Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)

[dawn plume]

its def required here though

pretty neat

[bitter gate]

Jesus

[brisk sapphire]

Good lord Azelf just evaporated

[true tartan]

https://youtu.be/jiXzzjwG3OE

the sync in the run was the highest one right before under half

meaning that, as long you didn't get two 6 minrolls

you'd win

[true tartan]

and so...

Bug is currently the only Type where all units have, at least, one solo

[tender horizon]

Whos the loser on Psychic

I think its Tate

[brisk sapphire]

How ironic it's bug of all types

[worthy horizon]

bug types have 1 thing going for them

[chrome halo]

rare Bug W

[tender horizon]

Statistics rules

I wonder if new Tate solos Entei with double Aggrav

[bitter gate]

Gordie solo Latios is a thing now apparently

[inner turret]

where

[bitter gate]

JP server

[inner turret]

oh yeah

[lost juniper]

They got a video?

[bitter gate]

Not sure

[lost juniper]

I sure hope they did

[pliant glen]

Check replays

[worthy horizon]

nothing there

[lost juniper]

https://vxtwitter.com/zeburaika523/status/1856612667638853808?t=Qkj_2f_U-Hhk5cz1dscONw&s=19

They posted it on twitter thankfully

[gleaming cypress]

no way the wise entry 2 solo

[stuck mantle]

Flinch in the end epic

[inner turret]

I think I chocked

Here, my last move was X Attack
If I use it earlier and Headbutt before the sing, between Hem In 9 and the stage passive that drops def on crit, maybe I would've had a window to queue sing

[bitter gate]

Nay

[inner turret]

Get more tm mpr

Oh you don't have any lol

[vital ibex]

i dont think lisia doesnt have tm mpr does she

[inner turret]

oh wow she doesn't yeah

2020 unit moment

[tender horizon]

Keep going

[bitter gate]

this is an MGR fest

if she doesn't proc MGR generously its miserable

and this is DESPITE FT

[dawn plume]

proc mgr every hit challenge ?

[inner turret]

Im getting so close

That sleep just needs to last 1 move longer

[shy notch]

Oof so close. Would the failed sing animation be faster at the end?

[inner turret]

No because sing against an immunity is slow

Also I need to use headbutt to actually deal damage, her sync without Sleep only does 20k

[rocky oasis]

rip

gl

[karmic willow]

one day

lisia awakening

or exr

or you know what

witty hit + crit entry on side expansion

that'd make it easy

[tender horizon]

Just need 1 sync multiplier to make it good

Knowing dena track record it might become Devastation

[quaint tartan]

Wounded sync up 9

[karmic willow]

lol

devastation

[keen flint]

now that this exists give it to Lisia
If only Wallace could have had this

[inner turret]

Ok so uh I think Regirock bar 3 is bullshit and should be taken to jail

I think the solo is still possible, but it requires 3 TM MPR just to start, which is 2.7% and then you have to pull the solo ofc, which isn't easy

[rocky oasis]

im somewhat ok w/ her getting devestation bc the only one youd ever wanna mega her for is fairy weak

idk i want more tanking option

[river cliff]

Something like free move next when there aren't any field effects would be pretty awesome

[chrome halo]

That is too much I'm afraid

Something something Sharp Entry 1

[bitter gate]

i think fix her sufficiency first and give her staggering

healing would be nice even if it's just Recup 1/2

idt her sharing first half of wallace passives are dumb, for one

[true tartan]

I can't hardly picture staggering being given there haha...

[bitter gate]

Why not? She loses one of the main things most people think makes her good

Which is her 40%, which fsr disappears

Upon mega

[rocky oasis]

tbf if shes getting recup i aint running it

She cant finally hea herself! but also loses the ability to flinch

[bitter gate]

Attach it to dragon pulse or something if you're worried about just adding to the innate rate

[rocky oasis]

Moonblast

Moonblast actually has utility

[bitter gate]

Which is good for a comp perspective but solos would prefer it

If she'll even get one, lol

[rocky oasis]

gladion still sitting there hitting like a wet noodle

[bitter gate]

Lillie and Lusamine's expansions make him a wildcard

Noting that Lusamine essentially becomes MPR simulator

Lol

[rocky oasis]

only thing he needs is crit and dmg

[true tartan]

consider that Sabrina's good thing was having psybeam as a 2 bar move and loses it for a 3 one that makes it a bit harder to queue

what she got? free move next on entry

[bitter gate]

On entry so it only fixes it like

Very briefly

[true tartan]

"nothing" tbh

[rocky oasis]

i mean i hardly ever use psybeam

[true tartan]

yeah, because it is lost

in general, she wouldn't lose it if she was released nowadays* lol

[rocky oasis]

She kinda hogs the first sync

[bitter gate]

But yeah, you don't predict expansion quality

And Lisia in particular can either go the damage route or the tank route or some weird mix

[rocky oasis]

I want tank

[bitter gate]

Weather Wipe on Defog for Cloud Nine accuracy

[rocky oasis]

i think her dmg aint salvagablr

[bitter gate]

Would also be really funny

[true tartan]

Lisia, the dragon type that can't use dragon zone...

[bitter gate]

Not for modern standards, yeah, the damage is still good for a tank tho

[bitter gate]

I actually proved that wrong

[true tartan]

at least, not for nuking...

[bitter gate]

But only for the CS days

Lol

Ye

Triple L dragon

[true tartan]

of course

just mega her

then apply it and let her do regular damage

no damage is lost

just playing a bit oddly if anything

her gimmick is still very useful in other stages tho

very niche, but that's the kind of units that sometimes people forget that can counter things

[bitter gate]

Giving her weather Wipe would unironically give her niche use

As a reset button

Like, shed suddenly be a great Moltres duo unit

And have other cleanse niches

Especially since 40% MPR rather than 30%

[river cliff]

If Caitlin can get situational free move next there's a shot

[rocky oasis]

anyone have a list of units w/o a latios solo

[bitter gate]

the main list has it on the first tab, scroll to the bottom

[rocky oasis]

main lost?

oh

anyone trying a ny lance solo

[bitter gate]

I have him invested

should i give him sharp entry or something?

