#Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)

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river cliff
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So yeah, nc blue loses some value on comps since his speed buffs are less relevant

chrome halo
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he still bring excellent values

raven crane
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WAIT LMAO SHE GETS +1 SMUN ON SING?

chrome halo
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sync multiplier, paralysis and defense debuffs

raven crane
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So Blue very much has a slot.

inner turret
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You have much more options than just blue tho

raven crane
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But that doesn't take away his value.

inner turret
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It kinda does

river cliff
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Yeah, but his slot is more flexible now which is great

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Especially for super sparring

inner turret
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While Melony it's pretty much just Blue or Chase, Lillie has almost anyone

raven crane
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I guess.

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Iono I don't care to debate it, guy is still nuts regardless.

river cliff
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Blue also only debuffs defenses by -2

raven crane
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It's gonna be funny to see some potential solos of Lillie sleep spamming to +10 SMUN and using the Buddy Move.

inner turret
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yeah lillie solos are gonna be funny

raven crane
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Latias ain't shit.

river cliff
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Sounds like a registeel clear to me

raven crane
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Bonk.

inner turret
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sounds like a everything clear except moltres and tornadus to me

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maybe not uxie

river cliff
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Well, I mean the +10 smun deleting a bar in particular says rip registeel

raven crane
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Well she also gimmick checks it, lol.

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Unfortuitous.

river cliff
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True

sturdy steeple
inner turret
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She doesn't make a great use of unfort imo, 4 gauge moonblast is eh

raven crane
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True, but could still bring good use (with luck.)

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Though I feel most stages won't need it.

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The option doesn't hurt!

sturdy steeple
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debuffs are always gonna be useful on sleepchain units

river cliff
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I've been debating how much I want to invest into her. Sprint candies are hard to come by

raven crane
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I think Lillie will have the gauge to make it work in most cases.

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She isn't Diantha with the gauge of a crippled oak tree.

sturdy steeple
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diantha has amazing gauge

raven crane
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Pre-Recharging Strike.

sturdy steeple
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diantha now has amazing gauge

raven crane
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Or just any Diantha below 4/5.

inner turret
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imagine 10/5 diantha when you can 10/5 palmer

sturdy steeple
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but it wasnt that bad for her, she still had double mgr + self speed buffs + good speed stat

inner turret
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imagine having diantha to begin with

raven crane
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Nah fuck her.

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Slow ass.

sturdy steeple
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lol

inner turret
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yeah the b word is censored here lol

raven crane
inner turret
raven crane
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I would definitely 10/10 her if the resource becomes more available.

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Totally not because my Fairy Strikes are actually dead in a ditch.

inner turret
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what's a fairy strike

river cliff
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I just want to see if she can duo latias with egg sylveon with her exr. Still waiting on some cake coins

raven crane
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At 10/10 or 5/5?

river cliff
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4/5

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I got decently close last time I tried before she got her exr

raven crane
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Cool cool, good luck.

river cliff
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I'm somewhat surprised she doesn't have a 10/5 solo

kind imp
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Diantha? She got Entei, raikou and bulu

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10/5 exr +10e

river cliff
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I mean Latias specifically

worthy horizon
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if she had a second debuff i could see it but with only one and no defense or healing (beyond 20%) even with type advantage and everything else seems a bit too rough idk

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also i have tried with ss lysandre who does have two debuffs and it's still not very close as with all the remaining non-azelf stuff

dawn plume
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i think diantha does too much damage to latias bar 2

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so it gets to half bar immediately

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and then +6 eva and +4 def and its unwinnable

river cliff
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Yeah that definitely needs to be skipped

kind imp
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Her tm charges gauge as mega

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And can also grid propulsion 9 on it

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So you could damage control with mprs if needed

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So I guess it's more the single debuff thing when you don't have a lot of time to proc dc2/mg2

true tartan
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will he take the bird?

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and can someone lower Latios lol

vital ibex
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"just flinch lol"

vital ibex
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cuz bro needs speed and healing and can only LS one or the other

sturdy steeple
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most expensive soloer ever

true tartan
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2/5 grants him healing... so that's a thing for lowering Latios if anyone ever try lol

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that could possibly lower Latios and Raikou?

vital ibex
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i could candy him

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i have 2 strike candies

true tartan
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but you like him enough for that? there's no pressure lol

vital ibex
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good question WEEZing

true tartan
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not like there's any rush to lower the solo haha

vital ibex
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i do darkmax so i'd want to invest in him eventually

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but i have other types i need to improve a lil like ground

tender horizon
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Giacomo crazy

true tartan
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then don't do it, just wait for someone to have a 2-3 somewhere lol

tender horizon
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We need a 15th LA that is so ditficult

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It should Arceus with 18 bars of 18 type weaknesses and 18 gimmicks

vital ibex
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i wouldve been candied him to 3/5 by now if it was his sweetspot

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hate that haymaker is locked behind 5/5

true tartan
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yup

vital ibex
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like these are all my strike candy options

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only ones i really want to candy are giacomo, adaman and piers, maybe silver but my rock roster is already pretty stacked so i dont think i need it

tender horizon
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Ofc u want to candy

Santa Leon

vital ibex
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not with that old ass grid i dont

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he's about the same unit he is at 3/5 that he is at 1/5

sturdy steeple
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HILDA

vital ibex
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i have arc leon tho!

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and mix blue

lost juniper
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NC Silver or SS Hilda are the best choices

inner turret
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I think long term giacomo and silver might be the best ?

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but giacomo really wants HIGH investment so it's not that worth, so I'd say silver

vital ibex
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but my rock team rn is like, usum elio selene and paulo/dc nemona (interchangeable)

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and that alone melts most content

raven crane
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Then why are you asking in LG chat? (I don't mean for that to come off as hostile.)

vital ibex
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i did not ask for who i should candy

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i just showed my options lol

raven crane
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Okie.

