the thing is that SS Morty was already a sun setter unit with a lot of his kit built around it lol
#Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)
lost juniper
and no extensions... so him getting Field was perfect
10/5 gave him that extention
true tartan
if they gave him Sprint, that would've been a complete waste
worthy horizon
outside of lg the variance is too much to order for me
sturdy steeple
if they gave him Sprint, that would've been a complete waste
Kris,,,,,
true tartan
10/5 gave him that extention
but that happened way later, we didn't even knew that'd be a thing
dawn plume
ss kris why
true tartan
Kris,,,,,
Kris had potential, but guess they wanted to make her to abuse her Sync Burst
lost juniper
I guess they did it cause in their eyes she already gets a guaranteed mpr
true tartan
as she always have 3 rains 
sturdy steeple
Sigh
true tartan
which is sad, no extensions either
worthy horizon
i've definitely grown into ss kris sprint
tight rivet
ss kris really shouldve gotten field
i mean even besides the thematic thing they had going on
ss ethan field was a choice
worthy horizon
in lg the terrakion solo would be much better with field but idk what else would be tbh
true tartan
Nate lol
true tartan
and now N
dawn plume
oh yeah
tight rivet
oh
errant plume
Akari
true tartan
she is Field Strike
dawn plume
think they meant specifically strike w field cake
true tartan
not Strike Field 
sturdy steeple
in lg the terrakion solo would be much better with field but idk what else would...
Everything would've been easier with field
tight rivet
strike base with field exr
dawn plume
its ok guys. the REAL best johto support/field pair is coming later this month 
🪈
sturdy steeple
Bugs e
sturdy steeple
Is kinda true tho
true tartan
it is, my "issue" is how many bug types are in johto lol
rotund rain
I’m actually wondering how bug is now doing with H.Bugsy
dawn plume
he has good team healing but doesnt offer a lot of stat buffs, but being supp/field is already very good
sturdy steeple
Gonna be even better with more bug circle users
true tartan
all Bug types from Johto are... Bugsy, and physical
rotund rain
Support/Field is such a rare combo to come by
sturdy steeple
It being Johto is just a waste of a region but
If it was unova then now we're talking
true tartan
that's my only "issue" lol
sturdy steeple
Holiday burgh save us
true tartan
yeah, Unova has most bug units
rotund rain
Zeen’s favourite
true tartan
and 2 of them as poke fair
inner turret
It being Johto is just a waste of a region but
it's why they made it
Like why ss lear is so good, it's because he got no one to buff his circle
sturdy steeple
Well no it's because he's got 2 op passives to make up for the lack of pasio units
That's actually what makes his circle good
rotund rain
Yep
dawn plume
feel like bugsy's circle is just an excuse to limit his b move
tight rivet
it is
dawn plume
👀
sturdy steeple
Or just bianca + any current bug pokefairs
Wow no alder awakening yet just realized
tight rivet
ss hilbert
tight rivet
Wow no alder awakening yet just realized
not like it would help
unless he got like shuddering snarl
dawn plume
alder 🤝 gloria
no superawakening OR ex role
sturdy steeple
Poor them
true tartan
SS Hilbert should be able to do Cobalion and Entei
tight rivet
from one of those champion selects
true tartan
at full SA
tight rivet
then i hated his ass so hard that i gave up on him
sturdy steeple
SS Hilbert should be able to do Cobalion and Entei
That'd be epic
true tartan
the anon runner got pretty far with 6/5
just won't invest more because they wanted to get Tornadus... which mostly needed Speed lol
lost juniper
I wonder if 6/5 SS N could finally get Regirock and Registeel
true tartan
I... can get my hands into a full 10/5 SS N...
lost juniper
10/5 is likely possible but not sure if 6/5 can
true tartan
but won't* just yet haha...
true tartan
like, yeah, dude will nuke the f out of Registeel at 10/5, dunno if his damage control can go that far tho haha
lost juniper
He probably can. The bulk is a bigger issue
sturdy steeple
Doesn't even need extra energy
Or at least the 2 extra energy from 4/5
Just super malva gambling
rocky oasis
my malva is still 0/5
dawn plume
i got 1 (one) copy of chuck when going for adaman, don't have the other two yet
rocky oasis
for some reason her and trevor aint showing up in my rolls
i need those 2 + one more ryuki
idk if ill ever see chuck
river cliff
Idk if I care if I ever get chuck lol
inner turret
i got 1 (one) copy of chuck when going for adaman, don't have the other two yet
I legit forgot Chuck was in the game
That's how forgettable his kit is
rocky oasis
uh his kit isnt the worst i guess?
