#Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)

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karmic willow
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Already planned so many registeel teams

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I legit don't have enough proper answers to azelf

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Then again

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I still have my sleepers ehe

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This thing is gonna go down

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My gawd

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So many bp clemont teams

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But they are all on coba

dawn plume
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yeah pretty good

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1/5 marnie

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i think unbending or enlightenment might be better on falkner but whatever

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uses this grid for falkner which is super unorthodox but marnie needs the accuracy more than air slash flinches

karmic willow
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this makes me want to do

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Red + Gladion on coba again

river cliff
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Hm I think I may use that instead. Now I just need to find a new partner for lodge silver

karmic willow
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either

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red + gladion

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or

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double commit

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Gladion Falkner

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and let Marnie cope with someone else

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I am seriously thinking taking Variety Rachel out for a spin

dawn plume
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oh no

river cliff
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I'm using her with Clair on cobalion

karmic willow
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hmmm

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that works

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if base rachel is not available

karmic willow
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alsooo

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anyone else with speed + flinch?

dawn plume
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idk i just dread using v rachel

karmic willow
dawn plume
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like team speed or self speed

karmic willow
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team speed

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so far I only remember Hilbert left

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and even the's busy

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idk if i should even do hilbert and grimsley again

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i got ptsd from that clear

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the duo sucks on registeel so

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maybe zelf?

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let grimsley nuke past half bars

graceful folio
karmic willow
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@sturdy steeple what's your plan on ittt

river cliff
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Raikou

sturdy steeple
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plan on what

karmic willow
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the

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hilbert and grimsley duo

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ss grims

sturdy steeple
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oh i forgot about that one

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might do it again idk

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still thinking where to put hilbert

karmic willow
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honestly

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because both azelf and steel are the same

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i suggest steel

nova grove
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finally hatched a shiny tech squirtle which means i finally have a 3-passive tech squirtle

karmic willow
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maybe hilbert bugsy

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lol

nova grove
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i can join the ranks of eggmon-users

karmic willow
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because i am deadass unable to come up with anything of

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use for him

sturdy steeple
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bugsy can be done with tech kanga/farfetchd but its so annoying and i dont wanna do it

karmic willow
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both got

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better partners

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bea for tech kanga and

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farfetch got anni steven

karmic willow
sturdy steeple
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pain

karmic willow
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i want

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mgr2 on nidoqueen ahhhh

river cliff
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Hilbert + Brawly isn't bad

karmic willow
river cliff
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Registeel

karmic willow
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ahh, should have known

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Not as bad as I thought

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Gauge is less, less horrid

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36'ish wincons on azelf

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54 for the other 2

karmic willow
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WHY THE HELL DID I GET PARALYZED

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Stupid ass thunder has a 100% para rate ffs

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But yeah @sturdy steeple this works for your lana

sturdy steeple
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I'm still using her on registeel

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Mine doesn't have impervious

karmic willow
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Ahah

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The eggmon carried to the endddd

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Yeaaaaaahhhhh

karmic willow
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but yeah

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it sucks wihtout impervious

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lana ran ft2

lost juniper
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Might as well use Will since he's bugged

karmic willow
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bugged?

lost juniper
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His tm works like Tate now

karmic willow
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HUH?

lost juniper
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Unless it got patched

lost juniper
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Tate tm

stuck mantle
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Summer tate?

lost juniper
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Solrock

stuck mantle
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A its 2x your sts got it

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Maybe its new beta pasive for will🤣

river cliff
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Lol how did that even happen

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I guess somehow he became the target of his tm? Sure seems like an upgrade to me

dawn plume
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wait huh???

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that’s a pretty critical error how the hell does that even happen

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they won’t fix this for at least 2 months

stuck mantle
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Nobody use him only amaura. So nobody now about it🤣

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If not this post prob never discovered

dawn plume
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this information must be shared

river cliff
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It would have definitely been discovered as soon as someone used him in gauntlet

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I hope they just leave it, it synergizes great with fortuitous

dawn plume
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nah it would make regirock way harder

lost juniper
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Most bosses would be way harder now

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For him cause he sets himself slowly

dawn plume
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i’m trying to wrap my head around how tf this could have happened

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like what line in the game’s code got messed up by this update that changed one pair’s tm into a completely different pair’s

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send inquiries about this lol

river cliff
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The trainer move says it changes his stats to become double the targets raised stats

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He became the target of his trainer move somehow

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So it didn't become Tates tm but functionally it is identical

dawn plume
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lol you would think this would be a bigger issue but no one gaf

karmic willow
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so good news

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i have

dawn plume
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general poma community dont care that a 4 star gen pool from launch got their tm completely bugged

karmic willow
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20 units to spare

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XD

karmic willow
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will is kind of

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NOT someone

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he was for a long time, the goat for f2p

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and well, we in the lg community can certainly raise awareness about it

tender horizon
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Hes one of the least useful units for any player

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Imagine having to invest sync grids into him for him to be usable

river cliff
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That's every old general pool pair

nova grove
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wait whats the will bug?

