Arts' CSMM Attempts and Other Clears

[wise herald]

but maybe with sinnoh va

I'll get one

cope

[green coral]

I was trying to find a substitute gloria for 1/5 coba, gloria, sophocles, cuz it worked for me without too much trouble

[prime sentinel]

Any fire attacker?

[wise herald]

I have two BP tickets btw

[prime sentinel]

What move level is gloria

[green coral]

Problem is the phys dps for newer accs are lacking

[wise herald]

Can get surgechu and BP morty

[prime sentinel]

Both are great

[green coral]

2/5, so basically redundant. Any decently good dps with self atk buffs works

[prime sentinel]

You don't really need physical DPS for cobalion specifically right?

[green coral]

Ig not, tho those def debuffs encourages otherwise

Recap:

Coba teams:
Scz, calem, support
Ssmay, mcchu, support
cobalion, phys striker, sophocles

[wise herald]

normal calem?

[green coral]

Personally thinking of scrapping coba sopho team cuz there’s literally 0 substitute

Yeha calem has 100% acc paralysis

[wise herald]

noice

hmm, phys strikers...honestly, mallow? selene?

I have both gridded

[green coral]

Same with erika, tho idk if it’s worth going erika silver

[wise herald]

and mina

[green coral]

Selene move level?

[wise herald]

1/5 for selene and mallow

...hahaha

[green coral]

lmao nop

Yeah we’re putting that team comp in the trash

Don’t know whether ghetsis should be used on coba or azelf

[prime sentinel]

Just go for Silver tbh

[prime sentinel]

Azelf maybe? Noble roar can make azelf hit for less. Debuffs are more effective on that stage, right

[green coral]

Also dk whether to save ssac or just throw her in one of our empty support slots

[prime sentinel]

1/5 ssac doesn't have impervious. So i guess cobalion it is

[green coral]

Screw it: bulurola blaine erika

[wise herald]

one more candy coin till 2 support candy

erika tangrowth?

I don't think I've managed to pull ss erika

[green coral]

Og erika

Grass sun team on coba cuz its gimmick screws over newer plays hard. I’m just gonna throw overkill teams on it and not worry about it cuz my brain is starting to go haywire

[wise herald]

noted

the objective is to just...survive, it's 12 streaks

and at most I'll push it to 16

no more

[green coral]

Wow I’m dumb. Anyways added sonia to scz team

oml I forgot hop exists

[wise herald]

ooof

I have ramos and k grimsley gridded, also swimisty,...and also drake, uhhh

[green coral]

There coba teams done for the most part

[prime sentinel]

Drake probably can't hold up for too long

[green coral]

Eh I’m just gonna throw him in with ssmay cuz blaziken

Also extra para chance on db

@prime sentinel Cheryl, Barry, SSMisty sound good to u?

Actually scratch barry

[wise herald]

Noted

Will take a nap

Feel free to continue here

I'll read it when I wake up

[green coral]

I don’t know what teams I’m building. Al I know is that they are shit.

Behold this bootleg planning list of… idk what this is

[prime sentinel]

cheryl will die to the first iron tail probably

barry's nice, but I think he wants a speed debuffer. i'd rather use barry than ss misty to nuke tbh

[wise herald]

hmmm

[prime sentinel]

i'm worried about drake's tanking capabilities but I think ss may will rip through the stage easily. plus mc chu has potions anyway

oh, that lusamine team wants a def buffer too imo. Lusamine can not survive Azelf's sync without +6 def

since azelf's sync is physical

roxanne + ghetsis is a good core. remove wulfric, too slow.

entei teams look solid

[wise herald]

any suggestions? I can always slot in ssa cynthia instead

but then...the atk+crit buffs from hilbert

to be fair, I'm close to 2 supp candies

[wise herald]

any suggestions to replace? from the notably unused...I mean, cede solves the issue, but that also means wasting cede

[wise herald]

you and me both

currently trying to farm enough cookies

to kit everyone with vigilance

[prime sentinel]

ssa cynthia instead of lodge elesa then

doesn't ssac max both defenses

[prime sentinel]

it's not really a waste when you're only doing 12 tbh

plus cbede helps with gauges, you can spam glaciate more comfortably

[wise herald]

true

[wise herald]

yep

do you think I can squeeze out one or two more teams?

there's still a lot in the notably unused section

which is why I'm hesitant

to waste ssa cynthia

but cede definitely has to go on kyurem

[prime sentinel]

well, solgaleo can just go to cobalion and you can forego a status unit

or azelf, whichever you prefer

sycamore can go to either entei or azelf. misty to entei

we have some notably good free water damage dealers, like barry, siebold, lodge rosa, lodge may, lodge silver

[green coral]

2/5 hilbert, which means no crit

[wise herald]

true

uhhh, maybe revise this

I was slotting ssa cynthia in the entei team

but if lusamine needs it

I can swap

[prime sentinel]

lusamine will have to handle that herself

TM gives crit

[prime sentinel]

entei has a lot of fire moves, are you sure? I know she's one of the best tanks in the game, but I don't think this is... a good idea

not to mention entei debuffs defenses a lot and 1/5 ssa cynthia has no impervious

lusamine needs the max defenses imo, which ssa cynthia easily provides along with potion

crazy thought but maybe you can tank with hilbert instead for innate impervious

azelf debuffs defenses a lot

[prime sentinel]

ss grims and nanu are already good. you can probably slot in giocat instead. another flincher.

[royal sphinx]

aww giocat

what a cute name

[wise herald]

Oh ooof

Right

Nvm

[prime sentinel]

[wise herald]

Alright, so we're basically swapping hilbert with ssa cynthia, correct?

