Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)

[brisk sapphire]

lol true

[true tartan]

https://youtu.be/_0oMt3vYE2w

aight, done

and with that, 100 clears with any level of SA as minimum required

of course, some runs were done at SA but lowered later on

[gleaming cypress]

the whale diff continues to grow larger

[dawn plume]

are those counted towards the total?

like i know steven had some SA clears that got lowered to just EXR

[true tartan]

yep

I mean, if they were lowered, they are not counted in "Super Awakened"

it only counts the minimal runs that require more than 5/5

[plush edge]

Poor latios

[true tartan]

about to hit 400 lol

there are 61 units without any solo

[lost juniper]

Gloria being the only sololess pokefair

[true tartan]

SS Lysandre being the only fully SA poke fair for solos

(N was saved by Tornadus)

[lost juniper]

At least he has a 6/5 EX R solo on Latios so it's not like he need 10/5 for all of these

[true tartan]

no exceptions

tbh, that'd just be lowered to 5/5 whenever dena feels like increasing the level lol

eventually.... many units will just do solos on LG by levels alone and Latios not hitting hard enough lol

[dawn plume]

n got tornadus with just exr? nice

[inner turret]

raw damage

[dawn plume]

the +40 speed from field cake actually helps him quite a bit

[lost juniper]

I hope Reshiram gets field too to match Zekrom

Either that or match Kyurem with strike

[dawn plume]

if they remember it exists 😭

why is it taking so long

they reran ss serena again before anni n and steven

[shy notch]

Brock EX when

[lost juniper]

If only Brock had crit

[shy notch]

Could be worth running sharp entry 1 over vigilance

[sturdy steeple]

doc updated

[shy notch]

For what it’s worth, this was at 4*

[river cliff]

I'm surprised lodge lillie doesn't have any solos

[true tartan]

why

[kind imp]

Bulk and gauge sucks

[brisk sapphire]

My phone died. Aight that's the sign to stop for today

[tight rivet]

once i get home i can start attempting sina stuff

bulu and entei can def be lowered

rest im not sure about at 3/5

[karmic willow]

gauge sux

[tight rivet]

latias would be possible if she didnt get clapped by earthquake

[karmic willow]

she's best at supporting

[river cliff]

Hm maybe with godlike mgr luck she could do it. Offensive debuffs + synchro healing seems like it'd be enough to handle latios, and her nuke is solid

[dawn plume]

https://youtu.be/ZoH36WJn2GI?si=Nxkk6IV73JgEB46h

first time i’ve seen a raikou run where they just let electrode explode itself

[true tartan]

I think.... it has happened before idk why

[lost juniper]

SC Zinnia's solo had it too

[dawn plume]

another dark type evasion unit…

[shy notch]

SC Zinnia shifting to evasion gaming from flinching in her recent solos. Getting Uxie was crazy

[lost juniper]

Unfortunately Uxie is her last

No free moves VS Registeel makes it impossible, and Tornadus, is well yeah

Terra boosts its stats too much for Zinnia to solo

[dawn plume]

ss n 13/14 maybe i wrote off the superawakening too soon… (though the stats and move power are probably doing more work than the passive lets be real)

[river cliff]

Seasonal and sc superawakening when

[lost juniper]

Also more like SS N can abuse freeze gaming and fast track

I doubt most of the new ones need awakening

[true tartan]

[rocky oasis]

he aint touching moltres i guess

[true tartan]

no way lol

[rocky oasis]

still aint enough to justify investing him above 2/5 for me

[true tartan]

just need DeNA to give Dojo Gloria rain

and she takes moltres

[rocky oasis]

she nukes past bar 2 already i think?

hows her gauge bc i dont have her

[true tartan]

is good enough

[brisk sapphire]

Besties I have a question

Suppose that hit at 50%, would Heat Wave be interrupted and I get to sneak a queue?

[raven crane]

Wow that's funny.

[worthy horizon]

without flinch? no

[brisk sapphire]

Alright thanks

This was not my ideal Bar 3 start anyway

But good to know

[worthy horizon]

yea

[brisk sapphire]

With this sync dmg at Bar 3 tho I'm 100% confident now

I just need Bar 2 to cooperate or I hit my insta queues

[worthy horizon]

well it won't be interrupted in the implication that it shows up as a queue at all bc once it does it's not being removed

but you can get the bar skip before it queues at all

[brisk sapphire]

My ideal scenario is I flinch > sync > b move

[raven crane]

Is that SA or no?

[brisk sapphire]

Yes. 10/5

[raven crane]

Good luck.

[brisk sapphire]

Thank you. Day 4 now

[brisk sapphire]

I just entertained the idea because I know its 2nd half has a different set of moves

But ye was not 100% sure

[worthy horizon]

yeah if you do cross the half bar you can queue again

stricter window than instaqueue on entering a bar though which also has two windows

and even the first window alone is quite a bit more lenient

[inner turret]

If you managed to queue the sync before bar 3 yes

It wouldnt interrupt but Moltres wouldnt even have queue'd to begin with, and then you could insta queue a triple arrow

And since you have MGR9 you should have a window to queue the sync before bar 3, but yeah it needs to reach 50%

[brisk sapphire]

Oh I removed MGR9

[inner turret]

Ah

Then you have no window

But if you enter bar 3, flinch it and sync below half then you're good

[brisk sapphire]

I found something that works w/o it

[true tartan]

something for fun

[lost juniper]

Funny how you can tell exactly some important dates but the influx of new solos

[shy sinew]

love how I just don't need to look at the legend in the first graph

I just know which one Latios is

[lost juniper]

Like when Terrakion, Registeel and Raikou dropped, and the exact time when we got all LAs available permanently

[true tartan]

Terrakion is the hardest to see haha

you could mix it up with Latios, but Raikou and Registeel are more obvious

[sturdy steeple]

that day was insane

[dawn plume]

raikou drop day one of the most legendary days in poma history

[lost juniper]

8/9/2022 was definitely the biggest day for soloing

This was when we got all arenas permanently

[true tartan]

posted a more "visible" line in the twitter

https://x.com/pomatools/status/1864124076005933516

PoMaTools (@pomatools) on X

Made something for fun... still a bit early as the year has yet to end, but as for now... the Yearly solo visual increase!

2020 ended with the first solo recorded: Koga against Latios!

