Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)

[stuck mantle]

And he need get hopa

So maybe he apear soon

[inner turret]

there's no reason for paulo to get hoopa nowadays

[stuck mantle]

Arc would be ok if not same units like befor

Something new:)

[karmic willow]

yeah

imagine

arc red and charizard again

i would be rolling

either that for leon for fire

[rocky oasis]

ew

we def dont have enough champions for 17-18 arc suits

i assume the MC is getting one bc reasons

i can see lear getting one too i guess

a flying arc cynthia w/ togekiss? i wouldve rolled for that

[karmic willow]

rolling here is more like

ROFL kind of roll

not the gacha one

but IF it is Arc Rosa though

Then god bless my wallet cuz I am gonna get her to 5/5 no matter what

[karmic willow]

imagine MC Arceus and it somehow cannot solo all 14

[stuck mantle]

No ex🤣

[dawn plume]

legend plate incoming

[karmic willow]

so real

[rocky oasis]

my 20/20 cobalion and regirock are painful

[karmic willow]

i wish next year

we can ex all of them

screw that, 5.5 anniversary too

I need more ex supports

it's always them

[river cliff]

Ex torchic would be nice

[karmic willow]

man

ss giovanni is really boring huh

[river cliff]

Unga bunga damage dealer

[karmic willow]

yeah

i would regret it so much if i ended up not using him for HSE

XD

cuz if i didn't then my pick would have been Rose

that weather swap is gonna be great against terrak and moltres in the future, even at 1/5

[river cliff]

I didn't find it particularly useful

[karmic willow]

it did enable a few pairs

andddd he sucks on the rankings

i guess having a role cake doesn't change a lot

[river cliff]

It made his cheap bulu duos more consistent

[tender horizon]

Give all the former champions arc as well

Nemona, mustard, Juan

[chrome halo]

[rocky oasis]

i want to ex the thunder cat damnit

[river cliff]

Mesprit would like it a lot too

[tender horizon]

@inner turret in the end i bought Brycen Man over SC Steven

[inner turret]

[chrome halo]

Brycen is funny tho

[karmic willow]

rip Damage challenge

meanwhile

[tender horizon]

Im pog

[karmic willow]

yeah

[tender horizon]

Aint pulling for some shiny upscaled Stoutland

[karmic willow]

at least it's a neat choice

you get an exclusive title

Brycen Man fan

meanwhile i regret picking

ss gio

XD

but hey, you make mistakes

[tender horizon]

I got ss gio from mix scout like half a year ago

[karmic willow]

good for you

[tender horizon]

Hes boring

[karmic willow]

i got 2 spotlights back to back

[tender horizon]

I wud rather get holiday siebold than him

[karmic willow]

in the most recent mix scout

smh

[tender horizon]

But his dmax nuke is fine

Tmr i get to pull Rika and battle tower leon

[crimson stratus]

My first 900 gems in mix leaf run and got no 5 stars

I have 250 paid gems left

[karmic willow]

huh

[tender horizon]

Thats normal

[crimson stratus]

I candied rika to 3/5 and selected bt leon before the banner

[tender horizon]

Triple banner coming for HS

[hallow gull]

I really want some copy for Leon or Rika from that banner

[crimson stratus]

Pulling on that banner was not on my radar, but I somewhat regret not pulling it

[vale garden]

What makes Variety Thorton good?

Like if I have 1/5 Thorton
How much investment do I need to put in him and why

[lost juniper]

He's very good with 3/5 because of flinch and free moves when hitting restrained targets

[vale garden]

Hmm

Flinch machine then

[tender horizon]

hmm

i had him 2/5 for some time just because mix gave me a 2nd copy, it was still nice

but it's either 1/5 or 3/5 basically

[vale garden]

That's what i understood too

[tender horizon]

he does well on Tornadus at 1/5 or 2/5 (i forgot what i did) as a duo with Lucy

[karmic willow]

he does a lot of things

For LG

Para for Torn

Sp.Def debuff for steel

Steel damage for rock

restrain for uxie

Flinch for whenever you need it

basically

An enabler

[river cliff]

Swiss army knife the unit

Someday he'll beat cres and moltres

[karmic willow]

Cress maybe

[shy notch]

Both would be flinch lock hell. He can’t let Cress use double team at all

[tender horizon]

Rednhoho would do it eventually

only for that to be the only time it has been done

[gleaming cypress]

he makes clears look so easy

when in reality he may have been resetting potion mpr for hours

wish I had his dedication

[tender horizon]

today i realised for the first time

that Brendan doesnt need Dauntless

cus theres this Brainy Rush node on his grid

[tender horizon]

its both dedication plus a vacuum amount of free time

[kind imp]

If you only sync with Brendan in 3v3 maybe but idk

The first leaf storm has 6 sp.atk then 4, 2

1,8 1,6 and 1,4 boost

[karmic willow]

in 3v3 maybe

[kind imp]

Or 1,6 average instead of 1,8 average
But idk what this 3v3 would be, maybe HS?
His nuke should take care of on type cs

[river cliff]

Syncing with 0 sp atk boosts doesn't seem great

[kind imp]

His sync is physical

[tender horizon]

well his sync is physivcal

[river cliff]

True...

[dawn plume]

i accidentally hit request edit access on mobile on the solos sheet

i feel like it should at least ask would you like to contact the owner of the document to request access rather than just. immediately sending an email

[inner turret]

Ah that's you

omw to leak your mail

I keep receiving mails of people clicking edit on the different docs, it's annoying

[heavy sinew]

Sabotage

[inner turret]

imo if I delete all my docs I can't receive any mails anymore

that's a genious idea actually lemme do that-

[tender horizon]

auto to trash

[lost juniper]

Decided to get Poppy from the select after all. Hope she serves me well

[wise raven]

I'm still debating if she's worth or not when uninvested at a glance her solos are at 5/5

[lost juniper]

She still hits hard with her bonk hammer. I think 3/5 is enough for duos cause she supports her gauge, unlike Rose who require 5/5

[wise raven]

Oh okay

[worthy horizon]

uninvested she's still not lacking in potential damage output but definitely wants a lot of gauge support, doesn't have much for survivability but doesn't need to live very long either

3/5 just makes gauge management way easier with charging infliction

[lost juniper]

She's also probably best for steel 3v3 now, unless Gloria is still better

[worthy horizon]

seems like an easy duo

[chrome halo]

Gloria is still the best afaik

[worthy horizon]

support seadra for pseudo-theme

stoic ls

[chrome halo]

Lance got the funniest lodge kit

[worthy horizon]

it's a little awkward but i find it interesting

also running tm mpr on him seems like a mistake, i'd rather just run non-max spa

[heavy sinew]

ex lance?