[rocky oasis]

idk

just him tl gloria and volo left

no idea about palserena

[worthy horizon]

he gets like no stat buffs

[rocky oasis]

huh

rip

i dont have him

ramos probably needs ex or TAS

[worthy horizon]

that's all he gets to work with

[rocky oasis]

wow thats twrrible

[worthy horizon]

2 potions and 0 mprs for that

[bitter gate]

yeah you'd need a very precise

dodge series or something

[rocky oasis]

bp falkner huh

so 3 or 4 more solos left

[bitter gate]

didn't BP falkner do bulu already

or is it just

latios in particular

[rocky oasis]

might give latios a shot

i have him w/ energy

[bitter gate]

I think lisia can do it provided the third bar surf doesn't proc her endure.

If she gets to that point I can beat it.

Which means I need really good gear.

[rocky oasis]

maybe

[bitter gate]

I've consistently gotten to third bar. Just that she can't kill in time.

I need quaggles' Lisia gear

with that much DR, lol

[lost juniper]

Time to farm then

[bitter gate]

i need to wait for rally and farm blue feather

[worthy horizon]

i wonder how much better that gear is than plain max stats

[bitter gate]

those give DR, right

[worthy horizon]

bc it was quite a bit off that

[bitter gate]

it wasn't really necessary when I tried it

the MPR luck was more important

[lost juniper]

Think so yeah

[bitter gate]

he had 3 MPRs on Lisia TM

and needed to save the sync to the third bar and brute second bar without getting crit

so he could kill in time before dying

My specs were exactly the same when I tried it pre-energy expansion and just felt it was impossible until quaggles did it, lol

but yeah, none of my gear has DR at the moment, just flat stats and damage

The Lisia clear also appreciates if the Icy Wind misses

though idt it's too necessary

a lot of the damage also comes from the sides than latios itself, notably the mence EQs hurt a lot

[inner turret]

I added a filter for that on the doc that you can use on pc

[inner turret]

Oh no

Oh that's so sad

Getting rafa'd on the final sync like that

[upper lance]

At least Anni Steven can use Flying Zone for his DPS

[stuck mantle]

If he hit crit surf or not ingo would die any way.

Regular surf this hp kill

2 eva fish is hard

[pliant glen]

I have to get it this week

[inner turret]

That was literally the winning run

And I got hit by the 1/24 nat crit for the first time

[tender horizon]

Oof

[true tartan]

that is a 50% crit

[inner turret]

Oooh if I kill bar 2 with a headbutt he has +1 crit

[bitter gate]

yeah, that's a coinflip

[inner turret]

Bruh that strat looked good but now I'm not so sure

With that +1 crit, after reaching bar 3 I only have like 12% of winning, I can't work with these odds

Every time a new route is found, there's something to block it

I swear it's possible but every single route ends up in ridiculously low odds of pulling the run

[gleaming cypress]

check twitter, maybe some JP already did it

[karmic willow]

Loveless

[inner turret]

We would already know by now

[dawn plume]

next reset begin assasSINAtion attempts of all LAs that can be evasion cheesed…

[heavy sinew]

oh right

sina

https://tenor.com/view/maçavras1-gif-16101498646883457546

[dawn plume]

absolutely zero reason to pull for her for me lol

she adds nothing that i don’t have other ice units that can already do

[bitter gate]

I wonder if she can do 12, actually

She probably can?

[dawn plume]

she’s pretty frail

too many arenas with sure hit moves

i won’t write it off though

[bitter gate]

Nah, her statline is good and she has some healing at the back

her gauge if anything is what I'm concerned about despite her cost and animations

I feel like she'll need FT

[dawn plume]

for cobalion she may need freeze

thankfully she has 50%

[bitter gate]

She can probably mow bar 1s fairly easily

[dawn plume]

yeah her kit is focused on doing big damage fast

once her berries run out she is OK

[bitter gate]

Yeah, after that her damage is kinda meh

And it's important to note that unlike other PB units, her nuke doesn't get PB at all

it's just her Icy Wind that has it

[dawn plume]

yea same issue as anni lillie

both anni lillies

[bitter gate]

I don't think she'll do 12

At least not without superawakening

I don't think she'll cross NC Marnie either, I think

[true tartan]

[karmic willow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQvwWNsKdy8&ab_channel=nao

what the hell

4th sync buff + max move

max invested blue apparently

[sturdy steeple]

It's not max invested

[stuck mantle]

Lol torn next lg🤣?

[dawn plume]

nemona needs a rerun… its giving

[true tartan]

yep

I was watching the stream of them trying that duo hahaha

took around 2 hours

[inner turret]

Ah so that was the stream

[true tartan]

ye

[karmic willow]

+8 grid but yeah

[karmic willow]

WHAT

[true tartan]

they were readjusting grids every few runs

[hallow gull]

I think with Cake, she might get Cress

I did about 40% Cress’s Bar 3 before die to Sync

[stuck mantle]

You did not win vs cress lol

Surprice

[dawn plume]

psychic weak

i hope she gets support cake

[stuck mantle]

Get tmp

[dawn plume]

give me a reason to use her sync move early

[lost juniper]

That's insane

[stuck mantle]

Guard and endure

[hallow gull]

I already did to 60% health

And about 3 move away for another Sync

Sadly no more Tm mpr

[stuck mantle]

When she get cake i do it:)

[dawn plume]

inb4 strike cake

[stuck mantle]

Now not invest

Field😁

Sprint field next one

O this would be nice

[dawn plume]

hmmmmmm

they better give victor field or they’re throwing

[tender horizon]

Torn Entei and whatever

Torn Entei Latios

[dawn plume]

ss blue getting strike

[rocky oasis]

sprint > striker on him

i wouldnt be opposed to N getting tech

His sync hits like a wet noodle for what its supposed to be

[river cliff]

It would work well with his superawakening

[lost juniper]

