#High Score
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he has acc buffs surprisingly
Which Stage is best for Ash
Yea but thunder suk accuracy already
true
Whale roster runs sshau and SSTred vs marnie and surge
So ash goes to either of the 3 stages
I'd prefer volkner coz evasion wouldn't work on him
But he's equally strong in all 5 stages
Doesn’t he have piercing gaze
NYvolk?
I think he does
he buffs accuracy
Nvm
Piercing Blows probably doesn’t bypass the round parameters
so the evasion doesn't bother him too much
How does accuracy tiles but accuracy buff scale vs evasuon buffs?
just did a quick glance on Eggmons...... honestly argue all of them as F
they will not survive long enough, and all they can really do is paralyze
Yeah the electric support eggmons suck
....which we have other units for
I wish supp electrode had actual aoe spdef buffs
Okay C for MCchu on all stages is just slander
He has potions
And is a striker
With endurance
MCChu has utility
was about to say that
He suks vs surge
Nemona is S for surge A for all stages other stages except Marnie
2nd tank MCchu with endure-Potion-Unyielding 
SAAAD 
anything for Hau?
But Nemona not about dmg, she like flinch-ramp-shield-gauge-free move
- sync accel
curious as to why Hau is C on volkner when he has evasion.
Surge and clemont
OG Surge 
Surge has Sides doing rock slide and discharge, Clemont is Swift/Electroweb/paracharge/discharge
well, i g2g for now.
I think I may need to consider adding plus and minus grades. Since seeing S across the board is harder to tell which fight the specific pair accels in.
that's fair, but so far, i'm happy with how it's looking like
partners might be subjective though depending on stage

Well electric is
Either you are S or F for most part

Looks at all that S vs surge
and we can always go back on it in the future
Actually sshau
Just B vs volkner and elesa
Terrain is painful to go around
Since he sets on entry
Sages: 
also great work on discussing this @forest ferry
was fun!


does any stage have a non electric sync?
Think I'll run smth like this if I were to assume whel roster
Surge : SSTred, nemona, BPClemont
Volkner : marnie, ash, NCblue
Elesa: volkner, zekrom, hjasmine
Clemont : Celesa, elesa, Lelesa
Marnie: vkris, sshau, surge
Surge is steel sync
Marnie has electric sync
But all moves are offtype
lore accurate red vs surge battle 
Elesa seems like the easiest unless she hits extra hard
They all have similar stats
So no extra hard hitting
Moves itself tell which stage is annoying or not
Hardest hitting stage is clearly surge
With that flash cannon and stone edge 
While clemont being least annoying
Surge also has no healing 
Yea it's just like lana
Lana had hardest hitting moves ( unless you count Nessa EQ)
At least he doesn’t have Flinch move like Lana Icicle Crash 
Volkner seems to be the one replicating nessa's stage this time
Well there's iron head
Also
They all have gyroball
And surge buffs speed
So unless you run SSTred or any other spd debuffer
Buff spe will be anoying for red nuke
And stone edge
Think that unit is supposed to be octillery of this fight
You reset unless octillery buff stat iirc
Octillery goes HydroPump 
This time is Stone Egde Crit goooo
Soph also drops speed
Well
Shes not as amazing outside hs or lg
Due to too many tools
There's always better option for the specific role she's trying to do
Vkris does evasion hax better, pure sync Accel and damage by SSTred, flinch by so many existing units etc
What does she have?
Dmg-ramp-heal-shield-tank-flinch-debuff-nuke
And she is not best at anything


Shes a great 3rd slot in multiple team content coz of it
Maybe her 3/5 powerboost will give her terrain
So that she can be miss.everything 
Oh yea
That

Oh god
They might actually do that
Since her nuke is already stronk
She doesn't need any other role specifically
Surge
I just exed all my supports too, will ex more dps when we can test
yall try hard this HS? 
Will try hard if I get zapdos 
not really, i plan to ex all my supports anyway, still gonna try my best tho, top 500 is good enough for me
already got the medal and i know i cant compete with 3/5 rat users so i just want to get all rewards
not all 3/5 rats owners are competitive tho, and mine are 1/5 
I am a rat owner
Only doing first attempt

I can't make full mono electric team even with rat
i only have 1/5 SST Red 
many 3/5 cerena, archie, eusine, sslys owners doing way less than my 1/5 water team
so i'm not really worry this time. you need to whale hard and also try hard for these kind of events
I have all rats at 3/5 but I see no incentive to go higher than 180k
Anabel is totally electric type
just bragging right
Going through rng hell for like what? 40 vouchers

yh personnally I did top 100 on water hs with only the 3 mf as limited (and ss blue) and one fight offtype
there's no pvp or anything competitive so this and LG are the only places people can flex 
Water I tried pretty hard
Couldn't hit top 100 
So not trying electric with worse teams
i'm sure if i use candy i can reach top 100 but nah, gotta save
Just gonna 330k or smth first attempt and then dip
nah that's fully for bragging rights
wait ex surge color is kinda nice 
He got the voltorb colors
I might swap around some units
But I doubt I am using anyone else new other than zapdos
I definitely can with this but do I want to go through rng hell? Heh no

