Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)

[modest oar]

What a donut I am

[shy sinew]

first 5 halls with my setup meanwhile takes 3 minutes?

[modest oar]

Yeah totally got you

[worthy horizon]

i'm not a believer in grinding for 1* cookies btw, it's fine to go to 17

[modest oar]

Why to 5 though and not just the first stage with the crunchy?

[dawn plume]

dc barry sure is a sync pair huh

[latent bear]

plz tell me there's a streak auto teams for this LG

[dawn plume]

not yet

its a unique lineup

[latent bear]

oh? it's not a repeat?

[dawn plume]

this lineup kinda blows actually

azelf and registeel both need you to defend against def/spdef debuffs

[worthy horizon]

still have some individual teams but you'll have to manage the overlaps

but it's the same thing with all the other gauntlets tbh

[shy sinew]

the hall reward on stage 5 gives you a 1/3 chance at 10 more cookies

expected value jumps from 1 cookie per hall you do to 1.06 so maybe just 1 hall is worth

[worthy horizon]

auto doc is in the pins

[shy sinew]

It’s LG9 but Entei became Registeel

[shy notch]

I finally have the chance to grind 3* cookies from LG…battle villa is a pain

[dawn plume]

why no raikou bruh

[latent bear]

meh, worst case i will just use my 18 specific type teams, those can nuke stuff hard.

[modest oar]

Splendigedig thank you very much

[shy sinew]

because DeNA just has a thing for Registeel

[dawn plume]

this the fattest skip month in history i should probably get one of the arc pairs

besides steven i have steven

[worthy horizon]

lance isn't incredibly important to have tbh as a lance owner

barely usable in ubs lol

afaik

[shy notch]

Lance’s personal lucky skill has good use for UBs

Particularly against Noland

[lost juniper]

Cynthia is probably better than Lance

[shy sinew]

actually I think you were on to something going 4 extra halls for a quarter of a relevant cookie seems not worth, I switched to SS Hau solo auto first hall only lol

so uh does anyone here have a one-turn auto clear for BV hall 1 or is 2 really the best I’m getting

[modest oar]

Seeing what I can put together now lol

[shy sinew]

Geeta could do it if she had Furious Brawn but alas

[worthy horizon]

geeta can auto solo to hall 15 and just needs a duo partner to take out hilda consistently

[modest oar]

Neo Blast Burn on Blue with Morty sunbursting or whatever it's called just did in 1

[shy sinew]

sure but just looking for the fastest hall 1 reset

[river cliff]

1/5 SS Ethan can 1 turn hall 1 if you have a couple johto pairs with him

[lost juniper]

Arc Cynthia EQ gg

[river cliff]

Geeta can also 1 shot it

[lost juniper]

CMarnie too

And probably CRed as well

[river cliff]

Can they do it with no tm tho?

[shy sinew]

I like this. Full SS Johtrio makes this quite a bit easier

[lost juniper]

Idk actually

But Marnie should be stronger than SS Ethan

[shy sinew]

seems like all the mix pairs can do it but the AI prefers max move turn 1

[river cliff]

Ss ethan has extend range tho

[lost juniper]

Right. Forgot for a bit

[river cliff]

Bp falkner and ss kris are the best teammates, but sometimes the ai decides that falkner is the better attacker for some reason. Seems like it's varied across updates, it makes no sense

[modest oar]

That will do me

[shy sinew]

Sunburst being a 5/5 tile yikes

[modest oar]

Yeah that's a bummer

[worthy horizon]

before i go to bed i still gotta mention that 1* cookies are 10x less efficient than 2*s in grabbing the passives that end in 2 like stoic 2 and fast track 2, serebii will have the exact odds

so uh remember that while doing whatever you're doing imo

[dawn plume]

chase not rerunning this month means he’s my mix pity

huzzah

[river cliff]

Yeah you're looking at roughly 1% of your cookies yielding anything with bronzes, it's not great

[modest oar]

Yeah I will try that too @worthy horizon

[shy sinew]

but it takes more than 10x as long to make it to a single 2* cookie, that’s the main problem

[river cliff]

It's very much worth it if you get 8 from hall 15, but the odds aren't great

[worthy horizon]

yeah more than one way to do things and i def haven’t measured anything out

[shy sinew]

again skip tickets in Villa would solve all of this

[worthy horizon]

but i do really hate spending extra time on rolling and i'm fine transferring it to farming

[shy sinew]

I’ll just farm while I’m at work ngl, software is the perfect job where I can take my hands off the keyboard for 2 seconds to press the reset button and restart hall 1 lol

[tender horizon]

But grant is steel weak

So thats just stupid

[shy sinew]

tbh I don’t know if I’ve ever used Grant in a LG streak before, because I’m not as familiar with these weird duo teams yet

[dawn plume]

he sux

tries to do too much

isnt that good at any of it

lodge lear is GOOD what da hell

[gleaming cypress]

he’s gonna outnuke lodge cheren in dark 1v1 DC most likely

innate rising tide

but in LG?

[dawn plume]

dc9 so he goes to registeel i think

though azelf also wants def debuffs!!!! good lineup dena!!!!!!

imma be mad about this forever

[sturdy steeple]

All three debuff your defenses and annoyingly status you

[dawn plume]

3 physical syncs

2 steel syncs

[shy sinew]

yeah I want Entei LG9 back

[tender horizon]

Entei also quite physical

[sturdy steeple]

SsMina is not having a fun time

(she's weak to poison

[shy sinew]

though LG10 rerun is looking likely next and that looks adequately not fun

[sturdy steeple]

(she's weak to poison

[lost juniper]

She can solo Regi at least

[sturdy steeple]

What was lg10,,

[shy sinew]

Moltres Latias third

[sturdy steeple]

Explodes

[shy sinew]

I think third was Uxie?

[sturdy steeple]

Also I feel like they keep doing registeel this year so next year they can keep doing Raikou or something

Just to inject the new stages into more LGs

[shy sinew]

yeah they have an obsession with adding Registeel into their rerun gauntlets over “the easy boss”

[coral summit]

Have these 3 been in a LG together before?