[worthy horizon]

which a lot of people seem to expect to want to do when they mention him

ex yea

non-ex should be very doable as well

[lost juniper]

Well, still worth getting her I guess

[worthy horizon]

forgot where steel peaked but poppy got 2.8m from elek

[dawn plume]

steel 3v1 tomorrow ironically enough

colress time

[worthy horizon]

i had 2/5 colress but managed to get 4 copies off tickets

definitely was concerned about not getting any but i got lucky

[worthy horizon]

found a setup for bulu that only used 2 potions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-YI1MTSAag

also cobalion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ_KMtNhsAI

bulu is actually quite a bit harder

[river cliff]

I wonder if running him with Quaxly to get his rain stuff could get him some other clears

If we get the the lg9 trio we're going to have an excess of rain setters since a lot of the water types can either solo entei or don't need rain

[chrome halo]

Plot twist: Raikou replaces Entei in the next rotation

[river cliff]

I would have to completely rework my planning sheet

But it would be a lot more interesting

[chrome halo]

Tbh i don't want Raikou to join the LG9 rerun, the lineup is already good in terms of gimmick spread and difficulties

[river cliff]

Having all three stages be heavy defense debuffers does make things a little awkward

Though rolling lithe on a ton of pairs doesn't sound fun

[sturdy steeple]

i do hate lineups like this a lot

[worthy horizon]

ideally lodge lance gets defenses so he can tank a bunch of hits and get freevenge procs every time, speed buffer is just cheaper

he does have real damage output on his own though for sure

without needing a second damage dealer

drake would be a decent option but in rotations with cobalion or tornadus or uxie it's a bit of a waste of a paralyzer and it takes away from cyrus's options

support quaxly i haven't tried and don't want to since i have that attached to ss lysandre now

if we get entei i could downgrade quaxly though

[stuck mantle]

So lodge lance just him dont have any defence buffs?

[worthy horizon]

none, no

[stuck mantle]

Jesus wat a support🙂‍↔️

Im get him in 3-4 days so not check his grid eh

[river cliff]

The biggest perk is that you can be less reliant on potion mprs since you can take advantage of refreshing rain and rain gear since they're all right by hostile environment

I do wonder if he has any good uxie partners

[stuck mantle]

He good in rain? May and swampert .? Dahlia but rain one use

[river cliff]

Tech blastoise could be interesting

[stuck mantle]

Lol tech blast and him for uxie? Hmm sound hard

[worthy horizon]

he has 3 rain passives but no offensive benefit from rain since no water moves

refreshing rain, racing rain, and rain gear

and yea he's basically the least traditional support so i think it's important to figure this stuff out ahead of time

[river cliff]

I suppose you could save rain uses to help him tank sure crit bar openings with rain gear + refreshing rain

You'd probably have to run fast track on him if using blastoise

[worthy horizon]

that is important yea

fast track is probably the one ls he wants the most even though i didn't use it in either of those two duos

[river cliff]

For sure, you either run defense buffer + ft2 or speed buffer + stoic in most cases methinks

Being fairy weak hurts a bit for those dazzling gleams tho

[worthy horizon]

i don't think stoic actually works for anything other than cobalion, cs2 turned out to be better on bulu since you can just rush through with endurance

well regirock would also be physically based enough

but everything else you'd need spdef too

so you can't get away with just speed buffer i think

i think flying guard could work enough for tornadus but i got too lazy to roll it

i actually had it as the first thing i tried when attempting the solo but nothing was happening without ft2

he can get out of bar 1 but it's hard to do much more

[river cliff]

A duo with Lisia on Latias could be interesting since he wouldn't have to worry as much about his defenses there

[worthy horizon]

yeah kiawe might be the more flexible one so that could help free that slot

would be very different though as tl lance wouldn't provide any debuffs without dc2/mg2 ls

and kiawe has innate def debuffs and unfortuitous

[river cliff]

Yeah you'd probably have to run mg2 on one and ft2 on the other, which could make bar 3 dicey

Sabrina can get away with it with a more gauge heavy move though so it might not be too bad

[tender horizon]

[vital ibex]

based

[tender horizon]

Wht am i doing with thiz

Rika didmt come home 🥺

Gonna need to pity eventually, now gathering gems

[karmic willow]

someone pin this

@night blaze perhaps

[blissful rose]

Who besides Gladion is the prime candidate to 3/5 from the DC pool for gauntlet?

[chrome halo]

Silver

[tender horizon]

Or Wally

[blissful rose]

I'm thinking Hugh or Wally atm as they seem to do more compared to others at 3/5.

[shy sinew]

I’m in the middle of Wally at the moment because I thought I might use him for HSE in case, I hadn’t planned out my teams until just now but once I get him 3/5 I’m definitely switching over to Silver next

[dawn plume]

imma just hold tickets for next lg

i have silver and gladion 2/5

for all i know dc barry ends up being cracked beyond belief but needs 3/5

[tender horizon]

No

Next one shall be ummmmmm

ummmmmmmmmm

leme see

oh ye i want Bianca and Chandelure

wait DC Barry gonna be with staraptor? theres alrdy two flying DC units so that means staraptor is gonna be a Normal Sprint or Normal Field

[rotund rain]

DC Barry could also be with Floatzel

[tender horizon]

i thought they were only using the pairs featured in the DC challenge

[rotund rain]

Barry actually has 3 stages

[tender horizon]

Oh WTF

[rotund rain]

and there is a Grass-Weak one where he uses Floatzel

[inner turret]

trevor didnt release in time lol

they were lacking 1 rival

[lost juniper]

Poor Trevor

[lost juniper]

Barry had two stages and neither were aoe so

[tender horizon]