Ash+zapdos alone can do 1000 str run
90% certain abt it
3/5 nemona right before anni 
Lucked out on her tbh
I got her from a daily pull too 
I posted my results in my pull for her back then in #gacha-and-flex , nearly dropped my phone back then 
Got her too 3/5
Let’s see if she can help me for this event 
Replace anabel with anything and do a lower difficulty, you'll get a better score that way
Maybe a speed Electric eggmon to setup Elesa syncs
Not really?
Coz it's harder to do lower score with no defensive buffs
I tried that last event and got less score

Volkner stage also needs both def and spl def coverage to tank hits
No eggmon has it
Else I'd try tank eleSSa
I doubt ur increased difficulty compensates for the difference between x2 and x3 but if u say u did it last time i believe u

300 str in x3 is same as 630 str in x2 from my experience
Both net close to 55k pts
Assuming that X2 team didn't get confusion and X3 got confusion
And since this time the condition is paralysis it's much easier to get that 3k score 
are all the sync moves Electric?
Surge has Steel sync
Asking cause Misty had an Ice sync, which made Rain safe to use against her, so I'm wondering if there's anyone in this one that can be safe for ET
the rest has Electric yeah
understandable, he spams Steel Beam
was mostly wondering if Marnie had Dark or not since I'm using SS Hau against her
yeah
I'll have ET up for most of the fight so I would have liked a Dark sync 
but I'm also running Blue with Overwhelm and Satisfied Snicker so it might not matter much with max defenses
those two passives would be great against Surge but it feels like a waste because Roost is useless against him
Marnie has electric sync
But no electric moves
You can use terrain for that stage and time it long enuff to leave before sync
Alright now that I’m done with Fire CS I guess I should make electric teams lol
Electric HS > fire cs
Hoping for some advice. I'm going to pull NC Blue as my 5th support. Do you see BP surge or Holiday Jasmine 1/5 being good upgrade for any of these support? I can candy Lodge Elesa as well.
Well BPJasmine is a very good defensive offensive support with her seun and on grid PMUN/SMUN she’s just a solid support you don’t really use supoorts to help other supports but
Volkner + clemont is good because he has electropropulsion 3 (40% dr)
bp jasmine
:thonk:
They mentioned HoliJasmine and saw BPsurge I got mixed up
Holiday Jasmine 1/5 is busted good
Ok so who would I replace as one of the support
Replace in what sense?
I mean I'm asking in preparation of high score. Is she going to significantly improve my support roster above
I'm unlikely going to sink candies in her I guess even at 2/5 she gets a lot more
So maybe..
You'll absolutely shove in Lelesa vs clemont and BPclemont vs surge
Other supports gonna depend on what dps you gonna run
alright finally have some time to sit down and brain storm muh teams lol
Time to stare at these 17 units for hours before dividing them into 5 teams
2 real losers
… why did I even EX Surge LMAO
It's going to be hard to adjust to fewer attacks
Although it makes more sense combined with timing
I wonder if the first one was a mistake
6 supports so that’s a goddamn blessing
Rip roster not looking good
Oh I don’t mind I’m just aiming for 180k
I already got the medal from water thankfully
Wait
Oh right the free ticket to get Marnie isn’t here yet lol
I forgot
Alright temporary placeholder 180k teams ready. Silver’s just there to keep the seat warm for Marnie haha
Better use Jasmine with an EX Striker
On type i mean
Silver and Sonia is a good conbo too
OK im dumb
Its never on type 
Yep Marnie placeholder
Cause he's incredibly based.
is it worth possibly EXing any of these three for the event, im hoping for 180k but im 100% expecting to fail that goal cause i dont have any limited electrics (only gonna have Zekrom, MAYBE nc blue if i decide to grab him but im trying to stop my temptations)
plan to ex N as soon as i get him from ticket cause favoritism, but doubt im gonna do any other dps ex for electric type till a new elec fav drops
(think i might have lodge elesa's dupes, i cant remember, havent updated the lodge pairs in a while)
Better to wait until we have the refined list for the HS to be sure to EX only what needed for 180k
But good choises will prob be Hau, OG Elesa and BP Sophocles
maybe some more supp EX if you want (I'm a supp simp, so all supp are EXed...)
im prob gonna be trying to avoid exing non-supports other than zekrom in this type, cause id get a lot less use out of a non-fav dps ex than a non-fav support ex
decide a week into the event if your resources are limited
i wouldnt call my resources THAT limited (PU icon is just number of EXs can do at a given time)
technically i still have 1 strike candy but i went ahead and marked as 2 cause 19 candy coins 
whens high score
it's in the pins, sept 14
wow so late
glad to be of service 🫠
I think they meant that hs is late this month, not your reply 
Should I EX anyone else among these pairs or are the ones already promoted enough?
What are their move levels?
All the EX are 3/5+ except for CElesa, Marnie and Nemona which are 1/5
If I manage to get enough resources I plan to 3/5 Nemona, but I’ve only one universal candy as of now
I think you are fine for both rewards and medal
you are more fine than me and I'm confident in 300k
Thank you everyone!
still trying to pick 3 more sync pairs to EX for this High Score event...
who should I give the EX to and why?
wait for the event
the wait is killing me ;-;
Are you going for 180k pts or as high as possible?
medal
even if you ex some more units you still have to do the stages multiple times and keeping track of your score throughout the event
Well medal gonna depend on how the event goes
Last event went for 230k+
I doubt electric gonna have higher requirment due to being top heavy
Wait is worth it unless u want to waste extra resources
also even if we tell you who to ex and you end up not using them is not gonna end well
out of those probably N if you plan to 3/5 him with the free ticket
for supports i would ex all 3 clemont, elesa and surge. first 2 take priority because more defensive
but just wait till we have some discord leaderboard
copy their teams, make some changes and decide to ex later
yeah i just notice that
Marnie also has PT to beat down volkner
While I'm at it electric high score is about 2 weeks from now
So better stay waiting
I pretty much ex'd every electric unit except BP soph

