makes him the best dc partner for red and chase, maybe
#Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)
inner turret
river cliff
Different until we someday get an ice/poison type
river cliff
Hm I pulled Hilda, I'd imagine she's got some good partner options at 1/5
true tartan
is it really level 135 lol
inner turret
how lmao
hallow gull
dawn plume
i run low on drinks sometimes too lol
shy sinew
got my Hilbert, now time to see what the other ticket has for me before I commit to a 3/5 with my select
shy notch
Had an idea for another sleep solo, but my phone is lagging so badly
true tartan
:T
vital ibex
calem got bulu too
sturdy steeple
by skinny
true tartan
ah, Calem Bulu yup
shy sinew
dang it appears that I need to become Calem’s strongest soldier
shy sinew
I’ll have to see what my last ticket brings me, it would pain me to leave a Sylveon at 2/5 but Hilbert and Hilda just seem like better uses of my select
true tartan
I've yet to actually pull for a eevee variety banner
I've thrown dailies in the past, but that's it
I got Selene like that past year, Kris this year, and my tickets have been Elio (past year) and now Selene lol
wonder what will I get this time 
shy notch
These syncs just don’t want to crit smh
dawn plume
cresselia’s signature technique, “no u”
stuck mantle
If crit would be around half bar then
true tartan
Sync didn’t crit in bar 3 again 😐
sync damage is x3 damage of what you get
lost juniper
If crit would be around half bar then
Nah without the crit it wouldn't ignore the sp. def raises as well as the special shield
lost juniper
Crit would probably win
hallow gull
true tartan
5221 not critting means it got reduced to half by the screen and the enemy stats are at x1.5
stuck mantle
Nah without the crit it wouldn't ignore the sp. def raises as well as the specia...
Lol nice melony mvp lg now after dc haha
true tartan
so, if it crits, the damage would've been x2 of shown (because no screen), x1.5 (because crit) and x1.5 because ignoring the defense increases
it would've been 31,326
so yep, pretty much winning the stage
lost juniper
Figured
true tartan
I didn't check that Cress had a +3 sp def, thought it was perfectly slept locked 
tender horizon
I cant believe they really just named Icy Healing as Use Move when Ice Zone:
karmic willow
wow
actually lost the 50/50
no new unit for me guys
because this game hates me
stuck mantle
I got dupe from free ticket too selene from 3/5 now 4/5😒
karmic willow
i swear to god i'm quitting if the next ticket fails to get me a new pair
50/50 alright
earlier quitting than EoS
dawn plume
I got dupe from free ticket too selene from 3/5 now 4/5😒
One Fear
stuck mantle
Next ticket in 2 updates
dawn plume
actually imma just pull rn rip off the bandaid
sigh could be worse
now its a 1/4 chance of the next ticket being a waste 💀
thick dawn
surely the gacha game will pull through just one more time cause that's how gacha's works
karmic willow
surely the gacha game will pull through just one more time cause that's how gach...
man
i'm jealous
like actually
you got everything 😦
karmic willow
where are the v hilda solos wtf
she got bulu
lol
i wanted her the most
and selene
thick dawn
i also wanted her the most but tbf vhilbert has somewhat surprised me
i remember seeing vcalem on datamine and hyping him up so hard I thought he was a new potential 12+ unit
then uh yeah the no fairy zone recovery and he instantly went from best to worst unit in a solo perspective lol
anyways vhilda is a lock for 9 solos me thinks some just gotta do them !
dawn plume
hes the ONLY variety eevee that doesnt have healing under his wtz
pain
has synchro healing at least but thats not nearly as good
shy notch
Yeah even ice beam did a big chunk of damage
sturdy steeple
https://youtu.be/_R1s6Mdkl5g?si=0PauGW9wnin2matS
CRESSELIA 69
dawn plume
nice
dawn plume
Registeel perfect sleep?
already happened
true tartan
ah yeah
nothing much to do now huh
so, 2 more solos for 2100, including SAs
what's stopping Hilda of defeating Regirock
sturdy steeple
jp ppl who have hilda are asleep
shy notch
Hilbert picking up the slack for Hilda
I think Latias is the only one left Melony could try, but she probably gets destroyed by the sides
shy sinew
I'll throw Hilda at Regirock for a bit since mine is 3/5 now
actually never mind I made it to bar 2 once and realized that's not going to be that great
shy notch
Uxie paralyzed me to death on another good run. History repeats itself
lost juniper
true tartan
1 more for 2100, for those who want to try to get it
shy notch
Rough…but possible
loud shell
Who’s the best new eeveelution unit for gauntlet after today?