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(SC Dadaman.)

vital ibex
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real

heavy sinew
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Halfway through the scout points for adaman and I still don't have him

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What is this guy

rocky oasis
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i had to pity him

dawn plume
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same lol

bitter gate
true tartan
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did he take moltres?

bitter gate
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Someone can go ask snow to do it, idk

true tartan
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ah

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your reply was on my comment of that lol

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thought he did it

bitter gate
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When I said I knew he could do it I meant more so I knew he could do 13

true tartan
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many units are getting 10 or higher nowadays...

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92 is the count of 10 or more solos

rocky oasis
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can he flinch

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idk bc i dont have him

true tartan
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yup

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iron head

rocky oasis
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nice

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hows his gauge

true tartan
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not so good lol

bitter gate
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yeah, he has to run FT or something

hollow ether
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Have tried testing any solo with 3/5 Giacomo, it suck, gauge problem & skill issue 😅

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Manage went to 3rd bar for Bulu, but still gauge problem & die by wood hammer

true tartan
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hmmm, do Latios if anything haha

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for Bulu, you should save your b move, wait for bulu to use a move

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change bars and nuke it

hollow ether
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TM animation was kinda slow and Bulu hit me first

hollow ether
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Man, so close 😂

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My finger did not fast clicking 🤣

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Possible with +9 Sync Move Up to end with that HP?

hollow ether
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Finally done Giacomo 3/5

worthy horizon
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gg

hollow ether
hollow ether
dawn plume
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v bede has no healing wtf

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does he get moltres

raven crane
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I saw that lol.

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Super funny.

dawn plume
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he's obviously made for dc

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so lg utility just isnt there

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he can remove moltres's weather but he can't flinch and he can't heal

raven crane
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I mean ya say that, then Hop and Marnie exist.

dawn plume
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dunno if he can shred fast enough

worthy horizon
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he'll need a real tank but he could still clear within 2 sync cycles potentially

raven crane
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Bede just the odd one out in that regard.

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If there's a 45% DR gear, there's a way.

worthy horizon
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forgot he has max move too

dawn plume
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yeah max 4 rain uses

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weather isnt an issue

shy sinew
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they drop on tuesday right, not tomorrow?

worthy horizon
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yea

dawn plume
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yeah i was just going through their kits now

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since monday is monday

raven crane
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Shocker.

heavy sinew
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i know

raven crane
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I thought it was Thursday.

bright brook
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wait are they available yet

inner turret
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tomorrow

bright brook
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3/10 milo solo done

bright brook
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Actually 5 now.

bitter gate
bright brook
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Me

sturdy steeple
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2199 solos rn

true tartan
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maybe 2200 but we just don't know

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116 solos from SA tho

kind imp
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使用バディーズ:セイボリー&ヤドキング / Avery & Slowking
育成状況:技5+5/150/EX+R/+10E
挑戦エリア:VS ファイヤー3(VERY HARD)
ポテンシャル:天気変化時P技B技威力↑3 / Weathered Warrior 3

▶ Play video
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pretty nice solo

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didn't expect it wouldn't need the second hail

dawn plume
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oh

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he’s back to tying with klara lol

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mucho circle mprs

inner turret
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I need my 10/5 palmer so bad so I can solo moltres and terrakion with it

shy notch
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Love how Klara and Avery both have 13/14 when they were originally considered not that good for LG. Granted, the SA does help

true tartan
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Klara seemed more LG oriented than Avery imo

sturdy steeple
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theyve always both been good for lg and had the tools, some just more expensive than others like averys offensive debuffs being at 4/5

dawn plume
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klara only needs SA for regirock and even then its just 6/5 for stats

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unless she somehow gets moltres with 10/5…

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that’d certainly be something

true tartan
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oh, I meant solo-wise of course lol

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in general, they both indeed are very good LG units

hollow ether
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So close, because the gauge still nott fast enough

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Possible can lowered to 3/5 EXR for Raikou

hallow gull
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Got debuff SpA so much Volo dealt negative dmg MinaSmile

sturdy steeple
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bonk

loud shell
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which of the three galar varieties is looking the best for gauntlet?

worthy horizon
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not bede

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no defensive utility there

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hop has grassy terrain/cushion, marnie has healing sun/defensive circle

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everything is gaugeless under wtz

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i'd lean toward marnie with her support exr and defense/spdef debuffs

lost juniper
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All of them should be able to solo at least the easy 3 or 4

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Meaning Latios, Bulu, Entei and Raikou

worthy horizon
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bede should burst down entei but not getting bulu with that grass weak

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still gets latios, maybe raikou and moltres

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potential for others too

lost juniper
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Moltres is a big if but maybe. Also Bulu should be doable for Bede if he nukes Bar 3 fast. Bar 1 only has energy ball once before half and Bulu is slow so Bede could ramp moves quickly

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I wouldn't count it out just yet

worthy horizon
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bar 3 wouldn't be the concern, he's perfectly capable of tearing it down before wood hammer

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crit seed bomb alone would be pretty devastating

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not impossible yet but no high hopes

median swan
bitter gate
bright brook
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And azelf and coba

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I think anything beyond the easy 5 requires SA..

bitter gate
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You don't think 4/5 EX is enough?

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I think it's more MPR gaming for those

bright brook
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Well. It's also about milo's grid being expensive as hell.

