops and the stage is mixed

[rough forum]

BP Clemont is extremely good for surge because that stage has to be presynced in most cases

[atomic rain]

kid named endurance

but yeah it was tight

[red pendant]

I actually tried with BP Clemont/N/Volkner before

[forest panther]

Oh so weird I didn't realize

[rough forum]

Yeah the idea is syncing the last bit of hp

[red pendant]

I did NOT succeed

Not even at 180

[rough forum]

Do you like

Have no good fire in case?

[atomic rain]

if you’re struggling this hard on type just increase the strength and use a really good off type

[rough forum]

A good fire + 2 electr can do surge 300-330

And still do 35k circa

[red pendant]

But will it be enough for a medal?

[rough forum]

Yes.

[atomic rain]

we dont know

[rough forum]

Ah wait

Medal?

Lol

Medal is a total incognita til last days

[red pendant]

Current score

[rough forum]

You cannot know til 24-25

At least

[atomic rain]

mfw 39k is low

[red pendant]

Yeah, 39k is low

Compared to 43k, at least

[rough forum]

Lol

[atomic rain]

it isnt lol

[rough forum]

It's nice

Not extremely good but not bad

[mortal timber]

Oh wait

[rough forum]

The electr cutoff will be 220-240k imho

[primal shadow]

Ultimately we won't know what the actual medal cutoff will be, since it depends on how many other people tryhard

[mortal timber]

@cyan tusk Sorry for ping but the irida user is there

[rough forum]

Because many people own rats + NC blue

[mortal timber]

You were right

2nd place

[atomic rain]

it definitely wont be that high

[rough forum]

Ehhh 220k is very accessible

[atomic rain]

the quantity of water was much higher and a better standard

[atomic rain]

is it

celesa and volkner are cringe as hell

[atomic hamlet]

what ur saying is exactly how I play it

i'm at 1/5 0/20 vkris so she implodes at first sync at 1000 strength lol, once I get PU's I'll try higher scores

[rough forum]

I did 203k first try with basically 1/5 tbolt red as only limited aside 1/5 hjasmine (1/5 Marnie and 2/5 n from old tickets)

[atomic rain]

…thats not accessible

[rough forum]

I actually haven't used N

[hasty juniper]

Tbh rats aren't as common as you'e think

[atomic rain]

if you have good limiteds then it is

water has actually good gen pool dps

electric doesnt

[rough forum]

1/5 Marnie, tbolt, hjasmine isn't really good tho lol

[atomic rain]

tbolt

“isnt really good”

[rough forum]

Yeah but his 1/5 is far from broken as hell

[primal shadow]

If only that were true

Oh you mean the Pikachus, nvm

[hasty juniper]

Yeah this event is literally "Have Rats Or Settle For 180k"

[still wyvern]

What does resilience do?

On Clemont?

[hasty juniper]

Bc I don't think pushing for the top 5k medal is even feasible without SSTR and/or Ash

[atomic rain]

it isnt

they made these stages really brutal

[still wyvern]

And here I am trying to get just enough for all rewards.

[rough forum]

When a sync does 90% of his hp because there's no defensive buffers aside BP Clemont and hjasmine, trust me he's not THAT insane

Ofc he's great but 1/5 has a very weak nuke and no speed debuffs make endgame shittier

[hasty juniper]

Like these stages suck ass on 150, 200

[atomic rain]

kid named sonia

but ok fine

[rough forum]

Oh right I forgot

Still, most stages have endgame discharge

So...

[hasty juniper]

Like I just... How are you meant to do this shit with F2P

[atomic rain]

but you can deny left

[atomic rain]

you arent

f2p elec doesnt even get close to 15

its like 13

[hasty juniper]

Even 180k F2P feels almost impossible

[atomic rain]

if you use everyone in gen pool and lodge + bp

[hasty juniper]

Yeah it's 13

[robust lintel]

Anyone?