worthy horizon
hilbert (8) > hilda (6) > calem (2)
all of them need 3/5 though besides hilda bulu which is 2/5
solo count
river cliff
I feel like Hilda is the best at 1/5
worthy horizon
yeah at 1/5 hilda is still gaugeless and has her own heals
shy sinew
they all seem like super solid duo partners even if the solos are holding them back a bit
river cliff
She also has the least demanding support requirements which is great
worthy horizon
meanwhile i'm still wondering what to do with 1/5 v kris
river cliff
Kind of surprised she doesn't have a 1/5 clear on bulu
river cliff
meanwhile i'm still wondering what to do with 1/5 v kris
I've typically stuck her with either ss elesa or alcremie since they top off her offenses nicely
worthy horizon
does seem like you should be able to just stick stoic on and have it work
but at 2/5 she's still going to very low health even with verdant recovery on grid so
river cliff
I might give it a go once I get around to caking her
I'm waiting for the next rotation before committing any more resources
dawn plume
these eevees are the most passable at 1/5 for sure
the other ones need dupes
elio and selene reign supreme though
worthy horizon
with exr it should be fairly doable, currently it's 2/5 20/20
extra defenses can go a very long way
worthy horizon
I've typically stuck her with either ss elesa or alcremie since they top off her...
i've seen most comps in the doc are giving her speed buffs, are you giving v kris ft2?
bitter gate
I wonder if they'll do more
true tartan
Kabu got the 2100 lol
or well, more like Melony did?
Kabu on Regirock and V Hilda on Raiko were done earlier than Melony
we just didn't notice them until a few minutes ago
worthy horizon
makes that rock weakness look like nothing
sturdy steeple
that candy investment sure aint nothing tho
worthy horizon
yea
still glad to see it possible at all
mine is still going to sit at 3/5 for quite a while
shy sinew
candy investment for kabu?
worthy horizon
yeah 10/5 needed
shy sinew
genuinely don't know what his higher move levels give him and am not going to find out for a while
river cliff
i've seen most comps in the doc are giving her speed buffs, are you giving v kri...
Yeah I've run fast track on her
worthy horizon
makes sense
it's also more evidence that superawakened ss blue can just brute force more stuff we aren't expecting
shy sinew
yeah 10/5 needed
yeah no my big investment pair rn is anni raihan, I've got 5 woke candies ready to go already just need regular candies or dare I say it a rerun banner
worthy horizon
since i haven't seen any supports do much under superawakening yet
sturdy steeple
jawdrop
sturdy steeple
since i haven't seen any supports do much under superawakening yet
ingo
worthy horizon
ah
sturdy steeple
both possible before awakening but like so unrealistic to go for
worthy horizon
shows how closely i've been tracking/remembering
true tartan
and tbh, Ingo can lower some to no SA
sturdy steeple
for sure
true tartan
meanwhile, SS Morty did need it lol
sturdy steeple
so many sun mprs needed
dreamy warren
how much can 2/5 adaman solo
shy notch
I wouldn’t have expected SS Morty to get 12 solos, it’s very impressive
worthy horizon
definitely
dreamy warren
Oo, I could probably get him 3/5 before the next lg. I needed to fix my grass anyways
if next lg is something simple I am gonna aim for 100
worthy horizon
3/5 adaman is real nice to have
shy sinew
I really need to do more Raikou solos, I feel like I'd have more done if it was ever in a gauntlet though
worthy horizon
and carries grass needs
dreamy warren
has raikou ever been in a lg?
sturdy steeple
not yet
shy sinew
might not be either until they shake things up a bit more
worthy horizon
nor cresselia
dreamy warren
huh, I wonder why they are keeping it from lg. I get cres
but isn't raikou an easier la?
worthy horizon
3rd easiest
bitter gate
@true tartan lemme guess, snow did Kabu regi
worthy horizon
yep
bitter gate
How many kills does that leave him
true tartan
yep
bitter gate
8?
dreamy warren
10/5 kabu must have quite a few solos
worthy horizon
2 more lol
true tartan
for now, only 2
dreamy warren
Hmmm, what lgs is ss Lear missing rn
true tartan
Lear?
dreamy warren
I wanna see if I can do some ss Lear clears
true tartan
shy sinew
all of those missing ones are just a good luck
sturdy steeple
please check the documents they got all the info ya need
dreamy warren
docs don't work for me usually for some reason
true tartan
there's a thing that if someone can do Uxie, they may do Cobalion, difference is that Uxie can be sync nuked on bar 2 lol
dreamy warren
I wanna see if I can do cob. I have 5/5 ss Lear with some nice dr gear
worthy horizon
gotta try
worthy horizon
i would also expect latias to be easier yeah
bitter gate
Probably the only one he has a shot for unless he brutes past cobalion or something
inner turret
How would he even do that lol
bitter gate
Idk, lol
inner turret
Yeah I dont think he's getting more
true tartan
special hitters do have an advantage against coba
inner turret
Latias is the most likely and even then it's kinda... Not likely
worthy horizon
stoic is blocking more damage than it does vs uxie and fighting guard on grid exists though maybe it's not worth it still
bitter gate
Latias is the most likely and even then it's kinda... Not likely
I think if rose has a shot at it I think so can lear
sturdy steeple
his problem is the duration
shy notch
Is TM MPR + TM hit and heal enough to survive?
sturdy steeple
always try
dreamy warren
idt SS Lear cob is possible from my attempts yet. Even when I dodge all the edges I take too much damage during bar 2 to be able to survive during bar 3
I have stoic
heavy sinew
surely the gacha game will pull through just one more time cause that's how gach...