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To fight latias you need to pick up def crush, and that'd mean you have to take off some healing.

bitter gate
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Definitely, but I don't think the SA helps beyond the flat stats does it

bright brook
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The stat boosts are huge tho

bitter gate
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Thus mpr gaming

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They are yes, for more comfortable stomachs

bright brook
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But yea the passives are underwhelming

bitter gate
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I just wonder if it's really beyond him to do latias or cob

bright brook
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Ive actually tried against azelf, and bar 1 onlu requires like 5-6 mini pots

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More stats equal less potion

bitter gate
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Only

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Lol

bright brook
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Making the solo a lot more feasible

shy sinew
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So I am now the proud owner of a 1/5 Klara, how good is she if I just don't invest in her for gauntlet? I'm very limited on tech upgrade resources

bitter gate
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I felt that Azelf would be the hardest of the 3

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And either Lati or Cob would be the easiest

bright brook
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You think so?

bitter gate
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Though I guess you've tried and know better

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Yea

bright brook
bitter gate
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Azelf has the most kill pressure

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Latias and Cob have some small windows

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Also should I do the Skyla cob solo

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But it requires +10 E

bright brook
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Base skyla?

bitter gate
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Yes

bright brook
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Oof.

shy sinew
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brute force with potions?

bitter gate
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I already did it with Phoebe

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And Anabel

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I can probably do it again

bright brook
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Go for it. But i can not guarantee your sanity

bitter gate
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You talk like I was ever sane to begin with

bright brook
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I think the investments isnt that bad.

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I'd invest in her

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Like for LG overall

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Being able to pick up both staggering is great

bitter gate
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She's also my no 2 waifu so

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I guess why not

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Just wondering if i need all my orbs for anything

worthy horizon
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sounds like you run low often

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and +8 would be enough to grab crucial tiles?

bitter gate
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Maybe that's why?

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Idk

bitter gate
worthy horizon
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i'm about to overflow soon lol

bitter gate
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You only want fanfare unbending pots and double stagg

worthy horizon
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yeah thought so

bitter gate
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How many units do you not have gridded

worthy horizon
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i overcap almost nothing

bitter gate
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But you also grid 1/5s you rarely/don't use on their base grids?

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I overcap a lot of things

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So that's probably why

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On top of the new stuff

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I have about 12 units with +10E

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And some with a bit lower, +8/6

worthy horizon
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i have 4 at +10e

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both lysandres, ss hilbert, and bp surge lol

chrome halo
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I have 5 +10e aka all 5/5 i have lol

dawn plume
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i rarely overcap too

worthy horizon
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i never overcap until i run into something specific that hard requires it

dawn plume
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i have like 880k rn

chrome halo
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Arven, Penny, Redlax, SS Leaf, Victor

dawn plume
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i just +6d rose for dc cuz might as well or i'll cap

bitter gate
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Let's see

kind imp
shy sinew
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I don't want to count my +10es

chrome halo
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I think half of my roster has at least +2e

dawn plume
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thats wild lmao

worthy horizon
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i'm at 894k, 60k from super sparring very soon and battle rally orbs will put me over limit

bitter gate
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Anabel/Rose/Lysandre/Anni Skyla/Cynthia/SS Wally/Phoebe/Lisia off the top of my head

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My Lance is +10 E too I think, yea

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Yes two of my base units are +10 E and I think there's another one

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Oyea, Morty Shauntal

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Spooky ghosts

worthy horizon
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i do have a fair amount of +2e on random things too but not enough to outpace orb gain

rocky oasis
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i have a +10 eve

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and a +10 syca

kind imp
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I have a +10 lyra

rocky oasis
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and a +8 will

dawn plume
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i have +4 on will lol

rocky oasis
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Lots of QOL improvementa

dawn plume
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+8 sycamore

rocky oasis
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extra energy on syca is kinda self explanatory i guess

bitter gate
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My Larry, fall Shauntal, Palmer, ss blue are +8

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My fall Phoebe, ny Clair, v Lorelei and a good amount of others are +6 too

worthy horizon
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my stuff is mostly concentrated on +2 but there's some of the others as well

rocky oasis
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ohbyeah i have +10 may

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for some reason her grid costs are really awkward

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probably gonna get dropping some on brendan too

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that leaf storm acc gets me every time

worthy horizon
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lodge skyla +8, kabu +6, f phoebe +6, ss kris +4 and i think that's it lol

bitter gate
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Oyea my Kabu is +6 too

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Lol

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As is my SS Kris lol

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That explains why our orb gap is that big

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I've been dumb enough to get the 50k deal sporadically

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Never again

worthy horizon
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i don't think i'm overly stingy with spending but running into cap and comparing to other people makes it look different

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but that's how i get by as f2p

rocky oasis
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uh i have a lot at +6

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steven elesa ssgrims bea ncbianca annimay sslyra sssteven sscyrus sstred ncrosa nydawn ssdiantha bpfalkner vkris ssleaf jasmine elio ssacynthia ssbren burghpi sskris

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and that it i think

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and geeta + archer + evictor + dc tierno

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usually +6 is enough to grab some minor QOL solo options

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like MH1 on potion or smth

chrome halo
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I wish i could filter for overcapped pairs

dawn plume
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i have a lot of my 3/5 limiteds at +6 yeah

worthy horizon
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yeah they're hard to look for

dawn plume
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like elaine or ss kris

misty gorge
dawn plume
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that is not happening LOL

chrome halo
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Bar 1 Bulu is hell to farm sync buffs

worthy horizon
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ye bp cheryl's output is almost nothing and bulu will punish that hard

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latios gives tons of time to farm and ramp up

dawn plume
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she exists to duo stuff with barry

worthy horizon
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pretty much

dawn plume
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i think i used her for one of the subway missions actually

river cliff
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My +10e pairs are whitney, tate, surge, jasmine, eve, rachel, lillie, cynthia, and ss misty, though I do have a lot of random pairs hovering between 2-6

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Lotta pairs at the max I can do with their current move level

rocky oasis
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thinking of dropping some on sawyer to make his grid less awkward

river cliff
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I gave him 4 extra energy, it helps a lot

rocky oasis
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what grid

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he is really annoying to use

river cliff
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Lotta different ways you can build it but this one is a good general purpose grid