By this time, Entei, Cobalion, Latios, Azelf, Tapu Bulu and Regirock have been introduced.

Twitter · Dec 4, 2024, 1:46 AM

[dawn plume]

i forgot koga vs latios was the first one ever recorded lol

ancient video

and i'm still never trying that one

[median swan]

it's our equivalent of the first ever nuzlocke comic

[dawn plume]

the level cap was 125 😭

[true tartan]

and only 2* gear lol

[shy sinew]

no Recover MPR, just some crazy flinch luck

[karmic willow]

I am so sneaking in machamp just for this

Extra stats and more sync

@brisk sapphire can I ask for grid?

[karmic willow]

Interesting

With machamp i am so skipping berserker

Anws

LS?

[brisk sapphire]

I actually removed Flameproof for CS2 so uhhh this might not work but if you are doing a duo then maybe you can sneak that in

[karmic willow]

I like cs2

Kill it before it kills you

[brisk sapphire]

I was using Flameproof, but I'm having problem taking too long in Bar 2 and 3

I found a way to blitz both bars, with one margin of error on bar 2

[karmic willow]

What is your gear?

[brisk sapphire]

But if I use that margin of error I need Bar 3 to be perfect

[karmic willow]

Do you have crit moves and what not?

I mean it Should push through 50

[dawn plume]

yeah i think damage rush is rei's best bet

all the bulk gears in the world he's still dying to most sun boosted moves

[brisk sapphire]

Basically my gears aren't too great so I was letting RNG compensate

In all fairness tho it is doable

[karmic willow]

Even with eggmon this was not easy

[brisk sapphire]

My biggest enemy is Bar 3 insta queue

In my 500++ run I only hit 2

I can alleviate that if I'm able to keep endure intact but that depends on bar 2 RNG lol

The final flinch I need on that bar is just not happening

[brisk sapphire]

So if I hit instaqueue or I have endure, I can tank heat wave then flinch > sync > b move

[karmic willow]

I failed instaqueue

Lol

I mean I suppose i COULD try again

Mash a bit harder

But nah

[dawn plume]

you have 10/5 rei too?

[karmic willow]

No

Lol

That is why i do eggmon

Even with 10/5 Rei i would not be crazy enough to try in a gauntlet setting

Like at some point i will compromise

This is one I would GLADLY take

Bc moltress

[dawn plume]

damn so your rei just happened to live at 1%

thats wild

[karmic willow]

Dude i popped off when that happened

Like holy shit the one percent

Extra hp from the eggmon

Theme skills my beloved

[river cliff]

Theme skills are the best

[brisk sapphire]

I was so close

[shy notch]

You got this

[bitter gate]

nay

stupid crit

[bitter gate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1220272162787561561/1313763475998244864/Screenshot_2024-12-04-15-06-10-029_com.dena.a12026418.jpg?ex=67515115&is=674fff95&hm=e80cae936fa39578439d0c5ea2872ac17e65c00ee29c85f565922ca6728a8a2e&

You learn something new every day

My gauge was perfectly fine with no FT

just don't greed crit and MPR and you're fine

[true tartan]

interesting

[bitter gate]

this is the first time I did an Anabel solo without MPR

it's kinda funny

I ran Reflect MPR, but her TM tends to be the most important

but with good timing it's not needed, and good grid techs

[true tartan]

for bar changes, I believe

for EQ mainly, as if that hits you, you're dead

[bitter gate]

I don't use my max move until the last bar

I used my first protect on the EQ

then immediately maxed

and after that I just had to not get crit

I did, but I also got some flinches

so it was fine

[true tartan]

yeah...

[bitter gate]

2nd bar crit DPulse does nothing so I was stupid to protect that

[true tartan]

that's how it also would be for Bellelba

but slippery slope

[bitter gate]

Anyways, I thought this would be quite hard, but turned out to be fairly easy

So I get the guaranteed 13

when she gets her SA

It's just Cress now

[true tartan]

physical units overcoming cress...

[bitter gate]

she has a max move, it's mostly the stupid dodge tilt

that's annoying

[bitter gate]

Bellelba doesn't have the gauge for it I think, even with FT

[true tartan]

?

for who?

[bitter gate]

the reason why this works is because Anabel has permanent accel and an accel 3 passive

Latias

[true tartan]

bruh

Bellelba can 100% do Latias

[bitter gate]

or did you come close

[true tartan]

she is GAUGELESS

but is a potion MPR

[bitter gate]

....kk

nvm

she also has the anabel passive

even if she wasn't she's fine

catalytic acceleration is balanced

[true tartan]

yeah

she has perma field lol

I've gotten to bar 2...

near bar 3

but potion be potion

[bitter gate]

yeah she definitely can

Gl tho

[true tartan]

she can do as many as Anabel haha...

or well

"many" of her

not as many, Anabel has better damage lol

max moves are big helps to counter gimmicks

[bitter gate]

Ye, she also has the antistatus

[true tartan]

tfw I got to bar 3 with Bellelba once

[bitter gate]

and stuff like quick cure

[true tartan]

against Terrakion

[bitter gate]

I'm surprised she hasn't done Entei yet

[true tartan]

eh...

is annoying

[bitter gate]

I can imagine yea

[true tartan]

getting hit by trap

potion MPRs...

and then

boom, flamethrower burn

lol

[bitter gate]

can you not run flameproof for that tho

i thought you do

[true tartan]

I don't even remember what I used for those attempts

[bitter gate]

The easiest of Moltres/Terrakion/Tornadus after her awakening is Terrakion, I got to half bar 3 a couple of times by now

[true tartan]

ah... I put Vigilance

[bitter gate]

is that necessary tho

I guess?

[true tartan]

is a no idea tbh

[bitter gate]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=030000052800&s0=5&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=0&t0=11111&g0=AAECAwQFBggLDhAaHB0eHyAiIyU&v1=0&v2=0

you can run this, idk

with flameproof

[true tartan]

haha....

resetting for MPR1

[bitter gate]

she can take the crits no

I had to run FT on Phoebe and grind critless

[true tartan]

FT on PHoebe...

you mean... Fall?