Barry - Staraptor/ Floatzel --> water sprint
Cheren - Gigalith/ Liepard --> dark sprint (assuming no 3rd rock units)
N - Archeops --> rock sprint
Shauna - Silveon/ Goodra --> dragon field
Tierno - Talonflame --> fire field
Hau - Crabominable --> ice sprint
Bede - Mawile/ Rapidash --> fairy sprint
Hop - Corviknight/ Dubwool --> normal field

[dawn plume]

cheren getting a liepard would be so weird

he already has purrloin from lodge

[tender horizon]

still different

[inner turret]

hop has to be normal field

he HAS to be

#character-concept-crafting message

[tender horizon]

ye it makes sense that Hop is Normal Field so that Barry is Water Sprint

[dawn plume]

floatzel as water sprint makes sense

[inner turret]

the problem tho

there are 16 rivals in this gamemode, that's not even 1 per type

and worse, we got 2 flying already

[tender horizon]

who said theyre gonna do all the types

[dawn plume]

i mean they could just do more than 2 per type, would prefer if they didnt but could happen

[tender horizon]

but i see the possibility of them swapping out some rivals in the next rotation to spice things up

[inner turret]

assuming there's a next rotation

and not the exact same thing again

[dawn plume]

considering the score log exists i dont think they would swap out stages

[inner turret]

yeah

[tender horizon]

adding two Normal weak stakes with Trevor

Trevor and Unown

[kind imp]

Gen 6 has inverse battles, trevor could do that

[tender horizon]

Trevor and Unown
Trevor and Arcanine with the ??? type

[kind imp]

or give a stage type guard that works for synca for all types except normal

Or make it constantly change weakness mid battle

[inner turret]

my life for a normal focused dc

(i wont be that good because i dont have 5/5 palmer and larry)

[tender horizon]

ye i mean if DeNA wanted to do it, they can program it easily

afterall this is a pokemon game where all flying types die from ground type attacks and ghosts die from normal type attacks

[rocky oasis]

i mean they already have that lusa EBE where she changes forms

[pearl beacon]

We got a freaking normal zone
No way they can't make a normal only stage

[inner turret]

we got the zone and the rebuff dena please

larry even enables sleep spam

[pearl beacon]

True
Units ✅, Setup ✅
We just need that damn stage
Let's wait, I believe they'll take one week after the current DC shedule ends to drop triple and single normal

And ex Whitney

[inner turret]

[sturdy steeple]

in due time...

[heavy sinew]

Waiting for Ex flannery

[sturdy steeple]

winter flannery incoming

[heavy sinew]

Give her the gardenia treatment

[river cliff]

Competing field effects

[heavy sinew]

I mean the outfit

[karmic willow]

eyyy new pfp

is that a big chicken or wut

[sturdy steeple]

burger

[heavy sinew]

hambuger

[dawn plume]

[sturdy steeple]

fun fact i requested that emote when the original artist was drawing em all

[karmic willow]

borgar

[lost juniper]

This was everyone in this channel when Palentines Bea dropped

[tender horizon]

this channel as in we were admiring her infinite hail?

[lost juniper]

Yup

Besides she's so cute with this outfit

[tender horizon]

Oh

When she released i was so pissed

I was like Dena wtf you doing with this Galar favoritism and this stupid sync pair idea

Now im fine with it

[dawn plume]

i selected pal marnie over her way back then now i feel dumb cuz pal marnie is so dated

theres a f2p steel zone setter better than her

[inner turret]

I wouldnt say better, more different

lillie only has her zone twice, marnie has many times as she wants provided you get mpr

[dawn plume]

haha my marnie is 2/5

[lost juniper]

Marnie is still good. She's a 60% flincher with a good nukes and debuffs

[vital ibex]

maybe i should record these max investment runs

5/5 exr +10e

(for the funsies)

[dawn plume]

oh yeah that happened

[vital ibex]

goated

i feel like now he has exr raihan could get registeel

might try it later

[dawn plume]

i was confused why alt leon got sprint then i remembered dragapult has base 142 speed

[inner turret]

he's a tech with power play innate

of course he got sprint

[vital ibex]

shhh. shhhh don't say that

you're not invited to my anni n birthday party

[heavy sinew]

should've gotten field

[dawn plume]

he fast in this game too

neat

[inner turret]

right i want anni n to have field

[vital ibex]

i would take field or strike for him

low ass atk

[inner turret]

he wants strike so bad

[vital ibex]

but dena would never 💔

[inner turret]

sprint is more atk not field

[dawn plume]

i have become speed

[inner turret]

lmao

[vital ibex]

damn almost 600

past 600 with grid and gear

[inner turret]

bro barely is over
but still over

[tender horizon]

Sounds like a lot of other units

but she does shred attack and defense easily

and she held a record as steel nuker for some time

[lost juniper]

I'm surprised Rafa didn't do these yet given he's probably the biggest Raihan fan I know of

[lost juniper]

And a zone unit too. She's pretty good all things considered. She is pretty slow though

[tender horizon]

well theres many steel zone setters nowadays

and many more to come

[dawn plume]

no zone has only 1 setter now

thanks to field role

flying zone only had 1 for the longest time but now has 3

1 of which is f2p

[vital ibex]

we got an ultimate battle and high score today

i think there are bigger things to be doing than la solos lol

[dawn plume]

i havent started hse i dont want to

[vital ibex]

real me neither

my ground roster is atrocious

but yea if he doesnt beat me to the 5/5 exrs i'll do the ones i can and upload them later tonight

[dawn plume]

my ground roster is good its my dragon roster that sucks

[vital ibex]

if i remember

[dawn plume]

i have 7 supports between the two types

[raven crane]

And two of them are stinky and one of them is pretty.

[inner turret]

don't forget about dc!

[dawn plume]

HEY! silver got that pretty boy energy

[raven crane]

One of them is pretty and two of them aren't Skyla.

[dawn plume]

AND ONE OF THEM IS LODGE LANCE

[raven crane]

Honestly, there are far worse picks then Lodge Lance.

At least he has Midpoint Mend, Endurance and Potions...

[vital ibex]

and dc

wow what a busy reset

yet somehow still so little gems

[worthy horizon]

yeah i wanted to make sure lodge lance had a record of accomplishing something at the least lol

beyond latios solo

[true tartan]

where are the new solos for Raihan...

