#High Score

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haughty haven
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This is garbage CaitlinSleeper

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I’ll try ramp team with Surge

sullen pier
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fortunately i already got the medal in the previous event, this HS is so cruel

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cant compete with rat users

red pendant
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😦

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I didn't get the medal in the previous event due to reasons I have previously mentioned

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but the worst part: even if I would have noticed that I got kicked out of the medal threshold, there was STILL nothing I could do about it

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since I was already heavily struggling with the event as is

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to the point I was straight up forced to use an Eggmon

stray dust
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I'm going for the medal agn probably JasmineRelax

forest ferry
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3/5 N is better

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2/5 Marnie does have flinch but for this event you'll only use her for PT anyways

sullen pier
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iirc 3/5 N gets more sync multipliers

weary rivet
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That is how a leaderboard functions, you don't get kicked out

forest ferry
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30% sync multiplier and some sync tiles

weary rivet
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You are just surpassed

grand perch
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You are kicked out of certain reward tiers though haha

weary rivet
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But it sounds like pushing the blame on external forces

ornate turret
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you just can't do the bare minimum like clear a few times, get all the rewards and expect to get the medal too.
the smaller the roster the higher the rng, the more you have to invest, try again multiple times, keep track of your ranking daily.
even with more premium units you still have to put in the work, other players with higher move levels, trying more time will get higher score and kick you out, that's no surprise
this is not CS when you clear 1 time and done with it unless you somehow get 300-400k point from your first clear PrycePain

haughty haven
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On last day point need for top 10k went up so fast

regal grove
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Hhmm mayb i should grab marnie 1/5 from the free ticket later, will she do good job?

stray dust
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Most probably

sullen pier
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it seems the Volkner's stage is designed for her, so getting Marnie makes the stage (slightly) easier

stray dust
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Power trip has high bp even at 1/5 after all

regal grove
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Noice BarryPogChamp MallowHeart

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Next HS’s probably fire or grass? Just my prediction RosaThink

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Next HS after electric*

stray dust
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Grass : sleep powder chain

sullen pier
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we dont know, but dena would choose popular types for HS first

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so possibly you are right

regal grove
grand perch
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I mean they did surprise us with Ice CS

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Who knows maybe next high score is FAIRY

haughty haven
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Ground High Score

sullen pier
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Normal High Score

haughty haven
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Variery High Score SophoKEK

grand perch
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Oh god we have that many already

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Though I guess in the grand scheme of things it’s still just 4,4%

forest ferry
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OK I improvized on some stages

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Had to swap around BP surge, Sonia and MCchu

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Coz Sonia doesn't have lithe and Marnie has go viral thunderwave

sullen pier
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she doesnt?

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bad unit smh CaitlinSleeper

forest ferry
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Surge has lithe so he's better tank vs Marnie SophoKEK

outer whale
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Y i k e s.

forest ferry
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You haven't seen marnie's condition

outer whale
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Marnie doesn't seem that bad tbh

forest ferry
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Check how many special dps we have for electric

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Atleast most electric dd are strikers

outer whale
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Ash, Tapu Koko, and NYVolkner. all three i have

forest ferry
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Nowonder

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Then strike also not bad
Ash, elesa, zekrom

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Also BP soph

regal grove
severe pollen
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only for Clemont

forest ferry
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Volkner has dark weak mid

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And no conditions

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So Marnie works there

regal grove
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Nice one

chilly flame
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“Hey guys you wanna paralyze them to get more points”

“Let’s give Volkner facade and X evasion”

forest ferry
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That's why imma just ash it SophoKEK

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Also BPclemont is a good tank for that stage

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And he buffs accuracy

outer whale
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Oof... is all i can say...

forest ferry
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LElesa also buffs accuracy but she's better vs surge since she doesn't have def up

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Marnie is physical stage

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Bring physical tank

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Also that clemont team is overkill

outer whale
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i'm scared about the stat drops rule

sullen pier
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i would move BP Clemont to SST Red's team

outer whale
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ok will do

chilly flame
outer whale
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Just note that my NYVolkner and SSTRed are 1/5 ColressLook

regal grove
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I guess

outer whale
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i DO have striker candies if needed.

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like 3 of em. but i'm also saving just in the case i randomly do get a Palmer moment

forest ferry
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I'm just waiting to see how my anni rolls go

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If I get zapdos all my comps get a massive overhaul

regal grove
long oyster
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Do you guys think Marnie is gonna be useful

sullen pier
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she is useful against Dark weak Volkner

long oyster
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Oh

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Imma have to pick her in the pf ticket then

rustic summit
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i have my doubts that 1/5 non-EX marnie will be that good against him

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although, on type is nice

long oyster
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If he is Dark Weak why not

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Isnt her 1/5 grid a power trip build

rustic summit
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i wouldnt know i only really pulled her for toxicroak TabithaHehe

long oyster
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Lol

outer whale
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At 1/5, she doesn't have her nuke potential but poer trip can still do good damage at 1/5. The problem is it will only do good damage when she' hangry

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Also keep in mind that syncing WILL change her back to full belly mode regardless if you're in hangry mode

rustic summit
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needs 2/5 at least for nuking right?

outer whale
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3/5

rustic summit
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3? aite then

sullen kestrel
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I recently EXd my 2/5 marnie so hopefully she’ll help

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Tho I EXd her for the holo foil and since we were getting electric HS

outer whale
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If i get NCBlue from a daily, he's immediately going to Clemont's team

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Not gonna even bother to do multis

rustic summit
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oh yeah, clemont would really like nc blue wouldn't he

forest ferry
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All stages except surge like NCblue

rustic summit
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yeah true

sullen pier
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why Surge tho HilbertHmm

forest ferry
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Only surge somewhat "counters" his main stuff

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No heals

sullen pier
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ah right

rustic summit
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time for dodge-tank ss elesa LarryDead

forest ferry
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Well surge is also sstred's best stage

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Coz surge has no electric moves

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All other stages have atleast electric sync

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Dodge tank isn't doing high str run

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Coz you die to sync

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Best use for eleSSa tank is only if you have nemona

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Better to bring offregion tank and shove in your worst dps

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Than try evasion

rustic summit
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i do have nemona at least so that's a plus

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granted, i got the medal during water hs so i'm most likely just going to hit 180k and call it a day

haughty haven
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I tried some rotation with Nemona-SSTRed-SS Elesa

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But this team too fast so maybe i must use 2nd Sync with Red

forest ferry
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Conductivity is damage loss

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Cakewalk where?

haughty haven
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But make up for fast ramp

forest ferry
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Also no leg up

haughty haven
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I think i need this

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Maybe drop it

forest ferry
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You just reset till leg up procs so eleSSa herself can -5 accel

haughty haven
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This too

forest ferry
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Well I still don't like the comp WEEZing

haughty haven
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And Nemona is 40% flinch

forest ferry
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It's so clunky and pain