river cliff
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He's the target of his own trainer move so it doubles his stats

karmic willow
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@worthy horizon i don't think i am insane enough to do your clear

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Lance is so weak lul

pearl beacon
karmic willow
pearl beacon
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So he's not copying stats anymore
Which may be good for us

karmic willow
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Eusine and eggmon

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Speedrunning lul

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I got a few freeze haxes at the end

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So it's quite hard

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First half bar is

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Probably the most dangerous

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Cross that and it's easy af

pearl beacon
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Survive bar1, Azelf in a nutshell

karmic willow
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Yup

pearl beacon
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Need more cookies slots for unbending/stalwart LarryDead
Damn dena

karmic willow
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I rate azelf higher than

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Uhhh

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Registeel

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This game needs more defensive oriented pairs

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Like the amount of defensive passives we have are severely lacking

pearl beacon
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Same, he's a menace
Attack spam, damage gimmick, debuffs and stupid strong bar1 sync

karmic willow
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Forget haymaker

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Give Steven friggin tough skin for once

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A true defensive oriented pair

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Would be smth like Alt Elio

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Now THAT is a tanky boy

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Should I even

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Dream of SS Morty

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Carrying an Eggmon?

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Like fire strike eggmon

dawn plume
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i had him carry lodge calem last cobalion rotation

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lodge calem is horrible and needs the hard carry

rocky oasis
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i used dana / lodge calem

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1/5 dana ofc

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3/5 is a pipe dream

karmic willow
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Yoooo

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This is huge

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Yes I won bar 3

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But like

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It can skip half bar 1

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Which is insane

pearl beacon
karmic willow
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Ww3 is optimal but cs2 can make do with this

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Rachel can be done at 1/5

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If you can get lucky with flinches

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But yeah it kills fast enough

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And thus

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The search for Clair's partner continues

river cliff
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The amount of pairs that self buff +4 sp atk/atk and +2 crit at base is crazy

karmic willow
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Yeah

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Her on cobalion tho

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2 tm and maxed out

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Oh right nvm

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Dauntless basr

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This and solar flare

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Enables the nuke

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@sturdy steeple any plans on morgan yet?

sturdy steeple
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She's going with my Blaine, but she's 1/5

karmic willow
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Blaine ..

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Man

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I am probably gonna bust out the old

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Blaine and ss dawn

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Or smth

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Oh glaciaaaa

sturdy steeple
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He can work with like mfing marlon

worthy horizon
dawn plume
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i was gonna do blaine and hop i need a place for morgan too tho

river cliff
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Is the ss diantha solo on azelf still bad with the exr?

sturdy steeple
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Hop can easily duo with any egg paralyzer

sturdy steeple
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Higher investment usually makes any solo easier

river cliff
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Hm I may throw her there then

tender horizon
tender horizon
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Its possible but not feasible

river cliff
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Idk what else to do with Rosa

tender horizon
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Rosa can probably do azelf better

river cliff
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It might be better to take advantage of her personal ls and stalwart on one of the other stages though, but the physical moves are rough

tender horizon
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Maybe Azelf with a flincher

river cliff
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She might be able to get away with stoic on registeel

tender horizon
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Still a waste of her lucky skill

river cliff
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Bar 2 tho

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O wait can't do stoic and her personal ls lol

tender horizon
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I wonder

river cliff
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I don't think she can heal enough lol

tender horizon
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Stall damage and apply poison after half bars

heavy sinew
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What's her personal ls again

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Crit?

river cliff
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+1 team sp def after every action

heavy sinew
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Wait that's goated

river cliff
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Yeah she won the ls lottery

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I think stoic is the play for all 3 arenas tho

heavy sinew
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Weak to flying I think that's the play

tender horizon
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Azelf doesnt crit except the swifts and bar 3 cheese

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So shes still seems best on Azelf

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Maybe with an Attack debuffer even

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Pryce and Rosa duo Azelf? SophoKEK

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But Pryce dies

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Ugh

river cliff
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I'm not confident that she can outpace the defense drops

lost juniper
river cliff
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The power flux gaming is real

dawn plume
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ready for elek to drop lodge lear solos next reset

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lodge genius

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charisma 100

worthy horizon
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the amount of resets needed for that seem so miserable

river cliff
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Seems good enough

lost juniper
river cliff
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1/5

lost juniper
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I see. Mine is 3/5 so it should be even easier

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I like the use of Hapu too

river cliff
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Yeah with the extra flinch and para chance it should be pretty free

rocky oasis
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hapu is off meat shield duty?

olive swift
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Omg how

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Hapu HAS a place now?!

river cliff
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Maybe, the meat shield route may still be better

pearl beacon
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She's quite good tanking in coba
For once there's no energy ball HapuStare

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Bruh I'm getting literal trash from eggLarryDead like all 1 passives
~~ also, Dena where's cloyster huh? ~~

river cliff
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I still haven't gotten a single 3 passive psyduck

chrome halo
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does Hypno need 3 passives

worthy horizon
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third passive is troublemaker which you can cover with a lucky skill