[prime sentinel]

my idea is to use ssa cynthia/lusamine/hilbert, but tank with Hilbert to take advantage of impervious

LG streakers will look at this message and cringe but hey. you're only doing 12 streaks, barely anything is "redundant" at this point

azelf bar 1 hurts

[royal sphinx]

Where are spatk buffs

[green coral]

we gonna end up throwing cbede in there?

[prime sentinel]

i think she'll be fine without it

[prime sentinel]

i still think cbede is better suited on the ghetsis team to help out with gauge

[green coral]

Alterations:

Azelf 3: Roxanne, Lusamine, Hilbert

• Apparently the two ladies have the potential to duo. hilbert should make the clear easy enough to warrant casual gameplay standards
  ~~Azelf 4: CBede, Ghetsis, Marley
• Spatk buffs on roxanne are basically redundant + extra grad healing from marley tm is nice~~
  Azelf 5: sleep/flinch overlap
• Don't need flincher if you're planning to sleep stall. idk what forme you're planning to use, so I can't really help there.
  Azelf 6 -> Cobalion: Piers, Solgaleo, Brock
• Coba's gimmick is hard to teambuild around with newer accounts. Solgaleo's SS bypasses some LA gimmicks. Brock healing.

Quick Note:

• Sophocles and Volkner should be interchangable. Just worried about early game speed with Zinnia team.

[wise herald]

noted

[green coral]

added azelf 3 cuz the lack of synergy was bothering me personally

oh nvm ssac

oh wow forgot about giocat lmao

wow I'm leaning way too much into optimization jesus christ

[prime sentinel]

Keep in mind this is their first LG

[wise herald]

well we can always store ssa cynthia

[prime sentinel]

No need to overoptimize it

[wise herald]

for someone else

2/5 lusamine btw

forgot to update her in the image

[green coral]

replace skyla with scsteven. perfect kit for nessa for some reason

alos fuck optimzation: piers solgaleo skyla on cobalion

no chance for solgaleo's mid dps to traumatize players

what deoxys form are you planning to use?

[wise herald]

atk forme

I managed to do a leaf atk forme duo in the afternoon

tho finger's crossed I can replicate it

[prime sentinel]

You really don't need a duo

If you're having trouble, bring a flincher

[wise herald]

oh we haven't used leaf at all

my 4/5 ex leaf

eevee leaf btw

[green coral]

if you want to have an easier time, add extra dps like guzma

[green coral]

solgaleo on cobalion cuz the lion's moves bypass gimmicks

[wise herald]

ah

[prime sentinel]

Leaf is another wild card you can use on either entei or azelf

[green coral]

I thought we would plan to use it for sssteven since it's proven to have worked

and also for the fact that arts doesn't know how to sleep stall consistently

[prime sentinel]

Leaf ss steven ramos for maximum overkill. Ramos doesn't really need to sleep consistently because leaf's a good tank

[green coral]

darkrai is the exception cuz you can just spam DV and guarantee the sleep

[green coral]

then what? I can't think of shit

either we remove leaf or ramos

[wise herald]

she gets murdered without flinch btw

[wise herald]

I can learn!

[prime sentinel]

Leaf and ss steven have been proven to work, I don't see much problem adding Ramos as the third just so Leaf can avoid some moves

[green coral]

you probably could learn sleep stalling, tho it's not for everyone. I've witnessed way too many people rage quit on it.

[prime sentinel]

For my leaf duo I gridded her with recuperation and kept syncing with her. Maybe that's why mine ended up healthy

[green coral]

yeah taht's a problem. you would need someone who can do consistent dps without sync that also buffs crit

[prime sentinel]

This team doesn't have to perfectly sleep chain. Ramos is just there to potentially delay Azelf's syncs and help Leaf avoid stronger moves at least on bar 1

[green coral]

oh so you are advocating for the team of leaf, sssteven, ramos

I thought you weren't

[prime sentinel]

Doesn't attack form deoxys have great DPS?

Azelf is only very lethal on bar 1, so keep syncing with Leaf to keep her healthy. After that, I think it's safe to start syncing with steven

[green coral]

that was when I assumed that you wanted ramos + leaf out of the picture since you stated that it's the ultimate overkill

ayo the rosa + giovanni core isn't used yet

• Rosa, Giovanni, Lucian on Azelf

[prime sentinel]

Oh lucian debuffs attack too right? That'll help Rosa tank the physical hits

[green coral]

I thought Lucian would immediately get drafted cuz of his insane base kit, but ig not
thank god he was still available

[wise herald]

yeah he's avail

I keep forgetting to actually write notable trainers lmao

any other insanity I forgot

[prime sentinel]

Idk, did you get any 3* magikarp from the egg event? Tech gyarados is a great flincher and rain setter for entei

That's another good flinch option

[green coral]

I may have too much of an optimization obsession, but what if bulurola mallow ogerika works?

[wise herald]

yeah I did!

I have...50 magikarps...

[prime sentinel]

I'm sure it will work

[prime sentinel]

This is just a suggestion for future LG perhaps, but Entei is such a delicious flinch gaming target. You can probably raise a 3 passive tech gyara. Only 3* potential is fine

[green coral]

1/5 syndrome

[prime sentinel]

Does mallow have innate sun multipliers or does she need grid for it

Hmm, guess it doesn't matter too much

If bulurola/mallow/og erika is too uncomfortable, you can switch back to silver

[wise herald]

definitely

so silver is currently unused

anywhere we can use him?

