Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)

[bitter gate]

not a single one dropped def

[true tartan]

go roll on a banner

DeNA owns you a spotlight

lol

[bitter gate]

my next run had me miss it thrice in a row

lol

[bitter gate]

got the "god run" on Registeel, but she just gets overwhelmed anyway

you can at best explode trade kill bar 2

but even with FA + clang dropping spdef, hyper beam + any special attack will always kill you

[river cliff]

I think I'll stick with the roark duo lol

[karmic willow]

https://x.com/TALDYSJfJNLjkzP/status/1870389927718117671?t=Kf3pBrk8PHEmmQR_WH4uSw&s=19

令和 (@TALDYSJfJNLjkzP) on X

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Twitter · Dec 21, 2024, 8:44 AM

Strikemon tier list i found

You know it's so weird that given how good sup scyther is i would probably not use strike on azelf next time

[worthy horizon]

surprised a recoil unit found its way to s

[rocky oasis]

meowth takes 10% iirc

[worthy horizon]

and yeah the existence of support and tech versions and only being able to use one in gauntlet makes most of these irrelevant there

[rocky oasis]

or under idk

[worthy horizon]

oh the recoil is based on its own health

so 5% per with standfast 9 i would think

[rocky oasis]

has regen too

so not that bad

[worthy horizon]

ah yeah

[rocky oasis]

its like raihan

only bad thing about striker perserker is that its special and regirock wants phys

you can def make the cat put in work i think

not that id ever use it over tech

but thats just bc flinch is so good

i vaguely remember spmeone here making a case for striker kakuna

[worthy horizon]

kakuna relevance is for tech or support for poison sting for 1 bar 30% poison move, strike is also using poison sting which isn't dealing much

tech would be favored usually

[rocky oasis]

It was about striker kakuna as a gauge battery

striker persian is a torn counter i guess

a pretty miserable one but still

[worthy horizon]

tech would be a better gauge battery

most of those aren't even tested anywhere, can tell bc lv 1 and i don't think they're pulling images from anywhere other than their own game

[rocky oasis]

i forgot what tech kakuna does

Oh well

[rocky oasis]

ok fair

[hallow gull]

I remember striker pop up bc it has GH right ?

[rocky oasis]

I have tested striker perserker and aero + spearow

perserker was good

aero... not so much

tried it against moltres

it aint doing enough dmg to run over tech

[worthy horizon]

strike does have gh yeah

i don't think i was around whenever strike kakuna talk happened

[rocky oasis]

aero having 80% stone edge SUCKS

fearow was ok vs bulu bar 1? not enough to run over the other 2

maybe good if you need a bit of extra dps for a solo

[hallow gull]

My question is it that tier base on LG performance ? Or just dmg they can deal ?

[rocky oasis]

probably general tier list

[hallow gull]

Bc ofc Solar Blade and other 4 bar moves is stronger than other below

[rocky oasis]

Striker karp is a meme i think

but gyara can put in work vs entei

[bright brook]

We've got latios #399

[bitter gate]

By who

[rocky oasis]

did they snipe bp falk from me

[bitter gate]

Did someone snipe Lisia from me

again

[rocky oasis]

rip

congrats

i couldnt get thte stars to align

[bright brook]

No shame. It's a horrible run

[bitter gate]

Oh, cgz

the amount of dodges that needed, I reckon

[gleaming cypress]

seems very dodge heavy

very, very dodge reliant

[rocky oasis]

for some reason i almost never have enough hp left to live the swift

[bright brook]

Yea and confusion procs

[rocky oasis]

weird that swift is what kills my runs but it did

i didnt run overwhelm tho

[gleaming cypress]

is the solo +10E with DR gear

[bright brook]

Yea i got 8% left after swift. Dodged both surf and double edge in bar 3.

[rocky oasis]

i think more sync nodes is better than overwhelm weirdly enough

[bright brook]

Overwhelm isnt that helpful considering it helps a tiny bit with zen headbutt in bar 1, but honestly theres not much else i could take

[rocky oasis]

ripple effect?

[bright brook]

Yes

[bright brook]

Depends

If you grab 3 sync nodes + CS2 only then you one shot dnite with ur first sync

And i found wise entry 2 to be more consistent, hence why i dropped the sync nodes

[rocky oasis]

Huh

I was running cs2 yeah

bc no purple cookies

[bitter gate]

I'll be dedicating some time to retry the Skyla solos tmr

[bright brook]

That's just a theory. I made bar 3 in a run with CS2 but i had to dodge a lot more

if you dodge enough it doesn't even matter what LS u run

[bitter gate]

Same deal with Lodge Volo

which is probably the next most likely solo

[bright brook]

I dont think so...

[bitter gate]

Hmm

If not him, who do you think takes it

[worthy horizon]

i still feel like marley is one of the best left

but 6+ mprs

on a one use tm

[bitter gate]

Yeah you need like really dumb MPR chains for it to work

lol

[bright brook]

I think lemmay was attempting volo and i gave it a shot like a while ago with DR gears + 5-6 sands... And i couldn't win

Not only that i also felt that it was such a long shot, despite making it to bar 3

Accuracy debuffing isnt consistent, and sand MPR, and MGR, etc...

I dont care what everyone says, volo is, to me, the most unlikely solo among all the likely solos

[bitter gate]

Not sure what else you could use, idk, NY Lance?

[bright brook]

I wanna give some lodge unit a try

[bitter gate]

like, incredible precision on Bounce, maybe

[worthy horizon]

it is still mpr3, importantly

[rocky oasis]

i have lodge volo now but no orbs. so gl

[bitter gate]

I do have him 3/5 invested so

[bright brook]

I gotta go on my morning run now, but i'll get back to it later and we'll see.