Not anymore with 10/5

His sync more than doubles with it

[stuck mantle]

N would be better get sprint or sup

[lost juniper]

Sprint is awful for him

He's still gonna be slow even with sprint

[stuck mantle]

Faster sync is always good

[lost juniper]

On him tech is a lot better

[stuck mantle]

For duo yeap but solo not realy

[lost juniper]

With tech he could reach very high numbers

[river cliff]

More damage is better

[lost juniper]

Sprint ain't gonna do much for solos either

[stuck mantle]

Torn solo easy

[lost juniper]

Latios can be done 10 EX too

He isn't getting anything else

[tender horizon]

Strike Field for SS Cynthia

Just to sell the unit

[sturdy steeple]

So true but watch him get tech cause screw us ig

[inner turret]

sorry sprint

[sturdy steeple]

Even worse

Sscyn is gonna be sprint sobbing

[tender horizon]

Fitting

[sturdy steeple]

Fitting yet bad

[river cliff]

Anytime there is any kind of sync acceleration on a kit I fear for the worst

[sturdy steeple]

Base strike role sprint makes me cry

Lana cursed

[lost juniper]

Lana should've gotten support

[inner turret]

field

[river cliff]

Should've traded with acerola

[dawn plume]

i’m almost at another field cake yet i have no more pairs to use it on

then again i caked every field exr pair i have like immediately

[inner turret]

🤝

actually no i still have ss cyrus

[shy sinew]

I still have Bellelba to cake for sure, I only know that without logging into my account because she isn’t EX for me yet

[rocky oasis]

i have so many units in need of support cakes

a lot of field cake units work just fine w/o it but the support cakes are in desperate need of bulk

i aint doing their solo w/o exr

like these are my field exr options and imo aside from ss ethan theyre good enough that they dont need it

it feels more like a luxury upgrade than anything

[shy sinew]

going to expose where I’m at, Bellelba 4/5 Ethan 3/5 Anabel/Clavell 2/5 Greta 1/5

[inner turret]

So many pairs with field r

[sturdy steeple]

theres so little actually

[sturdy steeple]

greta is p good with it even at 1/5, so is 2/5 clavell

[rocky oasis]

i have so many support exr units

[sturdy steeple]

cake helps lillie a lot in solos

[rocky oasis]

fair

i need support more tho

[sturdy steeple]

real

[inner turret]

True but also you can't cake them all

Unless you're a super whale or smth

[sturdy steeple]

actually considering there is so little with field it is more realistic you would be able to cake them all than any other role ex

[inner turret]

If you trade all your rally vouchers for field coins then sure

[tender horizon]

Ye thats what we are doing with our techs and supports just because theres so many exr tech and support

So IF some of these were fields instead then those vouchers wouldve been converted to field candy instead

[vital ibex]

thats what im sayin

[tender horizon]

I need Acerola, Fall Acerola and Lodge Acerola EXR NOW

[vital ibex]

strike exr base acerola

[tender horizon]

Shes gonna beat SSR Cynthia

[vital ibex]

one acerolillion dollars

[tender horizon]

Speaking of

Ok to the more appropriate channel i go

[shy sinew]

yeah I want to get around to all of these, just too little resources right now

[mint osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxC0ZsyMQ-s
Seriously?

[worthy horizon]

yeah she can handle a lot

did terrakion at the same investment the upload before that

[mint osprey]

Level 1 still. You all madmen

[rocky oasis]

level 1 1/5 incoming

yall are fucking insane

[brisk sapphire]

Comes with the LG territory

[worthy horizon]

nah if knight doesn't wanna do it i don't think there's anyone who will

[bright brook]

https://youtu.be/zCxGpjHX9XY?si=PxdR2M4sDBB9wA89

[true tartan]

https://youtu.be/cqDVVA0NKPE

there, done it

[stuck mantle]

Nice stdk

[bitter gate]

So far Sina's clears are a bit precarious

[true tartan]

get the unit and start doing them

many are free, but we know Luri won't do them because they're free lol

[stuck mantle]

Luri did torn only?

5/5 10E way too expensive🤣

[tender horizon]

I wasnt aware her b move is infinite usage

[stuck mantle]

Yeap b move all time can be use

[shy sinew]

got my Sina in 2 multis and she’s going to stay 1/5 for quite a while, I’ll have to see if there’s anything she can do at base

[dawn plume]

her first sync cycle she’s a menace but then she kinda falls off

kinda what i expected

[stuck mantle]

I did bulu and latios sina

Bulu is only can be done when avoid most moves🤣

Since damage is low

[bitter gate]

Her kill count is afaik 10 atm?

No Regis, no cress, no Moltres

[stuck mantle]

10🤣

How you kill even uxie? Latias

When i need like 80% bulu moves miss

And she barely win

No b move gauge no damage

[dawn plume]

wtf sycamores cookie is so bad LOL

[inner turret]

yup

At least it's better than Crasher Wake getting Rain Gear
I think

[bitter gate]

SS Diantha is now a member of the 13 club

[inner turret]

yeah

[bitter gate]

Luri decided to ditch Sina grinding and do Diantha solos instead

She apparently thought Cress was not doable

for Sina

[inner turret]

Only cress or torn is left for diantha?

[bitter gate]

torn

idt she can wipe bar 1 through the DR

without also just getting shrekt

[inner turret]

Nothing that Flying DR 45% can't fix

[true tartan]

there is SA lol

[bitter gate]

Well, Cress is doable if your Sina is superawakened, just that hers is not

yes

[true tartan]

if anything, that is still a possibility

[bitter gate]

I'm surprised Registeel is a no go

[true tartan]

just miss every move

[bitter gate]

Or was it thought to be an easy solo and just neglected

[bitter gate]

coinflips help too no

with HE for first two bars

[inner turret]

Sina has a no miss 180 bp move with piercing blows, why would she not beat cress

She even has +4 evasion to dodge toxic and twave

[true tartan]

survival lol

and if you don't skip over half

cress gains acc

[inner turret]

Just dodge

[inner turret]

B Move lowers acc

unless she has acuity ?

