Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)

[tiny hedge]

Funni

[shy sinew]

literally just had a run where I hit myself in confusion as many times as I got mirror shot accuracy drops (3 each)

[river cliff]

Is confusion 50% or 33% at base in this game?

Because it sure feels like 50

[young forge]

Maxie / Lodge Blue duo for Azelf or Registeel?

I actually did some pre planning this time, but still having trouble placing teams.

[worthy horizon]

flinch on its own gets more mileage on azelf

[tiny hedge]

time to use Kabu for the first time

uhhhh.... i guess on Coba

[worthy horizon]

and maxie provides mixed attacks too

without dealing innate debuffs

[tiny hedge]

Kabu + Barry on coba overkill?

[worthy horizon]

if it works it's decent

i have barry to pair with bp cheryl for azelf

[tiny hedge]

ok no it doesn't work.

i need Trap.

[worthy horizon]

typically people are using blaine with non-3/5 kabu

[tiny hedge]

lodge lillie might work

[worthy horizon]

she should but you might have to do some brute forcing

unless she's strong enough to half bar skip

[tiny hedge]

should be fine provided coba isn't immune to trap

[worthy horizon]

yea -6 coba should get outhealed for a while with trap up

[karmic willow]

So nice being able to replicate this

[river cliff]

There we go, done with 2/5 red

[worthy horizon]

oo nice

[river cliff]

I can't believe electabuzz survived a sacred sword

[dawn plume]

what investment is agatha

dc wally + supp arcanine good duo but needs 2 stone edge misses... which is a little bit cringe but i managed

dont regret 3/5ing wally he gud

[pliant glen]

Damn.

[dawn plume]

yea i put her on azelf

the other two just suck

[tiny hedge]

This was miserable.

[lost juniper]

You really want +6e on her to grab Vigilance on grid

It makes soloing with Bea so much easier

[dawn plume]

interesting use of lodge lillie

i just did her duo w kali on azelf

its really easy

[pliant glen]

That

[worthy horizon]

pretty important use case with kabu, kali is a bit more flexible

[dawn plume]

i guess kabu would need another trapper

[worthy horizon]

yea kabu is demanding on trap and lodge lillie does a lot more to keep herself alive than most other options

[cedar pawn]

After some reworking and a new run I got to 38 Auto teams.

[raven crane]

That's handy...

Are all your characters 3+/5? Or varying move levels?

[karmic willow]

What the hell is wrong with cobalion

Seriously

Always a fucking crit on stone edge

[raven crane]

Isn't it like, 50/50?

Heightened crit chance and all.

[worthy horizon]

yep

[cedar pawn]

Most are 3+/5 but not all. Some are 1-2/5

[raven crane]

I see..

I'll work on making and modifying some of those for my own use tomorrow, desperately need deluxe cookies, so 20-30 auto teams would do me really well...

[kind imp]

If he has acc buffed
If not 20/40/40

[raven crane]

What do you mean?

[kind imp]

20 to miss

[shy sinew]

but it's a 50% crit

[kind imp]

40/40 to hit/crit

[raven crane]

Okay nerd.

I'm kidding.

[heavy sinew]

Erm ackshually

[karmic willow]

I cannot even get past bar 1 with v lucas

[worthy horizon]

feels like morty has a 1/50 shot to get past bar 1 on azelf

[river cliff]

Pretty chill alternative to the solo

[worthy horizon]

i still haven't touched bar 3

[dawn plume]

i tried that solo for like 10 minutes and got to bar 2 once lol

literally had to dodge everything

[cedar pawn]

Units not 3+/5
Colb-Azelf 3: Rachel: 1/5
Regi 3-Colb 6: SC Lillie 1/5
A6-R8: 1/5 HoliSyca, 1/5 SC Diantha, 1/5 Gusha, 2/5 Argenta
C9-A11: 1/5 NY Clair, 1/5 NC Bede, 1/5 Iono, 1/5 P Mallow. 2/5 Rika
R11-R13: 1/5 Foxanne, 1/5 NY Sabrina, 1/5 Arc Lance, 1/5 PMarnie

[raven crane]

Thank you very much.

Currently have my 5/5 Arc Suit Lance + V Falkner on Registeel auto duty, lol.

[karmic willow]

Stupid game

Ahhhh

20th try

Crit sacred sword

30th try

Still cannot get past THE FIRST MOVE

[cedar pawn]

I go long for the hell of it but getting 15-20 teams is pretty solid for 5/5 cookie drops.

[raven crane]

[misty gorge]

I remember someone beating Azelf with 5 Star Team Rocket

[worthy horizon]

thinking duos with morty should aim to debuff azelf somehow

[worthy horizon]

i'm surprised both listed morty solos use unbending, i'm using e9 and tanking physical better prob bc skill gear

[karmic willow]

Why is it that the first battle i did with vigilance is a win?

[tiny hedge]

Because vigilance op

[karmic willow]

Yessssssss

[dawn plume]

how does dana/scyther work

my scyther is dropping to azelfs 2nd sync every time

[river cliff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxxzpJBpk3I&t=192s

There's some other ways to do it and it's significantly easier with dana EXed, but this is how I did it without the ex

[worthy horizon]

yea just kills before 2nd sync

screwed otherwise

[dawn plume]

also gauge sucks

[river cliff]

Bar 1 is the best time to blow the seuns

Revenge boost ls is your friend

This attack debuffer + sp def buffer strategy has been working a lot better than I'd have thought across several clears

[dawn plume]

hmmm ok

[inner helm]

Wait you can battle the same boss over and over? I thought you had to beat all three and then it resets

[worthy horizon]

after you beat all 3 you do it again and that's how you build a streak

[inner helm]

Ah i see nvm

[karmic willow]

Another super close call

[karmic willow]

I would argue phoebe better but niceeee

[brisk sapphire]

Farthest I reached I'll try again later

[river cliff]

I think phoebe is a bit easier to flex

Physical def > sp def in this gauntlet

[karmic willow]

Still better for a mostly atk mon

[raven crane]

You're welcome.

[karmic willow]

No

[raven crane]

Yes.