[true tartan]

nope

Registeel has appeared only once before

[shy sinew]

twice

[coral summit]

but the parameters for each are the same right?

[shy sinew]

Registeel’s initial release was in LG, and there was one more not too long ago

[heavy sinew]

no cress

[shy sinew]

Each is the Very Hard difficulty stage from the LA fights

[true tartan]

ah yeah, twice

I remember doing the Diantha solo twice lol

[shy notch]

I wonder if they will ever make Super Hard battles for each of the LA bosses with new passives

[sturdy steeple]

Having to do the Riley solo again 💀

[heavy sinew]

do NOT remind me

[true tartan]

that'd mean they gain Resilience... and so on, many would be impossible to solo lol

[shy sinew]

well I had a couple redemption solos planned on Azelf Cobalion (I started planning for a LG9 rerun but didn’t get very far) that should be a lot easier with energy overcap, but Registeel will be interesting

[true tartan]

I'd have fun myself, but can't say much about others

[shy notch]

I feel like resilience is mostly reserved for ultimate/extreme battles

[true tartan]

HSE has it

[shy notch]

Losing the ability to flinch lock would be a nightmare

[dawn plume]

NO GOD NO NOT RILEY AGAIN

[true tartan]

more than losing the ability to flinch, is being more restricted on when to do it

[shy sinew]

will once again be skipping the Riley solo since I lack EX and that multiplier seems important

[vernal steppe]

Is the guaranteed cookie Interference Immunity like it says in the pins or have the pins not updated yet?

[chrome halo]

The guaranteed cookie is Healthy Healing

[dawn plume]

GAUNTLET IS ONLY 2 WEEKS???

[vernal steppe]

Thanks for the info, my wait for the next Adrenaline cookie continues

[shy sinew]

oh no it’s usually 3 isn’t it

Super Sparring had to ruin our fun huh

[dawn plume]

oct 9 - 23

[shy sinew]

well at least they gave us more time to prepare

[dawn plume]

i literally just cant do this gauntlet i do not have time

yeah super sparring drops as soon as gauntlet ends

this shit… is ass 🥲

[stuck mantle]

Yes 7:59 end lg 8:00 dc start🤣

Funny

1m break

[river cliff]

At least we don't really have overlapping gimmicks this time

[stuck mantle]

All 3 we can flinch

Perma

[gleaming cypress]

quick toilet break lol 🤣

[stuck mantle]

Azelf can be sleep perma regi too bar 3 only

Coba status

Para best

[river cliff]

Can't wait to try to figure out how to make poison work on cobalion again

[shy sinew]

oh yeah last time I remember doing a silly little James clear on Cobalion that took me way too long

[river cliff]

At least Koga + Mesprit, Bertha + Nidoking, and Hilda + Nidoqueen are pretty free

[gleaming cypress]

how do you guys plan to autofarm this time

[dawn plume]

ehh not really

azelf and registeel are both debuffing your defenses

[river cliff]

Yeah but you don't have to worry about where to put your defense debuffers since it's only borderline mandatory on registeel

[shy sinew]

I’m not, got enough surplus from last gauntlet to hopefully last me a year or two

[kind imp]

Should be in February

3* deluxe has 12 passives, the last new guaranteed cookie was in LG 12

And since lg13 they have repeated giving them again in the same order
So you can kinda predict which are the next cookies and then multiply by 2 months to know the month

#1012311116778586182 message

[nova grove]

oh do we know who the next gauntlet is

i missed that in the datamine

[kind imp]

Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion

[nova grove]

....

well

ig it could be worse

[chrome halo]

It could be better, if Entei was not replaced by Registeel

At least it's easier than 2 recent LGs

[nova grove]

yeah

its certainly not Good

but

its not terrakion regirock uxie again

so

[shy sinew]

and if next is LG10 rerun like I think it’s going to be then we should be glad it’s not that either

[river cliff]

Hopefully we can finally chill again with lg19

[nova grove]

oh no

what was lg10

[shy sinew]

Moltres Latias Tornadus

it was a worse third than I remember

so it’s bad, bad, and somehow worse

[nova grove]

oh god

[kind imp]

I think it was uxie, moltres, latias

[shy sinew]

yeah that looks plausible

checking Bulbapedia and they just don’t have row separators on the historical gauntlets

like this might be the worst formatted table I’ve ever seen

[tender horizon]

Doesnt matter, are u gonna be going for longer streak within the 2 weeks

[river cliff]

We basically just turned a week of gauntlet into a week of planning

[sturdy steeple]

lmao

[karmic willow]

@silent shell @chrome halo

go voice chat

@sturdy steeple do you want to join vc and plan team with us?

[sturdy steeple]

right now? cant

[karmic willow]

awww :< can i make a reservation for that

so like

wait what's the time over there again?

[sturdy steeple]

afternoon

[karmic willow]

ohhhhh

damn

so morning for me is night for you

aight some days would work

[dawn plume]

thats a mobile problem

it sucks

[shy sinew]

yeah a line separator would be nice

however I would not like to see DeNA break tradition for a Moltres Latias Tornadus gauntlet that might just make me uninstall

[dawn plume]

2 week gauntlet got me considering uninstall

i guess i dont have an excuse to not plan this time

[chrome halo]

Sounds good

[karmic willow]

go

[chrome halo]

no

[quaint tartan]

Is this lg only 2 weeks?

