High Score

[ornate turret]

I want to at least break 50k for Lana, she’s so annoying

[red pendant]

hmm...okay, even if I were to change the Vs Misty team to free up May for the Vs Nessa team, I'd still have to deal with Lana anyway

Lana shaping up to be THE big wall, it seems

[candid cobalt]

You could use something like SS Blue, Grimsley and Crasher Wake

[red pendant]

...I already used SS Blue on the Marlon team, though

alongside Tech Blastoise and Nessa

hell, with that team, it was actually a clutch victory, too

[candid cobalt]

No worries, we can always use another tank

[red pendant]

so I'd rather not redo Marlon

I...suffered too much from the Marlon battle to want to redo it tbh

[candid cobalt]

I feel you

I've reset his battle about 20 times in total now

[red pendant]

I'd honestly rather reset Misty instead

I...just need to know who to replace May with in the team

...actually, would it even be a good idea to put May in a team that has Eusine and Elio?

I'd imagine that would give me HUGE Move Gauge problems

[candid cobalt]

Of course!

Nah Eusine sorts gauge out for himself

Plus May's tm also gives gauge

[red pendant]

sadly, May's TM also requires MPR luck...

[candid cobalt]

Well

As I said you do have Eusine

[red pendant]

hmm...

alright, so

[candid cobalt]

He refills gauge

[red pendant]

who do I replace May with in the Vs Misty team?

[candid cobalt]

I was thinking Siebold

[red pendant]

...Siebold?

[candid cobalt]

Secondary dps helps haha

[red pendant]

I mean...does he even do enough damage?

...wait, hold on

I just realized

[candid cobalt]

He can do pretty decent

[red pendant]

if I replace May

then I wouldn't have an MC in the team

which means I'd have to rely on Confused RNG

oh no

[candid cobalt]

Well Misty can't be confused so that's out the window

What MCs do you have...let's see

[red pendant]

• Tech Blastoise as Eggmon

[candid cobalt]

If you level up Rosa, you could use her

[red pendant]

okay, will give that a try

[forest ferry]

highest str

[red pendant]

nope, it is NOT working out!

like, not even in the slightest

[forest ferry]

@onyx crystal
Update the comps
Str:
+520
+590
+300
+520
+310

[red pendant]

...ugh...and I can't bring Archie to 3/5 either

[forest ferry]

Plz don't 3/5 Archie

[red pendant]

was my attempt at replacing May with Lodge Rosa for nothing after all?

[forest ferry]

It's a very underwhelming grid

[red pendant]

I mean...how else am I supposed to get Archie to work without May?

since I was told to use May on a different team instead

[forest ferry]

Can't you do like
2 busted teams at 50k+ pts and 3 mediocre teams at 25k pts ?

It should get 180k

[red pendant]

I can't even reach 50k+ pts

[forest ferry]

You don't have any ex'd offtype stuff?

[red pendant]

...I mean, I do, but it's offtype

[forest ferry]

2 water, 1 busted offtype can 40k pts

[red pendant]

also, I'd rather not reset Marlon or Archie

[forest ferry]

Part reason you are struggling is lack of ex

[red pendant]

I already suffered enough from both

I really don't wanna suffer even more

[forest ferry]

How much pts did you get against em?

[red pendant]

against Marlon? 44,910 pts

against Archie? 39,609 pts

[forest ferry]

Yea you can stay at those

[red pendant]

oh

[forest ferry]

Hmmm others also need similar pts tho

Lana is legit hard due to no heals

[red pendant]

hmm...I mean, if May in the Eusine team would actually help out against Nessa, then I'd have a third team with similar pts

[forest ferry]

Well did you try it out?

[red pendant]

not yet

since I am still trying to do Misty without May

[forest ferry]

Then try it and then ask for improvement

I mean

You are already struggling

[red pendant]

yeah

so if I use May in the Eusine team

I won't be able to use May in the Archie team

[forest ferry]

First, try your options

And then ask here

Don't theory craft without facing stuff yet

[red pendant]

I mean, I am trying my options, that's why I am trying to beat Misty without May

[forest ferry]

It's just a waste of time

[red pendant]

if I can't beat Misty without May, then putting May in the Eusine team wouldn't even be an option

you get what I mean?

[forest ferry]

I mean
Then try beating misty without may first

[red pendant]

I mean, that's what I am literally trying to do right now

[forest ferry]

Instead of just talking it out here

[red pendant]

and so far, I am failing miserably

[forest ferry]

Yea
Then what's the question?

Good ,then use may

Since it isn't working out

[red pendant]

okay, but if I use May on the Archie team, I'd be back to...not knowing how to make my Eusine team work against Nessa

[rancid perch]

nah this game gives way more value for your money than feh does

[red pendant]

meaning I would have achieved nothing

[forest ferry]

That can come later

Be done with Archie team first

[red pendant]

I mean, I was done with the Archie team already

I simply reset Misty

[forest ferry]

.......

[red pendant]

because I was told to remove May from the Archie team

[forest ferry]

Did you drop strength then?

[red pendant]

I actually did, and I still can't win

I dropped from 200 to 190

and I really don't wanna go lower than 190

[forest ferry]

Then drop another 10

If it gets a clear then it's good enuff

[red pendant]

not good enough for me

it needs to be not lower than 190

otherwise, I won't have enough points to get all the rewards

[forest ferry]

Fine then run may in Archie team

I feel like we are running in circles at this point, no wonder chat died out

[tiny ore]

lodge rosa is mor eof a debuffer / secondary dps btw

[red pendant]

...ya know what, we really ARE gonna run around in circles, especially if I end up putting May back in the Archie team

so no, I'd rather want to commit to a non-May Misty clear instead

[red pendant]

and sadly, Archie needs rain in order for this sync to properly do damage

...I say that, but May was the DPS/nuke in the Misty battle, not Archie

[tiny ore]

using her w/ archie is a waste bc he's special

like her main niche in this mode is 100% def debuffs

[red pendant]

hmm...wait

WAIT

[tiny ore]

and 20% flunch but that's unreliable

[red pendant]

100% Def Debuffs

do you think that could help Eusine instead?

[tiny ore]

not aoe unfortunately

Eusine is special?

[red pendant]

oh yeah

I forgot

[cunning shore]

How did Runner do this Run I will never know.
I am trying to optimize my runs and it's hell

[red pendant]

Buddy Surf is also Special

why do I keep thinking that Buddy Surf is physical?

[cunning shore]

Eusine no physical moves

[forest ferry]

Waterfall flinch

[cunning shore]

You playin Unite, Greninja Surf physical

[red pendant]

Blastoise Surf also physical in Unite

[cunning shore]

I mean, They get immune for a while, it's not working out 🫠

[cunning shore]

No 👀
Blastiose completely sp.atk

But that's off topic

[red pendant]

true

anyway, now the big question is: May on the Archie team or the Eusine team? because I sadly can't put her in both teams, yet both teams seem to want May equally

[cunning shore]

Archie desperately needs rain

[forest ferry]

You say you don't want to drop below 190 str

[cunning shore]

Eusine can live without it

[forest ferry]

So you know the answer

[red pendant]

that would only be the answer for the Archie team, though

[forest ferry]

Why are you asking same question over and over

[red pendant]

I still don't know how to solve my problem with the Eusine team

because I can't use May anymore

[forest ferry]

Use eggmon

They exist for a reason

[red pendant]

...which one would even benefit Eusine, though?