[true tartan]

nope, no acuity

[inner turret]

Then you don't care about acc buff

[true tartan]

guess the problem is just getting hit every now and then

[stuck mantle]

Problem is gauge also

[true tartan]

Luri had to use ft2 at some point

so she is at mercy of sure crit icy winds

[stuck mantle]

Ft2 sure hit sure crit

[true tartan]

with +4 sp atk

[bitter gate]

Yeah I predicted Sina would struggle with gauge without FT2 lol

she has no MGR on her B icy wind

[stuck mantle]

Luri is ritch in spend resource so she can do sina 10/10 🤣

[bitter gate]

she exhausted it for Diantha afaik

so she can't 10/10 her anymore

[stuck mantle]

I did sina solo no need 10 E so not sure why she spend it🤣

Sina is like one off last units need it

Nothing in grid help whit gauge any way

And gauge is big issue

[true tartan]

same reason why I think going all to 5/5 in some units... some just invest to use it with more tools or to have an easier time

there is no need to go 5/5 ex r for Latios

[stuck mantle]

For latios no need nothing🤣

But sina issue is gauge and grid not fix it

Even 30 e not make life easy

When need wait for gauge

Life easy fast track 9 in grid would change things

[dawn plume]

damn ss diantha 13/14

feels like so many units are that recently

[true tartan]

SA be like

[tender horizon]

Oh?

Diantha can solo Moltres now?

Impressive

[lost juniper]

For a while now

[tender horizon]

Whats the new one

Uxie ?

Also Cress??????

[lost juniper]

Cobalion and Cress

Uxie was done without awakening

[tender horizon]

Wtf

[true tartan]

so many going up to over 10 huh

[shy notch]

13 is no longer a “missing Moltres/Torn” category

I think Nemona should be able to get Cresselia

[bitter gate]

Where's Sina

9 kills?

[true tartan]

from what I see, yeah

[bitter gate]

What else did she miss

Oh right, terrakion

[true tartan]

maybe I'm missing anything, but she's missing

Cress, Regirock, Registeel, Terra and Moltres

no?

[bitter gate]

Yeah

I forgot about terrakion

She has to rely on coinflips/dodge or die

[sturdy steeple]

2060 solos

[bitter gate]

Endurance/superawakening probably gives 13

40 more for a 100

Probably will get it when the eevees come out

[shy sinew]

yeah… I tried to do 1/5 Lodge Shauna stuff and I am not strong enough for this

[bitter gate]

Does will get more solos I wonder

[inner turret]

He willn't

[sturdy steeple]

also we now have over 2000 solos that dont require superawakening

so we hit 2k this month anyways without the help of superawakening

with more to come...

[bitter gate]

Nice milestone

[true tartan]

55 runs require superawakening (considering from 1 to 5 level)

and are in 19 units right now

[shy sinew]

ah so I should be prioritizing getting my Raihan to 4/5, got it

fresh off the mix scout pity waiting to be used

[sturdy steeple]

arven better be joining 14 next month <3

[lost juniper]

SS Steven too

[shy sinew]

nonono don’t give me fomo for keeping Arven at 2/5

[sturdy steeple]

its ok he still slays so many arenas at 1/5

[shy sinew]

I needed 2/5 to get Registeel myself but mix scout bailed me out of skill issue

[sturdy steeple]

we love to see it

[stuck mantle]

Arven vs torn? He would need para

[shy sinew]

or massive damage reduction right?

[stuck mantle]

Rain huricanes bar 1 live lol

Not sure wat time would he need pass it

[sturdy steeple]

elaine didnt need para, arven just needs more stats of which awakening gives

[shy sinew]

imagine giving him more healing on hit in Raihan’s style

[stuck mantle]

Elaine heal non stop

[sturdy steeple]

dude already heals a ton as well

[stuck mantle]

But not as she

And she have mix

Special physical moves

[sturdy steeple]

she needs to use the phys to actually heal tho you know

[stuck mantle]

Yeap but she can switch

Arven no

I did torn and use swift

Not only physical moves

[sturdy steeple]

arven has better damage and is constantly attacking unlike elaine who needs to swap back and forth

just do the solo when his awakening comes out pls and thankyu

[stuck mantle]

Depend wat he get from it

Just pure sts may not be it

Win vs torn bar 1 on rain its big chalenge

I sure max stevens and nemona

[sturdy steeple]

make sure to run def crush if his awakening doesnt give def debuffs <3

[dawn plume]

don’t have much to do today so i’m back on this nonsense…

first time getting to 2nd half of bar 3

i actually managed to clear bar 2 without latios syncing here

first time that’s happened

i swear latios pulls out the secret piercing gaze on bar 3 just to crush any hope i might have

[sturdy steeple]

evil

[stuck mantle]

Nemona when exr cress and steven 10/10 on torn

Its my next pair up plans🤣

[sturdy steeple]

enjoy fishing for a buncha tm mprs for bar 3 cress with nemona

[stuck mantle]

2 candy from sina is waiting already😁

I just do diffrent

I use tmp when enter bar 3

First on start so now im have 1 in pocket

Keys is avoid crit vs cress

Also can nemona skipp half cress bar 1?

This would help whit miss on bar 3

[hallow gull]

Ofc she can

Just flinch to dead

[stuck mantle]

Then nice she can skipp it

Then bar 3 need hope she miss alot

[hallow gull]

Oh you means other half

When it gains accurate

[stuck mantle]

Yeap

Since this need avoid at all cost

[hallow gull]

Idk tbh, my gears isn’t that great

But never close to skip it

[stuck mantle]

If add like 30% from sync damage

Should help

I plan this vs cress when she get exr

[hallow gull]

So you think you can dodge or flinch Toxic forever?

[rocky oasis]

Just dodge everything EZPZ!

[stuck mantle]

Bro i whit 4 eva miss toxic and 3 accu up

So nothing new

[inner turret]

10/5 who

[shy sinew]

speaking of just dodge everything, what’s the current min investment for Sina on Latios?

