High Score

[forest ferry]

Unlike water eggs where 2 of em are top tier and I had to 5* techdos and 4* techstoise
And still not use em at all

[haughty haven]

||4star 17/20 level 135 no lucky skill||

[rough forum]

Unironically might consider running electrode Vs special stages lol

[atomic rain]

die

[rough forum]

How

[forest ferry]

You could have just solved that with water guard

[rough forum]

How do you not have

Blue cookies

Wtf

[atomic rain]

its the

[rough forum]

Or yeah type cookies

At least

[atomic rain]

lavender ones

[haughty haven]

Water guard doesn’t help him survive Sync

Well at least my wake and Marlon are 5star after this event

[forest ferry]

Nice

So you are ready for water HS rerun that's after 3 years

[haughty haven]

I dont know if this game still live until that happen

[forest ferry]

It's a gacha game with strong IP

So it has no death

Considering that horse waifu gacha is still going strong

[rough forum]

^

Uma musume sells like gold

Poma won't EoS before 2027 unless something huge happens

[warm kayak]

they did?

[haughty haven]

Nice, then you will see more stuff like my wake and marlon

[rough forum]

Yea

[haughty haven]

[rugged drum]

I can’t reach 10,000th place, but this might be nice for archives

[warm kayak]

can i get celesa rerun thanks

[forest ferry]

JP Twitter announced it even before datamine

[warm kayak]

its this month?

[haughty haven]

No

[forest ferry]

September

[warm kayak]

they better rerun celesa or else

[forest ferry]

You mean

[warm kayak]

she didnt rerun as long as i started playing

[forest ferry]

Tapu Koko and zekrom double banner

[warm kayak]

marnie and N you mean

[forest ferry]

Well lyss got early rerun

That's why tapu koko

Marnie will be the PF rate up

[warm kayak]

so they are telling up to get Nemona

even though i cant see how she helps exactly

[forest ferry]

5/5 nemona is like super busted

But like

5/5

So

[haughty haven]

Why

[forest ferry]

[warm kayak]

gl getting 5/5 till September of a new type

[forest ferry]

Team evasion, staggering, def drops , paralysis

[haughty haven]

4/5

Evasion team buff

[forest ferry]

Def drop is 5/5

[rough forum]

So is evasion

[warm kayak]

she cant do damage herself outside of sync tho

[forest ferry]

Evasion is 4/5

She's there for utility

Not for damage

[haughty haven]

She kinda like SS Koria

[warm kayak]

yeah but you have units that do both

and these are THE best ones

[haughty haven]

Thunder Punch has many multiple

[forest ferry]

Not for 5 teams

Which is where nemona comes in

[warm kayak]

unless you are gunning for top 1

[forest ferry]

[warm kayak]

i think Ash + Red will be enough to hit top 10k

easily

[forest ferry]

You mean top 500

[warm kayak]

i kinda want to get her because future lodge

[forest ferry]

Those 2 alone can get 200k

[warm kayak]

but at the same time im never gonna use the unit outside of a filler

[haughty haven]

I will just daily and hope for the best

[rough forum]

Yeah she's not a unit I'd risk 36k for

[haughty haven]

So scare because Anni is coming

[forest ferry]

I am skipping
Already have ash, SSTred, zekrom, elesa and tapu koko

5 teams already

If I want to ditch elesa, I can run cerena/zerena/ssdiantha/irida/adaman depending on weaknesses of stage

It'll still net me 350k+ ez

[warm kayak]

i dont have zekrom

but other than that 3/5 EX SSTred, ash

1/5 Koko

[haughty haven]

This is enough

[warm kayak]

and something tells me anni unit will be electric

[warm kayak]

(again)

[haughty haven]

Look

[forest ferry]

Having and not having those 2 is what gonna make big difference

Not nemona

[haughty haven]

My electric pair

[forest ferry]

Reminder that water was also like that

Cerena and sskris are way more valuable than any of the actual rate up units

And both are MFs as well

[warm kayak]

from this update im getting tempted by Gloria also

but they just had to take away part of her sync multiplier on flying mode

chance of flying being the weakness for fire is high

[forest ferry]

I am ez skipping gloria
I don't want her to outshine my blaziken of all things

[warm kayak]

i dont have a blaziken

[rough forum]

Gloria is funny but like rose, her 3 typings aren't that important

[warm kayak]

1/5 ss red and 1/5 vilda is all i can do

[rough forum]

2 gauge pyro ball is hilarious tho

[rough forum]

You have vilda

[warm kayak]

she sadly needs 3/5 for accuracy

[rough forum]

You're set lol

[warm kayak]

(gloria)

[forest ferry]

I only have ssmay

[warm kayak]

i mean, i also have enough gems for ani and stuff

[forest ferry]

And I only need her

Coz I run her with adaman and bulu

[warm kayak]

i was planning to pick up one more unit before anni

[rough forum]

I only have...Leon, 3/5 ssred, 2/5 anni N, that's it

[haughty haven]

Time to off type with broken master pair

[forest ferry]

Not in a fire team

[warm kayak]

Anni N will be good

[forest ferry]

I hope Hilda PB before fire event

So that it gives me workable 5 fire dps to run

Coz I don't have 5 of those somehow

[warm kayak]

i dont even know how many i have

[grand perch]

I’m just aiming for 180k so not too worried haha

[forest ferry]

Silver, 1/5 leon, 4/5 SSred, 3/5 ssmay and 5/5 Hilda(after PB maybe) for me

[atomic rain]

hilda is a workable dps

[forest ferry]

My fire is outdated

[atomic rain]

but like her nuke is just better

cuz 2 sf5 is kknda

eh

[forest ferry]

That's why I want PB

The SF9 and crit/atk buffs from somewhere is ez fix

[atomic rain]

Elesa treatment

[rough forum]

Ye

[atomic rain]

yeah i think hilda’s gonna get an elesa style pb

probably speedster’s sync 5 or even inertia

and sf9

[forest ferry]

She already has inertia so probably atk based multiplier

[warm kayak]

right, since its electric next we might get Zapdos as BP Pair

[gentle thistle]

Will probably need to EX someone for the next one as well

For this one I had to EX OG Kris for the last round to get masters

Any change of reruning Ash?