I wouldn't struggle for PUs like I did with water HS
after pulling for MF and using my general tickets my PUs stash is healthy again
my Zebstrika hit 5/5
honestly, yeah, I'd rather pick Marnie than a N dupe
because at least then I'd have a wider selection of sync pairs to choose from
im going for Marnie
because I feel like N will come back much more
Raihan might be the best choice but I like him the least so
I already have Raihan and N
I may bring him to 3/5 with candies at some point
but knowing my roster, there are prolly sync pairs who want the candy more than N
3rd bullet point in the main explanation pin:
yeah, which is why I held off candy-ing N
It was in general, since I saw some early conversations talking about it.
No rats but I'm pretty happy with my supports so I'll see how far I can go with these 
I'll invest in SS Hau when needed 
Just ended up brainstorming with some friends. Would you mind sharing Anything you’d switch/adjust/modify? Considering all electric units available, I’m not completely happy with a couple of teams so I’m all ears
Just a quick k question for the veterans. Would you replace any of these with BP Surge for HS?
Base on the pinned chart it's only competing with Sonia. So I guess it won't be better.
On the other hand I saw Holiday Jasmine competing with BP Clemont for the support spot. Do you guys think 1/5 Jas would be better than BP Clemont?
Whenver I've tanked with him, he usually reaches first aid rather quickly. The problem with ssElesa, is I don't see her tanking very long. I believe the strat with ssElesa is to use Nemona + Red vs Surge so you accel the countdown a lot. At least that is what a lot of people are concluding so far.
Supposing I use all 15 electric types and only aiming for 180k, 200 strength is enough right?
sa elesa is an evasion tank primarily from what i can see
cuz her defenses are very high but has very low hp to compensate
though this can also be attributed to her nature as an offensive buffer somewhat
I think 250 or so, possibly. I forget what it was for water.
Thanks
Thanks Sage. I’m not following. Maybe my question wasn’t clear. I wonder if I should get Bp surge to replace any of my support. But on the chart he only have 1 favourable match up and he is competing with Sonia. So I guess not worth it.
who are you using vs Surge?
Prob sst red ssElesa and Sophocles base on chart
Hmm I'm looking at the dmg for Volkner and Hau. Considering them as dps. But they seem to do lower than Clemont. Would that little dinosaur be better as the nuker /main dps? Don't have that many choice lol
No, no, clemont maybe
Ye exing strikers better for u
Acquired blue, I can consider myself ready for this event 
still gotta candy mine and decide who's paired with him
Should i ex Hau ARaichu or Elesa Zebstrika?
The other 4 EX dmg dealer i have SST Red 1/5, Ash 3/5, N 1/5, and will grab Marnie 1/5 later 
I'm pretty sure zebstrika is a way better ex lol

Hau ex is better on type in general
While Elesa EX gives her lots of utility
Outside of this event i mean
I'm looking at the pinned post.
Lodge Elesa's best match up is Clemont. Is there a reason why you put her with Surge? I'm guessing to get Cakewalk maxed out sooner.
SS Elesa seems to only have 1 "A" match up. Which is Lt Surge. She has a "C" match up for Clemont. What is the strat here? Just finish fast?
Volkner have a "B+" match up vs Marnie but S match up for Lt Surge. But I guess since you have Nemo there, he seem to do better against Elesa and Volkner.
I'm just wanting to know the rationale and just reading off the chart 😅
Lodge elesa gives only spl def buff to team immediately
And clemont is the only stage that's purely special focused
So that's lelesa's best match up
Sselesa is pretty underwhelming in general
Unless you run her with nemona and rush the stage
As for volkner, I actually did argue for S or A vs Marnie
But sages and linkable valued flinch more than terrain
I see Yo Blaze since you are part of the author would you check my roster?
I mean even a quick geez and your comment would be appreciated
I just used the chart and allocated them base on what I have
The rankings in itself are only initial impressions for supposed units
Like if you have a wide roster, your priority might shift completely on where to run which unit
Like if you have SSTred, volkner becomes best in slot for Marnie stage
But if you don't have SSTred, it's best to use volkner in surge fight instead
Once the event starts, the ratings will change noticably
I didn’t have a look at the chart honeslty I was just trying to start setup some stuff. Lodge elesa is there to setup cakewalk so I can grab full power on sstred’s grid and yes, the strat with ash is to finish it up fast. I guess Clemont is going to be the worst with Lt surge bc no tech means no ET (if not NY VOLKNER)
Any tech is instantly F tier vs clemont
You can't even bring em for pre sync utility
Coz sides have Swift