[inner turret]

5/5 pretty sure lol

Nao is working on 1/5 tho

[stuck mantle]

Need just flinch luck:)

[shy sinew]

yeah I came very close to getting it on 1/5 20/20, pure 1/5 should be possible with better skill gear than what I have

[sturdy steeple]

I'm attempting it and it's so evil

Sina never dodges

Even tho the Dodge requirement isn't even that high, she still refuses to dodge

At 1/5 0/20 it sucks too

[tight rivet]

rain gear is a good skill but on a unit that has 0 rain whatsoever

[sturdy steeple]

...and on a non tanking unit, hence why mael implied it's bad

[inner turret]

https://youtu.be/Njhalqf6cOI

[stuck mantle]

Was expect you did whit extra +E

But 6 is alot

1 should be ok too

[inner turret]

I mean yeah but you deal less damage so it's worse

[sturdy steeple]

A massive improvement over 7 more candies

[stuck mantle]

Your grid have natural remedy

And you have flameproff

So kinda strange? No?

I did ingo since i like him ingo:) and he was 1 unit wat have it only why🤣 never think about solo🤣

Your grid

This how should look and have just 1E

If you use flameproff

[inner turret]

It was a mistake, I changed it

[stuck mantle]

You got for damage i saw it

This way is sure better yes

[sturdy steeple]

Check the end of the video

[inner turret]

The pomatools link was wrong at first and that's what he checked

[stuck mantle]

Yeap

But in the end

You could just hit not apply confusion:)

This was risky play🤣

One time this cost me lost vs him

[inner turret]

No I couldn't I already lost a run trying

[stuck mantle]

Why?

[stuck mantle]

He flinched so its same

[lost juniper]

The B-moves gets locked instantly once Moltres heals from flinch

So there's no insta-queueing

[stuck mantle]

Ok difrence was 1 special up vs 2

Its why you not kill it

[sturdy steeple]

I got Sina 1/5 20/20 @ adept

[shy sinew]

ooh nice! I will try it later when I’m not supposed to be working

[sturdy steeple]

My skill gear for her was real good and even then it was just barely enough

She's so bleh at 1/5

[shy sinew]

#gacha-and-flex message well guess no more 1/5 attempts for me

[karmic willow]

https://x.com/manimanikakaka/status/1857702835657572584?t=Z9eJqL3IpcIp2RlnLcllow&s=19

まにすら (@manimanikakaka) on X

混乱で光の壁潰れて怯みまで食らって"これ"
怯まなきゃ全然勝てるわね✋😄

Twitter · Nov 16, 2024, 8:30 AM

Chat is this doable?

[worthy horizon]

i can test that one

looks like it could be ok

but not rn

[tender horizon]

No i dont want torn next

[stuck mantle]

Lol they have some leaks from dena or wat🤣 now all do torn befor next lg? Kinda strange

[worthy horizon]

next one's most likely uxie latias terrakion i feel like

would be the most fitting

everything is either a straight rerun of 8 gauntlets ago or the same thing with a single replacement

[worthy horizon]

yeah i think so

vigilance on lyra, gonna try flying guard in a bit

you want light screen mprs to cooperate and stay basically the whole fight

it is mpr3 though

[karmic willow]

Send grids

[worthy horizon]

also my gear stats are really good

[karmic willow]

Remind me

What does maxie take again?

Ww3?

[worthy horizon]

yep

first two bars are very easy and you can wipe them pretty quickly

just brute forcing bar 3 needs light screen mprs and stuff

[karmic willow]

You know i seriously forgot

That maxie had healing sun

[karmic willow]

So flying better?

Idk i do not like crits

[worthy horizon]

always better

on your tank

should be blocking out more damage over 99% of the time

[karmic willow]

Is the

Sunny side up worth it?

Idk i like force field more

[worthy horizon]

force field could be better

i just got it first try with that grid bc plenty of mprs

so no time to switch or try it out

also idk where you're pulling the 6 extra energy to get to it unless you're overcapping

[karmic willow]

Urgh

[karmic willow]

I got it from the bulu solo...

[worthy horizon]

ah

[karmic willow]

Also got confused and lost my light screen

First run tho

Got to 50% bar 3

It is consistent enough

Though

I wonder what to do with Erika now

I know Erika SS Red is a thing

Or i am mad coping lol

Lemme try that

Oh wait nvm i did SS red and Evelyn already

So no need lul

[worthy horizon]

would be nice if erika + bp lusamine worked but i'm not sure she's surviving the spread damage off only healing sun

maybe tho

[worthy horizon]

nah i don't think bp lusamine is getting across with only 2 sunny days

i'm sure there's a lot of options for erika though, any damage dealer that isn't crumbling to aoe will work

[dawn plume]

hmm i got a bp super voucher today is it worth 2/5ing anyone or should i just hold for 3/5 morgan. i have regirock and dana 3/5 mesprit 2/5

[lost juniper]

I think holding for 3/5 Morgan is best

[karmic willow]

bar 2 is nah

[heavy sinew]

dang I used it on 2/5 raikou

[sturdy steeple]

Using a voucher on either 2/5 Raikou or on Morgan to then go to 3/5 are both good choices

Definitely wait until next LG tho

[rocky oasis]

going for 3/5 dana next month i think

[lost juniper]

I'm using my next ticket on Morgan

Raikou is already 3/5

[rocky oasis]

dana then morgan

[stuck mantle]

So wat solo can dexio do?

Whit 4 gauge no flinch no eva 🙂 look bad

[dawn plume]

yeahhhhh

he hits hard tho

and has 1 heal

if he could refresh his berries along with his b move each sync he'd be busteddddd

[stuck mantle]

Elio year ago 3/5 exr better then 10/10 exr dexio? Who work in dena this is for me mystery. If he have like jacq then would be op

[dawn plume]

variety elio is probably the better espeon yeah lol

amazing how we'll have 3 of all eeveelutions including eevee except 2 espeons and still only 1 jolteon

[raven crane]

Clearly not a solo built unit, lol.