[long oyster]

(X) Doubt

It'll probably be a double pokefair again

I say N and Nemona

Or N and Hau actually

[stray dust]

C elesa and hau imo

But yeah not having ash or sst red will hurt there

[long oyster]

Celesa does make more sense than N I guess

[rough forum]

Btw my 361k ended up 124th, not bad

[stray dust]

Good thing I decided to increase my marlon

Got me to top 70

[rough forum]

Yeah there's only so much I could do without lyss and 3/5 cerena

Or eusine

[proven slate]

For the next high score event, who'd be my best 5 DPS out of these? Alr know I'm using elesa and N, just got BP Sophocles for this, was planning to use volkner as a terrain support but if the remaining units r worse than him might just use him as a dps

[forest ferry]

Offtype

[proven slate]

😭

[forest ferry]

Usually Uber strikers and S+ and above utility

Anything less gonna be way less score

[proven slate]

Like all 3 non electric u mean?

How wud tht even get me a good score

[forest ferry]

No

1 non electric

[proven slate]

Ic

[forest ferry]

2 electric

You can get the BP clemont, BP surge and lodge elesa

Those 3 can tank

[proven slate]

So stick the hyper offensive electric supps w the Off-Type team to clear high strength? And then keep the weaker suppps w on type team

[forest ferry]

Yep, that basically

[proven slate]

Gotchu

Thx

[forest ferry]

That's how I did some runs

[proven slate]

Makes sense

[forest ferry]

For water event

It's usually Uber stuff

[proven slate]

I j needa get the minimum for max rewards and I'll be fine, never did off type water but I defo have to now ☠️☠️

[forest ferry]

Well you only need 300 str runs with 1 offtype comps and 200 str with full electric team

For 180k pts

[proven slate]

I think I never did any above like 200 or 210 last time ya

Hopefully it'll be fine 😭

[rancid perch]

last time sstred was probaly the best off type option but this time you're encouraged to use him

[forest ferry]

Actually best offtype option is aura cyn

Coz

Yknow

Super high strength

SSTred is like 3rd best

But red was most unga bunga at getting the high points

[timber bronze]

@true sparrow Massive respect my friend, well done

[forest ferry]

I remember running SSmorty at 800 str, the problem was the dps I was running with him

[timber bronze]

I salute your patience

[cyan tusk]

Will be up to the gimmicks but N for sure bc he’s gonna ignore them all

Or at least the passives

[forest ferry]

We didn't have any annoying passives for water HS tho

[proven slate]

I mean I'm definitely using N and Elesa at the very least

Volkner too

The rest r iffy

[cyan tusk]

I’m gonna ex elesa (zebstrika) and lodge elesa for sure

Elesa is gonna be equally important as OgKris

[rancid perch]

there's a tough skin stage for N to ignore
but the stage is dragon weak anyway

[forest ferry]

Outrage dps

[cyan tusk]

The forbidden lessen confusion 9 N grid

[forest ferry]

But zekrom already has clearheaded in grid iirc

[cyan tusk]

I do expect also any stage with dark weakness bc my marnie is gonna shred it 🔥

[cyan tusk]

There’s confusion boon 3 on outrage which works when N is confused

So lessen confusion 9 allows him to use the multiplier and not being hit by himself

[forest ferry]

That's outrage PS3

Oh wait

CB3 is at top left

[atomic rain]

but why use that

[forest ferry]

Dragon weak middle

[atomic rain]

even with the 30% its not on par with bolt strike and u still gotta use it first

[forest ferry]

It's 60% boost

Coz PS3 and CB3

[lone trout]

Just barely

[worn bronze]

oh yeah...what was the cutoff number

[chilly kayak]

pins

it really didn't go as high as people claimed it was gonna go, but still a decent jump

[atomic rain]

it was 232k

i think

[worn bronze]

i'll be curious to see the electric high score unit and compare, it'll prob be lower but who knows between now and then

[chilly kayak]

unit selection isn't the best so I doubt it's gonna be overall as high, guess it will greatly depend on how high the rats can go

[rough forum]

I was expecting 210-15 at best

Tbfh

[worn bronze]

pressure is on me then

[rough forum]

Most people that were between 10k and 2000th rank in this water hs won't bother imo

[chilly kayak]

let's be real, it's mostly the top 500 or so that will keep with the try-harding

[worn bronze]

i'm in that sentence and i don't like it

[chilly flame]

I’m in that sentence and I don’t like it

[atomic rain]

i dont have ash or sst red so electric is gonna be a struggle

[rough forum]

Nah

I'll try only if the stages are fun

Like Marlon

[atomic rain]

the stages were not fun whatsoever

[atomic rain]

how

💀

[worn bronze]

tbh only the Lana stage wasn't fun

[chilly kayak]

hence mostly

[worn bronze]

the rest you could get around it

[atomic rain]

you guys have a weird definition of fun

[rancid perch]

the stages starting with powerful moves is pretty unenjoyable tbh

[atomic rain]

^

they all can do that

t1 blizzard eq liquidation icicle crash

[chilly kayak]

heh, tell that to the Gauntlet folks, having their own "fun" for a while already

[atomic rain]

stupid shit like that is what made me reset 99% of the time and there’s literally nothing you can do to manage that

[rough forum]

Resetting on turn one

[atomic rain]

gauntlet is easier than this

[rough forum]

Is whatever

[atomic rain]

because you always know what they’ll do

[worn bronze]

gauntlet is pretty tedious tbh, i did enjoy going brr

[atomic rain]

it just depends on the unit doing what you want it to

[chilly kayak]

maybe, but I doubt is not more tedious

[rough forum]

Resetting on turn 5 because you didn't flinch mid twice sucks

LG is sleepfest

[worn bronze]

cuz you can hypothetically go forever with gauntlet

[rough forum]

HS is actually challenging

And you can actually invent your own clears

While LA is just optimal variables

[chilly kayak]

yeah, and even if you have to reset and deal with RNG a lot, it's 5 battles you can tackle individually at the end of the day

[long oyster]

HS uses the game's non-written mechanics pretty well

[rough forum]

Yea

[long oyster]

So yeah it was fun

[chilly kayak]

Gauntlet is just a slog no matter how you look at it

[rough forum]

It's also malleable

You can pump a stage you have a good team for

At 700

And have everything at 250-300

Still get easily all rewards

Meanwhile in next lg I still gotta clear moltres thrice

[atomic rain]

everyone vs moltres

[worn bronze]

HS is also not win streak based, you can reset a round

[atomic rain]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-burning-hell-pain-gif-17379863

[worn bronze]

LG if you screw up u gotta redo it all

[chilly kayak]

Moltres can go die in a ditch, dumb fire chicken

[worn bronze]

moltres ptsd

[atomic rain]

deep fried moltres

anyway i pushed lana purely out of spite

because my old scores wasnt enough

[cyan tusk]

Me, both a gauntlet and a high score folk:

[worn bronze]

high score and gauntlet are gonna run every other month

no rest for those that like both...