[atomic rain]

and if you dont have really good off typers you’re just fucked

[rough forum]

With 1/5 tbolt? Not really at 250-300 STR

His supp ex sync does like 8-9k out of 14-15k and buddy is still pretty weak early on

[hasty juniper]

Bc I have all that and then three more limiteds, two of which are worthless

[atomic rain]

im lucky cuz i have ss steven and ss diantha

[hasty juniper]

Bc 1/5 is insufficient to make N or SS Hau actually function

[rough forum]

NGL I didn't expect 1/5 Marnie to be so solid Vs volkner ngl

[still wyvern]

How do I do Clemont if I lose 80% of stats? Stall?

[hasty juniper]

I picked N over Marnie sadly

[robust lintel]

Phys dps and supports

[rough forum]

Can't stall with electrics

[atomic rain]

dont use him on the stage that bans techs

[hasty juniper]

Largely bc Zekrom is a fave

[rough forum]

You're supposed to use strikers, nemona and supports on clemonts stage

[still wyvern]

Sonia/SSTRed for example?

[hasty juniper]

But sadly N is The Big Suck

[rough forum]

1-2/5 n is abysmal

[hasty juniper]

I could 3/5 but that feels not worth the output from the candies

[robust lintel]

Sstred doesn't work against clemont
Sonia can be good, maybe it's better using someone like zebstrika/alola golem

Or zekrom if you have it

[hasty juniper]

Same as I could 3/5 SS Hau but I probably have better long-term picks for that

[rough forum]

Genuinely better to use electrode because of eerie impulse than Zekrom unless N gets heavy carried by Sonia or smth

[atomic rain]

sonia as a dps sounds so insanely cope

dont

sonia as a support is very good for this event

especially against celesa

who hits very hard and is really fast

[rough forum]

Yeah Sonia is best Vs celesa or volkner imo

[atomic rain]

volkner?

isnt he special

[jagged locust]

Hey, these are all the electric types I have so I know I'll need to use some non electric types but could someone give reccomendations on who to use for who if possible? I plan on upgrading level caps further throughout the week. Is it even possible for me to get the medal with this group?

[rough forum]

Facade is annoying

Does room even learn facade in msg

Rotom*

[still wyvern]

Why Zebstrika or N?

[rough forum]

They're strikers

[fair drift]

check the pins for the High Score grading sheet

[still wyvern]

Although I have both of them at 1/5.

[rough forum]

Not techs

[jagged locust]

Alrighty, thank you!

[still wyvern]

What does it matter? Also mine aren't ex.

[rough forum]

[atomic rain]

read clemont’s stage effect

then maybe you’d understand

[rough forum]

Techs have 1/5th of their stats

In clemonts stage

As you already said yourself

[still wyvern]

Yeah... I'm blind.

I thought it was on every unit.

[red pendant]

I have Ash, but not SST Red or NC Blue

But I don't care, I still want the medal

[fair drift]

having Ash is powerful

[rough forum]

Good luck on medal without 2 of the 3 best units

[fair drift]

yeah....

[weary rivet]

It's possible if you put in the effort

[red pendant]

I already couldn't medal during Water-type HS

[rough forum]

If you don't have sshau missing 2/3 of those can be easily patched

[fair drift]

oh idk how much "effort" can take you. I'm afraid the rat owners are gonne be hella competitive

[rough forum]

Water was free compared to electr

[main pulsar]

How is he able to go so high

[red pendant]

Infact, getting 180k during Water HS was painful as is

[atomic rain]

see the difference between water being accessible is cuz water has a gen pool that doesnt fucking suck off type

[main pulsar]

When his rat is 1/5

[atomic rain]

electric doesnt have that freedom

[main pulsar]

That’s crazy

[red pendant]

Not for me

[weary rivet]

I don't think there are 10k players who are competitive enough, but maybe I am wrong

[fair drift]

there were still disparities between the genpools vs limiteds in water, but not as huge as electric

a lot of good electric types are limited

[red pendant]

I was literally forced to use an Eggmon for Water HS

[fair drift]

as we saw with Tai's struggle

[atomic rain]

.