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Lot of resets

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Reset for leg up, flinch and incase your fingers mess up

haughty haven
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If i play this comp

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I will not play at full speed

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My brain cant handle the speed

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And i need practice to use Nemona TM on SS Elesa fast

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💀

forest ferry
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You are going hardcore for electric HS?

haughty haven
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Idk

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Just try my best

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||With a lot of RNG||

forest ferry
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💀

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Hopefully red and leaf come in 1 multi

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Then I can get blue and hardcore this HS SophoKEK

haughty haven
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GL, my Priority is Red->Blue->Leaf

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Hope they come for me

cyan tusk
forest ferry
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Yea, with leg up eleSSa can pull it off

unborn acorn
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cant wait to use 2 rats and 1 bird to get 300k points in just one stage

haughty haven
long oyster
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As a non nemona haver, I'll probably replace her with volkner and tank with him

unborn acorn
haughty haven
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Just need luck with Flinch

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And you can use Red TM and Electric Terrain before sync and still remain one turn enemy

forest ferry
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I am crying DrakePain

full lark
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Who dat

haughty haven
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I think is SS Morty

regal grove
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SS Blue? I forgo

forest ferry
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SSmorty

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Ssblue also electric weak

unborn acorn
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I think Celestela too

forest ferry
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This is the best I can do now

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Had to rework more stuff

full lark
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Anabel BarryPogChamp

forest ferry
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She's my next best tank

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After SSmorty and ssblue

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Ssmina doesn't have synergy else I'd use her

cyan tusk
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SSMina can help SSHau with SMUN stacking

cyan tusk
# haughty haven So it should look like this

Yes, or you can simply use the dynamax after the double eleSSa buff to add up some damage. The sides will go down via B Volt tackle but the mid will always have more hp.. by doing that you can also chip the mid. In addition, I’ll give eleSSa adrenaline and nemona hs1 and turn1 I’ll fish for nemona’s tm MPR BellisScience

haughty haven
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The stage will more Bulky than Bruno full HP

onyx crystal
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I forgot to test, but were Round Parameters able to be bypassed by Piercing Blows, or would something like Archie's stage still lower Special PB damage.

forest ferry
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I'd rather do offtype support on elesa

onyx crystal
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I presume they don't since they're not enemy passives, just blanket parameters set to the battle.

forest ferry
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Piercing blows didn't bypass phys dmg req

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For last HS

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A friend of mine used reshiram vs Archie and said piercing blows didn't work

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I'd assume it's like CS

cyan tusk
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So tha later the worst, unless your nemona/eleSSa do paralize everyone

forest ferry
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I forgot elesa's condition is status/interference so bringing surge instead of clemont

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Damn, more I look into the stuff they do, more I have to switch units around CyrusSweat

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Wtf S for Marnie and A for surge

fresh sapphire
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I think it's reversed

forest ferry
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Surge has no healing, that alone shuts down half of blue's kit

rancid perch
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interesting

fresh sapphire
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Well Blue is very bulky

onyx crystal
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Oh that's special.

fresh sapphire
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With +6 defs

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And flinching

onyx crystal
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I did have it reversed :>

weary rivet
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And debuffing offenses

fresh sapphire
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Kinda functions like SSB?

weary rivet
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If they have mitigation 5 like last one

fresh sapphire
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Without healing

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But better

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Coz flinch

rancid perch
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basically the same stage rules except instead of a status immune stage, it's a status requiring stage

forest ferry
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There's a tech blocking stage

rancid perch
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does elesa cleanse her status like some la's do or something like that

forest ferry
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Instead of strike blocking

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There's no cleanse

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No immunity

rancid perch
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ok nice

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just click g max volt crash and don't worry about it anymore

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the tech blocking stage is pretty equivalent to the strike blocking one from water

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and this time there's a no physical instead of no special stage

fresh sapphire
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Well because water dominates in special while Electric dominates in physical

rancid perch
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oh wait that means elesa's likely super effective leech life against morepeko won't work AcerolaPensive

forest ferry
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Only good super effective we are getting is dark weak mid on volkner

rancid perch
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marnie time BarryPogChamp

forest ferry
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Other typings aren't irrelevant

haughty haven
cyan tusk
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A little bit more power to nemona with haymaker, full steroid reds and you end the run without needing more than 2 extended ET RoxanneThis

onyx crystal
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Rip to my 3/5 nyVolkner and no electrictype Weak Enemies.

mortal timber
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ready for battle MayleneOraOra

onyx crystal
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  • VS Surge, gives entire team +1 ACC_UP on Entry ( No DEF_UP EVA_UP Buffs present)
  • VS Volkner, Luxray Side has +1 ACC_UP (self). Volkner himself buffs +2 EVA_UP with X Evaison All (No DEF_UP Buffs Present)
  • VS Elesa, Pawmot Side has +1 ACC_UP (self). Team has 2x X Atk All available. (No DEF_UP SPA_UP EVA_UP buffs present)
  • VS Clemont, gives entire team +2 ACC_UP on Entry (No ATK_UPEVA_UP Present)
  • VS Marnie, Togedemaru side has +2 ACC_UP (self). There are 2x DEF_UP X Def All available. (No SPA_UP speed_up present)
onyx crystal
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Pastebin Extract:

full lark
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They actually gave Elesa the AoE Paralysis as an opponent, cool

paper mist
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My guess: Surge is where everyone is gonna be using Ash, Elesa is prob where everyone is gonna be using Red, BPClemont is also likely gonna be used for Surge since he has the fastest defensive buffing and doesn't have potions to waste like Jasmine. Volkner is where Marnie gets used since he's apparently weak to Dark. Those with Nemona will use her against Clemont. Marnie is where either Haus will be used.

warm kayak
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even 1/5 Marnie might be decent

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power trip is quite strong

paper mist
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yeah

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pair her with someone who can give stat buffs and let her go

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I don't have Ash so I will suffer somewhat

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actually, Marnie being Fairy-weak means SS Hau can be good against her

warm kayak
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his fairy DPS isn't outstanding

paper mist
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it's not, but Lana's bug dps isn't either. Plus he can actually grid for Fairy damage

warm kayak
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gotta see how much of an issue sides are with that setup

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his nuke is very strong

paper mist
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stuff like sde 5, whimsical power 9, then general multipliers like hunter's instinct and power induction 1 and team power induction 2, and spdef drops from mind games 9, though obv you can't take all of these with power plant, which he'll want

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lack of wish MPR is a shame

warm kayak
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spdef drop is core

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it's very potent there

paper mist
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yeah

warm kayak
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there's also the issue of boosting enemy sync unless you perfectly flinch

paper mist
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well, I suppose you could skip power plant since it would also just buff Marnie, but then you'd have to really time your Wishes to use Web

warm kayak
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ah no, safe

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it begins on battle start and ends before 2nd sync