[forest ferry]

I hate eggs and I still caved in and used mine

[brave yoke]

But doesn't Archie set his own rain?

[forest ferry]

The one that sets rain

[red pendant]

...I already used that one in another team

[forest ferry]

They want longer rain

Then use smth else

[red pendant]

like what?

[cunning shore]

Sets his rain once at 1/5
Twice at 3/5

And that's that

[forest ferry]

Bro, first finish your Archie run

And then ask

[haughty haven]

Idk how Nessa complete set up to Nuke

2 side mon two

[cunning shore]

Ripple effect

But

[haughty haven]

50%

[cunning shore]

IT DOESN'T PROC DEFENSE DOWN

[haughty haven]

[cunning shore]

xD

I hate it here get me out of this

If I manage to make this 65-70k I am done with Lana completely

Not resetting ever

I see this in my nightmares now

[forest ferry]

You already got more points than me

[haughty haven]

Maybe drop Dojo from vs Archie

[cunning shore]

Pointless if I can't clear that Insert your favorite word here

[cunning shore]

I am trying to think of alternatives.
Since Dojo does so well for the final push of Archie's run

[haughty haven]

Rosa can debuff Def too, have endure too but 20% flinch

[cunning shore]

She dies 1 sync lol

I tried huehue

[haughty haven]

Yeah

My rosa 4 star die by sync at 420

[cunning shore]

5* still dies in both Lana and Archie stages

Whoever has her in their runs
Mad repect

[rain sierra]

Well, I bailed out after doing 300

[haughty haven]

I want more but i’m too poor

Cant ex my sp

[red pendant]

alright, Misty finally re-beaten with 39,255 pts

[paper mist]

Completely rearranged my teams yesterday and did Archie and Marlon, I feel confident I can do a higher Str against Archie (300 atm) but Marlon I can barely win against with 3/5 Dojoria at just 250 :/ also not confident my other 3 teams will score higher

[red pendant]

now back to...figuring out how to make my Eusine team work 😦

[cunning shore]

Well my main goal is to stay in the top 10k

The rest is me being hungry

[red pendant]

god, I hate this event

[rain sierra]

It's CSMM, but more tryhard and annoying

[cunning shore]

No Cerena?
3/5 Dojo should be able to do more I would imagine

[rain sierra]

They had to add the immunity shield, didn't they?

[cunning shore]

I mean

If they didn't

[rain sierra]

The mode would be more tolerable if you could cheese it a little

[cunning shore]

This would be cheese-able

[haughty haven]

I’m sure you will be fine

[rain sierra]

Only one single Sleep unit unless you rng the hell out of flinch

[cunning shore]

You would see some 600k scores

[haughty haven]

Drop out 10k with that point is impossible

[red pendant]

...okay, so since I can't use May

[haughty haven]

[red pendant]

and I can't use Eggmons

how else can I make the Eusine team work?

[cunning shore]

I am laid back, I try doing Lana between other duties - not rushing but absolutely losing my patience for that pos

[red pendant]

oh wait

I forgot to ping @forest ferry to let them know that I have re-beaten Misty

now they can tell me how to I can make my Eusine team work

[haughty haven]

Yeah Lana is hell if y cant end fight fast enough

[rain sierra]

Outside of getting good flinch/sleep rng, I can't think of ways not to get hit in Lana stage

[red pendant]

and I sure as hell can't end fight fast enough

[paper mist]

No Cerena. I used Dojoria, Elio and Marlon for Marlon. Need the defense buffs and the only other Water supports not in use are Lodge Adaman and Misty, neither who help out compared to getting speed buffs from Elio.

[rain sierra]

You definitely need to debuff her Def or you eat a sync boosted by Towering

[cunning shore]

Like
No heal
+2 accuracy
CAN AND WILL FLINCH AND FREEZE YOU
buffs defense easily
Annoying mix of physical and special
Lessen confusion 8.

Who made this stage

I need a word with Dena

[rain sierra]

Lana herself

[paper mist]

Got Hilbert and Lana for Archie, SS Kris for Nessa or Lana, SS Blue also against Nessa or Lana (haven’t decided who yet), and Mistyduck for Misty

[carmine cedar]

Is 200k+ the point where you need to have all 3 Water master fair (Archie, SS Kris, Cerena)?

[paper mist]

No I don’t have Cerena

[carmine cedar]

Or is it more like 240k+

[rain sierra]

I knew she would be issue when I checked on the stages before this event. No healing is extremely limiting

[haughty haven]

Yeah why she has +2 acc

[paper mist]

I have 246k and no Cerena, but yes to Archie and Kris tho

[carmine cedar]

Bruh what limited units do you have

[haughty haven]

Does she have bad hit rate move?

[carmine cedar]

I have all 3 Water MFs and still got 220k

[rain sierra]

I see some rather f2p clear getting 210k

[paper mist]

Give me a minute (bc the bot cooldown) and I’ll post it

[cunning shore]

Side has Blizzard, Hydro pump, and I think the icicle move from middle is below 100 accuracy

[haughty haven]

Lucky Misty doesn’t have +2acc like Lana

If Misty have +2 acc

[cunning shore]

They forgot

[paper mist]

25th is Wallace. Dojoria was me falling for the bait banner (but I got her in 4 anyway so).

[haughty haven]

Dear god

[carmine cedar]

Don't worry, Dojoria is Galar, and you know how premium that region is, so consider yourself lucky! /j

[rancid perch]

it is actually completely in character for lana tbh

[paper mist]

I actually did want her last year but skipped because Hoenn VA + Anni

[red pendant]

I mean, if you actually did want her

is it really considered bait then?

[cunning shore]

Cerena missing hurts a bit as she is poison to Marlon

Regardless, this is a superb roster

[carmine cedar]

I got her in 1 multi just trying to yolo, I'm kinda glad though because otherwise I'd have a lower score then

[paper mist]

Yes because Im getting Rose and Oleana and now have only 65k, and I want her far less than I did now

[red pendant]

oh

meanwhile, I am simply regretting that I tried to pity on SS May

[paper mist]

Hoping one of them comes early, cause then I’ll still be good for at least 2 pities by Anni

[charred pier]

using cerena against malon, do you kill side or mid first

[red pendant]

I honestly feel like trying to pity on the Summer Reruns banner would have been the wiser choice

[paper mist]

So uh, my 65k does not include my paid gems

[cunning shore]

Mid and Yolo pray for evasion hax

You can't take more than 2 Syncs I believe atleast at my difficulty

[paper mist]

Saving them for limited selects though

[red pendant]

so...how do I make the Eusine team work against Nessa?