My favorite eeveelution
torchic
tender horizon
I hate this game
LAST YEAR I GOT 4/5 LYRA FROM THE EEVE TICKET
EEVEE MORE LIKE EEVIL
worthy horizon
i've seen her a lot in the ub doc, idk if she gets anything good from 10e though
wise raven
I'm glad I always get new units but they're like 1/5 forever 
river cliff
It makes for a teambuilding challenge at the very least
lost juniper
shy notch
F Shauntal definitely gonna be my pick on the next seasonal select scout
lost juniper
F Shauntal definitely gonna be my pick on the next seasonal select scout
She 100% deserves the pick
sturdy steeple
we have 69 superawakening solos
bitter gate
noice
toxic kernel
Do you think ss Steven have a shot at Tornadus from SA (only stat and bp wise)? 
sturdy steeple
yes
sturdy steeple
the recover MPR requirement will still be pretty high likely tho
stuck mantle
All depend wat his passive will be
He may get like zone on sync
Set
Can get recover hp back from sync
dawn plume
i think ss steven and arven are very likely to get 14/14 with sa
dawn plume
cuz they are only missing torn, which better stats allow you to bruteforce
stuck mantle
Steven is 10E my so its less invest need
Plus i realy like his kit
Is soo dam opp even now
dawn plume
give him the stat boosts from superawakening and i think this can power through torn
sturdy steeple
150+ hp is so good
dawn plume
alternatively maybe drop quick cure and bite mgr for healthy buffer
shy notch
Yay Adaman came home…I’m gonna try to see if he can get anything new with his EXR but I need to wait for December to get a sprint cake. Not sure if anything can be lowered
heavy sinew
W
shy notch
Really need to reset so Latias doesn’t get those pesky defense crush 1 debuffs
true tartan
those are really annoying...
tender horizon
Really need to reset so Latias doesn’t get those pesky defense crush 1 debuffs
-5 Def rip
shy notch
Btw do max moves bypass fluid fortification?
kind imp
i think so
idk if there's any in lg a passive that piercing blows bypasses but max moves don't nvm
heavy sinew
Robust Physique?
kind imp
yea
i remembered that so i went to check the glojo solo but then it critted
forgot g-max rapid flow had innate piercing blows lol
tender horizon
Btw do max moves bypass fluid fortification?
Yes
Max moves bypass everything except shields 
shy notch
I can see it. He’s veryyy bulky
worthy horizon
yea it's not an amazing 10/5 passive
bitter gate
They frontloaded it to his max move and is a bit short-fight centric
true tartan
Kabu beating fraud allegations?
needing all the way to full investment doesn't "help" in my book lol
but Kabu, as a team member, is meant to be quite useful imo
true tartan
solowise, he was very lacking for sure
worthy horizon
i am on uxie rn btw
gleaming cypress
how do egg eevee work for LG
if you use say egg glaceon first are you not allowed to use any other eevee for the rest of your gauntlet run
kind imp
or 8 unevolved eevees with different sync types
worthy horizon
yea same line same thing
true tartan
Twitter
guess support made it possible to overcome bar 1, just need to find how to end the stage
rocky oasis
gl to luri
stuck mantle
and made it twice since they forgot to record
Lol jp are crazzy 30% flinch
No sts low
rocky oasis
ezpz just flinch every move
bitter gate
Does that equalize Hilda Hilbert or
bright brook
Still a long way
Hilbert has 9, and it's a matter of time till he sols azelf to make it 10
bitter gate
So it's 9 to 7, ye
Figured Hilbert would be the best of the three here despite Hilda sustain
bitter gate
is that yours? @bright brook
damn, a lot of folks are investing in the eevees huh
Did she oneshot bar 2 through half?
I'm surprised she took Hyper Beam, but I may underestimate her bulk
bitter gate
Cool
Meanwhile Calem crying in LG hell saying why he got shit healing unlike the others
bright brook
Did she oneshot bar 2 through half?
Umm well the answer to did steel get iron def up would be yes it did
bitter gate
Umm well the answer to did steel get iron def up would be yes it did
more concerned about "can she take hyper beam at -2 def"
than if she can brute through no spdef debuffs
bright brook
Enlightenment 9
Yea she took it pretty well
I tried vigil first and it did like 80%
bitter gate
Fair
bitter gate
oh, you didn't have to take it anyway, lol
hallow gull
Well uh
Very lucky run
And my record is broken again
It only recorded from here
shy sinew
So between woke ARaihan and woke(?) SS Diantha, who should be the priority? Both are 1/5 and end goals for me, but I could start candying one after datamine most likely
stuck mantle
I would choice diantha
Since next hse is rock too
Raihan need his most runs alot sands mprs so diatha less rng
bitter gate
So between woke ARaihan and woke(?) SS Diantha, who should be the priority? Both...