Surely he'll get the basic ones.

Be good damage for harder ones. Hola Registeel duo food.

[inner turret]

It's ok, Trace will have a jolteon

[dawn plume]

trace for eevee day 2025

and uh

lodge penny

idk

[inner turret]

variety penny with gmax eevee

[dawn plume]

shouldnt that be a sygna suit 😭

[inner turret]

idk

[sturdy steeple]

omg yes please

she needs the big floof

[river cliff]

We need gmax meowth too

[inner turret]

Who even has a meowth

Also its gmax move effect isnt unique as it's the same as hatterene, sad

[heavy sinew]

Ss jessie

or Meowth and Meowth

[rocky oasis]

Idk nanu?

i remember using gmax meowth for extra money during a nuzlocke

[river cliff]

Our first pay day user, drops the worthless in game currency

[inner turret]

1/1000000 to drop 10 gems

[rocky oasis]

i mean

id be spamming it 24/7

and people will be making scripts to farm gems

[shy sinew]

and then they will all get banned because botting is anti-tos

[inner turret]

Considering how so few people got fissure out of metronome, and that it's only 10 gems, I don't think it's worth trying anyway lol

[stuck mantle]

Where you drop 10 gems lol? He

[inner turret]

Ez

[stuck mantle]

After latios this is end his solos🤣

If bulu he cant beat then its end

[bitter gate]

Huh. he actually gets shrekt?

[true tartan]

just make him fully awakened

and maybe he can do something more

like melting Terrakion lol

[bitter gate]

is this stoic or

[stuck mantle]

No crit 2

Wood hammer deal 1200 damage

[bitter gate]

I think you have to aim for the sync kill

[stuck mantle]

So never live

Then you cant pass bar 2

I try it now

If dont sync

Since his damage is realy low when out off berries like sina

[stuck mantle]

Give me 5 candy supa then why not🤣

[bitter gate]

you need to save your sync

for your bar 3

[true tartan]

you have a lot of them, just do it

[stuck mantle]

Then cant pass bar 2 if save sync

[bitter gate]

and use your TM against bar 2

[stuck mantle]

I have 4 supa candy

Im save them for nemona and stevens😁

I use tm vs bar 2

Since need live crit bar 2

But after dexio deal like 3/4 k damage

[worthy horizon]

def possible he gets hard stopped by bulu non-awakened and maybe superawakening gets bulu/terrakion

[bitter gate]

i wish I could a see a video, I'm actually surprised he can't even brute past Bulu

[worthy horizon]

could still see a jp user just manage to pull it off

but it does look very bad for all the rest

[bitter gate]

really overestimated his capacity to brute

lol

[sturdy steeple]

dexio more like flop

[gleaming cypress]

healthy healing maybe??

no hp recovery outside of the single use TM hurts

[stuck mantle]

He is trash for lg dexio for solo even duo will be issue gauge

Its just sad true

To do bulu you need sure supa

Normal one are cant do it

[true tartan]

[stuck mantle]

Win but need have realy good gears and miss from zen

Find some gears

Wat reduce dark moves

It was key

So honestly like i told only supa make this solo . Not many have this gears reduce

And tm need use bar 3

Since you need tank wood hammer

Cant avoid it

[worthy horizon]

gg

[stuck mantle]

Thanks but its about all his solo . Only thanks too good gears pure luck i got them . And they match perfect this stage. But if this unit worth scout def not:) recomend save gems its big dissapoint. Cheap maybe not realy expensive bad velio copy i would say:) rank 2/10

For duo you need good gauge sup. Since gauge its issue in log run

[tender horizon]

Dexio sak

[kind imp]

https://fxtwitter.com/EEVEEmath/status/1858074344540586382

[worthy horizon]

might be impossible if raikou didn't have special shield

really needed that rafa for dmg control

[stuck mantle]

I try never make it

Jp always have super luck whit solos. But hard copy it i try never close too sync bar 3 or die befor.

[pliant glen]

Uploading

[inner turret]

Damn gg

[pliant glen]

https://youtu.be/bYXwJit2VNg?si=GQcbUmXMufL00yR_

[dawn plume]

dexio confirmed sux?

[inner turret]

Yeah

[heavy sinew]

lmao Reddit says one thing and this channel says another

peak

[stuck mantle]

If you use dexio whit mf or arc itc then off course look nice:) in cs mode all units are great🤣 3 vs 3:)

[dawn plume]

LOL

[true tartan]

well, by "numbers", his damage is indeed good

but his execution is not as good compared to the others

that's the most I can think (I didn't think much of him either... too many Psychic types)

[dawn plume]

even reddit brain should be able to tell ss steven has aoe sync and dexio does not

[stuck mantle]

I think?😄

I like dont have dexio or use

But think:)

Sure they now it

Steven is way better even in cs mode since hit all:)

Not mention others modes😘

[karmic willow]

https://x.com/manimanikakaka/status/1858126418766610841?t=jwqoDdmhyHIE19P5oT6n8w&s=19

まにすら (@manimanikakaka) on X

防御デバフしたら逆鱗1発で2%削れるので50%強までは行けるようになり諦めがつきました

Twitter · Nov 17, 2024, 12:33 PM

[tender horizon]

Omg these ppl KEEP studying Tornadus clears

[tender horizon]

Normal Guard

[dawn plume]

he has it on his 1/5 grid

rare decent 1/5 tile

[karmic willow]

How tho

[dawn plume]

invested ss dawn is nigh unkillable

bring a mixed damage dealer it makes sense it can beat tornadus

[sturdy steeple]

Mixed damage dealer + offensive debuffing + defensive support

Tho that run is struggling

[karmic willow]

Yeah like

The issue with this is

Zinnia weak

[sturdy steeple]

Ssdawn isn't actually that impressive when it comes to endurance due to her limited healing... If only she healed herself with sync

Also yeah zinnia sucks

[dawn plume]

recuperation 1 coming with her superawakening

[karmic willow]

They got def debuff

[sturdy steeple]

PLEASE

[karmic willow]

So that is new

[karmic willow]

Imagine

[sturdy steeple]

You do often need defensive debuffs for brute forcing bar 3

Since torn buffs both of its defenses during bar 2, and you can't crit

[inner turret]

1st sync: hp recovery (m) 1

[dawn plume]

well that's the internal name

[inner turret]

no not recup 1

just 1st sync

[dawn plume]

its gonna be called something like

oh

[inner turret]

[karmic willow]

Yeah ik just that

Erm

[sturdy steeple]

Maniacal

[karmic willow]

Dc2 zinna rough asf

[sturdy steeple]

Yep she sucks!!!