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Looking at it more you get good mileage out of +6 as well

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He could really use the double mgr

sturdy steeple
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i gave him +2 just for the extra gauge

river cliff
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So many helpful nodes, not nearly enough energy for all of them

rocky oasis
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at least support ex makes sync burst way better

river cliff
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Actually I think this grid was the main reason I brought him to +4

rocky oasis
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not sure why he has sync node

river cliff
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It's a less expensive path to healthy healing

rocky oasis
river cliff
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6 energy the other way

rocky oasis
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only less expensive if youre going for agg or mgr

river cliff
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Actually yeah you right

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I think this was what I was originally thinking, as I had a comp where I didn't need sync burst

brisk sapphire
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The Galar Variety Tiered is 10k. I thought it would be 21k

true tartan
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varieties are like that iirc

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or well, not that deep?

brisk sapphire
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Maybe I was thinking seasonals/SC

shy notch
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The variety guaranteed ticket scout is random right?

brisk sapphire
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Yes

shy notch
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Ah well, probably better to do dailies for now

bright brook
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Love the damage rush clears.

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"We're gonna be okay, you can rest now"

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Dude was cool for 1 second

karmic willow
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Who the hell smoked here

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Like

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Giving a physical attacker smun

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Huh?

worthy horizon
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there's pmun in the top right corner anyway and the tm can target anyone on the team

karmic willow
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Yeah but

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It's so funny

worthy horizon
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oh ok uh haha

raven crane
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Hence why she also buffs PMUN for the team on her trainer move.

dawn plume
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yeah marnies meant to be the mixed support while hop does physical damage and bede does special damage

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their circles represent that too

sturdy steeple
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And their roles

dawn plume
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no marnie solos?

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she’s the only one with a healing passive on grid

sturdy steeple
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needs 2/5 tho

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gotta get lucky.....

dawn plume
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shes also stuck at +4 atk but has furious brawn on grid

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unfortunate

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not hitting as hard as the other two… which i guess is fine if they released arc leon in the same month lol

sturdy steeple
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lol i didnt notice that why did they do that

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i guess also to buff acc but like cmon

shy notch
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She kind of makes up for it with sunny hit def down at 3/5

sturdy steeple
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and having support role

bright brook
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Power reserves 2 turns out to be the optimal LS for him

sturdy steeple
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😭frozen

dawn plume
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how is cs2 not just better 😭

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is it damage control?

bright brook
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ye

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if i do too much i'd proc half bar 1 early

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giving me one less free turn so i wouldnt be able to reach sync before bulu did

dawn plume
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thats wild

bright brook
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also by proccing half bar i force bulu to queue energy ball right away that not only hits me for super effective damage, but also heals itself, and my sync wont be able to bar skip

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i figured that out when i was attempting a run with stoic 2, ended up missing out on the KO at the end, so power reserves 2 would be my way out to both ensure damage control and provide enough damage for the bar 3 rush

true tartan
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3/5 too?

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or still at 1/2

bright brook
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3/5 Exr

true tartan
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nice

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fun to see not so common skills being used lol

bright brook
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Theres actually a supreme entry one on the table

sturdy steeple
shy notch
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Skill gear moment

true tartan
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supreme for?

bright brook
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Bar 2 skip

lost juniper
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The bird I guess?

true tartan
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problem is just surviving bar 1 haha...

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if it is the bird

bright brook
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I got to bar 3 tho but ran out of pots.

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You'd need like a crazy amount

true tartan
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pots?

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ah, mix leaf

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potion solos

lost juniper
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Mix Leaf on Moltres should be doable

true tartan
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sucks that Sabrina units are also like that...

lost juniper
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Doesn't NY Sabrina has recup though?

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It's a lot better than potions

true tartan
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she has TM MPR

shy notch
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I think her issue is aggravation 4 making it take longer to get to sync

true tartan
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that also heals haha...

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yup, aggravation holds her back a lot to rush syncs

bright brook
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btw

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I didn't think he'd solo bulu, but the raikou solo was so short that the video turned into a short, so i attempted bulu to see if i could add it to make the video longer, and got it.

dawn plume
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classic youtube

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no sustain tools so idk if he can get moltres :/

bright brook
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no way

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def+spdef buffs then maybe

true tartan
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fastest terrakion clear? lol

dawn plume
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figured this would be doable if someone bothered to 10/5 dexio

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but like who would do that

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(this guy)

true tartan
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yeah lol

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first solo that ends as pre-sync (4 moves) and that the enemy DOESN'T use ANY move without relying in move cancel

shy notch
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Funniest part is squeezing a whole solo within debut psychic terrain

river cliff
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Clears like this make me wonder if there's a reason we haven't had a gauntlet since sa was added lol

sturdy steeple
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Don't overthink it

pearl pawn
stuck mantle
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I saw on reditt long time ago this

sturdy steeple
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show it then

stuck mantle
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Not sure if some one have extra energy or not

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Lol no vid just pick was whit terrain

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So must have super for it

dawn plume
#

LMAO i just watched the clear

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“have u considered dying”

stuck mantle
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Now find this post lol on reddit🤣 was tell back then about it but nobody was interested. So will check if find it post

true tartan
#

if you do a claim, back it up with evidence

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insteand of just saying random stuff

kind imp
# pearl pawn This game is not real

Some others:
SS may cobalion solo uses flying guard for aerial ace, similarly Lear uses dark guard on bulu for brutal swing
A lot of special attackers use defense crush on latias bc it often does more damage since latias buffs defense more than sp.defense
and there's four moltres solos that use ww3 to take advantage of moltres' own sun

true tartan
#

Sonia and P Victor also use Fighting Guard vs Cobalion

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Iono and P Victor (again) use Normal Guard for Cress, and so on