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so just delay Hau's sync by a bit

paper mist
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wait nvm I read it wrong

paper mist
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Recoil Removal 9 Steel Beam, with no healing? blobsweat

rain sierra
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When Surge is Lana electric bugaloo PrycePain

paper mist
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I actually didnt find Lana that hard

rain sierra
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No healing limits a lot of playstyle

warm kayak
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180k will be a breeze

rain sierra
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If the Emblem is not a concern, sure SeleneLul

paper mist
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i dont mind stacking defensive buffs early to survive, though burning lana did help, no such possibility here

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i will be debuffing his accuracy though, and clemont's SpA

warm kayak
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you can pray that sides get owned by para

ornate turret
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pin is updated BrycenOTL

sullen pier
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thank you for your hard work whitneyheart

rough ginkgo
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Hmm
Besides volkner (marnie), there isn’t a lot of ontype potential

rancid perch
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you get more points for your pairs getting debuffed huh

rain sierra
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The only limited pairs I don't have are classic Elesa, Xmas Jasmine and NY Volkner. I hope I don't get punished for that SeleneLul

cyan tusk
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Wtf is allies debuffs, I don’t see any opponents debuffing move actually? PrycePain

stray dust
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U gonna debuff yourself

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Like with TM

signal needle
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Ye but u only get 3000 points by debuffing urself 126 times

rancid perch
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N's tm debuffs his defense I believe

cyan tusk
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I really hope it’s opponents debuff and dena fix it

trail adder
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Aside from N and Sophocles, who else even does that?

royal tiger
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this is difficult 😦

forest ferry
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You have better roster than me SophoKEK

royal tiger
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i think that should do it for now @-@

forest ferry
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Wouldn't recommend SSTred in evasion stage

royal tiger
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Oh right

forest ferry
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Coz that means picking piercing gaze instead of damage

royal tiger
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Clemont has Piercing Gaze

forest ferry
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You can run eleSSa to fix accuracy issues in that stage actually

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And elesa and Marnie stage would need tank with lithe

royal tiger
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I was hoping to use SS Elesa to get ash 2 EX MOves quickly

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i'm gonna try to get uhm

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Marnie from the Free Fair Ticket

sturdy glen
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2/5 has precision pals

forest ferry
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Why would you pick those useless tiles

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Instead of cakewalk and SS3

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Red's 690 str run in previous HS was without any of the useless stuff

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You pick those, it's gonna be less damage = less strength

royal tiger
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is Electric the only bonus?

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and hits?

sturdy glen
forest ferry
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Yea but you aren't crossing 600 str with red running non damage tiles

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His nuke is what carries high strength runs

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Unless you are bringing another dps with him

royal tiger
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SST Red + Holiday Jasmine is made for 600STR? D:?

forest ferry
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I did 695 str vs lana with SSTred last HS

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He can't do more coz of damage limitation

royal tiger
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with what team?

forest ferry
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SSTred, Wake, ssblue

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I am doing same thing this time

royal tiger
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i see

forest ferry
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Bringing him vs surge with soph and clemont

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He should do same strength

royal tiger
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this was my team.

sturdy glen
royal tiger
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from High Score event

forest ferry
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It actually is
The damage drop is very noticable

royal tiger
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guess i'll do 200 first

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then turn it up i guess sigh

forest ferry
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If you rly want high score, his best stage is either surge or elesa

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Since he can go full damage build there

royal tiger
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i could go full damage in there tbh

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i only need the bare minimum

sturdy glen
royal tiger
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the 4star medal is like 10 4star Power Ups anyways 😦

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oh wells

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i'll ask again once we get more details ;_;

rancid perch
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who has accuracy as an electric type

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that is, who is the intended damage dealer for a +evasion stage

sullen pier
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Ash has sure hit Thunder

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NY Volkner too

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but Electric types also have multiple accuracy buffers, like base Volkner, BP Clemont, Lodge Elesa...

rancid perch
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ah right

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I was pretty sure N could self buff accuracy and I thought I remembered lodge elesa could do it for the team

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ash seems like the easiest option but then again also pretty useful for the no tech and no physical stages

signal needle
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TL Elesa has hem in to lower evasion and special defense for the team

sturdy glen
sullen pier
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i thought his TM buffed 2 acc for each use

sturdy glen
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only 1 AcerolaPensive

sullen pier
soft sedge
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BP Clemont can max Accuracy and V Kris can debuff evasion. Then there's OG Clemont and SST Red with Piercing Gaze

signal needle
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true

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bp clem and V kris shudnt be used on Surge though

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wasted Synchro healing

soft sedge
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Well I haven't looked at the stages yet SophoKEK

cyan tusk
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Using VKris with SSHau could not be a bad idea bc either of them can nuke under terrain

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SSHau can grab other stuff in his grid

signal needle
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like which stuff

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Hunter's instinct?

soft sedge
forest ferry
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Volkner does have discharge

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He's the Nessa of this run basically

signal needle
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its ok i put Volkner and his +1 Accuracies to his own stage

onyx crystal
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sturdy glen
onyx crystal
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What are High Score Events?

How it Works:

  • Much like Champion Stadium, in this mode you face off against 5 Opponent Teams, in 3v3 battles. You can only use a sync pair once throughout all 5 battles.
  • Opponent's have Resilience in this mode, when they recover from flinch sleep freeze CONDITION_CONFUSE trap they will gain CONDITION_CONDITION_NULL Condition Nullification temporarily.
  • You can increase the difficulty of each stage by directly increasing the raw Strength of the Opponents.
  • This increases their base stats. Difficulty Level: Hard (Equal to CS), going up to Expert (5x of CS).
  • The main gimmick is that the points you earn are determined by using (mostly) exclusively one-type of Sync Pairs.
  • Your points earned are directly multiplied by the number of sync pairs you use of said type.
  • You can earn additional points based each Event's specific Challenge. These can specify specific theme skills, or achieving certain conditions in a battle such as inflicting a status, etc.
  • Each stage also may feature an additional battle condition such as the Bonus Effects you'd see in Champion Stadium.
  • These effects cannot be ignored by likes of Piercing Blows, etc.
  • There are one-time rewards for reaching a certain point threshold (similar to Master Mode)
  • After the reward threshold you only gain minor rewards for each additional 5,000 points in score achieved.