Raihan gets bigger disparity for LG specifically
If that's all you care about I'd say Raihan makes a bigger difference from base than Diantha herself, but your cal
bitter gate
What the heck
chrome halo
Rednhoho my goat
shy notch
Huh grand entry 1
worthy horizon
specific damage control maybe
raven crane
Looked like it, that half bar 2 looked pretty close.
wide citrus
Since i got Eve i wanted to see (for fun) how many LA can duo of hear and leaf clear
Pain
lost juniper
Since i got Eve i wanted to see (for fun) how many LA can duo of hear and leaf c...
Both can solo
wide citrus
~~Both can solo~~
Cool
bitter gate
10 kills for Hilbert
raven crane
Zero shot at Regirock and Moltres me thinks.
hallow gull
He cant debuff Tor’s Attack so bar 2 will be a problem
gleaming cypress
funny how ice is canonically weak to steel, rock, fighting and fire
3 of which registeel covers and the only one that it doesnt cover (fire) is his weakness type
i wonder if he could solo if he was say, rock weak
bitter gate
Did he do azelf?
pliant glen
I thought Calem would be the best but he's the worst it seems rip
Elio and Selene on top that's all that matters
bitter gate
I thought Calem would be the best but he's the worst it seems rip
Content polarity
stuck mantle
Lol irida vs molters heat wave miss was crucial
bitter gate
Calem sucks in LG because his healing is the worst of all the Eevees
But everywhere else id say he has arguments as the best
Also because fairy is balanced type
pliant glen
He can run Penny and SS Mina in DC
pliant glen
Giga rip...
hallow gull
He can run Penny and SS Mina in DC
Wait why DC ?
bitter gate
His nuke hurts
hallow gull
I dont remember he can spam
pliant glen
The Variety Eevees set their own WTZ every Sync
bitter gate
But not as much as wally
hallow gull
At least Hilbert can spam Toxic
pliant glen
It's VElio and VSelene were good
bitter gate
I dont remember he can spam
Charm, idk, but it's there
inner turret
nah not spammable
pliant glen
Although Dexio is just an upgrade
hallow gull
It's VElio and VSelene were good
V Selene sadly wasn’t that great tho
bitter gate
Despite excellent LG performance
But it's subject to the comps as well, Elio's showed up as crucial picks in HS/UB and stuff, but yeah
Also how many solos you guys reckon Lusamine will get
My guess is 3 or 4, I'd be surprised if she actually gets 6
inner turret
idek if she can get azelf 
bitter gate
Yeah, with ridiculous mpr and dodge luck, idk
Bulu I think is a safe bet
Raikou and Regirock maybe?
inner turret
regirock is on the table imo yes
bitter gate
Probably doable with mpr procs from hell
inner turret
it wont be fun but still more likely than azelf
inner turret
registeel with dc2 and bug buzz drops
bitter gate
With stupid amounts of luck, again?
Like theoretically she can beat anything with stupid mpr and dodge luck
Add unyielding in there
Just for the extra cheese
inner turret
anything that doesnt kill her through damage guard before she kills it via sync
bitter gate
She has to run stoic the whole way too unless she's confident DG saves her from syncs
Attack drops help her too
Suddenly 6 or 7 doesn't seem too unlikely
raven crane
Unfortunately ain't so hot elsewhere
She was pretty good (maybe vital) for top ranking in the HSE.
I remember ranking that time and seeing one comp specifically use Selene a ton.
bitter gate
She was not as integral as some other picks, afaik she mostly just dominated the fantina matchup
raven crane
Yeah, you're right.
But still she was good/great for that role.
Which is something.
bitter gate
Not saying much considering it was Dark weak with no gimmick checks
Ofc not trying to give her flak on anything but considering HS is also largely skewed on parameter synergy than just raw unit quality there's always that to consider
raven crane
Ofc not trying to give her flak on anything but considering HS is also largely s...
True.
Makes it hard to say "this character is good for HSE" when it depends entirely on the parameters and stage gimmicks/weaknesses.
Which we don't know until it no longer matters half the time.
Fun mode.
bitter gate
In other news, I wonder if SS May can get her 13 kills
She's done Moltres for 11, now it's just flinch cheesing Terrakion and Cresselia to death
Also waiting on Champ Iris and SS Korrina superawakenings
dawn plume
i think that 10% heat wave dodge was required lmfao wow
dawn plume
Also waiting on Champ Iris and SS Korrina superawakenings
i have bad news champ iris already got hers
its horrible
bitter gate
To do stuff in LG, I mean
I know it's horrible
I remembered stdk and I just talking about how it would still, in theory, open up more solos
heavy sinew
Korrina got awakening?