[shy sinew]

yeah

unclear if they thought an extra week of planning or super sparring were sufficient cause to make that 2 weeks instead of 3

[dawn plume]

ffs i woulda pulled on this if i hadnt just gotten jacq from selects

[gleaming cypress]

for DC you barely need any planning tbh

sooo many triple features this month

[dawn plume]

yeah they’re doing the exr triple features again

w the paid banners

since i’m guessing they did well last time

[chrome halo]

Diantha getting tech exr is 🚮

Not like it's bad but i like sup more

[shy sinew]

yeah they did so well at screwing me over

[karmic willow]

same as red

[versed badge]

Those banners are really popular yea

They let new whales or dolphins catch up

They especially work well after such a hit or miss Anni trio

So people who skipped them can grab old units

[dawn plume]

if i didnt just get jacq i might be tempted to dump paid gems into the support cake banner

[karmic willow]

@chrome halo come back noooo

[nova grove]

so ok

presumably azelf gets dibs on all impervious units this cycle

registeel wants def/spdef drops and unbending/stalwart (can maybe skip stalwart if you can nuke bar 3 fast enough)

cobalion wants status but also unbending

as far as mixed attackers with impervious, i guess mina???

oh and calem

[kind imp]

Azelf doesn't debuff sides much

So non tanks being debuff immune doesn't matter that much

Registeel debuffs are aoe

But he doesn't have aoe special attacks
So sp.def buffs/stalwart on non tanks also isn't that necessary

[nova grove]

gotcha

[kind imp]

And depending on the clear stoic is better than unbending

[nova grove]

to be clear im thinking for grids

not ls

[kind imp]

ah

[nova grove]

imperv being the base here which iirc is grid/passive only, no ls

theyre all around the same number of solos (117, 114, 104)

so now im trying to comb through for which particularly mixed attackers have imperv for azelf

since that seems to be the most restrictive

[quaint tartan]

For me, only 2 good roles are SSN and SSMina

[pearl beacon]

[quaint tartan]

Rest is salt

[pearl beacon]

What

[quaint tartan]

[nova grove]

so far we have:

• kabu (on a technicality of ember + special centiferno)
• variety guzma (struggle bug... 😭 at least itll be super effective)
• sygna lana
• mc/solgaleo (focus blast. lmao)
• sycamore (horn leech. again, lmao)
• nc calem (those poor atk stats)
• zerena
• arguably classic blue w/ spec attacks on phys sync?
• rachel (i think this is worse than ember)
• mina

[quaint tartan]

Still salty about Nchop and BtLeon

[pearl beacon]

Why the hell every single old af pair, that I have 5/5 is recieving shit every single time

Next time will be Gloria, watch for sprint

[nova grove]

all the other imperv units would need someone of the other attack type to pair with them if theyre not absolutely busted to the level of brute forcing through the dmg reduction

at least hop exists so losing mc/solgaleo to azelf isnt as bad

and none of those are fighting so regi isnt missing any of them to a massive degree

wait no

cobalion is steel sync not steel weak lmao

fire weak means aw rip for no kabu

[kind imp]

Also sometimes flinch is all the defensive power you need for azelf

But they also can be painfull

[nova grove]

yeah, flinchlock requires your other unit to have a guaranteed post-turn proc right?

eg ft9 or smth

courtney with dc9 post sync

etc

tho also

that zinnia winona

what were you cooking thats insane

[kind imp]

Pain, won't be doing it again
Also most of my teams are stolen

[nova grove]

im in fearful awe

also wow cobalion has some surprisingly accessible autos

[inner turret]

If you dont see any grid is means it's pretty old and probably heavily reliant on rng

[nova grove]

ah.

it seems like most are missing grids on azelf and im not sure whats going on with these either

[tender horizon]

I wonder how hard fhis is

[nova grove]

so it looks like i should get labbing on potential autos then

[nova grove]

very

[tender horizon]

Ok im just gonna do winona zinnia and 3rd then

[nova grove]

how good/bad is the auto at working around things like ramping immunity?

i know on bulu it went hard on rika poison sting to reup poison at the start of each bar

even when 100% not necessary

[dawn plume]

if the auto knows its immune i think it wont try

[nova grove]

ok, so rika tanking for cobalion could work

solid

actually wait

theres probably a way to auto with arc steven

im guessing youd want to use him on azelf too for his debuff inversion

[dawn plume]

arc steven clears coba easy

he just doesnt die

[nova grove]

which was his lvl 1 clear

[kind imp]

Latios

[dawn plume]

i am def getting 7/5 ss red from that ticket scout

[vital ibex]

real

i'm getting 2/5 marnie (i am never taking her past 1/5 willingly)

[dawn plume]

also lillie first year 2 unit to get the masters day grid expansion… ss elesa and ss grimsley still needed one badly but ok

[tender horizon]

180 clears within 14 days, 13 clears per day

fuck

[shy notch]

Lillie’s expansion is so underwhelming. She could’ve at least gotten team sentry entry 2…

[tender horizon]

i think it was ok

it fixed her problem

kinda

[karmic willow]

ugh

swimsuit misty works for lodge rosa

[dawn plume]

i actually have well documented teams for all 3 of these

cuz i cataloged all my clears for lg13 and 14

time to reuse

[blissful rose]

Same, I'm just gonna reuse most of them.

2 weeks is not enough time to be cheap

[river cliff]

I'm not looking forward to doing the geeta solo again

On registeel

Also the repository has a lot of clears for these arenas documented so that's going to help a ton

[pearl beacon]

The era of going cheapER is over

[karmic willow]

well at least

we got decent time to plan

right?

[pearl beacon]

Hmm they're cutting the last or the first week?

[sturdy steeple]

Last week

[pearl beacon]

Rip

[sturdy steeple]

LG actually has been starting like first-early second weekish lately

It was clearly just cut because of DC event for some reason

[karmic willow]

now it's literally

speedrun, the mode

dump all your stuff in

@sturdy steeple i swear it's gonna be so stressful

[vital ibex]

wdym lillie is a year 1 unit

shes the mascot of the game

(i agree it Shouldve Been Grimsley)

[sturdy steeple]

Yes, this LG is going to be speed run

Gonna suck having to record it all

[river cliff]

It'll be interesting to see how the shorter time affects top 100

[karmic willow]

you want to know

what I'd believe?