What to Do:

  • Form 5 teams of Sync Pairs all sharing the same sync move type specified by the Event.
  • If you can't utilize all 15 pairs of said-type, bring a strong sync pair, such as one that has a type-advantage or a strong support/utility pair.
  • Try to keep in mind the bonus points, if you can afford to do so, try and spread each appropriate sync pair to each team, if applicable.
  • Don't rush to candy/ex units right at the beginning. As the event progresses more information and testing will have been conducted and you can see which sync pairs are better suited to specific stages.
  • Scoring higher is to understand the move order and when you should utilize interruption or healing. The more you battle the stages the easier it will be to memorize.
  • If you're aiming for a topping high score, prepare to be ready with make investments: EX, Candy, Roll Cake, Lv150, and lucky skill overrides.
  • The moves used by the opponents are not fixed, so there is a lot of RNG that goes on in each battle, you will need to RESET a lot to maximize points.
daring igloo
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Here before the pin nuke

sullen pier
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Get ready

chilly flame
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@onyx crystal I’m getting flashbacks…

outer whale
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making this joke before it's too late.
Wow, i can't believe that NCBlue is ASSSS.

chilly flame
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LOL

ornate turret
outer whale
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also @onyx crystal i'll help out on this when i come back home from work. seems like fun.

onyx crystal
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Are there any accuracy debuffing moves on the opponents?

red pendant
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So...any ideas on what would be a good SST Red replacement then?

sullen pier
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no

red pendant
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😦

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There's gotta be one

onyx crystal
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I think they were responding to me.

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maybe

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But there isn't really a direct replacement for sstRed.

red pendant
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😦

forest ferry
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Why is surge D vs Marnie?

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He has lithe, buffs defense

sullen pier
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BP or base?

forest ferry
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BP

sullen pier
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his BP leans towards physical supporting

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and you dont want to use physical dmg dealers on Marnie stage

onyx crystal
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I put D initially because he's a physical support, that was just an early sweep over the units.

forest ferry
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Yea but he has lithe, the stage has go viral 9

sullen pier
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maybe raising to C is a good idea SeleneLul

forest ferry
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He also still buffs crit

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Well
Other stages are also special or mixed for most part

onyx crystal
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Don't treat the grades as good until the little peer reviewed box is ticked.

forest ferry
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So surge outside this stage is pretty shit SophoKEK

sullen pier
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Elesa stage is fully physical iirc

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just checked, it is

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Elesa also has aoe Nuzzle

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coincidentally BP Surge happens to have Thunder Wave to counter the special rule of Elesa

forest ferry
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Oh yea RosaThink

onyx crystal
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Units

StrikeP 10036000001 10106000000 10089000000
StrikeS 18000000000 10098000000 10115400000 10264000000
Tech 10035000000 10036000000 10115000000 10131000000 10245000000 10106800000 10000100000 10018000001 10098100000
Support 10035000001 10131000001 10106000001 10106100000 10259000000 10113410000 10021900001
Sprint 10289000000

Lithe

StrikeP 10036000001 10106000000 10089000000
StrikeS 10115400000 10264000000
Tech 10035000000 10115000000 10245000000 10106800000 10000100000 10018000001 10098100000 movelv2: 10036000000
Support 10035000001 10131000001 10113410000 10021900001
Sprint 10289000000

Unflappable

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lone bronze
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No PokeEgg category? HildaCry

forest ferry
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BP surge completely forgotten for lithe PrycePain

onyx crystal
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imma blow this up when I;m done

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or maybe in Gsheets

lone bronze
onyx crystal
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someone list me all the flinchers dead
and there %s TabithaHehe

forest ferry
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Soph

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Volkner

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Marnie

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Nemona

sullen pier
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Sonia, CElesa, VOlkner, Sophocles, Marnie, Nemona

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wait a minute

worldly parcelBOT
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10021900001 Blue (Champion) & Zapdos
‎ ⤷Pride of Pallet
10106800000 Elesa (Classic) & Emolga
‎ ⤷Thunder Shock: Staggering 1
10245000000 Marnie & Morpeko
‎ ⤷Thunder Shock: Staggering 2
10289000000 Nemona & Pawmot
‎ ⤷Staggering 3
10259000000 Sonia & Yamper
‎ ⤷Tackle: Staggering 2
10036000000 Sophocles & Togedemaru
‎ ⤷Zing Zap
10000100000 Sygna Suit Red (Thunderbolt) & Pikachu
‎ ⤷Thunder Shock: Staggering 4
10115000000 Volkner & Luxray
‎ ⤷Thunder Fang

sullen pier
onyx crystal
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here are all the staggers

onyx crystal
forest ferry
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Better than fire HS

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Whenever that shit happens

onyx crystal
sullen pier
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even if we got MC bonus this time Electric eggmon is still hard to slot in teams because most of them are bad

forest ferry
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Alola , unova

sullen pier
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unlike Water

forest ferry
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So no eggmon

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There's no flinch eggmon?

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I read there's one with good paralysis chance

onyx crystal
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no flinch on the electric eggs at all.
Tech Electabuzz has Thunder Wave, Electrode has HE1 Spark. And the Raichu has Speed debuffs with Electroweb.
and ofc none set Electric Terrain

amber warren
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What role of the 3 eggmon is good for this event

spark storm
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none of them are good, electric eggmons sucks

paper mist
amber warren
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Ah i see

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I upgraded Raichu AcerolaPensive No use then

paper mist
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Atm these are my planned teams for it

amber warren
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RoarkNerd Can exchange blue to an unova support for extra score or sth

paper mist
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Why would I change out a master fair for an offtype support

amber warren
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BeaBurger Ah replacement

paper mist
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Cant put him in the team if he isn’t out yet DianthaSmile

amber warren
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Also alola is theme i guess so throw extra Hau around might not be a bad idea

paper mist
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The extra 1k isn’t a huge loss

amber warren
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BeaBurger 1k = 3k tho

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can reduce strength and less mental heath issue

spark storm
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but it's not worth it if it makes the team worse, usually easier to keep the team and increase strength

paper mist
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You get a higher score overall from going for higher STR than nerfing yourself to get a 1k theme skill

spark storm
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1k is just 33 str

amber warren
paper mist
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What

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He can do damage and sync as well, eggs are garbage at damage outside of Gyarados and Perrserker

spark storm
amber warren
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No what i mean damage from Normal Hau nothing compare to SS Hau :V not problem if you switch him around

paper mist
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Dual striking is a thing

amber warren
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Does Normal Hau sync better than SS Hau?

paper mist
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They’re all in their places for a reason, like Heliolisk against Surge for Accuracy debuffs since we can’t heal, or Electrode for Clemont to debuff SpA so Parabolic Charge heals him less.