idk what else you can say about him
like if he shows up in my rolls i have another duo fodder
dawn plume
+6 accuracy rock smashes are good against latias i suppose
rocky oasis
he's self sufficient at 1/5
and he brings confusion for uxie
he smacks things hard like bea w/o the evasion solos or surivability
Thats it
brisk sapphire
Anyone found any new Rei solos? Or is it not too realistic
dawn plume
its not super realistic
all the ones he can't do rn are ones that have damage reduction he can't counter
brisk sapphire
Sad
dawn plume
having one fighting zone used super early isn't enough to counter terrakion
dawn plume
all the ones he can't do rn are ones that have damage reduction he can't counter
- and also moltres lol
moltres might be the most reasonable actually
which is a sentence
dawn plume
ooo
brisk sapphire
I need to flinch everything on Bar 3 it looks like 
dawn plume
unless he can permaflinch cobalion and terrakion i think moltres is the next most likely one he has
brisk sapphire
This is now my ingame mission
dawn plume
that 400 bp b move is kinda nice
inner turret
If Palmer can get Cobalion surely Rei can
dawn plume
hmm
inner turret
(Ok Palmer hasnt got Cobalion yet but it was so close we know it's possible)
brisk sapphire
I grabbed Catalyctic Cure but I'll try that one
I haven't made an attempt at Cobalion but I can certainly try
dawn plume
yeah taking time to heal sucks cuz moltres will just unflinch and do that damage back
ss steven has that same problem
thats why his solo sucks so much
inner turret
Just wait for the SA
Steven could have so many different things for SA it's not even funny
brisk sapphire
Imagine his fills the entire screen because he has 3 passives for each form
worthy horizon
could be on different screens if that was the case
raw perch
Randomly wondering if ss acerola has gotten torn or cress yet
inner turret
Realistically, I think he gets 1 passive related to each form, but he has them on all forms
brisk sapphire
Does he have something on his grid that requires external teammates to be useable
tight rivet
team viral hustle brainpower and uh terrain extension
tight rivet
Does he have something on his grid that requires external teammates to be useabl...
not really afaik
brisk sapphire
blazing lindenBOT
inner turret
Does he have something on his grid that requires external teammates to be useabl...
Not really but Disarm on non-Normal is pretty much the case
brisk sapphire
Huh okay
tight rivet
why is pep rally on speed and not defense
that couldve made defense form actually usable
(yes i know why but its still annoying)
inner turret
Defense form is literally just a tank it's kinda sad
tight rivet
its not a good support
cuz it completely kills gauge
pep rally wouldve helped cough
blazing lindenBOT
Lucian & Girafarig
tight rivet
see this would make def form a lot easier to use
also wow thats still only on lucian
crazy
dawn plume
Randomly wondering if ss acerola has gotten torn or cress yet
zero chance she gets torn unfortunately
she cant take that many hurricanes
cress i won't write off
tight rivet
i mean
if you get
like
absurdly good gears
with actually good stats
it could be possible
but like
lol skill gears
hallow gull
Remember god gears that Sycamore used against Tor
raw perch
zero chance she gets torn unfortunately
oh dang
tight rivet
i mean
raw perch
yeah i didnt want to try and roll for like 30 percent dr on grassy
dawn plume
she only has special dr under sun, which she would need to burn on bar 1 to override the rain that tornadus sets
if she can get to bar 3 i dont see how she lives that many hurricanes
kind imp
oh dang
She can duo it with lodge sycamore at least, which is pretty cool
https://youtu.be/5SmNS9kS34w
tight rivet
she only has special dr under sun, which she would need to burn on bar 1 to over...
oh they didnt give her sunny day mpr
disgusting
i always forget that
dawn plume
nope
same issue as ss mina
the superawakening extended her weather... but still only 2 uses
raw perch
Cress I can try to do
It’ll just take a lot of rng
Cus I don’t have status immunity cookie
So I’ll have to use defense crush
tight rivet
dont you have to avoid toxic regardless
raw perch
And to try and pull through with paralysis rng
sturdy steeple
its not a good support
I used defense form vs thorton before and it was a fun tank to use that debuffed offenses with disarm and did some decent chip damage with psycho boost
dawn plume
tornadus only uses toxic if you paralyze it
tight rivet
man what did you even use cuz gauge with def is like an actual nightmare
tight rivet
tornadus only uses toxic if you paralyze it
i meant on cress
because they gave her that too
vgc accuracy mf
dawn plume
oh well it uses it on bar 2
sturdy steeple
There's three units to a team, it's in the doc if you wanna see
raw perch
Couldn’t I just use antitoxin or smth
tight rivet
cuz you get forced into a timer
raw perch
Nevermind actually
Probably just best to use defense crush
And to try and survive whilst paralyzed
raw perch
I hate this game I have 0 3 star cookies and a lot of my units don’t have cs2
it took me 60 cookies to get defense crush 2
no im not joking
its a 9 percent chance to get it mind you
worthy horizon
lithe lucky skill + antitoxin on grid is the equivalent of status immunity
guessing that might be the most preferable option
not that dc2 would hurt to have for many other situations
raw perch
i still would need defense crush 2 for stat debuffing tho right
worthy horizon
try out what you have first
raw perch
ok
currently im just getting skill gear
I think this would be fine enough?