[worthy horizon]

ny lance is impossible, 3 bounces and 2 potions and atrocious self buffs

[bitter gate]

NY Lance has sync quickening

and 2 MPR1s

so it's literally just

[worthy horizon]

ig

[bitter gate]

how well you time your shit tbh

also you have Flint

like, there was the barry agile entry solo

that Quaggles did

maybe someone wants to try Flint, idk

[worthy horizon]

i tried flint somewhat recently

might take quite a lot to just get out of bar 1

[bright brook]

Also...i do believe this is impossible

[worthy horizon]

morty solos notably have 4x the mpr rate of ny lance

[bitter gate]

if i couldn't do it idt anyone else can

[worthy horizon]

dang

[bitter gate]

my Phoebe is +10E lol

i tried it several times already

closest was like

a single sliver of health

[bright brook]

If she has endurance, then maybe.

[bitter gate]

yeah

wait for her cookie to give her healing or something

[bright brook]

Power reserves 3 DE does like half of her HP bar

[bitter gate]

give her synchro or catalytic

[bright brook]

Or acumen

[bitter gate]

without standfast she will sepuku

[bitter gate]

is this not HH?

mine ran HH, at least

[bright brook]

I ran ft2

[bitter gate]

huh, wow

was it really necessary?

[bright brook]

No if your double MGR is not working against you

[bitter gate]

I'll give it a try, I guess

what's your build

I see PR, but is it really necessary

[bright brook]

But i learned that the key to finishing bar 3 was to spam shadow punch + sync and unlease a DE after half bar.

I have to make sure i could spam shadow punch

[bitter gate]

is there a reason you run TTU over critforf

grid cost, I assume

[bright brook]

At the same time i think this is impossible until she gets a useful exclusive LS

[bitter gate]

this build is different from mine

maybe there's a way

especially with misses

[bright brook]

Yea and isnt that the most consistent way to max out her def?

[bitter gate]

40% on hit versus 70% when shadow punch

uhh

idt it is mate

If the MPR is not important I'll take damage tiles, I gues

[worthy horizon]

i still feel like taking every shadow punch tile is the call like

i was running something similar to that with wise entry but no overcap

got to 20% bar 2

[bitter gate]

yeah, the issue is you might want PR for the killing blow

since 30% on DE is a lot

[bright brook]

Kay im convinced

[bitter gate]

I also don't think sync emergency is worth it

over the flat tiles

idt it really helps you with particular ranges

[worthy horizon]

yeah that one is the most sus there

[bitter gate]

but yeah, I'll go test a HH version with MPR now

[bitter gate]

I'm running the +30 HP tile

for better last minute survivability

[bright brook]

Whats the furthest u got

[bitter gate]

two hits to death

third bar

But I was running sync emergency that time

which was kinda useless

[bright brook]

And latios's HP was?

[bitter gate]

about 30-40%

I wasn't convinced DE could've killed it, but I was greedy

[bright brook]

That's def DE range

[bitter gate]

ye lemme just adjust my gear and see

this should be my best gear?

taking as much DR as I can

or raw statline

[bright brook]

Decent gears.

[bitter gate]

also, I assume you guys follow the standard pattern also

kill Dnite > Mence > mid

without any magical HP manipulation

Also

I think they haven't fixed the Phoebe bug yte

[rocky oasis]

what bug

good bug or bad bug

[bitter gate]

bad one

she can't proc MPR if her attack is maxed

or her PMUNs

[rocky oasis]

huh wow

[bitter gate]

i reported it and they still haven't fixed it

in any case, after retesting

Fast-Track with PR is the better call, I think

okay, I think I know what to do, but I need a miss

if I get it, I should have enough juice to kill bar 3

[vital ibex]

Is that not usually the case for MPRs

If your stat is maxed and can't be raised any more, the move fails, hence cannot be refreshed

[bitter gate]

phoebe still recovers gauge

so the move is still successful

but it fails fsr

[vital ibex]

ooh ok

[bitter gate]

I need a miss

if I get one miss, I think I'm good

maybe when I reset gear on monday I can get something

[karmic willow]

Gh?

[gleaming cypress]

gradual healing

[heavy sinew]

A miss on what? Icy wind, meteor?Zen headbutt?

[bitter gate]

Icy wind

[heavy sinew]

figured, gl on that

[bitter gate]

With better gear I think you can get away with it

[lost juniper]

You recorded that?

[bright brook]

Yea

Was walking my dog

Uploading momentarily

[lost juniper]

Alright. Was simply curious

[dawn plume]

399 latios solos

so close…

[pliant glen]

Phoebe as our 400th Latios solo > The Lodges

[rocky oasis]

just lodge volo and gloria left apparent

so gloria, volo, phoebe, marley left as remaining solos

[tender horizon]

Akro doing solos while walking his dog tf

[bright brook]

uploaded

also yea, i cant find the time to do solos so

[dawn plume]

getting closer and closer

[pearl pawn]

I wonder how many more solos we’d have if we had a force field ls

[rocky oasis]

ran out of sandstorms?

[kind imp]

*Barricade buddies? nvm

Force field is aoe

[pearl pawn]

Ah ye

Isn’t barricade buddies also aoe

But on tm’s

[rocky oasis]

would be team / group barricade buddies

[dawn plume]

acumen

is for 1 unit

[pearl pawn]

Right

[vital ibex]

its honestly so odd we dont

ah yes, i love having mad strength and stoic in pink cookies and mind swell in purple ones

with no acumen to be seen

all of the cookie skills need a
massive rehaul imho

because who tf is gonna go out of their way to get power chain 3 in this day and age

[rocky oasis]

flannery has power chain on her grid too and its the most useless shit ever

like at least replace it w/ usable mults?