I also have tl sycamore, and tl blue, and tl morty

all unused

[prime sentinel]

Still cobalion. If you can get bp surge, that'd be nice

[wise herald]

sure

I have the tickets

so now what

[prime sentinel]

Tl blue, another great flincher, great wildcard anywhere

[wise herald]

oh I also have alolan ninetales shiny tech iirc

[prime sentinel]

Honestly for now give these teams a run first. Sometimes you'll find that a team is too hard and it's okay to switch up some units. Sometimes you'll have to go back to the drawing board

[wise herald]

yeah, sun setter for silver?

is blaine better though

alternatively, anyone I can replace with bp surge

for a more comfortable life

[prime sentinel]

Well he's better than an eggmon, yeah

Thing is, cobalion cures burn twice and gets flameproof after that

Cobalion cures status every half bar and starting on bar 2 he has sync cure I think

If you don't skip some bars with silver's nuke, cobalion will gain flameproof quickly

Silver can skip bars ofc, but that's a rather advanced trick that requires some damage control

Which is why i recommended bp surge bcs cobalion can cure paralysis 5 times (i think) before he gets immune

[wise herald]

noted

so tl blue goes...where?

[prime sentinel]

Bp surge, silver, a cheap healer imo

Tl blue i like using on entei but that's just me personally

[wise herald]

whitney?

uhhh what other healers exist

og misty

[prime sentinel]

I thought whitney could only heal herself

[wise herald]

right

[prime sentinel]

Cheryl, maybe

Bp surge's not much of a defensive tank so you'll have to be careful

[wise herald]

noted

I'll try the teams out tomorrow

[green coral]

brock

[wise herald]

todo: cookie gio to finally give him cs2

i had used PF2 on him for the longest time due to cookie shortage

and silver

kind of cursed

[green coral]

damn... even cs1 would be better 💀

[wise herald]

other victims include mallow (SD1)

side note but waiting for cyrus ex

un-exed cyrus keeps dying before entei dies on auto

[green coral]

sd1...?

[wise herald]

super duper effective 1

...yeah, desperate

[wise herald]

Unhappy to report

That my first attempt with sabrina, volkner, zinnia ended up dying halfway through last bar

And it's never been consistent since

Back to farming cookies

Is there no HE in cookies

Just for volkner

[wise herald]

Or ig I swap sabrina out?...

[green coral]

ig. She doesn’t have the best physical bulk

What seems to be the problem?

[wise herald]

Death by stone edge (even without crit)

When I run out of reflect

But eh I raised up tl blue already

Just need to test him out when I have the time

Stone Edge just takes sabrina out from 60% health it's unreal

[green coral]

Yeah I read the LG thread. He should work better

[royal sphinx]

Sabrina is weak against physical moves, her defense is not really high

[wise herald]

Noo

[royal sphinx]

[wise herald]

It's definitely doable

Just a matter of rng now

[green coral]

If there are gauge issues, consider using sophocles instead

[wise herald]

nah, no gauge issue

just that I got unlucky

in bar two

and volkner kept not applying paralysis

also I swapped to outrage because zinnia drops like a hot potato with dragon ascent

[prime sentinel]

if zinnia has dauntless, draco meteor is better

[wise herald]

Hmm, really? Well, nice to know

Lemme swap back to draco meteor grid

[wise herald]

Volkner decided to not para for 5 straight moves

On troublemaker 1

This is so stupid

[royal sphinx]

Troublemaker only affects status moves like Hypnosis, not the secondary chance

[wise herald]

Ah

Lemme swap to defense crush 2 then

[royal sphinx]

The right passive is Hostile Environment, which is not available in cookies

[wise herald]

Or uhh what's the sp def equivalent

Is there an sp def equivalent actually

[prime sentinel]

there is, but I don't remember if it's available in lucky cookies

[wise herald]

Ok, what's the next best option

[prime sentinel]

volkner? i just gave him critical strike because I use him for nuke occasionally

[royal sphinx]

Mind Games 2 from 1* deluxe

[prime sentinel]

vigilance is also fine

[wise herald]

Goshh

Ok back to draco meteor

I'll just leave volkner be

[wise herald]

Finally got it

Now, for the second team

Got leaf ramos ssteven done

[wise herald]

Ok caitlin cyrus winona done

[royal sphinx]

[wise herald]

Anything I need to know about piers here

I've never used him seriously

So I need some pointers

[royal sphinx]

tank with him to take advantage of Obstruct

his job is buffing crit

[wise herald]

Grid obstruct mpr? Does it exist?

[royal sphinx]

his TM gives Endure, which can clutch sometimes

yes

he has 2 Obstruct MPR iirc

[wise herald]

Noted, I'll ditch solgaleo crit on entry

Sunsteel strike build on Power Reserves?

[royal sphinx]

yeah

[wise herald]

I doubt the sync bypasses coba's passives

[royal sphinx]

correct

only Sunsteel Strike

[wise herald]

Sync with skyla or piers? Or does it not matter

[royal sphinx]

it doesnt matter

i would sync with Solgaleo

[wise herald]

Noted

[royal sphinx]

oh also be aware of Close Combat on half bar 2 and Sacred Sword on bar 3

[wise herald]

Lemme deal with solga re grid

Then I'll come back to ask about piper's grids

[wise herald]

About those, how do you predict them

Do you just press obstruct

And hope you're correct instead of wasting the move

[prime sentinel]

the move order of LA stages are fixed

check the solo list on #1012311116778586182 pins, they have an in-depth tab listing the move order

[royal sphinx]

always check pins

[wise herald]

Huh, they're fixed?

[royal sphinx]

[wise herald]

I was checking pins

Info overload got to me

If flinched or paralysed, they'll just re attempt the move?

[prime sentinel]

sometimes a boss would use a move that's different from what's scripted, like, I've had Latias open bar 3 with ice beam instead of earthquake, but so far I don't think we have any idea what triggers those

[royal sphinx]

they will skip that move iirc

[prime sentinel]

flinched, yes. paralyse, no. they'll move on to the next rotation

afaik

[wise herald]

Noted

Gimme some time to regrid solgaleo

Full obstruct or full tank?

For Piers

[prime sentinel]

full obstruct probably. you have skyla to heal when things go south anyway

[wise herald]

Noted

Will attempt

[green coral]

damn you been making progress
also I told you. cyrus winona duo is busted

[wise herald]

Yeah, piers solga skyla is also done

Starting to run low on orbs tho

19k ish

[wise herald]

How am I supposed to play this?