I was still never able to figure that out

[rain sierra]

F2p(?) Clear. Looks similar to Hexxa. Totals to 210k

[cunning shore]

You let him attack till everything is dead

[paper mist]

That’s who I originally used against Nessa

[red pendant]

he doesn't deal enough damage for that

even as an EX

[paper mist]

Eusine + SS Kris + Siebold for Confusion

[red pendant]

...I don't have SS Kris

[cunning shore]

Eusine hits pretty well though

[paper mist]

Eusine getting Weathered Warrior 6 means he wants Weather

[rancid perch]

if you just want 180k, you could use one off type mon if you really need

[cunning shore]

He can work without weather too
In most of my runs I used him without weather

[red pendant]

my Eusine team consists out of Elio, Eusine and...essentially a filler

[paper mist]

My Eusine is 3:5 and I also take the extra trap damage buff in grid

[red pendant]

the filler was originally SS Misty before I swapped her out for...Wallace...for some reasons...

[red pendant]

mine is only 2/5

[paper mist]

Rip

[haughty haven]

Mine is 1/5

[cunning shore]

Wallace will have a hard time in this event

[haughty haven]

And he is fine

[red pendant]

sadly, I already used both of my weather sync pairs

May is already part of the Archie team

while Eggmon Blastoise is already part of the SS Blue team

[rain sierra]

You need a Def buffer versus Nessa

[red pendant]

sadly, I am already using my only remaining def buffer on Lana

[paper mist]

I didn’t use one

[rain sierra]

Either Marlon or Support Cloyster. The latter is extremely rare so it's understandable you don't have it

[cunning shore]

Nessa deals too much physical Damage

[rough forum]

Update @onyx crystal

Misty 550
Marlon 550
Lana 440
Nessa 300
Archie 430

I think I'm done

[paper mist]

I used Eusine for Nessa and LySSandre for Lana but I’m debating switching the teams. But Lana using Physical moves too makes LySS useful against her as well

[rough forum]

2 hours of raging at Nessa

[cunning shore]

That Lana run

[rough forum]

And my winning try

Has no mpr on wide guard

[red pendant]

yup, I don't have Support Cloyster

[rough forum]

[red pendant]

[paper mist]

I also do not have Support Cloyster

[rain sierra]

The "I'm at my limit" lineup

[paper mist]

Somehow

[rain sierra]

Same here

[cunning shore]

I no longer know what eggmons i have/don't

[paper mist]

So Dojoria + Marlon who is suppose to tank? Only have Elio, Lodge Adaman and Misty left for supports. Marlon can’t tank as well as Elio.

[rough forum]

Mine? Yeah I got that 400 run in 40 minutes of tries (won with zapdos at 10% hp) and never tried again

[paper mist]

Also Lodge Adaman also buffs party Defense

[red pendant]

...man, I am seriously at my limit

[rough forum]

310k with no limited water striker is rough ngl

Techs are kinda meh in this event

[red pendant]

can't beat Lana because SS Grims doesn't deal enough damage even with an EX support sync buff and Inertia, can't beat Nessa because Eusine doesn't deal enough damage even with his EX sync attack

[rough forum]

The fact sides oneshot means you gotta kill them first

[red pendant]

...am I really forced to whale now just to win? 😦

[rain sierra]

Getting a MF to get the lodge pair tho

[rough forum]

Welcome to prestige

[cunning shore]

Lodge Adaman is really good, has endurance and buffs def
Has protect with some rng and micro you can achieve good results

[haughty haven]

Wish i have EX swimsuit Misty, i sync with her so much

[red pendant]

...I don't want to get a gambling addiction, though 😦

[paper mist]

Wait, I should ditch Marlon for Lodge Adaman then since I only used him to buff party defenses, and he actually has a EX sync

[haughty haven]

[rough forum]

These events are made so people with years on their back can flex

[cunning shore]

Marlon has his uses too but less bulky even at 6*

[rough forum]

The rewards ain't worth

[red pendant]

wdym "ain't worth"

[rain sierra]

Hell, I noticed some players don't even have Lodge Rosa. That's why you shouldn't ignore lodge, kids

[red pendant]

the rewards absolutely ARE worth

[rough forum]

No event reward is worth whaling lol

[cunning shore]

She's still paper at EX

[paper mist]

Kinda sucks that Lodge Adaman really wants Rain though

[rough forum]

Not even the whole yellow candy of prestige 1 was worth

If it meant risking to pity gloria

[cunning shore]

How much out of 180k do you have?

[haughty haven]

But still

[ornate turret]

event lasts for 2 weeks, take a break, comeback later budget team = more rng

[carmine cedar]

Doesn't seem worth trying to improve points for me? I was able to increase Nessa point by 1500

All of the battles are above 40k already tho

[twin arrow]

oh god i just got lysandre 3/5 from dailies and eusine on my first single

[red pendant]

right now, I am at 123,774

[haughty haven]

I sync with her to keep my Party not die

[twin arrow]

seems like i need to grind this event again

[rough forum]

Bruh

[haughty haven]

And i’m not EX her miss 50% boost

[paper mist]

Only for the medal, if you just wanted the rewards then it’s not worth it to bother with tanking

[red pendant]

...just realized I actually did worse on Misty than previously

because that's not even my highest score I had

[carmine cedar]

I really want the medal, who knows what will the next type be

[rough forum]

It's worth if you're under 180k

Or if you find out you're gonna get cut out of the 10k

For medal

[rain sierra]

I suppose I might as well post the link for the 210k clear. Unfortunately japanese, so there will be a language barrier https://youtu.be/i3emaKgee6E

[paper mist]

Based on the lack of Supports for other types, the most likely type is Grass or Electric as both have at least 5 f2p Supports

[rough forum]

Yea

[red pendant]

inb4 they'll do Dark type next

[paper mist]

Most other types have less than 5 or only 5-6 with Limiteds

[rough forum]

Grass and electric seem fair especially because they have a ton of good techs

To disrupt

[paper mist]

Water has TONs of non-limited supports

[rain sierra]

Or they can merge it into two types. That would be much easier

Next up, Fairy and Dark

[carmine cedar]

by the way, it seems like the Classic Red guy really got close to 390k, I thought that 400k might be impossible

But maybe with extreme luck it's possible?

[rough forum]

I think y'all are going too far in the future

We had these talks in December 2020 and look how it went

[rough forum]

Definitely, I got 310k without eusine, Archie and SS lys, and with 1/5 cserena and dojoglo

[carmine cedar]

Fucking prestige event is the reason why I am a bit paranoid about my rank dropping

[paper mist]

For Electric there is BP Clemont, BP Surge, Lodge Elesa, SS Elesa, and Sonia (HJasmine is limited)

For Grass there is Lyra, Dawn, Shauna, Lodge Blue and Rosa (SSrola and Vallow are limited)

[rough forum]

I think someone with all of them + sskris at 3/5 can definitely do 90k more than me

[carmine cedar]

Am I reading this correctly, did you say WITHOUT Eusine, Archie and SS Kris(?)

[rain sierra]

I think I'm around top 800. No need to panick yet

[rough forum]

No I actually forgot about sskris lol

I have her

[maiden canopy]

Damn, JL Masters got 850 STR

[carmine cedar]

Bruh

[rough forum]

I don't have the 3 main strikers

And the two best techs are 1/5

[paper mist]

I swear Cerena is the key to a high score here

[cunning shore]

With what team

[carmine cedar]

I just need to get to a point where I can let 5 minutes pass without dropping a rank

[maiden canopy]

KriSS, Cerena and LySSandre against Nessa

[cunning shore]

Bruuh

[paper mist]

Also noticing that Lana is the key to a high score against Archie due to funny heals

[rough forum]

Good luck with that

[tardy vector]

Hmm anyway I can swap around with remaining units for a viable team?