Why is Hau just straight B for every stage lol
I’m making a couple of adjustment actually bc I guess SSElesa’s best partner is Nemi with her tm
Coz hau is mid
Im going for the tm mprs
Yep, if you run nemona, eleSSa is godly for HS
You can just rush with 3 syncs before opponent even gets to sync
Let me send an “updated version”
I wanted to ask something not sure if you can answer.
When I put Zekrom on poma tool, and I add -defense, the damage didn't change. Is it because of piercing blow?
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
The big 6 digit numbers don't change
But the small numbers in bottom do
Coz the small numbers are the actual damage you see
o O
While the big 6+ digit number is just raw value
That’s it, I still have a spare spot in the ash /elesa team
My elesa on Volkner will handle the nuke so that marnie can just spam power trip
But that’s the stage where no tech are involved
The ash stage is the one with the tech not involved
Ah right I forgot
Yeah bc otherwise I would have just slapped og Volkner there
But they all have AoE 😰
I might end up slotting bp Clemont just for another sync buff and call it a day
Ig you can run MCchu
why is Clemont bad for all stages bar Volkner?
Doesn’t speed build up too slowly on the Sonia team?
Hey
That’s a great idea actually
Well that's what I am running 
Just throw a potion
Evasion hax is hard to execute in general
And clemont isn't rly a great 3rd slot compared to lot of other electric units
Unless you are setting up kekwalk, he's not as good
Now I have a spare Volkner to slot somewhere 
Now that I look, MCchu is top tier 3rd slot for clemont stage
Coz there's no other option

I don't have enough DPS, I am thinking of using him as the DPS for Volkner will that be ok?
Unless you do smth funny like double striker with ash
Electric type doesn't struggle with dps
Can you share your electric roster
Electric Grading
VS LT. SURGE,VS VOLKNER,VS ELESA,VS CLEMONT,VS MARNIE
S: EXCEPTIONAL
A: IDEAL
B: GOOD
C: OKAY
D: MEH
F: AVOID,Peer Reviewed,Great Partner
No Healing,No Rule,-80% Damage w/oStatus / Interference,Ally Tech -80% Stats,Physical Damage -80%
VS LT. SURGE
A,B,B,C,D,Okay DPS Option, wil...
It's all there
Biggest wall in electric is support access
If you clear it, almost all problems are solved
You don't have nemona, so it's not recommended to try eleSSa tank for it
That Zebstrika team is going to take forever to set up lol
you mean LT Surge?
I have no other tanks that can go there lol
You have zekrom, SSTred, ash, elesa, Marnie, hau
Don't bother with dps clemont memes
Just shove in Marnie and hau for that fight
is he a meme? I look on Poma he is nuking for a lot
Maybe its not self explaintory but let be give you a quick SS to explain
He also has to choose between accuracy down and spd down himself
Only notable thing that helps him is that he has guaranteed crit
Also as I said, with these options
No need to rely on clemont
No
SSTred and volkner have overlapping roles
And as I already said
If you already have SSTred
You wouldn't run volkner vs surge
Rather he moves to other stages
Moving volkner alone would change your comps drastically
Not to mention, eleSSa without nemona is just straight up B tier unit for any fight
Since she doesn't have any sort of self sufficiency when it comes to being a tank
You have 5 tanks
he doesn't have that many multipliers
Already
Hjasmine, BP clemont, Lelesa, Sonia, zapdos
Just run 1 in each comp depending on what you need for the team
No need to cope with SSelesa tank
BP clemont can go to surge fight, Lelesa for clemont and zapdos for Marnie
Rest you can sort around depending on teams
Sonia only have Elesa match up from the chart
No
so that's locked in
Sonia doesn't have lithe
Shes only there coz it was preliminary rankings
Elesa fight has aoe paralysis
Just like Marnie
hahah ehhh ok Ill just wait a week and just watch what's up
I only wanted to do a quick 80/20 but seems like you are telling me the ranking is not a full picture
I didnt just base it on ranking... I also looked at what each do
and how they fit
but nvm
Well you can move around some stuff
Like for surge
You can run SSTred, Og soph , BP clemont
I feel like it's the next best team if you don't have nemona
For volkner Marnie is pretty much a set unit coz powertrip hits super effective
So you just need a second dps and a capable tank
I dont have marnie
Not picking her from ticket?
This is my plan rn
You already have zekrom 
Will swap NC Marnie with OG Marnie
Yes, this bother me so much

And try to not para so early
If i cant, well just use NC Marnie to destroy the stage

You can try zapdos, Marnie, hau for volkner and volkner, Hjasmine, BP soph for Marnie no?