[lost juniper]

@ RafaSceptile

[true tartan]

[dawn plume]

only new one i can see happening is registeel

otherwise just max investment some older solos

or maybe can be lowered to like 3 exr now or something

or 2 exr

[vital ibex]

did moltres with exr

gonna just do a big compilation video

and my screen recording failed :’)

[rocky oasis]

rip

[vital ibex]

i just lost a perfectly good run to bar 3 burn

sobbing

[lost juniper]

https://youtu.be/dtkHk3ewrqU?si=ONhUQVdkFVsk-zLG

Saw that nao already added it but oh well

[sturdy steeple]

still awesome

[lost juniper]

I hope to get Leon in a daily from the HSE banner since it'd make it easier to justify candying him

At least now I can use him for Rally

[dawn plume]

will o wisp spam more viable with the monstrous speed stat huh

[inner turret]

DC meta is spreading

wdym LG did it before

[tight rivet]

oh so he did get moltres

[dawn plume]

anni raihan got moltres a long time ago

its just

horrible

[tight rivet]

3/5?

[dawn plume]

oh not at 3/5

[tight rivet]

how long is long ago

[dawn plume]

shortly after his grid expansion

so over a year

[sturdy steeple]

all questions can be answered by looking at the document

[dawn plume]

lmao these stats

606 atk 598 speed

[shy notch]

I was curious about whether it was possible to quad queue after multi sync if Moltres was flinched before half bar. I guess the recuperation 2 passive makes it possible

[lost juniper]

Maybe now Leon would finally get Cress and Regi???

[sturdy steeple]

neat

[dawn plume]

cress maybe regi i doubt

might join c serena in the 12/14 "everything that can be debuffed" club

[lost juniper]

Yeah. But the reason I have some faith in Leon is that unlike Cerena he's a physical attacker (since brutal swing dps sucks for her), and has better chance to skip Bar 2. Also Impervious to block debuffs from Regi, so Leon can run stoic

[lost juniper]

3/5 EX R?

[dawn plume]

wow i havent been keeping up klara is 12/14 now??

[shy notch]

Yep

[lost juniper]

Driving them Kla-razy

[dawn plume]

the b move that heals special

arven is familiar with this

[shy notch]

Has anyone with 5/5 Arven tried Torn? Does anyone even have 5/5 Arven?

[dawn plume]

adam tried

he takes too much damage on bar 1

from the rain hurricanes

since bar 1 has physical damage reduction he cant get past it quick enough

[shy notch]

Rip

[lost juniper]

Maybe with better gear he could?

[vital ibex]

i beat moltres with exr raihan again. and my recording failed. again

why does it save every other run except my winning one 😭

time to go through rng hell for a third time! hooray!

and thats my game crashing in the middle of another good run

i think im done for today 💀

[true tartan]

at least the run seems consistent

[vital ibex]

somewhat, still dodge and flinch reliant

but you only need one sandstorm mpr

since you can pass half bar 2

(idk if he could before but yea)

[vital ibex]

got the run recorded

finally

[karmic willow]

dewit

[vital ibex]

i am

got 5/8 down

once i get all of them i might try my hand at registeel

[river cliff]

I'm surprised he hasn't already gotten registeel

[true tartan]

[dawn plume]

i wonder what ls is best for registeel

fast track? def crush? stoic?

[heavy sinew]

i think stoic is the play

[vital ibex]

i was gonna try mind games

just flinch lol

[shy notch]

I don’t think his gauge is good enough without fast track. At least with Moltres he has atmospheric acceleration

[dawn plume]

mind games shouldnt be needed he has mind boggler

i assumed that would be run

he is stuck running +2 crit here though... i'm not sure

wish mind boggler was in a better spot lol

maybe he doesnt need sand mpr and you just save it for sync

[vital ibex]

i was gonna skip it since its in a kinda bad spot lol

but daze might be right in speed being a problem lol

[dawn plume]

maybe

gotta save sand and sun for when you know the sync will take out bars ??

[bitter gate]

Oh yeah, malva comes out tmr doesn't she

[dawn plume]

not this reset but next

shes interesting but i wish she had flame wheel instead of flame charge

flame charge animation is so slow

she really needs 3/5 to be useful

ok so apparently talonflame cant learn flame wheel

[bitter gate]

She also needs +4E for most of her solos probably

[dawn plume]

if theres evasion and flinch theres a way

dont think she’ll have a lot though

[chrome halo]

it's both funny and sad that the final evolution is worse than its pre evolve in terms of LG soloing

[bitter gate]

She might be better elsewhere

Also she has aoe crit and speed fsr

They wanted her to be some supportive tool

[dawn plume]

she might be good for single target dc tbh

sprint + tech gets more strong syncs faster

thats about all i can think of tho

[bitter gate]

She has AD gap yes

And fast syncs

I feel if she had something like sync quickening she'd have a niche

[dawn plume]

i feel like that’d be really strong for a gen pool lol

[chrome halo]

excuse me she has no MPR on Quick Attack???

[bitter gate]

Yeah

Because reliable constant -1

Would be pretty dumb

Like if she had sync quickening 3 like Gloria or something

It'd be quite good

[chrome halo]

even sync quickening 1 is enough for me

[heavy sinew]

they made her so bad

pain

at least talonflame is decent in unite

[chrome halo]

it hurts for me

Talonflame is my favorite pokemon

[heavy sinew]

talon goated

i found appreciation for talon when playing unite, carried me in the early days

if only it had a mega

[chrome halo]

*if only more Kalos pokemon had mega

[heavy sinew]

time to wait a week until i get another multi for cynthia

(she hasnt been nice to me)

[true tartan]

:T

Malva's performance is not hard to picture... as she is, somehow, a bit worse than Lodge Serena lol

[heavy sinew]

pre-evo being better than full-evo

only in poma

[true tartan]

looks at Eevee and Pikachu

[kind imp]

pikachu>raichu>pichu

[heavy sinew]

is there even a pichu pair (not egg)

all ik is pika and raichu

[kind imp]

no, just the egg

[chrome halo]

yamper>zamazenta

[true tartan]

eggmon

[heavy sinew]

real

[true tartan]

Togepi being better than Togetic and Togekiss too

[heavy sinew]

aside from eggmon; still, its interesting

[chrome halo]

Quite shocking that Pichu hasnt been given a proper alt

[true tartan]

Gastly having more solos than Gengars...