[rough forum]

Oh yeah makes sense

[carmine cedar]

So far it seems to be 3 minutes or so in a non rush / peak hour

I'm trying to be careful with the term

[cunning shore]

What was his total score in that stage??!?

[carmine cedar]

It's when I drop several ranks in 1 minute

[maiden canopy]

He got 106k pts.

[cunning shore]

Brooo

[rough forum]

It's gonna slow down in like

[maiden canopy]

According to the title

[rough forum]

Couple days

[rough forum]

Link?

[carmine cedar]

Fucking prestige event is the reason I'm paranoid about my rank in the first place

Never again will I let myself drop out of master

[maiden canopy]

https://youtu.be/2xrq_oUurfw

[paper mist]

Water is one of my favorite types so if I fail to get the medal imma die

[rough forum]

THAT BITE DAMAGE

ON T1

💀

[carmine cedar]

What the fuck

It's real

I thought it was already peak with 3rd anniversary pair, granted it gives no points and is for funny, but this is actual stuff

💀

[maiden canopy]

Double master passives FTW

[cunning shore]

I ain't gonna try anything funny till I finish Lana 😭😭

[rough forum]

Jesus fucking Christ

That's a presync clear at 850

[maiden canopy]

Also nearing below 5 minutes

[tardy vector]

Hmm anyone has ideas?

[maiden canopy]

Like few miliseconds before 5 minutes

[rough forum]

What 2 MF + SS lys does to a stage

[maiden canopy]

Replace Wallace

[thorny grove]

https://tenor.com/view/how-confused-but-how-puzzled-calculate-gif-16247428

[rough forum]

Lana just sucks, so I think if you're struggling you should slowly lower your strenght number

[maiden canopy]

Also make your Misty 3/5

[rough forum]

^

[tardy vector]

Who with? Hmm

[rough forum]

Definitely needed for mpr and agile entry

[maiden canopy]

Nessa

[rough forum]

Or wake

For flinches

[maiden canopy]

And upgrade GrimSSley

[tardy vector]

I don’t think I have enough candies rip

[maiden canopy]

Out of 3* candies?

[rough forum]

I also think there's a redundancy of defence buffs on the Lana team

[tardy vector]

Just started this game

So not much

[nova anchor]

580 for misty how lol

[red pendant]

...okay, about my Vs Lana team

if SS Grims doesn't deal enough damage

[rough forum]

Sskris moment

[tardy vector]

But if I move Nessa to Archie , wouldn’t my Nessa team get ripped?

[red pendant]

would replacing him with Wake actually give me more damage?

because I highly doubt that

[rough forum]

Wake is meant as side flincher that adds extra DPS

[nova anchor]

Wonder what build he rockin

[maiden canopy]

?

[red pendant]

okay, so he won't be able to replace SS Grims

[maiden canopy]

Isn't Archie more vulnerable to physicals?

[red pendant]

...damn

[nova anchor]

That's better than archie may combo lmao

[red pendant]

I don't know how to make SS Grims deal more damage against Lana then 😦

[paper mist]

Wake can also proc Confusion

[rough forum]

I did 550 with all the rain passives + minipot mh2

[paper mist]

For the extra bonus

[nova anchor]

He just replace archie w/misty wtf

[red pendant]

because, like, neither Inertia nor a EX support sync buff are helping

[rough forum]

Inertia alone is kinda weak

[red pendant]

well, I also have the EX support sync buff as well

and it's STILL not enough

[nova anchor]

Can you share build? I'm attempting to do the same team, however I have archie. But it's interesting you can hit that point with that team

[red pendant]

how can I make SS Grims deal more damage without me having to EX him?

[nova anchor]

This was my first attempt btw lol was busy at work

[rough forum]

I refused considering ssgrims because evasion never saved me and his bulk is non existent at 5*, while Nessa has better nuke, better self enable and can actually tank one or two syncs with regen

[rough forum]

Maxie?

[red pendant]

sadly, I have already used Nessa elsewhere

[nova anchor]

Wait archie lmao

[carmine cedar]

I want to be added in the pins, but I'd imagine it needs a high enough point and I'm in rank 4044 so...

[red pendant]

Like, how can I improve this team?

and yes, I do need Marlon alongside Hilbert

[maiden canopy]

I'd just do double damage dealers

[red pendant]

Hilbert literally gets killed in 3 moves without Marlon

[atomic hamlet]

wait can we not trigger MPR

on any move?

[maiden canopy]

And try to use Siebold somewhere

Because of his Water Pulse

[tardy vector]

If I move my own Nessa to my Archie team, am I supposed to rely on grimsley for Nessa?

[rough forum]

@nova anchor

[carmine cedar]

Oh well here are my points as someone who don't recharge gems. In the order:

230
210
180
195
165

[red pendant]

...wait, does Siebold have something that makes it more likely for the Confusion to actually prevent hits?

[maiden canopy]

Well, he doesn't have Stop Hitting Yourself

[red pendant]

damn

then that probably isn't very reliable after all...

[twin arrow]

what are some good alternatives for gloria to deal with archie? i wanna try for 450 or above but idk

grimsley doesnt seem good here hmm

[red pendant]

especially since without something like "Stop Hitting Yourself", confusing actually preventing hits only happens, like

10% of the time

at best

[paper mist]

Confusion gets bonus points in this

[thorny grove]

What fight is this for?

[rough forum]

It's pretty crazy to me how steep the diminishing returns from strenght clears are

I had to do 550-550-440-400-300 to only do 90k more than you, with an average of 200

[red pendant]

which I already get from using Hilbert

and I was told I only need one of the two bonuses

[rough forum]

No og kris?

[carmine cedar]

I actually kinda prefer that though to be honest, otherwise it would be a bit more... p2w

[haughty haven]

Well -6acc and +6 evasion and pray

[carmine cedar]

And well the new mode kind of shows more often how awful restarting is just for the MP refreshes

[rough forum]

Misty as of pic 1

[carmine cedar]

It's nice that we can restart and not have to quit -> select -> go

But still

[thorny grove]

Wow. I may have to switch my Misty Approach

[twin arrow]

i do have her, yeah

[carmine cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/pepew-twitch-nymn-gif-20756151

[twin arrow]

i could do like lana kris and dewott potentially?

[thorny grove]

Yes

[nova anchor]

Wtf so evasion go brrrt

[candid cobalt]

Yo would the team of Hilbert, Kris and Egg Gyara be able to beat Archie in 350 strength?

[haughty haven]

Yeah

[candid cobalt]

Trying to see if it's possible before I lead myself down a rabbit hole

[haughty haven]

Misty like spam Blizzard

[thorny grove]

Considering I basically just did that with Kris Rosa and Blue you should be able to do basically the same.