This team is too slow ay, gauge issues
H Jasmine buff crit with Passive
When the user enters battle with full HP, applies the Enduring effect to it.
Raises the user's Defense and Sp. Def by 1 stat rank when its Trainer uses a move.
Raises the critical-hit rate of all allied sync pairs by 1 stat rank when the user's Trainer uses a move.
Electric |
Johto |
Gym Leader
Seasonal Outfit
OK, then it should be fine
I guess Clemont can just spam mud slap
Zekrom has shit gauge so it's understandable
hmmm I dont think that team will be good haha
My zekrom is forever married to Sonia 
Well hjasmine has lithe
ok I will move him to Sonia's team
So she's better vs elesa or Marnie
maybe I pick up the Sophocle Golem...
You see lithe on tank, they are decent option for either of stages
hmmm its going to be 1/5 is it going to be good?
I am still mad that selector doesn't have cynthia or Gloria
1/5 is all you need for powertrip
Double dps
Will be the pain to deal if she the only dmg dealer
you have 2 tanks to go with her
Just like how Archie ran with Barry or may for misty fight in water HS
and nothing gives speed haha
But Volkner has Evasion buff
That why i bring L Elese

I dont want almost win
And she miss like 5 move
I am just bringing eleSSa and nuking it with OG elesa 
I hate Marnie with a passion
Other 2 picks are already 3/5 for me 
If the ticket had Gloria, it'd be instant pick
so its not worth it to get 2/5 N but get a copy of Marnie?
New unit better coz all 3 are lodge units
Unless you really like zekrom and plan to build him
2/5 Zekrom doesn’t have anything god for him
Maybe they plan on investing on him
ok so if I pick up Golem and Marnie, I guess I can do Marnie, Bp Soph, HJas
Personal i want to pick Raihan, but because of Electric high Score i will pick Marnie

nah I dont plan to invest on him other than use him for this event haha
Wow
Pykuo going for top 10
Nope

My electric didn't change at all 
Perhaps i still have to w8 the high score event, coz outside of the event, ady have my ash and sstred that will obliterate 
I spent too much this anni 😂
Zapdos saving electric HS

Last anni was suk for me
I had to pity both rats and skipped the dog
dont remind me of my pain
Even if I get zapdos, it's probs after HS
I had to pity SST Red and SSA Cynthia

last anni... my pogo mate told me to roll an account for rats and then I didnt play
What did you spend before Anni
?
I think if I get articuno soon, I might just run him as offtype option

Oleana and water HS banner
Atleast I can do better than most people on poison HS
Hello pykuo hope you're doing great


Just looking at the Google Doc for electric stuff
No rushing on candies and ex, just getting some first ideas
I miss Emma and Ball Guy 

Plumeria carry xd
I need to use this site to resume my electric units and start brainstorming
What is your best roster for HS @forest ferry ?
Grass
Soon we will copy each other team to climp higher

I gotchu friend 
Gonna be busy just at the beginning of the event, after the 18th no limits, I am here

Tho gotta be honest, after electric I think only grass is another type I am doing good I think, fire I think I'll miss on leaf unless a miracle happens
I think i will be ok at Fighting and Ground because i just miss 1 pair from those type

I should probably go do poma tracker too seems like a useful tool 
Getting Palmer here 100% 
Same
I am working with these units here, waiting a bit before ex'ing either joltik or magneton or if needed N
Steel is also pretty solid for me
Atleast on paper
It's just steel Pokemon are all with some level of gauge issues

Beggars can’t be choosers LMAO
Fire and Grass should be fine with my roster
Others tho
Eesh
Fire doesn't even have 5 good supports
So if they are doing fire HS, they'll likely release some new fire supports around that time
Time to save gem for that HS 
Oh wait NC Leaf is here, she must be good
Cant save gem now