Oh it looks kinda eh
She gets sprint cake benefits which is nice but other than that it could be better
bitter gate
Yeah, too bottlenecked
into her first sync
The designs remain not equal and the first-time designs tend to be more lackluster
The more meaningful ones have no limit procs
raven crane
Insert Majora's Mask meme here:
raven crane
1% HP is crazy.
bright brook
Invisible sash
rocky oasis
old variety units still have no exr unfortunately
stuck mantle
Low chance they get
stuck mantle
If they want give exr when ball guy rerun should have it
So not sure if they give them it
We get pokefairs 10/5 befor exr all units even
So they skipp old and move on
rocky oasis
the ones missing expansion
mallow and piers are fine
everyone else has issues
even bianca i think
she def aint in need of buff but she could use some QOL improvments bc her energy costs are awkward
give may PE or smth
missing muddy water is super obnoxious
giving volkner nuking optiosn would make his solos easier
I guess you could buff mallow a bit too idk
raven crane
Give Mallow some self sufficiency, god damn.
rocky oasis
idk maybe give dawn gauge options so she doesnt need FT? or give her spdef
stuck mantle
May would need something too
rocky oasis
PE so she doesnt keep missing her damn muddy waters
and more dmg is always good idk
She feels almost complete despite being a early gen pool
stuck mantle
I would love may super awakening get extend rain😏
rocky oasis
i actually wouldnt mind her getting a better mult than hide and sync
brainpower maybe
rocky oasis
for some reason hide and sync pretty much never wants to activate
so many resets for acc debuffs
stuck mantle
Alot old units have annoing sync mult
toxic kernel
Hide and sync on ss lusamine 
tight rivet
is lyra good for gauntlet
she has synchro healing but only focus rush 1 kinda sucks cuz she cant crit reliably until fairly late
lost juniper
Vaporeon?
rocky oasis
doesnt she just acc debuff everything
tight rivet
yeah
lost juniper
2/5 should be enough for many arenas
rocky oasis
The unfortunate thing about the v eevees is that they all want 3/5 and i aint got the candy for that
jacq is getting my next candy
tight rivet
jacq is getting my next candy
i want to candy both
but
my techs are so dire
Game please stop giving me techs
rocky oasis
why do they all have such dogshit 2/5
except for kris
and maybe lucas has a ok 2/5
thats it tho
heavy sinew
Which Lucas
rocky oasis
getting a jacq candy next reset so he will be 2/5 soon
tight rivet
I got 2 jacq from that exr triple scout
Was unironically really hype
But he seems hard to play
Without 3/5
rocky oasis
yep hes one of those units who deseperately want 3/5 to fully function
at 1/5 he was only good for meatshield duty
i couldnt get him to work vs cobalion at all
he hits like a wet noodle outside of that b move
river cliff
I've just accepted that a lot of my pairs are never going beyond 1/5
tight rivet
I keep pulling techs
river cliff
It's really weird seeing grassy glide not flinch
thick dawn
glad i'm not the only one
tight rivet
Why does leafeon not run it normally anyway
thick dawn
move hits and there just not being flinch confuse trap feels wrong lmao
raven crane
Why does leafeon not run it normally anyway
Why would it?
rocky oasis
leafeon in general is pretty dogshit
raven crane
Leafeon got the gas.
rocky oasis
Lbr even in doubles you have way better options
tight rivet
I mean its bad but speed isnt one of its issues
The main thing is holy fuvk this thing has next to no coverage
All of the moves in its learnset are grass and all of the potential coverage moves you could run are special
tight rivet
Yeah im looking at tms
raven crane
Leafeon in main series vs. Leafeon in Masters: Someone insert a funny picture here.
rocky oasis
venusaur just outclasses it as a sun sweeper / sleep powder spammer by default
tight rivet
And the only move that isnt grass and is physical is knock off
Technically also tera blast
But teraing leafeon is basically suicide
raven crane
It has.. X-Scissor...
rocky oasis
not sure what yoh wanna hit w/ x scissor
tight rivet
Yeh x scissor and knock off
raven crane
... Other Leafeon...
tight rivet
So cool
raven crane
tight rivet
Yeah like i said the complete lack of coverage is what makes leafeon bad
Also grass is really bad defensively
rocky oasis
that spdef is fatal too
getting murdered by random spread dazzling gleams sucks
like heat wave is bad enough but you aint living the giraffes hyper voices either
that or farig sets up trick room in your face
I remember wolfey trying to use leafeon back during SS and uh... it did nothing a venusaur couldnt do better
tight rivet
that spdef is fatal too
Yeah they spec into one damage type and completely compromise the bulk for the other side
Referring to the gen 4 eevees
For glaceon its worse cuz ice weaknesses are mainly physical
rocky oasis
not like the other eevees are tgat relevant today
outside of umbreon and sylveon
umbreon can suprisingly put in work
Well before they started allowing flutter mane ofc
raven crane
Yeah they spec into one damage type and completely compromise the bulk for the o...
More I think about it, isn't the former statement just every Eeveelution?
tight rivet
More I think about it, isn't the former statement just every Eeveelution?
Yes but in the case of glaceon and leafeon their bulk on the opposite side is so bad and they have terrible defensive types
Which is why its a bigger issue
rocky oasis
umbreon is actually ok if you want a fat wall for helping hand + yawn support bc those offensive stats dont matter
tight rivet
umbreon is actually ok if you want a fat wall for helping hand + yawn support bc...
