High Score

[onyx crystal]

Only unavoidable node is Sync Regen to access ER3

[forest ferry]

It's also not like you'd use any other tank for surge either

Other tanks with both defensive buffs have better healing

[onyx crystal]

NC Blue has Roost, Jasmine + Sonia have potions, only one left is Clemont and Elesa (bp), and Lt. Surge (bp).

surge is special, the golem is physical, and the electrode is special, both surge and electrode have gyro ball.

[haughty haven]

So with role cake NC Blue can debuff all enemy right ?

[onyx crystal]

and Raichu Surge raises its speed, so it'll take double damage from gyro ball.

[sturdy glen]

No I mean that surge blocks heals
So I waste the absurde amount of heals of para charge

[onyx crystal]

[haughty haven]

[forest ferry]

Well it's BP clemont

[sturdy glen]

Ah…

Then ok I guess…

[forest ferry]

I actually can't slot regular clemont for my run

He's too shit to justify a slot and I am already running a offtype unit

[onyx crystal]

Do you think Red, Nemona, ssElesa will score higher?

[forest ferry]

Well red never gets to max kekwalk in that comp so doubts on that

[onyx crystal]

if you have no def buffs I just assume the 1st sync is going to KO everyone.

at high strength

[atomic rain]

i dont even have 15

bruh

[forest ferry]

You can use damage guard from nemona to soak hits maybe?

[atomic rain]

well its not like getting 180k is impossible with an offtype

but still thats kinda bad

[haughty haven]

2/5 Nemona has TM Refresh

So maybe fish for that to have a lot of ramp and shield

[onyx crystal]

gonna love to see that run, where someone gets 4x mpr on nemona + ssElesa breathtaking

[haughty haven]

Hey at least i’m on vacation when High Score happen

Maybe try to reset for that

[forest ferry]

eleSSa TM and nemona TM MPR fishing sounds like hell

Also what's the chance to hit a -2 evasion enemy?

[onyx crystal]

my best guess to this stage, buff defenses, and hit hard. Which is why getting +6 def from Clemont and using Red+Nemona was my initial thought.

[haughty haven]

40% flinch from Nemona too

[forest ferry]

Rng galore

[haughty haven]

Hey i can do almost everything for my score

||Still 13/20 4 star Marlon||

[forest ferry]

Other than volkner stage, all my runs are low rng run

Oh yea
Marnie run is surge TM MPR

[onyx crystal]

Why not switch Surge & Potionchu? Or is he there for Para for N?

looking at potionchu and being reminded it has 4 seperate Hostile Environment nodes (tied to moves instead of yellow)

[forest ferry]

Yes para for N

[sturdy glen]

Anabel team is slow af
What will generate the bars?

[forest ferry]

I wanted to run eleSSa

And then realised eleSSa only has 20% chance to para

Well my good tanks are all electric weak

[onyx crystal]

oh wait, can't use surge there because clemeont hates tech

[forest ferry]

SSmorty moment

Why is he not rock weak

[haughty haven]

🕶️

[forest ferry]

This works, somewhat

Tho it only works for 5/5 zekrom

[haughty haven]

Do you try this team ?

Gauge seem bad for long battle

[forest ferry]

Well

I don't have any other choice

Only other viable option seems like Aaron

Who is also kind of slow

I can try it out

[onyx crystal]

Cynthia?

[forest ferry]

Gauge seems plenty fine thanks to surge carrying

dony mind me being dead in sync, I am just using presync params

[haughty haven]

After seeing this, i want to do Last Word meme

[forest ferry]

I didn't even pick charging infliction but due to 6 gauge access it seems fine

Tho the team completely suks in -2 gauge condition

[main pulsar]

@onyx crystal show marnie pics pls

[onyx crystal]

[main pulsar]

[onyx crystal]

I have all my teams and grids in there: https://imgur.com/a/4k70Noc

[main pulsar]

Theeenk you

[forest ferry]

Not picking pep rally on surge?

[onyx crystal]

idt ash needs it, pretty fast

[forest ferry]

Oh he's with ash

[main pulsar]

He’s with the 2 bar boi

[onyx crystal]

I just realized he can't be with ash on clemont.

🫠

[main pulsar]

Why sat

[forest ferry]

-80% stat on techs

[main pulsar]

O

Rough

[forest ferry]

The stage also has Swift

So you can't rly use debuff techs for pre sync either

[spark storm]

they almost all have aoe moves

[forest ferry]

Well post sync yes

Some stages don't have aoe pre sync

[spark storm]

all have strong moves, almost all have aoe, sides have giga impact this will definitely be a pain

i already see the resets because support is oneshot on turn 2

[main pulsar]

I wish ssac was omnitype

[forest ferry]

Most of those are probs post sync moves

Only threatening aoe move is discharge

And surge is the one with annoying st moves

[haughty haven]

All stage have 1 side mon only use Single target move after Mid died ( Except Surge )

[mortal timber]

[whole plank]

My mc is still 3*

[elfin glacier]

What would be a good grid for 3/5 nemona for this event?

[onyx crystal]

I'm using this. This is the typical 3/5 grid, except it has Trip Up setup SST Red.
If you're not setting up cakewalk, then take Static Shock 5 instead.

actually this is better: (i'm just using Trip Up instead of SS5)

[cyan tusk]

Im going with this too

[sturdy glen]

@onyx crystal has been already reviewed N as BP surge partner?

[onyx crystal]

ATK, def, and speed, paralysis. All things he wants that Sonia also provides.

[sturdy glen]

I mean… for me it’s not good because his speed boosts are too slow

[onyx crystal]

Whose on the N team?

I think Sonia makes up for it by consuming little gauge.

I’m considering Elesa (Classic) or Sophocles (Togedemaru) as a paralyze / flinch option.

[sturdy glen]

No I mean BP surge partners
You put N, Marnie and Elesa
I don’t agree on the first one

[onyx crystal]

Well I don’t see him making into the top 5 teams unless your lacking Ampharos or Zapdos.

[main pulsar]

Speaking of my sonia is finally 3/5

Woooooo

I’m so ready

[onyx crystal]

I plan on deleting that recommended partners category that’s in the grading sheet, I was spitballing ideas mainly.

[sturdy glen]

Ok thanks

[forest ferry]

He'll make it into teams unless you have atleast 2 out of nemona/zapdos/ampharos

[crude iron]

do you guys think if i was to use a third electric dps in the event, that Raichu Hau and NC Blue would be worth using together? contemplating using Hau or not when the event drops but idk if he'd be able to nuke properly when they arent electric weak

[timber bronze]

how will u get Nemona

[full lark]

Wow, you backread far for that. That was posted a few days before Nemona released

[rapid pebble]

Correction: how did you get Nemona?