[bitter gate]

Yes, Fall

[bitter gate]

I thought she needed sharp entry because of the shield

but it was miserable

[true tartan]

I wonder why

she has vigi so... lol

[bitter gate]

so I ran FT instead and slow grinded it

[true tartan]

and Shadow Claw has 50% innate

and I guess you just phantom force on bar 3'

yup lol

[bitter gate]

I forget if I ran status immunity there or if I just

did some really good PForce dodges

[true tartan]

you mostly need

1 Phantom for bar 3

as over half, it uses HW once

[bitter gate]

2, for sacred fire

I think I had some stupid MPR on that one

[true tartan]

then you have a safe run* until you put it under

at under half, is either burst it down

or try to gain some turns evading the burn

because it is Sacred -> IT -> Sacred -> IT

NY Sabrina has a chance vs Entei too

Status Condition barrier

[bitter gate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60TfxMYsdlw

10th kill

[tender horizon]

Join me in battle

[bitter gate]

Also, cool

SSN joined the 13 club

[rocky oasis]

and is staying there

birb too evil

[brisk sapphire]

So true.

[karmic willow]

@bitter gate can't wait for S.A next month

can y'all remind me

does S.A give extra speed?

pretty sure no

[worthy horizon]

10% at 6/5

[rotund rain]

Only the 1.1x stat buffs at 6/5 gives speed I’m pretty sure

[karmic willow]

right right

who has the fastest speed stat in the game rn when S.A'd

aside from surge

god i hope nobody takes over his position it's so damn funny

[rotund rain]

Pretty sure it still would be Speed form Deoxys SS Steven

Oh wait rn

I checked SS May (post-Mega) and Nemona speed stat at their maximum investment

They have 591 and 559 respectively

[karmic willow]

check surge

[rotund rain]

Oh wait, just realised BT Leon has a Superawakening too

[karmic willow]

566....

damn

long live the king

ss may is THAT fast?

[rotund rain]

His is 649

[rotund rain]

I also account for the Sprint EXR

[karmic willow]

sadge

welp

guess deoxys is truly

the fastest

i cannot wait for regieleki pair

that'd be so damn funny

[rotund rain]

Actually Awakenened BT Leon with Sprint EXR rn is faster than Deoxys-Speed (before SS Steven gets his next month)

649 > 630

[karmic willow]

WHA

[quaint tartan]

Bt Leon fastest unit in the game?

[median swan]

he has more than gladion now yay

[vital ibex]

Congrats

[chrome halo]

Unova keep getting Ws lol

[vital ibex]

I cant imagine how long that took cuz I couldnt even get past bar 1

Plus MPR hell

[chrome halo]

I just realized that the last sync was non crit

[median swan]

too long (but latias took longer lmao)

[bitter gate]

noice, what build did you end up using

[median swan]

mg9 + si

https://youtu.be/CTlMwsg7HS0?si=ffC1BS3ghmK7umSm

[bitter gate]

cool

Also look

https://youtu.be/FAIp8HkH__s?si=igct_MfU0qAdUqBv

another member of the 13 club

and didn't even need the full investment

[river cliff]

Cresselia question, when the stat reduction reflection is up does it trigger if the move hits and her stat that would be lowered is already at its minimum?

I'm trying to decide if running satisfied snarl on thorton is a good idea

[inner turret]

If you check the BT Leon solo right above you'll have your answer

[dawn plume]

cresselia getting owned today

[inner turret]

I think it reflects specifically status moves that would drop stats, as even on the ss diantha solo, rock tomb drops speed on bar 2

[river cliff]

Mm, ok. Now it's just a matter of if I can afford to drop metallic healing

[dawn plume]

it is status move reflection yea

[inner turret]

no that's something else

Cresselia has reflect stat reduction, status move reflection and status move defense

and all 3 do different stuff, and the stuff they do isn't obvious

[brisk sapphire]

YOOOOO GUYS

I DID IT

[inner turret]

YOOOO

[shy sinew]

woah you have so much health left

[inner turret]

the flinch gods were with him

[brisk sapphire]

After 700++ runs

Okay time ot upload lol

[river cliff]

Does status move defense prevent thorton from applying restrain?

[inner turret]

no

[dawn plume]

i love flinch masters ex

[inner turret]

it shouldnt (i think )

[river cliff]

Good. I'll test it first to make sure

[inner turret]

these shields are such an obscure mechanic that I can't be sure

[river cliff]

Though if it prevents flinching I could see it preventing restrain

[inner turret]

it prevents staggering specifically (and equivalent passives), not flinch in general

but yeah

[river cliff]

Yeah it shuts down thorton's restrain, bummer

That might actually make it impossible since his gauge completely relies on that

Unless his sync can get close to one shotting it

[inner turret]

cress is frail on bar 3

[heavy sinew]

Wtf

[inner turret]

57 SpD and 0 mitig

[inner turret]

just flinch 5head

it's that easy

[chrome halo]

[inner turret]

[brisk sapphire]

Oh the vid is 2 mins long. Can I force it to be a vid instead of a short

[inner turret]

normally yes

when you upload on pc there's a setting for that, on mobile idk

[brisk sapphire]

Oh good

[inner turret]

on mobile when you click on the "+" to upload, at first you're on shorts but you can click to move to "video"

so yeah you should be able to

[brisk sapphire]

Erm wait might be +reading moment but I did not see the option hold on

[inner turret]

on pc?

[brisk sapphire]

Yeah

[chrome halo]

I don't see it on mobile either

[inner turret]

I don't have a small video to test on my pc

On mobile

[lost juniper]

Try to extend it to 3 minutes somehow

Like add a minute of nothing to the video and splice these together if you want to avoid it being turned to a short

[brisk sapphire]

I can do that. At the end probably lol

[lost juniper]

That works. Saw several people doing it to avoid the short curse

[brisk sapphire]

Okay I just recorded the pokemon center

[dawn plume]

new youtube moment

[heavy sinew]

Clean your keyboard

[gleaming cypress]

goated indeed

very surprising to see it actually being done

[brisk sapphire]

https://youtu.be/pJtjNslAjy4

[bitter gate]

oh you did it

noice

[stuck mantle]

Nice on vid its look super easy🤣 too bad its not show amount off attempts:) Rei is even more broken now

[shy notch]

I wasn’t keen on his super awakening giving fighting zone on his first p-move, but he makes great use of it here

[brisk sapphire]

I've dealt a lot of bad RNG here, but looking back at this run, I'm apparently one instaqueue (end of Bar 2) away from having the perfect run

The LG duality

[brisk sapphire]