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not sure how much value you can get out of other lucky skills

chrome halo
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lemme see if it has good gauge management

worthy horizon
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also second is aggrav which is even less necessary

pearl beacon
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2 bar move

chrome halo
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oops

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so 3 passives are necessary i fear

pearl beacon
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I'm actually keeping a 1 passive
I fear aggravation/confusion can be on the way, but need to test

worthy horizon
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yea even without going into mgr you could still use ft1 to top off speed which i did a couple gauntlets ago

chrome halo
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nvm just checked, tech Hypno has X Speed

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so the gauge issue is not a concern

median swan
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who's his partner here

pearl beacon
karmic willow
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It was a tough clear even til the end

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I did it as a proof of concept but

One stone edge para / dodge required

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You die at sacred sword anyways

karmic willow
karmic willow
sturdy steeple
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im doing wigglytuff with sserena

karmic willow
median swan
karmic willow
karmic willow
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Someone might do body slam and ss gladion XD

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Not me though

sturdy steeple
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i have too many other units

karmic willow
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But

Nice

sturdy steeple
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that counter coba

karmic willow
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Wish I can also say that

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At this rate i think i am overthinking coba lol

median swan
karmic willow
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Saw the solo, think the extra damage is not that hard to get

sturdy steeple
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finally updated the solo doc im sorry it took all day

karmic willow
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Or crazy

karmic willow
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Like

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Sync twice on marlon before blaine?

sturdy steeple
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I'm not doing it so

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You're gonna have to figure that out

karmic willow
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Oh so

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It's more like a concept then

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Hmmmm

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Alright i'll give it a shot

sturdy steeple
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No it's a confirmed run

river cliff
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It's in the repository

sturdy steeple
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Just I ain't doing it

heavy sinew
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21 today 🥳

river cliff
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Hm I like this a lot better

worthy horizon
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yeah koga rosa is nice

river cliff
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First time I've appreciated the double x sp atk all mpr on the grid, makes it much less reset heavy

bitter gate
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i'm trying base Lance + egg wigglytuff vs Azelf

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It's doable but for the love of god Lance sucks at critting syncs and resetting pots lol

karmic willow
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Best I could do

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Will forever be a pipe dream ig

bright brook
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It has been so long since we could get a good solo unit from lodge, and Lear came in with 6 right in his debut!
This is yet another evasion solo video but uh, Lear is so much more than that! He is self sufficient, he nukes hard, his dps is really good with Power Trip, he debuffs defense and more importantly, he fully buffs all of his stats via U...

▶ Play video
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dude got 6

bitter gate
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what the heck

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6 out of nowhere, rofl

rocky oasis
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he looks really good

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wouldnt be suprised if he can brute force uxie

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w/ evasion and regen

stuck mantle
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Lear lodge look nice i 8/9 days he come so can try him in lg

rocky oasis
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im at like 47/100

rocky oasis
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so another 4-5 days

stuck mantle
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Im not use presents or reset so 32 only

tender horizon
tender horizon
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I think if Hapu can duo with Raikou, then Petey can too

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Hmm

karmic willow
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Cobalion

worthy horizon
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yea even at 1/5 i feel like raikou has plenty of options

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just para and attack lowering do so much

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but you'll have to actually see bc i haven't tested anything there yet

chrome halo
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I underestimated it too much AcerolaPensive

gleaming cypress
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how did he reach lodge lear in 3 resets

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that’s an average of 33 levels per day

chrome halo
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2 devices reset trick, clearly

gleaming cypress
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what’s that

stuck mantle
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Hot topics reset get the best presents 2 device

pearl beacon
# gleaming cypress what’s that

It needs 2 phones
Start the convo normally then put your phone offline
Interact until the convo drops (it will give you an error message)
If you're happy with the result, simply reconnect
If not, close the app and launch poma in the other phone and do that again.
You can jump between phones that way

brisk sapphire
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Does it absolutely require two phones

worthy horizon
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the other option is uninstalling and reinstalling the game

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every time

brisk sapphire
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Kind of a hassle, but good to know even lodge has a tech

dawn plume
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it is def a hassle but i respect the grind

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and yeah i had a feeling lodge lear would do good

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best lodge tech since serena i wanna say

river cliff
karmic willow
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Oh boy

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Candice

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Candice and Glacia

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Now that's a good Azelf Duo

tender horizon
tender horizon
karmic willow
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That duo can't afford to drop stats unless l.s and heavy reset

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So

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Azelf

tender horizon
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Glacia is weak to steel but she doesnt defend herself well against azelf

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So its kind of bs

tender horizon
karmic willow
karmic willow
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I did Azelf with Summer Steven and Lorelei (base) before

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I can do this too

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Bp candice though, now that is a tough nut to crack

Idk she might be benched fr

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New poll time guys

karmic willow
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Ahhh dangit

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Ran ft2

dawn plume
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needs mad strength for funny kaboom

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trust

karmic willow
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Imagine

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Stone edge still hits and crits

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At this right i might just

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Throw in the sobble eggmon

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@worthy horizon you know what imma do lodge lance and M A Y

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Make use of the rain passives

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@sturdy steeple sounds good yeah?