[long oyster]

Simply start hating one

[cyan tusk]

Which is gonna be me, me and me I suppose lol

No btw this Lg is tedious so I’m gonna keep grinding 5* pu coupons but I’ll try push harder in the high score event bc for now I do have lots of good units

I’ll be surpassed by 5/5 nemona havers but that’s life

[long oyster]

Whats the next lg again

[atomic rain]

lg2 rerun

aka hell

[long oyster]

Dont tell me thats Moltres Uxie

[cyan tusk]

And latias

[long oyster]

B R O T H E R

I'm doing 10 and dip

[sturdy glen]

[atomic rain]

why do you think i called it hell

[cyan tusk]

Nemona Havers with the other 5/5 limited units too

[cyan tusk]

Bc it’s the hellish we ever had

[sturdy glen]

• agree on N and Marnie
• Hau should be ok at 3/5
• Jasmine will be at home thanks to the select
• Vo(megalul)lkner should be ok at 1
• rats are ok at 3/5 and if not… I’ll still fight for every single point

it should be a good fight..
and i love fair fights 🔥

[cyan tusk]

Marnie is gonna be the same as lysandre bc she has dishartening shock 9 while N gets crit and an additional multiplier

[sturdy glen]

yeah i know

[cyan tusk]

The stuff with no 5/5 grid is fine at 3/5, the additional damage is not gonna make a difference

The patience for paralysis procs…yes.

[sturdy glen]

i lost my mind only to flinch chains
so this should be a joke

[cyan tusk]

Lessen paralysis 8 is waiting for you

[sturdy glen]

oh u mean the full para...
i don't wanna fight for the rank 1

[cyan tusk]

Well… I do

[worn bronze]

[chilly flame]

“Ferb, I know what we’re gonna do today”

[blazing birch]

Latios crying

[onyx crystal]

5/5 tile on a new role unit, so no candies except generic

[chilly kayak]

the whales won't care

[cyan tusk]

Also staggering 3

[atomic rain]

staggering 3 is thankfully a 3/5 tile

[chilly flame]

Yes I’m only gonna be able to get her to like 3/5

[rough forum]

Yeah but it's very badly placed tbfh

[chilly flame]

That and haymaker are horribly placed

[grizzled ocean]

Okay how screwed am I on this electric event if I don’t have the broken pikachu s

[rough forum]

You most likely will still get 180k

With some trial and error

[grizzled ocean]

Idk man I don’t even have 15 electric units

[onyx current]

Idt most players do

[grizzled ocean]

I do have gems for nemona tho

[rough forum]

Yeah without broken units you're gonna run 2 electr + broken ontype

[onyx current]

Don’t pull for units just for an event

This event is rats or bust

[grizzled ocean]

Okay but nemona seems broken tbh

[onyx current]

She’s alright can’t really do to much damage

[cyan tusk]

Honestly the tm MPR is very good bc she can apply endurance and protect to the whole team with 1 MPR

[chilly flame]

I know it’s impossible to plan since we don’t know the special conditions but you reckon something this?

[cyan tusk]

Haymaker and ss5 are badly placed tbf

[onyx crystal]

You'll probably have someone to apply paralysis.

[rough forum]

Yeah

[cyan tusk]

If you have to

But I do agree with Sages we can delegate paralysis to someone else

[chilly flame]

True

[cyan tusk]

So, smth like this

Even if also catalytic kick may be useful, we’ll have to see the conditions

[onyx crystal]

I'm more upset that I can't get 1.9x on Thunder Punch with haymaker and staggering

[chilly flame]

Bruh

[cyan tusk]

Yeah but she will have to cast the tm on her allies

So you’ll be able to snitch a couple of punches just for flinch

Having protect on the whole team to tank the first sync will allow a huge increase in strength

For max points

(Am I really already explaining my strategies? Yes.)

[rough forum]

Enjoy the grind bois

[onyx crystal]

resetting for 6x tm procs

[cyan tusk]

I do think 1 tm is going to be enough

[long oyster]

It's HS

[rough forum]

I'm not investing resources just for this

[onyx crystal]

though Soften Up 1 is a godsend

[cyan tusk]

Bc she have already another MPR through passives

[onyx crystal]

less rng

[rough forum]

I'll settle for 200k

[cyan tusk]

So a total of 3

[onyx crystal]

Well her banner goes to the 28th so we'll have anni datamine before she leaves

[rough forum]

@cyan tusk Actually no

Her sync only refreshes a buddy mp

🙂

Not the TM

[cyan tusk]

Alright, 2 mprs is not gonna be THAT BAD

I’ve been doing even worst RNG runs

[rough forum]

If she had a general MPr on sync

I wouldn't have bashed her all day

[cyan tusk]

Like sync burst like normal units

[rough forum]

As a unit not worth risking 36k on

[cyan tusk]

But no we have to be special

[rough forum]

[cyan tusk]

Like rose

No extended range

But let’s file another 6 lines long passives just bc ppl have to 6EX him for the AoE on sync

[chilly flame]

No it is, we’re just scarred by other horrible rng experiences that 2 MPR’s doesn’t even seem bad

[cyan tusk]

You are speaking of RNG with somebody who did the sstred Moltres solo

[chilly flame]