[haughty haven]

And Blizzard doesn’t have good hit rate

[candid cobalt]

Aight

I'm just scared of the Liquidation spam

[haughty haven]

Sooooo i just take that and try with OG May- OG Misty - SS Kris

[rough forum]

Blizzard will freeze you at 2 hits from winning tho

[haughty haven]

You cant get freeze if you dodge all Blizzard

[nova anchor]

+6 evasion for all?

[rough forum]

Just like how Nessa will flinch my Lana after I hit a 3 flinch denial streak

[haughty haven]

That how i win at 580 str

[thorny grove]

Tbh start runs with Lana TM, if it’s an XSpDef or Ice beam you’re solid, if the next move is an x item as well you’re golden. If it’s not those two just reset the run it’s not worth it.

[nova anchor]

Cheat

[haughty haven]

No just OG May

[rough forum]

I did that against Nessa for my first clear

[rough forum]

Just need to hit all the denials and dodge with Hilbert then

[thorny grove]

The other two can start to buff themselves too

[rough forum]

I hate how I beat this score an hour ago but you could 100% tell I was desperate

[nova anchor]

Was about to archie until I saw ur team

[haughty haven]

I dont have Archie so i much take what i have bro

[rough forum]

Same

Fuck that whale

[thorny grove]

I’m assuming tech Gyara for rain?

[rough forum]

Rain + aggravation 2

[thorny grove]

Ah gotcha. That’s a good load out.

[rough forum]

Basically flinch, dodge, flinch, dodge

[candid cobalt]

Oh this is Hilbert, Kris and Egg Gyara

No Lana

[haughty haven]

That why my last two team not good enough to get like 65k

[red pendant]

...alright, so I guess I replace Marlon with Siebold then?

[candid cobalt]

Lana was used up against uh Nessa

[nova anchor]

I see, I have all except eucne, gloria, lysandre

[red pendant]

even though Hilbert needs Marlon to even stay alive for long enough to sync?

[nova anchor]

Mf skip eucne coz me grab hisui duo

[thorny grove]

Fair. I skipped Glojo last year because I was goin for Marshadow and the amazing Korina alt… I really regret that choice now, didn’t even get Korina and now I’m stuck with no Glojo for this.

[rough forum]

Yikes

I really wish I got sslys but I really can't stress how little I need volcanion, I'd only want him because lys drip

[thorny grove]

Hell I even got Korina in the paid banner at half anni.

[thorny grove]

I literally got him on the last day by being a snarky MF. I went “alright Lys, it’s your last chance, go ahead, waste all my gems for dailies and show up at the last minute so I won’t be upset” and then he showed in a fake out. I had no response and just kinda sat there for a second to contemplate what I did.

[rough forum]

Good for you tho

[thorny grove]

Yeah. Glad he came home I love Lys and Volcanion a lot. Kinda wish Emma was as kind but no. One day I’ll get her and have all my Kalos favs. One day.

[rough forum]

I'll scout a possible SS Emma

Her base kit, Mon and base outfit are kinda ehhh

For me

Anyway, if anyone know where could I raise my score through misty evasion RNG, lmk

Not taking chances with Marlon, misty or Nessa tho, I'm not touching those stages anymore

[hardy fog]

I feel like I've done well with my roster 😂

More than half with no grid

[rough forum]

You might be able to push a bit more by switching up some elements of your Lana and Nessa teams tbh

[nova anchor]

May got one tap on 2nd sync w/+6 evasion lmao

[hardy fog]

Would you elaborate

[nova anchor]

I can try ss misty

Should I take refreshing rain on may ?

Why do I need to heal if I only need to dodge

What am I thinking

Lol

[haughty haven]

You need Heal

Because you will just give her 2 Evasion

And with +6SpD and Heal she very hard to kill

[red pendant]

ugh...replacing Marlon with Wake did NOT help me in the slightest 😦

this stupid Ressilience is making sure that both flinch AND confusion is utterly useless

[nova anchor]

Aight can you share builds you using thanks

[nova anchor]

Thanks for this I almost missed it lmao

[rough forum]

I didn't take refreshing rain

[rough forum]

Because I haven't touched my may grid

Since the wheater ebe

[maiden canopy]

Anyone attempted JL's clear yet?

[rough forum]

[red pendant]

...god, am I really forced to whale JUST to get the rewards?

[rough forum]

The
Rewards
Ain't
Worth

[maiden canopy]

Do you even need to?

[red pendant]

you mean the rewards? absolutely

[rough forum]

What if you spend 36k just to get some coins

[maiden canopy]

Just try slowly

[red pendant]

I absolutely always need them

[rough forum]

How is that worth

[red pendant]

no matter the situation

[haughty haven]

@nova anchor you should give OG Misty Lucky like Critical Strike 2

[rough forum]

[maiden canopy]

Increase your strength by small amounts

[rough forum]

Oh interesting misty grid

[red pendant]

again, I don't want to go lower than +190 strength increase

[haughty haven]

Yes

OG Misty not just help with Evasion and Heal

She also help dps

[rough forum]

I just fully focused on support

[nova anchor]

Aight, dang last time I touch her was during stall days on cs almost 2 years ago

[haughty haven]

She deal pretty good dps with +6 SpDef

[rough forum]

My misty is like

Friendly care, agile entry? Mpr3 TM, mpr3 xspdef all and mgr on bubble beam because most times gauge sucks so hydro eats too much

But tbh rn she got benched so idk where I should try putting her

[nova anchor]

Bruiser misty

[haughty haven]

That why i use this to help gauge issues with this team

[pure jungle]

what's the estimated points for the master medal atm

[haughty haven]

But dont use SS Kris Rain at the start

[rough forum]

Probably around 170k

[haughty haven]

Use May first

Because y will focus buff first

[nova anchor]

I see

[rough forum]

We had very different approaches

[pure jungle]

will it go up soon?

[rough forum]

It's constantly rising

It was 165k yesterday

[pure jungle]

oh noes

[rough forum]

But I think it'll slow down in a couple days

My estimate is around 195-210k at end of the event

At most

Unless there's a huge rush of people trying to get a safe spot early, which didn't happen during prestige til last 12 hours so...

[pure jungle]

I seee I kinda want that medal but I'll probably need to inhale more copium

[rain sierra]

I guess now I understand why I had no issue with Marlon - Cerena debuffed him enough that he couldn't dodge

[pure jungle]

I'm barely hanging by a thread

[rain sierra]

I keep hearing the dodging Marlon without getting a clue

[rough forum]

@haughty haven my misty clear was me getting to -4/5 acc on mid asap so I basically emptied sskris in the meantime and synced with her second to gain racing rain 4 on may as early as possible

I used rain on may only in letegame

Because I needed the teamwide+4 spdef

To fill the +2 from SS misty

Racing rain 4 does a huge digger

[haughty haven]

Y can do what y bro

[rough forum]

Difference*

[atomic hamlet]

when using Greninja do you guys use Water Shuriken or Brutal Swing

[haughty haven]

I battle again Misty 580 str

[rough forum]

I know, I was just comparing the different approaches

[haughty haven]

So i must optimal all i have

[forest ferry]

620 str against Marlon with rat

[atomic hamlet]

o.o

[rough forum]

My 550 could've maybe been 580-600 if I brought misty but she was stuck in my Nessa team and to take her out I had to free Lana who was in my misty clear so