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Also fix the accuracy issues

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Lol

sturdy steeple
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Sure

karmic willow
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tbf idk

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where to put May in

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she's odd this time

karmic willow
karmic willow
tender horizon
karmic willow
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oh

tender horizon
karmic willow
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not

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unexpected

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though brycen is on cleansing duty for Irida

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brycen irida was something i cooked back in lg14 lol

tender horizon
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You doing a Naomi this lg?

karmic willow
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that MG9 is no joke

karmic willow
tender horizon
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Maybe u can do bp candice and grusha vs Azelf if u want

karmic willow
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nah

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that stuff has 0 speed i fear

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even IF i do grusha it'd probably be someone utterly helpless like

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idk, old man pryce

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then again

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i DID do Pryce + Glaceon + something

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it was

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Pryce Glaceon and Alcreme

stuck mantle
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Grusha solo azelf

sturdy steeple
stuck mantle
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Why you need duo rosa stan

karmic willow
sturdy steeple
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azelfington

karmic willow
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then lodge elesa is for...

sturdy steeple
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still unplanned

karmic willow
stuck mantle
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I already did his solo

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Long time ago

karmic willow
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of course you did

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you and your bazillion max invested pairs

stuck mantle
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And say who have more then me 5/5🤣

karmic willow
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why do i even bother talking to you anyways LarryDead

stuck mantle
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Most your is maxed so i not now grusha was not:)

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Just want give idea its all:) maybe can be lowered? If have good skill gear

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Since back then i use ice gear

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Now skill gears easy get rally helps. So alot new options in game

karmic willow
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grusha duo though

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hmmm

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something with mg2

dawn plume
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tech exr helpful

lost juniper
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Extra stats help her a lot too

dawn plume
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i dont mind tech exr on supports with healing that also buff their own offenses the more i think about it

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like arven and ss acerola

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they sync often on solos so its actually quite helpful

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elaine the biggest example lol normal sync with the higher bp

brisk sapphire
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More people liking Techrola 🙏

inner turret
heavy sinew
stuck mantle
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Sad after his lg she got exr

shy notch
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I hate the super spotlight Tapu banner. I’ll never understand why the triple banners can have 4.5% combined featured rate and then it goes back to 2% combined for the super spotlights

chrome halo
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They thought splitting 2% rate to 0.5% was a great idea

shy notch
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Literally worse than a regular pokefair which at least has presents

tender horizon
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Yep

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Trap banners

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The Dahlia Iono one seems good value and im tempted but i shall resist and save

river cliff
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Imagine how much money they'd make if it were 1.5% per pair

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People would go crazy for a 6% banner

tender horizon
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Not everyone so rational

river cliff
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If people don't pull people won't spend

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People would be more enticed to spend if the value was higher

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That's why select scouts are so good

stuck mantle
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No need exr or weise entry just def crush 1😂

karmic willow
river cliff
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Just don't get debuffed

blissful rose
inner turret
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I think the LG banner has more value because the pairs are better at 1/5

errant plume
# tender horizon You doing a Naomi this lg?

Funny how you called doing only 1v1/2v1 a Naomi even tho it's literally the optimal way to play Gauntlet if you want to reach a high rank, and basically what you need to do to even be top 1 DawnNom

tender horizon
river cliff
tender horizon
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Im not convinced that the former is better

errant plume
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Depends on how you manage your units, I know the 296 winstreak only had 1/2 3v1 for example and that's because he lacked dupes DawnNom

errant plume
river cliff
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Especially since a lot of people look there for stealing teams

errant plume
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When you watch top 5 teams, there aren't a lot of 2v1 done here
I mean they're the obvious ones like here, we'll see a lot of SS Red/Electabuzz or Dawn/Electrode but the Ryuki one where he explodes Cobalion were not here in the first place

sturdy steeple
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naocry my friend elek doesnt wanna give me any credit

errant plume
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This is not what I am saying HildaCry

stuck mantle
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First you need luck its mean alot top jp need not play then have chance for top1. Since they always do some crazy teams. Its hard win vs them. And need like soligas have all units in game realy invested too max

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Then have chance

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Even he lost last time have more units . Wat show how hard its get top spot luri try many times and never did and she is soo good

sturdy steeple
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because skill, knowledge, and dedication is a big factor too

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thats how a lot of us reach top without even being close to having maxed 5/5 ex r +10e on all units

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we dont have accounts like yours or soligas

karmic willow
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about getting debuff

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it's the fact that you don't deal damage fast enough to push through bar 1

karmic willow
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to cook stuff like that

errant plume
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let me cook then

karmic willow
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not THAT bad

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in theory of course

karmic willow
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having the units is ONE thing

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but yeah, not a lot of people would have time to waste for resets and so on