[karmic willow]

Like

My reasoning is that

0 flinches so might as well squeeze all of it's defense

[river cliff]

Either one will probably end up going with og sophocles anyway so it likely won't matter

[karmic willow]

Cynthia on azelf bc azelf's front is still sp.atk

[river cliff]

Energy ball tho

That does not feel good

[karmic willow]

Flinch

[river cliff]

Well then defenses barely matter

[dawn plume]

azelf dodged bug buzz +1 evasion is such a joke

[worthy horizon]

yea giving up on morty azelf

even with lv 150 +2e and near perfect stats on skill gear

[dawn plume]

this was not supposed to take my whole night

[heavy sinew]

SS Hilbert on azelf is awful

Who made this happen

[dawn plume]

the solo?

doesnt it need extra energy

and 5/5

oh 4/5

[worthy horizon]

3/5 does it with tech arcanine for 1 flinch + meat shield

not a solo i'd touch

can buy an extra few turns with literally anything

[dawn plume]

i used a flinchmon last time yeah with 3/5

i have him caked now though that +60 hp and +40 sp atk gonna come in clutch…

[heavy sinew]

Yea I got him 4/5 +8e

trying to get it done but elek was right this shit is an RNG fest

[urban lodge]

Does anyone have a f2p team to clear cobalion..

[shy sinew]

There’s definitely one in the solo doc under the LA guides/info tab, otherwise you could pore over the repo to find some other ones

[tiny hedge]

There are plenty of f2p clears for cobalion

[drifting blaze]

can i ask for what grid to use for nc leaf solo then? thanks!

[urban lodge]

Do you have like a link or file to all the available team cuz I cant find them

[chrome halo]

+pins

[worn skiff]

See below on how to check channel pins!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/957144362624634931/1214245497754091570/Pin.mp4?ex=65f8693e&is=65e5f43e&hm=b9d9e7a1a428377ebb0ef122514359d2405dd3f4e0775c17f2146eb06ca90a67&

[worthy horizon]

it's actually pretty hard to find now

[drifting blaze]

is it possible for use to see the grid or were you just using the ones on the doc?

[tiny hedge]

You need something akin to this.

And pray for potion mprs

[drifting blaze]

okay, thanks

[river cliff]

Might be one of the most jank clears I've ever done

1/5 Gloria, literally burned, poisoned, and paralyzed it by the end of the fight

[tiny hedge]

Damn, no james

[river cliff]

You're not missing out on much lol

[tiny hedge]

I'm missing out on a clear

[river cliff]

I'm not sure I'd recommend this one

[misty gorge]

Woah I expected Pyro Ball to be a 3-4 gauge move

[river cliff]

Fuel economy 2 is a good passive

Normally it is 4 gauges

[brisk sapphire]

Registeel I've had it with you and your para proc

[brazen acorn]

Poppy on cobalion i need a support not named lana

[bitter gate]

@median swan I noticed you picked up Shauna/Clay

I actually improved it to Hilbert/Clay, lmao

for future reference, I suppose

[median swan]

ok, but hilbert isn't a rival

(but seriously cool that hilbert works too)

[bitter gate]

fair

I have a 3/5 non EXed DC Wally

I have no idea what to do with it

pls bestow thy wisdom master

[median swan]

EX it of course

(think para + atk debuffs are a rarer combo than sp def + def debuffs so i'd still put it in coba)

i think i saw eggmon duos with him here?

[bitter gate]

will figure it out as I go since there's a lot of spacing needed this LG with many "full clear" units

i actually used Leaf on Registeel instead of Azelf

idk if I'll regret that

but Registeel has too many annoying clears

[tender horizon]

Looks nice

[karmic willow]

Imma plan that too tbh

Like natural def drop is

Nice

[karmic willow]

This feels deja vu somehow

[karmic willow]

Sup arcanite

[bitter gate]

I have a 3/5 uninvested mix blue, question is what I throw it at

my gut tells me just use SS Acerola 1/5 with him and just

make a fast kill

[karmic willow]

Be me

Wait for coba to hit another move

3rd poison jab

Poisoned

Dammit

[karmic willow]

Tech magby

Ez cobalion duo

[brisk sapphire]

Finally the Max Move crit lol

Now do I want to do this BP Barry solo...

[worthy horizon]

toss in gardenia

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=009900040700&s0=3&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=18040801&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFBhMUFhocHiEkJigrLC0&v1=002700040700&s1=5&l1=150&r1=5&p1=5&a1=18020301&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFBgkMDxETFBUWFx4gIycuLw&v2=0

[brisk sapphire]

Ooh now we're talking 👀

Thanks I'll try this out later

[bitter gate]

oh okay

im lazy to rerecord but

3/5 EX without E/R works

now I have to redo Rose Registeel and this don't I :V

[brisk sapphire]

I also need to look into that Rose

[stuck mantle]

Easy?

[bitter gate]

pretty easy, yeah

just timing

i followed the existing EXR clear

also, I do not intend to tilt my ass doing the Seaking duo

egg on my face if this is too much

[cedar pawn]

Many have Sync or attack builds. (Depends on total Speed.)

Supports are mainly Potion/bulk builds.

[karmic willow]

Giga impact nat crit

This game is a joke

It fucking happened AGAIN

It happened 2 times before i can wjn

This game loves wasting my time and patience

[worthy horizon]

i'm only just remembering that i managed to do the bp barry solo on coba last time

i think i'll attempt it again

[karmic willow]

Death

[inner turret]

Smh not using the para flinch egg on the stage that wants para and flinch

[karmic willow]

Which is...?

Cobalion? Nah i got plenty enough

Sometimes you gotta

Make choices

[feral plank]

EXR really did help, even though i played It like shit

[rocky oasis]

dark zone healing did wonders for his solos

[stuck mantle]

I use same grid on cryrus like befor

Exr only help if use zone acceleration then easy switch void pulse

[feral plank]

I JUST SAW THAT, I DIDN'T USE IT D:

i didn't know he had new grid since the role

[feral plank]

no dc2?exr i suppose?

[karmic willow]

Bro i ran healthy healing

I nuke hard enough i just need to live

[feral plank]

u dodge enough too D:

[karmic willow]

Yes

[feral plank]

i'll try later ig

How many time does the no stat thing stay on?

[karmic willow]

Uhhh

You have reload hit

So

No need for no stat

[feral plank]

just asking, i have enough energy to get it

[karmic willow]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/1201/80200?s=3&l=140&r=6&p=0&a=21010101&g=AAECAwQFExYZHR8gIyUpLC4v

Hit reload is

Also better for bar 3 dps

[karmic willow]

WHAT IS THIS

Mannnn

[chrome halo]

[tender horizon]

Alright its Sinnoh day

[tender horizon]

I dont rememver this clear being so tight

[thick topaz]

The notes for Aaron v Azelf say use Defend Order wisely. Can someone elaborate? When is the right time to use it?

[rocky oasis]

After flinch. basically > atk order > def order / TM > quadqueue atk order

imo it aint that bad w/ skill gears

at least not now it aint

[thick topaz]

alright tysm!!