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I didn’t just throw them around randomly

amber warren
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BeaBurger Didnt say that

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Oke your choice it haven't come yet so i cant say much

amber warren
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No sleep unit seem like -acc the best strat here

forest ferry
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Just bring flinchers

amber warren
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BarryPogChamp Oh forgot

forest ferry
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Evasion hax not as reliable unless you have V.kris

amber warren
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Only Volkner and Sonia can flinch right?

worldly parcelBOT
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‎ ⤷Pride of Pallet
10106800000 Elesa (Classic) & Emolga
‎ ⤷Thunder Shock: Staggering 1
10245000000 Marnie & Morpeko
‎ ⤷Thunder Shock: Staggering 2
10289000000 Nemona & Pawmot
‎ ⤷Staggering 3
10259000000 Sonia & Yamper
‎ ⤷Tackle: Staggering 2
10036000000 Sophocles & Togedemaru
‎ ⤷Zing Zap
10000100000 Sygna Suit Red (Thunderbolt) & Pikachu
‎ ⤷Thunder Shock: Staggering 4
10115000000 Volkner & Luxray
‎ ⤷Thunder Fang

forest ferry
amber warren
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BarryPogChamp This bot is helpful

forest ferry
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Also
If you use SSTred for flinch, it's skill issue

amber warren
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WEEZing Was about to say i will try SST Red flinch

forest ferry
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His flinch might be good in a whale roster actually

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Where you can try double dps with him

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For single dps, wasting chances to spam boltackle in limited timeframe isn't worth

amber warren
forest ferry
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Sonia also pretty hard to use as flinch bot

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Since he presses TM 3x and potion atleast once before getting to tackle
Unless you tackle 2x at start

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Which isn't rly good for setup without self-sufficient dps

amber warren
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And forgot staggering 2

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Btw does boss still have the thing that protect them from status after they recover?

forest ferry
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Ye
Resilience still there

amber warren
forest ferry
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I mean
Without it, there'll be 1000 str runs

amber warren
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Yeah

atomic rain
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is soph nuke good

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or just use for zing zap

onyx crystal
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take a look at his atk stat

amber warren
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Static shock 5 and cake walk

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But only 255 atk 4*

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MC pikachu has 274 atk 3*

paper mist
amber warren
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This will be helpful

sturdy glen
onyx crystal
sturdy glen
onyx crystal
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I just listed useful passives, I haven’t fully combed each stage.

sturdy glen
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Ok thanks

onyx crystal
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Preliminary pass.
cElesa, Nemona, ssHau are 1/5

cyan tusk
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Have you considered HJasmine with marnie? SEup power trips will hurt

paper mist
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Volkner has Evasion strats so I'm using Lodge Elesa against him to get accuracy buffs

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my only other limited Elec options are N, who is stuck at 1/5 because I'm gonna be selecting Raihan from PF ticket

onyx crystal
onyx crystal
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I'd consider maybe Sophocles (Toge) instead of the mcPika

paper mist
cyan tusk
sturdy glen
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@onyx crystal are eggs rated so low because of the severe competition?

paper mist
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they're rated low because they bring almost nothing useful

cyan tusk
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There’s no main character bonus this time

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(And there’s no egg that provide ET)

paper mist
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they also lack Flinching and I don't think any have Potions either?

onyx crystal
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No Flinch, and no Terrain, most of them are just for buffs or paralysis.

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Yeah none of them have potion.

cyan tusk
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I mean unless anybody wants to go with piercing gaze striker raichu… PrycePain

onyx current
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Thoughts on these teams (almost everyone is ex)

paper mist
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is Clemont the main damage dealer for Surge?

onyx crystal
onyx current
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Ye ik

paper mist
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I'm using him there but purely for accuracy debuffs, don't gotta worry about healing as much if I only get hit by sync moves EthanGenius

onyx current
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Why are so many physical units recoil units it’s so annoying

paper mist
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because there's almost no physical Electric attacks

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you'll have to blame the main games for that one

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spark, wild charge, thunder fang, electric punch...

onyx crystal
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I forgot Nemona isn't a tech. So she works vs Clemont. EthanGenius

sullen kestrel
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Does anyone have thunder punch besides nemona?

paper mist
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yup

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I didn't get her from dailies sadly

onyx crystal
paper mist
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and some eggs

sullen kestrel
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Oh yeah

onyx crystal
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electabuzz line only

onyx current
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Doesn’t help my electric roster is so small lel

paper mist
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though even if I DID get her I can't get any copies, my yellow candies are all being used next month

onyx crystal
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if only Electrode wasn't garbage SurgeRIP

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volkner and clemont ex? nice

paper mist
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Vris BarryPogChamp

onyx current
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I EX’d them last month because of this announcement

paper mist
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Mine’s alright

onyx crystal
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I was hoping for vKris rerun.

onyx current
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I’m going to 3/5 Kris with this event

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If CElesa wasn’t rerunning I would’ve prolly pulled for 5/5 Nemona

paper mist
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I think people were expecting SS Hau to rerun after seeing how fast LySS reran

onyx crystal
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cElesa + ssHau I would've probably pulled for.

sullen kestrel
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I hope I can get the medal so I dont have to worry about it LarryDead maybe if its 200k for top 10k I can do it, I got 193k for water and I was only aiming for 180k so I kept the difficulty as low as possible

paper mist
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I'm just curious what the medal will turn in to if you already have it

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a single iGoldPowerUp ? 5? 10??

sullen kestrel
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Its a general mission so idk if u can even claim it again

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But if someone makes it to top 10k who had it before id like to know

onyx crystal
worn bronze
sullen kestrel
onyx crystal
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just get top 10,000 again

chilly kayak
sullen kestrel
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Yeah but u cant claim a general mission agn right?

chilly kayak
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this is not a medal you get from a limited mission like event rerun medals (VA and such)

sullen kestrel
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Yeah thats what I was wondering

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Coping they wont include the ppl with the medal in top 10k when its handed out Hopium

red pendant
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so wait

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is BP Soph, like, actually good for High Score?

rough forum
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Not really

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Imo

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For 300-400 STR and lower

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Sure

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For higher, doubt

red pendant
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welp, I have no idea why people suggested BP Soph to me then

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I...will post my Electric-type roster AFTER I got Marnie, tho

atomic rain
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if you’re going for medal he isnt that good

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also recoil in longer fights is just

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eh

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he does have standfast 9 innate though so it’s less painful at least

sullen kestrel
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Hmm… PrycePain maybe I can get blue before it starts, and ill be going for N from the free select (my raihan is 3/5 alr, and ive been wanting N for lodge anyway)

rustic summit
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bp sophokek can also get like, standfast 3 on top of his standfast 9

sullen kestrel
atomic rain
rustic summit
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yeah the extra mitigation is tiny

amber warren
amber warren
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Ah BP

atomic rain
rustic summit
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it's worse on roark because of the diminishing returns on standfast

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head smash recoil is funny tho

atomic rain
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7+5 is almost the same as 9

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the point is literally the exact same lol

rustic summit
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rly? i've never bothered calculating it because roark only ever comes out for funny moments but that's neat if so

amber warren
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BP Soph is not bad tho

sullen kestrel
amber warren
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Medal chaser or 180k enjoyer?

rustic summit
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already got the medal meself

sullen kestrel
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180k enjoyer but dont have the medal yet