I did 1 11 multi

Wish i could get her to 3/5 before event though

Unfortunately will have to use her at 2/5

[onyx crystal]

Like Hau and an Eggmon? Seems pretty low damage overall. It may get a decent score none-the-less.

[crude iron]

I meant the base hau and something for a third

[onyx crystal]

against who

[crude iron]

Doesn’t one of the stages demand special damage?

[onyx crystal]

Marnie's

At the moment. I'm using ssHau + nyVolkner vs Marnie.
My base Hau is with Ash vs Clemont.

vKris would be a good choice, but I don't have her.

[crude iron]

my electric box is very restrictive

[onyx crystal]

Can't really know till we see how the point climbing goes, not sure about reaching 10k by the end.

[crude iron]

im personally just aiming for the 180k if i can reach it, since its a type im lacking favs in im not bothering to hard push for medal

especially not in a type competing with the pikachus

[onyx crystal]

Yeah I'm sure this will be enough.

probably Hau + Clemont duo

[arctic quest]

What are the rewards for high score events?

[rough ginkgo]

^ rewards

[arctic quest]

Thank u

[hardy fog]

Anyone know how many electric codex book we get for the event for leveling?

[loud pumice]

At least 1 I think

[plush raven]

How are you guys building teams from now?

How do you know the teams we are facing?

[sturdy glen]

I don’t

Btw I always build them on the moment and then I change whatever I have to

[onyx crystal]

There is an infographic pinned here with what the opponents are, their gimmick, and a list of their passives/moves.

[onyx crystal]

Take a look at the pinned grading sheet. It has preliminary scores for units based on what the fights feature.

[onyx crystal]

This is my first draft. Though I’m worried about the lack of flinch in the Clemont / Marnie teams.
vs Lt. Surge Grids
vs Volker Grids
vs Elesa Grids
vs Clemont Grids
vs Marnie Grids

[sullen pier]

SS Hau fairy dps real

[forest ferry]

Just reset for perfect flinch from blue vs Marnie

[onyx crystal]

I think, aoe flinch might backfire...

I'll probably change my red grid, since Idt I'll be queueing T-Shock with staggering when Nemona is there for that purpose.

[forest ferry]

You can run potchu instead of hau vs clemont

And just heal up elesa whenever you take damage to make up for no flinch

[tardy quartz]

Ok but honestly: It works is the thing

I might need to plan a bit myself for this HS

[tardy quartz]

No Lithe on Blue for Marnie is an interesting choice

Para is gonna be difficult to deal with

[onyx crystal]

😮

I probably meant to drop Sync Think 9

Damn I really want Furious Brain now. :3

[viscid hawk]

repostin here, just preppin for the electric high score thing, am i good or nah

[forest ferry]

What's the target?

180k or medal?

Also share units from move level tab

Other tabs don't give much info

[viscid hawk]

anything i guess? Still trying to figure out how this event works

Think this wouldve been easier if i had thunderbolt red and ash lol

[forest ferry]

Well if your target is just 180k
You don't even need full electric roster

Can just run 2 electric units + 1 offtype unit to carry through

[viscid hawk]

ooh

[plush raven]

What do you guys think? Saw a couple of this teams here and modified them

[onyx crystal]

I believe your Marnie and Clemont teams are mislabeled.

[plush raven]

Should it be the other way around?

[onyx crystal]

Marnie reduces physical damage by 80%, and that team is all physical.

[plush raven]

Oh

Yeah

[onyx crystal]

Do you have Lodge Elesa?

[worldly parcel]

Elesa & Joltik

Acquisition:

Trainer Lodge

Alternates:

Elesa & Zebstrika
Sygna Suit Elesa & Rotom
Elesa (Palentine's 2023) & Togetic
Elesa (Classic) & Emolga

[plush raven]

Yes I do, where should I use it?

[onyx crystal]

Only issue with putting Lt Surge vs Clemont, is that, the battle is primarily Special Damage focused. And Lt. Surge isn't well suited for that battle.

[plush raven]

Oh nice, I’ll put lodge Elesa then

Any other suggestion?

[onyx crystal]

You'll need to move Volkner as well, because the Clemont battle nerfs Tech.

[plush raven]

This is my roster

[onyx crystal]

and Elesa doesn't support Sophocles very well.

[plush raven]

What would you do?

[plush raven]

Dang I don’t have some of these units

[onyx crystal]

Move Sophocles to the Elesa battle imo and drop Tech Surge.

[plush raven]

And what do u do with the third spot in the surge battle?

[onyx crystal]

Your surge team seems fine.

[plush raven]

Oh you meant Sophocles golem

[pliant temple]

Alright I think I've managed to organise my 15 electric pairs into decent teams if anyone can spot anything outstandingly wrong just hit me up

(only going for 180k and will obviously level up the Lvl1s)

[maiden canopy]

Even if you're going for 180k pts. only, I'm surprised your Ash and SST Red aren't EX-ed

[plush raven]

@onyx crystal

[pliant temple]

I never use them

[maiden canopy]

Ah ok

[pliant temple]

although if they struggle in the HS event I'm happy to EX them to get over the line....we'll see

hoping I won't need to

[forest ferry]

No terrain vs surge?

He has like no electric moves

[pliant temple]

hmmm

[forest ferry]

You can unga bunga with SSTred vs him

[pliant temple]

tbh Ash should be able to handle that without terrain, Hau will need the help a lot more

[forest ferry]

Well Marnie stage also has no electric moves

[pliant temple]

ooh wait hang on, now I see what you mean

[forest ferry]

Only electric sync

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1128052735967764621/1148591940342906880/edited_20230905_174106.jpg

Me running this

[onyx crystal]

I have holiJasmine in the Volkner battle to possibly boost Power Trip, and the fight is more mixed.
The elesa fight is more physical, so it's why have Sonia in the Elesa battle.

[pliant temple]

is anabel due to lack of a 15th pair or for kit?

[maiden canopy]

Not sure how I'll build mine and not sure if I'll get CBlue in time

[plush raven]

Will do that

[maiden canopy]

I plan on double candying my N

[onyx crystal]

I'm not sure about Volkner's final placement, but I have him vsVolkner rn.

[pliant temple]

definitely hoping to minimize overall investment

[forest ferry]

Not worth candying N with that roster

[pliant temple]

are y'all aiming high or just for 180k?

[plush raven]

@onyx crystal

[maiden canopy]

WDYM? Is he not good enough?

[forest ferry]

I'll just throw like 600 str and only 1 1 run

You have ash and SSTred already

Why invest on N just for 1 event

And you can't even run 5 tanks in electric HS unless you have a limited tank or nemona

[plush raven]

What if I do that?

[maiden canopy]

Well, I plan on probably doing top 1k

And if I get CBlue, my score will improve tremendously

[onyx crystal]

You need to add someone to the Clemont battle, because you have volkner twice.