[inner turret]

I so want next datamine now

The middle of the month is always the least interesting part lol

[dawn plume]

we know its on the 27th

cuz vietnam eos

[inner turret]

yeah ik

[sturdy steeple]

Ten days for me to write tips and difficulties for the sheet

[inner turret]

better get to work

for my solos you can just say read the description at least

[dawn plume]

30 new solos in 4 resets

[karmic willow]

0 multipliers 😭😭😭😭😭

[dawn plume]

i just saw that v hilbert cant buff his crit until 3/5

man

[sturdy steeple]

as least he has good healing

unlike CALEM

[dawn plume]

calem sees every other variety eeveelution has healing when moving under their wtz and decided nah imma be different

[sturdy steeple]

5 years and they still havent made healing under fairy zone

[true tartan]

not even giving him Draining Kiss

[sturdy steeple]

ikr

[dawn plume]

all 3 of them debuffing their own speed with their tm is so bizarre why did they do that

[true tartan]

because they have a way of free move for some reason

Hilda's Grassy Glide, Hilbert with Toxic Freebie 4 (but a 3/5, wtf DeNA), and Calem with Charm: Twofer (again, 3/5)

[sturdy steeple]

hilbert being saved by having a 1 gauge option

[dawn plume]

their kits are very grid dependent which is on brand for variety eeveelutions

[stuck mantle]

Issue non off them have max attacks or crits

Also no flinch or eva play

All off them will not do alot solos. Limited use .

[sturdy steeple]

lol

only calem fills me with dread for soloing

[stuck mantle]

Not see hilda solo bulu:)

Grass terrain? Vs him

Cant avoid moves

Powder snow sound nice but where is freeze in grid?

[sturdy steeple]

💀

you do know hilda debuffs atk right

[stuck mantle]

And wat after?

When bulu buff it back bar 3 when hit you hammer

Maks solo is 3-5 for each off them

[sturdy steeple]

you shall see

[stuck mantle]

Wat see? You think they do more?

[true tartan]

lol...

the solos can be guessable for them haha...

depends on the investment, of course

[dawn plume]

hilda has synthesis she will be fine

[inner turret]

hilda has infinite free move that also heals her

[tender horizon]

Oh

[raven crane]

That's Hilbert.

[shy notch]

Didn’t realize for the longest time grassy glide itself consumed no gauge under grassy terrain

[sturdy steeple]

the sslyra special

[shy notch]

I thought it was SS Lyra things lol

[stuck mantle]

Nop just the move

[sturdy steeple]

leafeon getting it is real awesome

[stuck mantle]

Only she have it so hard comapare

[raven crane]

It's the tech of Grassy Glide having priority under Grassy Terrain in the main series.

Since priority moves (Quick Moves) don't have gauge in this game..

[stuck mantle]

Hilda look the best off them

Calem the worst

[raven crane]

(Which is why Rillaboom is cracked in competitive.)

[stuck mantle]

Fuber is fuber if only have freeze

[shy notch]

Interesting. Never played with the tapus in msg

[raven crane]

Bulu doesn't get Grassy Glide anyway.

Rillaboom gets it and has Grassy Terrain as its hidden ability, so it went bonkers.

[dawn plume]

it was introduced in swsh

yeah rillaboom is kinda infamous for it

[shy notch]

Hidden abilities were too much of a hassle for me ha

[dawn plume]

it was so good that it got nerfed twice in sv lol

[raven crane]

Gotta love how Masters incorporated all but Rillabooms hidden ability (until Super Awakening I guess) and Inteleons still sucked.

Critical Strike THREE! SOO GOOD!

[dawn plume]

surely victor will get field exr and will replicate the success of rillaboom in swsh vgc

[raven crane]

Shoulda given him BOGO 9 in general and not just High Horsepower.

[karmic willow]

Oh hey i did it guys

F i r s t t r y

Timing sync move to cleanse BOTH confuse and flinch

[dawn plume]

damn

how invested is your ss dawn?

[karmic willow]

3/5 grid

Mainly bc my gear gives a lot of stats

[sturdy steeple]

gear the savior of LG

[karmic willow]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=012901038400&s0=3&l0=140&r0=5&p0=0&a0=18040702&t0=1111&g0=AAECAwQFBgkKDA8QERQVFicq&v1=011602048800&s1=5&l1=140&r1=5&p1=0&a1=21010101&t1=1111&g1=AAECAwQFBggLDh8hJScqLS8z&v2=0

Can go for tm mpr if you are willing to reset

[dawn plume]

lol @ gridding for flameproof juuuust in case heat wave owns you

[bright brook]

Pretty difficult for them to make crit an inteleon trait in a game where everyone can crit 💀

[raven crane]

Glances at Critical Strike 9 Cyrus.

I have a few ideas.

[karmic willow]

Yeah

Cs9 is a thing

[karmic willow]

I mean

Not like you would use the extra energy on anything else anyways

And that Dawn can cleanse it later on herself

But yeah

But uhh

Zinnia sync first

And dawn sync second for refill

Midpoint mend is useless

But yeah do be careful about bar 2

Try to keep sync regen on at all times

Gear is mainly inflated stats

She IS tanking a lot

[dawn plume]

drift is morty's strongest soldier

[karmic willow]

yeah no doubt

he is the morty guy

[true tartan]

right now, SS Morty, Ingo and Anni Raihan share the 6 full SA clears

[dawn plume]

ingo and ss morty both have the same key thing from their SA, the extension of their weather lol

[sturdy steeple]

Very nice to get

[stuck mantle]

Raihan are less time consume solos.