I am speaking of RNG as someone who solo’d Uxie and Azelf with Jirachi

That was really fucking annoying

[rough forum]

I did azelf third try

Still haven't done uxie tho

[cyan tusk]

Still haven’t candies my jirachi

Sitting on a comfy 2/5 lmao

[chilly flame]

Mine is chilling at 4/5

[rough forum]

3/5 here ofc

Like his sister

Speen

[cunning shore]

If they do strikers debuffs in electric i am worried

[rough forum]

Nah maybe this time they do tech -80% + huge reduction to Phys attacks

Just to cut 2 stages off red

[cunning shore]

My whole electric roster is Strikers 😂

[onyx current]

That looks like all electric units that matter

[cunning shore]

7/13 strikers

[chilly flame]

Emolga would be good

Marnie too

[cunning shore]

Gems pls

[warm kayak]

solo Sonia on Tornadus... THAT DAMN POISON

[onyx current]

Just run antitoxin lel

[rancid perch]

I would not mind having an excuse to candy marnie to 5/5
but perhaps celesa or sshau would make better use of the candies, if they rerun

[cunning shore]

I got my medal, this next one I am only gonna get my rewards and leave

Unless I find it easy to climb lol.

[chilly flame]

I did already

[warm kayak]

just mentioning what scarred me, took me way too many hours due to bad RNG

[onyx crystal]

not following my own advice

[chilly flame]

What’s electrode doing

[candid cobalt]

Mutual support

I’m just worried cos electric supports are kinda frail apart from Sonia and HolJasmine

[long oyster]

Givinga *3 Multiplier

[onyx crystal]

Well both my surges are EX.

[chilly flame]

Just kill them before they kill you

[candid cobalt]

So true

[chilly flame]

I thought about using Zebstrika

But then I remembered what zebstrika does

Not a fan

[candid cobalt]

Recoil lmaoo

[worn bronze]

It’s too early to plan for electric high score lol

[candid cobalt]

It’s never too early

[onyx crystal]

I forgot surge had no self crit buffs

[onyx crystal]

She’s one of the better Gen pool strikers though.

[desert elm]

Now of she wasn't so self inflicting.

[long oyster]

It's high score

You're gonna spam nukes anyway

[chilly kayak]

Spark gaming

easier on gauge even

[warm kayak]

SS Elesa acceleration MPR hax

[waxen thorn]

If it's not 100% it's 50%

Then you put butter on of the sides of the bread and it'll always be heads

[stray dust]

People are alr building teams for next high score?

[rain sierra]

Would Red and Ash be the only time you can get 3000/3000 in clear speed?

[rain sierra]

OG Elesa post-PB is good. Does a few SE Electric with her

[plush raven]

Is it even confirmed that it is electric?

[lone bronze]

Tweeted on Japanese account

[plush raven]

Can you link me?

Oh I just saw

Well hope this is enough

[forest ferry]

I have DPS but not enuff tanks

Well if I get celesa ig I can replace soph from ash team atleast

And replace BP soph from elesa team

Hjasmine rollers winning

[outer whale]

I won't lie, I think I enjoyed High score more than Legendary gauntlet.

[worn bronze]

[chilly flame]

It’s a perfect mix of challenging and fun

Imo

[worn bronze]

i didn't expect to redo the stages to get a higher score so much

but i really enjoyed it

[outer whale]

Like, with High score, I can just go all out with my units and actually experiment with the tools I have.... whereas Legendary gauntlet, I feel limited... Like it's hard to explain, But it makes me want to use the weakest units possible to beat a level, but it also makes me anxious that my weakest team is not weak enough.

[chilly flame]

Exactly

[worn bronze]

its because you're trying to 'save' units for later clears

[chilly flame]

You literally use everything you have and go all out until you physically cannot do anymore

[outer whale]

and i do like that about gauntlet, but it becomes monotonous to me.

with high score, I can definitely replay it as much as i like, but I can also increae or lower the difficulty as much as I want and see how far I can go. With that said, the RNG of the battles makes the replay value a double edged sword.

on one hand, every run will be different so you'll never know what you'll deal with......... but on the other, every run will be different so you'll never know what you'll deal with.

[chilly flame]

I think that just doubles down as a good thing because that makes the winning result that much more accomplishing

Like when I did this after 2 days of resetting, I was so full of adrenaline

The only thing that stopped me from yelling was the fact that my dad was sleeping

[worn bronze]

i still remember the lana battle when marlon has unyielding proc 4 times

that's the adrenaline you're talking about lol

[forest ferry]

Me resetting for Nessa to miss post sync razor shell 2x

[outer whale]

the adrenaline, i love, but I also feel like winning by the skin of your teeth feels incredibly satisfying especially since the battles are not really that long?

[chilly flame]

Yup

[outer whale]

meanwhile gauntlet feels drawn out to me.

[chilly flame]

In my Marlon fight, it was when barbaracle hit itself in confusion 3 times in a row and then I got a flinch with brutal swing

That was when I knew I finally won

[worn bronze]

i uesd to record LG fights and they would be 7 min videos lol

Go ham on two rounds and pray for the other three?

Other Jasmine of course when I can select scout

[forest ferry]

Stuff like surge/BP clemont isn't tanking high str without potion or flinch hax

[worn bronze]

I mean

It’s what I got unless I use non electric lol

[forest ferry]

Can do MCchu and sophocles

[worn bronze]

[forest ferry]

Sonia Defo doesn't need sophocles in same team

[worn bronze]

On the bright side, the supports are horrendous for everyone

[forest ferry]

You can also bring clemont to drop accuracy

Evasion hax

[worn bronze]

It’s also 1/5 N and 2/5 Marnie. The rodents are 3/5

[forest ferry]

Ugh
I don't rly like 1/5 zekrom

[worn bronze]

I don’t either

[forest ferry]

Don't know abt Marnie tho

Coz no Marnie for me

[worn bronze]

But I’m out of strike candy and even if I did have them I’m not using them on N

So..yeah

[forest ferry]

Does she have stuff like flinch?

[worn bronze]

I got her on select scouts while going for another unit so I can’t even tell ya

I have barely used her in serious battles

[forest ferry]

Also I'd just run elesa over hau

Hau sucks

[worn bronze]

He does, but idk about 2/5 damage output from Marnie

I also don’t know how tryhard I want to be since my units aren’t as good as the water counterpart

And I have medal anyways..