I believe that

more compromises will be made

we won't see solos as crazy as the barry solo latios one

[sturdy steeple]

Not a great example cause that one is horrendous

But yeah definitely just add a second unit to real difficult solos

[karmic willow]

idk if there are anything like that though

[karmic willow]

well some people did took their sweet time doing it that one season

i remember seeing time doing it

and i literally went "HUH?"

[sturdy steeple]

some people like, 2 at most

[karmic willow]

At this rate

I gotta make a lot of compromises

Finding perfect partners for stuff like

Volo lodge feels

Awful

[pearl beacon]

I've been noting efficient teams 10min max of attempts
I guess i'll cut that to 5

Evasion solos will be brutally affected

[karmic willow]

Real talk

Is strike machamp worth looking into?

This time

As well as the fire strike eggmons

[pearl beacon]

He's too mediocre, even compared to lee

Def not a 5* priority

[kind imp]

sup zard is pretty good

Better than strike I think

[pearl beacon]

He's good for coba
The difference is that Regi open bar2 n 3 with sure crit aoes

So eggos will have harder time against him and most likely explode unless heavily babysitted

[tender horizon]

yalls i can get one DC unit to 3/5 for this LG, which should it be? Thinking DC wally

also im nto doing any solos

[heavy sinew]

I did Gladion

[karmic willow]

Gladion

[quaint tartan]

Silver

[karmic willow]

Unfort strike

Kinda nuts

[sturdy steeple]

hes really good yeah, you can just pair a 3/5 gladion with some atk buffing egg and be chill

[karmic willow]

So many overlaps

Ugh

@sturdy steeple what's your take on dc wally?

Ez drops on steel

Or para on coba

[sturdy steeple]

i dunno

im goign to plan all of the units that are like restricted to one stage first and hten go from there

[karmic willow]

Yeah...

Best to do that

Meanwhile

I am still struggling with

"do i want to do marley + event blue" or "calem +event blue" and miss out on a potential calem + ss lusamine clear

I am quite the theme skills enjoyer

[sturdy steeple]

i do like thematic teams a lot

[karmic willow]

You know what

Theme skills ftw

[tender horizon]

ofc

Theme skills make the game so much funners

i like Gladion and silver too mph

ok Silver it is

I MEAN GLADION

[dawn plume]

i got hella tickets cuz i was saving for gauntlet

i’ll grab barry but he looks mid

i have silver and gladion 2/5

what else should i get hmm

[tender horizon]

Oh fk , do i need to put Glacia to Azelf cus shes steel weak

thats such a waste tho

:/

[stuck mantle]

Blue and zam

Para for coba is nice

[dawn plume]

i have them all 1/5

just wondering who wants dupes

[tender horizon]

save for future then

[dawn plume]

por que

i was saving for gauntlet

[tender horizon]

ok then uh 3/5 a Sprint unit for the nuke

[karmic willow]

Man

Evelyn ss red takes me back

I know some crazy person out there đid electabuzz and prayed for a ton of para / stone edge dodge hax

That life is not for me

[sturdy steeple]

para proc gambling

[karmic willow]

Better to win than to weep

Also

I completely forgot how blue and marley worked

Like

When do you even nuke XD

[errant plume]

Didn't know 1-2 para/dodge was ton of para / dodge

[karmic willow]

Oh hey nice

[karmic willow]

My luck is sad so you tell me

[errant plume]

The real issue is Stone Edge critting you, otherwise it's ok

[karmic willow]

Wait what

UnbendingM

[tender horizon]

where is Prof oak Nidorino going

[errant plume]

Stoic

[karmic willow]

Stoic

I see

Man

Who can ss nemona duo to take on registeel

....

[tender horizon]

sun setter i guess

maybe Supp Fuecoco?

omg Naomi's BP Surge + Event Blue vs Coba clear is genius

[toxic kernel]

So, who is getting Shauntal and testing her in LA for the sake of science ?

[dawn plume]

moltres is quaking

shes all nuke no dps

which is actually perfect for moltres

[rocky oasis]

gonna be grabbing 2/5 dc nemona and marnie

at least the sprints seem much more functional at 1/5

[dawn plume]

hmm making a useless unit usable or making a meh unit good

[rocky oasis]

gotta make the dc units at least somewhat usable

[dawn plume]

i really like wally’s 3/5 grid tho

hmm

[median swan]

with +6e he soloes coba

[rocky oasis]

its a pretty painful solo tho

[median swan]

it is lol

think gladion has the best 3/5

[vital ibex]

agree

he was my first 3/5, blue was second

barry's gonna be my third once he comes out cuz i love floatzel

[median swan]

dc barry really came in with the double power play

[tender horizon]

is barry's nuke good though

[dawn plume]

double power play is stronk

but hes sprint not tech so no 50% boost from ex

his debuffs are slow and pretty rng reliant too

so meh

[vital ibex]

Tbf you can keep aqua jet up most of the time

Wait can quick combo proc off of quick moves

It can right

My nate memory is failing me

[karmic willow]

idk but

i'm somewhat against that clear

surge can carry even the likes of mina

and surge + gladion is, well, you get to use all the buffs

[tender horizon]

gladion's Registeel for me for sure

[karmic willow]

yeah but

surge + mina

should be on your list on coba

[tender horizon]

I dont really wanna invest Mina on Coba

kek

[karmic willow]

crush claw gaming

[tender horizon]

Naomi did SS Elesa + Surge vs Coba

looks difficult tho

ima copy that maybe with a accuracy debuff or idk

[karmic willow]

it was

a clear that i also tried

anyways

is cobalion (player) + hitmonchan

the most optimal?