[pliant temple]

I went over 300k for the water event and could have gone higher if I candied my 1/5 Eusine, but I didn't find it worth it

[onyx crystal]

[pliant temple]

idk about candying N just for this event

[pliant temple]

[maiden canopy]

I might use him for CS eventually

And maybe for Unova EBs too

IDK, I just want to reach a very high ranking this time

[forest ferry]

I mean
Unlike most modern units N is old
He nukes worse than elesa unless you get him to 5/5

[plush raven]

Dang, any suggestions?

[sullen pier]

gauge issue

[pliant temple]

SAGES WHAT IS WRONG 😭

[forest ferry]

If you have NCred or sssteven or etc those will score better than terrainless 3/5 N

He's that bad

[onyx crystal]

a lot

[maiden canopy]

Eh, I'll still use him anyways

[plush raven]

This is hard

[pliant temple]

fix me i beg

[onyx crystal]

Clemont it's sophocles (golem) that I'm sure what to do with

Elesa Zeb + N might be a better combo

[forest ferry]

It'd be better to run volkner in Marnie fight and zapdos in some other stage

All stages except surge and Marnie have electric moves

Well volkner ash zapdos should be funni

For Marnie

[onyx crystal]

SST Red + Sophocles + bpClemont -> vs Surge
Marnie + mcPika + LtSurge -> vs Volkner
Elesa + Sonia + ? -> vs Elesa
Hau + LElesa + Ash vs Clemont
Clemont + ssElesa + Volkner -> vs Marnie

[onyx crystal]

My initial thought was every point of damage counts, and since his damage is nerfed by 80% it might be not worth. But it does sound enticing, would need to look at the overall output.

[pliant temple]

I'm guessing Marnie is the main damage dealer there? I'll be honest, I don't love her kit and I'm not really excited by the idea of using her by herself - plus she's only 1/5, will that be enough?

loving the other teams though

[plush raven]

Guess this will be it

[onyx crystal]

cant use techs on clemont

[plush raven]

Don’t know how to fill that spot then

[onyx crystal]

and the marnie fight is primarily physical

[plush raven]

Cant do this then

[onyx crystal]

Swap Golem and Heliolisk

[plush raven]

Fuck

Any other changes? On the Marnie team?

Should I change lodge elesa and blue?

[onyx crystal]

rename the marnie team clemont and the clemont team marnie 😄

[plush raven]

But zebstrika is physical@and I thought I can’t use physical against Marnie

[onyx crystal]

oh right :X

[pliant temple]

oh goddammit Marnie is a tech and Clemont is anti-tech how did I miss that

[onyx crystal]

L Elesa can buff Heliolisk and Hau

it's just gonna be a pretty weak team overall

[maiden canopy]

Not sure how I feel about this

I'm gonna potentially EX a lot of these units

[onyx crystal]

Potion Chu vs Surge isn't ideal. (No Healing)
I'd recommend sonia/bp surge on Elesa instead of Joltik.
Electrode will die vs Clemont since he's tech.

also mentally it's more straining when everyone lists their teams in different orders... Put it in the order Lost has listed

[maiden canopy]

And if I do get CBlue, will he replace EleSSa?

[onyx crystal]

ncBlue is great for any stage really. He'd help Clemont, Hau, or vKris a lot.

[signal needle]

Fighting Elesa with Elesas

Remember Elesa is a physucal stage. Your Lodge Elesa wont do anyrhing

[forest ferry]

Well only viable Lelesa stage is clemont
Coz other stages are too physical focus

[maiden canopy]

So BP Surge with my OG BW2 Elesa?

[forest ferry]

Well surge has lithe and is a physical tank

So his best stages are Marnie or elesa
On paper atleast

Realistically he's too frail/lot of MPR rng to be a proper tank

[maiden canopy]

Well, he can almost fully set up for Elesa

+2 DEF/crit on TM

[forest ferry]

Well
Paralysis is not hard for electric types to begin with

You should realistically be pressing his TM over and over so you get atleast +5 before opponent syncs

[maiden canopy]

I mean, he does have Synchro Healing

[onyx crystal]

From what I recall during water HS, at high strength, it didn't really matter how much hp your support had left.
After they sync, your support was dieing, unless you flinched them. Should probably rewatch Misty, since Kriss lived longer there.

the important thing was not letting endurance be consumed before they sync

I remember just having to Reset if Nessa queued Razor Shell/Earthquake and it was against SS Blue, and he has +6 def and better bulk 🫠.

[main pulsar]

What’s a good number to shoot for

In terms of strength

[maiden canopy]

Depends on your units

[main pulsar]

They’re pree good

[maiden canopy]

If you have Red and Ash, then definitely over 500

[main pulsar]

And I’m gonna get off my ass and candy them

[main pulsar]

Wut bout for the non ash team

[maiden canopy]

Can potentially go over 500 depending on your units really

[main pulsar]

[onyx crystal]

gonna depend on how many stagger units you have spread out as well

[main pulsar]

Ah stagger strats

My favorite

[onyx crystal]

HS in a nutshell

[main pulsar]

Water was painful but not because of stagger strays

But because Elios way to raise crit is fucking stupid

Why do 70%

Also does red and ash bypass that since they do big dammy?

[chilly kayak]

I mean, that's not bypassing, it's just plain bruteforce

[main pulsar]

Bruteforce do be bypassin

That’s how the raiders do it

But also when is stagger worth it

For red

Cuz don’t you wanna press the shiny buddy move

[forest ferry]

SSTred capped out at str695 last event

As solo dps

Did it vs lana as well so I think I can replicate similar play vs surge

[spark storm]

Did 700

[main pulsar]

How does it work

[spark storm]

Just brute force

Spam buddy move and nuke

A flincher helps too

[main pulsar]

No like doesn’t red do the flinching

[forest ferry]

My sstred couldn't dps it hard enuff for 700

[spark storm]

No, to be the only dps at that much str he need a full nuke grid

Like this

[spark storm]

My red died at the end, it's crasher wake who did the last dps lmao

[main pulsar]

That’s wild

Why were u using sstred in last hs tho isn’t it less score

Cuz not x3

[spark storm]

Well that fight made me 61k points, and I didn't had any good dps left to make more

[main pulsar]

O

[neon ether]

Could someone give some pointers on prepping teams for this hs event

My electric pairs

[royal tiger]

what do you guys think? D:?

i'm just missing stuff on each team i guess.