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there is the "secret" guard you use for Terrakion (Ground) too lol

dawn plume
#

well ww3 is a common lucky skill in general lol

lost juniper
#

Latios lowered to 1/5 EX

raven crane
#

Get the birb Bede, I bel-ede in you.

shy sinew
#

any chance that any of those 1/5s don't need ex 👀

inner turret
#

hop bulu

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i believe gilad reduced it to 1/5 ex

lost juniper
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Working on it

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But I don't think you can go lower than EX

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That circle is actually important

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Will be glad to be proven wrong TabithaHehe

inner turret
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grassy terrain dr 45%

lost juniper
shy sinew
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yeah I don't have the stats for it and don't really want to commit powerups yet, 0/20 is a struggle to make it to your first sync

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I'll instead try on super sparring for once ig

lost juniper
#

This is doable but I need more grassy terrain dr

tender horizon
raven crane
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Well, his specifically.

sturdy steeple
#

his still is extremely meh

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just good for this specific instance

raven crane
#

I still retract what I said.

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If it enables a solo, that effortlessly, good enough in my book.

sturdy steeple
#

still gotta instaqueue the moves but yeah

raven crane
#

Details details.

true tartan
#

only need to insta queue 1, but that one is key

sturdy steeple
#

mhm

pearl beacon
shy sinew
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if it's not I'd be concerned

bright brook
#

We literally have to start watching solos on yt short.

brisk sapphire
#

I'm extending mine SophoKEK

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Let people see my pokemon center if they want

bitter gate
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Lmao

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Was this faster than Lysandre v Entei?

shy sinew
#

yes

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dexio kills terrakion in the same number of actions ss lysandre beats entei bar 1 only

worthy horizon
#

looks like 13 seconds faster

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ss lysandre suffers less delay from not using b move and dealing with its effects but still slower

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and needs to use 2 tms

bitter gate
#

yeah which is an animation diff i feel

#

but is this like, legit the fastest solo?

heavy sinew
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looks like it

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around 30 seconds not slowed down

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crazy

brisk sapphire
#

That's the funniest solo I've seen SophoKEK

kind imp
#

That's prob the fastest optimal solo

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But maybe if you go out of your way to prioritize speed over consistency

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On some random max investment

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There could be some faster solo

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Bc idt this is a niche that's been attempted to be optimized
Or maybe coincidentally the current way for Dexio to solo terrakion is also the optimal way to do the fastest solo

worthy horizon
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can't imagine what else would be viable to compete

bitter gate
#

Still need to do the Skyla solo soon

pearl beacon
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Having the same weakness each bar LarryDead
But damn the bar1 insta oneshoot totally caught me off guard

bitter gate
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say what you want about dexio but

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he hurts

rocky oasis
#

skyla solo?

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moltres?

bitter gate
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vs Cob

rocky oasis
#

oh

bitter gate
#

base Skyla

rocky oasis
#

people have been talking about anni skyla 30% flinching moltres to death lol

bitter gate
#

Anni Skyla needs 10 for Moltres, I think

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even then luri hasn't tried it despite having her fsr

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it requires too much precision

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anni May did it but Anni May also hits way harder and doesn't have to click TMs so

rocky oasis
#

and the blessing of a chaos god

bitter gate
#

Skyla is slower but also has smaller safeguards

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I think it's doable

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and I can technically 10/5 her now but

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Anabel comes first

rocky oasis
#

i dont think base skyla touches cobalion

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not before running out of potions

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stone edges hurt

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shes probably got better odds of idk

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soloing regirock w/ sharp entry or registeel w/ def crush

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and even then its probably impossible

bitter gate
#

Nah, I think cob is her most realistic solo avenue

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Regirock just overwhelms her

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Registeel will also just kill her with Hyper Beam

#

I've already done Cob with Anabel and Fall Phoebe

rocky oasis
#

gl

bitter gate
#

granted Fall Phoebe was also the hardest solo I've ever done

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because 12+ pots

rocky oasis
#

i dont even wanna know how many staggering procs or potions you need

bitter gate
#

and 3+ TM MPRs but

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gl

rocky oasis
#

can she get raikou

bitter gate
#

on the flip side, Skyla only wants MPR on pots, since unbending/vigilance gives safety

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Hmm, I could try that too?

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but depends on my time

raven crane
bright brook
#

40% tho

bitter gate
#

44%

bitter gate
#

She should be able to nearly/clean kill bar 1 with zone up, but ideally you want to control the damage such that you enter bar 2 with zone up and oneshot it with sync

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bar 3 is easier to deal with than bar 2 because she's running either FG or stoic

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so you can avoid the burn tilt

bright brook
#

wait how is it 44%. I thought 2+1 = 3

raven crane
#

Separate procs.

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A 30% roll and a 20% roll. 'Least that's how I've always looked at it.

bright brook
#

yea certain passive stacks, i didnt know this one counts as seperate.

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but if it were then ye 44%

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which isnt bad at all, more than jacq

rocky oasis
#

i think im fine w/ her 3/5

#

the whales can torture themselves

raven crane
#

Close.

rocky oasis
#

how

#

who have you sacrificed for this power

raven crane
#

Some candies and my minor stockpile off SA candies.

#

Needing a Flying Wish MPR is ick.

dawn plume
#

wait she lived 👀 not over

raven crane
#

No it was.

#

Sadly.

dawn plume
raven crane
#

Would be great if that Sync was closer to KOing.

dawn plume
#

what grid is that using

raven crane
#

Something like this, but I realize I don't need the Air Cutter MGR, but I also need a Flying Wish MPR (or a whole Sync cycles worth of flinches.)