[rocky oasis]

can Also use it right before azelf syncs

The whole point is to flinch chain azelf to death

if azelf aint flinching use atk order again

if it is then def order

[latent bear]

ty for that! does it matter if some units are EX'ed or not?

[worthy horizon]

if azelf's sync counter is at 1 you can just queue defend order after attack order and it works whether you flinch or not

[cedar pawn]

If it’s from one of my older teams. Not as much. But EXing makes them more reliable overall

[karmic willow]

Love me a quick cure

[tender horizon]

Forgot that Lucas was so strong i OHKO bar 1 by accident

Too lazy to redo it with rng

So i take this duo

[worthy horizon]

objectively overkill, that one

at least the sync dmg is

[karmic willow]

It is insane how much this game hates me

+1 crit they CRIT EVERY HIT

I hate azelf

Fucking psychic crits

400 hp down the drain

[tender horizon]

Sc barry Thorton duo failed so its back to this jackshit team

[twin aurora]

Well, 0 potion refreshes but 1 of 2 sacred swords dodged

[tender horizon]

Its a paralysis proc not a dodge because coba ignores evasion buffs

So thats lucky

[twin aurora]

Woah, kinda lucky it is

[karmic willow]

Tbolt crit for 800

Water pulse crit for 400 on emmet

EVERYTHING CRITS AT +1

[upper lance]

How easy the solo is ?

[karmic willow]

Yes

Just don't get crit haxed

[quaint tartan]

Guys Gl to everyone streaking! I won’t be able to pop off on lb bc irl stuff going on, but I’m cheering for y’all

[raven crane]

Same.

[wicked tusk]

someone missed a node on the repo

autos with full teams of three~?

[wicked tusk]

@shy sinew

[inner turret]

sometimes people dont get a full grid

[wicked tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-prowler-goku-goku-mad-goku-dbs-dbs-gif-11120329515669448575

[shy sinew]

there is a good chance I didn’t have orbs for it back in lg13

I also would not run adrenaline fwiw

[wicked tusk]

what would you run?

i'm doing your run rn

[inner turret]

This was WAY TOO CLOSE for comfort

[shy sinew]

just an extra cs2

[wicked tusk]

and did you have your Aaron EX'd?

i dont remember you syncing with him

[shy sinew]

Aaron is EX now but was not then

[wicked tusk]

ahh

i'll change it to CS2 tyy

[shy sinew]

I have also lowered(?) it to EBugsy who also hits very hard weirdly

[wicked tusk]

this team works really well in theory

[wicked tusk]

if you had to have a different duo with EBugsy who would you pick?

i'd like to do an EBugsy run after aaron

[full pond]

clutch

[tiny hedge]

That looked miserable.

[inner turret]

It shouldnt be

I just got SO unlucky

[wicked tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/spheal-he-agree-nodding-pokemon-legends-arceus-gif-24844405

[dawn plume]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-cat-hyper-gif-9540792418684483949

[karmic willow]

I am thinking she goes with zelf for flincher but

Would love to see some people cook

[inner turret]

wont hilda die of psychic moves

[karmic willow]

Sc Hilda

[inner turret]

yeah

she's psychic weak

[karmic willow]

Sc hilda

[inner turret]

ok im dumb nvm

[karmic willow]

Sc Hilda

Obviously summer Hilda goes to registeel

Like mannn i am out of flinchers for real

@errant plume @thick dawn i guess Zerena can duo with egg Wigglytuff? Unless you guys are using her for uhh, body slam

Also do either of you guys have plans for Hitmonlee yet?

[dawn plume]

luv this duo

max quake on bar 2 skips registeel’s sp def buffs and gives skyla sp def so she can take a hyper beam

cant get paralyzed though

[inner turret]

that's the basis of any registeel clear ngl

[feral plank]

of any lg clear , don't get haxxed

[dawn plume]

though doing math the odds of not getting paralyzed by 2 body slams and 2 tbolts is like… 39%

ouch

[karmic willow]

RAHHHHHHH

DRAGON INSTALLLL

[feral plank]

classic

[karmic willow]

Wat will you do with Ingo?

[dawn plume]

idk

mines only 2/5

[robust nymph]

incredible

[bitter gate]

is there a teams repository for LG17 planners

I remembered seeing some links

let me steal hue

[thick dawn]

don't let it be you chat

[thick dawn]

no

[tiny hedge]

I want to scream.

[pearl beacon]

Welcome in my world
Are you using Samsung/Android?

Damn everyone is pushing so hard I can barely do 3 clears /day

[hallow gull]

I don’t even touch LG yet

[river cliff]

But event victor

[karmic willow]

Event victor and what?

On what?

[river cliff]

Event victor and wigglytuff on azelf

[tiny hedge]

steam your runs. i want content.

[hallow gull]

I want to finish my banner first at least

[dawn plume]

this has already happened to me

[dusk yoke]

pls dont ever use Aaron on auto 😭

[karmic willow]

Egg golem my beloved

82

[dawn plume]

today i learned

if the move that activates shell trap makes turtonator flinch

the shell trap wont go off

💀

[misty gorge]

What egg mon did you use

[karmic willow]

Bro

[misty gorge]

How was I supposed to know 😞

You could’ve been using different egg mons

[dawn plume]

by reading…?

+reading

[worn skiff]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855438548684374045/1069103333429747752/image-2.png

[karmic willow]

Well that was easy

6 more clears and I am 1/3

[inner turret]

@lost juniper in your lg14 doc you swapped these 2 timestamps

[lost juniper]

Oops

Gonna fix it

[chrome halo]

LG14

Man i feel old

[errant plume]

Poyrgon is enough for me

[tiny hedge]

BURN EVAPORATE. LEAVE NOTHING BEHIND.

i tried ninetales instead of blaine, and it was too RNG intensive. you need to avoid two natural acc stone edges

[bitter gate]

lets not try this at home ladies and gentlemen

[chrome halo]

that doesn't sound too bad

[bitter gate]

it takes a lot of finnesse to rely on purely poison for Cob

[chrome halo]

EX on Giovanni too i assume?

[bitter gate]

yes

[chrome halo]

rip

[bitter gate]

but gl figuring out how I got it lol

[chrome halo]

i don't wantto EX him

[dawn plume]

bruhhh am i gonna have to ex ryuki

[bitter gate]

I feel like after I did Shauna/Clay I decided to limit test

[dawn plume]

this clear aint working for me

[bitter gate]

a lot of mono poisons

it's hilarious

[inner turret]

Speedruuun

[kind imp]

This?
https://tinyurl.com/PMEXDiscordStreaks

[lost juniper]

Fixed

[cedar pawn]

Yeah. Sometimes I do use Duo or Solo teams but it’s often more reliable to run trio teams.