14 percent dr on grassy
worthy horizon
11% is just blocking grass damage
raw perch
Yeah don’t think i read that
Yeah i probably should fix that
My condolences, I’ve never used skill gears before
raw perch
Oh this should work
worthy horizon
yeah that one's good
true tartan
worthy horizon
can go much higher if you need further upgrades
raw perch
Yeah it turned into 9 percent fixing things
I could go higher but I don’t really feel like doing so rn
worthy horizon
don't need to
more important to use what you have first to get a sense of if you need more or not
brisk sapphire
My gears aren't that much good, but I guess I'll try to roll for atk rolls for Rei?
This is vs Moltres btw
raw perch
Hmm ok attempt 1
worthy horizon
yeah for moltres and with flinch you want max dmg
worthy horizon
lithe should get you more distance at least
brisk sapphire
I'll attempt some rolls later
raw perch
Yeah
Lithe should help
Tho now I don’t have first aid which isn’t the best
New grid
Pep rally so I don’t have to rely on 3 tm mprs
And cus I’m not sure what else to really put on
worthy horizon
that looks good
raw perch
Gauge was a bit of an issue in bar 1 but not in bar 2
worthy horizon
you can trade a few stat tiles for the sync tile for dmg output
raw perch
Ok so attempt 2
Things I noticed
Don’t need mpr much honestly
Gauge isn’t an issue with lithe anymore and I can totally just run +2 fine
I’d probably still want an mpr anyways for icy wind
Only thing tho is that the gradual healing just completely negates any damage I do
And that’s not great
raw perch
Yeah
I have to outstall that
My idea is to just use sunny day when I get to bar 2
So it isn’t hurting me as much
I think I could grid sunscreen 1 to help that
Or I could get safety tether + sync node
worthy horizon
yeah
raw perch
i think the saftety tether metho should work better
tried the first and yeah i need the damage
Yeah I don’t think it’s doable not without status immunity
worthy horizon
alright, thanks for attempting
brisk sapphire
Unless a JP player beat me to it, I'll try to report on Rei vs Moltres this week
raw perch
im gonna try another run with pep rally
im slowly figuring out things
until bar 3 just obliterates me with hyper beam
brisk sapphire
It sucks we don't have LG this month
raw perch
yeh
brisk sapphire
You could have had rolled it
raw perch
i really need status immunity
forced to run antitoxin sucks hard
yeah same result
Stuck on bar 2
Yeah I don’t think 10/5 allows her to do it
Unless you have like
Insane gears
And status immunity
Also something I figured out
Every time cress uses energy ball, that heals her cus of terrain
So uh yeah that sucks
kind imp
Only thing tho is that the gradual healing just completely negates any damage I ...
Iirc it's 8 ticks of 6,25%=50%
worthy horizon
it is exactly that yes
raw perch
I think it could be doable if you have status immunity + cracked skill hears
Because you need to somehow stall out cress on bar 2
Or just outheal the damage
This is probably the most optimal grid running status immunity
Why did I say antitoxin I can’t type today lol
sturdy steeple
Good effort regardless 
true tartan
what are you trying :T
gleaming cypress
mfw we are too poor to 10/5 so we start asking for non LG players with 10/5 units to help do solos
raw perch
what are you trying :T
Ss acerola cress solo
It’s uh
Highly improbable to be possible
You’d need status immunity + cracked skill gears to have a chance at surviving bar 2
worthy horizon
bar 3 won't be getting any easier either
raw perch
Nope
I’d imagine even if you somehow managed to survive bar 2
How are you going to survive bar 3
Considering you probably need both sunny day usages to survive bar 2
hallow gull
Bar 3 cress also spams special move
worthy horizon
perfect skill gear might not make it through bar 1 tornadus either
raw perch
Torn is already ruled out to be impossible
I’m not sure if we can rule out cress just yet
But it seems likely that’ll have to be the case
hallow gull
Yeah, rn physical pair that go through Cress either can tank special well enough or just oneshot bar 3 even with 80% dmg reduces
If only her SA worked with Grassy Terrain instead of Sun
worthy horizon
yeah
true tartan
?
true tartan
I've done that, many times lol
raw perch
Easy question to answer
dawn plume
i'm p sure all 14 arenas have full eggmon teams
dawn plume
oh is moltres still moltresing
dawn plume
that makes sense tbh
raw perch
Latias huh
dawn plume
those sides are brutal
gleaming cypress
y’all record those too? interesting
worthy horizon
we don't have 2 eggmons vs latios yet do we
raw perch
Yeah I don’t think they specialize in debuffing anyway
dawn plume
if you have no dps to take them out quickly enough
true tartan
Entei, Registeel, Tapu Bulu, Raikou, Azelf, Terrakion, Tornadus, Cobalion, Latios and Regirock
dawn plume
i remember the terrakion one
that one was super impressive
striker slowbro goated...
these clears are actually slightly easier now that pasio theme skills exist 
true tartan
yup
raw perch
I think honestly
Ss acerola Duo should be possible
She just needs to be paired with anyone that can debuff special attack I assume
worthy horizon
she has no spdef buffs it looks like so if you can stick support pory/starmie on for +6 spdef she should get the remaining two?