Grimsley TM turn one?

And then use the one time nuke for either bar 2 or bar 3?

[prime sentinel]

flinchlock bar 1, metal burst bar 2, nuke bar 3 (or the other way around)

hell you can flinchlock all the way if you want

since acerola is there too, entei will be blessed if he could get even one move out

[wise herald]

Noted

Lmaooo

That's certainly one way to put it

[green coral]

still wondering if cbede here is overkill since flinchlock

[wise herald]

Tbh yeah

Can probably swap him with drake or sth

[royal sphinx]

Grimsley is self sufficient so you can replace Bede with a gauge support

[prime sentinel]

Bede is the gauge support

[wise herald]

Anyone cheaper than drake?

[royal sphinx]

[wise herald]

In terms of gauge support

[royal sphinx]

Drake isnt good here

[wise herald]

Slot an eggmon?

[prime sentinel]

I wouldn't even say drake's a good gauge support.

you can only get so many TMs

[royal sphinx]

Do you an eggmon that can +6 speed?

for allies

[prime sentinel]

support ekans or support tauros are notable ones iirc

[royal sphinx]

Or use Marley

[prime sentinel]

oh silly me forgot marley exists

she can even heal status too

[wise herald]

Yep got support tauris

3 passives

[royal sphinx]

Try with Tauros first then

me still dont have 3 passive Tauros

[wise herald]

I mean I prefer eggmon since I'm trying to conserve my already built pairs (like marley) due to possible orb shortage

I have basically so many cakes and egg PUs

[wise herald]

Should I do this

Is this a good idea

Does it need move levels too

[prime sentinel]

Move levels barely do anything because there's no grid

[prime sentinel]

Not that necessary imo but it helps

[wise herald]

Also. I'm having difficulties

Synced with Rosa first

But might have been a bad move

[prime sentinel]

Ah, azelf's probably hitting too hard

[wise herald]

Ughhh, do I really need to kit Rosa with vigilance too

I hope I don't run of lucky scrolls

[prime sentinel]

I don't think Azelf crits much other than swifts

It's the debuffs that's annoying. Iirc she has stalwart (or is that just me hallucinating)

But the physical moves will be a problem, you'll have to kill half bar quickly

Your giovanni's not powerboosted, so yeah i'd say sync with rosa first

If rosa can't survive for long, bring a healer or a flincher/sleeper

[wise herald]

Noted

Swap Lucian out then?

He can help with someone else ig

[prime sentinel]

Sure

[wise herald]

Whitney it is

[green coral]

Only self heal 💀

Slot in cheryl

[wise herald]

Ehhh

Does Cheryl flinch

The bad news is that Rosa alone can't max out sp atk on +4

[green coral]

No, but she adds the missing spatk, and can bring speed + heal mpr with grid

[wise herald]

Well, the issue is that the team just folds if azelf syncs

[green coral]

Cheryl tm spam lmao

[wise herald]

Rosa dies immediately

[green coral]

Maybe Roxanne would be better, but no supp ex

Bookmark

[wise herald]

And Cheryl dies to sink

Sync

Unless we really want to fish for tm mpr

[green coral]

Wonder if brock is available, cuz iirc I recommended him for something

[wise herald]

Also, failed damage control

While he's still available, I've basically run out of orbs trying out cheryl

And rosa

[green coral]

Huh try rosa giovanni ssmisty. Ssmisty was a pair I just threw in anyways.

[wise herald]

Ss misty isn't built either

Are you sure?

I'm on basically 13k orbs now

[green coral]

I was looking in my lg warehouse, and apparently 2/5 ssmisty giovanni support raichu can beat it.

Could easily replace eggmon with roxanne

Also I don’t think ssm grid is all that important

[wise herald]

Noted

[green coral]

If u struggle with gauge, get warer gun mgr9

[wise herald]

Noted

Question: does roxanne need vigilance

[green coral]

She’s infintely more bulkier than eggmon, so I’d assume not

[wise herald]

Haze and Mist should be saved for what?

When do I use them

Also I'll basically try it out tomorrow

Too tired already

[green coral]

I actually don’t know. Azelf is able to debuff through the whole fight

Should basically boil down to whenever it’s “optimal”

I would suggest using mist more early on so debuffs/damage doesn’t stack, but that’s just my opinion

[wise herald]

Noted

[prime sentinel]

Not much use of those this rotation

Probably ss misty's haze can be used to nuke Entei

[royal sphinx]

Steady Aim moment

cant remove crit buffs

[wise herald]

Well, after some testing

Ended up bearing azelf with roxanne mewtwo whitney

Needed like 30 minutes of attempts

Kind of cursed

[royal sphinx]

not at all lol

Roxanne is a good answer to defense debuffs since she has Unbending + Stalwart

[wise herald]

True

Ok uhh

The supp tauros k grimsley acerola team

Has a problem:

Even at +6 speed

Everyone is just so, so slow

And somehow entei manages to dodge all my flinches

And there's probably a bit of skill issue from me too, some of my flinching moves land when entei is already flinched

[royal sphinx]

Grimsley is infamous for his ass gauge

[wise herald]

How do I time it correctly

[royal sphinx]

when the flinch icon begins to fade

[wise herald]

Does it blink?

Ok yeah it blinks

[royal sphinx]

yeah i should have said blink

[wise herald]

Behold

Grimsley dies

Hence the pause

So I can take a screenshot

[prime sentinel]

honestly this is so dumb

[wise herald]

????

I use the one time use nuke

Grimsley proceeds to be targeted twice

Tragedy

Grims already died to a previous eruption in bar 1

[royal sphinx]

if Grimsley fails too many time i recommend using another dmg dealer

like Barry

[wise herald]

...like, uhh, with 1k orbs?