[tender horizon]

ye i heard

and torchic Marshal is a thing too right

[karmic willow]

yes it is

but some crazy folks got primeape too

And opened torchic for

Wallace to own coba

I am thinking about doing that team for realises

[dawn plume]

yea

[karmic willow]

HYPE UP

[sturdy steeple]

if youre looking at my old teams then reminder that i moved all of my previous lg compilation docs to a central doc

[sturdy steeple]

seems cool

[tender horizon]

yalls

Valerie and 3/5 SS Mina vs Azelf

over kill or not

maybe they can even do registeel mm

[lost juniper]

Mina solos Registeel

[tender horizon]

Good idea

[tender horizon]

I dont wanna do time consuming clears

[pearl beacon]

Barry if you can take it
Is stupid good

Innate powerplay +gridded powerplay def on top of my priorities

[tender horizon]

you know his power play is dependent on his quick move refreshes

[pearl beacon]

50% refresh, synchro quickening and aqua tail DC9 eventually

And you can have slow ass supports

[quaint tartan]

And a teammate to help

[tender horizon]

MINA SLANDER

[sturdy steeple]

It was a noble purpose

[lost juniper]

I'm lowkey thinking to use Mina for that way too, but with SC Zinnia on Cobalion

All she need is just some attack debuffs then die

[sturdy steeple]

Doing the same thing, I don't want to use a bad status unit and have restart an entire run multiplie times cause she procced the beef up a single time

[lost juniper]

I guess I could go cheaper with Tech Persian and save Mina for something else

[kind imp]

she's also steel weak

so she's kinda bad this lg

[sturdy steeple]

shes probably just going to be a charm bot to me

i dont want to make her work without ex

[kind imp]

any ideas for ex?

[shy sinew]

looking over my old clears and they're so much more overkill than I remember them being sigh

[sturdy steeple]

if she was ex id use her with a bad status support vs cobalion or try to make something work vs azelf idk

[chrome halo]

innate Impervious -> Azelf tank

[lost juniper]

I like this team

[sturdy steeple]

its been 10 months and i still havent ex'd wallace yet

[lost juniper]

Same. I never had a reason to

Especially now with Mix Blue

[shy sinew]

someone stop me if this is too much (lithe on 3/5 EX pallow to counter body slap stupidity)

[sturdy steeple]

thats good

[shy sinew]

does 5* tech fearow live long enough to continue providing value? yes if it's +6 defense right?

[sturdy steeple]

pmallow just needs any second unit becuase the solo is roughh

as long as it doesnt die to eq or sync, it should be ok

[shy sinew]

yeah I just tried it a bit ago because it looks like it can be lowered to 3/5 but paralysis quickly dashed that

[sturdy steeple]

you can also just any horrible strike with mallow ifo you dont want to use a leer unit

[worthy horizon]

taking this for now

mg2 barry

ex cheryl gets them out of bar 1 much sooner

i think

[lost juniper]

How hard was it?

[worthy horizon]

not, just need decent mg2 procs to get out of bar 1 asap

-4 on second sync was sufficient there

[sturdy steeple]

we love stalwart unbending supports

[worthy horizon]

but really you should just be spamming bubble beam instead of bubble like i did and trying to make trip up work bc it barely does anything

azelf only stopped moving at all on bar 3

frfr

[dark bolt]

I plan on using Brendan & Sceptile against Regirock so who should I partner with him?

[kind imp]

you mean registeel?

how many clears are you aiming for?

[dark bolt]

No I mean Regirock

For the LA

[kind imp]

ah

which supports do you have?

[tender horizon]

Hop

and then for the middle, use Acerola

[dark bolt]

Why Acerola?

Also I was hoping to use my Sun leaf storm sync grid

[shy sinew]

presumably to flinch it on iron defense and continue blitzing through bar 2 without crit immunity

[dark bolt]

Assuming that’s possible

[shy sinew]

acerola has 60% flinch from her 1/5 grid, it's very much possible

[dark bolt]

I was talking about the sun leaf storm

[dark bolt]

Also why can’t you upgrade Acerola without using candies?

[shy sinew]

because she's a story pair, we get a copy of her once every 4 months on masters day

[worthy horizon]

0 mprs and stoic 1 on barry, dauntless gardenia

[pearl beacon]

Barry can go with a striker eggo

Just do the same thing as DC spam spore

[worthy horizon]

ye he can solo already so he could technically succeed with literally anything else

i think this is best for cutting down time/rng requirement

without being too expensive

[pearl beacon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPzU4Mewbmc

But that was with 0/20 barry

[sturdy steeple]

i wouldnt use an eggmon with him as the opportunity cost of other tech/support eggs would be higher for other runs

[pearl beacon]

Idk what to put with him now that's ex

[worthy horizon]

yeah that takes the opportunity cost of tech or support scorbunny

[pearl beacon]

Tech or supp scorbunny are mediocre or forced for this round

That's why Trick was looking to swtich to trike fire eggos

[worthy horizon]

and no existing teams for gardenia on repo

[pearl beacon]

If you need some firepower, they can work well
~~ wxcept rapidash arcanine they sucks ~~

I have 3 lg recorded on this device

I still need to upload some runs

4

Def no time for it, someone will replicate n upload them eventually

At least LG13 was the only I documented time to steal to myself

[worthy horizon]

it's possible to give shauntal too much hp to where lessen burn 9 grid + lessen burn 9 ls deals 1 dmg instead of 0

and rn i think it's ghost theme skill pushing it over that edge bc it didn't happen in my moltres duo or in the latios solo

does 99 dmg unmitigated

seems like it's not the best call anyway but it's a little annoying

yeah +60 hp from ghost support is doing it

[nova grove]

wait

what

is this a rounding/percentage error thing?

[pearl beacon]

If the result is <1 then is just 0

[dark bolt]

I beat it but used Arc Steven and Abi Lillie

[shy sinew]

I mean arc steven can solo everything at 1/5 so can't say I'm surprised...

[toxic kernel]

Too bad Dena stops making new LA posing new challenges to solo pairs

[karmic willow]

What's the verdict again on pal mallow?