She is but I think I am skipping her sadly
The gems are nowhere to be seen 
Fire HS should take some while
Too dry of a roster to make work 
Only top 3 have defensive buffs for team
when electric hs was announced there were only 6 electric support too
Still dont know what she can do
5 of those had some level of team defensive buffs
This one is worse
Even steel has better support spread rn
Tina is supp?
Interesting
Got both defensive buffs and charm
Finally done with my sync tracker
Guess I’ll be fine
“fine”
that’s literally a top 500 at the minimum
this really just feels like #gacha-and-flex 2.0 now
They are probs gunning for top 100
Especially considering that roster can actually do it
No ss hau means f tier roster 
Just ash for special damage stage 
There’s a toggle in PomaTools configuration, that allows the raw damage value to be affected by def debuffs.
@chilly flame u going for top 100 for this hs?
I am
Got a bit of a competition between some of the other mods
Either I maintain my position as the second highest ranked mod, or I try and beat runner
Do have whale competition?
He’s likely competing against runner
It’s a one way competition, I don’t think he cares lmfao
But he’s not even the main one
It’s Nick and Dark
Ah
Electric highscore and i didn't get blue amd don't have SST Red this is gonna be a sight to see
Wait its still gonna be 180K the rewards goal? Damn
But i'm not after the rewards i'm after the medal
Only micelaineous one i'm missing
eh you can probably still get the medal
im more surprised you didnt get it from the water hs tho
I hope to get the medal too
Didnt rlly feel like trying, still dont but idk if id be able to get it in other types, maybe psychic but I need more supports
Plus i don't think i have many banner exclusive water pairs i have NC Serena and i think that's it.
I got SS blue too
I have CSerena, KriSS, Eusine, and Archie but electric is just Ash and Marnie 
Oh yeah SS Blue as well
A bit more prepared for electric i got HJasmine, Ash, Nemona
Will be picking N
Don't see people commenting much on SS Hau so i'm guessing he is not that good?
he is
I think he doesnt have that great dps? Prob good for dual striking but idk
but he has to be used strategically
Oh yeah same, so 5 water vs 3 electric limiteds
See, unlike Water HS, i’m actually going for top 100 this time so… have fun :)
yea that's why i included you this time
Well which of the staff team has
Zapdos?
debating if I’m really gonna candy Nemona for this
I know runner got one of them
idk if it was for leaf or blue
I think it was blue tho
Damn good luck sand toes
I feel no motivation for this unless they introduce new medals
Ty 🙏
I said it before during the water one but my motivation is being petty that other people I know are doing better than me
Honestly it is a good thing there's no top 100 medal so I don't need to go through rng hell agn
I'm guessing this time there will be a lot of ss elesa leg up rng fishing
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SSTred, sshau and Vkris are great for surge and Marnie fights
It's just Vkris and SSTred are better at it than sshau
Coz Kris has better way to ramp evasion and SSTred is just SSTred
Im attempting a dps hau grid on Dazzling gleam (WP9,SE5,HH) and see how it works on marnie. I’ll put a nuker next to him
Only mid is fairy weak tho
And the dmg difference between DG and Bmove isn't that big 
That’s why I say attempt 
It’s paper consideration, ready to change my mind once the event drops and can test stuff out
Bc it’s the most common terrain
it's also a bit redundant anyway since she has Weird World on her grid
You wouldn't pick weird world over terrain MPR for her
Extend range dps with aoe nuke 
Well outside this HS, I don't rly use sshau unless team also has ssmina anyways
Still wish he had it, would make 200 BP spam in HS more workable

If my calculations are correct, I can EX 6 sync pairs and then have enough Ressources left to EX a non-Electric fave
Oh, forgot to ping @forest ferry, whoops
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Imma be honest
That roster looks sad
So for dps
Zekrom (2/5) , ash (1/5) , elesa (5/5) are strong units
Especially ash is pretty much set for Marnie stage coz that stage has reduced physical damage
As for supports you have
BPsurge, hjasmine, Lelesa, BP clemont, Sonia
So EX em all
Since I personally don't see you using any other supports as tanks over em for any fight
Now we need to consider 2 more dps and 5 more 3rd slot units
Can you share your limited dps for offtype candidates
Preferably any striker and tech that's like S or above
Coz I don't see 1/5 volkner, hau or BP soph be better than offtype options
speaking of Marnie, I hope I'll be able to get her tomorrow thanks to the free ticket
that way, I'd have an easy Volkner candidate
Here's the thing with Marnie
That volkner stage is only mid with dark weak
So you still need a good aoe nuke for that stage
well, true
oh yeah, I just noticed: SS Elesa is completely excluded in that list
If you don't have nemona she's underwhelming as a tank
Coz low HP and no team defensive buffs
Cant take sync with her as a tank in team
fair, considering I prolly won't be able to pre-sync anything
also also, I luckily have Ash and Elesa already EX'd, so only N is left in this DPS list...and I was considering EX-ing him, but I was told that EX-ing him is kinda a waste if he's not 3/5, which is why I held off for now
...I mean, I can technically bring him to 3/5 as well since I have 2 Strike candies, but I was adviced against that, too
Well outside HS
You'd never use him
For HS aoe nuke still helps
Iirc he does get some sync tiles at 2/5 and follow through on grid
I actually have those tiles, funnily enough
Which is why I am asking for offregion dps options
50k+ with smth like hau is pretty hard

I actually have Hau EX'd as well, funnily enough
this is, like, my ENTIRE list of 5* electric-type sync pairs
the only one not shown in that list is OG Surge (the one with Voltorb/Electrode), who is still a 4*
For surge:
Volkner, BP clemont , hau/BP sophcles
For volkner:
Clemont/eleSSa, Sonia , zekrom
For elesa:
Elesa, BP surge, sophocles
For clemont:
Lelesa, MCchu, strike dps
For Marnie
ash, celesa, Hjasmine
For now
So yea
Clemont stage might need offtype dps
Other stages look potentially fine
As of now
damn, offtype dps...that means I'd be getting less score by default, tho
that's not good
Do you have any strong ground dps?
That stage has 2 mobs with ground weakness
Or any of the uber striker?
...my strongest ground DPS is Naomi
Well ig then you just have to run hau/BP soph in that spot
Oh yea
Hau doesn't buff crit
For surge:
Volkner, BP clemont , BP sophcles
For volkner:
Clemont/eleSSa, Sonia , zekrom
For elesa:
Elesa, BP surge, sophocles
For clemont:
Lelesa, MCchu, Hau
For Marnie
ash, celesa, Hjasmine
There
Done I think