I could put 700++ runs in the description

[brisk sapphire]

ngl my first thought was "does this affect DC negatively" lol

I want to attempt Cobalion next if possible, but I'll be out this weekend so we'll see

[true tartan]

hmmm

if anything, I wonder if Terrakion is possible

[brisk sapphire]

Oh I haven't checked Terrakion

[true tartan]

sad that the zone doesn't last that long

benefits, he disables the gimmick with zone, can reduce defenses

so your moves do more damage to rush it

[brisk sapphire]

Main reason I reset for MPR; in my first attempts, the Zone is gone right after Bar 1 is gone

[true tartan]

yep

that'd be the same idea for Terrakion

[brisk sapphire]

Hmmm maybe I can try 2 MPR with Terrakion then? Might be possible to blitz Bar 2 completely

Worth a try

[true tartan]

you need MPRs to put your sync right next to zone deployment

maybe even get 3 MPRs?

for another one after sync

[brisk sapphire]

I can try it

Also I saw that he has no accuracy buff

Eva + flinch + blitz gaming?

[true tartan]

Terra starts with accuracy lol

+2

[brisk sapphire]

Oh oops +reading moment again

[true tartan]

so, at best

you can use moves under zone for 6 turns

the thing is... can Rei clear it in 6 moves? lol

[brisk sapphire]

I'll probably look at it tomorrow

[inner turret]

I think it's a positive

but with a big question mark lol

[stuck mantle]

You need do this way get 6 eva up hit flinch sync then b move bar 2 and try go sync bar 3 you prob need 3 tmp rei

[brisk sapphire]

It's worth a shot. The bulk of RNG is at the start

[stuck mantle]

But if hit hard when zone in you could put him in bar 3 sync at zone then b move flinch end it

Yeap you need get for rei sync also keen

So you skipp bar 1

[brisk sapphire]

So next on my agenda is Terrakion > Cobalion

[stuck mantle]

Coba issue is heal bar 1

[karmic willow]

insane

[stuck mantle]

And you will 4 gauge move get problem latter on

[karmic willow]

bro you counted them all?

insane

[brisk sapphire]

Not really lol but an estimation based on the number of vids I deletwd

[karmic willow]

but

nice

[brisk sapphire]

It might even be more than that

[stuck mantle]

Terrakion blitz is more like on the zone

[karmic willow]

about terrakion in particular though

you will have to kill it in a very, very short time frame

time is of the essence

[stuck mantle]

Like use tm flinch hope def drop tmp

[karmic willow]

if zone lasted twice as long then it's easy

[stuck mantle]

But you can try terrakion depend on rei damage how fast he can clear bar 1/2

If zone last on bar 3 you have chance

[brisk sapphire]

I'll try tomorrow while I commute to work lol

Gauge the dmg and see how it is

[stuck mantle]

If zone out bar 3 you have no chance

[karmic willow]

it's more or less

get through entire bar 1

without zone

and THEN get to bar 2 with zone

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/29000/72401?s=5&l=140&r=6&p=0&a=15010101&g=AAECAwQFBwoYGh4hKSwvMTIzNQ&x=true

i'm thinking this

you'll have to dodge to survive

nuke once without zone

2nd nuke with zone

that's bar 1

idk

[brisk sapphire]

Eva gaming let's go

[stuck mantle]

Issue is he set zone when use move. So you would need mp for sync then mp hit befor next sync

[karmic willow]

yeah

that's why

nuke once without zone

so dodge is a must

[stuck mantle]

And alot mprs

[karmic willow]

i'm counting at least

4

or more

[stuck mantle]

3 is need for first sync

[karmic willow]

4 minimum to get through bar 1

[brisk sapphire]

I was thinking 6 actually

[karmic willow]

yeah

either or

[stuck mantle]

Then 2

[karmic willow]

but alright

[stuck mantle]

Plus you can always use move gauge

[karmic willow]

6 mpr

all dodges

then nuke properly

my god

[brisk sapphire]

But will depend on how his sync does on Bar 1

[karmic willow]

yeah

i'm super curious since

my grid does not give +6 attack

so i feel like

at least 2 nukes are needed

one nuke, one b move and then sync

and then b move bar 2

[brisk sapphire]

This was my issue on 3v3 Fighting. I can't get Berserker

[karmic willow]

skip half bar

or....

get TO half bar

idk

all this theorizing makes my brain go hard

[brisk sapphire]

Will let you all know. Hopefully by Friday night. I will be out on weekends

[dawn plume]

this is so clean

using the tm twice to delay the fighting zone is smart

[sturdy steeple]

document updated

also great work yukure

[tender horizon]

When the 5th is Cresselia tf

[tender horizon]

Wow

[brisk sapphire]

Thank you all

[karmic willow]

epic

[gleaming cypress]

99% of LG players quit before they get the last flinch needed to solo

congrats on being the 1% that dont @brisk sapphire

[brisk sapphire]

So real on that

[tender horizon]

Cheren can do Registeel right

Probable

[dawn plume]

dc cheren? i say probably but insane luck needed

skippingmud probably grinding it lol

the def debuffs hurt a LOT

[tender horizon]

Riducure luck

He juzt need enlightenment

[gleaming cypress]

registeel? the one with perma +2 acc?

its a very long shot

[tender horizon]

Just dodge everything

[gleaming cypress]

true

[dawn plume]

yeah its like

theoretically possible

but it would suck so much

dunno if worth

regirock w stoic ls might be more reasonable lol

[karmic willow]

[rocky oasis]

wow cheren is actually decent

i get him tomorrow

[dawn plume]

i think imma 3/5 him

he gud

he needs that nuke though cuz his dps doesnt exist

[stuck mantle]

Dc new rotation is 6 dec

[sturdy steeple]

funny lil thing rn: units who can solo 10, 11, 12, and 13 stages all have the same amount of units rn at 19

[karmic willow]

1 9

when can we update this again?

[inner turret]

brb gotta get palmer his 10th solo

[true tartan]

no idea, someone else was doing it haha

[true tartan]

Akari has a chance vs Latias

and NY Dawn vs Entei

[kind imp]

#1012311116778586182 message

[true tartan]

Marnie vs Tornadus

[gleaming cypress]

give me 2 tech candies and i can go do ny dawn vs entei

💀

[sturdy steeple]

theres a handful of possible solos to break the count

[true tartan]

NC Calem, Ingo... MRed on Regirock?