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Its fine if I dont get it but id like to so I dont have to worry about it later on

amber warren
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You have marnie tho she will bless you with medal

sullen kestrel
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Maybe most who got it last time wont try, I think I was in ultra 1 for a while then went to ultra 2

amber warren
sullen kestrel
amber warren
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Most people do 180k but end up 200k+ or sth

sullen kestrel
amber warren
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Yeah

stray dust
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There's just no motivation to even attempt more than 180k for me after I got the medal

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unless dena come up with a top 100 medal

amber warren
rustic summit
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one single voucher per 5000 points AgathaInhaler

amber warren
stray dust
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But going through that rng hell agn nope hard pass

rustic summit
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having a number of vouchers that doesn't end in 5 or 0 rubs me the wrong way

amber warren
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CobalionSquint some event give that

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I stuck with 4 iPowerUpTicket a while ago

stray dust
amber warren
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You cant WulfricKEKW

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That is the problem

stray dust
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Well then live with it

amber warren
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Diagnosed with ocd for odd number....cringe CobalionSquint

stray dust
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I have 249 now lol

sullen kestrel
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Rn im at 3/8 bcz I reached 193k last HS SophoKEK

pliant temple
onyx current
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I saw someone ask if sophocles nuke was good and I wish I was lying when I said this is with al his multipliers up

rough ginkgo
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What’s the enemy def stat?

rough ginkgo
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I got this vs 96 defence with no sync buffs, no e terrain, offtype (not that you’ll max cakewalk by first sync)

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Also for the high score event, you’re very likely to have at least 48 extra attack from theme skills

onyx current
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Oh I had it on himself and not the enemy woops

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Thats better (its not(

rough ginkgo
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What’s the def stat/number of sync buffs/is this offtype/does this have e terrain?

onyx current
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.

onyx current
rough ginkgo
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NFacepalm i’m dumb

onyx current
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idk what the MPU is tho

rough ginkgo
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Its the innate nuke (flinch)

onyx current
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o

onyx crystal
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@pliant temple can you unpin that It's already linked in the main pin

onyx crystal
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thanks

outer whale
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alright, @onyx crystal i'm gonna look and do some studying on the battles and the unit themselves. gonna go down the list on units I have.

onyx crystal
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  • Lt Surge: Mid Mostly Special (except Gyro Ball)
  • Golem is physical. Electrode is mostly special.
  • Volkner: mid mostly Special (Facade)
  • Luxray: Physical, Togedemaru Physical
  • Elesa: All 3 are Physical
  • Clemont - All 3 are Special
  • Electabuzz has Giga Impact tho
  • Marnie: Mid + Togedemaru is Physical, Raichu is Special.
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Volkner has Dark-weak mid, which seems good for marnie.
Marnie has Fairy-weak mid, which seems good for ssHau.

forest ferry
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Not good for sshau

outer whale
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Lt Surge & Raichu:
Lt Surge: D
Dealing with special attacks, so can't really defend well, does have endurance and speed buffs to compensate.... His healing prowess is severely nerfed too (First aid 4 + Synchro Healing

Volkner: C
Evasion might be a problem for him since he has no accuracy buffs. He is able to tank some physical hits, but also has to deal with specials.

Elesa: A downright his best match, Can paralyze reliably and can tank an all physical opponnent. his only problem might be able to tank discharges from sides.

Clemont: C
Same as Volkner tbh

Marnie: C can defend, but physical buffs will mean nothing in this battle.

forest ferry
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DG barely outdamages the bmove on type

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Tho sshau is still very viable vs Marnie coz the stage doesn't have electric moves other than sync

rough ginkgo
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And taking dazzling gleam tiles subtracts energy from his already expensive grid

forest ferry
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So you bring volkner or smth to assist, hau can nuke the stage down

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Only stages terrain seems flexible are surge and Marnie afterall

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Also Id say B for BPsurge vs Marnie
It's his second best match up stage

onyx crystal
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I'd like fix ncBlue. Is there a stage he wants to be on?

forest ferry
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No
He's ASSSS literally

onyx crystal
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I only want one S rank per row.

forest ferry
onyx crystal
forest ferry
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If EX is possible he'd be EX in those 4 S stages and S in A

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That's how dummy good he is

onyx crystal
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maybe I'll rank one of them S+ 😛

forest ferry
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Well if I were to consider whale roster, he'll likely be used vs Marnie ig

onyx crystal
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that was my thought as well, since it's literally special only rule

outer whale
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HoliJasmine:

Lt Surge: D
Her only perk is defense buffs and endurance this match. lack of healing neuters her greatly
Volkner: A
With the amount of potion refreshes she has, she can tank fairly well while also giving your striker defenses to tank strong hits in general. Regen also helps immensely. her only downside is that SEUP is worthless. At least Lithe is there to not be paralyzed. If you have Marnie, She can buff Power Trip for an Easier KO.
Marnie: B
I'd argue A IF you somehow want to use her to paralyze, but there are better paralyzers to begin with, and even then.... she needs 3/5 to do so more reliably tbh...
Clemont: B
Same as Volkner tbh
Marnie: B
Again, same situation tbh

forest ferry
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So ASSSS+ SophoKEK

outer whale
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thought she was new years. my b

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same general area of holiday lmao

forest ferry
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Id say Holi jasmine is just B for all stages except surge

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Targetted defense buff and MPR reliance not that great

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And paralysis is in abundance for electric

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Potential best stage for her is volkner if you run Marnie coz powertrip hits type advantage

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eleSSa is hard RosaThink
Can't rly think of anything good other than vs volkner for acc buffs
Other stages she works if you are sync acceling

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Very partner dependant,So CBCCC?

outer whale
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EleSSa:
Lt. Surge: A
Funnily enough, Sync Acceleration for this battle will be a godsend due to no healing. having sync faster will allow you to try and rush much more easily when the opponent will lock any sort of healing. Crit rate might be a bit rough, but with a self-crit buffer, this can be invaluable for this battle.

Volkner: C
Rotom on Rotom action.... jokes aside, Opponents aside from Luxray does not have Pinpoint entry allowing you to utilize Evasion fairly well. Ridicure can also be a good gimmick to try and recover from any attacks that somehow do hit. the only attacks you may have to watch out for is Swift and Luxray's crunch which can easily dispatch the elec boi

Marnie: B
Paralysis and again evasion can work really well here, however the biggest thing I have with this is that main has Aerial Ace. With no Lithe either, Go viral 9 can screw your entire team if Nuzzle hits EleSSa.

Clemont C
Opponents have a lot of Pinpoint entry which will make it difficult to do evasion strats.

Marnie: D Same situation with Marnie with go viral. Due to being dark weak and Togedemaru +2 pinpoint entry on G I G A I M P A C t..... Yikes

forest ferry
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She good vs surge?