And it has foul play
So it has a good stab move that works with its stats
rocky oasis
plus snarl for debuffing
only good for chip tho
at least thats how i used it before incin came back and made most supports obsolete just by existing
and ofc flutter mane invalidates umbreon and sylveon too
I vagely remember running into expanding force espeons on the vgc ladder
and they were decently threatening i guess
nowhere near as scary as indeedee armarouge teams
rocky oasis
indeedee / crown has broken into my house, stolen my lifes savings and kicked my cat
that damn thing refuses to die
While also murdering my entire team w/ expanding force
Ok its relatively manageable if incin is alive but the moment your dark type goes down its gg
river cliff
I'm glad I waited until reg h to get back into vgc, some of those teams looked obnoxious
rocky oasis
honestly my least favorite mon was flutter mane
rocky oasis
Arch signature moves feels way overtuned
tight rivet
because its meteor beam without the limitation
meteor beam wss balanced by the fact ots a 2 turn move
electroshot is meteor beam but without restriction
river cliff
I like all the coaching stuff
Coaching riolu has become one of my favorite supporters
Also prankster copycatting trick room to undo it is hilarious
tight rivet
why riolu specifically
tight rivet
earth power?
rocky oasis
- the farig
tight rivet
finally girafarig is actually good
river cliff
why riolu specifically
Riolu is the only pokemon with prankster + coaching
tight rivet
so its another murkrow situation
river cliff
So you can do cute stuff like coaching dragapult immediately or coaching a kingambit right as it sucker punches
tight rivet
where it changes upon evolution
rocky oasis
yes
river cliff
Yup. Copycat and quick guard have some cool use cases too. I just wish they gave it follow me back
river cliff
Mimikyu is pretty interesting
rocky oasis
it does have some interesting things going for it
like idc if its less optimal than the giraffe
im just fucking around
river cliff
Curse is pretty nice for taking out stuff like dozo, arch, and annihilape
river cliff
It's annoying to account for
tight rivet
:TatsuSus:
rocky oasis
at least we aint dealing w/ dozo stall mirror matches anymore...
idk why anyone ever thought that was fun
tight rivet
wait so you cant switch out either dondozo or tatsu once commander activates right
tight rivet
i remember the cheese toxic orb tatsu strat tho
wasnt wolfe the pioneer of that
or am i misremembering
rocky oasis
on the flip side dozo has unaware and refuses to die
tight rivet
yeah water is good defensively and unaware just says no to set up sweepers
inner turret
Yay
sturdy steeple
lotsa solos today you love to see it
we surpassed over 100 solos this month without counting the superawakening solos
classic hundred solos eevee month
(173 total this month so far, 70 superawakening ones)
also most important thing this month we got cresselia 69 and tornadus 69
rocky oasis
lol now lets keep it there
worthy horizon
nah
median swan
(173 total this month so far, 70 superawakening ones)
november MF and superawakening unlocks gonna bring that to 200 by the 30th
worthy horizon
surprised at how confident i was that kabu 3/5 vs uxie was doable but ig brain poisoned by too many lodge kabu attempts which i don't believe i have the right investment for
kinda close
true tartan
after over 1 year
finally, did it
fun thing of this? you don't need the freeze as long you get some defensive Skill Gear and pray for not missing Icy Winds
bitter gate
No R?
tight rivet
did she need the exr or is it just a ton of rng
raven crane
Just watch the video.
tight rivet
i might not be able to read
true tartan
No R?
never needed it
I got close one time in the past with Ice Gear lol
samui (coldpoke) got it with 5/5 after Skill Gear was introduced, they went for the bar 3 freeze + pinpoint entry
tight rivet
samui (coldpoke) got it with 5/5 after Skill Gear was introduced, they went for ...
so tldr dont get slippery sloped
like most latias soloes?
true tartan
indeed
but what saved me here is that skill gear enables her to tank the EQ lol
before, she was KO'd or put one move away
tight rivet
right those are unconditional dr
true tartan
here, she has more defense, more HP, and 4% DR I think?
tight rivet
if only she had evasion
tight rivet
here, she has more defense, more HP, and 4% DR I think?
so mainly extra stats were carrying
true tartan
EX R would need a bit of a different strat
raven crane
here, she has more defense, more HP, and 4% DR I think?
That... Doesn't sound bad at all. Did damage ranges matter with Irida receiving damage?
true tartan
because she'd deal too much damage lol
true tartan
That... Doesn't sound bad at all. Did damage ranges matter with Irida receiving ...
the damage ranges were bigger from 60 -> 75, but the biggest factor in my run is that she only missed1 Icy Wind
so I changed bars with a +1 evasion that's no issue as her b move never misses
plus giving bigger damage as FF has less stats
and the fields lasted all the way till the game ended, granting her ~~DR from Winter Coat and* ~~bigger damage output from the passives
- had no winter coat, lol
raven crane
So, very consistent solo bar evasion.
true tartan
yeah
if anything, for EX R, I'd think you would want to miss a bit more lol
so you don't put it under half in bar 2
raven crane
Sweats in 5/5 EXR Irida.
true tartan
or maybe try CS
the problem is that with Latias, you can't put her under half in bar 2 lol
raven crane
Yeeeeeep.
true tartan
skip over half + stay healthy = you win
bitter gate
Cool
true tartan
gauge is not even an issue lol
but yeah, you pick that and don't go through it
she still hits hard haha
raven crane
gauge is not even an issue lol
Yeah but it gets you to Satisfied Snicker without picking up Icy Wind power nodes, lol.