Like I’m just looking at units that might have some synergy since we don’t know the opponents and stuff

[forest ferry]

Well Marnie mostly for powertrip

There's likely atleast 1 dark weak mid for her to sweep

[worn bronze]

Yes which is why I split them

Maybe there will be a round where supports take extra damage

If dena want to be evil

A physical/special damage dealer round most likely

[forest ferry]

I don't think electric has any tech units that can tank

Even water only had SSmisty and she was super reliant on evasion post sync

[warm kayak]

Volkner can

but you will rely on flinch and terrain

[forest ferry]

Well ssmisty buffs both defenses and had trouble

Volkner has like no defensive buffs except ER3

Man's Defo dying to sync

[tiny ore]

unfortunately my select scout is going to pal mallow instead of hjasmine

[tiny ore]

surge evasion tanking

Aka how to torture yourself

[tall arrow]

I think that the Palentine pairs are more worthy of the combined tiered rerun, if you are targeting both, they have more high quality units that would be nice to be spooked by, unlike old Christmas seasonals

[tiny ore]

i'm talking about the select scouts this month btw

[tall arrow]

Yeah yeah, I mean that if you are willing to spend for the tiered reruns once they come, getting jasmine now imho would be better, considering that doing the tiered rerun for mallow lather on is a bit more valuable

[tiny ore]

i'm grabbing palmallow for LG

She just functions so much better than hjasmine at 1/5

outside of the type event

Not a better option for me imo

I can't afford to spend support candies for a while bc they're all going to my favs so the 1/5 utility is very important

[tall arrow]

Fair enough, I don’t do long runs on the LG, so I don’t know how they compare to each other in that regard, ahah

[tall arrow]

I still need to upgrade SS Acerola and PBea, so yeah, I understand (Bea has been postponed for 1.5 years now 💀)

[tiny ore]

I really want the spdef debuffs on mallow bc they're rare asf for some reason

she's gonna be amazing for a dragon type event

[cyan tusk]

And alolan supports are kinda rare too honestly

[forest ferry]

Dragon event with just drake for F2P tank

I need 3 offtype tanks

[tiny ore]

Lisia is technically a tank

[forest ferry]

Nice defensive buffs for team to tank enemy sync

[tiny ore]

lisia comps are stills gonna be janky

bc they're still gonna show up and they're gonna be weird

[crimson python]

any details on high score battles?

[sullen pier]

if you mean the next HS, we only know its focus type is Electric and it comes in Septepber

we know nothing else

[crimson python]

oh

i wanted to know where nemona could fare in these battles

[maiden canopy]

How many ET setters do we have? 4?

[worldly parcel]

Conditions:

1: 3* Min Rarity | All Pairs (Limited Included) | Type | Electric Terrain‎

------------------------------

Elesa (Classic) & Emolga
‎　⤷Max Lightning, Max Lightning
Kris & Jolteon
‎　⤷Power Plant
Sygna Suit Hau & Tapu Koko
‎　⤷Electric Terrain Debut & Extension 5, Power Plant
Sygna Suit Red (Thunderbolt) & Pikachu
‎　⤷Electric Terrain
‎　⤷Red’s Fighting Spirit, MAX Conductivity
Volkner & Luxray
‎　⤷Electric Terrain
Volkner (New Year's 2022) & Electivire
‎　⤷Conductive Sync

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[haughty haven]

6 electric pair can set

I dont even remember Kris Jolteon

[forest ferry]

2 of those have extension

So it's hard to time the sync with em

But well if they follow water HS,2 stages might not have water sync so they might still be able to go unga bunga for that

[haughty haven]

Imagine one stage is ash and he uses volt tackle

[forest ferry]

Well Ash is impossible

Maybe red with boltackle

[cyan tusk]

She’s gonna be good bc of sp atk debuffs

[rough forum]

At 1/5 very poorly
At 3/5 pretty well
5/5 is gonna be a huge difference for top 100-200 rankings

[sullen pier]

she is promoted to be one of the focus of the next HS so yeah

[forest ferry]

Top 5 gonna be affected based on having 5/5 nemona or not

[crimson python]

honestly 5/5

doesnt have anything much

like i can use some supports to supplement 5/5 tbh

[haughty haven]

4/5 for more Rng

[crimson python]

aka bp clemont or xmas jasmine

[forest ferry]

You just run nemona with ash
Since SSTred will be in different team

[crimson python]

evasive manueveurs?

i think thats a joke tbh

[haughty haven]

Evasion good for stupid high str

[forest ferry]

Well all cerena runs are evasion focus

[crimson python]

no ash no red

[forest ferry]

And she's like laziest 90k str run

[crimson python]

im banking on nemona rn

i have strong electric supports but not the dps side

[forest ferry]

Look at your electric supports again

Its so bad for everyone

Only good ones are Sonia and hjasmine

[crimson python]

i mean i have those

[forest ferry]

Others are 240 defense gang

[magic sandal]

You’re not gonna have a fun time if this is the case ngl

[crimson python]

what a bummer

[haughty haven]

Now i think about it, electric so lack SpD Buff support

[magic sandal]

Nah evasive maneuveurs would actually be really good for hs event

[crimson python]

all the good dps are all ♂️

[forest ferry]

Best spl def support is BP clemont

[magic sandal]

Cause higher strength clears can be reset heavy evasion clears

[forest ferry]

Who I am Defo shoving with SSTred

[haughty haven]

Just BD Clemont and H Jasmine

[forest ferry]

SSTred, BP clemont and MCchu

[haughty haven]

Right ?

[forest ferry]

Hjasmine is targetted no?