[vital ibex]

on god

like at least power flux since she only has a 1 bar dps move

[rocky oasis]

her usable mults are innate and cs5

ive given up on burn

[kind imp]

Her nine +4 ember tiles are also basically a multiplier

20->56 bp

Also kinda curious that two of them cost 2 energy and seven cost 3 energy, for a total of 25 energy

[rocky oasis]

i just run her as straight nuker

CS5 and syng nodes ( maybe fortidious depending on the comp )

thats all i use

her dps is too mediocre to be worth thinking about

[dawn plume]

this ones gonna keep me up at night

just needed one more dodge…

[true tartan]

DOOOOOOOOOOODGE

that or Shio gets Lisia on Latios*

dude got to under 10% without extra energy

[bitter gate]

Wtf?

What did he do

[true tartan]

who will win

Volo by Lemmay

or Lisia by Shio/Rion

[chrome halo]

how about Phoebe

also does SC Sonia have a shot if she procs Twofer every turn

[true tartan]

Evasion or Damage

[rocky oasis]

putting my $ on volo

which is a grand total of $5

bc im a broke student

[bitter gate]

He got two crits in a row

Lol

Like natural ones

What are the odds even

[gleaming cypress]

evasion stall go brrr

[pearl beacon]

Go gimblo!

[worthy horizon]

read somewhere that crits in this game are actually 1/8 instead of 1/16

unboosted

bulbapedia

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Critical_hit#Pokémon_Masters_EX

[chrome halo]

1/8 is too high from my experience

actually i think there has never been a serious research about it?

[river cliff]

Seems about right as far as them happening in critical moments

It'd be interesting to test it

[worthy horizon]

could i believe 1/8 wood hammers have crit me? yes

[true tartan]

it is 1/24

I've done the tests, not so exhaustive

but in 300 hits, 15 were natcrits

if you want to do it, is not so hard, use 2 or 3 no quarter units without sure crit

and count the amount of crits per stage

guess I'll do it again

[worthy horizon]

that would be in line with then gen 7 onwards crit rate

[true tartan]

yep

I tested it around 1 year ago

I'll just do a video and let someone count lol

[worthy horizon]

i'll take that as a more reliable source over bulbapedia already

[true tartan]

aight, used 3 no quarter units

not so many crits

https://youtu.be/vjwJK7EBRHU

anyone willing to count?

count moves -> count crits
multiply moves by 5
crits/total

[worthy horizon]

by the time it reached 10 crits at 2:33 it was on 155 attempts counting to the best of my ability

[rocky oasis]

what does the code say

[worthy horizon]

don't think that's available info

[bitter gate]

i keep getting critted consecutively lol

[bitter gate]

Okay

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1302910006571696220/1320258886946656387/Screenshot_2024-12-22-13-16-57-643_com.dena.a12026418.jpg?ex=6768f267&is=6767a0e7&hm=2639626989ef0741de69ea3157c2b79e79fd62059666574b80ff42eeadb3a73f&

Now I get what I need to do

I either get an Icy Wind miss

or get enough gear so I can survive the surf

tmr

I missed my sync crit

that's the tilting part

which would've done 14k

and two punches into DE would've done the trick afterwards

[bitter gate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1302910006571696220/1320264426644967424/Screenshot_2024-12-22-13-38-58-519_com.dena.a12026418.jpg?ex=6768f790&is=6767a610&hm=a14a068df342eb485f385801fe7ac57fd2748d42939e1ab7752d782c01bcf1a7&

again, ree

[true tartan]

Rafa'd

[bitter gate]

aaah, I greeded

[true tartan]

:T

[bitter gate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1302910006571696220/1320266872272322601/Screenshot_2024-12-22-13-48-59-324_com.dena.a12026418.jpg?ex=6768f9d7&is=6767a857&hm=7ff3bcae8963f55edb5dfb4619bdf9939a6827cc0520d5759a987168fe252962&

If I hit it

rather than shadow punched

maybe that was it

I dodged the icy wind

But yeah it is a very tight clear, that or I have to greed taking DM, idk

@true tartan can you math -4 surfs on bar 2/3

and see how much damage it does

vs -2

vs a -2 phoebe

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1302910006571696220/1320267632108109876/Screenshot_2024-12-22-13-52-00-832_com.miui.videoplayer.jpg?ex=6768fa8c&is=6767a90c&hm=1c11ba8b562e6c2e62e7247fa5efda681634c35bcd2f1a2772129aca24707338&

[dawn plume]

what’s phoebe’s win condition?

i kinda thought that with no sustain or interference she just doesnt have enough hp or damage

dunno what crazy rng can fix

[worthy horizon]

she has sustain, just not a ton esp for how little damage she has

multiple methods of boosting def and first aid 4

innate vigi matters

[bitter gate]

her wincon is to take the surf on bar 3

then sync > Shadow punch > DE

so you require either really excellent gear

dodge icy wind

or just both

Like Phoebe has the damage

just not the right combination of damage and bulk

like if she had like some form of spdef buff

she would've been able to do it

[worthy horizon]

yeah

[bitter gate]

but unfortunately they polarized her

or even FA6

rather than FA4

she's just a very unfortunate case

Probably the worst 5* general support in modern history?

Unless you want to advocate Cheren for that

in which case skippingmud will probably protest

[river cliff]

Ss elesa and piers are definitely up there too

[worthy horizon]

i'd value phoebe above cheren, +3 crit is important and having literally 0 stat buffs without grid is a bit of a drawback

not that cheren doesn't have good spots to be used

[blazing pagoda]

They still can get something nice in a future grid expansion trainer sync redemption for SS Elesa pls

[river cliff]

Thunder HE would go a long way too

Though I'm half expecting them to give her blind spot

[pearl pawn]

Real

[kind imp]

It took me some time to realize that tornadus *and Moltres were always critting their air cutters, then I checked and it really has a 50/50 crit rate

[pearl pawn]

Ye

[bitter gate]

elesa is fair, piers still has a good enough frontline

just not a good distributed one

[river cliff]

He feels like a very slight upgrade to phoebe

[worthy horizon]

piers can block noland's stuff though which i just checked to make sure

[rocky oasis]

he's ok

probably needs the buff less than gladion

ss grims cant get his fast enough

alola grims is fine imo

flawed but ok

[vital ibex]