[royal sphinx]

[wise herald]

Oh well, it doesn't have to be today

Can always wait

For daily sync orbs

[royal sphinx]

true

and orbs from lodge exchange shop

[wise herald]

Could do that yeah

[royal sphinx]

have you got all lodge supports to 3/5?

[wise herald]

Nope!

Only tl blue

[royal sphinx]

then save at least 1000 lodge stones then

[wise herald]

Yea

[royal sphinx]

to 3/5 a support

[wise herald]

Tbh it's lunch time

So I'll just put this away for now

If you have any inputs just drop it in

I'll probably send a gameplay vid

If yall want to criticize

[royal sphinx]

sure

[green coral]

If only salazzle is 3/5

[wise herald]

I'll put kgrims in the storage for now

the fun news is that

we just finished streak 6

woohoo

[wise herald]

Drake doesn't survive past bar 2

And the team goes down then

This gets to bar 3 with enough rng

But falkner and pikachu is dead at that point

And all that awaits mayziken is a death

[royal sphinx]

replace Falkner with a defensive buffers then

[wise herald]

Hmmm

Swap out ssa cynthia from lusamine's team?

Overkill?

Ehhh...

[royal sphinx]

who are already in another team?

[wise herald]

Everyone except for the last 3

Coba, Marlon, tl morty

[royal sphinx]

Coba it is then

[wise herald]

I can also get BP morty

Got BP surge already

One ticket left

[wise herald]

Def buff + astonish

[royal sphinx]

i think BP Morty is more valuable on Azelf

[prime sentinel]

agreed

[wise herald]

Noted

30 minutes later

Got coba mayziken mc chu to work

Coba really does get obnoxious with poison

[royal sphinx]

[wise herald]

Wow my coba survives! I applied paralysis just after sync cure! This is a good rng run-
gets poisoned

[royal sphinx]

Coba surely has hidden Hostilie Environment 9

[wise herald]

LMAO

Yea

Notes for future runs: just hold back sync until confirmed paralysis on coba

[royal sphinx]

thats a good strategy

[wise herald]

CS hand memory ruining me over

[wise herald]

Consistently happening

They're too frail

As soon as they're heatwaved they just die

[royal sphinx]

move Aaron to Azelf and use Swimsuit Misty here

[wise herald]

Noted

[royal sphinx]

or replace SC Steven with a flincher

[wise herald]

Sync with swimmisty?

[royal sphinx]

what move level is your Nessa?

[wise herald]

1/5

Practically nothing of worth in her grid

[royal sphinx]

yeah so sync with Misty

[wise herald]

Noted

Side note but ss steven is really good at preventing my tank from getting trapprd to death

[royal sphinx]

the effect is really great yeah

im too lazy to type its name

[prime sentinel]

what effect

[wise herald]

Status Condition Immunity

SC Steven applies it the first time either of his TMs are used

Or uh, SE + TM

Not sure what SE up is classified as

[royal sphinx]

Its Condition Nullification

[wise herald]

I see

Either way, it prevents but cannot cures

But eh, swimmisty can conserve her full heal to ensure nessa and herself doesn't burn to death

[royal sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-misty-anime-kasumi-gif-15501849

[wise herald]

I love togepis

Esp togekiss

Air slash flinch with serene grace

[royal sphinx]

Fortunately the entire Togepi line is in the game

[wise herald]

Who owns togekiss?

[royal sphinx]

And all of them are seasonals, so you can know when they rerun

[zenith trail]

Skyla (Holiday 2020) & Togekiss

Acquisition:

Seasonal

Alternates:

Skyla & Swanna
Skyla (Anniversary 2022) & Tornadus

Elesa (Palentine's 2023) & Togetic

Acquisition:

Seasonal

Alternates:

Elesa & Zebstrika
Elesa & Joltik
Sygna Suit Elesa & Rotom
Elesa (Classic) & Emolga

[wise herald]

Ah

Huh

[zenith trail]

Burgh (Spring 2021) & Togepi

Acquisition:

Seasonal

Alternates:

Burgh & Leavanny

[wise herald]

Blegh burgh

[royal sphinx]

[wise herald]

I already have him 3/5, he can stay out of my unova gen pool pulls

[royal sphinx]

Its funny that 3 Unova GLs get the Togepi line

[wise herald]

Don't get me wrong, his spring outfit is just...yikes

That's true actually

[royal sphinx]

Its not great imo

But the kit is really good

[wise herald]

Oversaturated colors, my eyes!

[royal sphinx]

I selected him in a paid scout

[wise herald]

Yea ik

From a meta standpoint he's a really good pull

But eh, fav > meta right

[royal sphinx]

Thats right

[wise herald]

man

fishing for that 40% mpr twice

from swimisty

is just yikes

but I'm glad it's done now

9 streaks so far lesgoo

[prime sentinel]

better get used to it if you're planning to commit to LG in the future!

jokes aside though, you're doing great

[wise herald]

thanks!