[brisk sapphire]

Btw this tip inspired the run so thank you

[sturdy steeple]

do du gloria solos stdk >:3

[inner turret]

the experience from the ss ingo solo comming in clutch

[vital ibex]

dawn on entei seems like it should be easy

[inner turret]

have fun dodging fire spin

[sturdy steeple]

not that easy

bar 3 has piercing gaze

[inner turret]

ah lodge dawn

[sturdy steeple]

and dawn suffers from "needing" multiple lucky skills

ny dawn

[vital ibex]

if i had a nickel for each time a dawn alt had evasion based strats

[lost juniper]

It's probably doable now that she can use her tm many times so she can somewhat counter the burn on Bar 3

That or you need to reset for heat wave confusion proc, in which case... good luck with that lmao

[karmic willow]

idk

lack of crit is suffering

[sturdy steeple]

Doable but very difficult

[lost juniper]

https://youtu.be/Fb4GlSi_TAc

Latios lowered to 1/5 EX

[dawn plume]

[tender horizon]

thats more like it

[sturdy steeple]

a not recommended solo for an arc suit vs latios 😭

[shy sinew]

that horrendous?

[lost juniper]

To be fair to Leon, EX R makes it much easier

[lost juniper]

Yup

Have you seen the gears I needed for this one?

[true tartan]

is more like a "this can be done" more than "you should try" lol

[lost juniper]

It makes my Anni N gears for Bulu looks easy to get

[shy sinew]

in a meeting so I have not

[lost juniper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1014366916015554593/1313893101785452634/VideoCapture_20241204-174155.jpg?ex=6751c9ce&is=6750784e&hm=01565c6dcdb76eb9a4da0be4a158670e78c2047315f17b77922d851a2181f6c0&

I needed 2 pins to get these too

All to get the ranges I need for this solo

[shy sinew]

yeah those look great unfortunately for anyone with 1/5 Arc Leon

[sturdy steeple]

largely shouldnt matter since if you have arc suit leon youre probably gonna invest into him, and even if not, eggmons for LG <3

but it is quite sad

[pearl pawn]

22% move m ultiplier from SG is crazy

[young forge]

I dunno about that, I personally think that the other Arc Suits are more of a priority. Currently have 3/5 Cynthia, 3/5 Lance, and 1/5 Steven, but Steven would be next for me before Leon

But yes there's always Eggmons

[sturdy steeple]

oh absoultely the other arc suits are way better to invest in than leon

[quaint tartan]

I just realized Leon doesn’t have innate multiplier so he went immediately at the bottom of my priority list

[sturdy steeple]

but ofc theyre limited time and not everyone can get them all

[sturdy steeple]

lmao ikr

[quaint tartan]

Lance is way better in whatever way you look at both

[dawn plume]

leon's innate sync effect is seun after every sync

so completely worthless offtype

very cool!

[sturdy steeple]

dude traded a potentially tech innate multiplier for a single time 50% damage buff that only works vs 1 out of the 17 weaknesses in the game

[sturdy steeple]

the only thing leon can say over lance is that fire has better partners than dragon has rn,, but its not a compliment if your main upside as a unit is being carried by leaf and morty

[quaint tartan]

I don’t even think he’s going to be that better than SSHilda in dc, which is the only content he can be useful bc Hilda has super syncer 9, rising tide and scorching sync 5 lol

[sturdy steeple]

he does have 2 burst damage options so they could be a difference maker but yeah hilda is just so much easier to use,,

[quaint tartan]

You are right. Rn btw, just waiting for a dragon supp with dragon zone
And Hilda has to be awaken too, yet

[sturdy steeple]

indeed

that damage is only getting better

[quaint tartan]

Hope they don’t shaft her

They have to do smth broken as with grusha or anni raihan plz thx

[sturdy steeple]

she doesnt even need something crazy, shes already so good

just the stats alone from 6-9 are good

[median swan]

agile entry 6

[sturdy steeple]

especially with her base power being so high

thatd be so funny

[lost juniper]

https://youtu.be/IsRftQltPkA

Cobalion lowered too

[sturdy steeple]

klara didnt make this last long

[rocky oasis]

and i finally got adaman

[heavy sinew]

says 2/5 Leon
Look inside
1/5 at the beginning

[rocky oasis]

how is he at 1/5

just a beatstick / terrak counter?

[lost juniper]

Whoops. He's supposed to be 2/5 there

I candied him during my record and forgot I did it

[brisk sapphire]

Sir/Ma'am status report. 2 MPR is enough

[lost juniper]

Seems like if you had the insta-queue you would've won

[brisk sapphire]

Yes lol

[rocky oasis]

idk how yall do it

[brisk sapphire]

That was 5% HP remaining

[rocky oasis]

i never get the 50% instaqueue

[lost juniper]

He's alright. His damage is good on type but nothing special off type

[brisk sapphire]

@stuck mantle @karmic willow @true tartan on Terrakion

[rocky oasis]

probably gonna end up duoing moltres w/ 1/5 adaman or smth

And lodge adaman is apparently perma stapled to archie?

[lost juniper]

He'd struggle with no burn on the bird

Leon is strong but not to the point he can duo with 1/5 Adaman

[true tartan]

?

[rocky oasis]

lol i dont have arc leon

idc about him

duoing moltres w/ a farfetchd or smth

[kind imp]

for me it's the post bar transition one

[lost juniper]

I can't read

[lost juniper]

If you can pernamently flinch chain, maybe?

Adaman is gaugeless

But like the farfetch'd will struggle

[rocky oasis]

So perfect omastar partner

or aero

[brisk sapphire]

If this is about the tag, you wondered if Rei vs Terrakion is possible

[lost juniper]

Would they be fast enough on the bird though

[rocky oasis]

im already running permaflinch comps

[brisk sapphire]

Unless it was not you who I was talking to last night

[true tartan]

I suggested Terrakion haha

[brisk sapphire]

Okay ye lol

[rocky oasis]

GL lol

at least rei gets a guaranteed flinch

[brisk sapphire]

Time for that 10th solo lol

[true tartan]

I mentioned that 2 MPR or, maybe 3, can do it

[rocky oasis]

would be even more miserable w/o it

[true tartan]

but good to see it is very doable to a damage range lol

[brisk sapphire]

The one I did has two. More will be preferred but 2 is possible

He sync nuked Terrakion Bar 3 at 95% lol

But ye I'll do more runs later. I did this while going to work and I'm almost there

[rocky oasis]

public transit is such a miserable experience lol

[brisk sapphire]

So true lol

[rocky oasis]

never met anyone who actually likes ours except for the tourists

[worthy horizon]

yeah pretty much

[rocky oasis]

i guess if latios comes back he could be a solo

thats it tho

[worthy horizon]

they wouldn't be very efficient on like latias, regirock, registeel, uxie, cresselia but they can take out all the rest and you might be able to push for a clear on most/all of those anyway

and if latios rolls around you can do solos ye

but archie needs 4 exr for his currently

[rocky oasis]

oof imagine having to cake archie...