raw perch
i was looking at the ss acerola azelf solo
true tartan
you did the run? lol
raw perch
no
trick rosa did
didnt expect me to be there
why would you consider that my name is froppy ew
true tartan
lol
worthy horizon
xd
vital ibex
what has dc cheren done so far
vital ibex
latios entei?
true tartan
latios bulu lol
vital ibex
ooh
true tartan
entei is a bit more tricky haha
vital ibex
i feel he can do cresselia
just has to nuke bar 3
i might take a crack at some more solos w him tomorrow since i have him 3/5
dawn plume
he aint a sleep unit tho...
yeah both his solos were done 2/5
i think having an actual nuke at 3/5 could make something work...
true tartan
ah sorry, evasion unit* lol
I was distracted with the egg clears which mostly consist on that haha...
worthy horizon
i feel like entei raikou cresselia are viable
gleaming cypress
have we tried arc leon for registeel and rock
how does he match up against those
worthy horizon
even potentially latias...
kind imp
just has to nuke bar 3
Isn't the hard part the first bar?
worthy horizon
it is but special dark has the advantage of clearing the second two with ease
so it becomes mostly just bar 1
dawn plume
super infliction trust
vital ibex
dawn plume
might want x sp atk mpr for max brainpower nuke
but would need extra energy
can try without first
hallow gull
I think if you can go through bar 1, you should be set
vital ibex
actually i just realized cress buffs accuracy and he cant get rid of that
maybe this wont be as easy as i thought
hallow gull
Yeah, you cant nuke 50% Cress that early
vital ibex
i already made him +2 lol
worthy horizon
o lol
worthy horizon
62
vital ibex
oh i was looking at the wrong tile lol
also i just got a run where i got 5 tm mprs
but he didnt dodge nor ridicule proc
sobs
brisk sapphire
true tartan
damn lol
bitter gate
can Brendan do it?
also update the clown nose pin
the pin here's been oudated for a while lel
kind imp
And also the main pin still saying lg 11's guaranteed cookie
vital ibex
ok yea cheren on cress is like insane tier difficulty but not impossible i wanna say
theres just too much you wanna do at the start
fish for tm mpr, raise eva, or debuff cress
all of which you gotta do eventually but the one you start with matters a lot
median swan
ok yea cheren on cress is like insane tier difficulty but not impossible i wanna...
are you using brainpower, coz i was flip-flopping between that and super infliction
bitter gate
are you using brainpower, coz i was flip-flopping between that and super inflict...
SI won't give more output regardless I'm sure
unless you can run both
median swan
the grid i'm using gives up brainpower for si and mind games
median swan
but tbh i gave up on that coz it's so difficult lol
i'm trying latias instead which is also hell but at least i've gotten to bar 3 several times
bitter gate
but tbh i gave up on that coz it's so difficult lol
grid?
Yeah, I just checked, Brainpower will do more regardless, just it splits grid positioning
it's about 30ish% stronger?
Assuming Brainpower build doesn't afford Mind Games
SI + Mind Games is stronger than just Brainpower
Since Cress has no mitigation
bitter gate
It's also a matter of grid cost
Brainpower can take all of MPR/Mind Games/Lithe/Ridicure, but you need +8
median swan
how does brainpower + si compare haha
inner turret
Or just +2 for that yeah
bitter gate
- at the same time, if you're playing with only +4 spA
brainpower will lose to SI Mind Games regardless
because it's just 2/3rds
bitter gate
SI + brainpower is stronger than Mind Games + SI
but not by that much
barely 5%
or less
median swan
it needs +6 spa?
bitter gate
yeah, but you need to fish 2 MPRs
median swan
ughh and the setup is already long enough as is
bitter gate
Again the difference doesn't matter too much
as such that I think I'd prefer Mind Games/SI
Since SI is non negotiable due to its positioning near Lithe/Ridicure
and that you're getting diminished brainpower value anyway
median swan
hmm alright
i'm still pretty determined on latias lol so i'll leave that up to gommy
ridicure is such a bs passive tho
bitter gate
the rate on ridicure in particular
I think it ties with Chase and Bianca's ridicure rates?
as evasion units
Phoebe and Falkner have a coinflip rate, but they have no innate evasion and just dodge so
if only they were more willing to give ridicure 9 lol
like UB morg
median swan
it's gonna be someone's 10/5 next batch
bitter gate
Hau is the only realistic canditate
because he's the only remaining unawakened unit with evasion
median swan
ss silver in shambles
(but tbh neither of them need it since they already have sustain lol)
bitter gate
i keep forgetting he has uhh
the strike iteration
I thought he jsut debuffs and grinds without using it tbh
maybe wally will get it
because accuracy drops
I do think they are designing stuff in a way that they give some check universality
The WTZers that have no passive healing have some form of TM healing
median swan
i have such astronomical expectations for best boy's 10/5 that i already know whatever they give is gonna disappoint me
bitter gate
Wally might just get fairy zone healing or something
median swan
but he needs some form of sustain
median swan
sentry entry 3
bitter gate
Or just get something simple like Unforf
bitter gate
sentry entry 3 <:SabrinaPray:637919291777482753>
even terrify 3 would be good tbh
bitter gate
i have such astronomical expectations for best boy's 10/5 that i already know wh...