[wise herald]

lmao duly noted

it's just very stupid that I lost a winning run because I forgot to vigil swimisty

I thought I did

but apparently past Arts ran out of cookies and she ended up with stalwart

also muscle memory caused me to press razor shell first on bar 2

and I was like "oh no my jaw lock"

[prime sentinel]

eh, I used to have a lot of stupid lucky skills on my pairs too

i had acuity on ghetsis at some point, idk why I did that

[wise herald]

bruh moment

maybe some enemy had evasion buffs

I know I accidentally got rid of vigilance on sycamore

because I didn't know he had impervious and CS enemies kept debuffing his stats

*8 months ago

[royal sphinx]

[wise herald]

exactly

I keep getting dauntless too

smh

took me ~16 cookies to get vigilance on swimisty

so ig after this I'm back to cookie grind

I can probably push for 20...if I weren't orb bankrupt

LMAO

[prime sentinel]

the and 5 probably isn't worth the pain and suffering

[wise herald]

true ig

I'll stop at 16 at most

ig

[prime sentinel]

people do higher streaks for sense of achievement or they just really enjoy the gamemode

[wise herald]

yeah

I'm mostly looking forward to using the pairs I've been saving up

like ssa cynthia

and sycamore

[prime sentinel]

LG really made me appreciate some units i wouldn't really use otherwise

[wise herald]

to some extent it's the nuzlocke of pomas

[wise herald]

and quite frankly there's still like, around 5 more teams I want to try out

the sycamore mina + (find maylene replacement)
the ssa cynthia + (lusamine...maybe bugsy) + hilbert
the k grims + acerola + marley
the bulurola + mallow + someone team
darkrai + noland + something

[prime sentinel]

I'd go for lusamine on that ssa cynthia team. She could really use ssac's defense buffs

[wise herald]

true

is there any team I can condense? from the black text ones

or not built pairs that I can swap out with already built ones

ngl I do enjoy the gamemode

but it's unlikely that in 16 days I can grid all unbuilt pairs

but then some of my already built "OP" supports I reserved would be unused

[green coral]

Cobalion

1. Calem doesn't necessarily need grid, and if he does, it's probably just gonna be mprs and accuracy or something small like that
2. Erika doesn't necessarily need grid. She has piercing gaze. The most you'd want to go for is healing sun 2.
3. MR has nothing on his grid at 1/5 lmao
4. BPSurge doesn't really need much from grid, especially if Cheryl has some grid alr.

Azelf

1. don't need phoebe + aaron. go on or the other
2. Oh yeah forgot Noland wouldn't be built. Just use anyone that's gauge efficient (plumeria? )

Entei
2. Just need aggrivation on Wake. That's it really.
3. 1/5 syndrome. tbh I don't know how to fix this team.
5. I'm just worried about gauge

[wise herald]

Noted

Also, k grims is 3/5

So it's not 1/5 syndrome

Technically

[green coral]

iirc you complained about gauge on his team tho

[wise herald]

Yea, but that was with supp tauros

Marley should solve the issue

[green coral]

I was referring to Plumeria since she has the perfect utility kit for kgrim

mgb, max speed, and 1 gauge flinch

[wise herald]

Noted

1/5 plumeria tho

Ss grims needs his grid right

[wise herald]

So you're saying swap acerola for plumeria,

That makes more sens3

[green coral]

not with 1/5

idk if you're ready to solely rely on 1 60% flinch for multiple sync cycles

[wise herald]

Lmao

Probably not

Wait, are we talking about noland

Or k grims team

[green coral]

kgrims team

[wise herald]

K grims has a 30% flinch + aggrav on iron head

[green coral]

for darkrai, you just need meatshields and gauge, which was why I suggested plumeria as filler there

[wise herald]

So it's two flinchers with acerola/plumeria

[green coral]

but 2 flinchers burn through gauge as stated / experienced

[wise herald]

Good point

Hmmm, marley speed boost cant salvage the team?

[green coral]

sometimes if the whole team is slow in general, it may not be enough sometimes

[wise herald]

Good point

[green coral]

tho I've never tried or seen that team in action so you gotta tell me whether it actually works

cuz I'm planning my lg sheet

[wise herald]

Noted

Good luck

I'll report back

[green coral]

I didn't realize kgrim ex can wipe out bars without sync buffs

[wise herald]

Ran out of blue 3* cookies

Hmmm

Is this good enough

Probably not

Do I really have to go and burn my purple gauntlet cookies

[royal sphinx]

dont

farm cookies in LG

and get Vigilance on Bulurola

[wise herald]

Reset my streak? Obviously I can't do that

But yeah, noted

[royal sphinx]

why not you have nearly 2 weeks to prepare for 10 streaks

farming cookies is really good

[wise herald]

Noted

Redoing everything again...ugh, sounds like a pain

But tbh it's fun

[chilly schooner]

You can just reset on the last day and run through with some OP teams for awhile

[wise herald]

So, to reconfirm, before I press the reset button: I reset now, farm cookies for 13 days, then redo my streak for the last 3 days?

[royal sphinx]

Seems like a good choice

[wise herald]

Noted

[wise herald]

Side note but any good EX candidates?

[prime sentinel]

can you send your roster again

[wise herald]

^

Not pictured: bp surge, bp morty

[prime sentinel]

At those move levels, i'd say Leaf and KGrimsley

Kgrimsley has a lethal nuke

[royal sphinx]

Leafvee and Skyla

if you dont want to EX more supports atm, hold off your resources

oh yeah KGrimsley as well, but you already have EX Solgaleo

[wise herald]

Ah wait leaf is already EXd

[wise herald]

Yeah, which was why I was unhappy

[wise herald]

Noted

[royal sphinx]

consider EXing some lodge pairs as well

wait i thought you had LDawn for some reasons

[wise herald]

Hmm, between tl blue, tl elesa, and tl morty, does any of them really appreciate EX?

Or 4/5 sabrina

[royal sphinx]

Sabrina seems like a good choice

BP Morty is really good generally

[wise herald]

Does 2/5 lusamine want a grid

Because if yes, might as well also build her for CS

[green coral]

I mean, she doesn't really have much

the only thing you would want in that team comp is her tm mpr for crit

[wise herald]

For now.

[royal sphinx]

10 streaks

[wise herald]

Will be back once I get all my cookies

[prime sentinel]

you're already doing pretty well

[wise herald]

And this marks the first 12.5k CS I did without any direct help

You can tell, the teams are all suspicious

Also, sentry entry 2 and discharge HE? I hate bug weak Hau

[royal sphinx]

Yo congrats

[wise herald]

Thanks

[prime sentinel]

[chilly schooner]

Stall that rat

[wise herald]

Fished out a dawn from sinnoh ticket

Lodge speedrun time

[royal sphinx]

[wise herald]

What's LDawns deal

Also realized I had no true offtype recourse other than cyrus rain memes and ss steven nuke

[royal sphinx]

basically spatk version of Skyla without Potion

[wise herald]

(Thanks hau)

Noted

Recuper?