[forest ferry]

Can't wait for electric event so rat can hit 100k score

[rough forum]

Maybe I should try to mirror your team at 600

Now that starmie is freed up

But I think I'll wait some days

This event burned me out

[haughty haven]

I try 600 already

[rain sierra]

Damn, that 850 guy didn't toggle the move turn. What a chad

[haughty haven]

Just not Lucky Enough

[rough forum]

My phone would implode

[rough forum]

If I could do 550 without +2 Eva on SS kris and may I bet you can do it at 600 with that, just needs farming

[haughty haven]

Bro

I got hit with -6acc with +6Eva

[cunning shore]

Losing hope

[haughty haven]

Like 17 times

[cunning shore]

Tell me about it

[haughty haven]

[nova anchor]

[cunning shore]

Iirc Accuracy and Evasion buff/drops don't stack

[rough forum]

Wanna know something funny @haughty haven

Guess who always

ALWAYS

Died first in all my misty tries at 550 against -6 acc lapras

A) sskris
B) may who has no vigilance
C) SS misty with vigilance and +6 evasion

Vaporeon died first every single time

[haughty haven]

[rough forum]

Not one time did any of the other two survive less

[red pendant]

god

FINALLY beaten Nessa!

though now I definitely can't use Marlon on my SS Grims team anymore

[atomic hamlet]

@haughty haven bruh how did you beat marlon with that team

any specific grid?

[red pendant]

that said, though, since I am now at a total of 165k points, I can finally go lower than +190 strength increase

[haughty haven]

No?

Just Sleep

[atomic hamlet]

sleep only once

do you sleep after sync?

oh

[rough forum]

Resilience goes away

[haughty haven]

You can watch my fail

[rough forum]

It just takes time

[atomic hamlet]

I see

[rough forum]

You can usually sleep right
Sleep mid
Sleep left

And that way you gain 6 whole turns

By the time you sleep left right's resilience should start blinking and fading

Same with flinches

It's fickle because mid goes ham after sync

So it's harder to denial then

[haughty haven]

@atomic hamlet

You can see this video, but this is unlucky run

[rough forum]

But up to first sync (and even after, just less) flinch and sleep are huge

Yo banger alert

[haughty haven]

Idk why i have asked so much about Marlon and Lana. So i always ready video

[rough forum]

Elio also has great debuffs on his sparkling aria to help cserena when he can't sleep

[haughty haven]

[rough forum]

Yeah that rock slide at the end

Was sad

For my 550 Marlon I just stacked heals and left sides at 1-2 water shuriken range and then killed mid in 2 syncs because of rebuffs

I targeted only mid to get -6 acc and spa/atk as early as possible and then debuffed sides

Proof of how long my final clear took + how many fucking water shurikens I shot

[haughty haven]

7 minute

[rough forum]

If it works it works

Haven't seen anyone else hit 150 attacks yet either

[elfin spade]

I was able to push for a higher score thanks to the help from here. Let’s hope top 3k is enough to get that medal. If it comes to it I can EX two units before the end of the event for a better Archie and Marlon run but otherwise I don’t think I can push the others any more.

[haughty haven]

I try to get confusion but Serena said No

[rough forum]

Yeah I spammed like

20 water pulses

No confusion

Would've been 80k points if I got that

[haughty haven]

I cant spam much longer

Because Enemy ready to wake up

And i scare -6acc Rock Slide hit again

[tardy vector]

Without ex , is this team possible to hit 40k**

Sorry

[red pendant]

...okay, I'm getting sick of Lana

there's gotta be something fundamentally wrong with my team

because even when I lower the strength increase to just 170, I am STILL unable to win

[brave yoke]

Show us your team?

[nova anchor]

How many sync for c!misty? Can't survive third sync from the opponent lol. I almost clear it though. There's also a run where they k.o early if fails to evade lmao

[rough forum]

Changing 30-40-60 str won't fundamentally change the difficulty as much as most people think

[lone wraith]

god i just used a lifetime worth of rng

[red pendant]

damn, what am I supposed to do then? 😦

[rough forum]

I tanked 2 and killed just before third

Consider trying 100 and aiming for extra parameters instead

And then seeing if you can reach 130-150

With same team

Once you're done

[rough forum]

What eggmon is that

[lone wraith]

gyarados tech

[rough forum]

Based Larry

[rough forum]

https://tenor.com/view/larrythelobster-spongebob-larry-the-lobster-gif-5584367

[nova anchor]

Left side also can proc kris first aid early lmao

[rough forum]

Damn that Lana clear is a huge flex

[maiden canopy]

I'm still waiting for 900 strength clear

[nova anchor]

[rough forum]

Are you really telling me this channel had more messages in 3 days than all legendary arena channel til now

[paper mist]

Anyone got any grid recs for Lodge Adaman? He’s got too many good things in his grid that I want

[nova anchor]

I'm planning on pairing him later with archie

[rough forum]

This reminded me why I actually went with vaporeon over starmie... Haze taking away +2 spa was huge

How did I forget

[forest ferry]

I picked recup, FA2 and on the run for him

[rough forum]

Taking away speed buffs also helps when they miss twice in a row since they start drowning the gauge

[paper mist]

He gets stuff like sync wall and pep rally on his grid and I Want Them, but first aid and recoup are necessary to survive

[rough forum]

I heard people saying sync wall saved their clears but idk what their score was

[paper mist]

Though I need to decide if I’m gonna keep him with May and Archie for Misty or move him to another team that needs Defense buffs

[forest ferry]

Oh yea I skipped pep rally on him

[nova anchor]

Does 2/5 work for ss misty? Just needs hazer r? Grid was a bonus

[forest ferry]

Coz I used him with cerena

Sync wall is useless tho

[paper mist]

Those 2 are why I would need Pep Rally cause 3 and 4 bars without speed buffs gets difficult to keep up with

[red pendant]

...wait, what extra parameters?

[paper mist]

Confusion and Main Character

[haughty haven]

[forest ferry]

[red pendant]

oh, I already do that

[haughty haven]

Bro 95% miss like 3 time

[forest ferry]

My misty team still irks me

[red pendant]

didn't lower strength to 100 yet, though

[forest ferry]

If only I had sskris

[red pendant]

...I will lower strength to 150 for now

[rough forum]

I did sync with her on sides if they had low acc debuffs but yeah technically speaking the grid doesn't do much if you only sync with may

[forest ferry]

Her grid is nice for more pts

Since she buffs defense and evasion with it

[rough forum]

Me with Nessa and her 95% accurate razor shell

[forest ferry]

Otherwise she's just a hazer

[rough forum]

I just needed +2 spdef, haze and evasion as support for my clear, and I synced with her as my third sync on the walrein? Since that one start with +2 acc iirc

It wasn't even exed so probably may would've hit harder

But I wasn't sure and that way I got an extra muddy water so idk

How they balanced themselves out

[forest ferry]

The event is a nice investment check
Ebes not even close

[rough forum]

Yea

[candid cobalt]

Ahhhh I'm literally this close to 250k points

Currently at 249,552

This is painful

[rough forum]

This event is pretty much a time played/number of times whaled ratio check

[candid cobalt]

Honestly

[rough forum]

If you either didn't play since Anni 1-2 or whaled you're gonna struggle

Unless you're lucky and water is your favourite type or you collect legendaries or Kalos units or both

[lone wraith]

got a better misty run

[forest ferry]

I am worried abt stuff like ground

Not even banner units can save it

[lone wraith]

might redo nessa with ss grimsley

[rough forum]

I think it's gonna take at least 4-6 months before next event

And it's gonna probably be

• psychic
• grass
• electric

Imho

[forest ferry]

Eh doubt on electric

What's electric banner even gonna look like

Zerkom and Koko?