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hell, i might ditch the whole top 20 thing after this one because of work and maybe scrape for just 100 next time

tender horizon
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Free time is the biggest factor

karmic willow
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yeah

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with the reduced time

river cliff
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Good teams can mitigate that a bit

karmic willow
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i am seriously going for teams that are assured even if it's 2v1

sturdy steeple
karmic willow
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like i am sick of getting crit by stone edge at -6 accuracy

tender horizon
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Theres only 500 hours in 3 weeks

karmic willow
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no thanks

olive swift
river cliff
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Couldn't be me

olive swift
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TREMENDOUSLY

tender horizon
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And youre telling me some JP players dont plan before

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How many hours do they take from the 500 to plan

karmic willow
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You EARNED it

river cliff
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And it's a big power play

karmic willow
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sure i might disagree with some stuff you do now and then but

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hell, i still ask for inspirations even til... a few minutes ago XD

sturdy steeple
karmic willow
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yeah

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still

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if Japanese peeps don't plan

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then they are good at borrowing teams

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or just, really, really try

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like i remember seeing Time just

sturdy steeple
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a lot of the JP players i follow on twitter also follow absol sooooo

karmic willow
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spending a whole evening doing proton solo vs something

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terrakion it was

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just flinch and pray all night

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the tenacity on that guy

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seesh

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though, he's been out of the top 20 for some time because the irony in his name

lost juniper
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I hope the Azelf solo is not terrible

karmic willow
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they are quite the definition of

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"if it bleeds, we can kill it"

lost juniper
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VSawyer:

karmic willow
sturdy steeple
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its not tea, its just, dont make assumptions about an entire group of people

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different people are different, as individuals are

karmic willow
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imagine if one day

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the game announces eos

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Naomi for the first time will do trios as a sendoff or somehow just used every pair

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dang that'd be a whole character arc

true tartan
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eos, please...

sturdy steeple
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more like me finally not being stubborn and sticking to my not-special gimmick anymore lol

karmic willow
tender horizon
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I like how im the only person i know whos doing LG in sequence of regions

karmic willow
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like

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use all pairs from one region?

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for me though it's probably

Every single unit used, overkill near the end

and starts and ends with Rosa. Most likely NC

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now the question is

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what DO i want to start with this time

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SC Rosa solo on Steel is... sometimes a bit unberable

lost juniper
tender horizon
# karmic willow wdym

My teams are like Kanto MCs > Kanto Gym Leaders > E4 > I try to use up my kanto units

karmic willow
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Steel is probably the best

stuck mantle
karmic willow
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luck is also

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a big factor in runs

sturdy steeple
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if you dont record a video, you have a lot more time for it <3

karmic willow
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missed syncs, no flinch chain, etc....

quaint tartan
karmic willow
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i barely record XD

lost juniper
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Kinda also need to know what's worth going for

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Some solos are hell but a duo is simple

karmic willow
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literally

quaint tartan
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And this is the right time to thank you again for carrying me in last LGs 🙇‍♂️

lost juniper
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NC Cheren on Latias took me more than a day, then I added Beedrill

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And cleared first try

sturdy steeple
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glad we can help

quaint tartan
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Im not able to manage the timing/amount of units/dedication anymore so I just grab teams here and there and slap a third unit to make it easier

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And with here and there it’s your doc mainly plus early streakers

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Rn it’s just a matter of farming cookies to get super powered 3 for ranked DC, those extra tickets are juicy

karmic willow
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also cloyster

inner turret
karmic willow
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but yeah no flinch that's crazy

sturdy steeple
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elek does super hard clears all the time ya dont wanna challenge him

karmic willow
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maybe

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i know he'll probably get it done and figure it out in a day max

lost juniper
karmic willow
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so true

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still

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the biggest cook i did this time is probably

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the ryuki clear

errant plume
dawn plume
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oh no

karmic willow
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i know i can't beat you with that kind of planning lmfao

lost juniper
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I don't have time to plan this many solos LarryDead

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I'll probably copy

errant plume
karmic willow
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it's still cloyster

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1 para proc used

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N has unbending so no need for stoic

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the absolute limits i know WEEZing

errant plume
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If you don't use a Defense buffer, you kinda want Stoic ahah

karmic willow
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i still can't believe i made it to the end in testing

karmic willow
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but still

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it's more like a damage race3

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because N is NOT living long enough

errant plume
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That's true

karmic willow
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he kinda needs to kill it before it kills him

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i went cs2

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crazy I know

errant plume
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You only want that tbh, the only crit that Coba does is Swift, otherwise just do damage WEEZing

karmic willow
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literally WEEZing

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but yeah

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i'm still here looking for more

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innovations like the ryuki clear

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ryuki is only REALLY good for like, 2 arenas

dawn plume
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coba does give itself +1 crit on the second half of bar 3 but you want it dead before it reaches that point anyways

karmic willow
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so i'm taking this one with me

karmic willow
dawn plume
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and it used sacred sword which kills u anyways so it doesn’t matter lol

karmic willow
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NOT using the Bolt Strike so that you don't para the Facade

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at half bar 3

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trust me, it was CRAZY

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can't wait for gauntlet to start and record it

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or maybe not because i might be lazy oomf

sturdy steeple
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if youre aiming high, recording will be a big hinderance this gauntlet bigsad

karmic willow
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i'll cherry pick some like maybe Lodge Elesa and Viola