VS Surge, VS Volkner, VS Elesa, and VS Clemont HUM

i'm hoping to just use Holiday Whitney on VS Elesa team for flinching and speed buffs

[main pulsar]

make ur elesa bigger

[onyx crystal]

Have you taken a look at the grading sheet? There are some suggestions about who you should use where. I also have a post here with my teams.
#1128052735967764621 message

[neon ether]

i did take a look, but i lack a significant amount of understanding in the specific stage mechanics and stuff so i dont have much confidence in the teams i put together based on that

[onyx crystal]

okay. let's assing some damage dealers first.
Make 5 team slots with electric gear in the meantime

[neon ether]

alr done

[onyx crystal]

So the TL;DR
Surge - Mainly Special with a Physical Side (no electric moves, good for terrain)
Volkner - Special with 2 physical sides
Elesa - mostly physical
Clemont - Special mainly
Marnie - Physical and special with no Electric moves, except the sync (so terrain good here)

[neon ether]

i see

[onyx crystal]

Put:
SST Red + Sonia on Surge
Jasmine + Lt. Surge + Sophocles... on volkner
Golem + Lt. Surge on Elesa
Ash + Hau + ssElesa on Clemont
Volkner + Clemont + ncBlue on Marnie

maybe need to shuffle

[main pulsar]

lets assing

owo

👀

[onyx crystal]

the volkner team is

[main pulsar]

context for what im saying im not just saying this lmao

[neon ether]

which surge for each

[onyx crystal]

Oh I forgot about Elesa.

Raichu on Elesa.
Electrode on Volkner

[royal tiger]

like, EX her? o_o?

[main pulsar]

i was referring to mr ramen

cuz its level 1

exing her isnt a bad idea tho

[royal tiger]

hum

[main pulsar]

also why is volkner get the wrost team

whats his gimmick

[royal tiger]

this is my current teams but no idea.

[onyx crystal]

no exing until after the event is like 7+ days in.

[main pulsar]

oh no gimmick

wild

[neon ether]

yeah ill level everything up when the time comes

btw i can also get any bp units if that changes things

[onyx crystal]

you want to put your terrain setters on Surge or Marnie. The others use electric moves.

[neon ether]

also im missing 3/5 on a lot of guys if that changes things

[main pulsar]

is it a bad idea to use terrain on them

if ur like ssred

[sullen kestrel]

I EXd base elesa marnie and N but I wanted to do that anyway so it worked out, did the same w may for water

[main pulsar]

or smthin

[royal tiger]

SST Red on Surge....
Volkner on Marnie? but i'm already using Ash/SS Elesa.. i guess?

[onyx crystal]

Terrain on the Elesa stage is a bad idea. Their moves will KO you instead.

that one is mostly electric

same thing for the clemont stage

and volkner 🫠

[main pulsar]

so

only 2 terrain allowed?

thats rough

[onyx crystal]

I mean you can use it, but you need to have it fade before they sync.

[main pulsar]

so just use volkner

[onyx crystal]

At high levels it's a wipe, but maybe for just the 180k rewards it's fine.

[royal tiger]

honestly

i can just use

Blue + Ash + something.

[main pulsar]

mmm

im goin big

[royal tiger]

Clemont i think

[main pulsar]

this is rough

[royal tiger]

and just

go all in 600

[main pulsar]

or i want to go big anyway

im not very good at these events

[royal tiger]

600 Strength on one of them.

[onyx crystal]

Can you screengrab the teams and tell me who you have in reserve?

[main pulsar]

:shuic

akfjasjfi

[royal tiger]

the rest will be 150 or something

or 200

depends on how much i wanna go for just 180k

[main pulsar]

ah i found it

no lie

though this was shuichi

[onyx crystal]

Heliolisk isn't very good. and no 3/5 expansion this month for him

[main pulsar]

xd

heliolisk tries to outheal anyway

[royal tiger]

i think i can do

[main pulsar]

would be really bad for high strength

[onyx crystal]

you can't outheal 0 hp 💀

[main pulsar]

overheal to overshield

[neon ether]

Elesa and zebstrika, elesa and joltik, mc and pikachu

[onyx crystal]

No ticket for Magneton?

[neon ether]

i do

which team to put on

[sullen kestrel]

Elesa probably

[onyx crystal]

before you buy him, do you have candies?

[neon ether]

yes

[onyx crystal]

(also don't buy him rn) I'm not responsible for unwanted sync pairs.

[neon ether]

nah i wanted him anyways tbh

needed some more def droppers

i meant to buy him the other day

[royal tiger]

okay. i tihnk that's it. @_@

electric huhu.

i could do Nemona + Clemont for Sheningans too...

so Clemont can nuke hard.

and Hau can have EX Lodge Elesa

[onyx crystal]

If you do buy him, put Magneton on Surge team.
Put Electrode on Surge Team.
Move Sonia to Elesa Team.
Remove Raichu from Volkner team.
Put Zebstrika on Volkner Team.

[onyx crystal]

Why aren't you using Marnie vs Volkner? Her Power Trip is supereffective against Rotom (mid).

you also have magneton listed twice

[royal tiger]

oh right

she's 1/5 though, she's fine there?

[onyx crystal]

yeah.

ssElesa is also weak to Marnie's crunch + snarl.

[royal tiger]

ooof.

[onyx crystal]

keep N and Sonia where they are

[royal tiger]

ooof.

SS Elesa can actually go for Clemont's team

just no idea where to put NC Blue then rofl.

[sullen kestrel]

Should I change anything?

[royal tiger]

I guess against Marnie? .-.

[sullen kestrel]

Oh yeah this is my entire electric roster besides mchu

[onyx crystal]

please label them for which opp, also put them in the order they appear in lost's graphic makes it easier to assess

[sullen kestrel]

Oh right, its in order

[onyx crystal]

Surge > volkner > Elesa > clemont > marnie

[sullen kestrel]

Yeah thats the order its in

[onyx crystal]

well, you can fight in any order, it's just confusing when 20 people show you their teams and it's in different orders

[sullen kestrel]

Fair

[onyx crystal]

you have a special tank vs Marnie which is a mostly physical stage

but I can see why since you're doing a pure physical team on clemont

[sullen kestrel]

Oh yeah I was just trying to use strikers for clemont

[onyx crystal]

well there's one special side on the marnie stage

[royal tiger]

i think thats it

i just have to EX Lodge Elesa and Raichu/Surge

i could also do SS Elesa against Surge too i guess.

(or SS Elesa on Clemont hum)

[onyx crystal]

it helps to write your reserve units below the ones in-use

[royal tiger]

o-o

[onyx crystal]

I'd consider regular sophocles with sst red, it has trip up to enable cakewalk

plus it can flinch

marnie is getting no attack buffs from blue, so you might need to move him

oh wait she can raise her atk based on her speed, so that does work

[royal tiger]

oh base sophocles

hmm

thanks sages

i'll poke once we start doing stuff i guess

btw

is the bonus "Flinching" ?

[onyx crystal]

more stat decreases
fewer attacks

bonus: unova or alola theme
inflict paralysis

only 3 of my teams tick unova/alola 💀

[royal tiger]

Unova and Alola

oh Unova/Alola Bonus. i see.

Alola though? oh hau.