#

So I changed it for future attempts.

dawn plume
#

too bad that extension tile is in an awful spot

raven crane
#

Yeap.

dawn plume
#

you might need the mgr9 tbh

raven crane
dawn plume
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for a guaranteed passive proc

#

so you can flinch chain

chrome halo
#

Is her gauge good without mgr

#

Also this yeah

raven crane
#

Iono been managing fine.

raven crane
dawn plume
#

what does iono have to do with-oh you meant you dont know ok

raven crane
#

Yeah there you go.

brisk sapphire
#

You are so close 👀

raven crane
#

If I do need the Air Cutter MGR then that will be rough for bar 3.

rocky oasis
raven crane
#

Imp.

rocky oasis
#

huh didnt notice

#

man i should sleep

#

red bull about to crash i think

bitter gate
#

For when I eventually candy her

#

Keep going

raven crane
#

I plan to.

#

Just not tonight.

#

11:09 PM and I got work in the morning.

rocky oasis
#

gn

raven crane
#

I should be telling you that Mr. or Ms. Red Bull Crash.

rocky oasis
#

gotta finish up a group project and then pass out

raven crane
#

Pass out well!

kind imp
# raven crane

maybe +25 sync over +5 sp./defense or +5 speed/sp.atk?

bitter gate
#

the hardest part is just bar 1, really

#

get past bar 1, and I think the rest of it falls into place

#

I wish she had innate vigilance so I can run DC or something

true tartan
#

yep

#

each bar of cobalion can be a run killer lol

#

Poison, debuff defenses to death, flinches, sacred sword

kind imp
#

and 50% crits from stone edges and bar 3.5

bitter gate
#

so no worries there

#

it's really just the first bar RNG check

#

followed by Pot check

#

But yeah, I'll keep trying for a while

#

idt bar 2/3 are too worrisome for Skyla

true tartan
bitter gate
#

I'm pretty sure after bar 1 is passed and assuming I'm not completely donezo with pot luck

#

I can do it

#

it's just bar 1 that's a massive pain in the ass

#

for reference, she needs I think 16 sync buffs

#

before bar 1 is gone

true tartan
#

potion check runs... how fun...

#

really, reminds me of my attempts of Bellelba vs Latias

bitter gate
#

potion check + poison dodge

true tartan
#

she can 100% do it, but is potion check

bitter gate
#

also makes me appreciate anabel a lot lol

#

she's actually not that RNG reliant all things considered

true tartan
#

just look at Steven

#

he "nopes" many things lol

bitter gate
#

yeah this is gonna take a while

#

I get no more than 2 MPRs an average game lol

#

my longest was like 7 MPRs

#

not enough

bitter gate
#

Sigh

#

I get at least 3 MPRs lol

#

I hate this so much

#

I need about 7 to 8

#

But can't even give me half

tender horizon
bitter gate
#

3 crits in a row

#

And no pot mprs

#

Zzz

true tartan
#

potion mpr fun

worthy horizon
#

if anyone's curious about v marnie vs moltres she can get past first half bar lol

true tartan
#

lol

bitter gate
#

I'm surprised it's even in contention lll

worthy horizon
#

never hurts to throw in at least a few attempts

#

and people were thinking arc leon vs moltres stood a chance

#

i don't think she has efficient duos that would warrant placing her there instead of anywhere else

#

in a gauntlet setting

#

well...

#

with support wigglytuff she at least gets out of bar 1

#

but i ate a crit heat wave right after

lost juniper
worthy horizon
#

yeah

raven crane
kind imp
#

Ah

worthy horizon
#

thinking reason gauntlet was shafted was to have a dc focused month to sell arc leon

#

but idk have they coexisted within the same month

#

still might be that anyway

#

also holiday lillie had to be in time for the holiday

#

feb most likely next gauntlet if they aren't pushing it together with hs on the same month

river cliff
#

That's such a long time with no gauntlet if that's the case

#

It'd be interesting if they were to somehow rework it during its downtime

blissful rose
#

If DC event doesn't happen next month, I could see gauntlet returning with the shortened 2 weeks duration given HS event is confirmed.
If not, then tough luck I guess.

worthy horizon
#

yeah that would make it more of a possibility

#

but by feb they should be out of visible reasons to piss off people who want deluxe cookies

river cliff
#

I could sure use some silver cookies

shy notch
#

Waiting to get status immunity here

#

And head start / adrenaline for DC purposes

raven crane
#

HuTaoDead3 First time that's happened there.

#

Oh I didn't get Flying Wish MPR, basically dead run anyway.

sturdy steeple
#

pain

inner turret
#

I thought that was og skyla for a sec I freaked out lol

raven crane
#

Improved the grid.

#

Let's hope it works111

raven crane
inner turret
#

lol

raven crane
#

🤞

shy notch
#

You can drop unfort 9

raven crane
#

It's harder without it.

#

There's a reason I gridded it.

shy notch
#

Oh is it for the passive to queue your moves?

raven crane
#

Mhm.

#

Air Cutter costs too much energy.

#

Unfortuitous is the only way I can guarantee it.

sturdy steeple
#

do you absolutely need the mpr on flying wish

raven crane
#

No, but you'd need a whole Sync cycle of flinches somewhere else in the run.

sturdy steeple
#

checks out

raven crane
#

So I'll just take the Flying Wish MPR.

true tartan
#

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▶ Play video
#

for those who doubted him I suppose

#

(including myself)

raven crane
#

KING.