[chrome halo]

It is very popular

[true tartan]

and Haunter lol

[kind imp]

is summer lyra better than egg iggly/wigglytuff?

[heavy sinew]

it can sleep so its good

[true tartan]

she can sleep Cresselia at bar 3 lol

even when she shouldn't be able to

[heavy sinew]

waiting for another jigglypuff pair

https://tenor.com/view/hungrbox-pizza-fast-gif-21948387

[chrome halo]

Arc Suit Lyra & Jigglypuff

[sturdy steeple]

Only thing saving her for me

[bitter gate]

Like she seems like a nice duo pair, but not so much for solos relative to Serena

Serena mostly has screen/healing, even though Malva's statline is actually a lot better

[true tartan]

a problem is that Malva requires to get a 7 or 9 energy tile

to reach unfort 9 and/or cakewalk

[sturdy steeple]

Yeah her grid is so expensive

[true tartan]

while Serena can just get it through a Peck power up

[bitter gate]

Yeah her grid sucks

[true tartan]

Serena having Staggering 2 from base... while Malva needs to pick it up in the grid...

at best

nope, nothing...

[bitter gate]

She has a slightly better Cob matchup? ish?

Also fwiw her Unforf is guaranteed

[true tartan]

I was going to see if she had 2 TM uses

[bitter gate]

rather than a coinflip

[true tartan]

but nope, so she can't max her stuff lol

[bitter gate]

She has to MPR

and play with +4 eva

unless you want to do the Anabel route

[true tartan]

she can max it if anything

[bitter gate]

and fish for double MPR

[true tartan]

at least, thanks to MGA

[bitter gate]

she can, yes

if you want to fish

her main draws are hits harder, has faster early rotations that slow down due to animation speed

regen kinda also slows down Serena a bit, but that's more of a different call

and guaranteed unforf

[true tartan]

no kind of healing

and she'll have to possibly leave cakewalk out sadly

[bitter gate]

yeah, she's not build for solos if all the aoe support is an indicator

unless you +10 E or something yeah

[true tartan]

not even extra energy helps

to grab all haha...

[bitter gate]

yeah

[bitter gate]

you have to sack Slippery or something

the poor girl

idt slippery is too important in some places anyway no, but yeah, her attack means she still hits hard enough if she wants

[true tartan]

you can always tradeoff slippery

[bitter gate]

latios/bulu/raikou is probably comfortable for her?

[true tartan]

and fish for acc drops

[bitter gate]

Cobalion also

azelf I think also isn't a stretch

Azelf, Entei, Latias and Uxie are question marks

[chrome halo]

Is Latias out of reach?

[bitter gate]

but I think they're doable

Latias is probably fine but

[true tartan]

many are doable

[chrome halo]

Yeah, with great rng

[bitter gate]

dodge simulator

[true tartan]

all is just "don't get hit"

[bitter gate]

again her early rotation is fast because of sprint + ramp

well, she can get hit a bit, just not a lot

Registeel as well

[true tartan]

and she can go for perma flinch

or well, attempt

thanks to sure-fire skills

[bitter gate]

I actually do wonder if Malva has a better Cress matchup

because she can tech natural remedy and stuff

[true tartan]

someone will attempt hard enough

but flame charge is slow (full speed post-effect has that penalty similar to DC)

and QA is limited with no means of recovery, sadly

[bitter gate]

yeah it feels like it's possible for her to replicate Serena solos outside of Terrakion

just that her solos will be a lot more RNG

lol

I do think she'll get at least five first

It's Azelf/Uxie/Latias I'm skeptical about

and even then idt they're that bad either

[true tartan]

lol

[bitter gate]

well, uxie and azelf anyway

[true tartan]

don't doubt on Azelf

that one is literally, perma flinch

[bitter gate]

Azelf is literally dodge/stun

lol

after the first bar idt it's that bad?

[true tartan]

get to sync

[bitter gate]

idk

[true tartan]

nuke bar 1

and you're somewhat safe lol

[bitter gate]

Registeel might get done before that

The Roxie solo was insane tho

like, relying on propulsion MPR to blitz it, lmao

[true tartan]

Roxie?

[bitter gate]

didn't snow do SS Roxie

against Azelf

or was it uxie

[true tartan]

yeah, against Azelf

but since you mentioned Registeel

[bitter gate]

he did May as well with the same propulsion blitz strat

ye, mb

but yeah, the only thing I see Malva being hard gapped by

that Serena can do

is Terrakion

the rest is just a patience check, lol

[true tartan]

depends on how fast she can rush them

as she has no healing

[bitter gate]

yeah, she has to rush + stun/dodge

and get some good unforf rolls

[true tartan]

even with good dodges, she can't heal and syncs are sure hit

[bitter gate]

ye

her statline itself isn't that bad

[true tartan]

many have sure-hit on changes and so on

[bitter gate]

when invested

maybe luri will try her solos

since she's a kalos fan

[true tartan]

I know she's a Diantha fan

dunno if a Kalos one

[bitter gate]

I briefly recall some twitter post mentioning she is, could be wrong ofc

[true tartan]

her solos are with many units, so can't really draw a pattern lol

[bitter gate]

well, she's a whale

not a cyi level whale but

reasonably will take anything, especially if its LG inclined

• it's very simple to at least get the base copy

though idt she'll outright invest

unless her singles get lucky

maybe tosakinto will do it, he simps for kalos more than anybody

[true tartan]

I'll just wait for Sages to do all solos with Chuck

wonder how are gommy Raihan solos are going

[worthy horizon]

that is quite a bit of faith people have in malva

i think raikou is enough to be a stretch

no healing, no defenses, very slow debuffs

[tender horizon]

I got 3/5 ss morty and 3/5 H jasmine from mix, 2 support candies saved

[tender horizon]

I realised a thing

These Trainer Lodge units are really useless for everyone except us LG players and maybe new players

[gleaming cypress]

holy shit units you can get for free are useless? I couldn’t have guessed

well LG fodder is LG fodder. you could say the same for BP units too

[worthy horizon]

only ones i end up using outside of gauntlet are lodge skyla and lodge gladion really

[worthy horizon]

it is a good thing to have some things be intentionally less effective but i wouldn't know how to actually explain that

like challenges are a good thing and worse stuff gives you more ways to make decent challenges

[pearl beacon]

We are excited/debating for eggmons
Others can't comprehend

Literally converting junk into

[tender horizon]

BP valerie is my staple cus i didnt pull ss wally ss gladion or nemona

[tender horizon]

The other day i found that Lodge Skyla cud be as good as Summer Liza in DC

[dawn plume]

lol sc hilda gotta be the most random thing i have gotten from mix scout

i dont even remember what she does

[chrome halo]

She looks pretty

That's it

[dawn plume]

we love filler pairs

[inner turret]

she is a rock dps

that's it

and not a good one lol

[gleaming cypress]

SC pairs feel kinda forgettable

especially the old ones

idk if there’s a pattern for SC releases or not it feels quite random

[lost juniper]

The first ones are hit or miss for me. Diantha and Jasmine are great, but Hilda is just ok and Buzma...