[red pendant]

It really was THAT bad

[rough forum]

Idk man, my water limited roster wasn't insane yet I got to double the base 180k requirement lol

[main pulsar]

And 90% of electric types that are good are strikers

Not supports

[rough forum]

[atomic rain]

most people used eggmons

[rough forum]

^

[cyan tusk]

Wonderful, keep grinding

[rough forum]

Water eggmons my beloveds

[fair drift]

around 230k was already out of masters rank last water HS. I'm already below that in electric lmao

[atomic rain]

the problem is electric eggmons also suck ass

[young stone]

Rat owner who probably won’t do ranked for medal

[cyan tusk]

Which one, last hs or this hs?

[main pulsar]

There are 3 electric supports

Total

Non limited

[young stone]

Would like to get that medal, but still…

[weary rivet]

Electric is probably having a lower cutoff

[red pendant]

But yeah, the fact I struggled gettinf 180k during Water HS...really doesn't fill me with hope for Electric-type HS

[mortal timber]

This this

Go check the ranks

Irida is back

[fair drift]

five actually. sonia and 4 f2ps

[rough forum]

And many electr DPS aren't as polarizing as water ones

[main pulsar]

I don’t think the others are very good are they?

[rough forum]

That's only a skill issue

[main pulsar]

I don’t remember them though

Like I flat out just don’t remember them

[young stone]

Has someone tried MC & Pika the og rat?

[main pulsar]

There’s sselesa

[fair drift]

they're usable

[primal shadow]

They're all Sp/Atk buffers, but very lame ones at that

[main pulsar]

Bp clemont

And sonia

The others are

Exist

[fair drift]

yes. potion and paralysis bot

[rough forum]

As a newbie account with 1/5 ssb from champ road and 1/5 eusine got 223/227k lol

[atomic hamlet]

i will do it for u :>

[still wyvern]

I can't do Clemont. He receives 0 damage both from N and Zebstrika.

[atomic rain]

lodge elesa is very good against the special heavy stages

or patching crit rate

[fair drift]

hey lodge elesa's great. bp surge.... struggles living

[main pulsar]

Oh shit right

[red pendant]

That doesn't help me in the slightest

[main pulsar]

I forgor

Bp surge is the one that exists

[rough forum]

Lodge elesa is pog against volkner

[main pulsar]

[atomic rain]

you’re at 175k just off type surge

[rough forum]

^

[cyan tusk]

Oh, they’re there

let the real challenge begin

[red pendant]

But the medal 😦

[atomic rain]

wait to see how the scores pan out

then wait to improve

[fair drift]

really? 1/5 EX N worked fine for Clemont

[mortal timber]

Go Bicio go

[rough forum]

Just offtype at 400 STR

[fair drift]

I paired him with BP Surge and BP Clemont. only 200 strength so I know this is very replicable

[rough forum]

Ez

[atomic hamlet]

if anyone wants to actually know how to say their name it's Samui, they're probably a top 3 gauntlet player too, pretty insane at the game :>

[atomic rain]

IT IS TOO EARLY TO WORRY ABOUT IT

IT IS LITERALLY THE SECOND DAY

[main pulsar]

Bicio can you rate my teams pls

[red pendant]

Heck, sorry...

[main pulsar]

I wanna know how to improve

[fair drift]

let's calm down

[young stone]

Okie which electric do you recommend against Marnie?
Special?

[cyan tusk]

I wanna reach 400K to match my collective strenght but I don’t wanna ruin ppu count

[main pulsar]

Cuz like

I’m only barely able to beat any stage

[atomic rain]

water hs scores only really became concrete with like 3-4 days left

this runs for 2 weeks

[weary rivet]

Also not trying to get anyone offended, but it is only a medal at the end

[cyan tusk]

There’s very little improvement I see now, even if I whale Classic elesa’s banner

Which I’m not gonna do

[rough forum]

You have 200k

[red pendant]

...is SS Hilda a good enough off-type strike for 330 strength increase?

[rough forum]

What's the problem

[main pulsar]

I do

[primal shadow]

10/10 for use of EX BP Sophocles

[main pulsar]

And I wish to go higher

[atomic rain]

against surge yes

[red pendant]

Okay

[main pulsar]

This sorta event is fun for me

[rough forum]

Is SS Hilda invested?