[royal sphinx]

Sync Regener

[wise herald]

Lmaooo

[wise herald]

Thinking about EXing May

SS

[royal sphinx]

at 1/5 she only has decent dps offtype

dont know if EX can fix that issue

[wise herald]

Point taken

[wise herald]

I fished out a psychic terrain!!!!

Bianca

(Also, 2/5 kiawe and 2/5 mr)

[royal sphinx]

good pulls indeed

[wise herald]

2 of them are from gen pool tickets

Kiawe is the only one from poma day

[green coral]

kiawe sslusamine bianca is a free psychic CSMM 2.5K clear

[wise herald]

Lmao true

But consider this: I didn't pull for ss lussamine

[green coral]

oh sorry I just use that combo 😅

filler buffer, sssteven, bianca should also work due to sssteven's equally or more busted sync

[wise herald]

yea lmao

[wise herald]

Game decided

To taunt me

By giving me elio

Just after aloVA was over

[royal sphinx]

lol

[wise herald]

The good news is that

I did get some useful dupes

So I can actually do comfortable gauntlet clears

10

I just need to replan ig

[green coral]

Tm1 on elio and that’s basically a free clear for half the LAs

[wise herald]

Yea

[wise herald]

Irida vs lucas

Dawn is obviously easy

[wise herald]

Behold the pain of 1/5 dawn and 1/5 ssr cynthia and no BP ticket

[royal sphinx]

is that 3/5 Irida?

and is it part 2?

[wise herald]

Yeah to both questions

Got irida far too close to pity

So 3/5'ed her

[royal sphinx]

lol brute forcing with Irida

very impressive

[wise herald]

Thanks!

Took some resetting

The main issue is that irida has no ice zone mpr

So I need to delay ice zone until ssa cynthia syncs first

And then delay the second ice zone until kabutops rain dance

[royal sphinx]

yeah if only she had mpr instead of entry zone

did you pick her zone extension?

[wise herald]

Yep

It is what it is, her grid is actually pretty expensive all in all

[wise herald]

Arts' meme clears

Featuring "finally, psychic terrain" bianca

"I hate bisharp Eva buffs" zinnia

[wise herald]

"MF shafted me and I was too close to pity" Irida

[royal sphinx]

so what are the remaining 2 memes

[green coral]

No speed, overkill

Both can go for both

[wise herald]

"I insisted on using 1/5 ssr cynthia and forgot to turn off physical damage reduction" cynthia

And "gee, you're still kind of slow" solgaleo (complete skill issue on my part)

Aka where speed teams

[royal sphinx]

[wise herald]

Yeah ngl I could have just overkilled all of them

But I wanted to play with my new pairs

Fighting molayne on r2 for example was a dumb idea

But I really wanted to make bea ssa cynthia fighting zone nuke

[prime sentinel]

I fought Molayne r2 with that team too except I used Hilbert instead of Zinnia

I had to delay Bea's sync for about two moves but it feels great to literally OHKO molayne with first sync

half sync with ssa cynthia means my striker can sync under zone

[royal sphinx]

<-- perm field effects truther

[prime sentinel]

sadly there's no perma field effect this week

[royal sphinx]

would be perfect for Irida

[wise herald]

Exactly

[wise herald]

Yeahhh!!! You get it!!!

[wise herald]

Last 8 teams:
Coba:
Hop MR (2/5) og soph
Tl morty [damage dealer...og hau?] thorton/tate (I had her built for reasons)

Azelf:
Sycamore Maylene viola
Rosa Lucian (2/5) Ramos
Whitney SSRynthia Allister

Entei:
Bertha Olivia [someone, maybe 1/5 Kris or TL Silver]
Tl Elesa Phoebe og misty
Giocat ss grims Nanu

Have stuff like lunatone and blaine and ss elesa 2/5, kiawe 2/5, bea 2/5, wally 2/5, courtney 1/5, Aaron 3/5 untouched
TL sycamore

[wise herald]

Azelf backup: Aaron ??? TL dawn

BP Surge, Cheryl hasn't been touched

Coba is very much the bottleneck here

[prime sentinel]

maybe if you're new I can see how coba becomes a bottleneck. though we do have a lot of f2p paralyzers. drake, whitney, norman, clair to name a few

my gauntlet streaks ended because I honestly can't face Azelf anymore

the damn pixie gave me burnout

[prime sentinel]

the allister team will most likely face gauge issues

whitney can't facetank azelf bar 1 for too long. you have to rely on flinches and her flinch move is a 2-bar move, and I don't think you can juggle that alongside ssr cynthia and allister's three bar moves too

i would recommend tl morty to entei. full heal is nice. Hau on cobalion is fine, maybe just get a more reliable paralysis unit

and uh, idk what's your plan with that lodge elese team on entei. triple supports? also remember lodge elesa is weak to fire

bertha and olivia are already solid cores. I'd rather find a third unit that can quickly ramp up olivia

[wise herald]

Good point

I'm too tired to fix the teams rn

Any ideas?

[prime sentinel]

i'm also sleep deprived but let me see

are you redoing your streaks or continuing off from before?