[lost juniper]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AglKb1232_ISAxUhC5oiCAsuns8mtuMTgc_W8bb8w8I/edit?usp=sharing

Sharing my LG17 doc

If anyone is interested

[karmic willow]

Bro thinks he can hide stuff

You're the next Adam or something

You didn't even send the iono grid

[karmic willow]

Ex supports trust

@chrome halo

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=005100074501&s0=5&l0=140&r0=5&p0=0&a0=13010602&t0=11111&g0=AAECAwQFBgkMDg8QERQVHB8uLw&v1=014000003300&s1=5&l1=140&r1=4&p1=0&a1=21010101&t1=111&g1=AAECAwQFERobHB8iIyQmKSst&v2=0

Grid here

Either or poison tail HE

Main issue is letting olivia nuke

[bitter gate]

you guys are smart enough to figure it out

[karmic willow]

[karmic willow]

So what are the plans for Igglybuff?

Also i used mine on SS Leon

Starmie unfortunately got tangled with maylene

So rip that too

Also

TO WHOEVER SAID SS LEON CAN SOLO AZELF

NO

BAR 3 WILL LITERALLY TOAST YOU

Doesn't matter if you dodge every move on the planet

I did SS Leon and Porygon

It was VERY close

Literal endure moment

[tiny hedge]

Agony

No defense drops, only topsy turvy

[dawn plume]

anyone got the video of the ryuki and supp fearow clear

coba

[karmic willow]

my channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbXILwMaFgg&t=40s

[karmic willow]

do tech zubat instead

it sucks

it gives enough speed

i did fearow cuz i though ryuki's gauge sucks

turns out shell trap allows you to stall and gain a crap ton back

[dawn plume]

used golbat already

no way thats easier though

im having trouble w this lol fearow is dying too early

also i think my ryuki isnt strong enough shell trap couldnt take out bar 2

i got hella powerups i might as well just do it…

[bitter gate]

skyla pls crit

jesus that was scary

[dawn plume]

that looks horrible

[river cliff]

I'm probably sending skyla in with evelyn

[bitter gate]

not really, but dependent of maintaining Janine's health mostly

[river cliff]

Got a 1/5 anni lillie and mc solgaleo vying for Brock as a partner, which one can afford to go cheaper?

[bitter gate]

some madlad did an uninvested fall roxanne 1/5 with... tech omastar

like, the amount of flinching required to make that shit work lol

[young forge]

Why is the Nessa / Tech Gyarados duo against Registeel so terrible. I’ve done it before but there’s so many non guaranteed things like restrained freebie procs, defense drop procs, etc

[river cliff]

I'm not sure why I was so afraid of trying lodge N's solos before, they're really not that bad

[heavy sinew]

Doesn't it need like mind games or something

[drifting blaze]

Why is nc leaf so hard to land two burns

[heavy sinew]

What are you trying

[drifting blaze]

This is so triggering. lol. Should I change her grid to land the burnt easier?

The first one

Cobalion

[heavy sinew]

What team

[drifting blaze]

Nc leaf solo

With the status buff luck skill

[heavy sinew]

Status buff?

You mean hostile environment?

Cause that's the tile to get if you wanna solo

[drifting blaze]

The one easier to land burnt or other status move. I think that is what it’s called

Troublemaker 1

[heavy sinew]

That doesn't help at all

It only works for status moves

[drifting blaze]

Rip

[heavy sinew]

Like sing

Are you following the solo video?

[drifting blaze]

Ooo. I thought burnt was the same as sing and para

I asked above and they sent me a grid that I’m using rn

And I do get potion refresh. But really hard to land those burns

[heavy sinew]

I think you're just supposed to spam leer

That's what the video shows

And have stoic just in case

[drifting blaze]

Spam leer and use only sync move?

[heavy sinew]

Yes

[drifting blaze]

I’ll give that a try. Thanks

[heavy sinew]

https://youtu.be/kT3fCX0CCaA?si=a99AsDxt37rHbWvx

[drifting blaze]

Btw. Are the vids from doc or have to look up on youtube?

[heavy sinew]

This is Adam's video as a vuide

[heavy sinew]

They're on the doc

[drifting blaze]

Thanks.

[heavy sinew]

Np

[young forge]

is the Chase solo against Cobalion an auto solo? Mine is 2/5 EX

[stuck mantle]

Chase auto can get immune on para

Bar 3 then will be alot issue

Need bar 2 look wat you do

[young forge]

what exactly needs to be done manually

[stuck mantle]

On 2/5 it will be luck

Since you cant flinch

Issue he get para when he get hit on this move lv

And its random when have evasion

A you have thunder shock hostile

On 2/5 then you can apply para if he miss when you need it

[young forge]

that still doesn't really answer my question

i see the recommended grid doesn't include hostile environment, but i can grid for it if that would make it easier

oh, Naomi used Mind Games 2. i wonder if Fighting Guard would be better, since the Bar 3 Sacred Swords really hurt, and you can't dodge them?

[tiny hedge]

You don't need hostile environment because getting hit already paralyzes.

you can avoid all attacks from Cobalion except aerial ace and swift, but what sadas is saying is Chase will have trouble actually dealing with Bar 3. and potentially part of bar 2 because of Cobalion gaining immunity making it just pure evasion luck

[young forge]

my question though was how does manual help with this

like is it about saving Kanto Analysis for Bar 2 or Bar 3 for a stronger sync?

or gridding for circle damage reduction?

if it's just evasion luck, then i'm fine with running auto until it works while I do other things

[tiny hedge]

It would most likely have to be the AI just spamming TMs and the circle making it impossible to fully survive bar 2 yea

i didn't realize you were talking about auto teams, i only saw solo

[young forge]

Well i'm talking about an Auto Solo

[tiny hedge]

yea, auto will waste all the Circle TMs when it would be better to just do it manually to save the HP recovery from circle

especially when evasion can only help so much until you get hit with a sacred sword and 40% of your HP is just gone

[inner turret]

Finally used all normal types

Took 24 clears

[dawn plume]

i just did 2/5 chase on coba i wouldnt recommend doing it on auto

you have to time your syncs well

on bar 2 sync right before coba does so you don’t waste paralysis

cuz if it becomes immune too quickly you’re cooked

hostile environment is bad actually cuz the popup is slow and coba will sync before you can

and cure its para

@young forge since u asked

[young forge]

Isn’t it just make sure Cobalion is paralyzed when syncing?