IM SO EXCITEDDDD ONLY 3 MORE DAYS

[vital ibex]

meant to reply to this

point stands

[vital ibex]

out of all the gen pool 5 stars id say he's definitely one of the better ones

all he really needs is speed buffs/free moves and he'd be a lot better

maybe some sort of metal burst/heal refresh too so he can do it more than once or work as a sub-tank like hugh

[worthy horizon]

outdamaging kris per sync after mega evo by quite a margin, like 1.47x

1.36x if kris has expanded grid for extra sync tile

but no guaranteed crits

for ss grimsley

[gleaming cypress]

but the TM takes like 90% of your HP tho

so you need to buff with allies or he crumbles

even in DC

kris has more reliable self buffing

[worthy horizon]

can get first aid 4 without dropping any sync tiles with +6e but any potion user will keep him alive

ss grimsley will need help with inertia too

[bitter gate]

It's also harder to max grims stats on his own than Kris

[worthy horizon]

doesn't currently clean nuke entei bars currently but he can after expansion

[quaint tartan]

Pls be kind with SSElesa expansion

[raven crane]

Wife mention.

[true tartan]

in theory, it should do x1.14% more damage

[bitter gate]

ye

i'm just wondering if it's worth taking one extra draco meteor

or not

[true tartan]

well... just that lol

x1.14 more damage

[dawn plume]

i tried experimenting w wise entry on lodge volo for latios… verdict is no, the hp saved isnt worth the amount he takes from the eq he has no means of skipping

vigilance it is

the perfect run would have volo only hit by 3 moves: the opening draco meteor, the draco meteor after telekinesis, and the sure hit eq

i can get hit by a few moves early though…

[stuck mantle]

Lol wat a competion volo vs phoebe on 400 solo😄

[rocky oasis]

anyone still doing gloria

[pearl pawn]

It’s that few?

[rocky oasis]

theres more but these are the early ones

almost everythign more recent than elio is decent

except for looker

i guess drasna could use a buff too but she at least has smth going for her

oh yeah then theres sidneys mega sync too but he's somewhat functional

[lost juniper]

https://youtu.be/9EEjgTlDcfY

Cause no one was doing it, I decided to lower Holiday Bugsy on Latios to 1/5

[dawn plume]

ezpz

[shy notch]

Lithe and Unflappable came in clutch

[lost juniper]

Sure did. He can't prevent burn but this is just more praying to the rng god

[dawn plume]

huh what

whend that happen

[true tartan]

check logs lol

but was around this week

snow invested on Blue and went on all of that lol

[worthy horizon]

snow's been a machine lately

[dawn plume]

datamine tonight... youtube is being slow but i'm uploading my closest attempt on lodge volo vs latios and a guide of my strat

if anyone else wants to try

its suffering

i dont know if im strong enough to keep trying this

[dawn plume]

+suffer

[worn skiff]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1100527495855476916/1134565143406194808/image.png?width=902&height=178

[dawn plume]

yeah

[median swan]

me farming a fleur cannon miss in fairy dc

[shy sinew]

ah yeah I gave up on that one too and just took the lower 3m strat that involves reactivating b move before syncing so you could at least get seun on it

[true tartan]

well...

the votes have talked

[gleaming cypress]

unyielding procs vs evasion procs

[dawn plume]

man.

i know quaggles was trying this for a while too

but he got olivia instead i cant believe that was more reasonable than this

but he also had way better skill gears

(even though mine are pretty good)

https://x.com/MizoreAwayuki/status/1870996957680001516

Ｓｎｏｗ／淡雪 (@MizoreAwayuki) on X

超覚醒やＥＸロールを待たなくても、いける気配を察知した・・・

Twitter · Dec 23, 2024, 12:56 AM

cook?

[true tartan]

I've tried that one...

can't see it happening... I can reach bar 3

but that's about it

[dawn plume]

i would be flabbergasted

[true tartan]

unless you get infinite MPRs

if Gloria gets MPR after MPR, she can do it lol

[dawn plume]

isnt her tm mpr1

[true tartan]

yep

that's why I've gotten to bar 3 lol

[dawn plume]

oh horrible

[true tartan]

you get 1 for free back with Sync Burst

is more of...

attack -> TM (fish for refresh)

attack until 2 CD

TM -> Sync

and you're "back" to all MPRs

[dawn plume]

she'll get it when she gets buffed (exr and sa) i cant see a reason to try torturing yourself with that lol

[true tartan]

depends on the EX R

but 6/5 SA would be good enough already

[dawn plume]

https://youtu.be/lkrbZTYgfL0?si=SqJiscYAmJowe13H this took 2 hours to upload

@thick dawn were you still trying this one?

[true tartan]

2 moves away

now look at some madman EX R Hapu for this

[dawn plume]

the unlucky thing that happened here is salamence dropping and latios going to bar 2 off the same bulldoze

i normally want to keep latios alive long enough to get a draco meteor off

that way it doesnt have gauge going into bar 2 and i can skip swift

[thick dawn]

not even a little it's so ass lmao

[dawn plume]

its really truly horrible

i'm shocked OLIVIA was more reasonable than this

[true tartan]

om case anyone wonders about how far I got with Gloria on Latios

if anything... getting Rock Slide/Heat Wave to miss

that'd mean she'd be at 50% HP

50% if HW miss, 65ish if RS misses (but it won't, I wait for tele to hit)

is more HW missing that impacts... as it would put Gloria on a range to tank 1 Surf

[pearl beacon]

Holy crépes

Oh wait I tought they got it

[dawn plume]

nah

[bitter gate]

Mine today or nah

[thick dawn]

rooting for u guys to close out the 400 btw

[dawn plume]

it is today

[thick dawn]

i was the 300th which is good enough for me !