Morthy are like forever

[lost juniper]

I believe in 14/14 Morty

Eventually

[stuck mantle]

Vs moltres?

He heal better😒

[dawn plume]

yeah moltres is not happening lol

tornadus would require like 20+ sunny day mprs... which isn't IMPOSSIBLE...

[stuck mantle]

If he pass bar 1 bar 2 is easy

But bar 3?

Like 40 suns would need and pots mprs

Sun is good but why shauntal and raihan did

Since snow and sand deal more damage then moves

[lost juniper]

I wouldn't say it's impossible. 10/5 Morty is tanky as hell, has flameproof and a really good passive

[stuck mantle]

His issue is damage

Like 8 sync buff huricaness tank

[lost juniper]

It wasn't the sand that got Raihan the clear

[stuck mantle]

Sand deal damage

[lost juniper]

He has max move for Bar 3

[stuck mantle]

Even no max move

He could win like shauntal

Just sands mprs

[lost juniper]

SS Morty can totally get Tornadus if he passes Bar 1

He's super tanky and has sunny days to reset rain. the 20 mprs is probably to get past Bar 1 rather than 3

[stuck mantle]

Yes for bar 1 you need like 20

Since he will set rain after each sync

Interesting if he try torn or not?

[tender horizon]

Morty Latias and Morty Uxie is insane

I mean SS

[lost juniper]

Base Morty did Latias too

Also insane

[worthy horizon]

yea ss morty is very walled by moltres healing sun and tornadus seems too unrealistic

like if you set up a bot you could squeeze out a lot more potion mpr solos but you can't expect humans to be accomplishing everything theoretically possible

[shy notch]

How many sync buffs does SS Morty need to one shot a bar on Moltres? 20?

[true tartan]

https://youtu.be/ZeHOXprLzNg

[lost juniper]

Something like that

[lost juniper]

https://youtu.be/g0PSUhvg9O8
I also did it

Gonna post it here too

[dawn plume]

stomping tantrum defense crush 4…

what a tile

[shy notch]

Stomping tantrum and slash have been memed forever on Cynthia’s kit. Finally redemption for both

[rocky oasis]

sticking w/ grant duo

[worthy horizon]

i don't think any superawakening is worth it if you're only concerned with gauntlet output, usually gonna be something better to put resources toward

one of those things you do for the sake of it more than anything else

just to have it be that strong

[dawn plume]

yeah lol

even like 10/5 anni raihan i'd rather use those candies to 3/5 two other tech units and 2/5 another

if we get more superawakening candies on their own then maybe

[sturdy steeple]

i think the three champion banners offer a unique dilemma tho, if you are willing to pay a handful of gems for one of your fav champions to get them from 5/5 to 10/5 (even tho they already have overpowered similar alts) then thats fine, despite not actually being worth it normally

like its verymuch not worth it to invest 5 normal candies just for awakening a single unit just for a handful of extra potential solos (ofc its worth it if its your favorite units)

but these champion banners will be like the most worth it awakening deal-wise we may see for a while

considering how much cheaper it is to pay for those 5 specific candies with paid gems as opposed to using normal hard earned candies to trade for awakening candies

a hell of a deal for those who love cyn lance or steven

[chrome halo]

I will just slowly collect sa candies from pf banners when i want to pull

Hi Salamance! ||Secretly throws the ice shard away||

[brisk sapphire]

I wonder if they'll do more of these kinds of tiered scout

[raven crane]

I really hope they implement some sort of coin system for Super Awakening so that we aren't just limited to pulling. These paid Champion banners have been a great opportunity for not only Super Awakening, but dupes too (4/5 Cynthia -> 7/5 in two multi's and 3/5 Stove -> 10/10 in the full rotation + a Daily on the Lodge banner.)

But there really needs to be a better way to implement them, not just for paid players or summoning on PokeFairs. Otherwise it can almost take away from being a buff to old pairs if you practically need to pull on new pairs to actually get the resource, lmao.

[chrome halo]

Probably 3 of them for each batch? Cannot say until we see datamine

[raven crane]

https://tenor.com/view/mega-salamence-salamence-lorekeeper-zinnia-zinnia-pokemon-pokemon-oras-gif-3867213080919351118

Hello Gakon.

[chrome halo]

[raven crane]

I feel that'd be generous, which is why I don't see it happening.

Though that comes off the wrong way, just not sure I see them doing it..

[heavy sinew]

not a rafa fan confirmed

[brisk sapphire]

I was hoping the new coop event they teased would have ways to get woke candies

[chrome halo]

The first batch releases 3 banners with 3 champions so i can see them being a pattern for the next 2 months, or even a monthly thing

[raven crane]

Perhaps...

I hope that isn't their method of keeping us from getting Super Awakening materials for free.

Easily the thing that makes people hold their breath the most with this system.

[dawn plume]

well... ss cynthia, alder, and diantha need superawakening still...

[raven crane]

At least these banners served to take my low dupes to high dupes, woo.

[shy sinew]

December SS Cynthia tiered and then… surely there’s another Cynthia alt that needs SA… right?

[bitter gate]

Anabel v cob might be doable.... But I need a stupid amount of luck

Kek

All I had to do was cook

[karmic willow]

F O U R

[raven crane]

Dana and Brendan.

[karmic willow]

Mixed attacker with speed + synchro healing

Tho 3/5

[raven crane]

Dana and Morgan 3/5 for me, yippee.

[dawn plume]

lmao wtf

just felt like doing it

wonder what her sa will be

[bitter gate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGhLWspD5gk

9th kill

Latias and Cresselia are impossible atm

Torn/Terrakion/Moltres she can do but requires ridiculous RNG

[bitter gate]

needs just a smaller buff and she can do it really