[inner turret]

no because on bar 2 cobalion heals para from sync but also from half bar

so if you sync him to half bar before his own sync, he'll heal the para from the half bar but the sync won't heal anything

and thus it won't build up its immunity to paralysis

[dawn plume]

if you sync when cobalion is 1 away from sync it will cure from half bar hit you and paralyze again then it will sync and get more immunity

so you wanna sync right before coba does

its not super difficult its just specific

not really autoable

if its immune on bar 3 chase can’t win

sacred sword is too strong

[young forge]

okay i understand - the strategy specifically is to enter Bar 2.5 just before Cobalion's sync to prevent additional paralysis cures

[inner turret]

yes

[young forge]

hmm on my last run, Cobalion reached sync before I did though

[upper vigil]

exr?

[river cliff]

Yes

[karmic willow]

what the hell

[tiny hedge]

Typical sleep stall

[dawn plume]

this does not seem typical

[tiny hedge]

i mean, it literally is just sleep spam

[blissful rose]

How are y'all doing so far for this gauntlet?

[tiny hedge]

actually enjoyable

when you aren't soloing

[raven crane]

Actually enjoyable.
Autoing.

[stuck mantle]

You can dodge it as well i did it now

[upper vigil]

this was very enjoyable no exr blast burn carry

[wicked tusk]

Bro bought out the fire squad

[stuck mantle]

Lol luri now record lg clears on yt

[shy gale]

Link?

[shy sinew]

unrelated but wait what do you mean there's a second splatoon speedrunner playing legendary gauntlet

[upper vigil]

haha

[upper vigil]

yup I haven’t done it in over a year but nice to see someone else here

[nova grove]

ive passed where i stopped last time's grinding; how high do yall go with yours? im thinking aim for 1k vigi rolls

since thats the one i was lowest on of this last cycle

[misty gorge]

Holy moly

How did you grind for it

Did you just do streaks

I wanna grind for it but idk how to go about it

[nova grove]

auto

im literally just auto farming

no streak

hence no higher rarity and not very many deluxes

but im still playing catchup so getting ample cs2 and vigi rolls is Very necessary for me lmao

[misty gorge]

Ahh so you just did one individual stage and auto farmed?

[nova grove]

yep

registeel, 1/5 exr arc steven + 3/5 exr ssa cynthia who is 99% there for team staring contest so i can run lithe on steven

if you have 3/5 arc steven you can run status immunity from grid, unflappable from ls and then solo

but yeah its just max speed auto, have phone set next to me while i work, when i hit the rewards screen i can reset and start it again

[karmic willow]

Had to like

First iron head flinch cleansed with max move

Second one was sync

Both on bar 3

You can tell how much this game does NOT want me to win

[misty gorge]

Ohh I see, I’ll do that then since I don’t really care about the deluxe cookies (currently) and just wanted more crunchy cookies

[nova grove]

which auto you run depends on your roster but

if you can send a pic of the tracker i can help you comp one!

[worthy horizon]

if you're not concerned with deluxes then doing 1 is ideal ye

[nova grove]

like yeah 3* deluxes would be nice but

1* and 2* help for rolling things like pinpoint entry and other things

so i dont mind getting those instead

[worthy horizon]

2* for all the entry skills, 1* for mind games 2 and other stat boosting/lowering skills

bar stoic

[nova grove]

ye, more expensive than the 1* and 2* cs2-color cookie but

[misty gorge]

Would steel team work? Anni 24 Lillie, SS Lear and Arc Steven?

[nova grove]

fast track my beloved lmao

[nova grove]

probably, but remember that auto is stupid

like, arc steven + ssa cyn has no def drops after steven's -6 to each from bmove

[worthy horizon]

should be more than enough, try it on azelf

[nova grove]

but if i ran someone else who could drop defenses, the ai would refuse to sync with steven

so since i dont have lear i cant guarantee how the auto would play the team to know if it runs into a fatal flaw, but it seems fine

[worthy horizon]

ss lear might not contribute much, just need steven to tank and lillie to deal piercing blows dmg

[nova grove]

yeah, steven/lillie for duo might be better

fewer variables

[misty gorge]

Alright and then after I beat Azelf I just reset

[nova grove]

yep, reset and rerun azelf

repeat ad infinitum

oh and make sure your phone's sleep/screen lock timer is longer than however long your auto takes

[tender horizon]

Oh wow

[dark bolt]

Is this a good team?

[tender horizon]

Yes sure

It works

[shy sinew]

if you don't care about overkilling then it'll kill for sure

[dark bolt]

Is there a better team?

[shy sinew]

for context I overkilled with ss morty and 1/5 variety lucas

[dark bolt]

Should I switch Leon to a debuffer or is my team fine

[shy sinew]

Leon is your reliable status mon, if anything ss red is the flex slot

but also, how deep are you looking to go?

[dark bolt]

Are you saying Leon > Red

I thought Red was a higher tier

[shy sinew]

this is why I ask how deep you're looking to go. If you're only looking to do 10 clears it doesn't matter, much beyond that and you want to stretch as much as you're willing to in order to avoid redundancy

[worthy horizon]

kinda spread misinfo last time i mention dana/strike scyther

rewatching the clip i made pre-gauntlet it’s not required to clear bar 1 before azelf's second sync but you need to sync with dana a second time for synchro healing

[dark bolt]

It’s my first time doing it so I want to get all the first time rewards for now

[worthy horizon]

buf that's bc my scyther is just able to survive, lotta gear defense

[shy sinew]

based on who you're showing in that screenshot I believe your account to be in a good enough state where it doesn't matter too much what you do, 10 clears is achievable

[worthy horizon]

but in the run i just did i was able to clear bar 1 before azelf second sync anyway without even using second seun

[shy sinew]

all you need is 3 teams for each arena + a fourth for one of the three, with no sync pairs shared between them. Check the pins for general teambuilding practices, make sure you have enough antigimmick for all of your teams

[astral marten]

Honestly I would switch either Leon or Red for a pair that can easily paralyze. Cobalion recovers from burn very quickly, and one of them might be better used for a second Cobalion team.

[worthy horizon]

anyway the best way to know something's a good team is to just run it and see what happens

right that

[shy sinew]

with morty brute forcing bar 3 should be doable, though if red isn't exr that would make things a bit more complicated

[worthy horizon]

you'll have a much easier time vs coba if you can add para, he gets immune to burn if you aren't able to skip half bars

[astral marten]

Doable, but not very fun or practical

[shy sinew]

yeah I'd definitely still split up burners, there are enough free paralyzers or heck even poisoners where swapping a gauge-light one of those in should be okay

[dark bolt]

Does typing matter for the gauntlet?