#

I knew he could do it.

true tartan
#

I tried, that's why I doubted haha

sturdy steeple
#

yay

true tartan
#

and a bit of "trashtalk"

#

imagine needing Potions MinaBreak

sturdy steeple
#

dissing your girl like that

true tartan
#

I regret nothing

#

runs away

sturdy steeple
raven crane
#

Poor Sabby.

shy notch
#

First Moltres solo with no interference or healing? BarryPogChamp

true tartan
#

as much as I like Sabrina, I dislike doing her solos lol

#

but gotta do what's needed to be done

dawn plume
dawn plume
heavy sinew
brisk sapphire
#

Just have better RNG

dawn plume
#

any chance lodge arven could get other solos

#

im down to invest in him

sturdy steeple
#

rock of the regi variant but its difficult so good luck

chrome halo
#

I wish he got Naclstack instead

#

Funni minecraft blocks

rocky oasis
#

would be interesting to see how salt cure worked

bitter gate
#

It's just trap no

dawn plume
#

well you can switch if salt cured

chrome halo
#

It also has funny interaction with Water and Steel types

#

I think it would be a B Move that lowers Water and Steel rebuffs

karmic willow
#

Rocc

lost juniper
#

Lowered Raikou to 1/5 EX R

dawn plume
#

oh word

dawn plume
#

i feel like his atk will just plummet

#

is vigilance or headstrong more important lol

sturdy steeple
#

Vigil

#

The biggest problems are hyper beam & flinches

dawn plume
#

recover mpr simulator then

#

joy

bright brook
#

Hop solos + bede solos is still less than marnie solos

sturdy steeple
#

lets go girl

true tartan
#

I've seen a possibility for another one on Bede

lost juniper
dawn plume
#

i know everyone is talking about her for dc but this tile that h lillie has seems REALLY funny for lg...

inner turret
#

Yes lol

#

That's her main tool to take Registeel and Regirock down

dawn plume
#

tbh it might let her get cobalion

#

well she might not need it for cobalion actually

#

will need to see how fast she can damage rush it

rocky oasis
#

i mean if tl shauna and n can get coba

dawn plume
#

tech ex though, but lillie's dps especially with that passive should make up for not having it

true tartan
#

yup

#

she'll just burst bars lol

sturdy steeple
dawn plume
#

😭

lost juniper
#

What healing does to a mf

raven crane
#

The textbook God starter run to fail a crucial Sync crit.

bright brook
#

Half of arc leon's solos are 5/5 EXR too 😭

shy sinew
#

you mean arc (wha)leon

wise raven
#

variety > arc IrisDerp

true tartan
#

alright, added the base lines for the new units

chrome halo
#

Can she join club 12?

#

Holillie i meant

#

Torn and Moltres are already no no to her

#

Is Uxie a legitimate wall to overcome RosaOhGodOhFuck

dawn plume
#

she has gobsmack on grid she’ll be fiiiine

#

surely

#

trying lodge arven on regirock i got to bar 3 with no recover mprs, if i can get even 1 (ideally 2) this is doable… but gotta pray for no flinches always

#

i can give it some more tries later

#

this is def more reasonable than lodge volo on latios lmfao

true tartan
#

guess 2222 solos will happen tonight

sturdy steeple
#

lillie gaming

copper helm
#

So I pulled new Primarina
Any solo for 3/5 exr?

true tartan
#

haha... you can bet Quaggles is going to do all what she can do lol

true tartan
sturdy steeple
bitter gate
#

Lol

#

Just uxie left I guess

sturdy steeple
#

added to the main doc <3

#

good job quaggles naohappy

dreamy warren
#

any v marnie solos on cob yet

worthy horizon
#

yea it's there

bright brook
#

Yea, 2/5 EX

dreamy warren
#

any other solos yet? this happened #gacha-and-flex message

so was wondering if she had a lot of lg value

median swan
#

she has as many solos as arc leon right now

sturdy steeple
#

shes got one more over him

median swan
#

oh she's at 11?

#

queen

sturdy steeple
median swan
#

oh doom was talking about vmarnie

sturdy steeple
#

oh lol my bad

#

the current min investment solos have been lowered real well for vmarnie

#

lowering em more would be difficult and youd need more investment

#

and attempting latias is also very hard and youd need high investment

dreamy warren
#

If only she had defensive buffs

#

would be a lg monster I'd reckon

copper helm
#

So Uxie, Torn and that annoying bird left then

lost juniper
#

She ain't getting Tornadus or Moltres

raven crane
#

If we're being fair.

dreamy warren
raven crane
#

They told ya haha.

#

And solos aside she's got good utility for Latias to do duo's.

bitter gate
#

I wonder if Bugsy will match her

#

Part of me feels he won't, idk why lol

chrome halo
#

Does his b move being limited to bug zone hinder him badly?

bitter gate
#

it's not limited to zone, it's limited to circle, of which he only has three rounds without extension

#

And it has a really long animation

#

he does have an excellent TM, but most of his clears will be highly RNG

#

though some will be simple enough

bitter gate
#

Hop and Bede are more comp-specific

pliant glen
#

I think Holiday Lillie can get Latios, Entei, Azelf and Bulu at 1/5

bright brook
#

nope, tried

#

1/5 EXR then maybe, but def not 1/5

#

but i say that because i think her high damage will make quick work of them. She def doesnt have what it takes to maintain a chain at 1/5, like not enough gauge or passives that proc every turn, and the fact that she has to run troublemaker 1 to land sing 90% of the time as well

sturdy steeple
#

big day for the solo document, finally finished writing all the difficulties & requirements/advice columns for all over two thousand solos...

dawn plume
#

what no gauntlet december does to your productivity

sturdy steeple
#

ive been slowly chipping away at this all year inbetween LG months but yeah no LG this month really motivated me to finish this big update by the end of the year

dawn plume
#

bede just makin sure i don’t fit in…

#

also, reguricjL

sturdy steeple
#

lol

#

i am so good at spelling

#

now i can finally work on other updates ive wanted to add to the doc naohappy

rocky oasis
#

lol bede sitting pretty on his own

dawn plume
#

apparently that run needed 2 10% confusion procs MonkaScottie

worthy horizon
#

could be not bad depending on how many chances you get for that and if other rng factors are low enough

#

haven't seen

rocky oasis
#

doesnt his b move give confuse

#

huh they use it up on bar 1

#

interesting

heavy sinew
river cliff
#

Every regi combined

lost juniper
#

Regigigas Legendary Arena with 2 of the other Regis as sidemons BarryPogChamp

river cliff
#

As long as it doesn't do what the palmer ub does I'm down

rocky oasis
#

LG w/ piercing blows...