hmm...I might be able to replace Clemont/EleSSa with Marnie in the Volkner stage once I get her tomorrow...which would allow me to replace MCchu with EleSSa to further buff Hau 
you mean Volkner's stage?
Yes
Actually BP clemont and Lelesa buff accuracy for team
But the problem is Lelesa wants to be in clemont stage
Coz it's a purely physical stage
and BP Clemont needs to be with Volkner due to sync grid
Well BP clemont wants to be with surge
Coz other units have better healing potential
And BP clemont is like one of the bulkiest tanks in terrain
And surge stage favors Eterrain
You can run Marnie for that fight instead of eleSSa/clemont if you don't mind resetting for misses
hmm...in that case, I'd probably need to rethink who to get with the free ticket...
Well Marnie is still free lodge
Picking her is instant 4 coins, 15 PUs and other shit
...well, problem is: I'm not really interested in Marnie's lodge alt either...
Well
Imma be honest
Picking zekrom 3/5 is not worth losing out goodies from lodge
I'd rather 3/5 that ash and rush for 80k pts just from himself 
I sadly can't 3/5 Ash, though
I only have 2 Strike Candies
which means I can only bring him to 2/5 at best
2 is all you need for 3/5 tho
Well not that I recommend candying for HS in first place
...I don't think you understand: if I only have 2 Strike Candies, then that means I can only use one
because I also want to keep another one on standby
Uhhh yea....well just invest on stuff I recommended then wait and see how HS goes
Only EX zekrom, Lelesa, BP clemont , BP surge
...ya know, with how often I use BP Surge in general, I'll definitely EX him first
alright, with BP Surge and BP Clemont now EX'd, I am now at 344
and 92
...I better wait until I did tomorrow's CS before I continue then
Oh yea I forgot to mention BP soph.... 
@onyx crystal I remember you said you were thinking about candying nemona
What move level would you be going to
I ain't spending 3x candies on her 1/5.
Oh she’s at 1/5
Imma have to spend 2x because she sucks otherwise. 🫠
L take
She's definitely not a standard character
I didn't scout her, waiting for a better rerun
She looks fun but lmao I'm not wasting many candies or going to pity for extra copies in current Poma economy just to get a unit to work remotely well
I thought you were the one defending her when I was saying she was bad

I did leg up 1 Archie 
question: for the upcoming event, can u recommend me some good supports and dps for the event (I don't have Neo Blue yet)
and uhhh I have Nemona at 2/5, is it worth candying her to 3/5 for this event?
Can you provide your roster?
I wouldn’t advise candying a unit just for this event unless you want to flex a really high rank
@rough ginkgo here
I'm considering between Nemona (2/5 to 3/5) or Classic Elesa (1/5 to 3/5)
should I ex Zebrastrika Elesa?
Elesa and Zebstrika is a good EX
hmm idk for the high score event though
Are you planning on going for a really high rank/score?
as high as I can
well I don't have the skill like others, but I would still want to try my best6
Final member secured woo
That said I used Nemona for the first time in a serious battle and didn’t really click with her play style haha
Oh well
How do i keep Inertia 
Will this be enough to clear this?
Should I put N somewhere?
Probably in place of Mc Pika or Clemont. It’d be easier if you labeled which teams are for which opponents. I’m guessing it’s in order of how they’re listed though.
Main problem of 1/5 is gauge. 
That’s a lil too much energy for me to shave off

Also does N really do more damage than mc
i mean
yeah?
bolt strike is like 160bp vs like 60
47bp vs 189
still doesnt even get close with pr9
You can only keep pika in pr range between syncs. Would need to see if any aoe is thrown out to consider it
Team 1’s goal is dont get hit; accuracy debuffs and evasion buffs 
And yeah its in order, that way I dont have to change the preset name for every HS/special CS
1/5 n will outdamage a 5/5 potionchu assuming paralysis synergy and pr9 is active
Lel Potionchu dps
What
its not good yeah
Imma go gambling vs volkner 
no 3rd electric pair against Elesa?
No limited electric support/nemona