[shy sinew]

not as much as gimmick countering

[dark bolt]

What gimmick should be used against Coballion?

[worthy horizon]

inflict status

paralysis is the one he's most weak to

[dark bolt]

All I see is too lower defense or Sp Def

So should I swap Leon with Chase?

[worthy horizon]

once you can take care of the gimmick typing helps but not much until then

[shy sinew]

trope has a very nice message explaining teambuilding for each of the legendary arenas in the pins of this thread, please do give it a read especially for those arenas you are less familiar with

[dark bolt]

Until it has a status effect typing won’t matter much

[wicked tusk]

hmm, not sure what duo to try next

[dawn plume]

lmao i just had a run where i used ryukis shell trap and then cobalion missed metal claw and both stone edges and the target on ryuki ran out

where is that luck on any other clear

[wicked tusk]

it can run out..?

[dawn plume]

it lasts for 3 moves

[wicked tusk]

oh right ofc

[dark bolt]

I think this might actually be a good team

[wicked tusk]

overkill for sure

unless you're just going for 11 runs

[dark bolt]

Chase boosts Red and paralyzed Coballion

[dark bolt]

Is it good for 11 runs?

[wicked tusk]

yes

for higher amounts no

[dark bolt]

That’s fine for now

[shy sinew]

chase almost seems too good, even for 10 clears I think I'd want him carrying a different team ngl

[wicked tusk]

yes, Chase has the ability to clear all LAs solo

though not at 1/5

[dark bolt]

Also is it like the battle villa where you lose damage overtime and doesn’t refill your moves

[shy sinew]

chase + defensive support + special damage dealer seems like a better 1/5 chase team

[wicked tusk]

for 11 runs, you can od whatever you want honestly

[feral plank]

Well not bird ( It doesnt count)

[shy sinew]

once you do a clear with a pair, you cannot reuse that pair again

[wicked tusk]

what bird

[feral plank]

Moltres

[shy sinew]

this also applies if you die and quit, rather than battle again

[wicked tusk]

pretty sure there is a chase moltres solo run

[shy sinew]

not yet

[wicked tusk]

i will be the first to do it

🫡

[shy sinew]

he gets flinch so it's theoretically possible, but exceedingly unlikely because where damage

[wicked tusk]

5/5 EX with grid ez

[feral plank]

When you get 45 WTZ dng reduction sure

45%

[wicked tusk]

im suprised nobody has completed that run yet

[nova grove]

sunny sure hit says hello

no evasion can help you now

[shy sinew]

not if the fire chicken never moves

[wicked tusk]

true,,

someone with Chase do the run rn

[worthy horizon]

lol

[wicked tusk]

someone give me a random unit to use

[karmic willow]

Rider

Kiiiickkkk

Max guard the eggmon and it's over

Kills steel in 3 kicks

[wicked tusk]

THEY FINALLY ADDED A CURRENT LG SECTION

THIS IS SO USEFUL THANK YOU WHOEVER DID THIS !!

[inner turret]

[tender horizon]

U are welcome

[inner turret]

you are not whoever

[tender horizon]

[tight rivet]

can 1/5 iono do shit this gauntlet

[shy sinew]

spotted near me on lb, I think they got this registeel clear)

[inner turret]

what hurts the most is the sst red at the end

[shy sinew]

I felt visible pain when I saw it's 5/5

[inner turret]

how can someone mess up that badly

[tight rivet]

what was even the point of like half of these teams

[shy sinew]

the first team on its own is probably fine

it's not quite "dark vs latios" bad at least

[inner turret]

they thought they could clear with the 1st, but failed
they failed to finish with the 2nd
and the 3rd
and the 4th
the 5th is just rage quite

[shy sinew]

their overall ratio is 30:210 and I can tell exactly where they gave up

[inner turret]

lemme check people near me

[shy sinew]

they spend 27 sync pairs on clear 27 registeel and then 42 on clear 28 cobalion

[tight rivet]

is this overkill

[tight rivet]

WHYYYYY

[shy sinew]

then they go back to clear 29 a standard trio

[tight rivet]

HOWW

[inner turret]

some people are just this bad at the game

[shy sinew]

not only that, but azelf clear 29 is viola lodge dawn lodge blue, no EX

[tight rivet]

💀

[inner turret]

that's overkill, but not that overkill

at least compared to whatever the fuck their other clears are lol

[tight rivet]

idk how to use 1/5 iono tbh

cobalion seems like the obvious answer cuz she has semi reliable para

but like its not that consistent

[dawn plume]

shes actually kinda bad on coba

[inner turret]

ouuuh someone near me has a 24:153 ratio

not bad

[dawn plume]

i tried

[tight rivet]

oh

[dawn plume]

has to get hit 3 times for her para

[tight rivet]

yeah thats the problem

and coba hits hard

[dawn plume]

so then by the time you use it coba is 1 away from sync

and it cures itself

i used her on registeel

[tight rivet]

dc2 or just brute force

[shy sinew]

this is a good account, just I feel some pain seeing this right next to someone else who is at 30:32 (I’m at 30:40, so it’s not me)

[inner turret]

Nice clears bro

[dawn plume]

i gave her stoic

[tight rivet]

oh that makes sense

[dawn plume]

and teamed her w summer n but any gauge heavy special dps works

[tight rivet]

who did you pair her with

[tight rivet]

oh

hm

i guess ny wallace would be fine right

[true tartan]

forgot to mention some little changes I made in the other document

[dawn plume]

i guess but hes ontype on coba so idk

[worthy horizon]

alright this isn't the worst thing

[dawn plume]

FINALLY got this but i had to EX ryuki and roll mind games on fearow so idk if it was even worth

[tight rivet]

looks awful

[inner turret]

what the fuck is that

[dawn plume]

ryuki?

[inner turret]

that clear

that looks so bad

[shy sinew]

top 5 clears I will never be doing!