I am doing pal mallow + viola on azelf but

It feels weird

[median swan]

hilda can duo coba with tech scor

[worthy horizon]

792 is too much hp for lessen burn 9 x2 to return 0 dmg, 787 is low enough

792/8 returns exactly 99 so it should have been low enough but it isn't

[pearl beacon]

Isnt 800 the cap for 1%? Not sure if she reach that

[worthy horizon]

she doesn't, unmitigated damage is 99

[pearl beacon]

If you have enough dps for it
On LG13 i was begging for some dmg

But also we had latos eating all of them

[worthy horizon]

ok there is the 10 hp on grid that actually does push her over 800, just weird that the unmitigated is still 99

[pearl beacon]

1% of 1/8, yep

Serously, Flint EX?

Not even an expansion, oh well📉

[heavy sinew]

Should've been flannery

[pearl beacon]

True, we hope for next

~~ molaine ~~

[shy sinew]

hm, does 1/5 non-ex variety kiawe have enough of a sync nuke to bar skip cobalion

[pearl beacon]

[shy sinew]

okay this is actually cool

[pearl beacon]

It's damn good
Not sure abt Lillie expansion, still a lot selfish focused but that custom LS is huge

And also quite random

[shy sinew]

giacomo's custom cookie is vigilance

[dawn plume]

????????

strike tech unit

purely damage oriented

vigilance

[shy sinew]

that can also get vigilance from you know, NORMAL lucky cookies

dena had to fumble the bag somewhere on that kit I suppose

[dark bolt]

Who should I pair with Bea and Riley against Registeel

[pearl beacon]

0/20? Abt 6 sync buffs for Bar2
Maybe with some SE unit

[shy sinew]

you simultaneously need a defensive support and a defense debuffer, I'd pick one of those damage dealers only

[shy sinew]

ig I could run him with a partner that farms sync buffs in bar 1

1/5 vlucas double dips, lodge leaf is steel weak, 1/5 fall caitlin?

[sturdy steeple]

Sorry we have to go thru every strike first before we touch the supports or techs

Flint alt incoming for new years bet

[dawn plume]

ny flint and magmortar was heavily predicted

a long time ago now lol

[sturdy steeple]

To compliment his boyfriend ofc

[raven crane]

I was gonna say that.

[shy notch]

OG Flint is but his inevitable NY alt getting delayed this much means he’s gonna be gooood

[lost juniper]

NY Flint & Magmortar please

I hope him and Volkner troll Lear again

[chrome halo]

Lear's biggest fear:
Team Break ❎
Team Rocket ❎
Volkner ✅

[karmic willow]

I see

[karmic willow]

So guys

Bt leon

Coba solo?

[dawn plume]

making a planning sheet its copy-pasted from lg13 and lg14 so there are overlaps and its not finished but i'll be working on this over the next few weeks https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pmWJ1Xdv85CLeCaSX3J0BtWT4GQccAbf86qMxK7SpXU/edit?usp=sharing

[karmic willow]

I mean

With a defensive eggmon

I think he has a pretty good chance on registeel no?

[dawn plume]

he can solo all 3

but so can like

a lot of units

[karmic willow]

Pretty sure

He cannot solo registeel lol

Sme with zelf

[dawn plume]

he can

2/5 on all of them

needs exr for registeel

[karmic willow]

Urgh

Gonna have to

Put him on the "plan later" list

So many

[pearl beacon]

Azelf may be a relief with Impervious n regens
Statusers for Coba should def not be limiting

[dawn plume]

alt leon is piercing blows so status isnt even that important there

[pearl beacon]

Yeah

[karmic willow]

Yeah

He kinda

Kills all 3 at this rate

Now the question is

What do I place for azelf

Because azelf teambuilding is seriously concerning

[pearl beacon]

Overall PB on Coba are debatable this time
Mayyyybe 10 LGs ago

[dawn plume]

lmao "surely next time someone will hit 300" and its 2 weeks

[pearl beacon]

I'll pray for their sanity

[karmic willow]

I mean

Elek was quite close to it

270

In a different rotation

I just hope i can also pull it off

As in, 270 not 300

[pearl beacon]

Nao always closed in 2w lately so she'll be fine
But still Pain
Was the most enjoyable gamemode now it's another rush

[dawn plume]

literally ive sent feedback asking for MORE TIME

[karmic willow]

More time to plan

More time to play

[pearl beacon]

Or less of both

[dawn plume]

i mean super sparring is more rewards so we're getting more stuff in general

[karmic willow]

Maybe save an old clear and auto do that

[dawn plume]

but i wanna play lg

sigh

[karmic willow]

Same

It's the only mode where i can constantly talk about creative team building

Hse is "right unit or die"

Dc is "right unit, get hax on stuff like para and spam your way once you have stuff like Chase, Melony"

[dawn plume]

i like dc a bit

[pearl beacon]

I dropped hse at ghost, too boring
DC is cool but fading quickly
LG is the og cool gamemode that Dena is trying to undermine

[dawn plume]

its more fun than hse a bit

super sparring forces us to get creative at least

[pearl beacon]

And it doesnt't require huge investments

Those few key units x type/role coversge and you're good

I may have a lot of stuff but mostly 1/5 and ghost HSE slapped me so hard I just decided to get 200k and be good w it

[karmic willow]

I dropped at ghost because i got neither the summer units

They would have allowed me to get 500k easily

Ssr cynthia was trash

And i invested in her

Ground drag i got 550k which was

Not bad

But missing 20k for top 20 so eh, i sleep

[pearl beacon]

10 stages HSE so we can use eggos

[karmic willow]

@quaint tartan Courtney was good

[dawn plume]

ghost hse couldnt use ssr cynthia lol

ground hse couldnt use maxie

good game mode

[pearl beacon]

Fire no ssRed

Was so pissed for not being able to use a 5/5 limited

As always, old ones

[sturdy steeple]

I am not fine it is a lot of work every time

[bitter gate]

2 weeks + employment rush makes it worse for me, lawl

at least I don't need to tryhard anymore... right?

im so washed

[dawn plume]

yea im employed now too

ggs!

[bitter gate]

noice

as?