[bitter gate]

Give me healing on Anabel

Give me my 13-14

[dawn plume]

oop i called hop and pincurchin

we needed MORE ELECTRIC TERRAIN

LETS GOOOOOOOOO

[hollow ether]

Datamine already? So fast

Let's see if LG will happen along with HSE xd

[dawn plume]

december datamines have been early before, staff probably pushes it out so they can take the holidays off

oh neat a new mechanic that doesnt affect legendary arena solo clears at all

@sturdy steeple ur girl got in lodge

[gleaming cypress]

new giovanni alt

will it be seasonal, PF or MF...
but more importantly will it have the new gimmick

[dawn plume]

poke fair if i had to guess

[chrome halo]

what if we are getting both LG and the less relevant mode - HSE next month

[sturdy steeple]

im so so so so happy

[sturdy steeple]

dont tell me thats mix lucas

[dawn plume]

i knew sandaconda was coming

[sturdy steeple]

ill scream

[dawn plume]

MIX LUCAS LMFAO

[worthy horizon]

ss alt gio

salt gio

[heavy sinew]

oh shit raihan

[dawn plume]

i know a guy who will enjoy this

[true tartan]

oh, Lana got Lanturn

I lreally like Lanturn

[median swan]

omg it absolutely is isn't it

[dawn plume]

welp

[median swan]

he got the wrong starter too

[dawn plume]

get ready for barry and infernape and dawn and empoleon later this year

finally an infernape worth a damn

...but lucas should've gotten it

[hollow ether]

Finally Alt Raihan

[worthy horizon]

marshal ex

[hollow ether]

I'm happy but low gem, sad

[dawn plume]

raihan is serving

[heavy sinew]

what a lad

[dawn plume]

milo already in selects 💀

[hallow gull]

He is so flop that they already throw into select

[hollow ether]

Let's go Mela & Atticus

[hallow gull]

☠️

But Raihan look cool tho

Ninja

[pearl pawn]

Who was the 200th Latios

[heavy sinew]

shouldve been gen pool

[hollow ether]

Need gems for Raihan pls 😱

[sturdy steeple]

skull and crossbones

[hollow ether]

I was expecting Flint will getting NY alt this year Xd

But Raihan, better haha

[worthy horizon]

they're saying torterra is ground

[dawn plume]

oh it is

thats the ground color

[worthy horizon]

fighting and steel upcoming then

sinnoh gives them a chance to get out of fire/water/grass

all three have secondary typing at full evo

[dawn plume]

omg iono in monthly scout

they actually are updating it

hse banner

why paulo look like that

doesnt seem to be an lg banner

[worthy horizon]

team rocket banner returns

[chrome halo]

this is wild

[pearl beacon]

Variety 2 lucas?

[dawn plume]

its mix

[worthy horizon]

ground type too

[pearl beacon]

Oh.mix

[dawn plume]

im guessing next mix will be ground fighting steel

lucas barry dawn

[bright brook]

Do we have LG next month

[pearl beacon]

rip johto

[dawn plume]

negatory on LG

[pearl beacon]

[dawn plume]

but super sparring is back for the 4TH MONTH IN A ROWWWW LETS GO SUPER SPARRING WE LOVE SUPER SPARRING

[wise raven]

no LG ded game

[pearl beacon]

[bright brook]

Sed

[thick dawn]

lets be real it is not surprising LG isn't this month but we all still hoped lmao

[pearl beacon]

Give our

[worthy horizon]

dc is fun but we can definitely afford a skip month or two for ranked

guess it's just a mainstay now

[heavy sinew]

Thats it. That seals the deal. Im no longer an LG fan. I’ve been an LG fan since 2004 and a P2W player since 2010. I will no longer play this game or spend my money on Google Play cards for this. I’m taking my fanhood to PTCGP where they actually know how to run a gacha game.

[bitter gate]

Still no LG?

Huh.

[bright brook]

I think i speak for everyone when i say we dont want super sparring every month

[dawn plume]

so lemme get this straight

black rayquaza app icon
black rayquaza event
anni steven merch giveaway on twitter

anni n rerun

[hollow ether]

Man, why January have so many new units? Plus MF? Greedy

[brisk sapphire]

As a DC enthusiasts, I agree

I need muh cookies

[pearl beacon]

Gio looks cool, select for the february months

[hollow ether]

So MF Giovanni is kinda same treatment as NC Rosa last year

[heavy sinew]

I ran out of fucking 1 and 3*\ deluxe

[bitter gate]

Is this another case of "majority lash"

I wonder

Majority enjoys dopamine number simulator and that's why they think

more DC = more fun

[kind imp]

And I'm gonna go back to ptcgo ||they shut down the servers in june last year||

[gleaming cypress]

DC takes far less time and sweat than HSE or LG

[wise raven]

I thought whales prefer LG than DC

[gleaming cypress]

not everyone can spend hours to plan teams but most people can spend an hour to poison stall or make halfhearted attempts on the three stages

[pearl beacon]

Just don't cut LG time and events

[dawn plume]

DC gives better rewards but they could also just... improve LG rewards...

[gleaming cypress]

probably true for the high-ranking LG players but that's far from everyone

[pearl beacon]

Yeah

Droppo the shoppo

[dawn plume]

LG still dont give role cake coins or sprint/field coins

just

fix that

boom

good mode

[worthy horizon]

dc people really want cookies too though

[dawn plume]

yeah its dumb that the optimal lucky skills for dc are locked behind lg

[bitter gate]

Yeah, so I'm wondering if they want to

rework the cookie economy or

if something else is going on

[dawn plume]

also mfw all of team star gonna get in before florian and juliana

[worthy horizon]

month where hs was announced and hs and lg typically don't overlap so it was kinda expected

[dawn plume]

absol dropped the superawakeninings 👀

THIS IS ALL SHIT HE CAN ALREADY DO (besides endure i guess)

[hallow gull]

Wtf is this SA

[dawn plume]

this is better than it looks on paper

[bright brook]

Cant wait to SA SS Steven because he benefits so much from the stat buffs

[bitter gate]

Reduces the user’s sync move countdown by three after using its max move. Reduces attack move damage taken by allies when effects that apply only to the allied field of play are in effect.