I cant afford the tech cake atm w/ how many units want support

[worthy horizon]

yeah low priority cake but i still needed to to get moltres stuff working

can still duo with rain eggmon or something

without that much investment

[kind imp]

https://fxtwitter.com/amarua_poke_a/status/1863847913698574804

will can't debuff himself with his tm now

[dawn plume]

the will tm arc has been crazy

unchanged for 5 years -> changed into tate's tm for some reason -> shadow buffed

[true tartan]

now remake all solos

[vital ibex]

honestly never made sense that he could

considering, impervious

[true tartan]

haha... it just rewrote its stats to match the target's possitive buffs, but doubled

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/960306675473084426/1313635171324657766/image.png?ex=67522b17&is=6750d997&hm=b27a7edfc0a7d048a6a2a208a690ec058d5ef1804f01441bc296286f92ca9932&

here, an evolution to how it used to behave, what it did when bugged, and now how it works

[rocky oasis]

gonna be getting my will to +8 for sync power flux

might be a waste of orbs but ive got everything critical done

just QOL improvements now

[river cliff]

I've got rosa and marlon queued up for similar qol improvements

I need to dump some orbs on walllace at some point as well

[rocky oasis]

idk about rosa

she kinda has everything she needs

unless you wanna grab OAR and spatk mpr at the same time

[dawn plume]

i did that for bulu solo lol

saves me headaches

[heavy sinew]

no adaman after 5 multis im convinced this guy just fucking hates me

[rocky oasis]

i had to pity him

dont worry he hates me too

[brisk sapphire]

You guys called?

[rocky oasis]

rip

another sufferer

hopefully nc blue aint gonna be this obnoxious

[heavy sinew]

me with nc leaf

[rocky oasis]

Nc blue will at least be around for a whole ass month

enough time for me to get a pity in

[bright brook]

Milo probably needs 3/5 to solo latios

Really just a spotlight in disguise if it weren't for his 4/5 2 nodes.

[bitter gate]

he doesn't have the sustain, yeah

he's too blitz oriented

very, very fast with partners, but that's it

[bright brook]

He also weirdly has a high atk stat

high for a support

[bitter gate]

for the MAX move chip ofc

[bright brook]

lol

[bitter gate]

much like Anabel, it's a good tool

I unironically think support max moves as chip is valid

and in LG it literally does a lot of work too

ignores gimmicks

[bright brook]

Well in LG they all become bar 3 nukes

That bypass like everything

[bitter gate]

if you have crit, yeah

[bright brook]

Or sometimes just guard

[bitter gate]

my latias solo with her did half of bar 3

with only +2 attack and no crit

lel

[bright brook]

Sounds about right

[bitter gate]

but yeah, gotta see if anyone is even gonna pull/do solos with him

[bright brook]

Well

[bitter gate]

Like I have him

but only 1/5

as all my stuff is being saved for Anabel

[worthy horizon]

2/5 should be good enough for bulu(?)

[bright brook]

Yea 2/5 gets bulu

[worthy horizon]

yea

[bitter gate]

it should be enough, yes

but you'd need stoic

[bright brook]

https://youtu.be/JCKKtkTJ--0?si=jHoTB5z3b9xRnWqP

[bitter gate]

oh cool, you did it anyway

I do wonder how many kills he gets

I'd say maybe 9? 10?

assuming 4/5 or more

Latios/bulu/Regirock/Registeel/Raikou/Latias/Cob

then ?? Uxie/Azelf?

[bright brook]

He has the tools to solo all but cress and moltres

[bitter gate]

Tornadus sounds like a nightmare

[bright brook]

But it's the question of longevity

[bitter gate]

yeah he has very limited longevity

to his one round of GTerrain pings

• MPR fishing

he doesn't even get a signature cookie does he

[bright brook]

Should have given him field

[bitter gate]

Yeah, he doesn't even get one

smh

[bright brook]

Nah

Doesn't matter

Most exclusive LS suck for LG anyway

[bitter gate]

like he's not Alt Elio level's of bad I suppose

[bright brook]

Considering the opportunity cost of vigil, stoic, ft, etc

Well no, hes actually way better in terms of solos

I think he'll get 10

Stuff like registeel and latias often require really good longevity and/or evasion, so it comes down to whether or not he has enough stats

[bitter gate]

who, Elio?

[bright brook]

Milo

[worthy horizon]

with razor leaf mgr 9 i don't think he'll need to rely on ft too much and 4/5 won't need stoic either

[bitter gate]

yeah

Elio needed the full package of EXR

+10

for his non latios solos lol

then again Anabel needed 5 EX for everything so lel

[bright brook]

Not just 5EX tho

also you

[worthy horizon]

below 4/5 milo might be alright for duos with janine, mallow, or mina for debuff support to make up for no defense boosts while providing attack buffs

i think it'll come down to stuff like that

[brisk sapphire]

Oops Fighting Zone expired right as I'm about to sync

[tender horizon]

[brisk sapphire]

Welcome to the 10/14 club Rei

[sturdy steeple]

Good workk

[brisk sapphire]

I'll upload once I get home

Still need to upgrade Moltres desc too

[stuck mantle]

Nice

Told you when have bar 3 zone you can get him:)

[brisk sapphire]

Yep. Sync did 97% lol

[stuck mantle]

Even 10% you could finish him

2 moves

[brisk sapphire]

Yep true

[stuck mantle]

Since b move flinch low def

Have gauge

I expect zone run out after sync

Rei is super good unit love him

[brisk sapphire]

So real

[stuck mantle]

Always do him solo cs mode when fight weak is

Eva up super up next its broken combo

[karmic willow]