[dawn plume]

diantha or jasmine woulda been nice yeah

a new pair is a new pair tho and thats what mix is for ig

[inner turret]

there is a """pattern"""

1st batch released in november and 2nd april, then sc rosa in september, detectives in april, and dance and super heroes in march-april

so it's what, one group at the start of the year one group at the end, but they can also skip it if they want??

[dawn plume]

safe to assume there will not be sc pairs next month cuz next month is a seasonal month

[inner turret]

yeah if any it's november

[blissful rose]

Next month should be Fall seasonal and Eevee month right?

Wonder which protag gonna get Leafeon and Glaceon if it were to happen.

[chrome halo]

Eevee month is November

[chrome halo]

Unless the seasonal is named Spring no seasonal will be replaced with SC

[blissful rose]

Ooh, so Adaman and Irida probably gonna rerun in November to match the theme.

[chrome halo]

Yeah that's what I'm expecting

Currently saving gems for Adaman

[blissful rose]

Strike EXR for Adaman pls.

[river cliff]

I'm feeling sprint

[chrome halo]

I'm fine with either

But if Irida doesn't get Field i will riot

[river cliff]

I need more tech sprints for rally

[blissful rose]

I feel Irida would get Support instead.

[river cliff]

I only have iris alt atm

[blissful rose]

Grass type still doesn't have a Tech/Strike yet, and Adaman is prime candidate for it.

[river cliff]

Sprint would make a lot of his solos way easier

[karmic willow]

They can solo stuff

Ss red can't solo anything not latios

By that logic ss red is mega trash

[river cliff]

If nothing else the lodge and bp pairs at least give people who don't pull on new pairs something new to play with

Before they were added I'd frequently go months without anyone new

Which also seems to have coincided with the decrease in spotlight scouts

[dawn plume]

i mean…

[sturdy steeple]

There's a lot that are useful for beginners, lance is just one of the worst lodge units ever lol

Hell one of the worst supports ever

[river cliff]

But he is funny

[sturdy steeple]

beaming of the hyper variant

[chrome halo]

If you don't have:

• hyper beam
• self damage TM
• form of healing
  then you are not Lance

[dawn plume]

why tf did that become his thing it has nothing to do with him in the main games

besides hyper beam

[chrome halo]

You have not been through enough to understand that

[dawn plume]

i needed lodge cynthia for the hse cuz i had no more units who could take hits

they have some use in those regards

[lost juniper]

Potions is because he's infamous for using full restores

No idea why self damage

[dawn plume]

with base lance im just gonna guess it was an excuse to give a striker potions

then they decided to just commit to the bit ?

[wise raven]

but MCChu did it first

[sturdy steeple]

self damage to justify those potions in his kit in early masters kit designs

[kind imp]

She has more bp on the regular diamond storm than sync diamond storm rock impact

[inner turret]

mega moment

[dawn plume]

err that is rock impact thank u

[tender horizon]

I wud take a SC Hilda from mix ahah

Shes better than Olivia in terms of dps at least

My only other only representable rock striker is 1/5 classic blue that i got accidentally 2 years ago

[karmic willow]

early masters was truly whack

[gleaming cypress]

I assume random units having impervious as their only passive and power chain on grid are because of that

back then I heard sync buffs cleared all stat raises and coop was actually relevant

[pearl beacon]

Enemy sync cleared your buffs ye

But was quite weird, those passives were never relevant

Everything was so shit that the only good units were Olivia or Brendan

And Phoebe dominance

[dawn plume]

well on steven and mc solgaleo its bc they had clear body and full metal body in main series

so just translate it over

[rocky oasis]

will used to be the auto farming god bc he could eat a sync and keep going

tho ofc i didnt have him back in his heyday so i just used brendan

[river cliff]

I am so glad they implemented the stamina system so that farming isn't mandatory anymore

[shy notch]

Farming type gears is a thing if you’re a new player

[lost juniper]

The one thing I'm thankful for skill gears is that now I don't need to farm 3* gears anymore

[blissful rose]

I wish they overhaul the training area a bit especially the orbs stage.
With the energy expansion, 900 per day without the pass is ridiculous.

[river cliff]

I'm a lot more bothered by how terrible the lucky cookie training area is

Having multiple sources for the sync orbs helps a lot with that, which will be much better once we've had enough time to get all the dc pairs to 5/5 and can start exchanging tickets for sync orbs instead

[rocky oasis]

we will never get them to 5/5 lbr

Being realistic

sooner or later we will run out of DC stages and have to cycle through them again...

gl beating your old record

[stuck mantle]

If this will be case they just stop add new ones

Since will be some limit for it too

And beat record is not hard but issue is get 1 ticket each 50k . So not worth time

[lost juniper]

I'm pretty sure they're gonna still allow you to get the rewards again since there are also people who missed the first time

Like how each new csmm gives you the rewards again when a new week comes

[stuck mantle]

If some one miss can do it since not record in log

But cs is new weaks its why

[lost juniper]

I don't think it matters. CS records your runs and you still get rewards

[stuck mantle]

Hope will be same

[lost juniper]

And I doubt it'll be different

I at least hope so

[pearl beacon]

Cycles will be over
New schedule and so new rewards

[stuck mantle]

Only sync orbs get would be nice cheaper

200 is expensive price

[river cliff]

Still that's around 10k a week on average, which isn't bad

And a lot more whenever we get super sparring

[rocky oasis]

well we def wont be getting the gems again

[river cliff]

Yeah that seems likely

Though it isn't impossible

[tender horizon]

Yes please

[heavy sinew]

I remember back when stamina was introduced the majority of people were fuming at the idea of farming being killed off. Interesting to see how much the notion has changed

[tender horizon]

these DC units are good but not worth candying so i hope they dont expect us to do that

well anyways we get DC tickets every time a super sparring comes up so

[dawn plume]

surely they will let us get tickets again once the cycle resets

it’d be kinda dumb to introduce a new game mode with a farmable resource and keep adding new units to collect with said resource without a means to continuously replenish the resource

[lost juniper]

SC Emmet gaming???