[pearl beacon]

Noted

[dawn plume]

my position says teacher but i feel like more of a study hall monitor

[bitter gate]

hue, it happens

[heavy sinew]

W

[heavy sinew]

literally me

[pearl beacon]

Oh well
I should be an artist but I'm mostly cleaning a floor
Freaking mosaic restaurations taking ages
And finishing studies

[shy notch]

Did anyone reach 300 clears yet in the recent LGs? Probably not gonna happen here with the rotation and only 2 weeks

[pearl beacon]

The closest was 3 away from it iirc

Or 13

Either 297 or 287

[shy notch]

Still pretty close

[dawn plume]

that was 2 lgs ago i think

getting terrakion then moltres kinda killed the hope of getting 300 again

it could happen with this lineup... but 2 weeks is hard

[chrome halo]

just get rid of your sleep schedule

Yeah 2 weeks are not enough

And why tf the ranked dc takes the last week

[dawn plume]

i wont complain about more candy coins

but they coulda made the events run concurrently

its not like super sparring is a huge timesink

[pearl beacon]

Nah its chill

[sturdy steeple]

Send feedback

[shy notch]

It seems they just don’t want to have concurrent ranked events

[chrome halo]

send threat

[dawn plume]

i did send feedback that i want more lg time and this was the result...

well at least i can actually plan

334 soon to be 336 pairs, and 82 soon to be 84 eggs

[shy notch]

send feedback for less time then

[dawn plume]

wait

i'll have exactly 420 sync pairs

haha nice

[worthy horizon]

nice

[dawn plume]

now i gotta slot them all

why do so many units solo all 3 this is painful

i will not be doing evil solos i vow this to myself now

evil solo = will can solo all 3 arenas, but god, please, just dont

[worthy horizon]

will is one of the weirdest to handle and idk how many people are doing his solos in gauntlet beyond like bulu and latios

and even though he can it's still difficult to find duo partners that fit

[dawn plume]

i did his regirock solo it honestly isnt terrible

esp if you give him +4 energy to grab unflappable

[worthy horizon]

oh yeah i did too i forgot

[karmic willow]

You need a hug at some point

This shit keeps getting more ass

[worthy horizon]

bp lusamine is looking like bench material lol, dunno how people are gonna do stuff with her

not seeing any clean fits so she'll need to be carried

[karmic willow]

I don't know how i did it even

[sturdy steeple]

Use her as a sun eggmon

[karmic willow]

Early đodge speed helps

Bp lusa

Hmmmmmmm

I mean her confusion hax is one team for trios

Most likely

Ss Morty and her on azelf

That is my legit only answer to her

Leaf storm and nuke the half bar

[pearl beacon]

Sun bot for Flint ex

[river cliff]

I've really liked support pidgeot with him

Crit + speed makes things so much easier to get rolling

[worthy horizon]

i'm still stuck with only tech pidgeot unfortunately

[karmic willow]

Half of the reasons why

Lg takes so much time is teambuilding

New units raises new questions

Where to check newest grids again?

[kind imp]

#datamines message

Click on the pair and scroll the site down a bit

[worthy horizon]

they can brute force cobalion (no burns) but this is way cleaner

[karmic willow]

Eh

[bitter gate]

I was thinking about using something cheaper like lusamine or Valerie, lel

[worthy horizon]

yeah flint should still be on cobalion with status

but eh i have the setup already so i'll just keep it until i know i need more stuff for cobalion

[karmic willow]

Flint and bp barry works

Sinnoh squad

[tender horizon]

Im taking dis Thx

[karmic willow]

Huh?

[worthy horizon]

yeah it's pretty simple

i didn't use leaf storms until near the end of bar 1 and then i mixed them in

[karmic willow]

Hard

Then i would need to find a partner for

Flint

[worthy horizon]

there's actually a bunch in repo

[karmic willow]

I really don't want to use flint and morty

[karmic willow]

Only one so far that i feel i can afford is surge bp

Even then

It is odd relying on fire punch

You know what

Brendan....

[tender horizon]

Volkner

[karmic willow]

Volkner?

[tender horizon]

Tank flimch para yes

I know he can duo with eggmon

But i aint doing tht

[karmic willow]

Oh yeah

Volkner

I was thibking azelf cuz flinch

But

We'll take that

[karmic willow]

Nobody cooked teams for petey

He's... Odd

[tender horizon]

Naomi has a duo

But no theme skills

Im probably dumping petey with 2/5 nc bede

[karmic willow]

Bp val

Oh boy

@sturdy steeple oh yeah you didn't use them last time i recall

[dawn plume]

petey/kiawe on cobalion

but i rather put kiawe on registeel

[tender horizon]

True

Kiawe Ss brock can duo regi

[dawn plume]

god not that again

[dawn plume]

oh yeah i got ryuki to 3/5 while getting shafted by arc cynthia

3 shell traps just delete coba right

[karmic willow]

Honestly i am considering bp valerie instead

At least her speed is good

By like, +20

Innate vigi allows me to get mgr2

[tender horizon]

Ok i shall do tht too

[karmic willow]

Like

She deals more decent damage

Unless it's moltress

I have always used brock as a pure flincher

[lost juniper]

https://youtu.be/9Fm4QoodOqY

Lowered MC & Raikou to 3/5 +2E

[dawn plume]

gigachad tiger

[dawn plume]

sleepers to azelf right

COULD make sleep teams work on the other two but their eventual immunity makes me not wanna bother

just make my life easier

[kind imp]

og serena solos/duos coba with meatshield iirc

[dawn plume]

i’ll still do like elio and korrina on registeel cuz that one is free

serena on coba too yeah

i’ve done that one before

its a bit rng if coba wakes up too early but its simple if not

[shy sinew]

wait Korrina fixes Elio’s accuracy problems?

[dawn plume]

oh no

korrina just shreds bar 3

[shy sinew]

it’s just damage then?

[dawn plume]

yeah

[shy sinew]

hm interesting

[dawn plume]

and elio has debuffs

[shy sinew]

I had Elio slotted with Lillie but also saw that my 1/5 Argenta could fix him if I didn’t value my sanity

but Elio Korrina probably makes more sense

[dawn plume]

RAHHHHH i have so much overlap between my old azelf teams and my old registeel teams

why did they do this

[blissful rose]

So what's the priority among the three?
Registeel > Cobalion > Azelf?