Whalala crazy

[brisk sapphire]

Way more manageable than Moltres

[chrome halo]

Mad respect to you

[brisk sapphire]

[hallow gull]

Congrats

[heavy sinew]

Rei's strongest soldier

[brisk sapphire]

[shy notch]

Welp used all my deluxe cookies trying to get status immunity. Next LG can’t come soon enough

[heavy sinew]

Yo no way me too

[shy notch]

I got Lithe from the last lucky cookie. So closeee

[inner turret]

Bro is cracked at the game

[inner turret]

https://fixvx.com/ktcmoon/status/1864690672571437553?t=H1kUVBZxTBcxUeOhQ95SYg&s=19

he's gaming

[brisk sapphire]

wtf happened to that bar 2

[plush nimbus]

Palmer having a solo at all is crazy ngl

[inner turret]

[plush nimbus]

He looks like the complete opposite unit that has any business doing LG

[sturdy steeple]

how

[plush nimbus]

Must be something on Grid then that idk about

[shy notch]

Getting a kill with crush grip with Torn being at 1% is pretty funny

[plush nimbus]

Because at base he is just slow big damage

What does he get on grid that helps survivability

[chrome halo]

i highly recommend watching all of his 10/14 solos

[sturdy steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/seeing-is-believing-the-hobo-the-polar-express-to-see-is-to-believe-see-it-first-before-you-believe-gif-19503835

[shy sinew]

I need to invest in my Palmer… he’s 5/5 just resources are so tight for me to EX him

[plush nimbus]

Oh i see healing in Zone

And probably combo freebie too because 4 gauge is still pain even with MGA

[bitter gate]

yeah that was some insane luck

through confusion as well

[kind imp]

flying guard ls

[shy sinew]

wait it’s just now clicking for me, he brute forced Tornadus?!

[plush nimbus]

Ew is that Defense down tile required

5/5 moment

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrating-funny-thanos-gif-22399978

Probably fine for the easier clears I’d assume

[true tartan]

this is for now, I've to add Tornadus

but am busy :T

[plush nimbus]

Oh only 3 are 5/5

Not bad

[true tartan]

only 2*

2 5, 3 4, 3 3

the two new ones are 10

[plush nimbus]

And the regis aren’t 5/5 either which are the ones that matter tbh

Maybe Azelf

[plush nimbus]

I kept 10/5 with the 5/5s

[wise raven]

that bar 2 deletion was so satisfying

[heavy sinew]

real

[sturdy steeple]

the sheet is already updated

pls get moltres it would be so funny

[plush nimbus]

The strikes strike back

Except NCBianca she’s actually good and doesn’t need to

[dawn plume]

cant debuff moltres def, hurts his damage a lot

but it would be REALLY funny ngl

[sturdy steeple]

moltres doesnt have DR but cant debuff def which is better than having DR but being being able to debuff def

ofc the other problems come in because its fucking moltres but yeah his damage is gonna be better vs moltres than the other DR stages hes brute forced thru

[dawn plume]

well he didnt debuff torn’s def nvm

just b move one shot bar 2

[sturdy steeple]

he did just slowly with the syncs

[dawn plume]

oh ngl forgot he had that tile

[inner turret]

Im pretty sure no

but it's a 10/5 moment anyway

[tender horizon]

Wow

[plush nimbus]

Imagine 9 candies to not even get a Moltres solo 💀

[hallow gull]

Remember Gloria doesn’t even get any solo yet

[true tartan]

no SA nor EX yet

[brisk sapphire]

https://youtu.be/cQx3PiBPbBQ

[inner turret]

He will get it

Im confident

But next on the list is probably Terrakion

[bright brook]

smol rox very close to beating big rox

[true tartan]

10/5 granted these 2 units 2 more solos, but on different places

[shy notch]

I think I found a path for 1 EX Arc Leon (would be identical for 1 20/20). I didn’t bother resetting for the second bar 1 stone edge miss here to see how it would go, so he would’ve been able to take the bar 3 facade. Question is if he can sync before the second sacred sword. The margins are so tight that I don’t think he can do it at 1 EXR funny enough

[true tartan]

damage range moment?

[shy notch]

Yup

Literally dropped dauntless and inferno powerups on the grid to keep burn

[kind imp]

No bandana?

[lost juniper]

Wish you luck

[shy notch]

Fire gear would probably be fine just for the special defense for bar 2 swift

[kind imp]

Or 40 sp.atk skill gear

Like from a custom feather

[shy notch]

Ye 30 HP 40 SpA 30 SpD

Reminds me of how in MSG you want 0 attack IVs for special attackers lol

[kind imp]

or this in gen 2

[inner turret]

he will DEAL very little damage smh

also that's kinda weird

[rotund rain]

Overflow moment

[inner turret]

well 999 is the overflow prevention

[kind imp]

it should cap at 999 to stop going over 1024 and overflowing

but thick club bypasses the cap

[inner turret]

I think they didn't keep that glitch in showdown

because I never heard of it

[worthy horizon]

i think it's actually in there, i've heard of it several times too

gen 2 specific though

[inner turret]

Maybe, I know lot about battle mechanics but gen 2 isn't really something I checked a lot

[shy notch]

https://youtu.be/FhjwUJksXv8?si=4cLfKD_DgRKPTc0U

There’s also this

12:30

[inner turret]

Yeah I know about that

I've done it myself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHoECu7nBT0

[kind imp]

also eternamax eternatus and regieleki in trick room

[inner turret]

why eternamax, the defense overflow ?