[worldly parcel]

Conditions:

1: 3* Min Rarity | All Pairs (Limited Included) | Alola Region | Type‎

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Hau & Raichu
Sophocles & Golem
Sophocles & Togedemaru
Sygna Suit Hau & Tapu Koko

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Conditions:

1: 3* Min Rarity | All Pairs (Limited Included) | Unova Region | Type‎

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Elesa & Joltik
Elesa & Zebstrika
Elesa (Classic) & Emolga
N & Zekrom
Sygna Suit Elesa & Rotom

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[rough ginkgo]

Still less than the number of water types with the mc skill

[onyx crystal]

in both groups... it's 2 characters each

[gleaming raven]

oh hey, i accidentally made all my teams fit one of the conditions without even remembering it

neat

[lethal bridge]

Who would be smart to ex for the hs event?

[maiden canopy]

BP Clemont most likely

[lethal bridge]

Cool

[maiden canopy]

He helps against Volkner technically

Unless you have Ash

[lethal bridge]

The electrics I'm working with. Just don't actually know what the teams will be lol

[onyx crystal]

happy noises
but also people... 3rd bullet point in "What to Do" Pin.

[main pulsar]

sages does mc and pika have a good nuke or am i coping

[sullen pier]

their nuke is non existent

[main pulsar]

le epic

[atomic rain]

they have 0 sync modifiers and their dps is mediocre too

assuming paralysis and >33% hp

[rough ginkgo]

Insert #1011736960701829191 message copium

[sullen pier]

🅱️ Thunderbolt at home

[rough ginkgo]

🅱️underbolt but reusable

[maiden canopy]

Never mind

[main pulsar]

only reusable once huh

[maiden canopy]

I thought it was Nemona

But bleh, mistakes were made

[main pulsar]

[frosty glacier]

this is my tentative plan - any suggetions? I don't have any other Electric units
Lt Surge Volkner Elesa Clemont Marnie
SST Red Volkner Sonia Hau Ash
Sophoc Toge Clemont Helio Lt Surg Electrode Sophoc Golem MC Pika
Clemont Magnet HJasmine Elesa Zebstrika Elesa Joltik C Blue

[sturdy glen]

Can you put that in a mobile friendly way?

[frosty glacier]

Thank you!

[main pulsar]

These levels are triggering my ocd

[royal tiger]

rofl. give it time. they're probably still grinding Trainer's Lodge, and The Three Champion's event

[candid cobalt]

Does BP Sophocles do well offtype?

[sullen pier]

i think he needs EX to be usable at high strength

[candid cobalt]

Makes sense

Yeahh I think my electric roster isn't gonna do extremely well

But I'll try to make some teams

[onyx crystal]

that seems pretty good

[sullen kestrel]

Better than mine

[candid cobalt]

I'm just conflicted if I should use Marnie against Volkner...

Power Trip is helpful, sure but her sync does great offtype

jgjksh

[onyx crystal]

what's there to be conflicted about?

[candid cobalt]

I'm just gonna make some teams and then post them here

[candid cobalt]

I was just thinking if maybe I should use her against say Surge or Elesa

[onyx crystal]

I mean she'll be off-type on everystage for her sync.

[candid cobalt]

Oh true

[onyx crystal]

She can be used on 3 of the 5 stages relatively well, but it doesn't make much sense to not use her on Volkner.

may as well get double damage on power trip

[candid cobalt]

That does make sense

[candid cobalt]

Ok this is what I've got so far

Would be rlly nice if someone could give suggestions

[onyx crystal]

The surge fight blocks all healing, so Sonia is probably better suited to the Elesa fight, which will make it difficult for N and volkner there..

[candid cobalt]

Hmm right

My plan was to use Volkner against Surge since his sync doesn't get boosted by eterrain

I could probably swap BP Clemont and Sonia?

[untold rampart]

I'm only now looking at the rules for this. Fewer attack is really annoying because:
-Sonia wants to spam tackle to decrease defences
-Classic Elesa's whole thing is attacking to de-buff
-SST Red, Champ Blue, Both Haus, EX Strikers have AOEs
-Some Sync Pairs can only para with Hostile Environment

[full lark]

Yeah, I think the “fewer attacks” one is a min-maxer concern only. If you’re just going for the event rewards and don’t care about getting the medal then it’s probably not worth worrying about

[sullen pier]

in higher strength clears its nearly impossible to achieve the fewer attack multiplier

[haughty haven]

This too

[sullen pier]

how can you get to 126+ debuffs is still a mystery

[untold rampart]

Evasion and Accuracy?

[haughty haven]

And why our pairs

Not enemy pairs

[candid cobalt]

That makes zero sense

What do they want us to just keep getting debuffed by the enemies and then try to rebuff ourselves or smth

[main pulsar]

Thoughts?

Both score conditions look ass

[onyx crystal]

The last team doesn’t have a tank

And the vsVolkner team has 2 tanks

[main pulsar]

I feel like marnie needs the many stat buffs

Does she

Also the last team is the I have nothing left team

If I wanted to move the tank idk what to replace

[onyx crystal]

Move joktik to tank for ash. Swap electrode i guess

[main pulsar]

Hmm

Really wish I’d have blue for this

I have exactly 5 supports

Any particularly good eggmon supports or somethin

[onyx crystal]

Her TM raises her ATK based on her raised speed.

She gains speed from Aura Wheel or her 5/5 tile.

[main pulsar]

5/5 kek

But also

Doesn’t she want a lot of stats for power trip

[onyx crystal]

She just needs 11? I think

[main pulsar]

Oh it caps?

[onyx crystal]

Stored Power / Power Trip cap at 11 stat ranks.

[main pulsar]

So like

Is it just 6 attack 6 speed?

[onyx crystal]

Yea, crit counts as well.

[main pulsar]

Huh

Thats a lot less than I though

What does the base powerbecome

[onyx crystal]

5/5 Base with no grid goes from 15 to 180

[main pulsar]

I’ll take a 1/5 please

Uh so is that just 13* 12

[onyx crystal]

156

[main pulsar]

Ic

[onyx crystal]

It’s pretty good for a 2 gauge move

[main pulsar]

Hm

Electrode does absolutely nothing on that team with marnie

Ergh

[onyx crystal]

When your in Hangry mode it gets another +0.5

[main pulsar]

Eh?

Like 1.5x power?

[onyx crystal]

228 power

The .5 is additive, the x12 is done after

[onyx crystal]

Use togedemaru. It has a 60% chance to flinch.

[main pulsar]

[onyx crystal]

Put togedemaru with sstRed. Move Zebstrika into the team with Marnie.

Stalling the surge fight with flinch is good because you get no healing

Togedmaru also paralyses for red (if it’s not 3/5)

[main pulsar]

It isn’t but at the same time I do have many candy

And he’s not a bad investment

“Understatement”

[main pulsar]

How would you paralyze with red at 3/5 without losing a lot of dps?