[crimson python]

imma candy hjasmine to 3/5 for this

[worldly parcel]

Conditions:

1: 3* Min Rarity | All Pairs (Limited Included) | Type | Special Defense Up‎

------------------------------

Clemont & Magneton
‎　⤷Eureka!
‎　⤷Tighten Up 3
Elesa & Joltik
‎　⤷X Sp. Def All
Elesa (Classic) & Emolga
‎　⤷Sparkle and Shine!
‎　⤷Light Screen: Barricade Buddies 1, Max Guard: MAX Barricade Buddies 2
Jasmine (Holiday 2022) & Ampharos
‎　⤷Comforting Light!
‎　⤷Full-Bracing Command 9, Full-Bracing Command+ 9
Lt. Surge & Electrode
‎　⤷A Surge of Power!: Barricade 1
Lt. Surge & Raichu
‎　⤷Tighten Up 1
Marnie & Morpeko
‎　⤷Lucky Entry 2
Sophocles & Togedemaru
‎　⤷X Sp. Def

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[forest ferry]

I don't remember her kit exactly

[crimson python]

hjasmine 3/5 tile will help the pmun or smun stack

[forest ferry]

Oh hey

Joltik

How could I forget

[haughty haven]

Oh Electric dont lack SpD buff

[forest ferry]

She's better than bp clemont

[crimson python]

severely lack electric special dps

hau is the only electric special dps i have

which is absolutely pathetic

[haughty haven]

Me too

[forest ferry]

I am running smth like this

Might move units around based on how actual stages work out

[crimson python]

im jealous

[forest ferry]

If they do celesa banner I am rolling it

And she'll get shoved in ash team

[crimson python]

Oh wait a min

i can use clemont

and then heal and defend

and mud slapping

[haughty haven]

Suggest what i can do with 15 pairs

[forest ferry]

For SSTred and zekrom copy my team
For others just offtype dps

Oh yea elesa pretty pog

So only 2 offtype dps

I dunno how good golem nuke is tho

He has decent atk atleast

[haughty haven]

Idk if 1/5 N can do enough dmg

[rough forum]

Team Evasion and defences drops:

[forest ferry]

Only dd3

No golem nuke

So yea
2 offtype dps

[haughty haven]

I dont even want to EX anyone

Maybe i can EX for key song

[rough forum]

Then why are you banking on the worst electr DPS in a long while?

[haughty haven]

Hope daily bless me with some good unit or Anni has broken Electric type

[forest ferry]

I only hope for celesa banner

[haughty haven]

||And wish i have it with pathetic Gem Dena give player||

[forest ferry]

Preferably double banner with sshau

So I can get 5/5 hau

And celesa

I wouldn't mind skipping anni for that

5/5 hau with U9

[haughty haven]

Remember Dena only give 24k gems

[weary rivet]

What if anni has an electric pair

Miraidon or Zeraora

[forest ferry]

I still want celesa more

Already have enuff dps

[haughty haven]

Maybe is broken than Ash

[weary rivet]

Save support candies for the BP Dana and Zapdos

[forest ferry]

I hope I get 3/5 Shauna for grass HS

It's likely the next one

Or fire

My fire is the one that needs dps

But don't want to roll Gloria alt

Coz Hilda PB

[haughty haven]

Lucky Shauna will come to Tickets Kalos Banner this Anni

[forest ferry]

Uhhhh

I spent mine

For PUs

Water HS

I can do 1 roll as of now

[haughty haven]

I always spent all my tickets

[forest ferry]

3/5 Shauna will be so good for grass HS

Mini potion MPR, shielded on TM, wise entry and sentry entry

[haughty haven]

But i’m maybe that lucky that beside the Gen 5 Rival normal pair, all my general pair all more than 3/5

Sr i dont remember his name

[forest ferry]

I got 9 of em at 2/5 and below

[haughty haven]

I dont play b2/w2

[forest ferry]

High

High*

Goddamnit

[haughty haven]

[forest ferry]

Hugh

There

Normal HS is just dps hugh

[crimson python]

celesa is good

but the dps

isnt outstanding

[forest ferry]

I'd say 70% chance electric PF HS to be celesa+sshau

If it's not sshau, it's gonna be zekrom

[magic sandal]

Norman slander

Actually Whitney slander

[rough forum]

Why tho

[haughty haven]

Because i’m not good with LG

[forest ferry]

Forcing me to use Norman and Whitney itself is a sin

Actually

Whitney is good flinch bot

But still

Dps where

[rough forum]

They're so useless I just wait for Anni every year

[haughty haven]

[magic sandal]

Oof

[forest ferry]

Pykuo's account looks like mine

[rough forum]

Ok you MUST have started like last preanni right?

[haughty haven]

Yes, i played when i saw Anni Raihan

[forest ferry]

I am day 1 pleb

But have been on hiatus during SSred release and ssmay release

[rough forum]

Well that explains it

[haughty haven]

I remember that time SS Serena is out

[rough forum]

[haughty haven]

And i pitied her 2 time because i’m stupid

[forest ferry]

Hey atleast she's good

Better than pitying anni may 2x

[rough forum]

Lol I actually think I remember you

[haughty haven]

No

I didnt join discord yet

And i said that doesn’t mean i chose SS Serena 2 time

[forest ferry]

Wait what

[haughty haven]

Yeah because i didnt know anything about this game

So i chose

||Lillie||

At 2nd Pity

[forest ferry]

||Not even Sonia||

[rough forum]

[mortal timber]

Staggering 3 too can be useful

[crimson python]

@mortal timber oh u pullinh nemona?

[mortal timber]

I am on the fence if pulling this month

[crimson python]

oic

btw long time no see

[mortal timber]

It has been a wild and confusing update so

I gotta wait

Same, how is it going?