[kind imp]

ye

[inner turret]

and trick room is basically any pokemon, it's just easier with regieleki

[dawn plume]

opened this channel up and thought i was in the wrong server

[inner turret]

lol

[nova grove]

managed to get 3* of all types but only one shiny with 5 eggs left (2 in incubators, 3 on deck). given that i got kris/jolteon and lucas/flareon from the eevee ticket so i have a second eterrain (with volkner as my other), a massive amount of sun now, and irida for ice zone + hail, should my resource priority be leafeon (i have no other grassy terrain) -> sylveon -> vaporeon -> umbreon -> espeon and wait to build jolteon/glaceon in case i roll a shiny next year? or is the opportunity value of bird in the hand worth building them all now and just scrapping the resources if i get a shiny later?

asking here bc iirc this is where the eeveelutions have the most pressing value as terrain control on limited rosters

[worthy horizon]

don't build any, no gauntlet this month and no guarantee we'll get it even next month

[shy sinew]

There’s no way we’d stack LG and HSE in the same month, HSE is already confirmed

But once you have a 3 passive one it’s up to you whether to build that or an inevitable shiny later on down the road. I’m kicking myself for building the first shiny I got of each since shiny female would be less common (though no functional difference) but don’t spend resources on eggmons other than XP if you’d regret the investment later on

[nova grove]

gotcha

fairy zone and grassy terrain specifically are things ive been wanting so ill build those two and sit on the others until needed then, ty!

i also didnt realize gender was even a variable

i hope none of the other 3*s i transfered were ones that mattered but

oh well

[sturdy steeple]

It doesn't matter unless you really care about it, so dw too much

[nova grove]

i mean i want trans rights sylveon most of all so

[sturdy steeple]

Hell yeah true

[nova grove]

the others im fine with whatever

[kind imp]

my shiny sylveon is male, checked the other eevees and they were male too

i'm guessing they kept the gender ratios?

[nova grove]

ok non shiny sylv is m, so its just a hunt for shiny f sylv for perfect trans rep

[rotund rain]

pretty sure they do

[nova grove]

yeah i would imagine they do

[shy sinew]

My Umbreon is female, I only started noticing it when this time I hatched a shiny female Flareon and now I have regrets for 5 starring a boring male one when I could have also transferred a “spare” shiny that could have been female

[nova grove]

yeah i appreciate you mentioning it to look out for

i might also see if i get a f umb of either shiny or base bc i do think i prefer that

[shy notch]

Lol I finally got Cobalion to miss stone edge twice, but it didn’t matter since it also raised its attack with metal claw

[rocky oasis]

overflow is a thing in gen 8 pure hackmons where eternamax eternatus is immortal due to taking 1 dmg from everything and OHKO spam is the meta

[rocky oasis]

gen 8 hackmon is also pure cancer tho

[raven crane]

If there's a DeNA there's a way.

[river cliff]

I suppose I'd rather have too much content than too little

[lost juniper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-DACADehYs&feature=youtu.be

Bulu lowered to no cake

[rocky oasis]

i think most of us have accepted that we are gonna suck in HSE

[inner turret]

i accepted since the 1st hse that i will always suck at hse

[dawn plume]

i HATE hse!!!

[lost juniper]

Good thing I don't care about hse

[dawn plume]

i think i was like 600 something in fighting/steel

did my first 1000 strength clear

that was something

[lost juniper]

Also, I fixed the Arc Leon VS Coba video

It no longer shows 1/5

[lost juniper]

fighting/steel is at least a good combo

Both types are strong and we even got two on-type stages with Hala and Rose

[dawn plume]

i coulda gotten top 500 if i had ss lear probably

alas

[sturdy steeple]

hse the unit check gamemode

have 15 limiteds maxed out? easy mode

dont have that? cry ig

different units allowed every other month!!!

surely this is a healthy and fair event and doesnt punish people for their investments or lack there of

[inner turret]

Im gonna go to town when it's Normal's turn

[pearl beacon]

Where Milo solos he's that bad?

[sturdy steeple]

well he sure aint good

a couple more should happen but dont expect to be impressed

[shy sinew]

Milo is better than Florian and Juliana

[pearl beacon]

[rocky oasis]

palmer fans are eating well lol

mine is 1/5 tgo

[rotund rain]

Mine’s 1/5 too 🙃

[shy sinew]

lowered arc leon to 3/5 20/20 sorry hyper (bulu)

[shy notch]

What if…HSE inverse battle

[shy sinew]

rock steel inverse hse when

[raven crane]

Palmer Super Awakening time.

https://tenor.com/view/clodsire-pokemon-cute-gif-4211245703324885913

[worthy horizon]

milo is pretty unspectacular in nearly every way, won't be surprised if he doesn't pick up a high solo count

bad numbers

[shy sinew]

pretty unspectacular feels like a pretty accurate way to describe him tbf

[dawn plume]

genuinely a more questionable pokefair decision than greta or sina or dexio

and when everyone's poke fair... no one will be

[shy notch]

He seems more geared to DC (support/sprint, paralysis, SE all next) and even then…

[worthy horizon]

yeah

[rotund rain]

Also is it just me or is his HP stat quite low on base

[shy sinew]

definitely not just you

[worthy horizon]

barely above lodge supports

[true tartan]

I think I've read he has potential for UB?

but who knows :T

[raven crane]

'Least they were good.

[rotund rain]

I’ve read the same about it

[pearl beacon]

If only it was sprint/field 📈

[raven crane]

Milo is just, like, "decent."

Greta excelled in this game mode, Sina is great all around and Dexio looks to be cracked for DC/any single target damage cases you need.

[shy sinew]

I could see Nita for sure but admittedly I am much less invested in UB beyond first clear

[worthy horizon]

he apparently has gimmick check for ubs but i'm not well-versed enough to really know

[inner turret]

tosakinto thinks he's ss mina 2
which is very bold to say but we'll see ??

[rotund rain]

Tbf a lot of things about Milo is kinda strange

[true tartan]

guess he'll just max invest him and showcase that

[sturdy steeple]

extremely bold to say lol

[rotund rain]

Like how he doesn’t have interaction dialogue

[true tartan]

but that's still, full SA investment lol

[inner turret]

he already max invested lol

[pearl beacon]

Btw checked his kit only now, no custom cookie, pointless awakening,
Why all my huge favs sucks damn

[raven crane]

I kinda see what they're going for, but only really in double Support teams I feel.

[sturdy steeple]

and ssace is better in double support teams...

[raven crane]

His defensive buffing is so damn slow, which kinda sucks with being a "Nita counter" since his Buddy Move doesn't buff the defenses.

[true tartan]

who knows, people make some units work with different strats

[sturdy steeple]

you can always make units work

[raven crane]

I feel that's the bar.

[true tartan]

but if it uses any Arc Suit, I can't say I'd be impressed haha...

the fairy team was impressive because of the composition, but nowadays that Fairy Team possibly have even higher output from SA lol

[raven crane]

Every character has tools to make them work, look at Flint carrying being carried against Thorton, lul. Just Milo's case is a lot less severe then that.

[raven crane]

Cries in no SS Gladion.