I also feel this for Anabel
except she's actually a "bad" unit
median swan
i think she'll get normal zone stuff
bitter gate
and Raihan is the only MAX design so far that hasn't fumbled the bag
lol
Well, Ingo as well I suppose
median swan
a2gloria's is honestly really fun if it was on any unit other than a2gloria lol
bitter gate
I don't need much for 12 kills
team fist bump is enough for moltres, terrakion and tornadus
any form of reliable ping healing
Latias I can only do if they either let me sack FT or give her some debuffs
Cresselia is a different beast entirely, mostly because evasion is a pain in the ass
median swan
she'll get precision pals
bitter gate
my biggest fear is if they just make her fully MAX centric
like Rose and Classic Red
it means their window of power is extremely bottlnecked
if I'm allowed to be greedy on Anabel tho, I want Leon/Marnie passive
MP Rekindle 2
Anabel would love that
median swan
probably not coz it'll render her max move near useless lol
bitter gate
it just adds a layer of consistency, wouldn't call it useless since that's where her healing is
but infinite TM and protects will probably give her a comfortable 14
median swan
my biggest wish for wally outside of sustain is a way for him to use his b move a second time
but realistically i'm just expecting another head start 1 lmao
bitter gate
but realistically i'm just expecting another head start 1 lmao
watch them give him sync burst just to troll him
"we'll give you a second dazzling gleam...but only if you use another mega on your team"
worthy horizon
any more sync accel would just be a meme at this point
i think they'll avoid that
bitter gate
which is scary because most of the WTZ units got ramp on their WTZ setting
except Cyrus
median swan
watch them give him sync burst just to troll him
it's honestly crossed my mind and tbh it's not a bad buff since it would also affect his tm and zone but come on dena
median swan
What if Wally straight up gets Adrenaline 4
that gif of wally getting to sync countdown immediately can finally be done on his own
brisk sapphire
Actually. What boost would you want him to have
median swan
fairy zone hp recovery, sync burst but for the second sync lol, third can be a wildcard but i'd like fairy zone dr or sentry entry
realistically he's gonna get an offensive buff tho so idk something SyUN related like base gardevoir?
bitter gate
fairy zone hp recovery, sync burst but for the second sync lol, third can be a w...
or just conditional wording
"restores MP to B move if the MP is 0 when doing x"
they can just add that nuance, because they're also just adding non precedented effects here and there
inner turret
Buddy Refresh 1
refreshes buddy move mp the 1st time it's used
median swan
even better, b move mpr 9 
worthy horizon
matters a lot less outside lg and dc specifically
but even in lg you can apply rebuff to every bar
bitter gate
and debuff more reliably
worthy horizon
yep
bitter gate
wally isn't a very good attack debuffer after all
toxic kernel
Dream big and ask for extended sync for ss Wally
rocky oasis
28 PFs w/o SA rn
so at least theyre coming out quick
only ones who really NEED the boost rn are gloria and raihan bc theyre dogshit
bitter gate
dogshit in general or
rocky oasis
idk how to fix them besides giving them infinite BOGO
chrome halo
eh 5/5 Gloria is nowhere close to dogshit
bitter gate
- she only needs like
chrome halo
Raihan sure is
rocky oasis
a cake aint fixing glorias issues
rotund rain
Gloria isn’t too bad when invested
aside from her being the only PF pair without a LG solo
rocky oasis
idk if a cake + sa can fix her
rotund rain
I’ll be surprised if she gets one LG solo
worthy horizon
with cake and 10/5 i'd be shocked if she didn't
ss lysandre and n both went from 0 to 4
rotund rain
Yep
rocky oasis
i mean if she gets a SA like ss reds that aint doing shit for her
dena is smoking some good shit
im fine w/ gioking as he is
he could use some gauge and bulk and dmg options but hes ok
you can say the same for every unit tho
i kimda want him to get regirock
like for duo regi hes amazing
being able to ohko bar 2 is so satisfying
he needs a little smth more for solo
bitter gate
i mean if she gets a SA like ss reds that aint doing shit for her
SS Red's isn't even that much more different than Lysandre's tbf, the issue is that SS Red as a base unit is just good at output and ramp
and even drops his own defenses on top of that
As the first offensive PF he has no defensive designs at all and was geared to just kill shit fast, and they didn't really aim to address that beyond "the best defense is a good offense"
"kill or be killed"
rocky oasis
tbf if it was diantha level of unga bunga DMG MULTIPLIER BOOST i wouldve loved it
bitter gate
Yeah, but Diantha was seen as a very bad unit for th emajority of the game's history while SS Red was glazed and was king of the hill for some time
which is probbaly why they decided Diantha needed more help
and Red just needed less
lost juniper
As the first offensive PF he has no defensive designs at all and was geared to j...