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i kinda regret not popularizing the Mina and BP Surge one

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but hey, i'm pretty sure i popularized Archie + Lodge Adaman on Cobalion

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The thunder para cope

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also kinda sucks to see

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nobody using candice on azelf yet

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and maybe

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summer steven + lorelei

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and raihan + rachel

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@sturdy steeple i gotta ask tho

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sometimes i feel like

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i just stare at my sheet endlessly without coming up with smth

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so how do i just "put smth down"

sturdy steeple
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felt

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just gotta make choices

karmic willow
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sometimes i do feel like

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i regret this or that too much

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like for example

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fearow + ryuki

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thank god I listened to @chrome halo

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and realized that shell trap can allow you to gain a TON of gauge back as you wait for it to land

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so now I got fearow + emmet

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on steel

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and that is, quite fun

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which now opens the gate for SS Gio and Ingo to be a thing on ... something

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god I regret picking SS Gio from the scout banner lmfao

graceful folio
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Will be watching and admiring from now on instead of playing sadly, work and studies do be like that, sadge cuz i would have loved to give it a shot again to LG

karmic willow
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i'm gonna put down my phone at some point too

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i don't make a living out of this game after all

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so

graceful folio
karmic willow
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and i didn't use him at all

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LMFAO

graceful folio
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Man

karmic willow
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should have been Rose for the next one

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and that he counters a LOT of LG

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wtz change for moltres

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and so on

graceful folio
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Makes sense

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Hope the next one is soon tm

karmic willow
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I need 49 teams left for Azelf

33 on Steel

31 on Coba

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so most of my problems are in zelf

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@errant plume are you going for the hardest solo possible on each character?

graceful folio
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When in doubt sing a song to azelf and maybe it will like it and let you win for free CandiceBleh

karmic willow
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like example would be sc selene on coba

errant plume
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Nope because building around Cobalion is not hard, the real difficult are between Azelf/Registeel because there is a lot of overlap

karmic willow
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i remember saying somewhere down along the line that

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"every team you can do for registeel you can do for azelf"

errant plume
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Basically yeah

stuck mantle
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Coba is most easy off them

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Most hard are azelf and reggi

karmic willow
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I remember Akr0 saying "nah they have different win cons" and I do agree to a CERTAIN extent

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but

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In the end

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If you flinch you can do both

graceful folio
karmic willow
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if you sleep you can do both

Steel you can't sleep at bar 3 but you kind of basically win by then through sheer stalling and stats debuffing. Sleep is an auto win in my eye and you can't tell me otherwise

stuck mantle
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Reggi sleep only too bar 3

graceful folio
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Don't mind me, just learning and taking notes

karmic willow
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and just reserve the stats drop for respective ones

Offensive for zelf and defensive for steel

errant plume
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And I do believe that if you can drop Def or SpDef, you should go to Registeel

karmic willow
errant plume
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Ok you resume my point better ahah

karmic willow
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@errant plume olympia on steel or zelf?

errant plume
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For now I set her on Azelf

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I'll see how it goes, but I lack Azelf teams so

karmic willow
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same

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the thing about azelf is that he's just

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REALLY annoying

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his damage can kill a lot of "weak teams"

river cliff
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Azelf would be so much easier if the sync was special

karmic willow
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@errant plume oooh and how about guzma? i don't have v falkner

karmic willow
river cliff
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Three physical arenas kind of blows

errant plume
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Guzma with SC Steven for now

karmic willow
tender horizon
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Wtf am i doing with a 1/5 emma

karmic willow
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that's her best case scenario

tender horizon
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Oh god so bad

karmic willow
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she's not on azelf

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that's for sure

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coba she's useless after one sync

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so it's easily steel, synchro healing, and something

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until bar 3 comes

tender horizon
#

Emma and TL Gladion

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Right

karmic willow
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no

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bar 3 is

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a killer move

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i'd say

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Emma, Lisia and something that can debuff with screech

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lisia is a pretty decent tank when it comes down to it

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she lacks speed so, speed

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she flinches

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i can see @bitter gate going after me for making that team lmfao

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but it is what it is

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@errant plume oh right, how do you plan on using tech parasect?

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and magneton

errant plume
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Jasmine + Parasect on Coba
Bea + Magneton on Regi

karmic willow
#

bea and magneton works? I thought she'd die

tender horizon
tender horizon
tender horizon
karmic willow
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HUH?

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@errant plume okay then what about morgan?

graceful folio
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Gotta appreciate the patience of all the LG knowledgeable people in here, answering to everyone and always staying kind

errant plume
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Didn't plan her yet

karmic willow
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fair, it's hard to slot her

errant plume
# karmic willow bea and magneton works? I thought she'd die

All the infos for my team : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vSuW1GMMBGTGavXeXKz6LtmkoOFX3FrIBaIxwrmhINM/

Starting 2v1 in this video, but with eggmons only !