[crimson python]

spending gems lol

was trying to figure how to use nemona effectively without red or ash

coa most ppl suggested red for nemona team comp

but like is that the only teqm comp she can perform

i mean in high score

[mortal timber]

And that's true, cuz if you wanna debuff with her, you gotta need para and sacrifice dmg

[crimson python]

her debuff needs 4/5

[mortal timber]

Nemona is a weird one ngl

Yeah

[crimson python]

which is pain

[mortal timber]

Very expensive unit and uh

Her nodes are all over the place

Difficult to get everything

[crimson python]

yea

[mortal timber]

If not impossible

I do wanna get her even outside a context of electric high score

[crimson python]

how would u build a team comp with her

[mortal timber]

Personally, Nemona, Tred and whatever other third unit, maybe a supp

[crimson python]

cos if done right i think she would be better than having 2 support EXes in the team

its just that she needs the dps and im not sure if her b move is good (might work like ash)

[mortal timber]

Her b move is a mystery yeah

I hope it's like absurd power to compensate thunder punch and the rest of her kit

Since she has that factor of max speed as effect

The more speed the more dmg

But I dunno

I mainly wanna get her to start build my paldea roster

[crimson python]

yea

[mortal timber]

Just to get prepared for future ebes paldea themed

And other region locked stuff

I think she can do good in HS but with the right units

Alone can result quite difficult to manage stages, unless again her b move

[crimson python]

yea

[cyan tusk]

Only marnie has def debuffs actually

Btw 5/5 Nemona is also REALLY expensive as energy investment in grid, so I don’t think it’s gonna make so much difference

Bc there’s Eva but also no damage at all if you go for Eva and staggering

[haughty haven]

BP Clemont, Sonia and SST Red, that all def debuff that dont need grid i know

[cyan tusk]

Oh you’re right

Bp Clemont mvp

Also time to ex some elesas

[desert elm]

This is gonna be a real pain in the ass to deal with. Because there’s literally two good Electric tanks.

[rough forum]

I exed magneton 6 months ago, underrated unit tbh

[haughty haven]

Yeah, these unit always be forgotten, like i remember water high score in first few day, most didn’t know Marlon have Acc buff

[rough forum]

I'm sad alola golem won't be insane in hs

Because he's best in lower hp stages

[stray dust]

I mean we don't even know the stages yet do we

When our choices are limited some sync pairs will still find use

[rough forum]

Yeah but high strength is +60-70k hp

Lol

Alola golem is a recoil unit

[stray dust]

Just run 2 recoil unit

[rough forum]

By definition he's not gonna be as great as in csmm or la

[stray dust]

Well hugh got used in CSMM

Tho that's for meme

[haughty haven]

Hugh is Gacha Pair if you going to use his recoil move

[atomic rain]

well you can use hugh

in lg

but hes more of a tank/flincher than dps

[haughty haven]

He is tanky

[atomic rain]

ik

[haughty haven]

With high Hp and has 2 life

[atomic rain]

thats why i said tank

[haughty haven]

And his nuke is good too

[stray dust]

Or just keep winning the coin flip

[rough forum]

Anyway, alola golem won't get to shine and I'm sad, he's my favourite BP

[haughty haven]

Maybe when Normal High Score come

[stray dust]

[haughty haven]

[stray dust]

Rng round

[haughty haven]

“I win this stage with Hugh”

“With just 15 times win 50/50”

[stray dust]

Easy

[onyx crystal]

So Enlightment doesn't interact with our Evasion buffs right? So Evasion buffs are twice as effective as Accurcay Debuffs, right? Assuming they have Enlightenment 5.

[rough forum]

Yes

Can't have a resistance to an opponent's buff

[magic sandal]

I agree

[magic sandal]

Yes, enlightenment will interact with accuracy debuffs so if an enemy has accuracy resistance it will affect the actual evasion chance

Hence Evasion buffs are always >= to accuracy debuffs

As at worst they equal them

[crimson python]

the thing is even if she has good stuff at 5/5 , the energy required to reach at the cost of others is just too high

im trying to understand how dena trying to sell her meta

[rough forum]

I mean her DPS is so ass

That I bet you can grab evasion

Without hurting her nuke too much

Especially because you won't likely need HE9

[carmine cedar]

In a few months it will probably make sense when we get more of these units

I say this coming from Genshin, there were quite a few units released during Inazuma arc (2.x) that looked trash until Dendro came in 3.x

It's probably them preparing

[forest ferry]

She's purely for electric HS

I doubt she's gonna be better than SSTred at any point in the game

If only she had rebuff

[crimson python]

i mean i do get the role usefulness

[forest ferry]

Her kit is a mix and match
Pretty much reminds me of year 1 grids

[crimson python]

but yea u are right, just that there are no good teammates other than sstred

[forest ferry]

Theyll most likely observe how people play nemona and then expand other Speedster units like that

Like how they made OG Steven

[rustic summit]

as a top 300er

nah i'm phoning it in for future HS events

[crimson python]

im gonna get flattened in the ranks for red and ash users

[warm kayak]

yeah he might be actually very good for this kinda stuff, his heal gets huge

[warm kayak]

25k now

[worn bronze]

that's the nature of these events going forward unfortunately

[rough forum]

Yeah water was the best shot to get master medal tbfh

[cyan tusk]

Btw Nemona gets released 7 hours after reset

That’s kinda weird

[sturdy glen]

Probably it’s linked with the JP anime airtime

But still weird because she has been already shown there

[haughty haven]

Nice, still isn’t enough for me to pity 1 pair

[rain sierra]

I would only have 1 1/2 pity by end of August

This is harsh

[mortal timber]

[forest ferry]

Ash and SSTred users getting crushed by nemona users that also own ash and SSTred

[livid tusk]

What Teams are we dropping with?

[forest ferry]

We don't know the conditions of the stage

So no teams yet

[livid tusk]

Volkner time to Sync Nuke? Zebstrika goated?

Fair

Theorycrafters not that invested yet I get it

I actually think those are like my only really solid options for DPS

[forest ferry]

I mean

There's no stuff to TC

[livid tusk]

Why does Lightning have so many Supports?

[forest ferry]

Most electric stuff are also limited

[livid tusk]

True

[forest ferry]

There's like 2 dps and 4 tanks for budget one of em being sselesa

[desert elm]

Like 2 takes and 1 blitzer.

[true sparrow]

I mean there are 5 supports total, only one is limited

6 actually

[forest ferry]

Well on plus side, the def and spl def is more evenly split than water

Water with almost every good one being defensive tank and those missing sskris suffering through misty fight

[worn bronze]

not really saying much there

[cunning shore]

Where do we access info on the electric high score stages?

Or do we not even know when it's happening?