I am

[river cliff]

Man egg tentacruel is so mid

[bitter gate]

really really sad

[dawn plume]

gloria gets 5 +3 pmuns per battle without mprs

thats solid tbh

arvens also sucks but he just wants the stats anyways

defense crush 9 and all allies moves up when hitting restrained target

he should still be able to get tornadus now i think

[karmic willow]

Yeah

[chrome halo]

Arven's lacks rebuffs i'm sad

but the restrained multiplier is great

[dawn plume]

lisia grid expansion

oh no

anni n is getting 5/5 tiles

[true tartan]

at least one win for Rion?

[dawn plume]

oh dear

[gleaming cypress]

on god?

[karmic willow]

She can solo latios finally?

[karmic willow]

Oh god

Wait for real?

Damn

All mf have to be 5/5?

[dawn plume]

so is giovanni

so

yep

[bright brook]

I hope that's enough for her to solo latios

[karmic willow]

DAMMIT

[dawn plume]

looks like all MFs are getting it at some point

pokemon masters in 2025

[karmic willow]

5/5 Rosa let's go

It is peak

She is her

I hope she solos torn with 5/5 nodes

[chrome halo]

my 5/5 Anni Lillie and Zerena are screaming in joy

[worthy horizon]

3 good cookies

[karmic willow]

Oh god

Idk if i would give valerie that

[gleaming cypress]

does marshal EX actually change anything

registeel?

ehhh

[karmic willow]

She is too busy with you know, stuff

[worthy horizon]

not amazing but still useful

naw

[heavy sinew]

5/5 tiles for Anni n

[karmic willow]

5/5 master fairs are real

[worthy horizon]

20/20 marshal already exists and ex doesn't change registeel

[karmic willow]

We are so fucked

[bitter gate]

LISIA EXPANSION

GIMME

[dawn plume]

yep anni n and new giovanni have 5/5 tiles

so i guess all master fairs will

except ash LOL

[blissful rose]

It was bound to happen. Glad that I'm already taking a step back from the game.

[worthy horizon]

0 energy cost now

for 4/5 and 5/5 tiles on mfs

[blissful rose]

Dena speedrun eos.

[dawn plume]

lisia can max her crit now and has brain sync 9

[heavy sinew]

fellas if eos is happening soon it's been an honor gaming with y'all

[dawn plume]

yea this is a good grid expansion

sharp entry 2, so +2 on entry and +1 on mega

[gleaming cypress]

EoS is an overreaction to 5/5 MF tiles

[worthy horizon]

don't think new gio has 4/5 and 5/5 tiles?

[bitter gate]

I can get 3 kills on Lisia

though I imagine other people will get to it before me

Maybe Latias is doable, idk?

[gleaming cypress]

40 HP is nice

[worthy horizon]

never latias

[gleaming cypress]

actually the expanded tiles give her alot more survivability

[bitter gate]

you underestimate her

I already did the Lisia duo with a cheap special support once

I can probably do it again, but we'll see

[worthy horizon]

why should lisia get it and not 10/5 diantha

[shy notch]

Ew 5/5 MF tiles…though I’m probably willing to do it for Adaman

[dawn plume]

he does

[bitter gate]

because she doesn't fold like a wet paper noodle

for one

but you may be right

[dawn plume]

lmfao raihan's sandaconda is dynamax but not gmax

[chrome halo]

why does Blossom have to have Charm...

[dawn plume]

ohh dc hop has flinch and recover

and gradual healing

hmmm

[median swan]

and para!

[worthy horizon]

no brybry update hurts, not used to needing to navigate grids through pastebins lol

maybe not tonight

[gleaming cypress]

yo this furisode girl might not be shit

gets 1 stat increase per status move and can sleep chain

[kind imp]

Seems he's prob gonna get the 400th solo then need sleep, gn

In like 10 min

[dawn plume]

no he drops jan 1

yo atticus is kinda fucked

[chrome halo]

does he have a way to set Poison DF more than once

[dawn plume]

on grid yeah

he can apply it w every sync

[chrome halo]

i'm guessing 4/5+

[dawn plume]

actually 3/5

im surprised

[chrome halo]

okay now i'm surprised too

he will get my candies if i get him

him + Mela are going to destroy my savings next month

[gleaming cypress]

so basically he's a pseudo-field unit with that 3/5 tile

[dawn plume]

giovanni is a mf support but... he seems really gimmicky...

he has two buddy moves which is a first

basically he uses stockpile to buff his defenses, then his b moves either heal the team (2 uses) or do damage (unlimited uses), but then he loses his defensive buffs (think jacq and clavell)

stockpile should be fast spammable since it buffs 2 stats... its 2 bar though which sucks

so for solos, he could theoretically just spam stockpile and only do damage w sync

using the buddy moves and losing your defensive buffs seems risky

he literally cannot use an attacking move without using up his defensive buffs

[thick dawn]

there's no shot stockpile animation is taking less than like 4 seconds lol

[dawn plume]

it should be instant

like defend order or cosmic power

it does activate his passive though

his solo strat is just gonna be spam stockpile and sync i think

[thick dawn]

ok I was gonna say I wouldn't call cosmic power instant but you're saying when defenses are maxed

myb

[dawn plume]

yea when maxed

[gleaming cypress]

infliction freebie 9 at 3/5

[dawn plume]

with his passive he maxes his defenses in 2 stockpiles

[gleaming cypress]

so he won't run out of gauge at least

[dawn plume]

oop there it is lol

[gleaming cypress]

also team FT9

[dawn plume]

hes a dc unit

go figure

also team sync regen

yeah in LG i think he just never touches his b moves LOL

[worthy horizon]

don't think he's dc relevant

[bitter gate]

he's not, yeah

too slow

but he has a good shot at 14 no

he just

doesn't die

[gleaming cypress]

DC unit wouldn't be maxxing out defenses

[bitter gate]

like, at all

[gleaming cypress]

it would be debuffing and maxxing out attack if anything

[bitter gate]

like, what would gatekeep him?