[dawn plume]

cobalion is more restrictive i feel

you can use lucky skills to beat the other two’s gimmicks

azelf is scary though i don’t wanna underestimate it

[blissful rose]

Cobalion has more options for status tho, so I wouldn't say it's restrictive.

[dawn plume]

there are a lot of status options

but it is finite

[kind imp]

Ik there's some solos that can bruteforce with attack debuffs+stoic too

Since his only special move is swift once

And he has mitigation 3 for attack

But idk duos that do that

[blissful rose]

While status is finite, there's an abundance of them plus PB units to bypass them easily. (Plus brute force options as well.)

I'm more worried between Registeel and Azelf instead given a lot of teams overlapped as both can use the flinchers and sleepers.

[dawn plume]

they both want impervious bad…

its annoying

really dumb they overlapped these two

almost as bad as if they overlapped cobalion and uxie or something

[stuck mantle]

This eggs psyduck and horsea

Wat are best tech/ sup?

[errant plume]

Close enough

[blissful rose]

We probably won't see streaks that high anymore huh

[rocky oasis]

tech hypno is a sleeper. enough said. tech duck is Trapper / gauge battery and support duck is +6 spatk

[inner turret]

yup

very easy

[blissful rose]

I did Serena/Rapidash Support. Probably the cheapest you can go for the duo.

[rocky oasis]

oh tech hypno is a 2 bar move user

oof

worse than exeggutor. better than venu

[stuck mantle]

Ok

[pearl beacon]

Aggravation triggering

[karmic willow]

not gonna lie

relooking at this

i'm a bit certain that

we, the community in general, might get it this time

in here maybe Elek and Quaggles might stand a chance

i certainly can't lmfao. Not enough pairs

This rotation is certainly giving me a headache

@sturdy steeple real talk

Should I aim for Lodge Dawn solo Registeel or just duo with smth on Azelf?

a lot of pairs rn are a bit undecided fr

also it's so nice i got marlon + Ss serena on azelf again

marlon + Lodge rosa on Registeel is a bit painful fr

low ahh speed

[river cliff]

I'm unsure where to put jasmine since her new crit buffs make most of her old partners suboptimal

[karmic willow]

I know right

new tactics are born

but

somewhat the same

you still need something that can either flinch

live long enough

or self heal

[river cliff]

Hm Roark could be kind of interesting

[karmic willow]

roark

that's...

actually not bad

he does cover the speed portion

however, it's hard to see him in any comps

maybe jasmine + roark vs azelf

but he is quite volatile outside of nuke

first you'd need to nuke past half bar

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/3800/40900?s=5&l=140&r=3&p=0&a=17010201&g=AAECAwQFBgkKCw0PHyEiIw

wanna invest 2 energy in roark?

problem with that comp is that

i do not realisitcally see Jasmine making it out

even with wise 2

the nuke might tickle her but the barrage of sp.atk moves is

rough

[dawn plume]

jasmine should run wise entry always i feel

[kind imp]

I have speedy, wise and vigi on mine

[karmic willow]

same

[karmic willow]

still

i'd like to see someone pull this off

otherwise he'd be a sleep chain fodder

[sturdy steeple]

It's really gonna depend

That's gonna be my answer a lot for this LG

Often you'll just have to make a choice as to where a certain unit will go

[karmic willow]

yeah

well

for as far as possible

perhaps solos are the way to go

also i am somewhat against certain solos like

the sheer investment and commitment for pal mallow makes me want to just add a secondary and call it a day

like easy pal Mallow + viola on azelf

@sturdy steeple real talk though, mix blue on steel or coba?

a 100% debuffer vs good damage

i feel like i might

be underestimating coba

[lost juniper]

Do the solo on Coba

[karmic willow]

wait he can do that?

i call it cap

[lost juniper]

https://youtu.be/3r2wimFuK-w

[sturdy steeple]

P mallow can go with like any damage dealer

[karmic willow]

still pissed about

not having variety sawyer 😦

-1 clear

[karmic willow]

oh man relying on 10% burn

[sturdy steeple]

Praying I get another Sawyer on a daily so I can candy him

[karmic willow]

you got both?

[lost juniper]

Yeah it's like Leon clear on steroids

[sturdy steeple]

I did luckily get both ,, at 1/5 tho

[karmic willow]

yooo congrats

another fodder

[sturdy steeple]

Can't miss out on a support

[karmic willow]

so true

[sturdy steeple]

(sorry Trevor but I can miss out on you

[karmic willow]

which is why this one particularly hits for me cuz

i invested paid gems this time

0 luck...

how do you lose the 50 50 twice ToT

[karmic willow]

oh yeah malva is gonna be tough

another unit that i hope i can get from iono banner

definitely pulling for the streamer ehe

[lost juniper]

For me it's probably Froslass

Finally a great froslass unit

[karmic willow]

yeah

i mean i like shauntal too

even ex'd her

she's such a cutie but mannnnnnnnnnnn

0 gems i die

[lost juniper]

Iono is much more gimmicky

[karmic willow]

true

[sturdy steeple]

They're both pretty "gimmicky"

[lost juniper]

I prefer Shauntal even though both of their looks slap

[karmic willow]

also

[lost juniper]

Yeah but Shauntal's gimmick is more fun

[sturdy steeple]

Yes Omni debuffs are awesome

[lost juniper]

Besides she's a Moltres counter

[karmic willow]

@sturdy steeple i'm guessing grimsley is better on azelf? or registeel?

grimsley is so weird

[sturdy steeple]

I dunno yet

[karmic willow]

on registeel he is legit tanky

[sturdy steeple]

Mine isn't even ex

[lost juniper]

Base should be on Azelf I think

[karmic willow]

and uh, lithe so no body slam shinnanigans

[lost juniper]

He can't steal accurcy on steel