#

honestly palmer would be a lot more manageable if he couldnt just ignore vigilance

jade ore
#

idk about that

worthy horizon
#

yeah dmg requirement is the much harder limit

sturdy steeple
#

currently adding the jp names for all of the units on here too for the many jp players who use the solo sheet

dawn plume
#

how do they refer to same costume alts? like variety lodge bp mix

sturdy steeple
#

good question im just still calling them where they come from

#

like the trainer lodge in japanese is called the salon

true tartan
#

Variety comes from Variety banner

sturdy steeple
#

so lear salon

true tartan
#

Lodge in japanese is Salon

#

Mix... it is Mix in japanese too

#

BP.... they do have in the items "Battle Points" in katakana* lol

dawn plume
#

looks like they still use BP for short too

true tartan
#

I know Snow has some shortenings they made

lost juniper
#

Probably would be good to ask someone to confirm how they refer to them in the JP community

true tartan
#

BP are BPs from what I remember

#

and DC.... I know Snow calls it DC

kind imp
#

I remember their sheet having a conversion table (?) but prob still best to ask them

sturdy steeple
#

oh awesome

true tartan
#

yup

#

that's the one from Snow

#

there's one more column with their abbreviation

sturdy steeple
#

i see they just translate names of the mons

true tartan
#

yeah, that one doesn't have that abbreviation

sturdy steeple
#

wheres the abbrev one

sturdy steeple
#

neat thankyu

true tartan
#

well, that's how Snow abbreviates them

sturdy steeple
#

hmm

true tartan
#

Alt? A
Variety? V
Sygna Suit? M
Lodge? L
DC? D
Mix? X

#

another alt? A2
another SS? MA (MA2)

#

and... that's it lol

sturdy steeple
#

too short for some cause i like putting the full name minus the pokemon

#

but this helps

true tartan
#

is just there DawnNom

true tartan
#

in other news...

#

with this new alt, Lillie has claimed the "character with most solos" title that Leaf held for some time

#

all her alts add up to 45 solos

#

but Leaf is very close with 42 while only having 5 units

bitter gate
#

And yet lodge is still sololess

true tartan
#

can she get anything with full invest +10?

#

nuke bulu using stoic or stuff?

tender horizon
#

And her gauge suck

sturdy steeple
#

you arent using a maxed leaf

#

unless youre talkin about lillie

#

in that case shes gonna need some magic

true tartan
#

yeah, Lillie lol

#

you know I wouldn't talk about Leaf in that aspect

#

but the comment was that lodge is still sololess lol

kind imp
#

But 687 HP lol

true tartan
#

Grassy Terrain DR 45%

sturdy steeple
#

now we're talkin

dawn plume
#

little rock beats big rock

#

only 1 recover mpr but like 3 tm mprs which helped a lot to combat the atk debuffs... its an mpr and dont get flinched race

#

not as bad as some of the other lodge solos i've done (leaf, volo...)

#

but still pretty bad

sturdy steeple
#

yayy nice work

bright brook
pearl beacon
#

Can't wait for the mix update to get him, need the salt

dawn plume
lost juniper
#

Electric weak who?

#

Who needs 5/5 either

sturdy steeple
#

snow got classic blue vs bulu, so now we have attained 300 bulu solos...

true tartan
#

bullied...

#

Entei approaching to 200 too

sturdy steeple
#

and latios is getting 400 next month

true tartan
#

soon

river cliff
#

Terrakion is surprisingly close to 100

chrome halo
#

This is wild

dawn plume
#

lmao wtf

#

just proc catalytic cure every attack EZ

rocky oasis
#

well then

pearl pawn
bitter gate
#

Clears like this are ones that make me faithful than Skyla v cob is not a pipe dream lol

true tartan
#

the bulky and "infinite" sustain Caitlin appears

#

and her support unit has only 1 solo... rip

#

wonder what's next

#

would be too wild if she somehow gets Cobalion

#

lol

pearl pawn
true tartan
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I've only got past Regirock's bar 1 once with her...

bitter gate
true tartan
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both end up relying on healing so...

bitter gate
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Still trying Skyla on both Raikou and cob

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Massive pain in the ass

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Predictions on Bugsy solos?

true tartan
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that cricket is too bulky

bitter gate
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Bulky but circle duration is kinda meh

true tartan
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those TM tho

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he has healing everywhere

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not much needed to see he'll get many solos lol

bitter gate
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I don't think he'll get as much as Lillie actually?

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Though egg on my face if he does

true tartan
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we'll see DawnNom

gleaming cypress
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been an hour already...

true tartan
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yea

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he's done Cresselia for now

bitter gate
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Wait, wtf?

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Of all the things he could've done first

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Didn't expect cress lol

true tartan
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lots of bulk, can heal a lot

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reduces stats...

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happens to be a kind of mixed hitter, so yeah lol

bitter gate
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My issue is mostly how limited the circle is and how long animations are

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Meaning you have to really manage the duration right

true tartan
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eh...

bitter gate
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But I guess he can manage just fine

true tartan
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you can put your circle when you need lol

bitter gate
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Send vid?

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I wanna see

bitter gate
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Yikes

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Getting only 3-4 b moves in one circle

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Is quite unfort

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But he's quite fat even without it, yeah