[mortal timber]

They are, absolutely cracked player

[main pulsar]

But I’m not sure how to improve teams

[cyan tusk]

So they’re the same, top player

[rough forum]

If so probs can even 350-360

[atomic hamlet]

yeah

[mortal timber]

Crazy crazy stuff

[atomic hamlet]

we copy off of each other in gauntlet

[mortal timber]

If there is a way to congratulate with Samui I would do it rn

[main pulsar]

Ok but I can’t copy off spark

[cyan tusk]

Perfect use of all the invested units, I love it!

[main pulsar]

I’m missing about 5 of those units

[fair drift]

but you only get 2x multiplier instead of 3x? I don't think it's a very fair trade off

[rough forum]

I really envy the free time to do 100+ streaks

[cyan tusk]

You take inspiration

[main pulsar]

Inspire me harder please

[rough forum]

With enough str it's worth it

[atomic hamlet]

yes but unironically!!

[fair drift]

yeah that's the problem

[rough forum]

I did surge offtype for 39k

[fair drift]

honestly I'd rather bring an offtype tank rather than an offtype striker

[rough forum]

It's low but not horrible

[primal shadow]

I'll inspire you to take out your credit card

[main pulsar]

I did surge ontype for 48k

Which is alright

[fair drift]

high strength requires damn good survivability

[main pulsar]

The forbidden tech

[rough forum]

1/5 altgloria was enough for 350 STR tbfh

[mortal timber]

NC Blue can confirm that to you

[main pulsar]

Which alt

[atomic hamlet]

errr they have a twitter but they are japanese so language barrier moment

[fair drift]

glora

[atomic rain]

these are my scores atm im not pushing higher but im saying that you can get good scores even if you off type

[rough forum]

The one literally called alt

[atomic rain]

well more like average

[main pulsar]

Isn’t there alt 1 and alt 2

[mortal timber]

No worries, still absolute madlad, they are very good

[atomic rain]

no?

[primal shadow]

Alt 1 doesn't exist

[atomic rain]

dojo gloria is her own thing

[main pulsar]

Whoop

[primal shadow]

At least not by that exact name

[fair drift]

more like "enough to get all rewards"
and at the end of the day isn't that what matters

because trying to get the medal is kinda hell with Electric

[main pulsar]

Hm

[fair drift]

there's a huge disparity between the haves and have-nots

[cyan tusk]

We’ll keep pioneering the leaderboards to let them patiently get us

[main pulsar]

I thought her name was gloria dojo tbh

[atomic rain]

it is

well

[main pulsar]

Oh

Eh?

[cyan tusk]

Now we’re missing the Hilda guy

[atomic rain]

put dojo first

[rough forum]

Anyway, the bnuy deletes mid easily enough with supp ex

Then you gotta play around bounce dodges+either flinch/para/speed debuffs for surge

[atomic rain]

but yeah its not alt

[mortal timber]

Yeah Hilda

True Bicio

[atomic rain]

bnnuy

[primal shadow]

At the end of the day, this is content designed for endgame

Getting the medal is really just for showing off

[atomic rain]

i already got the medal so im not even looking at this

[atomic hamlet]

nah samui isn't just a "lurk leaderboard until wait last day to win" person they're a pioneer and everyone else should be copying them :p

[rough forum]

I did 1/5 bnuy + togedemaru+ BP clemont ex, took a bit (30 mins) but eventually learned how to endgame

[primal shadow]

And it's around forever, so no pressure

[main pulsar]

I just want big number

Beeeeg number

[primal shadow]

The beegest

[red pendant]

What's a more fair trade-off then?

[rough forum]

I have shit electr so I know I wouldn't break past 220k

[mortal timber]

Oh and ty for telling us about samui quaggles, very appreciated

[main pulsar]

And I’ve already got the medal so there it is

[rough forum]

I did enough with a very optimal water 361k

[main pulsar]

But that’s not important

The NUMBER is important

[atomic rain]

fyi i did my off type clears with like 250-280 str

[red pendant]

Oh

[atomic rain]

i can check

[rough forum]

You can offtype for 300-330 for 36-39k

[main pulsar]

But anyway

Any ideas on my team

[rough forum]

If you think you need it

[main pulsar]

Cuz I want to but also don’t want to rearrange

I’m at an impasse

[cyan tusk]

Well

Im in for the copying team!!