But yeah, you right.
tight rivet
tfw hitting too hard is an actual problem
raven crane
Common place here..
true tartan
damage ranges, yep...
raven crane
raven crane
I feel like he could get that lower unless I'm dumb.
true tartan
anni raihan did Moltres long ago lol
tight rivet
what level
true tartan
4/5
tight rivet
damn
is there anything he got with super that could be lowered
or is it too absurd
true tartan
back when skill gear didn't exist
raven crane
But an actual nuke.
tight rivet
true
raven crane
raven crane
Not my main Sprints being Rei and Sina.
true tartan
yeah, is not like that, many hit hard lol
tight rivet
yeah with 150 he has 512.2 spatk after his passive
true tartan
is just the first impression from Nemona and Archer lol
tight rivet
is there anything he got with super that could be lowered
sooo is there
raven crane
Nemo feels undertuned, but she did introduce the Role, so.
tight rivet
Nemo feels undertuned, but she did introduce the Role, so.
i dont think shes undertuned she just has a lot of self conflicts in her kit
which makes her awkward to use
bitter gate
She also still needs a cake
tight rivet
not like it'll help much
bitter gate
Depends on what it is
tight rivet
does it
bitter gate
Strike gives a kind of legitimate option
raven crane
sooo is there
Theoretically you could flinch Uxie to death, but it'd be Hell.
tight rivet
~~Theoretically you could flinch Uxie to death, but it'd be Hell.~~
even with disarm its that bad?
raven crane
Iono.
I have a 2/5 Raihan, this ain't my territory.
I just looked at the list and did 10 second thoughts.
tight rivet
understandable have a nice day
raven crane
bitter gate
@true tartan what needs to happen for NY dawn Entei
tight rivet
<@138721347894378496> what needs to happen for NY dawn Entei
probably a fire spin miss?
bitter gate
I'm interested in trying it
bitter gate
He says the clear needs sharp entry
raven crane
Whitty sounds like a fusion of Witty and Hit.
true tartan
<@138721347894378496> what needs to happen for NY dawn Entei
patience
bitter gate
Patience for what outcome, lel
raven crane
You're on a roll today my friend.
bitter gate
Any particular mprs?
true tartan
for you to not get rafa'd
with 50% sync crits
that you will totally need for defeating the stage
tight rivet
do you need sharp entry
true tartan
yeah lol
tight rivet
no spatk buffs is so painful thoughhhh
true tartan
maybe not if you just sync farm a lot I suppose
tight rivet
like she has a good gauntlet kit but 0 self buffs is so badddddd
true tartan
no spatk buffs is so painful thoughhhh
Entei gains sp def if it hits
hallow gull
cuz they gave her 0 self buffing for some reason!
And give her inate Rising Tide 
true tartan
so...
bitter gate
It's bar 3 that's a concern
tight rivet
bar 3 is the he10 nonsense isnt it
true tartan
sure burn yup
bitter gate
What makes you think it's possible actually @true tartan
Piercing gaze, sure crit, burns
bitter gate
Probably requires copious amounts of mpr or insane SHY luck
true tartan
let's see, I'll ask a bit
bitter gate
SHY makes a bit more sense to me
true tartan
I think they didn't run shy
bitter gate
Hmm
true tartan
not because is "not a good idea" but the energy didn't let to grab it
raven crane
I was like "the fuck is shy?" Then I went "oh my favorite tile on SS Ingo."
true tartan
lol
something like this can work
me: hmmm, someone is asking about the ny dawn on entei
you tried it, right?
anon: sigh
well the thing you need to do is skip the second half of bar 2 lol
you immediately put up TM in bar 1
you can not get any Sp.def lowers lol
otherwise swift hits too hard
and you also kinda need to be rafa'd in bar 1
just miss the crit
you want to build up I think 3 syncs
change bar with sync, and try to get as close to half before you sync again
just hope that sync doesn't miss crit lol
bitter gate
Sounds like a lot of variance
Sacking recup is also a bit tricky but
I'll try it I guess
rocky oasis
gl
dreamy warren
what about theoretically assuming perfect rng
worthy horizon
assuming perfect rng she can already freeze lock everything that doesn't become immune
dreamy warren
but now she defeats the stuff that becomes immune right?