[gleaming cypress]

passive animations?

[bitter gate]

He has no gauge problems, he has imperv for moltres

[dawn plume]

moltres healing i think

cuz he really can only do damage w sync

[bitter gate]

the cycle, yeah

he can stack +10 crunches

but that's it I guess

[gleaming cypress]

for LG he needs 3/5 minimum for most solos probably

otherwise you run out of gauge and die

[dawn plume]

once he uses crunch his defenses go bye bye

might need to break out the calculator

[gleaming cypress]

also no statuses anywhere so cobalion/torn/cresselia and co. turn into stallfests

[dawn plume]

i think he'll be good but oh my god is he gimmicky

[shy notch]

Oh Hop is being paired with pincurchin. I was hyped for possibly getting him with corviknight

[dawn plume]

dc hop lowkey kinda good

guaranteed para (tornadus is COOKED), flinch, recover mpr and tm that gives regen also mpr

and unfortuitous 9 wait wtf hes crazy

[shy notch]

Loving the sound of that

[bitter gate]

we have a lot of dumb gauntlte units this batch no

Raihan is also stupid

checks torn AND moltres

and the other hard shit

he can even do 14, ngl

[dawn plume]

raihan first character to have 2 alts with 14 lol?

i havent looked at his kit much other than he only has dmax instead of gmax which is lol

[true tartan]

that'd be Steven imo

NY starts at 7th for some reason

SS2 Gio comes on 1st

[dawn plume]

oh wack

[bitter gate]

Also, Lana is

pretty funny no

[true tartan]

and the SA unlocks on 1st

[bitter gate]

not the best sustain but

[dawn plume]

oh raihan just has permanent sandstorm

ok

[shy notch]

SS Steven basically gets mind games 9 for free now which saves space on his grid

[dawn plume]

they just dont care anymore

[bitter gate]

A moment of silence for Anabel

[dawn plume]

they know sandstorm sucks cuz no damage multiplier so heres a unit that gives PERMANENT

[true tartan]

anawho?

[bitter gate]

and probably THE worst SA expansion

[true tartan]

[bitter gate]

I'll probably still expand her

[true tartan]

eh... maybe worse for the supports?

not in general imo

[bitter gate]

just so I can try the other solos out of spite?

like, I can do Terrakion, I'm fairly sure

not sure about the rest

Cress is probably impossible

like would it kill them to give her Team Fist Bump 9

she only got two passives two

I'm so sad

[dawn plume]

ok nvm i looked at raihans kit yeah hes 14/14

what in the world

this is pokemon masters ex in 2025

this is a SEASONAL

[shy notch]

The seasonals have gotten so close to 14/14 already. Time to seal the deal

[bitter gate]

atticus is

really bad

lol

like, not like horrendous but

[median swan]

me with wally i hate his so much

[dawn plume]

wha

[median swan]

such a nothing of a buff for him

[dawn plume]

i thought atticus looked good

[bitter gate]

When you compare him to raihan, gio and poppy

[dawn plume]

this is a very support heavy month

[bitter gate]

he's pretty damn bad

lol

[median swan]

atticus a must-pull coz of that banger theme

[chrome halo]

every Team Star boss is a must pull

because of their themes

[dawn plume]

i was gonna get eri from select

[hallow gull]

I want to swap his :" power his move when enemy confusion " for something else

this thing is useless

[bitter gate]

Like if you asked me what the worst unit of the four supports is this month

[median swan]

why are they buffing the fucking 50-bp move

[bitter gate]

I'd say Atticus

[bitter gate]

maybe it's a 90% buff

and suddenly his DPS isn't shit anymore

who knows

[median swan]

the master passive-lite at least makes him even more a fairy dc staple lmao

[bitter gate]

very few superawakenings are specifically LG orientated

I'd note

more for comp 3 v 3s, but that's just me

[dawn plume]

four supports?

[gleaming cypress]

most of them are a bit of sync CD

maybe some sporadic self buffing or debuffing

[dawn plume]

giovanni atticus raihan

[gleaming cypress]

field for strikers

[dawn plume]

lodge lana?? lol

[gleaming cypress]

they've balanced most of them well

[median swan]

but we got absolute bangers like anni raihan so it sucks that it all went downhill from that

[dawn plume]

surely hes not worse than lodge lana

[gleaming cypress]

you have ones like diantha SA (which i still feel like is an oversight to some degree) and lucas SA ( )

[hallow gull]

SSS SA

[bitter gate]

even then lodge lana

[hallow gull]

[gleaming cypress]

generally the SAs that give sustain are the most popular among whales in this mode

[bitter gate]

has double unforf

alongside burn and confusion

and both defenses and healing

she's the best lodge support so far imo

lol

she's pretty stupid lol

[gleaming cypress]

good luck with her potion MPR solos

[bitter gate]

yeah, you need TTT luck

• MPR

• unforf luck

No. 205 Larry & Dudunsparce (Male♂️) - Two-Segment Form
(🌅🌟) Superawakened Passive: The Exceptional Everyman
Turns the field of play’s zone into a Normal Zone the first time the user enters a battle each battle. Turns the field of play’s zone into a Normal Zone the first time the user’s sync move is used each battle. (A Normal Zone powers up Normal-type attacks.) Extends the duration of the Normal Zone when the zone turns into a Normal Zone while the user is on the field.
Superawakened Available: 1/1/2025 06:00:00

This is the thing I'm interested in

can it give Larry 14 I wonder

because that's a lot of extra damage for blitz

[dawn plume]

oh what the hell

random insane cookie

[median swan]

wAIT

I DIDN'T SEE

that's pretty good for him

[bitter gate]

oh, jesus, what the fuck?