[main pulsar]

How do copy team i can’t press details and see it

🤔

[fair drift]

if you really need to use an offtype pair and still want higher points, increase your strength slightly more I think. or get more debuffs in

for the bonus points

you can test with 350 strength with only 2x multiplier and see how it goes and if you're satisfied with the points

[mortal timber]

Monday Bicio I'll copy the full clear but with hau instead of vkris. I think it's doable even without cake role

[rough forum]

350 becomes quite hard

[fair drift]

bottom line though, don't worry about the medal, especially this early

[rough forum]

^

It's impossible to know

[cyan tusk]

And I might try to bump 5K on lt surge actually

[rough forum]

Also there's more than 12 types left

[fair drift]

and while I hate being pessimistic, it's really hard to maintain your master rank later on especially against premium unit havers

[mortal timber]

Let's go, it's doable 💪

[atomic rain]

i had a better water roster and even then i barely scrapped into getting master mode

[mortal timber]

How many points you got there on surge so far

[main pulsar]

How high does it need to be again

For master mode

[rough forum]

Top 10k rank

[atomic rain]

it took me 8 hours of resets on misty on the last day then like another hour on lana 300 str

[main pulsar]

Hm

Lemme check what my rank was

[rough forum]

I ended up 108th on water

[atomic rain]

i was like

[rough forum]

Or 118tg

[atomic rain]

9000 something

[fair drift]

I got the medal, very barely, because I couldn't compete with the ss lysandre and dojo gloria havers

[main pulsar]

3k

[rough forum]

I had not THAT many water limiteds

[main pulsar]

Huh

[atomic rain]

i had dojo gloria and lana still sucked

[main pulsar]

Is that right I don’t think it is

[atomic rain]

hilbert having negative defenses was not helping

[tall arrow]

Last HS event the cut off was something like 230k, so aim for at least over that

[rough forum]

Yeah doglo was the main way to deal with Lana

[main pulsar]

I got 260k

[rough forum]

1/5 doglo was the only way to break 45k on her

[whole finch]

Meanwhile me

[main pulsar]

Lana I did 200 and left

[fair drift]

God Lana wanted to make me scream

[atomic rain]

krill

[rough forum]

Nessa was my nightmare

[main pulsar]

Why are you using volkner

Marnie is tripping

[whole finch]

I dont lnow

[tall arrow]

You should be good, imho, that was my first score in Water HS and I was never even close to falling off the rankings

[whole finch]

[main pulsar]

Nah I already got the medal I’m asking for reference

[whole finch]

Should i change him with Clemont & Magneton

[main pulsar]

Just wanna do better

[rough forum]

260k is definitely medal in electr

[main pulsar]

Do you got a back pocket striker or something

Marnie struggles with cleave and that’s about it

[whole finch]

no

[main pulsar]

Hm

Also terrain can hinder you when they use electric move

And ur not taking full advantage

Idk what to swap but I don’t think volkner is it

[whole finch]

I use volkner for flinch hax

[rough forum]

BP clemont and hjasmine are resources you wanna split

[main pulsar]

Ic

[main pulsar]

What’s a jasmine can I have it

[rough forum]

Ampharos

[main pulsar]

Gimme

[cyan tusk]

66K but it’s literally the first run I made

[main pulsar]

[cyan tusk]

I also have to check for ls

[rough forum]

Select it 🙂

[main pulsar]

The forbidden technology

[cyan tusk]

Like my bp Clemont could have had a shitty one from lg

Like flameproof

[main pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-anime-omg-wtf-cant-unsee-gif-5159766

[cyan tusk]

[main pulsar]

Also I’m desperate enough to try to make hau tank

This is me

[tall arrow]

Since I did not push my rooster at all for water, I kinda want to go higher with electric, but I think I’ll have to wait and see if I can bring Nemona and someone else’s move levels up. Tbh Marnie is my main issue since I don’t want to raise her rank lol and at 48k she’s my lowest performer

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I mean

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Here is my Electric Units

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My god you really don’t have anything in the back pocket