worthy horizon
well moltres is still a problem even with infinite tm
because you're still fire weak under sun with no defenses beyond damage guard and evasion won't work
eh maybe it's still enough
but it also moves so much that you have no time to get attacks in
dreamy warren
I wonder if someone is insane enough to try
dreamy warren
what about cob
river cliff
Azelf, bulu, latias, and entei are the most realistic
true tartan
worthy horizon
it does end but that hardly makes it very doable at all
dreamy warren
imagine lusa someday gets most las cleared
river cliff
Entei is very vulnerable to freeze
worthy horizon
oh
river cliff
And you can dodge on the first two bars
river cliff
Forgot about raikou, that seems pretty doable too
chrome halo
does Lusamine BP gives her self offensive buffs
chrome halo
that's not too bad
worthy horizon
jp players have historically been way more willing to do the evasion stuff which lusamine will be utilizing a lot on top of the damage guard nexts from mprs
likely we see some of them do azelf and bulu, less sure about raikou and entei, and likely not anything else
dreamy warren
will keep my eyes on the jp side then
lussa solos should have their own tier of difficulty
worthy horizon
was thinking bulu could potentially be too much and then i remembered that bugsy has a solo
dreamy warren
nothing is too much
worthy horizon
tell that to yourself
dreamy warren
Just someone determined enough needs to come
river cliff
I think Latias will probably be the most difficult one
worthy horizon
para procs could have been more cooperative
bitter gate
para procs could have been more cooperative
is this just 3/5 or
worthy horizon
exr yea
bitter gate
Ahh, trying to lower the solo
close
I do wonder as well if fully expanded Kabu can't do Latias, he does have overwhelm for the exta drop
worthy horizon
did a sync right as burn ticked over half bar and cleansed, surprised it was full damage
he should
worthy horizon
trap also lasts a lot longer with sides in play but the sides also hit very hard
plush edge
How should I grid Eve for solos? Is bob and weave worth it over the confusion tile?
true tartan
you can look at the documents with the solos, they hold the grids in there
plush edge
Oh bet, thanks!
rocky oasis
a lot of her solos are pretty miserable and rng heavy btw
inner turret
All of them
They go from miserable to completely utterly absolutely undeniably 10000% miserable
lost juniper
Aside from Latios
inner turret
Nah i'm pretty sure even latios isnt fun
inner turret
Can't wait for the Noland UB clears with infinite damage guard tanking
inner turret
If only the hp restoration part wasnt just in a pinch
raven crane
They go from miserable to completely utterly absolutely undeniably 10000% misera...
I hate Eve solos so much.
rocky oasis
idk how i made the azelf solo work
raven crane
if only they gave event units ex
NPC trainers.*
Basically all other event units have EX's...
rocky oasis
her solos would be way less miserable
raven crane
I committed half way. We'll go from there next season.
Eve Super Awakening please and thanks.
tender horizon
Eve Superawakening skill: Lucky Seven 4, Recuperation 1, Not Super Effective: S Moves up 9
hearty zodiac
can anyone help me beat moltres
rocky oasis
bertha+mina
hearty zodiac
does she have to be ex
rocky oasis
doesnt matter
hearty zodiac
And can she be 1/5
hearty zodiac
it’s for part 3
rocky oasis
Bertha exists to be a sandstome bot and debuff
hearty zodiac
okay
rocky oasis
ss hilda is fine
chrome halo
https://youtu.be/ZI9jUvDseo4 been a long while since the last solo that catches my interest
true tartan
saw Bulus too?
chrome halo
Yeah, i just checked it
Insane
Wait are you talking about Maylene or Valerie
Cuz I'm watching Maylene rn
raven crane
I saw it this morning on Tweeter.
dawn plume
can we get 400 latios solos before 2025???
bitter gate
How did she do Bulu without exploding lol
Wow and she did it with only Healthy Benefits 4% as DR
Jesus
rocky oasis
wow thats a lot pf luck to not get fucked over by para
or get flinched
Valerie solos are the worst bc of the rng lbr
bitter gate
lbr?
tight rivet
Lets be real
bitter gate
Because of the coinflips?
tight rivet
Probably
bitter gate
idt it's that RNG tbh?
sturdy steeple
vs raikou, that was super lucky
getting paralyzed like twice wouldve been the end
needing all those crits is important
bitter gate
Yeah, unless you have innate lithe or immunity in general
the difficulty about raikou is much like bar 1 registeel ish
without the other nonsense
which is paralysis frequency
not exclusive to Valerie but as a weaker pair I guess she has it worse
rocky oasis
Because of the coinflips?
i kept dying to random flinches, crits trying the bulu solo
tried the raikou solo too
dawn plume
if sylveon cant kiss it dies... damn just like me
tight rivet
if sylveon cant kiss it dies... damn just like me
sturdy steeple
not critting is both a big dps and endurance loss
bitter gate
similar to some of the harder sycamore ones too
missing crits against registeel for instance
sturdy steeple
just a few missed crits and its joever
bitter gate
But yeah, Valerie getting a +2 kill count was not something I was expecting
kind imp
kinda funny the amount of draining users that have to deal with +1 crit
ss mina, lana, h.whitney and l.dawn too
forgot marshall and h.erika
chrome halo
Sycamore sipping
worthy horizon
defensive units that don't get the privilege of better offensive buffs
and valerie
bitter gate
hey at least they still get away with it