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She felt very nemona dependant for surge

onyx crystal
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she might be D on marnie for being dark-weak

forest ferry
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Coz not enuff Accel

rancid perch
onyx crystal
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just get 6x MPR on tm

forest ferry
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Volkner has evasion so you can buff your dps with accuracy from eleSSa

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Arguably her best matchup unless your box has nemona

outer whale
onyx crystal
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there's a crunch on that Luxray in the Volkner stage

forest ferry
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whos talking abt main tank eleSSa she suks as main tank SophoKEK

outer whale
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evasion tank

forest ferry
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She can't pull that job without nemona

outer whale
rough ginkgo
forest ferry
outer whale
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it should be mentioned that EleSSa DOE HAVE accuracy buffs....

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which could be good on Volkner.... but HilbertHmm

onyx crystal
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if eleSSa isn't tanking for a team, then who is?

forest ferry
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Well I am just using eleSSa vs volkner as subtank

rough ginkgo
worldly parcelBOT
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<:CATEGORY_STATUS:967450751955771402> Make Some Sparks!

Gauge: - | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: 2
Target: Self
Effect Tag: -
Raises the user's Attack by 1 stat rank. Applies the Critical Hit Next effect to the user. Raises the accuracy of all allied sync pairs by 1 stat rank when the terrain is Electric Terrain.

Sync Pairs with Move:

10115000000 Volkner & Luxray

rough ginkgo
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Anabel jumpscare

forest ferry
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I don't have nemona or another good electric tank

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So Analax it is

outer whale
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that's a fair point. so right now EleSSa atm is looking like ACBCD?

rough ginkgo
forest ferry
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No
Anabel my beloved

rough ginkgo
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If she’s 2/5 or more you can just give 1 copy ValeriePlead

forest ferry
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Id say eleSSa is atworst B vs volkner

outer whale
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oh god, joltik is next.

forest ferry
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Coz she can still subtank

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Joltik ez
A for clemont, B for surge and volkner, C for Marnie and elesa

rough ginkgo
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Wait lodge elesa also has accuracy buffs WulfricKEKW

outer whale
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BBCAC

onyx current
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I posted teams earlier but should I move clemont (base) elsewher I feel like that team is lacking serious fire power

outer whale
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i want to go into detail first than just say letter grades

forest ferry
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Well she has spl def buff so she's not as recommended vs very physical focus stages

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So that alone pretty much removes Marnie and elesa

outer whale
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I'd argue Volkner would be A For Joltik

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Joltik has sp def all, and accuracy buffs to counter evasion

forest ferry
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Nah
Other than discharge, almost every moved are physical

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She does have toughen up iirc, but it's a slow setup

outer whale
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volkner is mixed though, and the accuracy buffs will be useful for that battle.

forest ferry
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Well
That's why B vs volkner
Her best stage is still clemont

onyx crystal
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survivng mid's damage is more important imo

onyx current
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I’m kinda worried that elesa is too frail

outer whale
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the biggest thing going for her is the accuracy buffs being +2

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hold on, let me see her grid rq

forest ferry
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Both sides have physical moves and volkner himself has facade PrycePain

onyx crystal
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Maybe she's S for clemont?

outer whale
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OOOOOh.... HOLD ON

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She has Hem in 2

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30% to lower Evasiveness

forest ferry
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You would likely reset the stage during discharge anyways

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So all that left for mid is facade and Swift

outer whale
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yea, her biggest problem are the physical hits

forest ferry
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But it's her best stage

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Since other stages just not as accessible

outer whale
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gonna do Magneton now. We can go back to units talked about when we get everyone initially.

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seeing him already, already good for volkner.

onyx current
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Mfw 150 ex

forest ferry
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Yea very middling stats

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She ain't tanking any physical hit without def buff

onyx crystal
onyx current
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I’d give her a B+ myself

forest ferry
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Magneton is amazing wherever you bring terrain

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He has ER3

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Both defense buffs

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And acc up to take volkner

outer whale
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ok, initial impressions on Clemont Magneton is looking BABBC...

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he has X accuracy all and Omni def buffs.

onyx crystal
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Let's say you have every unit, which support would be left out?

forest ferry
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Id say S for surge and volkner, A for Marnie, B for other 2

outer whale
#

NCBlue just destroys any stage tbh

onyx current
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Vkris seems like a
BAAFB

forest ferry
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Roster*

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Coz vs Marnie you can bring terrain

outer whale
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the biggest thing on C is that screech will be useless

forest ferry
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Id say B if that's the case

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Also he's excellent vs surge

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Coz surge is top candidate where you throw in terrain

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None of his moves are electric

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It's AABBB atleast for him

outer whale
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Sonia time

forest ferry
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OK
C for surge

outer whale
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p much, SeleneLul

forest ferry
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Coz no heals and mixed stage

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Id even argue D

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Even the sync is special

outer whale
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she DOES have flinch

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that can be useful.

forest ferry
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Hmmm well if that's the argument to make her C, then it's fine ig

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Volkner is mostly physical stage other than discharge and Swift and you reset for discharge anyways

outer whale
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i'm seeing.... CBACB?

forest ferry
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Yea

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That sounds about right

outer whale
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Marnie i initially put C, but again, flinch pushed it to B

forest ferry
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Marnie is also a physical stage

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So def buffs and crit still help
Ontop of potions

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Her best match up is defo elesa

outer whale
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defense crush and physical buffs is the only problem

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for marnie battle i mean

forest ferry
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Yea

outer whale
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oh boy... SSTRed

forest ferry
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She still works if you are only going to press TM and potion anyways

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Ah yes

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S for surge

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Hands down

outer whale
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absolutely

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sync acceleration, Elec terrain, AND flinching

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yea, easy S

forest ferry
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Volk and elesa A ig

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Coz the stages are electric moves

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But he still works very well

outer whale
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yea, SAADD

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S a d

forest ferry
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Sadge

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Next one is regular surge

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Man has spl atk down

outer whale
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oh god, idk Electrode's kit

forest ferry
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So can use vs clemont

outer whale
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let me look at his grid

forest ferry
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His para also 60% chance iirc

outer whale
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he does come with +1 crit, so EleSSa might be a good pair?

onyx crystal
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also buffs his own evasion, and pep rally on X speed

forest ferry
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He's okay choice vs clemont

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He debuffs spl atk

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You aren't going to nuke with him at all

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And his para chance also makes him decent vs elesa

onyx crystal
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but he'll die to the first sync

outer whale
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yea.... he's going to be a good option to plug in if your team is already overkill tbh

forest ferry
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It's fine
That doesn't mean he's gonna be A vs clemont either

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Imma say DFBBF

outer whale
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I would say.... F on Volkner, A on Clemont just for the Spatk drops