0:00 - Tornadus 30 : Bea (Palentine 2022) + Lapras Tech
12:43 - Registeel 30 : Olympia
16:30 - Tapu Bulu 31 : Valerie + Scorbunny Tech
22:40 - Tornadus 31 : Falkner (Variety) + Fea...

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karmic willow
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i'm valuing jasmine a bit higher so

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thinking her and something else

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but that's certainly one helluva team

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@errant plume final question before i hit the bed

Base Hop and Tech Kanga

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those 2 are... weird

tender horizon
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I can also just do Emma and SS Diantha fuo

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Potion bot

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Im gonna do Klara Lisia for artistic duo

errant plume
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Hop + any para on Coba
Tech Kang + Fall Iris on Regi

karmic willow
#

yooooo

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that comp is actually insane

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imma steal that

tender horizon
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Bea and magneton wtf

karmic willow
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yeah i saw the vid

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it has just enough speed to kill

karmic willow
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it works

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oar9, def down and she's squishy so, flinch to solve the need to tank

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aka the "Just don't get hit" brand of thinking

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SophoKEK like this one

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nice

graceful folio
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Yo elek, a bit off topic but forgot all these days to congratulate you for your performance on the previous HS event.
Got your vid on my TL and watched it all, fire stuff!

errant plume
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And since those 2 are squishy and don't want any mistake, not flinching Iron Defense Bar 1/2 is not a problem since you debuff both Def

karmic willow
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@errant plume the emmet duo is funny trust

errant plume
graceful folio
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You're welcome bud, admiring your dedication between there and LG

errant plume
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Just love endgame content so I try to do my best on all of them ahah

graceful folio
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Much respect for your knowledge and patience

errant plume
graceful folio
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I'll appear here and there just to check on y'all

errant plume
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That's understandable

graceful folio
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It do be like that, I still very much enjoy interacting with everyone here and I care about many people here so

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All good 😊

karmic willow
errant plume
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You're always welcome here anyway MallowHeart

karmic willow
#

grid kinda builds itself

errant plume
#

I was thinking that ahah

karmic willow
#

hit and heal is kinda redundant

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you don't get hit if you flinch anyways

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not like he can die from one hit

even then, Guard

errant plume
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True

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And Fearow is fast enough to give you gauge anyway

karmic willow
#

right

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now to think

karmic willow
#

@errant plume so many teams i know i can do, just lacking a unit or two so i might wanna ask your advice for filling in the gaps. Hope you can find time to answer them cuz bed for realsies

Like Tech Hitmontop on Steel

Noland with anything BUT Dana

Sup Scyther better or Strike on Zelf? He's good with Dana

Karen. Still Arbok or do we ignore the Dirty Fighting Entirely?

And Clair

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so many of them are just

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"there"

#

be me

place my win conditions

0 idea on what to follow up with XD

errant plume
#

Hilbert + Hitmontop on Regi
Didn't plan Noland yet
I prefer Strike Scyther on Azelf because there are a lot of other eggs that do what Supp Scyther can do, like instead of doing Steven + Supp Scyther on Regi, gonna be Dugtrio instead
Karen i'm not sure, maybe she'll be on Azelf to compensate my lack of teams on him
Lodge Wally + Clair on Coba

karmic willow
#

lodge wally on clair is nice. i think i've seen enough people running that to decide for myself

graceful folio
#

do you already know how high you gonna aim for this lg iteration bud?

karmic willow
#

Hilbert and top on regi is a bit copium but i will try that

errant plume
#

Karen can duo Regi or Azelf with any Eggmon, Arcanine/Rapidash and so on

karmic willow
#

also steven is looking to be a bit more of an azelf clear for me tbh

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i think i should have enough defense droppers

errant plume
karmic willow
#

like Bp Clemont, Fall Hilbert and so on

karmic willow
graceful folio
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jesus christ lmao, lemme know how it goes then, i am very interested

errant plume
# karmic willow Hilbert and top on regi is a bit copium but i will try that

All the infos for my team : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vSuW1GMMBGTGavXeXKz6LtmkoOFX3FrIBaIxwrmhINM/

Starting 2v1 in this video, but with eggmons only !

0:00 - Tornadus 30 : Bea (Palentine 2022) + Lapras Tech
12:43 - Registeel 30 : Olympia
16:30 - Tapu Bulu 31 : Valerie + Scorbunny Tech
22:40 - Tornadus 31 : Falkner (Variety) + Fea...