Would've worked if they leaned into it more but unlike Lysandre or even N he doesn't have a lot of burst damage and his defenses are bad
bitter gate
- when you consider Arc Leon they probably don't want their PFs to suddenly be better versions of their moneymaker
inner turret
Yeah, but Diantha was seen as a very bad unit for th emajority of the game's his...
today red is king of nothing lol
he gets worse by the days
bitter gate
he was only king for about what
half of year 1?
by year 2 he was starting to fall off
rocky oasis
i think we are getting anni n or steven for january
bitter gate
Would've worked if they leaned into it more but unlike Lysandre or even N he doe...
N mostly gets by with PB/paralysis even if he lacked it
Lysandre has the burned down tile, wihch is also important to stomach hits
I also reckon if they gave Red HE he could've done Cob
rocky oasis
anni n and steven are the only MFs w/o roles btw and those gotta come at some point
lost juniper
N mostly gets by with PB/paralysis even if he lacked it
That is also true, but N's awakening gave him a huge multiplier and burst damage potential with bolt strikes
Field EX R only made it better
lost juniper
anni n and steven are the only MFs w/o roles btw and those gotta come at some po...
Yes please. N pretty much need just the EX R to solo Tornadus and likely Uxie too
bitter gate
Yeah, I'm talking more about their base designs
as even if you gave Red Diantha or N's superawakenings
I don't think he does more than 2 or 3 anyway
because his base kit lacks any compensatory utility beyond "i ramp"
which was also the only resaon why he cleared Latios
lol
rocky oasis
Nothing wrong w/ a beatstick tbf
bitter gate
People hate him because he's just a beatstick
it may have worked in the past, now it doesn't
rocky oasis
but what if we made him a BIG beatstick
bitter gate
also, still waiting for Anni Skyla to get the Moltres kill
rocky oasis
lol the jp whales are insane
bitter gate
i'd do it but I'd rather wait for Anabel first
that and maybe try 14 with torn
requires stupid MPR luck, I imagine
rocky oasis
i think the sa should let her queue a flinch after wish
if it works like i think it does
bitter gate
depending on the gamemode what I want is different
but for LG specifically I want TFB
that alone solves a lot of problems
inner turret
what's tfb
bitter gate
Team First Bump
or even Tierno passive
that's fine too
it means I can run aggravation alongside crit and CA, while also not sacking healing
inner turret
so active healing
bitter gate
yeah
that she has to run a very shittily placed Synchro Healing atm is a pain in the ass
and having that one passive alone secures me Terrakion, Moltres and Tornadus
with Terrakion being the easiest
rocky oasis
i dont have her and kinda dont wanna grab her off a select
Bc she kinda needs 5/5 as is
bitter gate
so active healing
that and I mentioned MP Rekindle 2
inner turret
lol
bitter gate
but if I had to pick, giving her twofer
inner turret
it's even better than screen extension
bitter gate
like if she gets even a single debuff passive
I can also do Latias
or if her gauge is fixed
inner turret
Can't she already do it if she gets any healing
bitter gate
her gauge is shit without FT
inner turret
if pal bea can
rocky oasis
iirc mo rekindle is the thing marnie has
inner turret
ah
inner turret
iirc mo rekindle is the thing marnie has
also leon
bitter gate
meaning she can't run DC/Mind Games reliably
the only reason I managed to do it against Registeel
is because I wasn't running synchro healing
inner turret
+30 speed from gears and x1.1 from 6/5 is enough trust
inner turret
"max move: normal zone"
bitter gate
"max move: normal zone" <:TabithaHehe:998042781375275158>
that's personally fine
not ideal for LG but I wouldn't hate it
just please don't make every passive a max passive
I'd be really upset if they did that to her
they already did it to rose
inner turret
Max Move refresh 1
bitter gate
...actually
tbh
why did I succeed against Registeel
and not Latias
probably because I needed more healing?
but I could try again, I guess
I think it's because of the fuckin uhh
mud slap drop
and the tilt about even hitting her after that
that made me just stop it lol
since missing also means you lose MGR
worthy horizon
happens to get an easy bar 1, one tm + 2 steam eruptions + 1 b move clears
inner turret
latios + latias + raikou
9 opponents at once
karmic willow
hmmm
interesting
still
i want to see more raid modes
like
this game still needs to grow it's community aspect more
like back during the kyogre groudon event
karmic willow
yeah
it's still pve if we do raids
if it's pvp though
i'd imagine
triple impervious from the get-go
one of them has piercing blows because ignoring defensive passives like vigilance, sterner stuff and MF passives are huge
the meta would look pretty weird tbh
if that happens though
then i'd say that dragon, steel and ground is NOT that good yet
defensive rebuffs are a thing that only benefit mirror matches
i'd argue N is probably one of the meta ones
inner turret
the meta would be ss lyra + ss cyrus vs pairs with both unflappable (or interf immu) and wide awake (or status immu)
brisk sapphire
PvP? Oh hell naw
karmic willow
the meta would be ss lyra + ss cyrus vs pairs with both unflappable (or interf i...
eri
chrome halo
karmic willow
though she is kind of
bad
defensively
urgh
then there is the question of how targeting works
karmic willow
defensively
like if pvp happens though
piercing blows + crit would ignore defense buffs entirelyh
so
I'd say defensive circle is the meta
it's the ONLY one that reliably reduces damage
So baseline you have Eri
and then one of them needs to have pblow imperv
so N, Anni Lillie or Solgaleo
3rd one idk
i might be in the wrong here
vital ibex
are you using brainpower, coz i was flip-flopping between that and super inflict...