[dawn plume]

it kinda sucked yeah

overheat kept missing

[tight rivet]

does fearow even disable Healthy advantage

[dawn plume]

shell trap one shots bars 2 and 3 but surviving til then is rough

ryuki does

he has burn on grid

[tight rivet]

oh

grid

mine is 1/5 so

[true tartan]

decided to make some little changes in the Lucky Skill column, highlighting in a magenta background the runs that use a Deluxe exlcusive lucky skills... the pre-existing orange BG is meant to show custom lucky skills... Another note is that underlined lucky skills mean "obtainable from 2* cookies or lower" and underlined + italic means "obtainable only from 1*" cookies

[dawn plume]

i only recently got ryuki 3/5

[true tartan]

so it can help a bit to know which cookies to use if anything (Mind Games 2 and Witty Hit 2 are exlcusive to 1*)

[dawn plume]

while getting shafted by arc cynthia

[tight rivet]

oh i see the burn tile now

[inner turret]

yeah i also had the idea of adding smth for clears that hard require the personnal lucky skill

since they're event limited

[tight rivet]

oh bt leon can solo coba at 1/5 right

[true tartan]

the custom ones were always highlighted in my doc haha

[sturdy steeple]

i basically say that for all runs that do use it in the tips

[true tartan]

nope

[inner turret]

maybe just a new icon

unless it'd make it too busy

[sturdy steeple]

putting it in tips is enough

[inner turret]

🥠 is literally perfect

[true tartan]

I'll eventually see if I add ratings for some runs or if I get help enough with it in the future

[sturdy steeple]

🧐

[tight rivet]

why 2/5

does he just lack the dps to before he dies

i know 2/5 has burn synergy tiles

[true tartan]

hmmm, 2/5 grants him MAX Regen and MAX Guard

apart from TM MPR which helps on maxing his stats

[dark bolt]

I beat Coballion so what’s next

[true tartan]

so, more survivability

[tight rivet]

i see

thought it was dps stuff but yeah he does need the sustain

[dark bolt]

I thought it would be one of those never ending battles until you quit or lose

[tight rivet]

you pick another boss

also does 1/5 alt selene and iono work

[shy sinew]

on cobalion?

[wicked tusk]

Who's a good duo partner for 1/5 NC Bianca Vs azelf

Nothing too overkill

[shy sinew]

probably the worst flincher eggmon you think you can get away with

[inner turret]

solo

[shy sinew]

she can solo if you have her exr but a couple flinches should reduce the number of moves you need to dodge

[karmic willow]

Are you good at the game?

Realistically speaking

2/5 allows her to tank azelf considerably better so i would suggest that

[inner turret]

they literally said 1/5

[karmic willow]

I know

I am suggesting them to candy cuz

1/5 is kinda cooked

You need all the help you can get

[wicked tusk]

Don't have the skill gear and DC2 for a solo

[karmic willow]

Iono half comes online at 2/5 for a LOT of things

[inner turret]

don't recommend to candy just for one (1) lg clear

[karmic willow]

It's iono so

Not that bad

[wicked tusk]

It's useful for more than one lg

[tight rivet]

i mean i have 3

i could just toss her one

[shy sinew]

is there a really bad crit buffing eggmon or sync pair I could slap with lana on azelf? looking for worse than support primeape

[karmic willow]

Then one should more than suffice

[tight rivet]

but i wanna try it first

[karmic willow]

Duo with any sp.atk user

[inner turret]

they all are good

[karmic willow]

1/5 you don't get anything and you die. The end

Sad but true

Maybe a gauge bot for trio

[river cliff]

You could toss in valerie

[karmic willow]

I mean literally anything sp.atk works

[tight rivet]

that just feels like fear mongering 💀

[river cliff]

Brendan + Leafeon on Azelf might be one of the worst clears I've ever attempted

[karmic willow]

WHAT?

[river cliff]

Got it to 1% once and then died, haven't gotten back there yet

[karmic willow]

bro did you actually went for the flinch? Like 20% flinch?

Shiiiii

Mad respect

[river cliff]

You only need a few

I saw it on the leaderboard lol

[karmic willow]

I coped out and did

Uhhhh

Leafeon and Victor

[river cliff]

I just literally don't have a better place for Leafeon

[karmic willow]

Let's just say, overwhelm 9 is funny

[river cliff]

No victor for me

Well, base victor

[shy sinew]

should I go worse than support golduck?

[worthy horizon]

if you're not hard committed to duos you can always fit eggmons in some trios

[river cliff]

Support golduck is good for ss misty

[tight rivet]

ok wait so like

what is the metric of being good

if its being able to insta queue then uh

no

not at all

[shy sinew]

I've got her slotted with v mallow on cobalion already, the thought is farming sync buffs bar 1 there I suppose but I can look for worse

[dark bolt]

What’s a good team for Azelf

[shy sinew]

again, don't look just at typing. How are your sync pairs with both physical and special attacks?

Azelf will have an 80% damage reduction to physical moves for the first half of each bar, and an 80% damage reduction to special moves for the second half

[worthy horizon]

lusamine deals mixed bug damage so you could just add a second support to help keep her alive

problem being she's super frail and idk how well you can do that with a low roster

skyla would be the easiest call for her potions

[river cliff]

Golduck, charizard, lapras, and raichu are all interchangeable options, golduck just has the perk of providing misty a nice theme skill bonus

Gengar to an extent as well but it has dual utility for cobalion

[shy sinew]

yeah I saw that same theme skill bonus on lana, but trying raichu now

now if only I could get enough crit leech lifes in bar 1 to stay alive, that would be awesome

[rocky oasis]

wow gladion Bmove just massacred azelf

the only thing he needs is a little help keeping him alive

used a clef

might hav been a waste

idc

im tired

[tender horizon]

They were drunk i guess

Or they kept clicking optimise

Altho i dont think optimise would prioritize stuff like aura sphere

[tender horizon]

Its day 3

[shy sinew]

day 3 means we're already 20% done though

because thanks dena

[rocky oasis]

I havent slept in 48 hours

Had to catch a ride to NJ at 6AM

spent a few hours walking around a beach collecting samples

Gonna pass out

bye

[heavy sinew]

bye

Sleep well

[dawn plume]

ss gladion + egg sylveon good azelf duo

p easy

[river cliff]

I really need to dump some extra energy on clair at some point, even +4 speed was barely enough

[dawn plume]

gladion survives bar 1 at like 15% then 2 shots bar 2 and 1 shots bar 3

[river cliff]

Lotsa flinches at least

[dawn plume]

thats v rachel?

[worthy horizon]

there we go, not too terrible

stoic 2 and modded grid

didn't let myself be outdone by past self

[river cliff]

Yup, 1/5

[worthy horizon]

quite time consuming but much more doable than morty azelf

[river cliff]

Yeah your experience with that talked me out of trying it real fast lol

[dawn plume]

hmm

i will consider that

[river cliff]

Rachel needed stoic

[wicked tusk]

I'm so close to saying fuck it and doing this run

[golden robin]

Im at 15 wins on LG
if I reset now, I know I wont get the rewards from 1-10 victory rewards
but what about 11-15 victories? will I get them again or I'll have to beat them and only start getting rewards again after reaching 16th onwards?