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errant plume
true tartan
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all 3 stages have over 100 solos

karmic willow
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XD

errant plume
#

300 solos ez MinaBreak

karmic willow
#

oh then

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bugsy

true tartan
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many are shared between lol

karmic willow
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bugsy with who tho lmfao

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don't tell me it's a flincher cuz i would seriously have to cope with that lmfao

graceful folio
errant plume
errant plume
karmic willow
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i should have known

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then again imma do ss lana + flincher on zelf

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so

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eh

karmic willow
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i am scared of how frail he is belleba save me

graceful folio
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trust the process

errant plume
karmic willow
#

the frailest i've done is

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uhh

tender horizon
karmic willow
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sc emmet + seaking

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ouch

tender horizon
tender horizon
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Theres no shields

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But i might just do an overkill DC wally Lodge wally

errant plume
#

Increasing your damage by 50% is quite good when you're using a weak unit DawnNom

tender horizon
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Or a trio with trashmon tank

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The lodge rika

river cliff
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What's the play for Lillie? She might be ok with azelf if she had her grid expansion in time but eh

tender horizon
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Oh my current plan for lodge wally is Archie

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Hmm

river cliff
#

Actually I wonder if she and volo could do something with mass unfortuitous drops

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On regi

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That steel weakness do be rough tho

karmic willow
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i'd like to throw my hat in and say

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Volo + Grant is a thing

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cynthia at home

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though, much, much less consistent

river cliff
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Double steel weak does not sound great

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But just don't get hit I guess

lost juniper
#

They meant Lodge Volo probably because sandstorm

karmic willow
#

yeah

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lodge volo i mean

#

XD

#

though

#

base volo is

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gonna be a big question for now

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like he does a lot of things

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but at the same time, not enough

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idk what i'm saying XD

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urghhhhh

#

being so good at debuffing everything

#

means you're gonna get cooked somewhere like SS Leaf is death on Azelf unless 3/5

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i am probably doing Volo + Valerie

lost juniper
#

I think Base Volo is best on Azelf

lost juniper
river cliff
karmic willow
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i remember

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getting her 3/5 from dailies when og banner dropped

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then 4/5 from victory road

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and candy for 5/5 because that attack drop is

#

hella fineeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

lost juniper
karmic willow
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i mean some say

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bruno + v agatha on steel so

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i can save ss leaf

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@errant plume oh boy v agatha, what's the plan for this one

lost juniper
#

Why use her on Azelf

karmic willow
lost juniper
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Psychic weak though

karmic willow
#

then again, she is a good steel pair so i need something to kill it before it kills leaf

karmic willow
#

but then of course

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I did Lodge Elesa with viola carry

lost juniper
#

Elesa is fire weak

karmic willow
#

skip to half bar 1 and she heals to full

lost juniper
#

Flamethrower so yeah

karmic willow
#

those bug bites are PAINFUL

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and viola can drop sp.atk

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they are not that life threatening

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especially with gear

#

you will live

lost juniper
#

OG Viola?

karmic willow
#

10%? 20%?

karmic willow
#

she lives til the end btw and i won

#

This is bar 3

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yeah, she definitely lives alright

#

hype up can allow you to skip bar 2 entirely

errant plume
karmic willow
#

also

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darach is stuck with lodge gio for me

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i seriously hate poison nukes

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@errant plume so bruno with a sleeper of some kind?

#

you did do v agatha last time so, idk if i should do that

river cliff
#

Hm what to do with event oak...

karmic willow
#

unless you have attack debuffer

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then he's super okay

river cliff
#

I don't hate running him with Nanu somewhere

karmic willow
#

nanu?

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steel

river cliff
#

Flag bearer and nanu is pretty fast + some leniency with healing

stuck mantle
#

Fuck this latias 2 crit in row😒

karmic willow
stuck mantle
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And stupid -3 spe def

#

If not i would win it

karmic willow
#

get lucky 😘

stuck mantle
#

Maybe she need exr for it😞😭

#

So more bulck

errant plume
karmic willow
#

Saying that bruno can't do it bar 3

#

Let's just say

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After a 71k nuke

#

I don't think he'd say that lol

karmic willow
#

Like the problem here mainly is

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You do damage ontype so

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At least in my team building theory

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Ontypes are able to win with an okay support

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Sleep and flinch is reserved for wins you cannot win normally due to type weakness, or replace an expensive support

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Like lodge sycamore

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He is so going with agatha on azelf for example

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Even though one azelf sync he is dead

errant plume
#

Don't see him not nuking Bar 3 with this for example

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As long as he doesn't have SpDef buffs, -6 Def, enough Sync buffs should be enough

river cliff
#

Hm Morgan + Hau seems like it could work

karmic willow
#

I might do it

river cliff
#

Might need to ex morgan for it to not suck tho, that or run stoic and avoid crits

karmic willow
#

Get unbending

river cliff
#

It's more that she needs extra defense

tender horizon
#

Arent you doing Morgan and Parasect?

karmic willow
#

I am

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But then I am also reconsidering

tender horizon
#

Lucy Morgan

karmic willow
#

After seeing elek's suggestion

tender horizon
karmic willow
#

Lucy morgan is a pipe dream

tender horizon
#

Just Trap damage for first half of bar 1 idk

karmic willow
#

But not a guaranteed para so

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You might die from side damage

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Which is a real problem

#

Jasmine's selfish heal works best with someone who can heal themselves

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My only concern with Hau is

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How often can he para

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@errant plume so any new ideas for Ethan and Hau?

Ethan has his own burn so I don't wanna do Ethan and Drake again... And well, cloyster got taken

inner turret
#

ethan solo MinaBreak

tender horizon
#

Ethan and MC Pika idk

errant plume
#

Weezing is here DawnNom

river cliff
#

I might try Ethan + sandslash