Sorry went to bed, ya
But yea super infliction might actually be better since its in an easier spot
covert geode
Twitter
dawn plume
he got really close yesterday lol good to see he got it
bruteforcing with no piercing blows or status is really funny
lost juniper
Gotta love crush grip having quick animation
bitter gate
you sure he can do moltres?
inner turret
Sure? No. But I think he could
brisk sapphire
Question
Does Moltres randomly heal flinch instantly
Or is there a mechanic there
shy sinew
Once it hits lessen flinch 9 it’s reliable
inner turret
Lessen Flinch 9 makes it heal really fast
I don't remember if bar change has the instant heal or not
lost juniper
Pretty sure it does
brisk sapphire
Hmmm I see
rotund rain
I think it does
inner turret
According to my ss ingo solo it doesn't
i flinched on bar 2 entry -> used confuse ray and it didnt unflinch
dawn plume
i remember having issues w moltres unflinching faster than expected on bar 3
but maybe that was placebo
brisk sapphire
I am having a problem right now
It's not that it was fast
it was insta queue
Like, it feels Moltres did not flinch at all
I can check it out, but that means I have to look at the currently hundred failed runs and find which one has it
Okay my last two runs did it
loud shell
I was just having that issue with Grant and moltres 15 minutes ago with auto heal flinch
brisk sapphire
I could just (begrudgingly) accept if it's random, but if not, I'm curious how and why lol
inner turret
In the 2nd vid you could've queue'd if you had the gauge for it
In the 1st vid too you could've queue'd you just didnt click
Lessen Flinch 9 doesn't give you any time to think, you HAVE to click
brisk sapphire
Oh in the first I was showing how fast Moltres flinches
tight rivet
Lessen Flinch 9 doesn't give you any time to think, you HAVE to click
so basically skillissue.mp4
inner turret
well not really
brisk sapphire
Since there are times where I clicked too fast that Moltres recovered before I queue up a 3rd move
inner turret
in the 2nd vid he could've queue'd if he had the gauge only because MGR proc'd
if no passive procs, you don't get the window because Moltres heals during the move
brisk sapphire
But there are times it recovered too fast even before the 2nd registered
gleaming cypress
how far have you gotten with the solo so far @brisk sapphire
inner turret
yeah you need a passive to proc
brisk sapphire
57% on Bar 3
tight rivet
yeah you need a passive to proc
oh so tjats why lyra is so good
inner turret
yes
inner turret
she enables her own queue window
tight rivet
cuz shes guaranteed the instaqueue with ruthless
inner turret
with hassling hit itself
brisk sapphire
I'm running flameproof... should I not???
tight rivet
same with ss cyrus right
inner turret
Nah I think you should
gleaming cypress
was just asking
inner turret
Unless you think you can beat bar 2 without getting hit
inner turret
same with ss cyrus right
yup
brisk sapphire
Oh okay
tight rivet
with hassling hit itself
oh
gleaming cypress
flameproof gives some wiggle room with flinches
inner turret
except for him it's bad break
brisk sapphire
Unless you think you can beat bar 2 without getting hit
Not a chance
gleaming cypress
yeah you need to high roll triple arrows 5 times to get to bar 3
and flinch every time
brisk sapphire
So basically for me "just mash button until everything clicks" got it
tight rivet
bad break is the debuff right
brisk sapphire
10/5
tight rivet
and now im realizing why staggering is preferred to aggravation
inner turret
send your grid again please?
inner turret
and now im realizing why staggering is preferred to aggravation
yup yup lol
brisk sapphire
I'll attempt until I do it, or until a JP player beat me to it
I'm using the grid you gave me
gleaming cypress
even JP players dont have infinite yellow candies
brisk sapphire
Unless it was not you I was talking earlier lol
inner turret
I didnt give you any grid
brisk sapphire
hold on
inner turret
It was someone else
gleaming cypress
whats the DR on the gears lookin like
brisk sapphire
Actually my gears kind of suck, but from what I understand, I need full offense gear as opposed to DR?
inner turret
You probably want offense yes
tight rivet
oh
i just remembered
they never fixed rei
so if you want aggravation to work you need oar too
inner turret
Aggravation? Did they really never fix it? damn
brisk sapphire
tight rivet
QA has left the building
rotund rain
I thought it got fixed eventually
brisk sapphire
which feathers again focus on moves
tight rivet
i want to say red
brisk sapphire
I have a lot of points so I can get some on BR shop
inner turret
+feathers
worn skiffBOT
Skill Feathers Classification:
Red Feather: Focus on Move damage Passives.
Pink Feather: Focus on Sync Moves damage Passives.