I honestly didn't thought he can reach this far

[inner turret]

I don't think he can go much further

He can drop latios to below half bar 3, but then latios kills you

[lost juniper]

How high of an invesment you have him?

[inner turret]

3 ex +6e

lvl 150, so max max lol

[lost juniper]

Grid?

[lost juniper]

Well there's always 5 EX +10E

If only he had Staltwart mayve you could do it

[inner turret]

if I sync'd at the end, that brings Latios to 50 smth, then I can megahorn to bring him to half, but that's it

I didnt sync because I wanted to see if Salamence would queue first (in which case I can pray for a miss and only then maybe win)

[inner turret]

After thinking more about it, it might be possible but you need to dodge like 4 moves at +0 evasion

pain

[lost juniper]

Can you try farming more syncs? I guess they might not survive but Latios is slow isn't it

Also saw that the stats for Latios were changed??? I don't remember it being with 196 speed

Same for the defenses though that one makes more sense

[worthy horizon]

he is fast on bar 2

prob just didn't see it before

[inner turret]

How do you want me to farm sync buffs lol

each sync does so much damage

you want salamence alive on bar 3 anyway

... since Latios queues first I don't know if it's true anymore tho

[lost juniper]

If Latios queues first you probably would rather kill Salamence

[heavy sinew]

Dodge those rock slides

[inner turret]

[kind imp]

Dejavu

Then 4 days latter

Just had to dodged the draco meteor

Hope you get a lucky datamine too

[inner turret]

lol

[bitter gate]

Where the malva simps at

[true tartan]

dunno

Cobalion just got melted

[bitter gate]

Who dunnit

Oh, ruri

Told ya she'd hard commit

[mint osprey]

https://twitter.com/Luri_Choucho/status/1834126630253719978 Not like anyone here owns her but still

瑠璃垣 (@Luri_Choucho) on X

パキラ エンテイVH単騎

3/5EX（EXロール/パワー上限解放有り）

#LBエンテイ単騎

Twitter · Sep 12, 2024, 7:07 AM

Wait, she's caked too. Damn

[tender horizon]

Nice

[worthy horizon]

takes cobalion down in 3 syncs and entei in 4

bulu should also be 4 but she can't lock bulu down as long in flinch, going to need evasion and i don't think she can bar skip the bar 1 accuracy buffs

latios she needs to sync sides first but she should clean latios with the remaining syncs, so 5 but latios hits like a wet noodle so

raikou may be in a similar position but actually poses an offensive threat and can't be locked in by just flinches while sides are alive

guess it's still something luri in particular could pull off

but hardly a given

[bitter gate]

Rarudo already did it

4 sync kill

Ruri was also trying uxie fsr?

Not promising though

[stuck mantle]

Saw i no chance skipp bar 2

Lurri cooking today

[worthy horizon]

malva has been syncing a lot harder than i thought she could tbf with no need for scorching sync

or unfortuitous even

[bitter gate]

well, she has a very high AD

fwiw

[worthy horizon]

wondering if there's a chance she 4 syncs moltres even though it denies cakewalk and scorching sync

but moltres's hp is a lot higher so there isn't much of a way

could still duo with some weather eggmon to get some speed debuffs on there for cakewalk

also uhhh what does AD mean in this context

(i am going to bed so i won't be able to respond but i'll still see it)

[bitter gate]

I have a very bad habit of referring to the attacking stat (attack or special attack) as AD.

my own personal term. sorry about that.

[tender horizon]

Forgot Bianca and Chandelure - ghost sprint i assume

[bitter gate]

@worthy horizon

https://x.com/Luri_Choucho/status/1834177594939638059/photo/1

瑠璃垣 (@Luri_Choucho) on X

こっちもいけそう　てかほんとに急所バフがあるアポロだな（知ったような口を）

Twitter · Sep 12, 2024, 10:29 AM

"this is literally just Archer with actual crit buffs ain't it"

interestingly enough, no clears actually run Unforf

and just ham dodge and stun luck

[inner turret]

@errant moon it's your time to shine

Do some solos

[tender horizon]

did Tai even pull

[heavy sinew]

Did Tai even play the game?

[dawn plume]

not as good flinch rate as archer but yeah

[heavy sinew]

she can flinch?

[dawn plume]

sprint pairs have this one trick

yes w grid

[heavy sinew]

staggering moment

[inner turret]

She's very similar to lodge serena

[heavy sinew]

but worse

[dawn plume]

LOL

“we forgot to do the easy one!!”

[heavy sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/phineas-and-ferb-wheres-perry-phineas-looking-around-gif-15576106

[dawn plume]

you can probably sack slippery for some of these if you’re willing to fish for stone edge miss from coba or fire spin miss from entei

[tender horizon]

Wheres Malva solo Moltres???

https://tenor.com/view/judge-judy-time-clock-time-is-up-faster-gif-8398209

[tight rivet]

hm yes with her

30% flinch chance

at 3/5

[lost juniper]

No way

Like absolutely no way. Yeah she syncs in sun but how she survives

[dawn plume]

lodge steven unironically has a better chance

both are not happening

i do like how she can rush bar 3s with her quick attacks on arenas with dangerous bar 3s

[dawn plume]

https://youtu.be/HMuEd1OuMV0?si=goGdA4joNHsZuNXe saw this wasnt on your sheet yet @true tartan obligatory latios solo

[heavy sinew]

10% burn

[lost juniper]

I'm surprised she didn't got Bulu yet

I thought evasion solo will cheese it

[dawn plume]

lmao i didnt even see that

good thing she has to go past natural remedy to get to cakewalk anyways

[shy notch]