[rough forum]

Tbolt red rerun

[lone wraith]

Marnie and Zekrom ☠️

[forest ferry]

Maybe next one is electric

[candid cobalt]

N isn't gonna do shit offtype unless he has Volkner

[forest ferry]

With regileki releasing next month

Throw in SSTred rerun

And celesa+sshau banner

Let everyone suffer

[rough forum]

Anyway, don't worry too much

[candid cobalt]

I'm just surprised how people are getting like 380k points

That pushes so many people down

[rough forum]

Everyone was doomposting after prestige about ground or poison prestige

Yet...

[forest ferry]

There's not even 10 people with 380k pts

[rough forum]

^

Top 200 cut is around 300k rn

[forest ferry]

Also I doubt 380k is super whale stuff
A lot of high point runs rely on flinch hax

[rough forum]

Means 9800 places are between 299k and 170?k

[forest ferry]

Which is basically wake, Kris etc

[rough forum]

You do need a limited water to capitalize on the denial

[candid cobalt]

What I mean is that the fact people can get so high means its less likely people who do borderline 180k will get the medal thing

[rough forum]

And get High points

[forest ferry]

I am expecting 230k for top 10k rank

[candid cobalt]

[rough forum]

That was always clear to me

180k is made for people that do daily logins or bare minimum for events and not much more

[forest ferry]

170k was top 10k till yesterday so it likely bumped up now

[candid cobalt]

My heart stopped when I saw your message

[forest ferry]

180k is very ez tbh

Just bring 1 offtype carry

[rough forum]

180k is like the base floor

[forest ferry]

Easy 40k pts

[rough forum]

You can get 160k with a busted offwater + 2 waters

[candid cobalt]

I just don't feel like I'm safe even though I have 249k points

[rough forum]

Then you just need to go triple water on a stage to get 60k instead

And boom

[candid cobalt]

And I hate that feeling

[rough forum]

180k

[rough forum]

Doubt

[haughty haven]

I hate is

[rough forum]

Missed the crit?

[haughty haven]

It just doesn’t crit

[rough forum]

Hell yeah

[haughty haven]

3 time in a row

[rough forum]

I know that feel

[candid cobalt]

Man

[rough forum]

I get crit on all the early syncs that do 6-7k

Then miss the final one

[forest ferry]

Ah yes may and sync crit miss
Beat that duo

[rough forum]

@candid cobalt I mean I doubt it'll get there

My highest expectations are 195-215k

For 10k cut

[forest ferry]

What's 10k rank rn?

[rough forum]

170-75k

Thing is, these events dry out after the first days

[candid cobalt]

And then ramp up at the end

[rough forum]

By the time oleana launches, the sliding will be minimal

Last couple days there could be a ramp up yes

Because people who didn't do the event right away + people at risk

But those people won't be able to grind enough to make users up from 7.5k slide down

Only the last 1/4th of the 10k will really change in last few days imo

It was different for prestige 1 because everyone could buy stamina the last day, scout an extra Gloria and rank a ton

Meanwhile here getting an extra dupe or grabbing sslys or dojo glo won't give you more than an extra 10-15-20k

[forest ferry]

Well I am not that worried abt current event
Mostly abt awkward typings like electric that have busted MFs and limiteds but a small f2p roster

[rough forum]

Like my first run was 287k, and after optimizing to hell and back I got to 310k, but without getting lys or Archie I doubt I'd be able to grab 315k, with them at 1/5 maybe j could get to 330k but I doubt that

Don't forget if you hit 180k you should be contempt

Medals ain't worth going mental for

The only reason most people are farming this, me included, is just for self challenge

If you can't hit 180k, don't fall for FOMO and waste gems lol

[forest ferry]

I only want 3 medals
After that I'll slack

[cunning shore]

I did this and now I have Eusine and Nessa free for Lana....
Pls god help me

[forest ferry]

[rough forum]

There's no reward that's as worth as risking 36k gems for a pair

[forest ferry]

Like how I abandoned gauntlet streaks after getting cookies

[rough forum]

Gauntlet is objectively boring imo

[twin arrow]

If you nuke with pick up the pace and have critical focus, do you get +3 crit at once?

[candid cobalt]

Yeesh

[rough forum]

Lol I wish

[candid cobalt]

I don't think so

[rough forum]

It's 1 crit

[candid cobalt]

Pretty sure you just get +1 crit

[twin arrow]

So it counts as one hit huh

Sad

[candid cobalt]

Yeah

[cunning shore]

Only 1

Yeah

[rough forum]

Yeah because syncs natively hit one character, the ex effect extends the damage

Not the sync itself

[cunning shore]

It counts as 3 hits for the counter (for the event)
But 1 for the crit buff

[rough forum]

It's like extend range

[red pendant]

...god, FINALLY won against Lana

but only with a strength increase of 150

...welp, at least I got all the rewards now

[ocean warren]

well done

[onyx crystal]

Going thru backlog. Will be updating pin shortly.

[red pendant]

...wait, hold on

I am somehow in Master Rank?!

how did that happen?

[maiden canopy]

Top 10k

[onyx crystal]

If anyone sees Master Rank in the low ranges just ping me the image. So I can update what the Point Requirement is.
Last Reported value was somewhere around 161,000.

[hardy fog]

Show your team trin

[haughty haven]

[red pendant]

how did I end up getting enough points to even be in Top 10k?

[maiden canopy]

What is your rank right now?

[red pendant]

Master 6,823

[full lark]

Last I check I was around Master 5k with a score of ~215k, so that’s not surprising

[maiden canopy]

I'm at 224k at 3.8k+

I just need to EX Kris to improve my score on Archie

[onyx crystal]

@haughty haven @charred pier @rough forum @forest ferry
your results have been updated

[hardy fog]

I'm wondering if I should ex to get a bit more points lol

But probably not right. Everyone in top 10k gets the medal

[onyx crystal]

<t:1689248940:D> Point Ceiling Change

Top 10: 359,004 -> 361,863 (+2,859)
Top 50: 323,887 -> 328,563 (+4,676)
Top 100: 311,706 -> 314,295 (+2,589)
Total Increase: 10,124

I'm going to wait daily to change the values, so we can see how much they rise in ~24 hours. (These results are just ~8 hours of change).

[hardy fog]

I see

[rough forum]

Thanks a lot 🙏

[unreal crest]

Where is C!Serena usually used in?

[charred pier]

marlon

[rough forum]

Marlon

[unreal crest]

got it

1/5 should do the trick then

[rough forum]

Yup

With enough decent supports 1/5 can carry your score far

[rain sierra]

Best if you have her at EX because boy, these stages are bulky as hell

[onyx crystal]

If you just want rewards, probably not necessary, but if you want higher scores, EXing most of your roster is going to be needed.