[onyx crystal]

I think red’s gonna have to max early. Cause paralyzing 3 enemies one-a-time with nuzzle is gonna take too long

[untold rampart]

I'd like to hear some thoughts on these.
-There is no HP recovery so this is probably the best place for SS Elesa
-This seems like the stage where SST Red is the least nerfed
-All three of these Sync Pairs have paralysis (Champ Blue maxes Hau's DPS)
-Elesa & Zebstrika is my best Electric Striker barring...
-Ash is a Special Striker so he should work well for this last stage

[fair drift]

HS is approaching closer and I haven't planned teams

[chilly kayak]

I'm joining the "Main rewards only and dip" gang, so preplanning is just

[arctic quest]

Same

[main pulsar]

Anni has no content

This is the content

[full lark]

I preplanned it, but I also am fortunate enough to have a very flexible schedule and like putting teams together

Otherwise I’m just getting rewards and dipping out

[forest ferry]

I'll just do 1 attempt at start of event with pre planned teams at high str and dip

[chilly kayak]

yeah, like, I'll only have 2 full electric teams anyway, no way I'll be dealing with subpar supports having issues tanking

[forest ferry]

I am running 1 offtype tank coz electric tanks are all limited

[chilly kayak]

only good accessible one is Sonia, so yeah, it's not pretty

[forest ferry]

Well BPclemont is fine in terrain

[chilly kayak]

tbf Volkner can tank a bit as well, but again, no thanks

[forest ferry]

Volkner can't tank sync

[main pulsar]

Electric tanks are all ass

[forest ferry]

You still need defensive buffs

[maiden canopy]

Except Bluedos

[main pulsar]

Except for exactly 3 of them

[chilly kayak]

see someone fish for flinch RNG

[main pulsar]

Sonia blue and jasmine

Everyone else is scuffing it

[forest ferry]

Sonia,bluedos, BP clemont, Hjasmine

There's 4

[main pulsar]

Bp clemont is passable

[forest ferry]

Wdym passable

He has ER3

And double defenses

[main pulsar]

Idk what er is

[forest ferry]

Perfect built for surge

Check his grid

[full lark]

Electrorepulsion

Reduces damage taken while Electric Terrain is active

[shy flax]

Got 1/5 Marnie through the trainer lodge ticket. Is she worth using against Volkner?

[austere bane]

Electric

[onyx crystal]

Yes.

[full lark]

Supereffective Power Trip

[sleek crystal]

Is N usable against clemont at 1/5

[onyx crystal]

The clemont stage is probably going to use Joltik as the tank, which doesn't work too well with N. The answer to your question is more dependant on where you'll be using what Support.
N doesn't particularly mind any stage, except Marnie's.

[forest ferry]

1/5 N is pretty underwhelming for most part due to lack of good nuke

[fair drift]

Also he needs crit babysitting

[sleek crystal]

Well this is the closest I've got

Don't really have many electric types

[forest ferry]

Wouldn't run terrain vs elesa

Volkner for surge or Marnie

And run sophocles somewhere since he has flinch

[onyx crystal]

Lot's of posted teams sleeping on Sophocles.

Togedemaru specifically.

[sleek crystal]

I've got him gridded but he is 4*

Dunno where I can fit him

[onyx crystal]

Flinch by itself (with perfect rng) buys you 5+ turns.

[sleek crystal]

Which one

[forest ferry]

He's pretty much wake of this HS

Both have terrain
So point stands

[sleek crystal]

Which volkner for surge or Marnie?

[forest ferry]

^

[onyx crystal]

Trying to think of useful info to list here on the side:

[forest ferry]

I don't think such a list is needed

Electric has smaller roster

By day 2 or 3 everyone will just copy paste teams anyways

Best info would be what partners to run

Like nemona with SSelesa

Lelesa with MCchu

Etc

[sleek crystal]

Is this better?

[haughty haven]

Doesn’t Clemont hate Tech ?

[forest ferry]

-80% stats

And sides have Swift

[sleek crystal]

Isn't sophocles strike

Bp one

[haughty haven]

Nope, we’re worry for Volkner

[forest ferry]

Volkner will die in like turn 3

Also clemont is electric damage focus

[maiden canopy]

Not sure how I feel about my renewed team and not sure where to place EleSSa

[forest ferry]

So volkner is also unnecessarily boosting him

eleSSa just sucks

Unless you have nemona to ramp with

[maiden canopy]

If I had her, I would've used her

[haughty haven]

SS Elesa without Nemona is paper thin

[forest ferry]

She also has only 20% chance to paralyze

She's pretty underwhelming slot

[sleek crystal]

Sselesa just here for multiplier and +1 crit

[forest ferry]

Also
Why are everyone running tech units vs clemont

The stage has stat reduction vs techs

[maiden canopy]

I can prolly use her with SST Red for fast nuking shenanigans

[forest ferry]

[maiden canopy]

I have OG Surge for the Sp. Atk. drop, that's it

[forest ferry]

He then dies to Swift

And spl atk drop isn't gonna do much

They all tend to have 50% stat drop mitigation anyways

So its only -15% dmg at -6 stats

[haughty haven]

This should be ok right ?

[sleek crystal]

This?

[forest ferry]

Whel

[maiden canopy]

Hmmmmm, yeah, I'll put EleSSa on my Lt. Surge team and MCChu on my Clemont team

[forest ferry]

[forest ferry]

Who is dpsing vs surge?

Swap hau and soph

[sleek crystal]

Better?

[forest ferry]

Hmmmm wait
Hau has no crit buffs

I am dumb

Swap hau and BP soph

Problem solved

[sleek crystal]

better?

[maiden canopy]

I wonder if this is better now

I might go for like 700 or 800 STR with Red

[forest ferry]

Sonia's potions are wasted

[haughty haven]

Looking good

[sleek crystal]

So is this good

Ok

[maiden canopy]

Then what swaps should I make?

[sleek crystal]

Should I ex anyone

[forest ferry]

Sonia and BP clemont swap

Ash and clemont swap

[maiden canopy]

Oh, I just realized I don't have BP Clemont

[forest ferry]

Zapdos and BP surge swap

[maiden canopy]

Oh NVM I do

Am blind

[forest ferry]

Do the 3 swaps

And you should be fine

Filthy whale

[maiden canopy]

Well, ||I did get Blue from a daily discount by only spending less than a dollar||

These are the correct swaps right?

[forest ferry]

Looks better.... smth is still missing

Did you check if gauge is good for zekrom team?

Coz zekrom is slow as hell

[haughty haven]

N without Sonia 🐢

[forest ferry]

Well it's 1/5 zekrom

[maiden canopy]

2/5 EX and planning to 3/5

[forest ferry]

And I don't think 1/5 Zekrom better than BP soph

Well if you are 3/5ing swap zekrom and BP soph

[maiden canopy]

And what happens to OG Clemont?