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oh nvm

forest ferry
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Why vs volk

onyx crystal
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volk's sync is special

forest ferry
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A on clemont too high SophoKEK

outer whale
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volkner has a lot more Special attackers and special sync

forest ferry
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Ah right

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Then DBBBF

outer whale
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Wait

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Surge is tech

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so um.... Clemont will unga bunga him

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even before sync

forest ferry
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He's for kamikaze

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Drops 6 spl atk and then dies to sync

onyx current
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How do these teams seem I don’t think they’re too good

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I made some adjustments

onyx crystal
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high chance to be KO'd by a Electroweb or Swift from sides

outer whale
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Problem i'm seeing with clemont though is AOE moves

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swift, Para charge, and electroweb

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that sounds like a C

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Very LOW C

forest ferry
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Yea nvm D vs clemont

onyx crystal
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Why D on Surge? Surge mid is special?

forest ferry
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Sides

outer whale
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does Last word go through endurance?

onyx current
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No unless PB

forest ferry
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Nope

outer whale
forest ferry
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just put D for everything

onyx crystal
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why F for Marnie?

forest ferry
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More I look at him, more bad he gets

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Marnie is physical

outer whale
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i mean, he does have some use for Clemont for spatk debuffing...... 😬

forest ferry
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Yea but -80% stats

outer whale
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yea...... MortySigh

forest ferry
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If there wasn't Swift on sides I'd consider

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Coz Swift is guaranteed hit as well

outer whale
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i do not have Variety Kris to help with this one.

forest ferry
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Vkris has evasion

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Shit ton of evasion

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S for surge and Marnie

outer whale
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while you do that one, i'll work on the next unit

onyx current
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Team evasive maneuvers evasion debuffs

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Has more debuff on grid

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Oh she debuffs spatk too

forest ferry
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S for surge coz you can build evasion or spl atk down on vkris
She has terrain so she doesn't get countered for using it

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Marnie also can be evasion hax'd with her

onyx current
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She also buffs aoe crit

outer whale
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Volkner Luxray
Surge: S
Volkner: A
Elesa: A
Clemont: D
Marnie: C

forest ferry
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Why only C vs Marnie?

outer whale
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the flinch is good for Marnie

forest ferry
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Shes a terrain nuke much like sshau

haughty haven
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Flinch good for every stage

outer whale
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is Marnie's sync electric or dark?

onyx current
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Electric

outer whale
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that might be tricky..... maybe Low B.... but watch out for sync

forest ferry
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Perfect unit vs Marnie

outer whale
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noticing all of Marnie's moves aren't Elec

forest ferry
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Has sync cure and lithe

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So even if partners don't have lithe, she can cleanse paralysis from nuzzle

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Atleast high A tier vs Marnie

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SAAFS atleast but I'd take SAAFA as well

outer whale
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ok..... Moving Volkner Luxray to B because of both Lithe and Elec terrain usage.

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so SAADB

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D is purely because of flinch

onyx current
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Volkner also has electro propulsion so he can server as a tank

forest ferry
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Volkner can be A vs Marnie tho

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Terrain still pog

onyx current
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You also don’t use Volkner for damage or sync

outer whale
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that is true, I actually never tried Tankray

onyx current
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Like ever

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Or me when I’m poor player at the start of the game

outer whale
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I do not have Celesa.

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ummmm all i know is that she's a debuffer and she sets elec terrain

forest ferry
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Celesa is S for everywhere except clemont

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Debuffs and aoe paralysis is god

outer whale
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really.

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what's on her grid specifically?

forest ferry
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She has flinch

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Albeit only 20% chance

outer whale
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Heliolisk...

forest ferry
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She also got powerplay and conductive sync in recent expansion

outer whale
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actually.... Heliolisk can be really good for Volkner

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the accuracy debuffs

forest ferry
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Best vs volkner

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Countered by clemont coz clemont

outer whale
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he also has spatk debuffs via electroweb

forest ferry
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Okay in other stages

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BACFC

outer whale
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i'd argue S on Volkner

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Accuracy debuffs, and can never miss

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why is Lt surge B?

onyx crystal
forest ferry
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Yep clemont

outer whale
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imma need insight on B

onyx crystal
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But he can't heal vs Surge

outer whale
forest ferry
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Why S vs volk
I'll not use clemont if I have better stuff

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He's no KriSS for misty vs water HS

outer whale
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Spatk drops + Accuracy debuffs + Never miss

forest ferry
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He has to choose between spl atk drop and accuracy

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And it's all 1 stage drops

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Spl atk drop not even guaranteed

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Like
Celesa has guaranteed drops

outer whale
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fair enough. HilbertHmm

forest ferry
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If clemont is S, celesa is S+

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Any score clemont gets, celesa will be atleast 1 stage higher

outer whale
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wow..... do we really only have 3 electric strikers?

onyx crystal
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physical ones

outer whale
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OH

forest ferry
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Also volkner is great vs Marnie
Only physical damage is cut in that stage

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He still has flinch and terrain

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Atleast A

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If anything he'll be lower in stages that actually deal electric damage

outer whale
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zebstrika is already F on Surge

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Recoil damage on a no healing stage

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lmao

forest ferry
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I'd say B for volkner
Evasion not fun for her

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But she does have lithe

onyx crystal
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it's easier to list electrics that don't have lithe

forest ferry
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Zekrom should be same rating as what elesa got

outer whale
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also, it's incredibly comfy knowing that most elec units are weak to ground

forest ferry
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Except A vs surge

crimson python
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today is high score day?

forest ferry
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No

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But we making grade sheets

outer whale
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we're doing preliminary rankings

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just based on kits and the battles

onyx crystal
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Don't have Lithe:
mcPikachu, Hau
Clemont
bpElesa, ssElesa, Sonia

outer whale
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Um.... I'd actually rank Zekrom at least higher than D because Piercing Blows

forest ferry
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BP soph is basically same as elesa for scores as well

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Vs surge?

outer whale
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yes

forest ferry
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Well zekrom is ABAAF

outer whale
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oh that works

forest ferry
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Same as elesa for all stages except surge

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Next is BP soph
Same as elesa

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Those 3 are physical electric strikers so scoring won't be much different

outer whale
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Ash time.

forest ferry
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Ah yes

outer whale
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B thunderbolt

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curious to see how broken this will be lmao

forest ferry
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S vs all stages

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Ezpz

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He counters all stage gimmicks

outer whale
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that double endurance tbh

forest ferry
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Beats down everything

outer whale
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I would at least put Surge as A though

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not S because no Healing

forest ferry
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He has 2 protects and 2 endurance vs surge

onyx crystal
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another ASSSS

forest ferry
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That's the bulkiest striker you are getting vs surge

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Even SSTred isn't tanking 4 hits against surge

outer whale
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NYVolkner is...... a Striker.

forest ferry
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It's SSSSS for ash

outer whale
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definitely a striker of all time

forest ferry
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Uhh he's same case as zekrom