Actually
Just realised eleSSa only has 20% para chance

Surge > eleSSa
ex surge, love to see it
Idt N has those at 1/5, unless u mean potionchu has them
Potionchu has PR14 & PS5, so it has 290% ↑ on Thunderbolt... an 88 power move at 5/5 gridded entirely for it.
How does that math against N
Assuming active buffs
[(stats x 1.8)] x [power * (1 + multipliers)] x conditions to get the raw value.
So 474 (with gear+grid) x 1.8 = 853.
88 power x 3.1 (cs2 ls) = 272
853 x 272 x 1.5 (crit) = 348,024 raw
1/5 non-ex N.
does about 305,371 raw.
would be 330,103 raw.
If you divide the raw value by 2x the target's def value, you'll get an approxmiation of the highest damage roll.
So yes, 5★ 5/5 Pikachu does out damage 1/5 N's Bolt Strike... when the target is paralzyed & their HP is equal to or less than 33%.
(I should mention the Pikachu I tested was promoted to 5★, pretty sure 3★ is weaker.)
I'm wondering if I should just use Lt. Surge instead of Hau vs Clemont. 
He could debuff Sp.Atk, and boost Ash's Kanto Spirit.
But does virtually no dps. :/
You seen to quite literaly have all banner exclusive electric pairs you're good
https://imgur.com/a/4k70Noc
Gotta fix that Marnie grid.
If I grinded do you all think I could get top 100 with this roster (I can EX a few) or am I tripping?
Actually I think I’m tripping
I think I’d need to candy like hau/nemona/red to get close
Top 100 score will jump significantly as time goes on, so its hard to say. Also willingness to reset for perfect rng.
I hope im able to get into top 10k this time
last time I didnt rlly care but now I want to get it over with, esp since idk what other types I could do it with
Psychic I still need more supports, and water is my biggest roster
Electric I atleast have 16 units tho
Just make sure you can compete with rat users 
I have one rat atleast 
🤝
Me with 0 rats and my only limited electric are N and Blue: yeah this isn’t happening 
Anyways is blues grid important for going for 180k+ here if my only other limited electric is 1/5 N
Considering how shafted f2p electric is aside from like Sonia
180k doesn't need much effort
It's less than 40k pts per run
You can always go 1 offtype, 2 ontype if your roster is limiting you
do we have a tl;dr quick note thing like we had this for water HS but for this HS?
Misty - Special stage
Marlon - Mix. Bring tech
Lana - Mix. Need a strong dps
Nessa - Physical. Plain and simple
Archie - Physical. No special dps
like, what damage type they do (special/phys) and any special needs
it's in the pins, have the reflex to check in all channels beforehand just in case
i just see an image with a move list and gimmick list, unless im missing something dont really know at a glance where to put what tanks/dps
the graphic image lists the moves, stats and gimmicks
you can tell from the sync move if they're physical or special
if their sync move says beam it's special
if it says impact it's physical
sometimes that's not an option
so you just look at the moves instead
but they also say "watch out for these" litteraly
ok, does that mean those 3 are generally the strongest offensively? or are there big moves to avoid from surge and marnie too?
sorry for the questions, it just is awkward prepping for a type im rather shafted on favs for so far
they all have the same offensive stats from the looks of it, it's hard to tell who's the most dangerous
i see Wild Charge on Elesa with Standfast which could be a problem
dunno if itd be worth exing elesa or hau for this event when i prob wont use them outside of this. dunno if the golem soph does good nuke or not
you should probably just not stress about it now and wait for people to share teamcomps
it's just too early
10 days away and it lasts 3 weeks
alright
didnt realize itd last a whole 3 weeks, thats a pretty long time. good to hear that ill have plenty of time to do it
they all have strong moves: surge has steel beam, volkner discharge, elesa wild charge, clemont thunder and marnie seed bomb and crunch
and except surge all fights have one side with giga impact
So I'm thinking of this for the Volkner Stage: https://i.imgur.com/iqaXA9X.png
Problem is, it's not possible to afford Disheartening Shock, Inertia, and Dashing Team in the same grid.
Even if I go straight up the left-side and skip the upper sync node, I still have -1 energy.
Still at 61 energy 💀
This combo feels counterintuitive for me:
- I would use jasmine for boosting a sync rather than a move with her SEup
- can’t Volkner be used for tanking? I heard that he’s good for that
Also about Marnie grid, why lucky entry when super preparation costs less?
@onyx crystal
volkner only tanks if he has buffed defenses just electrorepulsion isnt enough
apparently I've been blind this whole time
Yeah I know but adding jasmine is overkill… why not a weaker support?
because theres like 3 electric supports that actually buff defenses
and hjasmine is pretty crucial on higher strength anyway
volkner at that point cant tank reliably
its sonia hjasmine and nc blue
I have:
Clemont with Red and Nemona vs Surge.
Sonia with N + Sophocles vs Elesa.
ElesaLodge with Ash + Hau vs Clemont
ncBlue with ssHau and nyVolkner vs Marnie.
The only remaining supports would be Lt. Surge (bp) and ssElesa.
with prayers to arceus :3
Like if smth like Archie needed external help to wipe sides vs misty
Marnie isn't gonna carry herself 
If I'm not using volkner there it changes the whole thing.
Also does hjas have accuracy buffs?
Volkner does.
Gauge: - | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: 2
Target: Self
Effect Tag: -
Raises the user's Attack by 1 stat rank. Applies the Critical Hit Next effect to the user. Raises the accuracy of all allied sync pairs by 1 stat rank when the terrain is Electric Terrain.
Volkner & Luxray
Clement vs surge wtf
That shit heals a ton and u waste him?
Terrain is good on Surge, so Red is going there, and he has Electrorepulsion for tanking + mixed defensive buffing since that stage in particular is mixed.