[forest ferry]

We have no info

Other than electric event on September

[cunning shore]

Ooo they said September
Cons of skimming through everything

[worn bronze]

Really the only thing at this stage is resource hoarding for it in case I feel like using them for the event

[forest ferry]

Good thing we know it's electric a month early

I'd be crying if I had to EX 3 supports right away without knowing what's coming

[tiny ore]

idk if I'll be using my ex hau this time

i've got better options but i like hau

[livid tusk]

I love us getting SSKris reran after the Water HS Event ended

Still pulling on her

[warm kayak]

contrary to water, electric can attempt more dual strike where 2nd unit is just mediocre

SST Red can ignore sides which is great, Koko can too to some extent (?; mine is 1/5, just zone bot for me atm)

Ash can delete the middle and his sync should hurt sides greatly too

and he can live 2nd sync using his protect with the right conditions

after these 3 the type falls off greatly, altho Marnie has quite good dps with Power Trip

genuinely looking forward to see what the community ends up cooking with the lesser known units tho

some of the electric tanks can be very good in the zone

[forest ferry]

Well electric is pretty limited heavy on dps

Supports are available but still not super top tier like water

Hey atleast flinch bots are pretty strong

[atomic rain]

i mean we only have like

3 flinchers for electric

og volkner sonia and sst red

[forest ferry]

Sophocles

How did you forget?

[atomic rain]

because i only used him for nuzzle against cobalion

[forest ferry]

Also nemona has flinch at 3/5

[atomic rain]

is she out though

[forest ferry]

Tbf having 3/5+ nemona or not is what gonna decide the top 5 ranks

1/5 nemona still shit

I just noticed celesa's flinch is just staggering 1

So that's a useless tile to consider

She has some fun stuff on grid tho even then

Like barricade buddies and shielding strikes

[warm kayak]

stat changes are huge

the event is more susceptible to it than csmm

[forest ferry]

Celesa might be best in slot with ash unless you have 5/5 nemona

[warm kayak]

zone for the B-Thunderbolt... yeah i can see it

i feel like Jasmine might also be best in slot with Ash

stack tons of Special Moves next before using it

you can buy some turns by using TM mpr etc beforehand

and she can do the infinite potion thingy if you are lucky... as much as what, 5-6 potions is doable

i just so happen to not have any of them

🤣

of the two I mean

which shouldnt be a tragedy, maybe 10k points less total on an already high score

i really feel like I have guaranteed top 10k with just Ash and SST Red 3/5 and most I will have to do is 5* or EX some other unit

[forest ferry]

Jasmine gonna need lot of MPRs for the run

Atleast 4 MPRs

[warm kayak]

one Comforting Light MPR and some potions tbh

[forest ferry]

Still have to survive sync

[warm kayak]

Ash has Protect

[forest ferry]

Also Idk if ash is better with hjasmine or red is

Coz like

Red was amazing in water event

While ash felt like shit to run

[warm kayak]

Red is way better at working solo than Ash

[forest ferry]

He doesn't hold up well without good stuff ramping him

[desert elm]

I would put HJasmine with someone else who’s not as powerful.

[forest ferry]

Eh
No

[desert elm]

Ash could go with Volkner or something

[forest ferry]

I tried that with water event, it didn't work out as well

Volkner doesn't debuff, celesa does

[warm kayak]

Ash syncs a bit higher than Kris

and also has his B Thunderbolt

[desert elm]

Remember HJas is one of only 2 Electric units with Potions.

[forest ferry]

You don't need flinch either as long as you live through hits

Biggest thing with my sstred run in my water HS runs was potion spamming

[true sparrow]

You weren't using him right then lol

[warm kayak]

he also hits harder than Kris

[forest ferry]

He didn't deal as much damage

Also annoying setup

[rancid perch]

in theory, since strength to score increase is pretty linear, putting good supports with good damage dealers seems fine

[true sparrow]

I was oneshitting Misty at 800+ strength quite comfortably with ash's b move

[forest ferry]

I didn't have sskris

[warm kayak]

it certainly falls off, but only till master, and pretty much all our runs are on master so straight up linear

[forest ferry]

So no tank for misty

[true sparrow]

Ash was tanking

[forest ferry]

I was trying to make him work vs Marlon

[warm kayak]

Ash's B Move is so powerful it still isn't powercrept a year later

[forest ferry]

Wdym

Carnie totally better

said by not me

[true sparrow]

Well I do prefer Marnie over Ash but in terms of single hit, Ash wins

[warm kayak]

Marnie's biggest strength is that she uses her stat as "unique" multiplier

which escalates everything else in her kit

[true sparrow]

It's one or her strength, but It's not the only one

[rancid perch]

marnie better, completely unbiased take here btw

[true sparrow]

Irrelevant for this point 'tho, Ash Vs Misty could abuse tanking to proc se up and moves up in pinch and get max nuke with his b move.

[blazing birch]

Marnie's main strength is to have Piercing Blows on B move

Otherwise Ash is better

[true sparrow]

Not really, no

[forest ferry]

Main thing is flinch

While dealing good damage

[true sparrow]

Main thing is having 5 separate main things and all are equally great

[blazing birch]

Who needs flinch if the foe is dead, obviously that does not apply to 500+ strength for High Score but you get the point

[forest ferry]

Does ash actually survive that long?

[blazing birch]

Yes

There is a reason why Ash is the Striker with the most LA solos by far

[forest ferry]

I meant as in for that misty fight at 800 str

[true sparrow]

Yes

[forest ferry]

Hmmm

[warm kayak]

right, Marnie has Endure and can max evasion quite easily too

i haven't been utilizing her potential ever, i should try some offregion EBE

[desert elm]

I’m starting to ponder candying NY Volkner. Also now I’m pretty happy to have JolteKris.

[warm kayak]

are you going to aim for top 1 again Runner?

[true sparrow]

Probably not, I don't have a few of the electric units, and others are 1/5. I'll still see how far I can go, but I doubt to be as high.

[forest ferry]

I am still wondering why they didn't pick grass or fire since those are easier typings

Lot of electric dps are limited

[rough forum]

Can rerun tbolt red for electr

[forest ferry]

F2P clears are gonna be hell

[rough forum]

[warm kayak]

tempted to get 1/5 Gloria just for the rebuff

[true sparrow]

I would try for Fire or Grass, but electric might be tough, 2 of the biggest units are Jolteon and Hau, which I don't have.