[median swan]

shame he doesn't have second sand tho

[bitter gate]

that's big

he got rock zone, I guess

[median swan]

if cblue can get more solos with that rock zone on sync then maybe paulo can pull off the same lmao

[bitter gate]

where are the other cookies?

[dawn plume]

all old pair upgrades

anni n only new exr this month

strike as everyone expected

[bitter gate]

that valerie cookie is

interesting

it gives her an actual nuke to play with

kek

[dawn plume]

they sure do love giving 40% sync multipliers as personal lucky cookies

[dreamy warren]

gio has full clear potential imo

[pure zealot]

Sorry everyone, my alarm didn't work, I'm working on updating the website asap 🥲

[dreamy warren]

thx for your effort

2 mfs have 5/5 noe

*now

SS N and the new ss(alt.)

[pure zealot]

Gosh

[median swan]

take your timeee they aren't available until like a week anyway lol

[dawn plume]

brybry comes here first goat

[pure zealot]

And I sad a few days ago that they probably wouldn't do that

[dawn plume]

real poma lounge

[dreamy warren]

SS Gio is godly

he's broken in lg,hse,dc and ub

[pure zealot]

I mean I have to wait for the data to extract so I can come here as well haha

[bitter gate]

Gio is not a good DC unit because his animations are long AF

[dawn plume]

poma lounge is unusable after datamines

[bitter gate]

he's not bad there

[dawn plume]

dont blame u

[bitter gate]

but not good either

[worthy horizon]

stockpile is the point of interest and with guarded entry 3 it's down to a single animation to set max

[gleaming cypress]

too much hype (and doomposting) in poma lounge

yeah

and with that 1.1k hp too

he might outstall stuff like cob which requires status that he normally doesn't check

i mean arc steven did it

[median swan]

is it 1-gauge

[bitter gate]

doesn't he like

[dawn plume]

its 2 gauge but he has infliction freebie

[bitter gate]

instant +6 it

[gleaming cypress]

2 bars

[bitter gate]

or is it +3

[worthy horizon]

it's +3

[median swan]

oh with freebie then it'll be slower

[bitter gate]

Oh, so it's slower

kk

[dawn plume]

he also needs team sync regen

[worthy horizon]

oh yeah he's using freebie

[dawn plume]

its his only healing outside b move which is 2 use and eats up his defensive buffs so probably dont use that lol

[worthy horizon]

but in that case not team fast track

[gleaming cypress]

he is slow af

269 speed at max lvl

again we'll have to see when he actually drops

[dawn plume]

good but gimmicky

thats what he looks on paper

arc steven is just like. good

[median swan]

stockpile spam to victory is gonna be so funny

[dawn plume]

no real gimmicks he just has everything

[median swan]

if anyone's hitting the 14/14 summit tho it's gonna be that sandy snek

[bitter gate]

I think both of them can do it

Raihan probably has it easier

Poppy also can probably get like

12?

[median swan]

dc hop can get a bunch toooo

[dawn plume]

dc hop easily best lg dc unit

like by far

[bitter gate]

Will also try to get the triple

[dreamy warren]

stockpile with instant spam is the big thing(it's also big in lg)

[bitter gate]

on Lisia

[dawn plume]

he has so many gimmick checks

[median swan]

he's so funny literally give him every useful niche for lg

[bitter gate]

animations are still gonna be slow

because of passives

[bitter gate]

so you have a good amount of rivals to awaken

[quaint tartan]

I’m taking a moment of silence for sssteven

[bitter gate]

what are you gonna aim for first

[dreamy warren]

I don't think those will trigger if stock pile fails?

[bitter gate]

no

[dawn plume]

they should

[bitter gate]

it's when status move is used

[median swan]

yeah and all of them are so underwhelming sadness

[bitter gate]

so they should

[dawn plume]

its "uses a move" not "if move is successful"

[median swan]

best boy first ofc

[dreamy warren]

could Lear get anything new with his 10/5

@median swan wally's 10/5 passive calls him the green haired prince

[dawn plume]

idk what lears exact multipliers are

but his SA is just more damage

[median swan]

i KNOW literally the best thing about it

[median swan]

probably not tbh he needed more sustain not more damage

but then again the stat boost alone could help him

[gleaming cypress]

he is the oracle himself

[dawn plume]

i dont think lear can get anything new

[bitter gate]

also I also feel very sorry for Arven

but maybe the extra bulk gives him Torn?

[gleaming cypress]

fairy zone healing is close enough of a guess

[dreamy warren]

Wally got good 10/5 at least

[dawn plume]

the only ones left for him are moltres (cant debuff), regis (cant debuff), and torn (is torn)

hes already 10/14

[dreamy warren]

unfortunate

[dawn plume]

arven should get torn now

[median swan]

no he did not :<

[dawn plume]

the stats alone carry

doing more damage to get past bar 1 faster is also good

[median swan]

still 10/5ing him tho the best boy that he is

[dawn plume]

thats the worst part for him

[median swan]

dc9 on arven is definitely getting him that 14th

[worthy horizon]

only thing lear is getting from 10/5 on moltres/regirock/registeel is hs1 bc he can't unbuff them so it'd be enabling tornadus lmao

[dreamy warren]

didn't he get sync up on confused foes?

or did I misread

[median swan]

it's move up

[bitter gate]

now that all of my main invested units got completely horrid superawakenings

[dawn plume]

it could be 90%

[bitter gate]

who should I superawakening

Skyla for Moltres?
Lysandre for who knows what?
Rose for Azelf?
Anabel for Terrakion?

[dreamy warren]

oh

[dreamy warren]

Anabel got such a L

[bitter gate]

look at roxie's passives

and then look at Anabel's

:V