[wise herald]

It's not the paralysis, it's finding damage dealers that will deal enough damage before coba kills the support

I was running bulurola og erika bea and then I realized agh bulurola folds too fast, bea eats too much gauge

That sort of issue keeps cropping up on coba

[prime sentinel]

#1022413718199476255 message completely not self promo haha you can probably find some ideas here

og erika can facetank under sun

i went erika/lyra/flint, lyra is gridded for solarize, have her sync repeatedly to keep the sun up. it was pretty easy

ofc you can change to any fire unit better than flint

the key node for lyra and erika is healing sun. erika has healing sun 2, that's powerful

[wise herald]

Here's my new streak so far

[prime sentinel]

so you're continuing off, I see

[wise herald]

Sorta kinda

[prime sentinel]

for a beginner this is already very solid

[wise herald]

Thanks!

[prime sentinel]

i ended up not using allister tbh. but if you do want to use ssr cynthia + allister duo, maaaaybe bp morty for flinches and defensive buffs. i'm still not too confident on the gauges, however

i duo'd with bp morty and ssr cynthia and it was smooth sailing but then again mine is 3/5 ex

[wise herald]

I mean, neither ssrynthia nor allister has been gridded anyways

So it's no big loss

I was going to bp morty sc zinnia calem coba after this

[prime sentinel]

i didn't end up using phoebe and lodge elesa either i wouldn't use lodge elesa vs entei unless you're flinchlocking though. phoebe I think is pretty universal, albeit very slow

[prime sentinel]

sounds solid enough

[wise herald]

Hmm I guess I'll abandon the phoebe team and the ssrynthia team

Orb bankruptcy is real

[prime sentinel]

do you have serena at 3/5 I wonder? you can try kiawe/serena/filler, it was pretty smooth for me

my kiawe is 2/5 too

[wise herald]

Was thinking to do tl morty BP surge/thorton hau for coba btw

[wise herald]

Hmm lemme check

But quite frankly those kalos tickets aren't doing anything either

I can spend them

[prime sentinel]

thorton for flinches?

[wise herald]

Yea

Hau was already gridded from AloVA

But neither of the three other possibke pairs are

[prime sentinel]

hmmmm I don't see Hau having any hostile environment tiles

so you're relying on 30% paralysis from discharge

wouldn't recommend that if you're not doing super high streaks, personally

[wise herald]

Well, 70 kalos tickets

[wise herald]

Yeah which was why I was considering BP surge

Since he wasn't getting used anyways

[prime sentinel]

he's a solid one

[wise herald]

BP surge TL Morty Hau?

[prime sentinel]

it seems like your orb shortage is making it even harder anyway... personally I'd rather grind the hell out of this LG for the next couple of days

[prime sentinel]

very overkill tbh but sure

or bp surge + hau + spare potion unit

[wise herald]

Yea exactly lmao

It's a bit oof

[prime sentinel]

it's fine, really. your streaks are already very solid and I'd rather grind regular 3* cookies with the time left

[wise herald]

Noted

[prime sentinel]

gotta go to sleep now. good luck, Arts

[wise herald]

I just want to clear out my already built pairs

Thanks

Good night too

[royal sphinx]

I remember you still struggling one week ago

Now you have come this far very impressive

[green coral]

you might end up with a higher streak than me if I ever forget to actually go for streak

my auto preset teams only goes up to 12

[prime sentinel]

and after all your theorycrafting too

[wise herald]

I hate coba

Non ex sc zinnia 1/5 doesn't have the firepower needed

To actually deal enough damage before BP morty misses a flinch and dies

Same deal with hau

I have so many azelf teams

But coba is bottlenecking it all

[wise herald]

Will try slotting in MR

Just go Hop MR Calem

Or BP Morty MR Calem

See if that solves coba one last time

[prime sentinel]

go for Hop

MR can't raise his own crit

[wise herald]

Noted

After coba I can solve entei twice and azelf once

And then stop ig

For azelf I still have Aaron + see 2/5 Wally

[green coral]

Can’t Hop solo DPS + tank?

[prime sentinel]

But why would you when you're not trying to be cheap

[wise herald]

20 streaks and done

Don't have the time to play nowadays

Plus sinnoh medal locks me out of csmm

[green coral]

me at 7

[wise herald]

Waiting for monday

[wise herald]

Almost clinched lucian with bugsy

But after 2 hours I just decided to poison stall

12.5k babey

[royal sphinx]

Nice

Lucian sucks as always

[wise herald]

Lmao yeah

This is basically oops half offtype, half sleep cheese

[wise herald]

let's see if I can revive this thread

oh!

well we're so back babey

[prime sentinel]

[royal sphinx]

you should join my thread too totally not shameless enticement

[prime sentinel]

Are you in mine?

[wise herald]

lemme search your name up

[prime sentinel]

I have 3 threads but mainly 2 are active

[wise herald]

Clear screen roster

Unsurprisingly, kahili was the one who took the most resets

Had to shuffle her to round 4 because round 2 wasn't working

[royal sphinx]

Giovanni isnt too good at tanking, and yours is only lvl 108

[wise herald]

Ye

[royal sphinx]

Is this MM?

[wise herald]

Yep

12.5k

[wise herald]

Meanwhile I steamrolled Hau so perhaps I should have just used NC Bede lmao

[royal sphinx]

[wise herald]

Quite funny that I took a break on alola CS

And returned to alola CS

[royal sphinx]

Do you plan to do 15k soon?

[wise herald]

Probably, when Meloetta drops

I'm comfortably clearing 12.5k

[royal sphinx]

[wise herald]

Just, uh, depends on typing ig

This week is almost all on type

Only offtyped Molayne

And Hau

Because I don't have fighting/bug

ignoring my beedrill

[royal sphinx]

You can check #1009554906568462476 pins for the type chart of Alola CS

Solgaleo is solid with Focus Blast dps. You should try it some time

Oh do you have Bea?

[wise herald]

Oh wait Solgaleo and Bea

Yeah

Wait, huh, I could have just nuked Molayne

With Bea Lucario

I'm throwing

This is what 6 months break does to your memory of your roster

Oopsie!

[royal sphinx]