Im wondering cuz I feel like I did some bad team choices

[river cliff]

You get more rewards when you extend your streak

Only the random cookie drops for everything up to then

[lost juniper]

You can go way cheaper than Cobalion with NC Bianca

Like even an eggmon meatshield is enough

[wicked tusk]

Too late

Doing a 100 LG duos only run, no eggmons

[dark bolt]

Do I need to pick an attacker that’s good at physical attacks and special attacks

[shy sinew]

The simplest approach to azelf is to either pick one that has mixed attacks, or two distinct attackers which will individually focus on a different half of the bar and a shared support between them

this of course assumes you won't skip the physical half of the bar with something like a sync move from 51% to progress to the next phase

[tiny hedge]

One thing I've been doing to get easy wins for Azelf is get a special attacker, and sleep stall, then Sync the first bar to bypass the gimmick. That way, you can just steamroll the next two bars much faster due to the massive attack drop azelf gets on bar 2.

[upper vigil]

how can someone use 141 pairs on a 25 streak?

[shy sinew]

they press quit after fainting in battle, rather than battle again

then do so repeatedly

[upper vigil]

wait so it saves the progress when you do that?

[shy sinew]

yes

the same way the regular legendary arena battles would do so

[tiny hedge]

Do not press quit if you lose

[upper vigil]

Oh ok

[tiny hedge]

Press try again THEN quit

[upper vigil]

Yea I never do that I was just wondering because I thought it restarts the entire thing again when you use a new team

[tiny hedge]

Sadly no. They decided to keep that penalty there when it used to be much worse

Before, you wouldn't even get a try again button, you would automatically kicked out of the battle and lose the units you faught with

You would legit need to force close the game before the game saved your progress

[upper vigil]

Wow

[lost juniper]

There's also a few seconds window between your pokemon getting 0 hp and the fainting animation so if you click quit then it wouldn't save, not that it matters since you can just press try again

[cedar pawn]

I used less units in my Auto Run.

[worthy horizon]

yea whole ton of carelessness and no planning

[bitter gate]

Sounds like me

[worthy horizon]

i'm sure a lot of people would think that but still vastly different magnitudes

about themselves

[sour isle]

can i take a look at your autorun?

the only autorun i've got is Arc Steven 1R

i'

i'm testing NC Hop mmhm

[cedar pawn]

Search me in here. I posted them earlier.
But I'm currently working towards extending my run.

[sour isle]

eh.

cool.

[shy sinew]

last posted for context: #1012311116778586182 message (I was curious if I could scroll and see you, I'm still a bit below your old auto best)

[sour isle]

is it better to just auto 12 teams or auto 1 team over and over ? o.o

[shy sinew]

depends on what you want

for deluxes it’s always the highest streak you can do consistently, but if you want regular cookies just one and done is fine

[sour isle]

arc steven 1R is doing well, but its kinda fast....

err slow.

i upgraded to registeel/nc hop

so now they're clearing registeel every 1minute

nc hop just wastes his tms though lmao.

*auto nchop i mean

[cedar pawn]

12-20 is probably the best range.
You want some 5/5 Deluxe odds for farming.

[sour isle]

oh hrm

i made 12 teams, but only 2 auto teams ;-;

[shy sinew]

yeah 13 I would say is the minimum for an auto farm

why go up to a 15% drop rate for 3* deluxes if you're not going to use it

[sour isle]

what's the base drop rate at 1 vs 12 and above?

[shy sinew]

for 3* deluxes it's 1% at level 1 and 15% at level 5

10% at level 4

[sour isle]

hmm.

[worthy horizon]

1 if you're unconcerned about deluxes, more if you want them

was scrolled up

[upper vigil]

What are fastest auto teams or are they all around the same

for just 1 level

[sour isle]

registeel is kinda easy to bully.

[nova grove]

1 auto is generally faster bc you dont lose the time to switching your team each time, but yeah it means a lower reward tier

so if what you need is the higher rolls, then the timeloss is more worthwhile

[cedar pawn]

Regi if you have NC Hop and Bianca.

[upper vigil]

Have hop but no bianca

[sour isle]

nchop solo?

[nova grove]

also in general many autos will be slow bc the ai is bad; certain units can go faster but ultimately youre at the mercy of the one-move-queued-at-a-time ai

[shy sinew]

nc hop's solo is definitely not autoable

[sour isle]

ah.

[shy sinew]

it would be a duo with the two of them

[sour isle]

so my registeel + nc hop works then.

[cedar pawn]

No the 2 and some cannon fodder.

[nova grove]

the only auto solo ive ever heard is arc steven

[sour isle]

registeel cannonfodder then lel

[river cliff]

Is there a more gauge-friendly flincher than sprigatito?

I'm trying to get 1/5 sc rosa to work but her gauge is hard to manage

[wise raven]

Tech gyarados? Nanu?

[river cliff]

Tech gyarados is slow

[worthy horizon]

probably not any other egg option

[river cliff]

Hm

[worthy horizon]

most gauge friendly would be arc steven nc blue and sst red but you're never using them for that lol

for duos

[upper vigil]

this hurts to look at

[worthy horizon]

lmao

[river cliff]

I actually have no clue how this worked

[dawn plume]

flinch masters ex

who are people putting w lusamine cuz i rather use roxanne on registeel

[river cliff]

Problem is that there aren't many other cheap pairs that can patch up everything lusamine needs

I guess dana?

[dawn plume]

damn already used her w scyther

[chrome halo]

maybe 1/5 Foebe?

[river cliff]

Sawyer?

Falkner could work too

[dawn plume]

sawyer is an idea actually

[worthy horizon]

i feel like splitting up roxanne/lusamine causes more problems than it solves

[dawn plume]

since he has ex now

[worthy horizon]

sawyer has an issue of struggling with gauge if you try to use dark pulse all the time so you'll have to see how that plays out

along with getting only 40% on his flinches

[river cliff]

Lusamine do be fast tho

[worthy horizon]

good stat, but no self speed buff

[river cliff]

Not sure who you'd pair roxanne with on regi in tbe meantime

[dawn plume]

well i gotta beat registeel anyways before trying anything

idr who made nita/alt iris duo on azelf but it was surprisingly easy

[river cliff]

I did

[dawn plume]

nice thx

[river cliff]

Np

[worthy horizon]

it's definitely a struggle to make duos work with roxanne

[dawn plume]

it worked with 3/5 ex iris and 1/5 ex nita