She did get it

https://youtu.be/UKrT1_n48Mg?si=AFRA60mgRHbfCSBY

[dawn plume]

nice

4 is pretty good for a gen pool but the fact that they all want extra energy and ex role is kinda meh

can maybe lower bulu and latios but i dont see getting past entei or coba without tech exr

[sturdy steeple]

doc updated

[tender horizon]

next is Chuck solo

hes so slow though

i guess no ones trying him then

[worthy horizon]

he can get latios bc latios

can theoretically get more off confusion luck buf that's unrealistic even with bulu's low mitigation

[lost juniper]

Maybe Registeel too

Chuck outright demolishes Registeel with his super effective moves

Bulu is possible too if you have good confusion luck

[tender horizon]

mm

[worthy horizon]

it's so much worse than the riley solo though if registeel is possible

no max move no defenses

if confusion was sufficient to beat bulu, lodge skyla would manage

i tried again recently

it's still very unrealistic

need tons of confusion procs in a row

and that's with ontype

chuck is hardly bulkier

a lot of these theoretical solos require the luck of getting like several lance moltres solos in a row

[lost juniper]

Registeel is probably possible if done like the Riley solo. He even got protect so he can defend against a crit move

He has a lot more damage than Riley too

[worthy horizon]

doesn't really compare to instant wiping bars 2 and 3 and having literally all survivability based on confusion while also having worse gauge and therefore output

basically worse in every way solo-wise

possible he could get through bar 1 a little faster but that's about it

[dawn plume]

i dont think chuck gets solos imma be real

[heavy sinew]

registeel

jk

[dawn plume]

i think he can wreck registeel with anything to take hits/flinch for him

but his gauge is bad

[heavy sinew]

Dynamic punch moment

what about Trevor

I didn't look at his kit do idk

[dawn plume]

he has so much healing

its kinda silly

he will have solos for sure

synthesis, synchro healing, team fist bump 3

hit and heal on tm if you REALLY want it but thats excessive at that point

his entire kit is just healing and sp atk debuffs thats like all he does

[worthy horizon]

very stoic reliant without having defense buffs

latios bulu raikou entei maybe

[rocky oasis]

i can see him getting latias w/ mind games and luck

maybe uxie

actually no

i checked and he's steel weak

[worthy horizon]

latias might not be too ridiculous

i think uxie still would be even without steel weak

[rocky oasis]

i mean ive done some pretty miserable uxie solos

some lunatic is gonna be bored enough to try

[kind imp]

Just dodge the iron tails smh

[toxic kernel]

Just curious, why couldn’t alt Leon do Regirock and cresselia?

Asking this because I see him with arc duo breaks every ultimate battle. I wonder how much more he can do.

[raven crane]

Hello Turquoise.

[toxic kernel]

Woooo salamence

[raven crane]

Sadly, all I have is a simple "hello" and none of the answers you are seeking.

[worthy horizon]

debuff reliant unit vs debuff immune unit

that's alt leon vs regirock

pretty frequently regirock walls a lot of them

[raven crane]

Leon lacks recovery and, if I remember, any defensive enhancement, yeah?

I guess burn technically..

[worthy horizon]

still gets 11/14 though, just moltres regirock cresselia missing

[rocky oasis]

i mean he might be able to do smth vs regi if he dodges every move but gl

cress might be possible in theory

in practice? theres nothing stopping you from torturing yourself trying

[worthy horizon]

he actually has status immunity on grid

[rocky oasis]

huh interesting

[worthy horizon]

you'd have to try cresselia to know for sure bc there isn't anything too obvious stopping him in theory that i can think of

[rocky oasis]

sanity

the only thing stopping him is your sanity

gl

[toxic kernel]

The thing stopping me is actually lack of tech candies

If I have him at higher level to let me afford max regen and status immunity I shall give a try

[raven crane]

That is indeed quite the road block.

[dawn plume]

the thing stopping me is not having him

[raven crane]

Another quite notable barrier.

[rocky oasis]

i have him at 1/5

working well enough that i dont really wanna put any candy in him

[dawn plume]

alt leon might be able to solo cresselia but regirock is not happening

regirock can't get debuffed outside of defense one turn at a time

[rocky oasis]

theres evasion

and dodging everything

[dawn plume]

i dont think he has evasion?

unless i forgot something

[rocky oasis]

huh

am i mistaking him for another unit

he doesnt

[dawn plume]

he dodges through accuracy debuffs on his other solos

but yeah cant debuff regirocks accuracy

[rocky oasis]

ok fair

[errant moon]

I don't have her lol

[dawn plume]

lol wtf? https://youtu.be/CdmKG62dhQQ?si=OgJ-tkj5AZY8Hgdj

[chrome halo]

her fans were cheering for her

[dawn plume]

cheered to dodge stone edge and hammer arm with regirock at +1 acc and morpeko at +2 evasion

some nice cheering

regirock gotta have the most 🚫 solos

[river cliff]

Just kind of a 🚫 arena in general

[stuck mantle]

Miss luck insane lol. Marnie best gurl;)

[pliant glen]

Been a while huh https://youtu.be/gtA93Khco8M

Same gear every solo btw

[inner turret]

that thumbnail lmao

[lost juniper]

I do wonder if there's any way she can do Registeel or Regirock. Regirock might be too hard to get past Bar 1 quickly

[bitter gate]

What is Lillie's current kill count again

[tender crater]

10?

[dawn plume]

yes 10

these are all just lowered from 5/5

though most people will have her 5/5 anyways

ffs i forgot to do the daily exchange before work what is the item today

[heavy sinew]

Support candy coin

[lost juniper]

If I do this run 1/5 20/20 it'd count as a lower invesment or not?

Since I think the cake is more expansive than 20 power ups

[shy notch]

Stat-wise, I think 20 5* PUs gives you more than EX Role. The EX Role doesn’t activate without 6* EX right?

[lost juniper]

No

But power ups are cheaper to get

It's possible with 10/20 too

[pliant glen]

We generally advise against R without EX solos, we only have a few and really should be seated alongside their 20/20 versions if they exist.

[lost juniper]

insta queues my damned enemy

You need so many to get this solo

[sturdy steeple]

Id say yes because like, 1 1/20 R is uglyyy and not realistic