[forest ferry]

Dunno what to recommend over him

[maiden canopy]

I still have OG Hau remaining if he's an option

[forest ferry]

I'd take piercing gaze accuracy drop over whatever hau is trying to pull off

Fwiw he has nuke

[maiden canopy]

I might just place Hau on my Clemont team

[forest ferry]

Hau is not going to be better 3rd slot than MCchu

Potionbot with endure is only replaceable by flinchbot imo

And there's pretty much none among strikers/supports

[maiden canopy]

Would it change if my Hau is EX-ed?

[forest ferry]

If you are syncing with hau then maybe

I doubt it's much better than BP soph syncing with a potionbot to keep team alive a bit longer

[maiden canopy]

I might actually replace MCChu and EleSSa

Or swap them rather

What do you think?

[forest ferry]

Well
eleSSa has no para chance

20% is too low

And no potions

If you are resetting hard for low damage moves from enemy, she might be better due to ramp.....

Eh potchu still better

Potions are easier to fish for

Coz after sync, MCchu soaks up an extra move which equates to elessa's ramp

And it'll be low reset run

[maiden canopy]

If I had H. Jasmine, where would she go?

[forest ferry]

Replaces BP surge

Coz he sucks

[maiden canopy]

Hmmmm ok

Or maybe I'll put OG Elesa on my Clemont team

And Hau goes to my Elesa team

[forest ferry]

I am running smth like this

[maiden canopy]

Well, I can fish for paralyze from Discharge

[forest ferry]

Discharge is low chance no?

Coz aoe shaft

[maiden canopy]

15% to all enemies

[forest ferry]

Yea
Low chance

[maiden canopy]

Well, my Blue is 2/5

And that has HE2 for 45% AoE paralyze chance

[forest ferry]

Ah
Then it should be fine

Well I'd still rather boost strong capable units rather than weak units

Elesa with rebuff can easily do 70k+ pts

[maiden canopy]

Hau's damage is low and his set up is pretty long, but C. Blue just massively helps him

[forest ferry]

I can't see hau pulling that range

[maiden canopy]

Actually, I have OG Sophocles, so he can use Nuzzle to paralyze

[sleek crystal]

Wait wrong reply sorry

[sleek crystal]

Should I be exing anyone for the high score event(180k pts only)

[forest ferry]

Hmmm well soph has to nuzzle in that comp anyways

Coz blue would likely proc flinch and trigger resilience

[crude iron]

I was always told to wait till events live to ask that

[forest ferry]

For 180k pts EXing wouldn't be necessary

[crude iron]

And your box is a lot better than mine lol

[forest ferry]

It's less than 40k pts per stage

Doable at < 250 str itself iirc

[crude iron]

Mine literally only has nc blue and n zekrom for electric pairs. How hard will it be to do two electric teams rather than three electric teams for most of the stages?

[forest ferry]

If you have NCblue you are already in better spot than most playerbase due to being able to run full electric comp

[maiden canopy]

So this will actually be my comps then

[forest ferry]

Electric only has 4 salvagable F2P tanks

[forest ferry]

Just check your clemont comp for gauge issues, otherwise it looks fine

[maiden canopy]

OG Elesa can boost her own speed anyways

[forest ferry]

Coz lelesa is bitslow

Due to wanting to press leech life

I remember having to deal with gauge issues when I used lana with Kris last event

Needed a bit mgr rng

[maiden canopy]

Hmmmm, I have enough tickets to EX another unit, my 3 choices are OG and Lodge Elesa and BP Surge, who should I give it to?

[onyx crystal]

no reason to ex stuff before the event even starts

[forest ferry]

I'd say OGelesa ex pretty mandatory anyways

Others might depend on how the event goes

OG elesa is just Kris of this event

[onyx crystal]

I have a feeling Volkner is gonna be Main Tank, so one of the supports might be dropped for super high teams, probably bp surge.

[forest ferry]

Volkner can't tank sync

Super high teams ditch surge even without running volk as tank

[maiden canopy]

Even without Leech Life, I still have MCChu to Potion anyways

[forest ferry]

BP clemont for clemont, sonia for volkner, nemona ramp for surge, hjas for Marnie,blue for elesa

Smth like that

[maiden canopy]

And maybe I might do some Unyielding shenanigans

[onyx crystal]

Hmm, I don't have her in my setups.

[forest ferry]

Impossible

She has better nuke than 3/5 zekrom

[onyx crystal]

Mines 5/5.

[forest ferry]

Ah

Static boost moment

[onyx crystal]

#1128052735967764621 message

[forest ferry]

Wow
Hau vs clemont instead of MCchu 🤔

Is your ash 1/5 or smth

[onyx crystal]

He's 3/5.

[forest ferry]

Then why
He's clearly dead weight

[onyx crystal]

I just figured the Spirit would help, but I guess Potions would be better.

[forest ferry]

For volkner fight, how is Marnie clearing sides?

I assume nuke on sides and ptrip mid

[onyx crystal]

Relying on flinch to extend clean-up.

[forest ferry]

[onyx crystal]

It does look overall low damage. I'll have to see once the event is live.

[forest ferry]

Nice reset hell comp

Well I just shoved elesa for that stage with Marnie

So elesa nukes while Marnie cleans mid

Missing 1 or 2 ptrip would be fine anyways

[sturdy matrix]

There's a dark weak opponent?

[forest ferry]

Coz Archie comps often ran 2nd dps and Marnie is doing similar role

Yep

Volkner's mid

[onyx crystal]

I also have a 1/5 elesa (classic) that I'm not sure where to shove

[sturdy matrix]

1/5 classic elesa is a pretty solid debuffer

Plus can still summon electric terrain

[onyx crystal]

this or something with power reserves?

[maiden canopy]

And also, on my Elesa team, since my Hau and OG Sophocles have low base HP, having C. Blue to heal them is practically convenient

[onyx crystal]

Could opt out of Static Shock 8 on ash and do something like Pinch Push or Thunder:PR5

[maiden canopy]

You mean smth. like this?
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/26400/2500?s=3&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=13010602&g=AAECAwQFERQVFxobKCssLS4

[onyx crystal]

Yeah, to that extent. Not sure how how effective it will be to remain in Red.

[forest ferry]

Thunder PR5 not worth

Pinch push maybe

Nuke often carries hard for high str run rather than dps

[maiden canopy]

Hmmmm, I wonder if I should replace my OG Clemont for OG Surge

[cyan tusk]

And trip up is perfect to help sstred setup his nuke saving energy on grid

[gleaming raven]

I think this is what I'm planning on doing team wise, third team is almost certainly overkill but meh

[main pulsar]

Pls come event

Let me grind you

[livid tusk]

OwO

[mellow thistle]

Sonia. N. Volkner

HJasmine. Ash. Hau

NcBlue. NY Volkner. Clemont

BPSurge. Elesa. Bpclemont

SSElesa. Bpsoph PotionChu

Gauge looks painful atm and the last teams are looking like a pain

Any suggestions?