Blue Feather: Focus on Defensive Passives.
Green Feather: Mix of Red/Pink/Blue with added focus on Status & Interference Passives.
Purple Feather: Mix of Red/Pink/Blue with added focus on Weather passives.
White Feather: Mix of everything with bigger focus on Type Themes but with lesser stats.
Yellow Feather: Mix of everything with no particular focus.
Rainbow Feather: Fixed stats & passives tailor made for a specific pair.
brisk sapphire
Perfect
tight rivet
oh wow i was right
kind imp
if pal bea can
Pal bea has hail dmg
hallow gull
Good luck on Rei solo 
brisk sapphire
hallow gull
You need to be fast
Bc few more day i’ll get enough coins to 10/5 someone and maybe i’ll choose Rei
brisk sapphire
quaint tartan
Im patiently waiting last batch hoping they don’t mess with sssteven 
inner turret
yeah you want to be hitting the half bar while it's flinched
so you can flinch it after the half bar
river cliff
All I want is for Paulo to get dust kicker on his sa
He could probably beat everything but cress with that
dawn plume
Uh-oh! Oh no!
brisk sapphire
That's it for me today. My hands hurt
inner turret
Lol nice
brisk sapphire
At this rate I'd definitely need KFC 
true tartan
while owl is suffering
dawn plume
bird masters ex
brisk sapphire
bright brook
bright brook
heavy sinew
Lewa
true tartan
5 more runs for superawakening to reach 100 lol
unless people lower some to 5/5 or under
bright brook
I actually have one more but i wont be home till later
true tartan
true tartan
invert 👀
worthy horizon
oh ok ss lysandre should get azelf, just need a run with coin flip heat wave burn on bar 3 and a bunch of avoiding debuffs
and both 50% crits on bar 2
so lot of coin flips to win
true tartan
it is always fun to rely on that huh
worthy horizon
very
dawn plume
ss piers is gaming
bitter gate
Did he get more?
bitter gate
I'm surprised Bulu is out of the question
He should be able to do it
Possibly Entei and Azelf too
dawn plume
actually bulu kinda hard counters him
it will get rid of his electric terrain
and he can only set it twice
he's VERY reliant on it
bitter gate
Ik, but he can fast kill first two bars no
Also if he had piercing gaze he would probably get cresselia too
dawn plume
even if he did make it to bar 3 idk what he does about wood hammer
no electric terrain so he has no nuke
he cant dodge it
dawn plume
i think registeel is more likely than azelf or entei
worthy horizon
would "just" need to survive this crit swift to win
maybe 0 spdef debuffs or god gear
that was -1 spdef -2 def
i'd need over 91 more health than i did there
wise raven
ss lys strongest soldier 
tight rivet
ok i have 3/5 exr sina
if anything sounds possible without rolling ridiculous gear id be open to it
kind imp
She has 10 solos and only Latios isn't 5/5 exr
Sounds lowerable
Just have to dodge
I'd guess Entei could be fine?
0 freeze resistance
Note that he gets +3 crit in bar 2.5 and in bar 3 gets piercing gaze, opens with he10 heat wave and summons sun in the half bar which prevents freeze
true tartan
piss off
bitter gate
Superawakened or no
rocky oasis
Man ss n has his best option locked behind 5/5 and that kinda sucks
rocky oasis
Like mechanically that dmg reduction node is super unique
but i cant afford to invest 3 candys into him
worthy horizon
1/5 forever for me probably
true tartan
Cress seems like a possibility too
rocky oasis
i think his issue is gonna be the 80% phys dmg reduction
idk how much bulk sa gives him
bitter gate
Does Piercing Blows not ignore that or
he also has ice beam freezes I guess
as a mixed option
rocky oasis
wait it does
nvm
i forgot
i have a 6/5 steven and thats it
so how much bulk does sa actually give tech and striker
ok its 1.1x
idk how much of a difference that makes
brisk sapphire
There's something different I want to try with Rei vs Moltres. Hopefully it works
stuck mantle
Try roll maybe for some damage reduce gears or opposite way like on dc for more damage from moves/ sync always help in hard clears
brisk sapphire
I actually tried to roll some gears. It did not went well lol
final bloom
Twitter
gleaming cypress
para out of bar 3 wood hammer on lessen para 8…….
then you have to not miss clanging scales on the less half bar
all of this while hoping for no nat crits
it probably took him at least 100 resets for this solo
kind imp
They also had a zen headbutt miss
The need for the wood hammer para seems unplanned (oh it literally says that in the post )
It shouldn't be necessary if the clanging scales had finished bar 2 and then they got a half bar insta queue in bar 3
And there's also the sync crit rng
true tartan
yeah
they did the execution of "wait fro bar change, para and rush"
problem is that the damage wasn't enough in bar 2 lol
brisk sapphire
I think I found the strat I was looking for???
true tartan
for Rei?
true tartan
split bloom
sorry i had th app opened on my phone without looking at the screen lol
i was just confused by the twitter post calling it a paralysis bug
shy notch
I just need for the stars to align. Lol
LG players in a nutshell lol