[rain sierra]

Especially the EX supports

[cyan tusk]

150 level helps too

[rain sierra]

But if we are being real, how often do we still use Hilbert?

[cyan tusk]

Max theme skills and awkward LS and sync grids too lmao

[rain sierra]

This type event definitely requires more resources than LG

[cyan tusk]

(It’s me, dc2 Lana and HS1 Nessa)

[rain sierra]

Lana is the certified final boss of this event

[cyan tusk]

Yes I was talking about my Lana

And all the lucky skills I have been rolling lately

[cosmic creek]

I use way more units in gauntlet than here

Lana as a fight is the worst.

But Lana as a unit also getting a nice spotlight against Archie fight.

[rain sierra]

To be fair, you can only use Water type if you want good scores, so it's very limiting

[rough forum]

I do because I only do 2v3 csmm

[onyx crystal]

This mode rewards, hard investment into a few core teams.
Whereas LG is more about roster size.

[cyan tusk]

It’s a different kind of resources imo. Here it’s being focused on 1 type and it’s kind rare that we invest in 1 type while LG allows you to squeeze different team comps

You can reach high levels of Lg streaks even without all the units

[rough forum]

LG is also extremely more boring because you can't redo and you need to farm RNG with every different team

[cyan tusk]

Try miss dojo Gloria, NCSerena or SSLysandre here

[onyx crystal]

At least this is event is only 5 battles and 5 teams, vs the 100+ team comps required for LG.

[cyan tusk]

You’re doomed

[rain sierra]

Precisely. I doubt many even used most of the water pairs before this event

[cosmic creek]

I pulled Urshifu in a daily today.

I'm not planning on redoing my run for more points. I'd need 3/5 urshifu for it to matter anyway

[rough forum]

I miss Archie, SS lys and eusine, wasn't THAT bad

Cserena does pull a ton tho

[cosmic creek]

I'm annoyed that blackfrog isn't a water type for this event ☠️

[rough forum]

Same SS kris

Yeah true

[onyx crystal]

(dena if you're reading this, if you want whales to spend put in banners lol)

[rain sierra]

210k is doable with the limited pair being just SS Blue, but you still need invested pairs like OG Kris

[cyan tusk]

Marlon is specifically made for NCSerena
Misty for archie
Lana for Dojo Gloria
Nessa for SSLysandre
Archie …. Still don’t know

[rain sierra]

Archie is anything physical since he doesn't have much gimmick

That makes him the easiest of the bunch

[cosmic creek]

Araquanid is good against Archie.

Then bring a phys striker like Feraligatr or Sharpedo

[rain sierra]

I'm still not sold on Lysandre for Nessa. Maybe because mine is just 1/5

[hardy fog]

Archie sides hit hard though

[rain sierra]

Like, Burn doesn't actually cripple her

[rain sierra]

All sides hits hard

[cosmic creek]

Araquanid has team water guard, and has wide guard if you do let the sides attack

[rain sierra]

But at least Archie is mostly single target instead of EQ or Blizzard spam

[onyx crystal]

The in-game tips about applying burn... If you look at the datamine, the Mitigation of Burn goes from 8 -> 7. And then they suggest using Burn.

[outer whale]

Top 100 is now 314k

[unreal crest]

i do, 150 ex, but 1/5

[cosmic creek]

He needs 2/5 to get the burn multipliers.

And don't use his buddy move at the start. Use his buddy move after you support EX sync, or after you have 3 sync buffs

[hardy fog]

My roster is pretty average lysandre was really good for nessa lol

[rough forum]

Nessa: 4 EQs in a row or 5 razor shells, take it or leave it

[rain sierra]

Damage reduction without Lessen Burn is like 20%. With LB 8, something like 4% reduction

What? You expect DeNA to allow us to cripple physical stages with hard 50%? In your dreams

[cosmic creek]

When the only water-type options are Volcanion and Octillery... Then yes I do lol

(And I think an eggmon has scald. Maybe a Horsea?)

[candid cobalt]

Unless you decide to use an eggmon with scald

Yeah I think it's Horsea

[rain sierra]

Nessa when Burned : Sigh, guess I will just hit you with 96% strength

[onyx crystal]

Striker Seaking & Starmie TIL

[rough forum]

Yep

Too bad seakings buffs suck

[cosmic creek]

Seaking!

That's the one I was thinking of. Didn't know starmie.

[rough forum]

Support starmie is better than tech anyway

[rain sierra]

It sure hurts me that I don't have Support Cloyster. Could have another defense buffer

[cosmic creek]

Support Horsea I think is one of the eggs that can max speed

[cyan tusk]

A friend of mine got like 10K points more on me using the same team bc 5/5 lysandre drops atk and special def lmao

[rugged fjord]

may try getting a better score than 213k when the rankings settle down a bit

[rain sierra]

Well, that's 5/5

[worldly parcel]

Disarm 9

Lowers the target's Attack and Sp. Atk by one stat rank when the user's attack move is successful against a flinching, confused, or trapped opponent.

Sync Pairs with Passive:

Eusine & Suicune
Skyla (Anniversary 2022) & Tornadus
Sygna Suit Steven & Deoxys
Raihan (Anniversary 2022) & Flygon

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Burned Down (Attack ↓, Sp. Def ↓) 9

Lowers the target's Attack and Sp. Def by 1 stat rank when the user's attack move is successful against a burned opponent.

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Sygna Suit Lysandre & Volcanion

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[cyan tusk]

Yes I went with dojo Gloria and Og Kris with Lana.. tried Elio instead of dojo Gloria but barely took him out, less points

[cyan tusk]

My 3/5 made his job with B hydro pump bloated with multipliers and sync buffs under rain

[rain sierra]

DeNA : Yes, pull him 5 times to easy clear this stage

[cyan tusk]

I don’t know how worth 5/5 Eusine would be bc disarm 9 is too far on his grid

[rain sierra]

At the end of the day, maybe I ought to get him to 3/5 at least. But alas, anniversary is too close for comfort

[cyan tusk]

I’d say do it only if you care for the medal and you risk to be out of the master range in the last days of the event

[cosmic creek]

I want to reset a fight and see what rank I can do with ANY unit. Actual on-type damage.

[rain sierra]

Currently at 270k. I doubt I would fall out that hard

[cosmic creek]

275k, and afraid.

I'm down to like 697 rank this morning. I was 199 when I stopped pushing lol

[cyan tusk]

Only investment I made for this event are 6EX Swimmisty and lodge adaman

[candid cobalt]

Debating if I should push to 250k

[cyan tusk]

But I would have gone for misty anyway. Adaman would have died without powerups honestly lol

[onyx crystal]

L Adaman's kit is decent for self-sufficient strikers too.

[rain sierra]

I'm still on the fence on lodge Adaman myself

[cyan tusk]

Yea but I do have other lodge supports with priority honestly

[rain sierra]

His rain gimmick definitely sucks in this stage because giving him Rain also makes the opponents hit harder

Literally defeating the purpose of Rain Gear