[lethal bridge]

Uh pray

[cunning shore]

I have no clue what the stages are

Imma go in yolo

I want to test 1000 pts Red, Ash and Blue 🗿

[maiden canopy]

And then suddenly your tech unit dies in one shot even with +6 defensive stats

[cunning shore]

IT'S WORTH A TRY

[stray dust]

I have no clue too but I only need 180k

[rain sierra]

The dreaded day is tomorrow. Time to low effort it

[mortal timber]

I'll be starting very slowly and very late, mostly after I get Palmer and officially the 18th

Busy days sadly

[grand perch]

Woo low effort

Let’s see if I can get 180k exactly

[hardy fog]

Where are you guys assigning your Volkner?

which stage?

LT Surge stage - so First Aid won't heal? is that right?

[red pendant]

I have...NO confidence in my roster

[sullen pier]

any form of healing has no effect

[sullen pier]

according to the grading doc, the best place to use Volkner is on Lt Surge stage

because he has no Electric move

[hardy fog]

yea Im already putting sst red there so dont want to waste it

[sullen pier]

Marnie is also a good stage to use him because she also has no Electric move aside from the sync move

but his damage is lowered by 80%

[hardy fog]

I see

Im just going to read through the whole document before I ask more questions 😂

have you got your team sorted Gak?

[sullen pier]

i havent planned yet

[hardy fog]

Im so confused about Morpeko lmao, so what are like the first 3-4 moves to make it optimal.

[hardy fog]

Is 1/5 N better than 3/5 Bp Soph? Or am I tripping? Seems that way on Pomatools

[candid cobalt]

Uhhh I'm using Volkner in the Surge stage since Surge doesn't have an electric type sync

[candid cobalt]

Normally I tend to use Aura Wheel for a couple turns then use Marnie's TM when she's in Hangry Mode since that gives crit

After that just keep using her TM until she has maxed crit and spam Power Trip

Or you could just pair her with BP Surge to max out crit and stuff

Man I still need to adjust my teams

[hardy fog]

cool cool

[hardy fog]

I dont get why Clemont is A against Volkner lol

where as Soph is B

[sturdy glen]

Clemont is immortal thanks to para charge, unless one shot
Also speed debuffs are aoe unlike soph

[candid cobalt]

I assume it's since Clemont has a more reliable nuke too

[red pendant]

...err...who wants an EX more, a 2/5 N or a soon-to-be 2/5 BP Soph?

[candid cobalt]

I would say N

[hardy fog]

I see so Clemont can just spam Pcharge to survive? it wont be spamming electroweb I guess

[candid cobalt]

Oh you'll have to spam electroweb at the start

[hardy fog]

Vs volkner? what good would that do?

does he speed multipliers?

[candid cobalt]

Wha

Well Clemont has cakewalk

Also whaddya mean by what good would Clemont be against Volkner?

[hardy fog]

well so far I have it mapped like this

I guess Im trying to figure out how Soph can be "A" for 3 stage while Clemont is C/A/C.

because it seems like they are quite similar

in their role

[maiden canopy]

What surprises me is that move level on your Ash

[candid cobalt]

Maybe they don't have a lotta striker candies

[maiden canopy]

When there's 1 year to do it?

[candid cobalt]

Honestly good point

[hardy fog]

but do you need to candy it if you are just spamming B bolt?

[candid cobalt]

Well u can only use it once

[hardy fog]

I mean

[candid cobalt]

So I wouldn't call that spamming

[hardy fog]

spamming as in spamming over the course of a year

lol

once a fight

[candid cobalt]

At 1/5 his damage isn't bad

But yeah at 3/5 that's where it really ramps up

[maiden canopy]

And also Trainer Sync Redemption allows for funny plot armor stuff

[candid cobalt]

Would honestly help a ton for survivability and damage

[maiden canopy]

Exactly

[candid cobalt]

Oh yeah I wanted to ask

[red pendant]

I only have 2 Striker Candies

[maiden canopy]

Last year or right now?

[red pendant]

and I always want to keep one candy of a type on standby

Right now

[candid cobalt]

Does anyone have any suggestions for my teams (I'm planning to change my Surge team but I'm a bit conflicted on my other teams)

[red pendant]

Anyway, I can only give out one of the two strike candies

[candid cobalt]

This is my electric roster

[red pendant]

So at this point, would there even be a point in giving Ash only one move candy?

[hardy fog]

according to the ranking sheet Sonia is no good for Surge haha

[maiden canopy]

Yes, he has more survivability at 3/5 and his B Thunderbolt gets significantly stronger

[red pendant]

and if not, who would it be better suited for then?

[hardy fog]

potion is useless

for Surge

[maiden canopy]

He gains Trainer Sync Redemption, which give him extra healing and damage guard

[candid cobalt]

Yeah that I'm aware which is why I said I'm changing

[true sparrow]

As a rule of thumb, don't candy units from 1/5 to 2/5 if you cannot or doesn't plan to get to 3/5 in the near future

[red pendant]

...well, people constantly tell me to bring Ash to 3/5

But I dunno...outside of the Brock EBE, Ash is already good enough at 1/5

[hardy fog]

that team for stage Elesa is brave haha you are nuking with Clemont that is boss

[maiden canopy]

Ash is literally one of the strongest units out there and I don't not see the point in candying him unless you hate him

[candid cobalt]

Yeah I don't really have any other units tbh

[true sparrow]

There are plenty reasons to candy him

[hardy fog]

imo if you will have electric terrain BP Clemont is solid

with electrorepulsion

[true sparrow]

If you want or the reasons apply to you is a different topic

[red pendant]

Other sync pairs needing the candy more than Ash

I'd say that is a good reason

[maiden canopy]

Like who?

Just wondering only

[red pendant]

I mean...one example would be N
Ash is already good enough at 1/5, but N needs to be 3/5 to become good

Generally, when it comes to candies, I prioritize sync pairs that need candies in order to be "less bad"

[hardy fog]

re: candy. I think you are constantly asking yourself the question: do I want to invest in an already broken unit or do I want to spread the love for balanced

I guess thats where Im at with NC Blue. just seems extra to put 2 candies on it

[true sparrow]

Do you plan on using N if you candy him?

[maiden canopy]

LMFAO

[maiden canopy]

Well, I do, not only here, but also in CS

That's why I plan to 3/5 him immediately when I get 3 more candy coins

[candid cobalt]

N supremacy

[maiden canopy]

Well, and also the reason why I want to use him is because of a certain incident that happened in lodge

[red pendant]

I don't know tbh...

[candid cobalt]

I got him to 4/5 in the lodge Pokefair scout so I'm glad